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He's breaking the dinner and in front of you. >> I want to I want to I want to get >> Why are y'all letting him do this? Might >> as well get it open now. >> Why are Y'ALL LETTING HIM DO THIS? >> Why am I being detained? Why am I being detained in front of my mama? Please. >> Because under arrest for interference or what? >> I want to go down and take some videos of it on the outside. >> That's not allowed, sir. >> And your name? >> Officer Sally. >> You guys have a badge number or anything? Yeah, I have a badge on. You have an ID for me? >> Police officers are trained to know the law inside and out. So, what's the excuse when they're the ones breaking it? [music] Today, we're looking at cases where badges were used to pressure, punish, and [music] provoke people who did absolutely nothing wrong. And somehow, none of it seemed to bother the officers involved. Let's get into it. You give me the keys or this door's coming down. I'm telling you. And everybody that gets in my way is getting tased and going to jail. >> She moved out. >> Okay. All right. Seems like they don't understand English around here. >> It was still dark outside when officers showed up at a quiet house in Jackson County, Georgia, over what looked like a simple property dispute. Thomas was home with his kids while his estranged wife, freshly separated and staying with a co-orker, wanted [music] her van back. What began as a low-key talk about keys would turn into one of the most damning [music] pieces of body cam footage a department has ever had to answer for. >> Hey there, >> how are you? >> I'm good. What can I help you with tonight? >> I need to get my van pretty much. >> Okay. And I really want to get my kids and I don't know if that's like illegal or just like I just I need to do everything illegal. >> All right. Well, let me let me try to paint a little bit. You get married or anything? >> Is this your house? >> Yes. >> Okay. You live here, [music] I'm assuming? >> Yeah. Yes. I haven't We've been separated for a few days. >> Okay. Where are the kids at? Are they here? >> They're here. >> Okay. All right. So, are you guys having some issues or something? Okay. Okay. >> Well, I mean, I can be here so you guys can talk [music] or or anything like that. I mean, I I can't tell you what to do, but at the same time, >> five kids were sleeping under that roof while their parents worked out a separation that had only started a few days earlier. And somehow, the officer thought handling divorces was part of his job. Melissa explained her husband had already taken his own truck, leaving her without a way to get around, which made the van suddenly feel like the only leverage left in the whole [music] situation. I still don't see any reason for the officer to be here, but let's be patient. >> Um, I can try to help mediate a little bit. >> It's kind of late in the night. So, did did something happen? >> Yeah, he came and got I had his truck. He was I told him I wasn't ready to come home yet. and I've been staying um with him as a roommate. >> Okay. How long has that been going on for? >> Since probably midday. There's five kids in this house right now. >> Okay. Where where are you planning on taking the kids to? >> I was going to take them back there with me. I don't I really don't want to go through the front door. All right. Well, if you don't mind, hang out for just a moment. Let me get my supervisor over here. We're going to talk. >> So, that's that's basically right that she's got she's been staying with some friends. I guess wanting to avoid an emotional scene at the front door is a completely reasonable instinct. And Melissa said as much before, the responding officer decided this needed a supervisor's opinion. That supervisor was Sergeant Morero. And the moment he stepped into this call marked [music] the exact point where a routine domestic dispute started sliding towards something far more serious. >> Her and her husband had had a fight. They both live here. They both have kids here. Um what she's wanting to do essentially is take the kids back with her to her friend's house. >> Mhm. Um, I told her, I mean, that's your decision, but it'd be best if you talk to your husband about that. The most I can really do is just try to meet [music] and see if they can come to a conclusion on that. And she says, like I said, that they had a fight. >> Is he against it? >> I don't know yet cuz we haven't talked to him. You got friends over maybe? >> Yeah. >> Do you have the keys? >> No, I don't have my keys. >> Nobody had actually spoken to Thomas yet, but the plan to retrieve that van was already moving forward regardless of keys or permission. Sergeant Morero framed his advice as neutral, telling Melissa it was ultimately her decision while clearly nudging her toward retrieving the van anyway, a [music] convenient way of giving direction while dodging any responsibility for where that direction actually led. >> Go in if it's open. This is your house. >> I'm sure they had everything. >> Hey, knock. This is your house. >> TJ, come here. The police is here. Come here. I'm coming to get my van. My van. Come on. The police is right here. Come on. You need to come outside. >> Yes, sir. >> Hey, how's it going, man? Can we talk to you for a minute? >> We're just trying to talk about her situation. >> I can I can talk. >> Okay. All right. >> All right. >> Well, she's she's wanting to get her keys to her van. If you can if you can let her get those. It is in her name, so we want to make sure. >> It's in my name, too. >> Okay. Well, >> you're a cosigner. >> Yeah, but it's in her name as well, so you can >> It's in my name as well, too. I know, >> so I want to keep it. >> Thomas got called out of his own house in the middle of the night just to argue about a vehicle title. Hardly the calm introduction anyone would want. He pointed out immediately that his name was on the van, too. A fair point that should have slowed everyone down since a co-signer still [music] holds an actual legal claim to shared property. >> Either you give me the truck or you give me the van. One of the two. I told you I wasn't ready to go, too. >> Is it fine if you let her use it? >> No. >> Why? >> Well, that Why can't she let me use it? >> And that's fine. >> I need a vehicle. >> But she she's going to need a vehicle to be able to drive. And it's in both of y'all's names. >> Hey, tell him to stop yelling. There is kids in this house. [music] >> Okay. >> All right. So, here. >> All right. So, here's the deal. Um, you can gain access to the property, whichever way you want. >> He's just a co-op. >> That's what I'm saying. Even if both of your names are on there, anybody can take it at any time without anybody's permission. >> So, you [music] can take it. You need to get the keys. >> So, which is it? Can anyone just take shared property whenever they please, or does actual ownership mean anything here at all? Sergeant Morero seemed to flip that answer depending entirely on who was asking, telling Thomas his name on the title barely mattered, while simultaneously [music] insisting officers couldn't personally help anyone break into a house just to reach it. >> But you need to get into the house to get the keys. Do you know where they're at? So, we can't assist her. >> Mhm. >> Breaking anything, >> of course. >> So, yeah. >> So, here's the thing. We can't assist you in in breaking in to the house, [music] >> okay? >> But you can break