that a lot of people that I, you know, came across lately have been getting these PPP loans. I buy clothes, hair, and so forth and so on. Then I said, "So after this, then what?" He said, "Then I'm going to go ahead and take you to the shop." I said, "Okay." And we were supposed to go shopping. >> On July 28th, 2023, officers responded to a local bank in reference to a couple attempting to cash a check. But what they didn't know is the account was closed. Also, the man in the van has been on the run for quite some time. Off the vehicle. Turn off the vehicle. >> Okay. One moment. >> Gary ID with your man. >> Keep your hands out of your pockets, please. >> Nothing but my mother. >> I got you. What's going on, guys? >> I don't know. >> What do you mean you don't know? >> I mean, she was doing the privacy. >> Yeah. For for who account? Which account? >> Who's that? >> That's my best friend. That's who I have a business with. That's my mom and dad ever account. >> The account's closed. >> What? What's account closed? Well, >> whatever account you're trying to get that money from is closed or deposit the money in is closed. >> My account should be closed. She said something. >> The bank's the one that called us. >> I don't know. I'm just >> has a business. I'm investing in the business and >> that should be closed. I know she had transact. >> Gotcha. All right. We'll figure it out, man. You got your license on you? >> Yes, sir. Joint check. >> I'm not trying to do anything. >> Yeah. No, I got you, man. I got you. Huh? You trying to cash a check, were you not? >> No. >> How do you know him? >> I gave him 5,000 cash check. >> Huh? >> Yeah, you call whoever. >> 053. >> That made sense to you to give him $5,000? >> This is my team. >> So, you said the account belongs to your best friend? >> Yes, sir. >> Is that a business associate, too? Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> I can probably verify that, too. You want to do that? >> Yeah, man. We'll get it we'll get it figured out, man. We just got a call from the bank saying that somebody's trying to cash a check or whatever y'all are doing from an account that's closed. And so that because because that is closed. >> Yeah. Because that because it's closed, they have to call us just to confirm that, hey, it's suspicious activity. We got to make sure nothing crazy is going on. Whichever account you're trying to work with is a is a closed account. to my her account >> from here. >> What account are you trying to are you trying to deposit or withdraw? >> She's trying to cash a check here. She said my account >> through what account >> my account. >> Well, they're saying that your account is closed. >> My account's not closed. >> That's just what we're being told. Okay. Do you have like a like an app or anything with your account on it? >> Like what the hell is going on? >> Yeah, I got you. >> What the heck? So, it says my cards and then when I scroll down the cards, four cards in the account. So, it's going to say stolen. stolen. Stolen. And then the last car was restricted, but it's not restricted yet. >> You got it cleared up. >> So that's clear. >> Were the other ones stolen or lost or something? >> No, they reported it stolen because my son, he's in New York City. >> Okay. >> I have a 14-year-old who was I >> gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. >> And so he called me and was like, "Hey, mom, I got a notification that I can't use my car." So, I waited and I straightened that out and never did. >> Got you. >> So, I worked and my boss just called me and she's going to call me back and I guess let somebody tell me what to say to you. >> Yeah, we just need some clarification >> here. So, I'm just waiting for her to call. >> My mom was she entertained or >> Yeah, just give us a few and uh we'll get this thing figured out. Okay. >> Yeah. So um the manager of the ATM is coming around. She's right on game. So several instances of them trying to negotiate fraudulent check. Um even another time they were impersonating somebody totally different. Um it's a closed account so we can't do but is coming around and she can explain everything better to you. >> What's the resident parking sticker for if you live in Winterville? >> What? What's the resident sticker parking for if you live in Winterville? >> I think I just saw some just for fun. I bought it by >> They just came on with the car. >> I just bought it. I don't know. >> Okay. So, you don't live in any Athens housing? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. How long have you had the car? >> 8 months. Okay. >> Good afternoon. >> I'm the manager of that department that called in um this. But basically, here's the deal. This is a an account um that we know has fraud on it. Okay. So, what happened was we have a customer that banks in Elbertton. Someone stole her entire wallet and started negotiating checks as if they were her. So, they would go to different locations before we realized what was going on. I think we had negotiated one or two. Okay. So about two weeks ago, they were in Coington doing exactly what they're doing right now, but just on a different person's name. So previously it was a T t uh whatever Tedra. Okay. So the check that we currently have right now that we pocketed, it's the same check, but it's a different check number. Same account number, same routing number from the same person. >> Your uh back passenger tire, by the way, is almost flat. The gentleman that's with her was there in Coington two weeks ago. He was able to get away from the police. So that's why we weren't able to catch him. So now they're here in Athens doing the same thing. This is our first time seeing Shante though. So >> So the check that's in there right now is to Shante. >> Correct. >> And Cington is there an ongoing case currently? >> So we did file a police report. So I'm quite sure y'all can see record of that. But I want to say it was approximately like 2 weeks ago. I don't have the exact date. I can get that information. whatever. >> So, we know for a fact they're purposely intentionally trying to negotiate checks that are drawn off this closed account. So, >> okay. So, let me ask you something. >> How many times, and be honest with me, have y'all like gotten into a habit of like cashing checks in the past few weeks? Cuz we have uh we're being told that this isn't the first time something like this has happened. this happened in Cington and that y'all are >> I don't know nothing >> and that y'all are trying to >> I don't know nothing >> well they're saying that you're involved as well like they have there's videos on every like at every bank y'all go to >> me this van >> that that's just what I'm being told I don't know if it's this van >> no bank with her don't >> I work and I work Saturday Wednesday Thursday and Friday I do my driving >> I mean there's a potential way we can clear this up today if it's cool with you for us to search the vehicle and your person for any debit or credit cards that don't belong to y'all, any checks that don't belong to y'all, anything that would be consistent with fraud. >> This is my car. >> Did you hear what I said, though? >> No. >> All right. So, a potential way that we could clear this up today, not saying indefinitely, but as far as today goes, if you give us consent, we would search the car and your person for any potential fraudulent activity. So, any credit or debit cards not in your name, any checks not in your name, anything like that. Would that be okay? >> I mean, that's fine. I'm not >> I'm confused on what's going on, but >> they're claiming that what y'all are doing is trying to cash a fraudulent check is what they're claiming. >> How is the check fraudulent though? >> I'm confused >> cuz he I mean that's tennis shoes. That's >> This is the first that I've ever been involved in this. They're saying that this has happened multiple times. I keep everything out my pocket. >> Yeah. I don't know nothing. I'm not pumped yet. I don't know nothing about pumpkin. I was just looking to >> Oh. Um, >> do you have a wallet? >> Huh? >> What was that giant thing that was in your pocket earlier? >> What do you >> The giant thing that was in your pocket earlier? >> That wasn't my wallet. >> This is my stuff. >> There was a large item that was in this pocket when I first got out with you. >> I can even show you. There's my account that I opened for my father. >> All right. Nothing else is on your person. >> All right, go ahead and step on out, my guy. >> I'm just going to pat you down real quick. Make sure you don't have any weapons or anything like that on you. >> All right, if you just want to step right over there. >> Yeah, I've never even been in Coverington or any Excuse my car. I just dropped my kids off in Alabama. >> What's this? >> Oh, no. That's not mine. It's not yours. Your >> jams behind your back. You're going to be detained for now. Okay. >> What? >> I know that that's what was in your pocket. >> It's not. >> Don't even start. All right. >> I mean, that wasn't in my pocket. You being rude. >> You good? >> That's That's >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I'm being detained for >> You are being detained. >> That's cool. >> We'll figure it out, man. >> Cuz you find me. But either way, I'm going >> See, look, you're already going down. You're going down a defensive path, man. cuz you trying to say some car isn't mine. That's not mine. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Gentlemen, y'all got in the car cuz this is the one that was trying to negotiate in Cington that got away. >> I believe that is. >> Yeah. So, he Yes, definitely. >> Can I go real quick? >> You sure can. >> Okay. Thank you. >> As you can see, this man has a history. I did some digging and the suspect was hospitalized after a 2021 police chase ended in a crash in Dalb County that killed a pregnant woman. It was alleged that he was driving a stolen vehicle out of Mississippi believed to be connected to a robbery and possibly involving an armed suspect. He was spotted speeding along I20, topping speeds of 100 mph. And as he exited the interstate, he then ran a red light, striking another vehicle. The 37year-old pregnant passenger was thrown from the car and was pronounced deceased on scene. The suspect's car burst into flames, resulting with him being sent to the hospital. It's a mystery on how he was released. and just roaming the streets because he had an active warrant after that crash. But with that being said, you won't like the outcome of this video. >> Say a word. >> Like I said, you're just detained at this point. You're not under arrest. Okay. >> Okay. >> Huh? >> That's the one they have on the camera. >> There's me on camera. >> Hello. >> Okay. All right. Let's go back here to car 166. >> Yeah. I'll get everything for you. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Have a seat for me. >> We'll figure it all out. >> Like I said, you are just detained. You don't have to say a word. I'm not asking you anything. And if I have questions, I'll read you a rights and we'll go from there. Okay. >> Okay. >> He told me there's a bunch of checks in here. So, probably need to yank her out, too. >> Okay. >> Come out this side. We're going to search the vehicle. >> What was online? >> Well, we found evidence that there's been bank fraud going on. So, go ahead and step out. >> I don't have nothing to do with that. But you're in the vehicle with the gentleman that did. So, yes, you do. >> But I just met him. >> Okay. Well, that's unfortunate. I would caution you on who you hang out with from this point forward. >> No, no, no, no. >> He's supposed to give me $5,000. >> They're supposed to give me $5,000 today. >> Okay. Well, I don't know if that's going to happen or not >> because he sells shoes. >> Yep. >> She told me that they had a business PPP loan or something like that. >> Yeah. >> They're looking for investors. This was two months ago. Okay. >> The bank should be able to confirm that because I put $9,000 into my account. >> Okay. >> And then about $11,000. Put 9,000 in one and then like three 3,000 in another. >> Mhm. >> And then um I gave them the $5,000. >> Where you getting Where are you getting the the nine and three? >> You got Okay. So, what it is is I got into an accident back in December. >> Okay. >> And so, I finally got my settlement. So she I spoke to her cuz she put on Facebook that they had a business. >> Yeah. >> So I said, "Okay, >> what would you what can I do to help generate a second income?" >> She said, "Well, you can invest in us. I have a home going." He said, "Okay." She said, "He got a legitimate business. It's a sneaker business." I said, "Okay." >> I wrote I gave her the $5,000. >> Yeah. >> After I given her the $5,000, she said, "Okay, and within two months, we going to break it down. you're going to get $5,000 and then we're going to give you, you know, the interest or whatever the case may be. And I said, "Okay, that was fine." >> So then today I'm off work today. >> Sure. >> I have a schedule Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. >> Keep talking. >> And so um after that she I called her, she said, "Hey, are you in Athens?" I said, "Yeah, I'm in Athens." She said, "Okay, Rico is in Athens. You can meet him. he's willing to give you your $5,000. She said, I said, "Okay." She said, "This is a legit business. We're writing you a check." I said, "Okay, you writing me a check." He gave me the check. I signed it. I said, "We can go to my bank." Now, if I was up to no good, why would I come to my bank? >> I'm saying, "Yeah." >> So, I said, "Okay, we going to go to the bank." He said, "Okay, you going to cash in 2400?" Then she tells you what's going on. I said, she said, "Y'all supposed to give you my $5,000." She said, he said, "Okay, I'm going to give you your 2400 or whatever the case may be, and then I'm going to cash at you the other 25." >> Okay. >> So, I said, "Okay, that's fine." >> What do you do for work? >> I'm a security officer. >> Security officer. Do you have any ID with you or anything like that? >> Well, my work uniform is here. Like, excuse my car. I just from Alabama dropping my pink off. >> Where do you work as a security officer? >> At Hitachi Distribution. >> Hitachi Distribution. Where is that at? >> Yeah. >> Interesting. Look at this. Gave me. All right. This is actually him. They printed off his own little ID. >> Yeah, that is interesting. >> So, you just met him today? >> Today? Okay. >> I can My husband's on the phone. >> Okay. >> Where'd you meet him at? >> I met him on >> Did you already explain it to him? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Then I don't >> Did I explain that to you? >> Not really. >> I met Okay. where I met him. >> Yeah, >> I met him over there at the Baby, what's that gas station that I was at? >> Do you know if she's been involved, too, or is it mainly him? >> No, the last time we caught them in company, she was not the one in the car, >> but know for a fact that he was in the car. >> Absolutely. Definitely. Yeah, he was able to get away the last time. >> This was in his pocket, which is a bunch of different people's credit and debit cards, and the same within his wallet. >> Oh my god. Can I take a picture of that? >> Uh, we'll take care of that. Perfect. Saw me at the restaurant. I was like, he said, "I'm listening to me." Okay. >> All right. As mentioned previously, because you're in handcuffs, I got to read you this before I ask you anything. Okay. All right. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say, >> I got you. >> Plus, >> you understand those rights? All right. Understanding those rights. >> I got some questions. Are you willing to talk to me? >> Yes. >> All right, man. Why did you give me a fake? Like where did you print this off yourself? >> Somebody else did. >> Interesting. Why'd you give that to me instead of your real ID? >> I believe. >> Yeah. You know you got a bunch of warrants, right? Okay. What's the deal with all these credit and debit cards with other people's names on it? All right. >> Half of them are the ones that the girls I used to talk to, but as far as um you know, other ones, they're just accounts that I had open >> and a bunch of different people's names. No, the girls who I was talking to at the time or the people who I was staying with and they let let me get my check sent to them. >> So, if we had contact with these people, would they be like, "Oh, yeah, he's got my cards. That's okay." Or would they be like, "No, he's not supposed to have any." >> I tell you that half of them don't even work. I just still have the cards. >> All right. Well, let me tell at a minimum, you're going to jail on your warrants. >> Okay. >> Anything further, I don't know. I can't tell you one way or the other cuz I'm not even going to >> probation one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you got the probation here in Clark and you got some in like two other counties. >> Morgan County. So you'll you'll bounce around for the time being. I'll get somebody here so that way they can go and take you to the jail. That way you're not stuck here. >> Do I have a new charge for you? >> We got to do some more digging and then we'll pass it off to our investigators. Cuz >> right now I'm going for probation >> at a minimum. Yeah. If anything else changes, you will be informed so you won't be like blindsided when you're trying to leave and they're like, "Oh no, you got all these other charges." >> Write my my girlfriend number down for me. >> Yeah, we'll take care of all that in a minute. All right. Oh, this is disgusting. How in the world does this thing work? How do I get this car to turn on? This key won't work. >> Just kind of stick it. Is the wheel locked? Turn the steering wheel. Turn the >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's in park. So, push it in and then turn it. >> Ah, there we go. >> Officers took them both in for questioning to determine if both of them were going to jail or just the male. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> Are you Chantel? >> Chantel. >> All right. I'm Detective Franco. I want to ask you some questions. I want to talk to you about what happened. try to clear all this up. And before I even do that, I'll be honest with you. I mean, it looks like a lot of that stuff is on the other cuz he had a bunch of stuff on in his possession that wasn't in your possession. You see what I'm saying? >> Okay. >> So, I want from your perspective, I want your side of this story and then I'm going to go talk to him, too. And but you're not free to leave right now. So, with that in mind, I have to read you your rights to make sure you understand these. Okay? So, you do have the right to remain silent. Do you understand each of these rights I've explained to you? >> Yes. >> Having these rights in mind, will you talk to me now or do you wish to talk to me now? >> Uh, yes. >> Okay, that's good enough. >> Am I being arrested? >> Well, you're not arrested yet, but obviously you were brought up here to the police department. You're not free to leave right now. >> Um, I haven't I don't really know what's going to end up happening cuz I got to figure out what happened first. >> Okay. >> You were trying to cash a check with your name, right? Yes. >> Tell me about this check. >> Okay. So, I basically purchased sneakers. >> Okay. >> Okay. I have a friend of mine named Ella who told me about this guy, this gentleman who has a sneaker business. Okay. We arranged to meet today. >> Yes. We got here. I met him at the racetrack. >> Mhm. So, he stated when I pulled up, I was at the gas pump. He stated that, you know, um he wanted to get