You guys already have stated. You already stated that she knew you were doing it because she told you to stop doing it. Hi. Hi. Can I get you to hang up the phone for a second? And can I get you to have a seat? Went into my savings account. Mhm. Went into my checking account. And he went into the bank. my credit But when hackers hack into things, they just don't put their money into your account. People who take advantage of innocent citizens think they're above the law. But watch what happens when this group of scammers realize they've been caught. On a visit to Bank of America, senior citizen Donna Welch realized there was over $5,000 missing from several of her bank accounts. When the police arrived, they learned she might know who did it. on? I have this kid that comes to my house all the time. He does things like that. And I do not belong to Zelle. So you don't have a Zelle account? No. Okay. He does. Mhm. How did the funds leave your account? Can you just kind of walk me through that? He never gave him your banking information? He knows a lot about me. Is that his name, Spencer? Spencer Trinkle? Yes. How much money did you lose? Uh so far it's coming out $5,000. Where do you know where Spencer lives? No. But how do you know him? He used to be my cable guy. You don't know anything about him? Well, I've known him three, four years now. And you gave him your bank card information? Many older people are not tech-savvy, so they rely on other people to help them set up account information, and sometimes this involves sensitive personal information, leaving them vulnerable to scammers. As the woman tells the officer about this, our suspected scammer calls her cell phone. Answer. Answer. Hey. Hey, Spencer. Hello? Hey, it's a deputy Arson from Flagler County Sheriff's Office. How are you? Hello? Is Donna there? Yeah, this is Deputy Arson. I'm talking to you right now. You keep breaking up. Hello? I'm looking at my thing. I think I know exactly what happened. So like now I got to fix this for her. Okay. Where are you at? Let's fix it. I'm in the market. Okay. Do you want to come out to Bank of America down here in Palm Coast? Sure. I was Can I talk to Donna real quick? Sure. Hey. What happened? What do you mean what happened? I see I see it in there. Now that you're showing me like oh god. So you're right. It's all in my credit account. Now I'm going to pay you all that back. You went into my savings account. My credit card account. Hey, Spencer. Spencer. I'm doing a home equity loan, so you're you're going to get all that back. How do you accidentally take thousands of dollars out of someone's bank account? By the look on the banker's face, she's not buying this story either. The police find out the scammer actually works for DCF. That's the Department of Children and Families, which is a government organization. But now he finds himself on the other side of the law. Hey, what's going on, man? All right. Can I talk to you over here real quick? All right. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. What's good? So, can you tell me a little bit about uh Donna? Yeah, so I've known her for about four years now. Yeah. Um basically she has no family. So I kind of like with her she'll be sometimes she'll What is she like you'll find her she'll be passed out on the floor, hit her head, she's bleeding, she has all these cuts. So I always check up on her. I'll help her pick her up and pick her up off the floor. And I just feel bad cuz she has no family. He's painting himself out to be a savior and such a good guy. All lies. How heartless do you have to be to scam a defenseless old lady that has no family? So how would the money go from her account to yours though? That's why I'm confused on but I see it I see it in there cuz I didn't know if Let me try to see. I see it right on there. Yeah, it shows me in there. So I'm like what the heck that's all there. I'm like I don't know. Like if I wanted to do that I'd be doing it this whole time. It'd be great. I'd be rich. Like I've been helping her this whole time. I don't want to screw her over. Yeah. And how much funds were deposited from her to your Zelle? That's what I'm adding up right now. It's like $3,000. And is that money still in your bank account? It's not in there at all. It goes through it the medical bills and your credit. Whatever it is it's showing up on mine, so I'm going to have to pay her that. Okay. Which is fine cuz I don't have to do. Like I told her I'm going to recommend that she change the sign on her home network to $10. So he didn't notice he had thousands in extra cash, and now it's just magically gone because he had bills to pay? The police decide to read this punk his Miranda rights just in case they need to use his testimony in court later. All right. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in court. That's scary. I'm like that. Well, this is how we law works. We can't ask you questions and stuff without You got them on the same network. What do you mean by that? Like you know when you go into somebody's home there's a home network. You got to log into their Wi-Fi. Like a Wi-Fi network. Wi-Fi. So like if I'm at her house my phone connects to her Wi-Fi automatically. That's what gets me nervous though. Like if somebody can get in there. All right. So you're you're free to go right now. I'll be in touch with you. That's the most ridiculous story I've ever heard. That's like saying when I walk into Starbucks and I connect to their Wi-Fi, I might get thousands of dollars accidentally transferred from their bank account into mine. Huh? That's absurd. The man seems relieved about being let go, but then the officer tells him he'll have to make an official report, and the reaction from the scammer is very telling. I'm probably going to do a search warrant for all of your Zelle stuff to be honest with you. A search warrant? Yeah, we got to figure out who took your money. What if we just drop it and I'll just bite the bullet cuz I'll just pay her back. Bite the bullet, what do you mean? Like I'll just take the blame for it and just got to pay her back. Did you do it? No, but it's in my account, so obviously I mean just because it's in your account that doesn't make you a It doesn't make you a It doesn't mean you committed a crime. All right? I know, but it's in my account, so and it's the money's not there, so I'm going to have to pay her back. mean you Did you do Did you do it or not? No, but I'll pay her back for her. We'll do a thorough investigation. All right? And if that means we got to get a search warrant and search your guys' bank records and your all your transaction history, we got to do that. All right? I mean that's just the that's the bottom line. If you want