I don't want to talk to you anymore. Okay. Call me a pedo. Disgusting. You have Get Get out of here. Freaking disgusting. What's your end goal here being here? Do you want me to stay or leave? You want me >> We'd like to identify you. >> So you So your whole purpose of stopping here is just to ID me. It's not to get me to leave the property in general. So I don't understand how that helps your basis of of trespassing. >> now we need to ID you before anything happens. >> Okay, well at this time I'd like to remain silent. >> In this video, three cops detained this man in his RV because someone called it suspicious. Yet when he repeatedly asked what crime they suspected him of committing, they couldn't give him a clear answer. They shifted from a suspicious person call to private property and trespassing while still insisting they needed his ID before he could leave. He stayed calm, refused to be intimidated, and kept forcing the officers to explain the legal basis for the detention. Watch how he completely turned the encounter into a battle over their authority and how the officers struggled to justify keeping him there. >> You're asking for my ID. Is it because I'm on private property or is it because I'm suspicious? >> Because we're called here for a suspicious person. That's why that we're here. >> Okay, then I don't wish to identify myself. >> Well, then we're going to have to talk about that. >> Okay, let's talk about it. Do you not want to talk about it anymore? >> No, we're going to We're not going anywhere. >> Oh, okay. Am I free to go? Am I being detained? >> No, you're detained right now. >> What crime do you suspect What What crime are you detaining me for? >> You're not Like I said, we're right now just looking at your We We call this is called in as suspicious person as someone sleeping in their car. >> Is that a Is that a misdemeanor or a felony being suspicious? Is that a misdemeanor or felony being suspicious? And I'm trying to figure out why I'm being detained. >> All right. >> Why am I being detained? >> You are. We're trying to figure out who you are and what you're doing here. That's it. >> What crime do you suspect me of committing? >> All right. We didn't say there's any crime right now. >> So what am I being detained for? >> Because right now we're It was called in as suspicious person. >> What crime do you me of committing to be detaining me right now? >> Right now you're parked on private property. >> I can't leave because you're detaining me though. What crime do you suspect me of committing to be detaining me right now? >> Sir, can I can I explain sir? >> Is there who who's the leader right here? >> May I explain? >> Who's the leader right here? Are you in charge? >> I'm not in charge no. >> Who's in charge? Are you in charge sir? >> No no our sergeant is occupied right now. Can I explain what's going on? >> Don't touch me no. No I won't if >> Can I just explain? >> No. You had a question. What am I being detained for? >> Yeah I'm going to I'm going to answer it for you pal. >> Okay. >> Okay? So can I explain? >> I'm asking what crime not asking for an explanation. I'm asking what crime do you suspect me of committing that I'm being detained for right now. >> Well technically it's trespassing because this is private property. >> So he can explain to you. >> So but I have to I have to refuse to leave though. >> No no no no no not true. So >> Everybody wants to give like half a cent. >> No I'm trying to explain. >> you said you you said you you said your supervisor's coming correct? >> No he's not coming. You asked if I was in charge and I said no. >> Okay. So who's running the show right now cuz everybody's giving me like half of two cents. >> There's three police on scene. Three police are in charge. >> And what crime do you are you detaining me for currently? >> answered. >> Trespassing? >> Trespassing. We need to ID you. We're not trying to charge you with a crime. >> You have to have a trespass warning first. You have to give me you have to give me permission to leave. You can't just give me a ticket for trespassing. >> trying to give you a ticket. >> Then what ID what do you need ID for? >> You're detained because of that. I'm not trying to give you a ticket for anything. You understand that? >> I do understand that cuz if it's >> why we're out here if I could explain. The whole reason why we're out here is No no. You're in an RV parked across from an elementary school. >> Correct. >> That's the reason why we're here because you could probably agree with us that it is suspicious to wait in an RV the entire day across from an elementary school. Wouldn't you agree? >> No. >> Okay. Well in the eyes of the law that is suspicious and you are >> Really? In the eyes of the law that's suspicious? Where in the law does it say that a RV across from the school's suspicious? >> It doesn't have to say it anywhere. >> Okay, that's very ambiguous. I understand if you want to come out and make contact with me, cool. But to have three police officers say, "No, you're detained." after you make contact me with me and I'm willing to leave, that's unacceptable to me. So, that's why I'm just not willing to deal with y'all right now. I feel like this. If if you're >> trying to explain it to you. >> Well, I mean what's your end goal here being here? Do you want me to stay or leave? >> We'd like We'd like to identify you. >> So, you So, your whole purpose of stopping here is just to ID me. It's not to get me to leave the property in general. So, I don't understand how that helps your basis of of trespassing. >> ultimately it would would be best if you left, but right now we need to ID you before anything happens. >> Okay, well at this time I'd like to remain silent. