In Green Bay, Wisconsin, Jacob Madash and his girlfriend [music] Shereice were just trying to make it to Walmart. A Brown County Sheriff's [music] deputy had other plans, following them after they stopped at McDonald's along the way. >> Because you guys keep bothering me if it's just basic traffic seat belt violation. Give me the violation. I'll take the violation. >> Cops are trained to know the law inside and out. So, what happens when they ignore it anyway? These officers weren't confused about the rules. They just gambled that no one would call them out on it. Turns out they gambled wrong. Get ready for some of the most infuriating power trips caught on camera. Let's get started. >> Honey, grab your phone. Hey. No. Hey, grab your phone. Hey, stop touching my white phone, homie. >> Hey. >> The paperwork would later blame a loud exhaust and a broken brake light. But the real reason will definitely surprise you because it'll only prove just how far some police officers are willing to go. top of the vehicle for the exhaust and then the top hit center uh brake light. >> The top center brake light. You got two brake lights. You got one on the left, you got one on the right, and there's one on the top, too. You had one. I mean, look at every car going by. They all got one. Is that a driver's license? >> Yeah. >> It's a stopping light by statute. But it's essentially, you know, when you put your foot on the brake, the light that comes on. >> Yeah. >> You have driver's license, too, boss. Nope. Right out of the gate, Deputy Spence pointed to the exhaust and a missing center brake light, acting like he had cracked a case worthy of a detective drama. He even admitted other cars on the road were missing that same third light. Yet somehow that detail didn't stop him from pulling this one over. If that's the actual standard, shouldn't half of Green Bay be getting the same treatment? >> What's your name? >> My name is Jacob Madash. >> Jacob Madash. You guys married? >> Yes. >> Why would I need a driver license? >> You don't need one. Just ask. >> Okay. >> Most people got one. That's just the easiest way to ask for an >> Oh, yeah. No, I have Nope. Don't have one. >> Uh, you got insurance on the car? >> Not yet. Nope. Not yet. We We're in the mix of getting one. >> Okay. >> This Friday. >> Oh, this is >> What's this Friday? Pay >> day. Payday. >> My payday. I got you. Have you been stopped recently? Shice. Sharice, is that exact? >> Have you been stopped recently? >> Okay. And then um as far as the exhaust, what's up with that? >> This is the way we had it. We've had this thing for almost a year now. >> Here's where things got interesting because the story behind the stop kept shifting. First it was the noise. Then somehow it became about the McDonald's visit. Jake and Shereice said they had only stopped because she was diabetic [music] and needed a bathroom fast. Simple, understandable, human. But Deputy Spence treated a diabetic woman needing to pee like it was a coded message because apparently biology is suspicious when you're already looking for a reason to search someone. >> Where are we going today? >> Walmart. >> Walmart. Okay. Where are you coming from? >> The place that you see the whole lot of up at the motel. >> Right. And why did we stop at McDonald's? >> We had to pee. Okay. So, we didn't do that at Walmart or at the hotel that we left. >> We ran out. We ran up. We ran out the house real quick. He said she had to pee. McDonald's was the closest one. She's diabetic. You're not supposed to pee in when you're diabetic. So, >> okay. >> Instead of driving 15 minutes to Walmart and pulled into McDonald's to pee. >> Just I got you. Anything in the vehicle that's illegal? Okay. Any weapons? >> Okay. Any any drugs? Anything like that? >> Weapons, drugs, seat belts. The questions kept stacking up while Jake and Shereice sat there answering every single one. What came out moments later mattered more than anything said inside that car. Deputy [music] Spence admitted he had spotted them earlier near St. Joseph and had been tailing them before the stop even started. So, which is it, officer? Was this really about a tail light or were you hunting for something the entire time? >> You guys stay in the vehicle for me. I'll be back with you in a minute. All right. >> All right. >> Thanks. >> Some suspicious stuff. It came out of um St. Joseph. I pulled out behind them a little bit behind them. They turned left, turned into McDonald's soon as they saw me. They hung out there. I did a left around the block and then they left. Uh they didn't get any McDonald's. They're saying they went in there to feed, but they just left. They just left. Paws aren't and they're going to Walmart. >> And there it was, the weed sticker on the bumper. The actual reason for all of this. Forget the exhaust. Forget the light. Deputy Spence saw a sticker and decided that was probable cause enough to pull two people out of their car. Except he said himself there was no probable cause, then ordered them out anyway. Somebody might want to remind him that a bumper sticker isn't a search warrant. >> Uh, she's also got like weed stickers on the bumper. And he's sweating like crazy. He's getting a little irritated now. >> See? >> So that's kind of what we got. >> So there >> nothing no problem will cause anything. So I'm going to pull her out. Probably both of them out cuz he's getting irritated. See if they'll give us consent. >> What do you want? >> Uh you deal with the driver right now cuz he's getting irritated. Pull her out. We'll do uh this dude's recording. Jake asked reasonably why he needed to step out for a seat belt ticket and never got a straight