into the house, okay? to get your keys and your van and you can't you will not get in trouble for it. >> Okay. Well, I don't want to do it on that door. >> Okay. >> There's no kids. >> Okay. You're more than welcome to do it. I can only watch. >> I don't want to >> kick the door. >> I can't kick the door in. It's your property. >> Do that. That promise lasted exactly as long as it took Sergeant Morero to finish his own sentence because seconds later he told Melissa she could break into the house and would face zero consequences for it. Georgia law has never granted an officer the authority to guarantee immunity for a crime in progress. Yet here was a sergeant coaching [music] someone through exactly how to kick a door open. >> Do you get body pushes or Don't break the window. >> Definitely moved. >> It's latched. >> There we go. You have to give me the car. Stop doing this to our kids. >> TJ, you're making this worse. Once Melissa hesitated, the plan simply shifted to recruiting her coworker instead. as if the same act became more acceptable the moment a different pair of hands committed it. Thomas kept asking the only question that actually mattered here. Where was the eviction notice? And kept getting variations of an answer that carefully avoided the word warrant entirely. [snorts] >> One of your friends, can they come in and kick it in from there? Both of them. I think the front one would be better cuz it's less. >> TJ, we're coming in. Even if you let us out [music] in in or not, I'm kicking the door in. They're letting me I'm about to have two men come kick your door in. They Tell them. >> Tell them. Tell them. >> Joey. >> Tell them. >> You moved out, Joey. >> I did not move out. You got the text message. >> No, I didn't. I said I'm separating the door. Look. Look. >> You need to open the door. >> Go ahead. Show them whatever you want. I'm still a resident here. >> Watch. >> And where's the eviction? >> Hm. I wonder if these officers have ever had problems in their own marriages. I'm not saying the wife is right or wrong. Their situation is simply what it is, [music] and they can work it out themselves. But since the officers were already called onto the scene, there was [music] absolutely no need for them to pick sides. Unfortunately, that's exactly what's about to happen in the next few minutes. >> I left. I found somewhere to go. I I didn't need to evict you. You moved out. >> You let me find You >> I can You You turned my phone off. The The door is coming open one way or another. >> Dude, y'all need to shut up. My kids are in there. >> We can try. You're You're the one being loud, >> TJ. Go on. Open the door, TJ. >> Just go get her. >> Open the door. >> Go get your friends. Just go get your friends. >> Yeah, they can. >> Yeah, they can. Boy, what are you drugging? Get the out of my house. You ready, bud? >> You ready? >> Are taxpayers really funding a department where a sergeant threatens to tase and arrest anyone who happens to be standing in the way, regardless of whether they've actually broken any law themselves? [music] That blanket threat covered friends, family, and apparently anyone unlucky enough to be standing nearby. None of whom had [music] done a single thing to justify it. He's going to He's going to get tased and he's going to jail. I'm telling you. >> I don't care. You show me the You show me the uh eviction papers. >> I don't have eviction papers. >> And then she resides here. Then she resides here. You give me the keys or this door's coming down. >> I'm telling you. And everybody that gets in my way is getting tased and going to jail. >> She moved out. >> Okay. All right. Seems like they don't understand English around here. >> No, I understand English perfectly. >> Then open the damn door >> for what? >> Because she needs to get her keys. Keys to what? >> To her van. >> My van. >> To her van. >> She don't pay the van. >> Her is her name on it. >> My name's on it. >> Okay, then it's her van, too. >> Okay, it's mine, too. And I want it to stay here. >> That ain't that ain't the way it works. >> How not? >> Do you have a warrant to kick my door in? >> Yeah, they can do whatever they want. >> You going to have to? >> We're not here to kick the door open. We're here to get her her stuff. >> You just said you're going to kick my door in and tase me. >> We're going to if you don't open the door. How are you? >> Every person who's watched a single video about their own rights knows to ask if officers actually have a warrant. [music] And that's exactly what Thomas kept asking here, only to get vague talk about the van instead of a real answer. Encouraging someone to pop a hinge or a lock off a door isn't policing. And these officers are about to learn that the hard way. >> I mean, I'm not. >> Is it not my van, too? >> It doesn't matter. Pop this off, man. Pop that off. Just pop IT OFF. JUST POP IT OFF. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. Sh. This is grown man time. Pop it off, bro. Just please pop it off. Please pop it off. >> Please pop I got to go back to work, homie. Just pop it off. >> They're not going to do it. >> Just pop it off like a grown adult, bro. Stop talking to your mom. The door needs to be done. >> Hey, the door. Hey, listen. I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to be I'm not trying to be aggressive. I'm not putting my hand. I just want him to open the door so we can talk. >> What's up, >> bro? What's up? From inside the door. >> From inside. Listen. I If I came because we just want her vehicle. >> We want Listen, you're getting so angry, dog. >> A man who Melissa was staying with then got involved and Thomas clearly wasn't happy about it. Who knows, [music] maybe he was even the reason they separated. But that's not important here. What matters is that the officers allowed not the wife, who was actually a resident, but her friend, [music] to break down the door. It makes you wonder how exactly did these officers decide whose side they were going to take. >> And I don't want to be angry at your drunk. I smell liquor on you. You're aing loser, dog. She told you time and time again how much that she wanted [ __ ] from you. Get more pictures of her feet, you sicko. >> What's the whole story? Listen, I'm not doing any I'm just gentlemen. >> Hey, listen. You need to leave. Gentlemen, ladies, if we're if we're not going to open the door, then we we got to >> All right. >> Hold on. >> Are you going to Are you Yes, we are doing Hold on. He's going to open the door. >> Help me, >> Scott. Go ahead. You try. >> Okay, >> listen. You're going to hold it. >> You go home, boy. >> Boy. >> Little boy. >> Little boy. She's just like you. Watch out. Stop yelling, Melissa, for a >> I will. >> Listen, she listen. >> Hey, that's your fault. You can press >> a sergeant supposedly trying to keep the peace shouldn't be the one telling a furious father that the whole escalating mess is somehow his own fault to begin with. By this point, multiple people were shouting over each other, and the only adult on the scene actually wearing a badge had already given up on calming any [music] of it down. Listen. >> She just busted my glass. >> Yes. We're going to break the door down in a second. One of the pulveries. >> Just don't bust the glass. >> Why are y'all let do this? >> Because we need her vehicle. We need her vehicle. >> YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DON'T GOT A CAR. BROKE BOY. >> Broke boy. You're a [ __ ] boy. Bro, go have some