him to my vehicle to go down to the bank. I said, "Okay, no problem. I just wanted my money back." >> Um he Yes. He owed me $5,000,000. He had a PPP loan or something like that where he opened his business. >> It was a sneaker business. I know Ella from selling. >> What's Ella's last name? Why did this man owe you $5,000? I didn't realize. >> Okay, because Okay, he has a PPV loan. He stated. Okay. And he allegedly has investors. Like I said, I love Jordans. So, I was getting them for a cheaper price. They were like I guess it was being sold for like 325 or something like that, but I was buying them for like 225 or 250. And so, he met up with me. He was supposed to give me my money back. >> So when he told me he was going to give me >> when did you give him money? >> Okay. So Ella, who I know him through, I gave her the $5,000. I have $9,000. Well, it was a total of $11,000 from a settlement. And I got that wanting I was looking for resistance income, a second income. I'm not a professional or anything of that nature, but I know that a lot of people that I, you know, came across lately have been getting these PPP loans and they've been using them for their small business loan. I buy clothes, hair, and so forth and so on. So, I actually have two individuals that I wanted to invest in. Another friend of mine who's a friend of >> So, you invested in you invested in >> So, I invested the $5,000, right? Did you even know his name or anything? >> I didn't even know him. >> She just said, "I have an investment for you >> because she's she has a business as well, but she sells here." >> I got you. So, you had you ever met him until today? >> I never met him. So, today, >> right, I met up with him at the >> Which racetrack? >> Race track. >> So, when the police showed up, I was confused cuz they said you you're depositing a check into account. >> So, the check he gave you today, how much was it for? >> It was 2,460 or something like Why wasn't it 5,000? >> He told me that he was going to send they have multiple accounts, so they was going to send the money to my cash app. >> Did you see whose names were on the check? >> No, I didn't. To be honest with you, I didn't even pay attention. >> Do you know his Do you know his name? >> He goes by the name of Rico. >> Rico. Okay. That's what that's all you know him by name. >> Ty. Go talk to him and then I'll come back and talk to you. >> Mr. Bailey, correct? I'm Detective Frank. They they called me in to come in and kind of look into this situation. I want to ask you what's going on with all this stuff and get your side of this. >> I mean, I'm going be complet Let me read you this then. All right. Do you have the right to have these rights in mind? You wish to talk to me now? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. This check y'all were trying to cash today. Where did that check come from? >> Just me and my friends business that we had with shoes. >> Okay. Y'all have a business with shoes? Yes, sir. >> Whose whose checks are those? >> That's Philip. He stays in California, you know. So, I >> How old is he? >> I think Phil is like 23 or 24. >> Do you know what city in California? >> No, sir. But I can call him get >> You got his phone number? >> My phone? >> Okay. So, he's 23 or 24 and that is from his business? >> Just a business me and him open. >> Okay. >> My mom and dad's address on the check. >> That's your parents address. Yeah, it's all that. How did she get the check? Why'd you give her the check? >> I mean, I'm going to be I don't know what she told you. I'm not going to lie to you, but I just recently got out. I already know yall know that cuz it shows my records, but >> we didn't I didn't look at all that yet, but >> I saw you had some warrants, but >> probation. >> Yeah. How did you meet up? How did Who is she to you? Um, I know her boyfriend, but basically I met her at the gas station today and a quick trip. And I'm not going to lie, I have a newborn baby that's on the way. So, I knew I could make some fast money from the chick like I did in Cton. They already know it's me on camera. >> What do you mean some fast money? >> Basically, if you write a bad check, it's going to give you the money. >> Oh, no. I know that. But so, you knew these checks were bad? >> I didn't know it was I mean, that's what her bank said. I didn't know they were bad now. >> Okay. But you said something about make some quick money. So, did you >> basically I sold some shoes a while ago and I sent Philip the money. So, I'm thinking that the check's still good. So, >> I got you. So, you when did you cash the one in Coington? >> Probably like a month ago. >> Oh, it was like a month ago. >> Then I tried to go back to Cington and do another transaction and for some reason they tried to say that the girl whose account that I was doing that it wasn't her, but it was her. >> How did you end up with her? >> I just met her at the gas station for