answer. This is the part every just complying you'll be fine crowd needs to sit with. Jake was polite and honest about everything and still it changed nothing. Deputy Spence [music] wasn't looking for cooperation. He was looking for an opening and no amount of good behavior was going to close that door once it was cracked. >> Hey buddy, you want to step out? >> Can I ask for what? >> Can I ask? >> So we just want to chat. So what? We can chat right here. >> You want to step out for it? >> Why? Why? Why am I Why Why do I need to step out? >> Cuz you pulled me You pulled me over for a tail light, >> right? >> And noise. Why do I need to step out and talk? >> Right. Cuz I I just want to chat with my man. >> No, no, no. We can chat right here. This is what I don't understand. Why do you need to chat with me? Am I in trouble? Did I do something wrong? >> I don't know yet, man. You weren't wearing your seat belt for one. >> Okay. Well, that's a ticket. >> Okay. >> So, why do we got to talk about me stepping out of my car? >> Okay. because we have every right to ask people to step out on every traffic. >> Deputy Spence claimed he just wanted to chat, which is one of those phrases that should set off alarm bells every time an officer says it. Nobody gets ordered out of a car for a friendly chat. Jake dropped his glasses, picked up his phone, and got a scolding for reaching. Then he got asked to identify himself once again after already giving his full name. Guess that's what happens when a deputy runs out of real questions to ask. >> It's a ticket, right? Just for a seat belt. It's a ticket, right? >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, then >> if we feel for whatever reason, man, you were just reaching around doing all kinds of stuff. You're wiggling around. >> I dropped my glasses and I picked them up. >> Okay. >> And then I dropped my phone. >> Okay. >> And I reached right here to pick it up because I was wondering. >> Don't be reaching, my man. >> Okay, cool. I was reaching then. I'm sorry. >> You want to step out for me >> once again? Why though? >> You want to at least identify yourself for me? >> What? >> You want to at least identify yourself? >> I did already. I said, "My name is Jacob Madach." my dog. >> Can you And then you said, "Am I married to her?" >> Yeah. What's your name of birth? >> Jake spelled out his name letter by letter, gave his birthday, his [music] middle name, everything short of a DNA sample, and Deputy Spence still wasn't satisfied. When Jake asked directly if he was suspected of something else, the answer was vague and a line about safety instead of anything resembling a real explanation. Funny how safety gets invoked the moment an officer can't point to an actual law being broken. >> What's your middle name? >> David. >> David. How do you spell Jacob? Regular way. Is that your legal name, boss? >> Yes, it is my legal name. >> Okay. How it's spelled? J A C O B. >> That is correct. >> All right. And why won't you step out with us today? >> Because I don't need to for a ticket. I don't need to. I mean, unless you think I did something else. Do you think I did something else? >> It's for our safety, my man. I don't know if you did anything else yet. >> You pulled me over for a tail light or a light >> and what else? And the noise muffler. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> I told you the seat belt, the insurance. >> Okay. Well, now the >> You guys were evading us at McDonald's? >> Yes, we stopped at McDonald's. So, if you could go if you go in. >> Deputy Spence finally listed the excuses out loud. the tail light, the noise, the seat belt, the insurance, and then accused them of evading him at McDonald's. Like they had pulled some elaborate dodge instead of just stopping to use a bathroom. Are we really supposed to believe two people planning to dump drugs would just casually walk into a McDonald's, use the restroom, and stroll back out? Please, officers went in there to dump something, right? >> No, she went in there, took a piss. >> Come on, man. You got weed stickers all over the bumper. You guys are hiding from me at McDonald's. >> So, do you really think we're drug trafficking? Do you think she >> walking? Dude, >> can I Can you call supervisor, please? Now, now you're disrespectful. Call your Please call your supervisor. >> [ __ ] ask for a supervisor. >> That's [ __ ] sad. >> Shice, you want to step out for us? >> Not much. >> Here's the deal, boss. She's in violation of >> When Jake asked to speak with a supervisor, Deputy Spence called it disrespectful, which says a lot about how this department views a citizen simply asking for oversight. Sharice was then [music] told she had to step out too, threatened with obstruction if she didn't. Since when did [music] asking for a supervisor become an insult instead of a right every taxpayer is entitled to use? I think we all know the answer to this question. >> What is she in violation of? >> All the traffic violations. And for our safety, we can require anybody to step out at any time or it's obstruction. Okay. >> Okay. Honey, go ahead. >> Hey, what's your badge number? Name and badge number >> for 27. >> Name and badge number, please. >> My name and badge number. >> Yes. 1405. >> Okay. You sir >> Mary Adam Sam Jacob David >> 603 of 83. 