more kids. You're a loser, dog. >> Hey, you're a loser. >> Why y'all letting him do this, >> right, man? >> Yo, that's him. >> That's him. >> Why y'all let >> So, if we kick the glasses, is it the same difference? Cuz the glass is going to come out. You're going to hurt yourself. >> Okay, watch out. Watch out. >> You don't do what you got to do. >> Why are y'all letting him do this, man? >> I wish you were there. >> You're going to have to do it. >> Why are y'all letting him do this? >> Because >> I want to press hard. >> He's breaking the inner in front of you. >> I [music] want to I want to I want you >> Why ARE Y'ALL LETTING HIM DO THIS? Might >> as we get it open now. >> WHY ARE Y'ALL LETTING HIM DO THIS? >> Open it. Open the door, man. You're You're doing this. You're doing this. The police don't miss. That's enough. That's enough. >> Open it. >> That's enough. The whole door. Hey, make sure y'all get the police on there. >> Get the Yeah, because Let us get her vehicle. Let us get her vehicle. >> I got something for you. >> Yeah, I bet you do, crackhead. Get Get me off, kid. Get the Yeah, it's real funny. Like, who is he around your kids, though? Like, where are your kids at? like get your kids now and you're not home. Right. >> Somewhere in this stretch came a genuinely remarkable instruction. An officer telling everyone not to break the glass while actively supervising the door itself getting broken down entirely. Someone on scene said it plainly. [music] This was breaking and entering happening directly in front of law enforcement. And nobody standing there wearing a badge seemed to find that description inaccurate. >> Hey, listen. >> Hey, you trying to answer me? Hey, hey, hey. >> Stop. >> The police are right here. They're going to help us retrieve this stuff now. >> Just don't fight them. >> Exactly. So, I knew we're about to. >> If she puts her hands on, >> can you guys help us in there? If she puts her hand, >> somebody puts her hands on you. Yeah. >> You just chill the out and let the police go ahead and go. >> I got to go in there. >> Do not put your hands on any of them. >> Do not >> No. No. >> Watch out. Let me go first. >> I don't ain't coming in here. >> You ain't coming in here, bro. >> You don't have to. That's fine. I don't have to. >> The moment that door finally gave way, the scene turned into exactly the kind of chaos anyone could have predicted. Officers now warning people not to put hands on each other inside a home. They'd just help [music] force open. Would Melissa face any consequences for what just happened? I think we all know the answer to that question. >> Can you go in there with her though before they hurt her? >> Hey, get over Come on, guys. Like, >> bro, come on, man. You're going to let her go to jail now, bro. >> No, it's her [music] house. >> I'm stepping back there. I don't need >> Take a moment to cool off. We got it. It's not his house. >> Kicking the door. >> Yes, you're right down here. >> Hey, we [ __ ] Let your wife leave. >> You don't pay somebody a dude kick in the door. >> Man, that's [ __ ] dude. >> That's [ __ ] >> I hear you. >> Yo, you know it's [ __ ] >> She lives here. She can do what she wants. She can kick in the door. >> Yeah, she lives here. >> Don't live here. Kick in the door. >> If she wants to break the door, she could break the door. >> He can't break the door down. >> If she asked him to break the door, that's on them. >> You don't see us out here breaking the door. >> Y'all don't care. What's your name? >> Yeah. What's your name and badge number? >> Name and badge number. >> Officer Marsill. 740. >> Excuse me. >> Officer Maring 740. I didn't run out with no voice. >> Look at my door. >> A name and a badge number spoken out loud on camera is exactly why body cams exist in the first place. And Sergeant Morero's own words ended up doing more damage to his case than anything Thomas said all [music] night. In the same breath, officers mentioned they'd be back for the kids, too, thinking he'd done everything exactly the way he was supposed to. >> Yo, watch him. >> All right, you got your keys. Let's go. >> This isn't my car. Why didn't you do this? >> He gave me He gave me the key to his truck. >> Because they're saying they need it for the >> Get your two daughters out of their bed. >> No, they're not. We're done. >> We're done. Come on. >> He know. He knows better than that. Listen, we'll be back to get the kids. Don't worry. >> You think we're going to let him live with a boy got you, >> dude? I need to get my >> I got her because I'm a good person. You're a loser. Come back. >> You're a loser. All right. Pay for some more feet picks, bro. >> Lock it in. >> We're pressing charges on him. >> We're pressing charges on him. >> That's a big truck. >> His last name. >> I need my >> Where exactly was the actual property owner during the first 16 minutes of all this chaos unfolding? He turned out to be the one person on this street with genuine legal standing in that house. And his arrival marked the first moment all [music] night that something resembling an actual legal process was finally about to enter the conversation. >> All right, let's go. >> Smoke some more rocks. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Cannot believe. >> Okay, let's go. Let's go. >> No. I tried to tell you I didn't want your [ __ ] up. >> Ma'am, >> I'm [ __ ] up. >> Ma'am, down. >> Yeah. Get on. Keep rocks. >> I'll be back for my kids. >> Keep rocks. >> How does she know about you? >> You put on her. Just put put her cloth on her. Come on. She needs to go to jail. I don't want this around my kid. >> Come on. >> Notice the very specific distance Sergeant Morero tries to put between himself and the actual crime, insisting he personally never kicked anything while conveniently orchestrating every step that led to it happening. Anyway, >> don't call him a mother. >> Don't call the go. Y'all go home. >> All right. >> Now, I'll be willing to >> Here you go. >> I'll be willing to speak with you. >> This is the property owner. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> Yes, sir. Uh, the best recourse in my opinion is to uh evict everybody out of this house cuz you got no good tenants right here. Uh the reason the reason why the door was kicked in was because the current tenant would not allow the other tenant to come into the house that she legally has a right to be in. All we asked was to give us the keys and then we would go away. They refused entry and that's the only way we can make entry. Two weeks after this footage was recorded, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation arrested Sergeant Morero and Jefferson PD terminated him that same day, ending a 9-year career over one night's decisions. He now faces four state charges, three [music] of them felonies, including terroristic threats and violating his oath of office, plus a criminal trespass count. Ah, you got to love to see it. Unfortunately, he wasn't the only officer who went too far. [music] M. Mosley got a call that no parent ever wants. Her adult son had been walking to the store when police [music] stopped him, tased him, and put him in handcuffs. By the time she reached the scene, he was still cuffed with a taser probe hanging out of [music] his arm. And every officer standing around seemed to have a slightly different version of why any of this happened in the first place. >> Please help me to understand why you got my son in handcuffs. >> Why? Why did y'all do my son