some shoes. So, y'all were like meeting to do some business? >> Yeah, she was trying to invest basically. >> How did she end up with that check with her name on it? >> I asked her did she want to basically make some money from Phillips so I can basically access some of the money out the account. >> Did you owe her money? >> No, I don't owe her anything. I was going to pay her basically half of whatever I got from the chick. >> For doing what? >> Basically, for getting the money from Philip. >> Okay. So, what's up with this name? with this Chadwick name you got uh with your picture on it. >> My friend made me an idea. I told him the about that too. I told him the truth about that too. >> So because I Chadwick is a real person and he told me somebody's been stealing his identity. >> Yes, sir. >> Um and your picture is on a license with his name on it. Do you even know this man? >> No sir. >> He told me somebody's been opening accounts in his name. So is that maybe other people you work with? >> I mean my I don't work with nobody. My friend made that. I do. >> Well, what about those credit cards in Chadwick's name? Those Venmo cards? Are those yours? >> I mean, yes, sir. >> Okay. What about all that other stuff in all those other people's names? >> Those were either people I stayed with because I was home when I first got out of jail or either those were girls that I was talking to. >> Well, one dude, you got like a couple credit cards in his name. I looked him up. Uh, somebody last name is >> Oh, no. That old dude. That's my That's my girl. That's my girl's um dad. Rachel. That's her dad. He died. >> I know. Why? Why do you have credit cards in his name? >> I had all my cards because I just recently moved to Athens. >> Yeah, but what I'm saying is why do you have that stuff in that guy's name? >> You talking about why do I have his cards and stuff? I had all my cards and all the stuff put together so nobody else would get it from That's what I'm saying. >> And you say all those other people are people you know. >> Yes, sir. >> But your buddy made that fake ID? >> Yes, sir. He did. >> But this Phillip is a real person. >> Yes, sir. He is. >> And y'all were in business together? >> Yes, sir. He's Asian. I can show you a picture of him and everything. >> He's an Asian guy. >> Yes, sir. From North Carolina. >> And he's the one that originally opened those accounts. >> Yes, sir. He did. He'll verify that, too. >> So, >> I can show you the text messages in my phone if I had my phone right now. >> All right. Show me a phone number for this Phillip. So, but why would his checks be in your >> Because he was homeless. He just moved from North Carolina. >> Okay. >> Not going to lie to you about nothing. I can show you like where this dude sent me his picture of his ID and everything. Yeah, show me. I'd be interested to see that. >> I have to go to the text message. That's her text messages. So, she knew what was going on. I can show you the text message. >> Yeah, show me cuz she's saying you owed her $5,000. >> She's lying. And see what it's saying. Scared money don't make no money on Lexon Road. That's what I told her. We make >> What is she saying she's scared about? >> That it will mess up her account. That's This is me telling her that. I'm not lying about anything. >> Okay. You're telling her deposit these in there >> so we basically access the fund. That's what I was telling her. >> I ain't going to lie to you about nothing. All right. Well, show me this fell. There's his ID. >> That's him? >> Yeah, that's a real name. I ain't lying to you about nothing. >> That's the real guy. >> Yes, sir. >> And how do you know him? >> I know I'm at Georgia Tech 11 and basically at the gym and not lying to you about nothing. Like, >> let me see this real quick. Let me go call him. >> So, he is a real dude. So, how did you meet that guy? in Athens to a friend. >> In Athens, >> Atlanta at a club or something? >> Yeah. >> Where does he live now? >> He was stay in California. >> You said y'all were in business together. >> Yes, sir. >> He opened those checks >> for the business. >> That was his business. >> Yes, sir. >> Tell me that thing where where he said something about the social and his the picture of his ID cuz that is his ID. I just didn't see the context there. When you told her that she would get some money, all she had to do was cash that check and put it in her account. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. So, he's telling you his social, but why is he giving you that information? Did you ask? >> We for the online banking is the way it was working. He was making sure that the account was working. >> Gotcha. >> I'm not telling you no lie about anything. He asked me money for cash up. I've been sending money through cash. He's at Magic City, the strip club. His wells working. All right. >> What What does he mean by wells working? Basically, the account wasn't working at first when he first got it and then they got the card milked to my mama. >> I got you. So, cuz he's he's claiming that he does know you, but he's like, I didn't give him I don't know nothing about no account. >> Yes, he does. >> Why is he? I mean, obviously, >> I believe. >> So, he's in on this, too. >> No, I mean, I guess so. If you want to say that. I mean, we were selling shoes legit and I've been sending him money. >> He didn't say that. You said something earlier about making some quick money. Yeah, that's what I told her. She can make some quick money. I was basically going to get money out the account that Philip I don't have access to the online banking anymore. >> Well, why couldn't you? Why did you need her is what I'm saying. >> I don't have a bank account. >> So, that's why she would get some quick money is just by putting that in her account. >> Yes, sir. >> Did she know it was like kind of shady? >> She had to cuz I told her basically it was coming to my business from from from me and him. I didn't even know that the check account was closed. I promise you I didn't. Didn't you say you tried to cash one of these before? >> Yeah, they went through. >> One went through, but one didn't. >> Right. >> All right, I'll be back. >> All right, so I talked to him and he showed me some text messages and his phone from you and other people. >> Mhm. >> Is there anything else you need to tell me about what went down today? >> To be honest with you, I just don't want nothing to do with what he got going on. All right. Tell me what Tell me about it. >> All I know is ask me, you know, >> put a check in your account. >> I just I don't want nothing to do with this man. >> So, where did you meet him? Have you ever met him before? >> I don't know him. >> He just came up to you and said, "You want to put some money in your account?" >> He came up to me. He said, "Um, he remembered me from that, but I don't want to get her involved." >> So, you really do know him from the past. >> He know me. >> How does he know you? >> He came up to me. He said, "I remember you." And I said, "Where do you know me from?" He said, "The one I had the business with." >> Okay. Okay. He said, "Yeah." I said, I said, "You still selling?" He said, "Yeah, I'm still selling stuff." Whatever. He said, "I got right now I got a business, you know, I'm into sneakers or whatever." And so, okay. Then he said, "I can right now if you want to, you know, go out on a date, I can wait for you and take you on a shopping spree." So, I said, "Okay." He said, "You know," and he show me some papers showing that he had a pizza. So, I said, "Okay." And he wrote me a check. I said, "You sure this is legit?" He said, "Yeah, it's my sneaker pizza. is my sneaker business. But I remember him I love having the business, >> but I didn't think much of it. I said, "Okay." He went to the bank and I was like, "Then the police showed up." >> Well, he he told you that he needed to put this money into your account. Why did he tell you he couldn't put it in his account? >> He said he had multiple accounts or something like that. >> But why would he need to put the money in your account? All I know is he said, "I'm giving you this just to show you that I'm real, that I'm upfront with you. We going to go on the shopping next week. I want to with you." That was his words. >> So that's why he gave you the check, >> right? >> Did he tell you where it was come? Where did he tell you where it was? >> I asked him. He said, "This is from my company." >> Do you have the text messages from him in your phone? How long y'all been texting? Because I'm going to get a search warrant for his phone and I'm going to get all He kind of showed them to me already, but I didn't sit there and read them all. So, I know he was texting you about putting this money into your account. So, I know y'all >> text me and said, >> "When was he texting you?" >> Like 4 something >> today. >> Yeah. >> So, then So, y'all are already texting. Y'all didn't just meet up in person. He's texting you already. >> Well, we met at this, you know, the gas station, right? >> But he was already texting you before that. >> Then he text me. He said, "Meet me everything." >> Right. But he was already texting you before that about putting money in your account, >> right? He said, he said, "I'm we was on the phone." He said, "I'm going to take care of you. I'm going to go ahead and >> Do you have those text messages?" >> No, we was on the phone. He said, "Calm down and I'm going show you." >> Did you know what he was asking you to do was a little shady and risky? >> No, cuz he made it seem like he was serious. I said, "Are you serious?" He said, "Yes." He said, "Then I >> So, he told you he wanted to put the money into your account just to show you he was for real." >> That's what he said. Then I said, "So after this, then what?" He said, "Then I'mma go ahead and take you to the shop." I