603 1983. >> Your name. >> I'm Deputy Smith and >> badge number 1425. >> Watch closely and you'll catch this rookie glancing at his partner before giving his own name and badge number like he needed permission to identify himself. Jay kept repeating his information patiently while getting talked over the entire time. Meanwhile, Deputy Smith stepped in with badge number 1425. [music] And with that, this stop became even worse. Madas >> Mary Adam David Ocean Sam Henry first name Jacob John Adam Charles Ocean boy D. David 603 of 83 of 83. >> It does matter because I didn't break. Okay, mine's just a ticket. Okay. Mine's a ticket. Why can't you just write me a ticket and send me on my way? >> You know what's You know what's not a ticket? >> What is >> is obstruction? >> I'm not obstructing you. >> Yeah. If you don't get out of the car, it's considered obstruction. >> Arrest day. It's destruction. >> Okay, then step out of the car. >> Am I under arrest? Then am I under arrest then? If I step out of this car, am I under >> step out and comply? >> Am I under arrest? If I step out of this car, >> here's the deal. If you're going to step out and comply, >> Jake asked the only question that mattered here. Why couldn't they just write the ticket and let him go? Instead, Deputy Spence leaned on obstruction, claiming legal authority to pull him out for any reason at all during a stop. Then he reached for the door handle himself, and Jake had to point out that wasn't even his to open. But it was still far from over. >> Is there anything we can say to get you to step out, my man? >> No. No, there's nothing you could say cuz I feel like I didn't do nothing wrong besides a ticket. >> All right, step out, boss. Were you really seriously going to open my door? >> Yes, sir. >> You cannot do that. >> Excuse me. >> You're going to need me to like Is that a threat? >> Is that a threat? >> Cuz I take that as a threat. >> He's under arrest, right? >> Yep. >> Okay, you're under arrest at this point. >> Don't reach. >> I'm I'm taking out my I'm taking off my seat belt. >> Boy reached for his gun. You see how quick he was ready to shoot him? Oo. >> I'm taking off my seat belt. >> Seat belt's already off. I'm sitting on my seat belt. >> Good. Okay. >> Jake was placed under arrest for obstructing his own traffic stop. A charge that [music] makes zero sense the moment you actually think about it. He never refused to identify himself. He never ran. He never fought. He just asked questions. If answering honestly and asking for clarification counts as obstruction now, then [music] every polite driver in Wisconsin is one bad mood away from getting cuffed. >> I'm watching, that's for sure. See? See what I was reaching for? I'm trying to get it off. >> So now I'm under arrest. >> Your back. >> Can you have my wife arrest? >> I'm not resisting. >> Can you have my wife phone, please? >> Now, can I ask what? I'm under arrest. >> Obstruction. >> Okay. >> Obstruction of what? >> My traffic stop. >> I wasn't instructing your traffic sign. >> They just made up a charge. >> Oh, for no reason. >> Come on, let's walk to the back of the car. Teresa's phone was grabbed by an officer who was quickly told it wasn't evidence and needed to be handed back. She kept her composure through all of it, calmly explaining she only stopped because of a bladder issue, nothing more. Meanwhile, Jake sat in coughs over a ticket. Makes you wonder how many other stops start this small and end up far off track. >> Honey, grab your phone. Hey, no. Hey, grab your phone. Hey, stop touching my white sound, homie. >> Hey, relax. Oh, you're tensing up, bro. You're tensing up screaming. >> Honey, take your phone off. >> It's not evidence. >> Thought it was your phone, boss. >> Nope. It's hers. >> Shut that door for me. >> See, you can't take her phone. >> Sharice agreed to a pat down and let them check her pockets, cooperating fully while the officers thanked her for it. But cooperation [music] clearly wasn't buying her any credibility because deep down they were still convinced this was still some sort of drug operation hiding behind a McDonald's bathroom trip. Being polite doesn't erase suspicion once an officer already has made his mind up about you. >> It's my key. >> I ain't going nowhere, man. Anybody over there, bro? >> All right, Charice. So, what's going on today? >> Nothing. >> You're trying to go to Walmart. >> Okay. Why do we stop at McDonald's? Like I was explaining to the officer, I have a leaky bladder. Sometimes I don't know I have to go until it's like I really have to go, >> right? >> So I hurried up and ran into McDonald's. >> Okay. Is it cool if we check the car out? >> Um do whatever you're >> Okay, perfect. >> She been patted down. What? >> What' you say? Said I'll hang out with her. All right. >> She been patted down. >> Down. Okay. Can >> we check for weapons? Is it cool if we check your pockets? Thank you. I'm not putting handcuffs on. Just holding your hand. Okay. Anything on you? All right. I appreciate you cooperating with us. Okay. >> After tearing through the car, the deputies pulled out a vape battery, what turned out to be THC cartridges. This was the moment the entire stopped had apparently been building toward. Not a tail light, not a seat belt, but a couple of vape pods buried in a car. All that manpower and all that intimidation for something this small says everything about where their priorities really were. >> This is a um Yeah, these are THC [music] cards. This here is what you the bottom of it, right? >> Yeah. You stick the cartridge in there. >> Yeah, it just screws out there. Was there anything else over there? >> That's all I handle. For a solid stretch, the deputies [music] fixated on getting a single vape cartridge out of its packaging, treating it like it might contain something far more serious. It didn't. It was [music] sticky. It was stuck. And that's it. Watching grown officers struggle over a stubborn cartridge kind of undercuts the whole tough guy energy from earlier in the stop, doesn't