like this? Let me tell you the truth. All right. The man came around me. I didn't even know he was flagging me down, right? Until he hit the damn little whoop. I turn around, right? Turn around. He said, "Put your hands up against the car, sir." He didn't tell me nothing. >> No, no, no, no. Let me finish, please. I'm finished. >> Calm down. >> We're going to remove the probe from your arm. So, stop hanging on to me. Okay. >> Thank you, sir. >> So, y'all tas me to you in just a minute. Let me handle this part of the >> tas me for no reason. told me. >> Don't worry about it, baby. [music] Don't worry about it. >> Don't worry about it, baby. Don't worry about it, baby. >> Don't even worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's going to get taken care of. I [music] bet you that. >> Every parent has a right to ask this [music] exact question. And Miss Mosley asked it the moment she arrived. Why was her grown son sitting handcuffed in a parking lot at all? Nobody standing there offered a straight answer [music] right away. And that hesitation alone said more about this stop than anything anyone eventually got [music] around to explaining. >> What's your name? >> Dementius. Tell him your name. >> He's an adult. That's okay. >> Yeah, cuz why y'all pull y'all? Why didn't he pull him over? >> Out here mostly. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what's going on with all this. I deserve I want play in work. So need some help out here. So I got here. >> Has he ever been in trouble before? >> No. >> He don't get in trouble. >> That's good >> at all. >> I understand. And I understand. >> You can as soon as we get these out of my primary goal right now is to get the probes out of him. [music] They're not tasting. >> I just got here, but my primary goal right now is to get the >> Which officer tasting? >> I don't know. Yeah, I I'll explain a little bit what's going on. Um, who are you? Oh, >> you seen I work here. >> Okay. Who >> were you to him? >> That's my son. >> So, um, I wasn't There's only one officer [music] here. The officer obviously tapas them. So, we don't know the exact series of events. Essentially, in the in the general sense, we have a call out here for domestic dispute. So, we have someone walking away and from what it sounds like when a police officer is trying to get the attention of someone walking away from the scene. And >> according to her son, he never realized an officer was trying to get his attention until the taser fired, which is a genuinely strange sequence for anyone to defend [music] as a warning. Only after he was already hit did anyone tell him to put his hands on the car, meaning the actual command came after the consequence for supposedly ignoring it. >> Again, I don't know if he ran. Well, I [ __ ] up. I have no idea. Um, but it's within our policy that if if we're going to go detain someone and they're not being cordial and um cooperative and they refuse, it could lead to us getting injured, [music] we are allowed to use taser. And so it sounds like that's what happened. Um, and so that's why he was tased. Okay. So you want to hang out and wait. Hold on. >> Oh, I'm going to hang out. >> You want to hang out and wait for Sergeant Hall? >> You want to hang out and wait for Sergeant Hall? >> It's in Sergeant Hall's finishing up. It's in great further. >> He over [music] here with his baby mom. >> He was walking to the store. >> Get the general information. Okay. >> They didn't have no reason [music] to touch him. >> Like I said, I wasn't I we weren't out here. So, you can speak to Sergeant Hall when she's done, but that's that's what it was. >> Ma'am, they going they going to follow up. It was very incorrect what happened. [music] I was standing at the door. He used to work here. >> I work here. He was walking across the parking lot. [music] They said something to him. They I guess they assumed that he was the person that they looking for, >> right? >> He said whatever he said and the guy [music] takes him on site. He didn't resist. He didn't fight. He didn't do anything. I witness it. In fact, I videoed it. So the fact the fact that Yes. >> So the fact that they're saying what they're saying, I'm standing my ground, >> right? [music] >> You don't have to argue with them. You have your public defender right to ask for their [music] supervisor. So, why does tasing someone become the default option before officers even try to simply call out again or walk up calmly? That question never really got answered here. Ms. Mosley [music] made a point of asking whether her son had a history of trouble at all, and the answer was a clean no, which makes the entire justification for force even harder to swallow. >> Okay, I've actually got somebody calling me back right now. >> But I'm the right one. I'm the right one. I got the money to take care of this. >> I promise you. I promise you [music] I'm the right one. They messed with the right one this time. >> You did nothing wrong. Don't do >> I'm not going to let it go. I'm not going to let it go either. >> Let them do what they [music] need to do. >> Because they want to try to get you for something that you have not done. >> Yes. So I was standing at the door a whole lot and I don't know. >> And how many times did they tase him? >> Too many. >> We which officer tased him? >> Whoever got that number Which car? >> This one right [music] here. >> You know which officer drive this car? >> He chased him. >> Um PD269. You did it. >> No, ma'am. >> A witness working right there watched the entire thing happen and her account cut right through the department's version of events. He [music] never fought, never resisted, and did nothing before getting tased. Officers apparently just assumed he matched whoever they were actually looking for that night. a remarkably casual way to identify a suspect before deploying a weapon on him. >> Sir, >> here. Just let >> you tase you taste my son. >> Seriously, I understand. I understand >> that. I'm very upset. >> I understand that. >> And it's [music] a fact. It's so It's bad that black people can't just walk to the store like and they kill boys like him that don't get in noing trouble. I'm not going for this. I'm not going for this. >> I understand. What I just want to talk to you about is I know you were on the phone cuz I heard >> Yeah. One of the sergeants supposed to be calling me back. >> So proud here. She's going to come talk to you as soon as they get him checked out. I'll make sure he's good to go with probes and everything. On top of that, >> once you're done talking to her, if you could talk to him and just ask her to get blamed cuz I mean you said he ain't got in trouble before. I want a trouble. >> Yeah. Don't Yeah. just let's just let's let it deescalate for a little bit and let them calm down because [music] at the end of the day you have enough witnesses out here, >> okay? >> To to to understand that he did he didn't do nothing but walk. >> And I'm the first thing I'm going to do first thing in the morning is call my attorney. >> How many times must a family bury this exact same story before departments change anything? [music] Nobody gave a clean number for how many times the taser fired, and every answer that came out felt carefully managed. Ms. >> [music] >> Mosley connected this moment to something far bigger than one parking lot. A pattern she [music] has watched repeat with young black men who have done nothing wrong. >> That's that's that's your best bet right