said, "Okay." Then we were supposed to go shopping. >> Wait, I got to clear something up. Do you know somebody named Ella? >> No. >> How do you know her? >> I met her at the gas station. She's lying to you. I'm telling you. >> What about those text messages? >> I just started texting her today. >> Before you met her or after? >> After I met her. I got her gas station. So, I'm not going to tell you about >> No. So you you got her number and that's why you're telling her you need to put this into your thing. >> She said at the gas station she wanted to do it. That's why she >> she wanted to do what? >> She wanted to make some money today. >> So you just approached her and said >> yeah I see I knew I knew her from seeing her with reality. Basically I know working from my ro. >> Okay. And you said you want to make some money. What did she have to do to make the money? >> Basically do it. >> Okay. >> I'm not lying to you but I just want to get all this over with behind me. I don't want to do anything. I want to go to reality, >> right? But but >> I don't need >> What would the risky part be for her? >> It could close her account >> if it didn't go through. >> So, she knew there was a chance it didn't go through, >> right? That's why she said scared money don't make no money. She said she know she know people from New York. She's from New York, >> right? But how did you know the check wouldn't go through? >> I didn't know it was going to go through. >> But you that it might not because it didn't before. >> Yeah. And that's why I have the >> You didn't offer to take her on a shopping spree? >> Yeah, I did. That's why I have the um the charge in New County. He just told me where it say fleeing. >> Oh, new. >> That's why that's why they caught me at Pinnacle. They talking about the check didn't go through. >> And you ran from him? >> I did cuz I didn't want to go to jail. I just >> I got you. I figured out what's going on here. So, she knew it may not go through and it may close her account. Yes, sir. >> But she said she's down. And you told her it may not go through cuz there was some issue with this account, >> right? >> I figured. Thank you, ma'am. >> Hey, so here's what's going to happen. you know, you changed your story a little bit. He told me kind of he showed me his text messages that he talked to you about. So, you knew it was a little shady. >> So, >> I didn't know it was shady. He told me that he was going to write me a check. I'm being honest, >> right? But his name is not on the checks. >> I didn't look. I don't know what he told. >> What I'm saying is you have some You can't just put a check into your account without looking at it. >> No, we was >> Well, no. Listen, listen. His name is not the one on the check. Mus he wrote >> No, I'm not talking about the name at the top of the check about whose check it is. His name is not >> from his business, >> right? But you got to know if you're putting stuff into your account whether it's good or not. So y'all are both going to get charged with the forgery. He's like, she knows what's going on. Now listen, >> don't listen, that doesn't mean >> I'm in a situation. I just told the officer I've been homeless. I'm in a situation. He told me that he was going to We went to the store. I'm not saying you're getting found guilty of it. But you're y'all are both going to get charged with the with the 434. He's getting charged with more stuff cuz he's got a pocket full of identity fraud. >> I don't know what he got. >> No, I I know. That's why you're not getting charged with that stuff. You're just getting charged with just the check. Obviously, you'll be able to get an attorney and fight it. But >> but you'll be out. >> How was I supposed to know that? He showed me that he had a business, >> right? But his name is not Phillip. The name on the check is Phillip. Uh >> he told me that he has a business, a sneaker business, and I'll show you why. >> But he he told you the check may your account may get closed because it may not go through. >> He did not. >> That's what he said. So >> no, he did not say that. >> But like they're Well, that's fine. But we're going to take you for for thirdderee forgery. Um you'll obviously be able to fight it. >> Check my application. Wow. >> You just be the ones with the nice cars and the flashy money and be the ones that I don't know how that made me desperation. >> The female suspect was booked for forgery third degree. The male suspect was booked for forgery thirdderee and identity theft fraud when using or possessing identifying information concerning a person. He was sentenced to 100 days in confinement on November 9th, 2023, but wasn't arrested for his charges of murder, fleeing, or attempting to elude a police officer, reckless driving, and driving while license suspended or revoked for the death of the pregnant 37year-old woman until August 4th, 2025. Updates to those charges are still pending.