it? >> Can't get it in there. I can hear it like it's sucking there pretty good. >> Yeah. Oops. As you figure it out later. Is that one mine? >> How do you normally get that out of there? >> What is it? >> Looks like a cart. >> Where did you find it? >> Passenger side. >> Oh, I don't know what that is. >> Okay. Do you know who all the who's all the THC vapes are? >> I do not. >> Okay. So, they're not yours. They're not his. That's your story. >> They're not yours, though. >> No, they're not. Neither Jake nor Charice would claim ownership of the vapes found in the car, and Sharice brought up a recent trip to Michigan where other people had been riding along. Deputy Spence tried to pin it on them anyway, insisting somebody had to own it. Here's the thing. If nobody admits to it, nobody can prove otherwise. That's reasonable doubt, not a confession waiting to happen. >> We were up in Michigan over the weekend visiting his family. >> I got you. >> I had people in the car. So, >> okay. In your car? So, it wasn't his though. >> Not that I'm aware of. He's doing it behind my back. >> It's either him or it's you. You know what I mean? Just some carts and stuff. That's perfect. He said no. He just said he was getting really [ __ ] on there. was. >> In the end, Jake walked away with warnings for the tail light and exhaust that supposedly started this whole ordeal, along with real tickets for the seat belt, the insurance, [music] and the obstruction charge that never should have existed in the first place. Deputy Spence and Deputy Smith faced no consequences of their own, free to run the same playbook on the next car with the wrong sticker on it. But unlike them, the next group of officers didn't get off so easily. Akran police had been watching this car long before the lights ever came on. Convinced the driver had left a known drug house. Instead of pulling him over right away, they waited. They followed. They picked their moment. Using a rolled stop sign as the reason to finally make contact over rolled the stop sign back there to East Car. You do. >> You have your ID on you? >> Her ID. >> What's your name? >> John. You said say it a little louder. >> John Little. John Little. She have her >> running. The name came back with a result that mattered a lot more than the stop sign ever did. John Little's license was suspended. That gave the officer a legitimate reason to keep things going. No argument there. But watch how quickly this conversation shifted from license status to searching the entire car for no reason. >> Say again. John here suspended the trans. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, yep. At least till we get out of the car. Okay. >> So, John was arrested and many of you will probably say he shouldn't have been driving without a license in the first place. I agree with you. But what you need to understand is that police don't have a right to stop random people without a reason, then start looking for one afterward. By that logic, they could find something on almost anyone. That's exactly why reasonable suspicion exists. But these officers seem to forget that. >> You got any firearm? >> No, sir. >> Any drugs in the car? >> No, sir. >> Any drugs on your leaving? >> I died in prison. Oh, >> is it your cousin? What's your cousin's name? >> Thomas. Thomas last name. >> You got anything on you that I mentioned? >> No, sir. You can check 15 times. >> I don't have nothing on me. We don't do >> shorts underneath, please, or anything like that. >> All right. Yeah. I mean, rule the stop sign. I came up on you pretty fast. >> I do that every time. Ohio law states you don't have to disclose that you have a firearm unless I ask you specifically if you have a firearm. >> Oh, so we always do that. >> I wonder why I'm never pulling in the driveway ever again with >> Well, if that's it, you're just driving on suspension. I see Charice was her name. Is that it? Yeah, she's she can drive you guys away. So, if you, you know, work with me, there's nothing in the car that shouldn't be. I can get you guys on your way. Enter officer height, introducing himself with his narcotic canine partner, laying out the rules before the dog even got out of the car. She explained that a hit from the dog would mean probable cause and likely an arrest for the owner of the vehicle. Reasonable enough on paper, except she also asked for [music] consent to search after already telling John what would happen if he refused. >> Hi, uh, I'm Officer Height, so I have a canine, a narcotic canine. Okay. Um, yeah, but I just I like to give the rundown anyways. Um, so if my dog hits on your vehicle, um, obviously there's a narcotic in here, okay? Um, and since you're the owner of the vehicle, you more than likely probably would go to jail then, okay, if there was something in here. Um, or you can give us consent to search your vehicle. Um, and if anything's found, you know, we can go about it then. But I'm just saying. Do you consent or No, you don't care. >> All right. Do you we can search? >> I asked earlier and you said no. >> Um, do you mind stepping out then for us? >> Oh, still run my dog. You want to go over with her? Just like I don't know. Take her over that way a little bit. >> Hi, Mom. You want to get these? You want to find it? You want to get these? >> The dog worked the car for a solid stretch, sniffing around doors and seams while the officer stood by, watching closely for any kind of reaction. Minute after minute passed with nothing but the dog moving around the vehicle, unaware that this search was about to be hitting a wall that should have ended the whole thing right there. Let's see. Hey. Hey. Oh, okay. Gifty. Gifty. >> Hey. Yippy. Come