there. >> That's the first thing I'm going to do. >> Yeah. So just >> and make it so bad. I'm not even going to call my cousin. I'm I'm going to call my uncle in Atlanta because [music] everybody that's here in South Carolina work for this state. >> Yeah. So let it >> I'm not even going to get an attorney from here. >> Yeah. Just let it deescalate. Let them They about to release him or they going to take it. >> I have no idea. >> Yeah, just let them de deescalate the situation and let him calm down because you you literally have enough witnesses out here to witness that that he he literally just walked across the parking lot as he do [music] every day. >> As he do every day >> when he's not >> him and his girlfriend were not arguing. [music] They had not been in the argument. She comes up here every single day to get food from the restaurant. He comes up here. He used to work at [music] the restaurant. He's very kind. He's very polite. He's done nothing. >> Real kind. >> Yeah. >> And the only [music] reason he here today cuz they they weren't working on my house today. >> He go to work [music] every day. They go he's helping build me a new house. >> So I don't really understand what the malfunction is today. I don't know. So it's crazy. It's sad that we still here [music] unfortunately. But it's okay. you just I'm I'm here to keep you calm right now because [music] there's no reason to to to to all of us be out here in the up world for no reason. You feel me? >> Who her son actually is matters here. Someone who walks that same route daily, helps build houses for a living, and has never given anyone a reason to look twice at him [music] before. Now, asking what exactly malfunctioned today captures the entire absurdity of this stop since nothing about his routine [music] that morning differed from any other ordinary day. Yeah. >> Oh, shut up. >> Yeah. So, and my my goal was to keep him calm so he won't get any further things attached [music] to whatever reason they had to stop him, >> right? >> Because they would would excuse me, >> try to trump the charges down. But, >> and then the thing about it, what he need to do is go back to the call, whoever called [music] him, so that they can verify that it wasn't my son. I'm going to get that information myself. >> Yeah. I mean, any of us could have >> and he really don't even have to uh give them his name. He ain't did nothing. >> He have the right to not give him his give them his name. >> Did they read him his rights right [music] now? >> Most likely not. Why would anyone walking through a parking lot assume officers were addressing them specifically when they hadn't done a single thing wrong that day? And as [clears throat] more time passed, it became clear that these were just racist officers looking for a chance to boost their egos. And they weren't done yet. >> And see, I don't want them to say that you interfere in an investigation, a current investigation, because they going to try to find any reason that they can to let you interfere in a current investigation. >> Right. So, yeah. And if he just walking, he ain't going to think they talking to him. No way. Cuz [music] he know he ain't did nothing. >> He he he does just walk every day. I work I [music] mean my office is literally right there. So I can I can see everything that comes and [music] I just happen to be standing in the door waiting looking for an Amazon package which is so delayed [music] and um trying to figure out why they just text him like that. He was just walking. You can get all their badges. You can get all their badge numbers. Are you ready to go? >> Yeah. The charge quietly shifted at some point here from whatever the original call was about to interfering with an investigation. A conveniently vague label that's hard to disprove and even harder to challenge on the side of a parking lot. Officers kept insisting any real argument belonged in front of a judge. A fair point, except their own use of force is exactly what started this conversation in the first place. Huh? >> Yes. Okay. >> He decided to tell us his name. So, he said he wanted to talk to you. So, we'll show >> So, what's up? >> I don't know. They talking about I got a little >> Why? >> Because I uh interfered with an investigation apparently. >> That's what he said. >> You're the only one that talk to your mom. I'm talking to >> No, that's fine. No, I know. I know you are. I'm not saying that. >> So, you want to answer you want me to answer your questions, but you can't answer a question that I'm asking you. you tased him. >> Yes, he is. He's the one that tased him. >> Okay. He said he didn't hear you when you told him to stop. >> He have no reason to just just assume that you stop. [music] >> You don't care about respect. >> They're not going to like go through all of the legal. >> They don't care about none legal. >> And you can talk to the judge about >> Do you want to talk to him or do you want to argue the [music] case? Cuz if you want to talk to your son, that's what we want you. >> I want to know. >> Nobody ever explained clearly what exactly her son had interfered with. And when Ms. Mostly kept pressing for an answer, officers simply announced that time was up and it was time to go. She made [music] her own position clear. Unarmed, not obstructing anything, simply asking questions about a man she genuinely believed was innocent of whatever they thought [music] he had done. >> I got I just asked him permission. >> Not only But why are you arrested? I just asked him permission to explain to you what's going on because he's an adult. We can't discuss a legal matter with an adult. That's up to him. And he said he's talking to you. So, [music] we can't answer your questions. We can answer his, but it's time for us to go. >> Why am I being detained? Why am I being detained in front of my mama? Please. >> Answer that question. >> Under arrest for interference. >> For interfere with what? >> How did I inter what? >> How did I interfere? >> Okay, time's up. Let's go. Y'all are full of >> you [music] woring. >> Hey man, I get you out. I get you out. >> I'll get you out. Don't worry about it. >> But I want to know. [music] >> Why? >> You got to stay back. >> I don't have no weapons. I'm not I'm not interfering. [music] I'm asking a simple question because y'all are arresting a innocent man that was walking to the store. Why does his status as a legal adult suddenly matter so much only once the family starts asking hard questions? Being told you're not privy to information about your own son is technically accurate procedure. Though it lands very differently when [music] that same adult is sitting handcuffed after getting tased. >> Okay. >> I have questions about that. I want to know about that. >> And then they so therefore you are not privy to that information. You're not part of the investigation. Therefore, we are not required to inform you of that. >> Okay. But I do would like to know his arresting officer name and badge number. >> You telling me I don't have that as well? >> I'm not allowed to offic and I'm Sergeant Hall and that's all we can share with you with I got blood on my >> from my babe. >> Yeah. I'm sorry it's a little sweaty but yeah. So, so again I asked him permission to explain to you what's going on and he denied it. So I can't tell you anything about an adult man's personal life. I understand that you're his mom and that you want to know, but he denied me telling you that. So, what we can tell you is it's