to pursue charges or not? No. Okay. Then we probably won't have to We're not going to do a search warrant if you don't want to pursue charges. Okay. Here's your statement. Sign this right there. I feel like I should. I'm going to pay you back so you don't have to. All right. Well, yours is that Yeah. Everything's Yeah, he's a witness. Witness to what? That he said he'd pay me back. You know I'm I'm not attesting to anything. That's civil. If you if he pays you back and you don't want to press charges, that's on you. And what if if I if I don't sign this and you don't pay me back? Yeah, you know my whole family, man. Ma'am, if he doesn't pay you back right now and we're not, you know, whatever, then that's a civil matter. I would never I've all the times I've helped her out but I just have a screw Donna now. Why would you take responsibility for a crime you didn't commit? It's obvious the woman feels bad about pressing charges because she doesn't want to get the young man in trouble. But when detectives show up, that's when the sympathy stops. Bank of America has obviously provided Donna with some statements that clearly show a bunch of Zelle transactions that were made to you. And you've never seen this before, you're saying? The only one I saw was the other day she brought it to my attention, and then I was like I don't have the money, so I gave her $200 cash. I thought it was only $540. But then I'm like there's obviously in there now. I can tell right from the get-go that there's something weird Yeah. Nobody It's not happening here. Spencer, this isn't a hack. Yeah. This is I It really appears that you were able to get her information and you're sending yourself money through her account. Like I told her I was like I'll obviously I'll It's not about that right now. Okay? It's not about that. It's about that. Obviously you have some issues going on with your your family, man. Yeah. With with your brother or with your son having mental health issues. And maybe you're on the financial hardship. So you saw this opportunity. You going to her account, take money out of her account, put it in your account. I haven't done anything though. Have you ever done that? No. Can you go to your Zelle transactions? Yeah. This don't look good, I'm not saying. No, I know. The suspect is now taking a more timid stance. His face is flushed. This lets me know that he's feeling the pressure from these two intimidating detectives. He tells the detectives that he's currently fundraising for his child's surgery and uses this as a defense for why he wouldn't take the woman's money. But all this does is let the officers know that this scammer has a motive. I saw it yesterday. And I paid her in front of the bank. All those transactions happened before yesterday. That's the only one that we saw in her bank account, the Zelle transaction. Yeah, but you you got money influx into your account on multiple previous dates. Yeah, but that's the one she showed me. Right, but you there's multiple, not just one. Yeah, I know. There's multiple. But you if you saw it yesterday you would have had to see all the other ones. Let me ask you this. When we subpoena these records, nothing's ever going to come back to you where your IP addresses are used to transfer her money into your account. That's what I'm saying. It could be cuz I'm on her network. That's why I'm like I don't know. Your IP addresses are are Right. That's the device. Yeah, I'm not saying how they got it. Yeah, that's the So I'll pay like I said I'll pay her back that money. It's not about paying back. We're We're talking about a criminal aspect. So with the money that you received from Donna's account, you've already paid bills with that. Yeah, medical bills. For your son. Did you use the credit card too? Nothing for that. What is Babes Incorporated? Who is that? What was the transaction for Babes Incorporated? It was $23. An amount of $100 or so. I don't know what that is. She doesn't know about it either. I'm going to take a guess here and say that Babes Incorporated is not a medical bill. This scammer said he knowingly spent the money, which is close enough to an admission of guilt. Donna apparently still says she doesn't want to press charges. But the question is, was this the only money he took? The next day Donna calls the police again. There is more things that I'm finding that he took. I had $176 in my bag, and when I went to the dollar store and I opened my wallet, I had a dollar in there. And then he took my Bed Bath & Beyond credit card and I went to Target yesterday. I got a credit card, but it was nothing. This scammer used the trust he built with this defenseless elderly woman to take money from her bank accounts, credit cards, and even from her purse. It can be really scary when someone from your inner circle betrays you in such a horrible way. So, what would you like to do, ma'am? I'm thinking of pressing pressing charges. Okay. I feel bad You shouldn't You shouldn't not at all feel bad. I I I feel really Someone took advantage of you. What's to feel bad about? There's no point in feeling bad for someone who only cares about the money in your bank. He already lost his job. I I wanted we asked him why he needed the money and he goes because of the problem. I go you could have asked me for some money. You didn't have to steal it. Taking advantage of such vulnerable people definitely shows your bad character. Thankfully, this innocent older woman was able to catch this scammer stealing before he took all of her money and ran. The scammer was charged with felony grand theft and felony identity theft of a person over 60 years old. He was ordered to pay over $10,000 back to the victim in restitution and is now barred from working with the elderly in the future. On the 9th of December, 2022, officers in Florida responded to a call about multiple suspects walking into traffic in order to solicit money from drivers. Officers approach a woman carrying a sign that says she's in need of money. Apparently, the money's needed for a funeral for a 20-year-old woman who was killed in a car accident. So, I understand what you're doing and I'm sorry that you're going through this. However, we cannot have you guys walking in the middle of the roadway. It's interfering with the flow of traffic. It risks you getting hurt or one of them getting hurt and someone else getting into a crash, okay? So, I understand. I don't know if you have any Did you have any permit? You have to also have a permit to solicit. Okay. You what? I don't have these papers. You don't have a permit? Okay. So, yeah, that's another thing that you have to do. You have to make sure that you're pulling the right permits, too, okay? If you're going to solicit