here. So, my dog doesn't hit. I know. >> Officer Height even acknowledged the dog didn't hit on anything. Guess that's what happens when a trained narcotic dog does its job properly and finds nothing because there was nothing to find. Except instead of wrapping things up, she pivoted straight into asking to look through the car anyway. >> So, you must be honest, right, about nothing being in there. >> Do you mind if we just like for my knowledge know if there's anything in there or not? Do you care if we look? Okay. I mean, yeah. >> There's nothing in there. >> Huh. I appreciate that though. >> I got a scale and that's a box of strip. I found a scale in the center console and it's box and strip. Obviously, he's not going to smell that. >> Yeah, he's not going to smell that. >> Yeah, >> smell another res on it. >> Yeah, he didn't smell that. >> He was interested in that coat in the back seat, too, but I don't know. >> Yeah, I'm going to check on that. And there it is. The moment that should bother anyone paying attention. A clean canine sniff is about as strong a piece of evidence as it gets that there's no odor of drugs in the vehicle. Yet, Officer Height still searched through the center console. She found a scale, then noticed a small amount of residue on it. Too bad the entire stop was illegal because in a proper legal system, none of that would have mattered. >> You have anything in your pockets at all? We had to find a scale of suboxin on the phone. Do you have a prescription for suboxin? >> No. >> No. >> Um, never. >> Little John, I'm going to read you this real quick. These rights of mine. Do you wish to talk to me now? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, obviously we found the scale, right? She the canine came out. She gave his consent to check. Is there anything else in the car that I need to be aware of that I might have found? >> No. >> No. Are you Do you have a prescription for any medication? >> Yeah. Suboxin. >> Suboxin. Where's that prescription at? Um, I don't have it on me. I'm going to the uh since I got from prison, I told them I didn't want to uh pop to do drugs >> and they uh gave me suboxin strips. >> So, you you have a prescription from a doctor. >> Yeah, from the uh the uh medical center. >> Okay. Which medical center? >> I think CHC or Carson Street. From there, cuz I'll be going to both of them. The drive >> like the community health place over on Market Street. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, you got to carry the suboxins in the prescription container. >> The officer read John his rights before asking if he had talked, which is [music] the standard procedure once things start heading towards charges. He asked directly if there was a prescription for the suboxone they had apparently found. John said no, not on him, setting up the next several minutes as a back and forth over paperwork that technically existed but wasn't in his pocket at that exact moment. But believe it or not, that somehow becomes an unforgivable mistake. >> So I didn't. >> I was about to do that today. >> Are you supposed to take Where is Where would that suboxin be at? >> Probably when in the uh in the car either on the floor cuz it was on my lap. I was just about to take it, put it on my tongue. >> Mhm. >> I ain't taking my dose today. >> Why didn't you take it when they give it to you? Isn't that how it's supposed to give it to you? You're supposed to take it there. >> I give you like 50 at a time. >> 50 time. But it should have a package with your name on it and stuff like that. >> No, >> I don't see how they get away with that. That's would make >> No, >> cuz that's the only way that we know that you're supposed to possess the medication that you're supposed to possess when it's a controlled substance. >> Mhm. >> You know what I mean? >> Well, as in you say it like that, I get what you're saying. But they don't do it like that. They give you a rubber band wrapped in a piece of paper with your name on it and your dose. >> Your dose. And it's it should have like a prescription number though, right? Not a number on. >> The conversation turned into a strange debate over methadone and Suboxone programs actually packaging their doses with John describing a rubber bandit strip with his name on it instead of a pharmacy bottle. The officer kept insisting there had to be a proper prescription number somewhere and eventually a strip with his name did turn up in the car. We had no wonder they'd take advantage of every opportunity. Did we? >> In the uh car. >> It's in the car. Where at in the car? probably on the floor. It should be one >> like the strip or the the paper with your name on it. >> Oh, the strip. >> Okay. Yeah, I found the strip and it was >> Yeah. >> So, okay. So, this is what's going to happen. Okay. >> We're going to give you a summon for possession of the suboxin. What you need to do is you're going listen. If you bring in your prescription showing that you're prescribed suboxin or that you're being given it to it for a medical purpose like that, >> then I'll we'll have the prosecutor dismiss the charges. You're not going to jail today. >> Well, why can't you just I can you can follow me to my house and I bring you the prep strips and out. You only got >> Where do you live? Where do you guys live at? >> I live on Cole Street. I just came home from prison, sir. >> So, you you guys are living on Cole? >> Yeah, I got it in my phone that I'm talking to my people that the the program and everything in my phone right there and it just ring it. Can you hand me my phone? I could just show you. There's a prescription on the >> I can show you the per the the