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I'm just here because I'm a school officer and the school called. That's all. >> Okay, I apologize. I don't know if you were working all day, but no one came by to make contact with me earlier. Okay, yeah. Um to my point, there's no no trespassing signs in front. >> My experience, we've had people over here and I'm not even accusing this. I've had guys taking pictures of kids. We've had friendly I'm not I'm not even going to accuse >> I don't even want to Okay, I don't want to talk to you anymore. Okay. Call me a pedo. >> No, no, I didn't. >> Disgusting. You have Get Get out of here. Freaking disgusting. Have a gun on your hip? I don't consider you a murderer. Ridiculous. Wow. I don't wish to answer any questions. >> Well, Is this thing registered? >> I don't wish to answer any questions. >> So, this isn't registered. That plate's not coming back to anything right now. That's a problem. >> Am I still being detained? >> Yeah. >> Can I request the sergeant come out? >> He's a little bit busy right now, but we're just trying to >> So, am I not able to request a sergeant? >> Sure, but he's busy right >> Okay, I would like to request a sergeant then, please. >> Well, we still got to figure this out. >> Man. Okay. Can I still Is that going to hinder for me requesting a >> No, we can have a supervisor. He's just going to be a little bit >> Okay, before he's requested or before he comes out? >> Before he comes out. >> Okay, that's fine. Can we go ahead and request him then? Or do you not want to do that? Cuz now you're just walking away when I'm asking for a supervisor to come out. Y'all want to act like, "Oh, I'm just having a conversation with you." when it comes time to me asking something specific, y'all want to walk off and do whatever. >> Are you curious where our sergeant is right now? >> No, I'm I'm curious why I cannot ask for a sergeant to come out. >> You could. He's on a medical call, which takes priority over your request. >> It takes up my request, my rights. I'm just asking to Y'all are crazy. Okay, so >> ask and we could say no. >> Okay, then say no. He's saying yes, but then walking away. >> Yeah, well, he he's on >> So, that's my response. It's like, "How are you going to say yes and walk away?" and then you get all defensive. He's on a medical call. If he would have said that, cool, but he didn't say that. >> defensive about anything. >> Yeah, well, y'all are detaining me, so you're very defensive. >> I'm doing my job. >> You're not doing In my opinion, not doing Yeah. >> any opinion you want. At the end of the day, we are doing our job. >> Okay. Well, you're still talking about me about whatever. >> Whatever opinion you want. That's fine. What do you do for a living? Are you in law enforcement? >> I do not wish to answer any questions, and at this time I'm going to remain silent. >> That's fine. This is a sick man. You have somewhere to be? >> Again, I'm I would wish to remain silent at this point. I'm not Okay. >> No, cuz what I'm saying to you is like, we could totally get you on your way if you could just provide us your information. You'd be on your way in 2 minutes. >> I don't believe >> That's the only missing piece. >> I don't believe I've committed any crime to be warranting me to ID myself. I feel like criminals have to ID themselves. I'm I haven't done anything wrong. >> Sure. If you have nothing to hide, then there's nothing wrong with you providing your information. >> If you don't have any law to state that I have to provide ID, then you have no right to ID me. >> explained it to you. >> I disagree with you, so we're waiting for a sergeant to come, I guess, after his medical call. >> We're not obligated to have a sergeant respond here at all. >> Okay, and I'm not obligated to answer any of your questions. >> Okay, but so nevertheless, you still are detained. >> Okay. >> And then we'll just be detained for >> what? The rest of the day? >> I don't know. That determines on you. You're running the show right now, not me. >> It doesn't determine any determines me? >> Yes, because you're because you're detaining me. I'm not detaining myself. I would like to leave at this point. You're saying I'm detained, so that's on you. So, you're running the show, not me. >> Yes. And it could this entire thing you'd be on your way in a couple minutes if you just provided your information, but you're refusing to do that. So, that's why we're here at a standstill. >> Okay. >> So, we'll just remain at a standstill. >> Okay. >> George, right? All right. You're on body camera as well, okay? >> Okay. >> All right. So, is there any way I can see your license and then you'll be moved on your way? That's it. If you if you're we already know what the registration is on the vehicle and all that stuff. >> Again, I don't wish to answer any of your questions and I wish to remain silent at this point. >> Okay. But listen, right now you're on township property. That that's what we're talking about. And we're just asking just for your driver's license. That's it. We identified who owns the vehicle and you said it was you, correct? >> You're Matthew Kribo? >> We just want this done so that we can get out of your hair here. That's all that we're looking to do here. We're not looking to violate any rights or anything like that. You can like I said, we're on recording as well. We all have our body cameras on and our MVRs on right now. All right? That's all we need to know and then we're going to get out of your hair. That's all that we need. >> Confirmed it with the DL picture. >> Did you? >> Mhm. >> All right, so I don't really know what the big deal is here, but you can go. >> So I'm I'm no longer being detained? >> No, we finally identified >> Excellent, thank you very much. >> The biggest problem here was the officer's failure to clearly establish the legal basis for the detention. A report that an RV is suspicious, especially simply because it is parked near an elementary school, does not by itself establish a crime or automatically create reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The officers also shifted their explanation to trespassing and private property, but the conversation never produced a clear explanation of what specific criminal conduct justified holding him there and demanding identification. The man repeatedly asked whether he was free to leave and what crime he was suspected of committing while making it clear that he did not consent to answering questions or providing identification. The officers continued holding him and tying his release to identification, even after acknowledging that they were not trying to charge him with a crime. Under the Fourth Amendment, an investigative detention generally requires reasonable suspicion based on specific articulable facts connecting the person to criminal activity, not merely a vague suspicion. In the end, the officers obtained his identification, confirmed who he was, and released him. But the encounter shows why officers need to establish the legal basis for a detention before turning a voluntary investigation into a forced stop.