money or need signatures on a petition, then in this locality, you have to ask the city's permission to do so. And you have to tell them where and what time you'll be there. But none of these permits ever allow someone to walk in the middle of the road as it's extremely unsafe and could cause a fatal accident. this happen? This morning. Where? France. Europe, France. Where? Europe, France. France. Was that your daughter? Your niece? Was she like vacationing over there? Was she living over there? Living. Oh. Do you have someone else over there on that side? Yeah, but I don't know where they went. I saw him, but I don't know where he went. Were you guys over here previously on the other side of the parkway? No? Just today. Just today. Just today? Just today? Yesterday. Okay. So, is this your mom? Okay. Either these people are really going through a terrible time or scamming is their family business. Also, listen to the officer's tone when she finds out the person they're raising money for does not live in America. I guess it's not unheard of, but this woman wants hardworking Americans to pay for a girl's funeral in a different country. I don't know. It does seem to raise a red flag. Do you guys have any ID with you? No. 400. No? What's your first name? Dimitra. What is it? Dimitra. Spell it for me. What about your birthday? What? You don't remember it? The officer needs to know the woman's name and date of birth in order to look her up in the system. It's possible these people have been in trouble for soliciting before or they might have other past crimes that have active warrants on. And lo and behold, the cop did find something. When did your You said your niece? What's her name? Maria. Maria? Okay. And when did she pass? Three days ago. Three days ago? Okay. So, in September, did you have another niece named Maria that passed? Huh? Yes, I am. You and your two sons were on the other side doing the same thing. Collecting money for a funeral. Me? Yes. Your name and your date of birth that you gave me Yeah. This is a coincidence. No. No, sir. No. So, what funeral were you trying to save money or collect money for in September? No, I You're lying to me. No. I don't like being lied to. It's one thing to try a different scam after being caught once, but trying the same scam in the same area and not even changing out the sign, that's just plain stupid. And now that the officer knows that their funeral story's fake, she's having none of it. like this. I swear. I don't like I don't like it. She We have videos. Your face is on the video we did. you from last time I talked to you and your two sons. In that video we did. Here. Here. On the other side. Yes. No, I swear it's You swear? Yeah. You're on You're going to swear to God? Really? one 12. That's a shame. You should be ashamed of yourself. Is there You should be ashamed of yourself trying to do this in front of your two kids. The officer's right. What kind of an example is this woman setting for her children? She's also putting her kids' life at risk by making them walk in the traffic. And also, she's detouring their futures by making them participate in illegal scams. Stop lying. You're lying to yourself. You're lying to me and you're lying in front of your kids. I don't like This is the kind of mom you want to be for your kids? Lying? Lying to people for money? Really? I'm ready. Let's start over. Why are you collecting money? What do you need help with? I don't My niece died accident. Get out of here. Get out of Palm Cross. And don't let me see you doing this again. You know I mean see you doing this to your kids. That goes for whoever's down the block still, too. The other people down the block. Is anybody else with you? It's my Let me Let me put it this way. Next time I see you out here with your two kids, I'm calling DCF. DCF stands for Department of Children and Families and they're a government organization responsible for children's safety. If DCF is called in a case like this, sometimes the children will be taken away from the parent and placed in a foster facility until a court can figure out what's going on in the home and if it poses a threat to the child's life. What city? Jacksonville. Why don't you do this up there? Why do you come here? I go from Jacksonville here from 10:00 a.m. Why are you lying? I don't lie. I swear. It's my niece. I don't lie. She's 19 years from April May 20. It's my niece. I don't lie. I swear. There's nothing more insulting than someone thinking they can manipulate you. Geez, come on. The crying face, the sob story about her niece, this just shows the officer that this woman is willing to try anything to get away with her crimes. It also shows the officer that this scammer does not respect the law. I promise. I go I don't go. I go home with my children and I don't go. That's not up to you. That's up to us to decide at this point. Cuz you're You and your two kids are reoccurring issue. And I'm not going to sit here and blame them because they're just doing what their mother asked them to do. They're lead They're following your example that you're leading for them. So, this falls on you as the mother and as an adult. We get to decide what happens from here. This is the third time second time that I called third time that you've been talked to that I know of for a fact. I'm just going to assume the woman went silent because she realizes she has nothing to say to that. Her lies are catching back up to her and there's no way for her to cry her way out of this one. The police decide to step up their interrogation to the next level. Let's see your right hand. You understand you can go to jail for provi- providing law enforcement a false name. Right? This is going to tell me exactly who you are. Well, no. It's going to confirm who you are cuz we already figured out what your real name is. Do you understand? No. With her fingerprints, the police can now learn her real identity and any history of lying to law enforcement she may have. You can also see that when faced with the real consequences of her actions, this woman's attitude changes from a quiet, sweet, crying mother to a sassy carrot. If you lie, you're going to jail. Understand? Okay. So, we can start over. You can actually tell us who what your real name is because we already found where you were up in Jacksonville. So you want to start over or do you want to continue to lie? Okay, I am really sorry. Why? Why lie? Are you in trouble up there? When? Jacksonville. So why lie now down here? I mean Yeah. You have to have a reason to lie like I have a lot. You have a lot what? These a lot of reasons? Why? I have a fear of the police but I don't know why. Having a fear of the police is not an excuse to lie to police officers. Honestly, I think what she's really afraid of is getting caught. But instead of worrying about her future and her children's future I fear of the police. Smoke? Yeah. I have one cigarette. Please. Okay. I tell you the truth. Why should I allow you to smoke when you've been lying to us the whole time? I have to. I eat something not good. I I smoke. I want a one cigarette. That's all. That's why. If As long as you continue to be honest from here on out. I tell you the truth. I have only one. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. This woman made her 15 and 7-year-old son stand out in the sun asking strangers for change. I wouldn't be surprised if the money they collect goes towards her smoking habit as well. After swearing to the officers that she's always going to tell the truth from here on out, this scammer slips back into old habits. Who was the other one that was across the street? Huh? You don't know? You are you going to lie to me again? It's my cousin but Who? He already went home? What about down there? Who's the girl that's down there? Who? No. I'm going to get your children. You guys can come. I'm going to take them. This woman doesn't seem to have any sense of guilt about what she's done. Her attitude now is one of indifference. Wait a second. What happened to the woman that was so sad about her niece? The officers have had about enough of this woman's routine and now they need to check to see what else she might be hiding. What's in the purse? Can you take the purse off? Can you take it off? Put it Put the whole thing up. Yeah. Put it up here. Just put the whole purse up here. So I am taking you to jail for child neglect. Oh. Okay, palms again. Like this. Fingers up. Like this. I'm taking you to jail for child neglect for getting lost traffic and for traffic I got money. I got it. And I said for providing law enforcement a false name and all that. When you drag your innocent kids into your scam, harsh punishment is deserved. But this woman doesn't seem that phased about what's going on. Now the officers want to know the identity of the woman on the poster. Who is she really? Right now you're just you're abusing, you know, the nice citizens of our county. And you're especially saying that a 20-year-old died in a car crash. Like who is that who is that girl in the picture? The picture is my cousin but Who is it? Oh, that's your cousin? Does she know you're using her picture? Yeah, she was on the other side of the Is that the same cousin that was just over there? There was one over there and there's one down there. Yeah. I don't know. I swear I don't know. Who? It's a lie. So how'd you get here? Cuz you didn't get a bus here. With my cousin but who? Where is your cousin staying? Oakland. This entitled and greedy scammer has lied about every single thing the officers have asked her about. If she'd just been honest up front, the officers might have just given her a citation. But now she's going to be separated from her children. You might be curious as to how much money scammers like this actually make. We'll find out as the cops do a cash inventory. I have to search you before I put you in my car. I might think I think I think I What about that one cigarette? No, I tell them I got to send you go out home. Send you go out home. Like this. Face that way. Yeah. That's not how this works. No, but my No, that's not how this works. You do not pull away from me. Stop. What? What? You're turning and we're telling you to face this way. Okay, you need to stop and listen. We'll talk to them when we're done. Do not do that again. Do you understand me? I need you to spread your feet, please. 10 20 25 26 27 28 29 30 1 2 3 I have 36. $36. Oh. There's a lot more too. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 so $56. This is the same bag she was wearing in Jacksonville. Goodbye. It's for her alligator tears. The officer now has to do more investigating as to where the money came from. If the woman denies the money is from her scams, then they may not be able to use it in court as solid evidence. Will the woman finally be honest with the police? The money in your purse, where is that from? From this. From this? Okay. What about your sons? Do you know how much they made? Did they have any money? 5 10 15 16 17 18 19 20 70 20 plus no change. 20 40 45 50 1 5 6 7 In total, this scamming family collected $136.22 in 90 minutes. The scammer mom was charged with child neglect, scheme to defraud, obstruction of public streets, and providing a false name to a law enforcement officer. Thankfully, she was caught in the act and she can no longer prey on the generous individuals of the county. In January 2022 in Miami, Florida, police officers were approached by an individual that asked if they needed help. The police became suspicious of this man because of his outfit which resembled a police officer. He was wearing a fully stocked utility belt with a laser, handcuffs, a radio, ASP baton, a badge, and a firearm. The man claimed that he was a security guard but could not provide any documentation as proof. So you see when you guys turned on the red and blues, so those are basically the options that I have. For all the lights for you so That yeah, that I I pretty much that's my car and I pretty much forgot that I had it like that cuz it literally has different setups. Like I've done that on a private property and it has like different options. The colors, this is an Insta I did. And I've also done police vehicles as well. So you know, it's literally something that I have for like for example, if I go work on a car like I've done for DV units out of county out of headquarters, I can sit there and say, "Well, if you want extra lights, this is what I can offer you." And then the same lights that I use for security, I can demo it to you. And you know, maybe you can profit from it or me as a business, you know, future, you know, big business owner or whatever, you know, can probably profit from it, too. That's that's all I wanted to say cuz I know what it seems like but I can promise you it's not that cuz I'm done with that. Seems like he's been in trouble for something similar in the past. If you take a closer look at the man's sweatshirt, you'll see a police solidarity flag and the car behind him looks exactly like an unmarked cop car. Impersonating a law enforcement officer is a major crime in the state of Florida. It's considered a third-degree felony with up to 5 years in jail, 5 years probation, and over $5,000 in fines. Anything that would have seemed like another I would have said security or anything, I would have been like, "Okay, yeah." Oh, yeah, you have the different options. Okay. And that's why I want to wrap it. I want to wrap it