advisor I go through to get it >> just like I'm just but you need to have so you have a like the package has your name on it the doctor who prescribed it but you have to have a doctor prescribe this >> I swear to God so they don't you like that I promise you >> I I understand but I'm >> finally the officer laid out the deal John would get a summon for possession rather than an arrest with the charges getting dropped helped if he would later show proof of a legitimate prescription. John tried calling his program to get the documentation on the spot on New Year's Day, which is about the worst possible day to expect anyone to pick up a phone. >> You need to have a prescription for this. So, you have to have some sort of doctor or nurse practitioner or uh physician's assistance prescribed medication. It's one of those things that has to have a requires a doctor. So, you should have some sort of prescription that gives you that. Just like when you go and get methodone, methadone is You know what I'm saying? I was going to the method. >> I know. But that you you have some sort of prescription either on file there or you have something in your house. >> Have you called the person? >> Well, I we need you. It's supposed to be carried in the specific container. >> Well, can I see if he could send me the uh the picture of it? >> Yeah, sure. Can I take these cuffs off here and then I'll let you >> Yeah. I don't want anything to ask me and my sister. If you want to give them a call, >> honestly, there's nothing I hate more than officers who can't stick to their own decisions. If you're going to be a tyrant, then [music] be one all the way. Don't arrest someone and then suddenly change your mind once you're satisfied you've wasted enough of their time. What are we supposed to thank them now that he's just not going to jail today? I don't get it. >> So, we're going to cut you a break. We're not He's not getting a ticket. You're not getting a ticket. >> Okay. Next time he's driving this car, expect him to get a ticket. You get a ticket and the car gets towed. >> Okay. >> They the state can actually take your license for allowing him to drive your car with you knowing that he doesn't have a license. >> Okay. >> So, I don't want to do that. >> Okay. You've been cooperative with us. Going to do our best to work with you. Okay. >> So, he's going to call up on his prescription for the suboxin. At worst case, if they can't send him a picture of his prescription, he'll get a summon and then all he's got to do is take the, you know, like on any medication, you get the pill bottle, which should come in a bag with his prescription on it. All he's got to do is go in and show that to a prosecutor and we'll dismiss the charges. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um, but that that's worst case. >> Okay. >> He's not going to jail today. We'll just It's going to be a few more minutes and then we'll get you guys out of here. >> But you can roll the window up and get warm. >> Come on. >> Yeah, absolutely. I'm I'm okay with that. Just don't leave because he's probably he's not going anywhere. >> What if anybody >> No, they didn't pick up. I guess it's a holiday or so. >> Yeah, it's New Year's Day. They're not going to pick up. >> Look, look, this is December 19th. Please complete a It's asking you to >> Officer Thornton eventually took over explaining the paperwork, confirming John wouldn't be arrested that day and that the passenger wouldn't get a driving charge either, even though she [music] was warned about the risk of letting someone unlicensed drive her car again. Was this so hard to do at the beginning? >> And I called and I complained. >> I'm disrupting my name. >> But that doesn't show us that you have a prescription. So, like I said, the what what's going to happen is is we're going to cut you a summon and that'll give you time to get that paperwork in order. >> What if I get in trouble for a summon? >> You just tell your show paperwork. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah, but you don't have it on here. I mean, that's the only way that we know that you're legally allowed to possess it. And this a summon is better than us sending you to county, right? >> Yeah. But at the same time, you can >> you can explain you're on you're on probation >> because I'm on No, I'm not on probation. I'm just saying >> you're on parole. >> No. >> Okay. So, you get a summon and then if you show and again, I'm telling you right now and I'm on my camera. If you provide a prescription that shows that you have a prescription for Suboxin, I'm going to tell the prosecutor we're going to drop the charges. >> Okay. So, what's your name? >> I'm Officer Thornton. It's going to be on the paperwork. Okay. So again, like I said, you're not getting a ticket for driving. We're cutting her a break, but she knew you were didn't have a license to drive, but it's called wrongful trust. So if you drive her car without a license, you're going to get her license suspended and the state's going to take her car from her. All right? So you guys can break and I'm giving you the chance to show and I believe you, but just because I unfortunately I can't it's not 100% certain. You know what I mean? If you had a picture of >> John Little walked away without an arrest that day, receiving only a summon for the suboxone possession with Officer Thornton confirming the charge would likely get dismissed once John provided proof of his prescription from the medical center. Still, if the sources are accurate, John Little did decide to sue the officers. While we wait to see how that one turns [music] out, let's move on to the last case of today's video. What