time is what you already know. >> 864 31. >> A slightly different wrinkle showed up once Sergeant Hall got involved. Her son hadn't refused to share information out of secrecy. He just simply said he was handling the conversation with his mother himself. Requesting an attorney be present before any footage gets [music] reviewed is a reasonable instinct. Though the sergeant made clear this review was purely internal with the footage itself still available through a formal records request. >> I have a sergeant. >> I have a sergeant supposed to be calling you. >> What's your name on? >> I got the message when I was on my way here. I haven't reviewed any of the footage yet. But I can't I'm telling you now. I can't release any of the information to you because he's in the door. So I can't tell you. I mean, he have the right to tell you that you can release that information to me. >> He denied it. >> He didn't deny it. >> I asked him over there if I could talk to you and his exact words were, "I'm talking to her. You don't need to." So, until he says that I can tell you, I can't tell you. But it's up to him. He can explain it all to you. No problem. >> Okay. Well, go ask him if you can tell. >> I've asked him several times and he's [music] not being very compliant at all. So, we're going to get >> because he's upset. >> I understand that. I do. If you was walking across this parking [music] lot and a black officer called you, you didn't really hear him and then he put the little bells on you. >> Especially you weren't here, so you don't know what happened. Okay. >> Excuse me. >> They were and they seen everything, >> right? So >> they seen everything. Okay. >> Okay. A chain of command that runs from the officer's own report up through a lieutenant and eventually a captain sounds thorough right up until you notice every single link in [music] that chain works for the same department being questioned. Whether anything ever reaches actual [music] internal affairs still depends entirely on people who already have a professional interest [music] in this ending quietly. >> I want my attorney when you review that footage. Do not review that footage without my attorney being present. Well, without his attorney being present. >> That's not how it works. This administrative report for a use of force. It can be foyered. So, your attorney can foyer the information. They can get all the report. >> Okay. >> I don't like y'all viewing it without without having an attorney. >> It's all going to be on camera. >> It's an administrative report on our end. It has nothing to do with legality. It's just an administrative report for a supervisor to review officer Coat's use of force. So we [music] can make sure that everything >> when y'all find out that he did absolutely nothing wrong. What they going to do about that? >> If there's something that needs to be addressed, then it's addressed. >> It'll channel through basically a chain of command. It's how [music] a use report works. I fill it out. It goes to a lieutenant. From lieutenant level, it goes up to the captain. And from there, if it needs to, it gets sent to internal affairs. That's how the process works. But all that information is subject to FOYA. So if you have an attorney, they'll understand exactly what that means. They can file a foyer request and get all that information. Okay. Someone really needs to tell these officers that no matter how friendly they try to sound now, there's nothing they can say or do to fix the situation they created. A taser is there for officers to protect themselves when they feel they're in danger. Not when someone hurts their ego because they didn't realize the officers were talking to them. Period. Any other questions for me? >> I don't. I appreciate you talking with >> Yes, ma'am. What was your name? >> The Mosley. >> Miss Mosley. Okay, Miss Mosley, I appreciate you. I know you're worried about your son. I would be happy. >> Cuz he's a good boy. He's a good boy. And they kill boys like him on the regular. And it just hurts me to my heart cuz [music] he over here seen his baby mom. He worked every day for me and he works here [music] part-time cuz they building me a house over in Taylor and so I hired him so he get to learn a skill and start his own business. Yes, >> I get it. I get that and we and we appreciate that. So, and again I can't I can't speak to everything because I have not reviewed the camera yet. Right. >> Ms. Mosley followed through on exactly what she promised that day. She went on to file a lawsuit over how her son was treated. Whether officer Coats or Sergeant Hall faced any internal consequences beyond [music] the standard use of force review isn't known at this point. But if you believe in karma, that might change soon. And speaking of [music] karma, let's talk about another officer who got what he deserved after claiming he owned an entire public road. A visit to a local correctional facility should have [music] been simple. Park near the gate, film the building from a public road, and move on. Instead, one visitor found himself in a standoff between [music] two very different stories. His own account of a peaceful stand for his right to film and a facility convinced a stranger with a camera at their gate was reason enough for a major response. >> What's going on, man? >> Good. Visitors uh still have visitor hours this time of day. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's why you're recording me. >> I'm not really recording you. I'm recording. >> Why are you recording the facility? >> There's no You can't really record the facility at all. Well, I know I can record in public areas property, >> but still any public areas, a public foyer, the public lobby, things like that. I'm allowed to. >> No, we don't have that at all. >> Well, that's a policy. Now, your policy doesn't trump my First Amendment right to go in and film a public building >> to film a public building. >> So, you have no reason to really come on the property. >> I have absolutely a ton of reasons to come onto the property. >> Sounds like All right, hold on. Stand over here. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no problem. And again, I'm not here to cause any problems. >> Do I need ID? >> Yes, you need ID to come on the property. >> Do you? Okay. >> Yes. >> And is that also a policy? >> Yes. >> Okay. See, now I don't have to follow your policy, though. >> You're telling me you don't have to follow the correction facility policy? >> You have to follow their policy. Oh, good. You turn your camera off. >> Yeah, that's Yeah, >> good. You have to follow their policy. Not me. I don't work for the the correction, you know, center. You do. I'm a private public citizen looking at a building that we pay for >> and I want to go down and take some videos of it from the outside. >> That's not allowed, sir. >> And your name? >> Officer Sally. >> Founding era skepticism of unchecked authority is quite a framework to open with. Though it does set up exactly what this argument kept circling back to, whether a badge and a gate somehow outreach a citizen's right to record in public. It looks like someone forgot the oath they took at the start of their career to protect citizens constitutional rights. So, what exactly is the problem here? >> You guys have a badge number or anything? >> Yeah, I have a badge. You have an ID for me? >> What's your badge number? >> 036. >> Sweet. Thanks, man. >> Can I have your name? >> Um, my name is Good