for that same reason. Cuz I know it'll be less of a headache. Cuz it still has the emergency lighting on the side. I mean I I I haven't gotten a chance to that yet, to be honest. I bought the car with it. I haven't gotten a chance to it. The rear partition, I got it cuz it had access to the trunk as well to divide the back seat from the trunk. I was able to get that one out. But that one I I didn't get to. The future anything and everything to make the car like any of the police cars on the street. It seems like he's continuously trying to reassure the police officer that he's not trying to look like a fellow police officer. But in my opinion, the fact that he approached the cops and wanted to help them shows that he was really pretending to be a cop. But pretty soon, his past behavior gets exposed when the police decide to officially place him in handcuffs. Okay. Um so you didn't tell them the full truth, did you? No. That you've been arrested before for impersonating police officers? Okay. I was I was arrested when I was 16 17 for impersonating Did you tell her you had 13 felonies? Did you tell her you had 13 felonies? I did state that I had multiple felonies with drivers. The reason why it's important for police to know that this man has multiple felonies is because you're not allowed to be in possession of a firearm if you have a felony record. While the officers may not be able to categorically prove he was impersonating a police officer just yet, they can arrest him immediately for the firearm charge. I got my G license Well, I applied for my G license. You can't get a G license if you have 13 felonies. Well, when we got here, you know, we were stopping here and So, I was told that if I cleared my stuff out, I'd be able you? Because that's not correct. Well, they had told me that it was non-violent, so I wouldn't have an issue being a security guard. All right, hang on. Let's Let's go in the car. All right, come on. Let's go in my car. We'll figure it out now. A G license is a special security guard license. Now that the man's under arrest, the cops have probable cause to search his vehicle. They're looking for more evidence that points to this man trying to impersonate a police officer. Uh 9 I have 425. I was a bus driver and I was a security guard today because they said that I was working there. Okay. And then this says communist Okay, where is that one at? I'll be able to find it in the backseat. In the backseat? Yes. Okay. And then Is there anything If I'm not mistaken, this same gentleman that you spoke to today he was working with me at the other event and he did a a a a son of a gun or something like that and I think there's a firearm in a case, though. In a case? In the car. Not it would be the other Why do I get the feeling that we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg of what this scammer has to hide? Supposedly, he's not impersonating a police officer, yet he has a police vest in his car. Unless it's Halloween, there's really no reason to have a vest that resembles any type of law enforcement uniform. Aside from that case with a gun and the the vest, is there anything else in that car? No, there is. There's nothing else? Shouldn't be nothing else. I promise you that. Probably a knife on the back of the seat. Okay, that's it? There's nothing else. I got the soft guns. Okay. Now, let me ask you this. As far as tonight, you were two of us? I worked from 10 from 9:00 a.m. yesterday. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Reds car restoration. They're off of 7th Avenue and 27th Avenue. Down by Northside. Uh-huh. So, they were hosting a Reds movie party today and I was working there since 9:00 a.m. I got off at 10:00 and then I came over here. And you were working What capacity over there? Security officer. As a as what? As a as a security officer. Security officer. Okay. And this Again, my understanding was that I thought that I could because they they told me something that told me that my record was non-violent, so I wouldn't have an "Someone told me" is a horrible justification for believing that any information is accurate. If you have that many felonies, shouldn't you check with law enforcement to see if it's okay? For someone that wants to be a police officer that badly, he sure has no idea about the law. I was just hoping that that's something I'd be able to do because I couldn't be what I wanted to be. For obvious reasons. Just so we're on the same page. What was it that you wanted A cop. I was an explorer when I was little and I wanted to be a cop. Where were you an explorer? In Miami Dade. Out of post 526 in Miami Lakes. Out of Miami Lakes? I was with Officer Lashes over there and then I I was with Randy Russell and Officer Gimsey out of Northside. And then after that, when my license started getting messed up it was downhill from there, so What was it that you were doing for speeding? No, it it was for stupid tickets. Just I was young. I got my learner's permit suspended. I didn't even ever get to get a license till maybe about a year or two ago. People who want to be in law enforcement have an immense amount of respect for the law, but this scammer obviously does not. And the police officers are not buying this teary-eyed and sniffly explanation. Today, you're working as an armed uh security guard here. Correct. And who hired you? American Protective Service Group. Okay. But they hired the company and then you're just No, they they hired the company and I work for the company. Okay. You mean if Reds if if you work here often? Well, I was working every weekend, but won't be able to do that now. So, but yes, I was working here every How long How long have you been working there? Maybe about the same amount of time, month and a half, two months. Okay. Sometimes maybe before that I would cover, but not armed. Okay. Cuz again, I I I I I never I never wanted to go back. I never did. After my last conviction, I said I'm going to do my time and, you know, fix myself. I I I would never lie to you, but I I don't enjoy it. I don't. Much less as a security guard. I I would never enjoy jail like that. "I would never lie to you" has to be the slogan of almost all serial scammers. Whoever hired him as an armed security guard either did not run a background check on him or knew he was a felon and hired him anyway. Both are big mistakes for any security company and they could be held liable if something bad happens because of their negligence. Can you buy the car like that? So, the car came with a partition. The car came with a spotlight, came with a push bar. The only stuff that I took off was lights that were on the push bar like yours that are red and blue. And I took those out and I added mines which have the