should have been just a simple seat belt stop in Tulsa turned into something much bigger the moment the driver realized this wasn't [music] his first rodeo with these officers. And if by the end of the video you don't start thinking this was some kind of setup just because the officer was bored during his shift, then come back. Tell me then. >> I'm going this as far as I'm going to do it. >> Can you put this all the way down? >> I'm about to get my license and insurance. >> Can you put this all the way down? >> This is the farthest I'mma let down my window. I don't know why you pulled me over. cuz you're not wearing a seat belt. >> All right. Well, can you just give me my ticket and we will be on our way. Can I get your name and badge number? >> Can I get your name and badge number? >> Officer Hoy H O E Y badge number 243. >> All right. Here's my Here's my uh license and registration. >> Driver's license. >> Here's right here. >> See the back of the driver's license? >> It's right here, sir. >> Can I see the back of the driver's license? >> It's right here, sir. I'm not do I gave you everything you need. It's right here. I'm not covering anything. Here you go. Okay. Take the information so I could be on my way. I'm getting tired of being harassed by you guys. Can you call your sergeant? I want a sergeant. I want a sergeant. >> Can I have your driver's license? >> I want a sergeant. Please call a sergeant. Can you please call a sergeant? I'm being harassed at this point. I'm getting all the evidence. >> What? I'm being harassed at this point because you guys keep bothering me. If it's just basic traffic seat belt violation, give me the violation. I'll take the violation. >> Everything I've asked you for, you've not done. I've asked you to roll down the window so I can see. >> I don't have to roll down my window. >> Right from the start, the driver rolled down his window just enough to hand over everything the officer could possibly ask for. License, registration, insurance, all of it ready before a single question got asked. He wanted a name and badge number in return, which is about as basic a request as it gets from someone being stopped. But for an officer who thought he was in the right, he seemed pretty afraid to give out his information. >> I have to do it for my safety. That's your That's your policy, not the state's policy. Okay. So, here's my license is right here, right on the video. Here you go. Take my information. Go give me my uh seat belt ticket. And please call your sergeant. Please call your sergeant. I want matter of fact, call Sergeant Streer. Call Sergeant Streer, please. >> X-ray 246. >> I'm tired of y'all bothering me. >> I pulled you over. I'm not bothering you. >> Well, take my information and give me my seat belt ticket then and leave it at that. I'm getting tired of extras, please. And I Is your camera on? I don't see no light. I don't see no light that your camera is not on. It's not operational. >> It's on. >> Okay. Cuz I'm need your sergeant and take my It's right here in your face. >> You keep covering it up with your finger. >> I'm not covering up anything. >> I see your driver's license. right here. All right. Uh, get out my vehicle, please. >> Out of my vehicle, please. Uh, like I said, we're call Did you call Streer? >> I did not call Streer. >> Well, call Streer. I want a sergeant. I want a white shirt. >> I want a sergeant. >> Call a sergeant. >> Call a sergeant, please. Sergeant, please. I've been requesting a sergeant. He will not call a sergeant. >> I just called dispatch and they haven't responded. >> No sergeant. A sergeant. I need a sergeant. >> You call people. >> Yes, you do. That's you. >> Rather than simply processing the paperwork already sitting in his hand, the officer kept pushing for the window to come down further, insisting it was for his own safety. Except that's not written [music] anywhere in Oklahoma traffic law. That's just department policy. And department policy doesn't even override a driver's basic rights. >> That's your policy. If I ask for a sergeant or a white shirt, >> I need I need I need the sergeant. It's right here. Okay. Here's my information. Take my information. This the sixth time in two months. >> Every time you pull >> sixth time in two months going to get pulled over by someone. >> Yeah. You could have just simply just uh talking about raised down. Y'all don't have to do that. I I want a sergeant. Call a sergeant, please. >> Once the officer told him to step out of the vehicle, the driver kept his composure and kept repeating the same request [music] for a sergeant over and over. Like a man who already knew exactly how this pattern usually plays out. He just wanted oversight on the interaction. Here's the thing. Wanting a witness in uniform is an obstruction. That's just common sense. [music] >> Did you get my information? >> Huh? >> Did you get my information? >> That's what I'm working on. >> You don't need my phone number. >> Okay. If you don't want to provide it though, >> you don't need my phone number. >> That's fine. >> This is what you need right here. This is what you need right here. Harassment. Straight harassment. My vehicle in my name. License and registration provided. Did a whole U-turn. >> Suddenly, the officer brought up a U-turn in a construction zone and swerving behind other vehicles. [music] Charges that hadn't been mentioned even once in the first 5 minutes of the stop. If those violations were real and serious, wouldn't they have been the opening line instead of the afterthought tacked on minutes later? Whoop! Behind other vehicles like swerving behind other vehicles. Talking about seat belt. No, y'all are