Citizen. >> Mhm. >> And I feel I have every right to really go down there. So, I can go down to FID is what you're saying. Well, you have a your reason no reason to come on the property right now. >> I just gave you three reasons why I'm coming on the property. >> No, you have no reason. It's a private not allowed to walk in as you want. >> See that? >> Okay. >> I'm the press. >> Mhm. >> I have every right to go onto that building [music] and go into public areas. >> Captain Bird. >> Hey, buddy. >> Officer, this gets on. >> Yeah, that's what I said. I said it's on. Not a whole heck of a lot. Just uh >> what we do for you? >> Telling him I just want to go take a look up the building I pay for. Oh, no. You can't can't get up there. >> Really? >> Why is that? No, >> cuz you're not permitted. You can't walk on property. >> Who who does not permit the people who pay for it not to go on there? >> So, you're not permitted on the property, sir. I'm just advising you that. Did you drive up here? Did you walk up here? >> I don't answer questions. Really? It doesn't matter. >> Well, I'm going to ask you to leave the facility right now. >> This is a public road. This is not your road. >> All right. If you fail to leave the facility, I'm going to contact. >> Please. Oh my god. Please call him right now. >> Okay. >> Call right now. >> I'm going to ask you to leave, sir. >> You don't have to ask me. This is a public road. If I went past that guard shack, then maybe maybe but you're still wrong. >> Somewhere in here, the guard tried drawing a line between his own policy and something called community policy without ever explaining who actually writes either one. And [music] of course, because he had given his badge number, he suddenly thought that meant the citizen had to identify himself, too. Well, not exactly. >> So, I'm going to ask the property. >> I'm asking you to exit the property. This is my property. >> Okay. >> 504. >> Thank you. Thank you. This is a public road. >> Can you dispatch lower province be the main gate? >> Thank you. They'll they'll actually teach you exactly all about the first amendment, what we're right not to do and what not to do. >> Right. >> And again, I'm not here to cause any problems. I want I've been living in the area for a long time. >> Great. Great. >> And I wanted to always come see the facility. >> Right. So, you can talk to our um >> public relations, >> right, >> captain, and they can maybe arrange something for you, but you can't. I would hope they would arrange something for >> own free will and walk around the property and I've asked you to leave. >> Oh, so you don't have any right to tell me to leave. This is a public road. What gives you the right to tell me to leave a public road? Just answer me that. Seriously, >> I've asked you several times. >> Answer the question. What gives you the right to tell me to leave a public road? >> Okay. So, this is not a public road, sir. >> Being told that paying for a public building still doesn't earn you the right to walk near it is a genuinely strange [music] thing for a public employee to say on camera. The guard asked whether he had driven up or walked up, got silence back, and used that silence as a reason to order him off the road. As if refusing a random question forfeits a right to stand on public pavement. >> This is not a public road. >> It's not. >> So shipping and receiving doesn't come through here. People that come visit don't come through here. >> Not going to get in. >> Okay. Cuz I'm making too much sense. I understand matter with you. I understand. >> I'm asking you to leave. You're refusing to leave. >> I'm not refusing to leave. >> Sure you are. I asked you to leave. No, I I I've asked you how can you have the authority to tell me to leave. >> How do you have the authority to tell? I've asked you to leave. >> Okay. >> You haven't left, >> right? >> So, I'm going to call the police. >> Well, they're on their way. >> Oh, good. Then maybe they'll tell you that you're 100% wrong. >> Okay. All right. >> Now, I said [music] again, if I went onto your property, see that line right there? >> They're on our property as soon as you came up our driveway, sir. >> That's not your driveway. Stream light. You know, Streamlight. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> As soon as you enter our drive, >> do they use that road also? >> Do they use that road also? >> All right. Do they use that road also? Yes, they do. This is not your No, you're creating the problem. >> Okay, >> I'm here peacefully >> wanting to come look at my >> stand over there. >> Even the visitor's own concession here is worth noticing. He admitted that past the actual guard shack, things might be different, which suggests he understood the property line better than he led on elsewhere. Instead [music] of engaging with that nuance, the guard just repeated that this was his property. Dispatch got called and a disagreement about pavement suddenly needed backup. >> Whereabouts? >> Peacefully stand in front of that building right there. No problems for real. >> No, I'm going to stand on this public road. That over there may be your property. Okay. >> This is all our property. >> Well, again, >> so I'm asking you to pay for >> if you can explain to me how a public road is your property, >> right? >> But then again, it's really my property because I pay for your badge, your little uniform, your bad attitude, >> your lies and threats. Okay. >> Okay. I pay for all that. >> Sure. This is a public road. >> Okay. >> So, I'm gonna ask you again to leave, sir. >> Well, I'm gonna ask you again. I will go over here and wait for the police. Okay. >> You're gonna wait for the police over there like I asked you to. >> And And why over there, though? >> Because I told you that's where I want you. Right there. You're in the flow of our property, sir. >> I I am not in the flow. I am peing. You're the one in the road. You're the one in the public road. I'm off to the side, sir. So, I'm going to ask you go ahead and wait over there. >> I'm going to go wait over there for the police. Okay. >> All right. And then when they tell you that I have every right to be here, >> standing peacefully in front of a building is usually the safest possible way to disagree with someone. And the visitor made a point of saying exactly that while the argument over property lines kept circling. He also said that his taxes cover the guard's badge, uniform, [music] and apparently his attitude, too. Funny, even though it does nothing to actually settle who owns the road. >> Then I'm going to go on that property. >> Oh, you're not going to enter the property. >> Oh, is that right? What are you a tough guy? >> Kids. >> Oh, you a tyrant bully? No, I'm telling you what you're not. >> Why do you have to be this way, though? That's all I'm asking. >> I'm telling you what you're doing. >> I'm up here freely, calmly. >> Yep. >> Asking some questions. >> And I'm asking you to leave. >> But why do you have to be this way, though? >> Right. You know, taking your choice not to leave, sir. >> Well, because I don't have to. It's a public road. >> Okay. >> Now, this is the 911 center. Okay. All right. >> Yes. You're correct. >> See that? See that water tower right there? Right behind you. See that water tower? You own that, too? Right. So, >> do you own that, too? >> I don't own any of this. >> Well, right, because this is this is all public this is all public land. >> You know what I mean? >> Okay. >> So, again, I'm not up here to cause any problems. >> I'm just really just wanting to film multiple >> times. All right. >> Are here. >> I I will. >> Oh, good. Thank you. >> Micromanaging exactly where someone stands while waiting for police is a strange hill to argue over. Yet, that's what happened next, down to the specific spot on the shoulder. I didn't even realize America was such a safe country, considering this seems to be the biggest concern these officers have during their shift. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Hey, buddy. What's going on? >> I'm just coming to film a public building and they they're they're saying I have to leave a public road. Isn't this this is a public road, isn't it? >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Excuse me. I'm talking to him. >> No, I'm going to speak to him first. That's fine. >> I'll speak to you. this individual multiple times to exit the property. He's trying to access the property. He's trying to videotape the property. He's not permitted to do so. I've asked him to leave. He's refusing to leave. >> Okay. Well, here's the deal. >> Is this a public road though? >> It is, but they're the ones who control entrance into the property. So, if they >> absolutely Doesn't Streamlight also come onto this road for the business and stuff? >> No, this is not Streamlight. >> No, I know this is not Streamlight, but this is a public road then, right? So streamlight and people coming to visit prisoners and things don't are not allowed on this road because it's not >> if they tell you you cannot be here then you cannot be here. >> Asking who someone works for is a fair question when the answer determines whether they get waved into a secure [music] facility and working for yourself as an independent journalist is a perfectly legitimate response to it. [music] What followed made sense, too. Filming past the actual gates of a facility holding inmates requires clearance and supervisor signoff, which isn't tyranny. It's just how correctional security typically works. >> I I understand what you're saying, and I have no problem with leaving if I need to. You know what I mean? >> Well, they've asked you to leave. So, why haven't you left? >> Because you see this, I'm here for a story. So, >> okay, that's fine. >> Okay. So, I don't think I really need to have to be bullied to be a story. You just did. He just did. >> I'm not bullying you. >> You just threatened me. I threatened you. You did. >> What did I say to threaten you? >> By saying I have to leave or >> that is not a threat. I didn't say or >> in your mind. >> I didn't say or. >> I said you have to leave. It's that simple. There is no or about. >> But again, let's just go straight and we won't have any problems. Okay. So again, I'm here for a story. >> Okay. Well, if they tell you you're not allowed to film, you're not allowed enter the facility, then you got to go. >> I am allowed in public areas of that building, public lobbies, public parking lots, public thing. I'm allowed to be there. Not with the camera. Was that permission? >> Absolutely. You can't. >> No, you're not. >> You You guys I understand what you're saying. I really do. >> What department? Who do you work for, sir? >> I work for myself. I'm a private journalist. Okay. >> Okay. Independent journalist. >> And we didn't give permission for you to enter the facility. >> Again, this is my facility. >> No, it's requires clearances and approval by supervisors. I understand that once you get into the building. Sure. >> Before you get in the building, once you go past those gates, >> you know, I I'm not here to argue. I'm here for a story. >> Okay. And if I need to call the PIO in the morning and and set up an appointment to come in and get it to information and public information office PIO, I'm sorry. >> Once an actual captain introduced himself by name, Dan, the entire temperature of this stop dropped almost instantly. [music] Proof that a title and a name go a long way toward deescalating something that shouting never once solved. The two of them landed on the obvious fix. Call ahead. Get proper clearance through the warden's office. And the visitor even admitted arguing about it on the spot was fruitless. >> I am public information officer. >> Good. And your name? >> Captain. >> I'm Dan. How you doing? >> Good to meet you. >> Good. Thank you. Yeah. No problem. >> If you want to call me and get permission from my warden and we'll set it up and you can do it properly that way. >> That's you're not permitted. >> I I I don't want to argue about it. That's fine. You know what I mean? It It's fruitless to argue against >> the website and get my phone number. >> That's fine. Is it on there? >> Mhm. >> Okay, Mr. Moyer. Okay. That's fine. And and and again, it's it's no big deal, but I would figure that I would have every right as a as a citizen who pays for this property to at least get into the public areas, though. You know what I mean? Would you agree with that without a camera? >> Why does a camera scare people so much? You guys have cameras. >> You know what I mean? Do you >> have ID on you, sir? >> I I I don't Do I need ID? >> You can't enter the facility without >> I'm not trying to enter the facility without it. >> Go through the gate. >> No, I did not try to go through the gate. It's all on tape. I stood right there purposely talking to this gentleman and this gentleman. Okay. And I explained to them exactly what I was doing. >> You say he's going to call the police. Um, why do I need to give ID? Am I under arrest or being detained? >> Cuz I have to write a report. >> Am I under arrest or being detained? >> Technically, yes. This is an investigator detection because we were called here for an incident. >> What is your reasonable articulate suspicion for this suspension? >> I'm not defiant trespass. Yes, you are. This is their property and they told you to leave and you haven't left. I am leaving. That's defiant trespass. >> You guys pulled up. Why do cameras only become a problem the moment ownership shifts to someone without a badge? It seems these officers still don't understand that if they ask someone to do something and [music] that person refuses, it does not automatically mean they're resisting. Jesus, how did some people even get jobs as police officers when they're this dumb? >> Okay, I >> So, we're investigating that crime. That's a crime. Give me your ID. >> That's how it works. I've told you why you're being detained. You are being detained. But am I being my trespass from this public street? >> Absolutely. Define trespass. They've told you to leave. You haven't left. >> It's not that I'm not leaving. I just wanted some explanation. I'm here for a story. Then then fine, then let me leave >> after I have your ID >> again. That's that's really not the way it works. That way state this is not a stop an ID state. I've done nothing illegal. >> You're under you're in an investigatory detention. >> Break the law. You're being detained for an incident. No, you're not. If we're called somewhere by somebody who's given their name >> service. Thank you. He knows me. Listen to me. Okay. >> I stop. Last warning, >> please. >> Either you leave or you get locked. >> No problem leaving. >> One and only warning. Your choice. What are you doing? >> All right, guys. Have a nice day. Yes. >> If you thought this was outrageous, brace yourself because the next video takes it to a whole new level. 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