green and whites and amber in the push bar. The speakers and some antennas were on it. Others I added it because it does give it a better look. That was the only reason why. And I I I won't even deny it, but I did add some, but it was just to give it a Yes, I did add about two of those, but it was to give it a better look. To make it look more like a cop. I guess you can say to make it look more professional. This scammer is admitting to a lot. Sometimes suspects think they can talk their way out of situations, but they never understand that once you're under arrest, it's too late. That being said, honesty and cooperation might get you lesser charges sometimes. How long have you had the car? Probably going on 2 years now. You said the car is under your dad's name? Correct. It's not under you? No, it's not. Do you have any car under you? No, I do not. Why then? Because I also within the havoc that I wreaked on my license, I also messed up my credit. So, I haven't been able to take out a car under my name. Your dad's on the front of The speakers are on there and the lights No. He has a rumbler in the front. As far as the the rumbler system in the front, That's the siren. Yeah, I have that for a horn. Okay. There's also sounds other sounds in there as well, which I've used in the past, but mainly what I use it during escorts is the horn and the rumbler from when I'm going through an intersection, so it could be safer for me. Did you install that? I told you yes. You installed it? Yes. It didn't come with the car? That's the consequence of illegal activity. It affects all other areas of your life. One bad move and you're unable to get a car or even rent a house. This scammer's had many years to stop doing what he's doing and turn his life around, but based on the evidence the police are collecting, it doesn't really seem like he's put his past scams behind him. I like to help you guys out like you know, when I got an officer approach me about lights or whatever, I I I I like it. I I enjoy it. But if I'm in any type of disrespect, guys, I'm sorry. No, you didn't. Um let me ask you one last question. Uh when when you saw us approaching, you were inside your car, right? Right. And then you stepped out? I was inside my car, but I was tired, so I was Just breathe, okay? This part cuz I had I honestly didn't think you guys would stop. Like I I I I I didn't want it. I didn't see it. Like I did it too late. I got my learner's license suspended and when I got my license a few years ago, I was happy. Is this man telling the truth or is he just putting on the waterworks to try and convince the officers he isn't who they think he is. Getting caught again for the same reason doesn't really show that you're trying to put your previous bad habits behind you, does it? Unfortunately, this repeat scammer was charged with impersonating a police officer and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. On July 6th, 2023, police were called to a pharmacy in West Palm Beach, Florida after a woman was called trying to fill a fraudulent prescription. The prescription was written suspiciously and when they contacted the doctor who supposedly wrote it, the doctor said he had not issued the script. Soon the suspect came face-to-face with the police at the pharmacy. Hi. Hi. Can I get you to hang up the phone for a second? Okay. Okay. And can I get you to have a seat? Yeah. Do you have ID on you? Do you have ID on you? Yes. Okay, I need you to hang up the phone and talk to me, okay? I need you to hang up the phone and talk to me, okay? What were you What were you doing here? Did you come here to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription or to drop off a prescription? Drop off a prescription. To drop off a prescription? Say that again. Drop off a prescription. And you don't know the name of the doctor? Yeah, right. Is that prescription for you? My husband. It's for your husband. You He got the prescription from where? From the doctor's office. Doctor's office. Do you know Do you remember what doctor's or anything? Okay. Not responding to the police and not putting your phone down is pretty entitled behavior and it does not help you gain any sympathy. The prescription this woman's trying to get is for methadone. This is a drug that's used to help people come off of heroin or other opioids. Just put your phone down cuz right now I'm doing I'm doing a criminal investigation and I need you to stop moving stop moving move along. My husband is going crazy at That's That's fine. Go ahead and put your phone over here. Since the prescription had the husband's name on it, the cops aren't sure if he's involved in the scam or not. So, the police called the husband to come down and speak to them to get his side of the story. Today, why did did we get get get called here? So, I Well, I think you guys are calling me because she tried to get a prescription. Okay. With uh she falsified the doctor's signature. I had no idea. So, you're not sure that she did I don't know. The only reason why I know anything like I I can't help you right now. I was calling because So, you had a prescription to I don't. drop off. I don't. She had it. She had it. on behalf of you. I don't know why she put my name on there. Okay. I don't know why she's She apparently has been writing me Okay. Um because the And the only reason why I know This is from the doctor, office manager, and the doctor's office. She called me and told me, "Hey, this is urgent with another lady. I wanted to let you know that I had an emergency getting prescriptions for um I guess it's strong medication, and it's under your name, and she's been there multiple times." And I was shocked. I didn't know anything about it. The husband claims to be innocent in all this. Do you believe his story? You may have also noticed in this video that the investigating officer has a speech impediment. His ability to push through it and not let the condition get in the way of his duties is very praiseworthy. I don't know. I'm trying to sort this all out. It's just a jumbled mess right now. She asked me if she had a problem with the situation. And she was fine. I told her that I It was something that I started noticing, but I didn't know it was like I didn't know any of this. And so, I told her that I She has fibromyalgia, so she takes medication for her her pain. Okay. And um she also has seizures. So, I Like I I knew she went to pharmacies, but I I didn't know that this was like this or it wasn't under my name or anything like that. Okay. So, you never got a prescription. I've never been to a pharmacy. I've been to the doctor's office. It's possible that you might not notice your spouse's progression into addiction, especially if they're