violating me. Getting tired of it. >> Insurance. >> I gave you the I had everything right here sitting in your face. Did you not get my insurance? >> I wasn't looking at insurance. I'm going in order. >> See, so you just you trying to get Man, you y'all on some bogus. Did you call your sergeant? Call your sergeant. I need your sergeant. I walk back to >> I need your sergeant. No, you need to call your sergeant. I need your sergeant at this point. I need your sergeant. Call your sergeant. >> Call your sergeant. Please call your sergeant. Call your sergeant. Call your sergeant. >> Call your Call your head. Please call. No, >> I'm not going to call someone. I call your sergeant standing next to you. >> Call your S. You're supposed to You're supposed to That's your policy. You are a peace server. All right. Call your sergeant. You're not being a peace server at this point. Call your sergeant. You sit here. Get You needed my information for a basic seat belt violation. A a basic seat belt violation. You could have got my information, went there, gave me my seat belt ticket, and left. You're taking my VIN number now, so you're getting my information. I need your sergeant >> if you >> I need your sergeant. No, I need your sergeant. I need your sergeant at this point. >> The driver kept demanding a sergeant with a level of persistence that honestly deserves some respect, repeating the request like a broken record until someone finally listened. The officer told him flatly he wasn't going to call anyone despite the driver reminding him that citizens [music] requesting a supervisor is supposed to be standard department policy. >> All right. One citation today for the seat belt. >> I still want the sergeant here. >> Okay, they're on their way. One citation for the seat belt. It's only $20. Reminder, if you don't wear it, you will get hurt in a wreck. I've seen way too many people get killed lately. I don't want to see anymore. This is your paper copy. Last thing from you on that is a signature in the box. Supervisor should be here shortly. Next time, conduct yourself better. Y'all got me [ __ ] up. [ __ ] got me hella [ __ ] up. It was all he had to do. >> Frustration boiled over as the driver openly said he was tired of being harassed. And honestly, after watching several minutes stretch out over a seat belt violation, it's hard to argue he didn't have a point. This wasn't a dangerous felony stop. This was paperwork that [music] should have taken minutes, not a prolonged standoff over a sergeant who still hadn't arrived. That's it. That's all he had to [ __ ] do was mark ass. When dumb ass [ __ ] think they got something going when they get their [ __ ] popped, [ __ ] you got you you on some other [ __ ] [ __ ] think they going to pop somebody on some other [ __ ] What type of [ __ ] is that, [ __ ] He ain't got no [ __ ] no. No, [ __ ] Not me. Not me. I ain't going through that. I ain't going through that at all. >> As the paperwork got signed, the officer told the driver to conduct himself better next time. A line that lands pretty rich coming from someone who ignored repeated requests for a supervisor throughout the entire stop. The driver's [music] frustration didn't disappear with the ticket. And honestly, why would it? Getting told to behave better after being the one to ask for basic accountability the whole time is a special kind of irony. >> All right. Got the hopefully the sergeant. He's also blocking the road. He's blocking the public roadway also. Just put that on record. What's up, man? Man, I just want to let you know, man. These officers getting out of hand, bro. They getting out of hand. Y'all done pulled me over about six times in two months. Six times. Two months. Thinking I'm on some other [ __ ] I'm trying to work, man. I got babies and [ __ ] bro. >> Once the supervisor finally rolled up long after the citation had already been handed over, the driver made sure to point out the patrol car parked in a way that blocked the public roadway. Small detail, but it does fit the pattern of officers holding everyone else to standards they themselves don't hold. Now, I hope you know my face. I I was one of the guys that uh chased that white guy that stole our vehicle when I had to find my own vehicle when y'all didn't help. >> Okay. The black truck when we chased the dude in the black Durango. That was me and my wife. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I'm getting tired of being harassed. I need help. I'm getting tired of being harassed. I'm doing like it's crazy [ __ ] >> Did you have your seat belt on? >> No, I didn't. But still at the same time, he could have like I got on video. I would I left my [ __ ] right here where he can get my information cuz I don't trust him. You feel me? >> Yeah. >> All right. Simply give me my ticket >> and I can go on my way. He all around my car taking my van doing all this nonsense. Bro, simply give me my ticket if it's that violation. And we'll leave it at that. Plus, he did a whole U-turn in construction. Plus, he's swerving around cars in construction. I'm not doing nothing violent. He doing all this violation [ __ ] I'm tired of it, bro. >> In the end, the driver walked away with a single $20 seat belt citation. the exact outcome he had been asking for from the very first minute of the stop. But for some cops, everything seemed so hard. If you think this case was disturbing, brace yourself. The next video takes it even further. We're covering an interrogation so unsettling it redefineses abuse of power on camera. Every case gets darker, every tactic more shameless, and trust me, the next video might be the most shocking one yet. See you in the next one.