doing their best to hide it from But I'm not sure I believe it. There's another person police need to interview to understand what happened here. And she tells the police new information about our female scammer. And it was for a person that was born in 1993. So, of course, he's not my patient. So, the pharmacist said that it was it was weird because it was a prescription with a weird handwriting. And it was a a prescription for methadone. It said Play methadone 10 mg taken three tablets in the morning, three tablets in the afternoon, and then it says 60, but it was like scratched 90. Okay. Uh so, I said, "No, I never prescribe methadone, never ever. And I don't have a patient with that name here in my office." Okay. So, you never prescribed So far, I haven't in my entire career. I I'm able to, but And you were able to verify that because somebody uh s- s- sent a uh a uh Oh, no, what up? In Florida, it's a second-degree misdemeanor to falsely make, forge, or alter any prescription for medication. If the medication's classified as a controlled substance, the punishment could be even greater. What would be the reason I'm going to prove that she possibly stole a notepad. She stole money from my office. I don't have proof. Okay. But we were three people working the office. My front desk, and my MA, she was my MA, my other MA, but So, uh the money that we have, like in the you know, the cash that we have disappeared. And then, but days later, I told them not to stay in the clinic after hours alone. Okay. And she stayed. Okay. That week, the week that money the money disappeared. And then, so I said So, I told So, we were three people, and so I said, "Okay, if the money disappear, I'm responsible for the money. We're going to have to pay it. We all three have to pay the money." So, I gave part of the money, my other MA gave her money, and she did not give the money, and the next day, she didn't appear to work. She said she was in the hospital with meningitis. And then, and then she never came back to work. She did not work at all. Okay. Committing one crime usually leads to committing other crimes. It's a domino effect the police are very familiar with. The police get further evidence showing that the female scammer has filed numerous other fraudulent scripts in the past. They escort the female scammer to the front of the store, but she has no idea what she's about to walk into. Go 23. Hold on. Hold on. Just one second. Charlie 3713, we're ready. She's going to come out over by the officers, and just let me know if it's her or not. Okay. I'll pass Positive? Okay. It's common when the police need to ID a person, they do it secretly so the witness feels safer. It's unfortunate this woman has let her addiction take her down this path, but police have no choice but to arrest her. I think keep that in your pocket. All right. But you're I'd like you to take your your bracelet off. If that's in hand. Anything in your pockets? Um as far as your seizures, will you have to take one at night? You haven't taken it yet? No. Okay. Uh we'll let we'll let the nurse know that you have um uh seizures at home, okay? Can you hands like you're praying? Can you be the most comfortable in the back? The prescription scammer racked up multiple charges, including seven counts of fraud in obtaining medical prescription drugs, four counts of scheming to defraud, and another seven counts of attempting to obtain controlled substances by fraud. She was ordered to complete 12 months probation and write an apology letter to her boss. In Punta Gorda, Florida, police officers are called to the scene of a possible theft in progress. They talked to the store's asset protection specialist who'd been watching a suspicious male and female for 40 minutes. The police then confront the suspects. Do you uh do you have anything in your pockets that don't belong to you that don't belong to you? Everything I have is in my pocket. Everything is yours? Set off the alarm walking out. Yeah. Yeah. So, you don't have anything in your pockets that belong to Yeah. Yeah. I'll do that. All right. I'm only going to ask you to stop. She's gone with the buggy, and I Hold on. One second, sir. Go ahead and stand up for me. Stand up. Put those down there. Yeah. No, sir. I was just trying I'm going to pat you down. I'm going to pat you down for weapons. Turn around. Grab the wall. Does that belong to that lady or to you? Is that theirs? Oh, no. We had that at home. I don't see why she would take Yeah. I put it on my face at night. So, you have no idea No. No. Cuz I wasn't driving. Caught with a stolen item in his pocket? Not a great start for him. Notice the sluggish way the male suspect is walking and his slowed speech. These might be signs that there've been drugs or alcohol consumed, which is important for the police officers to know. Do you understand each of these rights I've explained to you? Do you understand the rights I've just explained to you? Yes, I understand I have the right to remain All right. With these rights in mind, are you willing to talk to us now? All right, sir. I'm sorry. With these rights I've just explained to you, are you still willing to talk to us now? Are you still willing to talk to us now? Um there's really not much to say. I mean, Is it yes or no? Is it a yes or no question? Okay. Yes. Okay. Do you have a vehicle outside? Yes, sir. Kind of vehicle is The car is registered to your key subject. 162 vehicle. What kind of car is it? It's a orange truck. Is this your car? No, it's her truck. Hers? Okay. Patricia, what kind of car you got? Altima. I It's a 2020. You said Altima? 2020? 2021. Are the woman's emotions real, or is she trying to manipulate the officers into feeling sorry for The officers need to get more information about the suspects to conduct a proper theft investigation that's later usable in court. How do y'all know each other? We're dating. Dating? Have you Have you ever been charged with stealing before? No. I don't No record whatsoever. Not true at all. Yeah. I'm not a Can you silence that? I'm really I'm like a good person. Hey, I'm going I I swear on my my dog's life. You've been caught stealing from a Walmart. One time. And I wasn't stealing then, either. Um they Not like you. They jumped the gun. We didn't jump the gun. We didn't jump no gun. You You concealed it in your pocket. Plus, you got fraud witnesses seeing you doing price tag switching. So, your face is going to jail. What these two scammers were doing was putting low-cost stickers from other items on more expensive items in an effort to pay less for those items on checkout. And the male scammer doesn't seem to care. His bad attitude toward police is only going to make his life worse. Let this be a lesson in dating. If you date people that participate in criminal behavior, you'll be caught up in it. That's why it's an important decision to choose who you date and who your close friends are. Otherwise, you could end up with a criminal record. All scammers deny that they steal. And of course, they claim they'd never lie. And then we find out that the last time our male suspect shoplifted was with his ex. Sometimes male scammers use female companions as a cover. That way they don't look suspicious walking around stores by themselves. Like most people, this woman's probably afraid of jail. But she's also afraid of getting a criminal record. Having a criminal record damages your life. It can make it extremely hard to rent property, buy property, and obtain a job to support yourself. If you're that concerned about having a record, then you shouldn't have participated in illegal activity. The problem with letting someone go is that it might encourage them to continue to commit crimes thinking they can get away with it again. Wow, that's a lot of items. There's no way this woman didn't know what was going on. After being confronted with all the price tags, the male scammer tells the police what motivated him. His excuse is that he was bored and needed something to do that day. That's the worst excuse because it lets the police know that this man really does not care. Of course, prices are rising for everyone, but the law also still applies to everyone. She says she would never allow that, but she did allow it and admitted to allowing it. It's too late to lie now. Since the male scammer's gotten away with this crime so many other times, it's no wonder he doesn't think it's a big deal. Because the male scammer has previous convictions, this new charge will likely be a felony. In many states, if you have a habit of committing multiple misdemeanors, then your third strike may become a felony automatically. The man doesn't want to talk to the police anymore, but the female scammer wants to tell her side of the story. Whether or not this woman knowingly helped her boyfriend steal is a question only she can answer. But the good news is these two scammer lovebirds were caught, and we hope they both learn their lesson. On October 18th, 2022 in Chamblee, Georgia, a car dealership called police to report a suspicious couple who were trying to purchase a vehicle with what they believed was a fake ID. The arriving officer makes sure she has backup outside in case the alleged scammers run when she confronts them. Hello there. Yeah, how are you? I wanted to come and take this void. Called in because we had an issue. Miss Minema? That how you say it? I issue. Yeah. You got your ID on you? I don't. How you don't have your ID but you purchasing a vehicle? I don't have no ID on me. You got your ID on you, sir? Don't stand up on me. On me? Both of y'all. It's all right. All right, I'm going in your purse. I'm going in your purse. Okay. Yeah, I ain't got no ID. I get it. You got your ID on you, buddy? No, I got a picture though. Okay. You ain't got no type of ID on you? I don't. I'm putting both of y'all in cuffs. Okay. I had to get your arm behind your back, ma'am. I got to explain to you. These scammers messed with the wrong people. And this cop's not playing around. The suspects seem calm and cooperative, which makes me think they've done this before. Next, the officer needs to search the suspect's belongings. The issue is the ID that was presented the ID that was presented does not come back to you. Right? You knew that though. Did you not? Who? The dog. Let me go down for you, buddy. How you know her? I just met her. Huh? I just met her. You just met her and you gave her a ride up here? I met her. Makes sense. I mean, he doesn't know me. He just met me last night. Okay. We can go. If we going to go, we can go. If you going to go, you can go? Wherever we going to go, here. Okay. All right. Wherever we going to go, we can go. What's in your purse you bought? Looks like this scammer just wants to get it all over with and go to jail. But that's not how this works. The police have to investigate, interrogate, and properly document everything so they can legally use it in court later. The real question is, what else is in that big red purse? Terry Jones. Wait a [ __ ] minute. Shawna Winders. Shawna Collier. Michelle George. He is Sabrina. Wow. I'm taking all these things. All right, man. Appreciate it. Wow, that's a lot of ID cards and all with different names. And the attitude of this female scammer just shows the police that she doesn't care about what she's done and has zero respect for the law. What about the male suspect's story of being innocent? Will his story hold up under questioning? So, tell us about you meeting her last night. Man, I met her at a club. At a lounge. You got a side chick to get you a car for you? No, we went to the god damn I went to her house. Man, I met her at She she she she can't tell me anything about getting you a car. Nothing about you thought it was odd you going to go buy a car the next day after you meet her? I got money. So, I ain't think nothing. I thought I caught you female with some money. You blaming me for that? For what? That's damn She she called me out. I could have got damn she got me some money. She said she was she was there. Maybe don't try and purchase a vehicle with someone you just met the night before. Now that the police know that the Mercedes outside actually belongs to the female suspect, they search the vehicle and continue to find more evidence. Yeah, it was a backpack. Yeah. That's a loft. Room 710. Oh, here we go. Oh. What you got? They're staying in room 710. Sandra Kitchens. Oh, whoops. I think that's her name. Lloyd, that's a fake ID. That's fake too? Yeah. Oh, I love it. Oh, we have a new ID. It's the same picture. Lloyd, we should have realized. Look. Same picture. Yeah, George one came back with some white lady. Oh, that came back to some white lady? Yep. This one came back to a black male. Black male? This one black male. This uh lady uh Minema. Probably one of her victims. And what about miss uh Oh, she was Shawna Winders. Somebody else in the room. It comes back to the same black male. Same black male. The police find more fake IDs and social security cards. Both scammers now face charges of identity fraud, possession of forged ID documents, forgery of a financial transaction card, forgery in the first degree, and other offenses. From stealing from innocent old ladies to possessing over a dozen fake identities. We hope you enjoyed this video of scammers that realized they've been caught. Make sure to hit that subscribe button so you can stay up to date on all of our exciting videos. Thank you for watching.