Everything was fine until you started asking stupid questions. What's in your pockets? >> That's my job. >> What's your What's in your wife's pockets? What's in your kids' pockets? Where do you live? >> Huh? What's your address? >> Don't you want to know mine? >> No, I do not. >> Yeah, you do. That's why you want ID. Excuse me, sir. Are you searching me? Are you searching my pockets? >> I just want TO MAKE SURE. >> OH, SEARCHING MY POCKETS. Searching my pockets. >> Searching. I'm going to look down now so that I can't be considered spitting. >> In this encounter, this man was simply walking home when cops stopped him, demanded his name, handcuffed him, and searched his pockets over a call claiming he was trespassing and carrying a bow and arrow. The problem? The alleged bow and arrow turned out to be a BB gun and some feathers, and there was no clear crime established before the detention and search escalated. He repeatedly challenged the officer's legal basis while refusing to surrender his rights. But things took an even more serious turn when his property became part of the confrontation. Watch how this roadside detention spirals into an arrest, a heated confrontation, and a completely different level of scrutiny for the officers. >> Did I do anything wrong, sir? I have seen no no trespassing signs. I have come to the road so that I can walk to the on the road on pedestrian path back to 20 so I can go home. I know you do, but why? What have I done wrong for you to get my name? Have you seen the internet nowadays? Have you seen how many First Amendment auditors there are that are suing police departments because people demanding IDs without a lawful reason? Has somebody said that I'm trespassing on their property, sir? >> Hey, hey, let me let me just explain to you, okay? just got a call from >> I know you just got a call and every call you go to you don't have to identify the person >> I'm just asking you >> I don't want to be in your in your books I'm not doing I don't mean any harm I'm not doing anything wrong there is nothing harmful going on >> listen to me I need your name you have any warrants >> no sir >> what's your name >> why >> because you are carrying a bow and arrow >> I have Where do you see a bow and arrow sir >> I see don't you >> see feathers you Grab that gun. Get the gun right there. >> Look at my hand. That is a BB gun. >> Those are feathers. >> Now you are detained. Do you understand? >> For what? Am I carrying anything illegal? Is there anything illegal, sir? Is there You're figuring it out, but you don't have an illegal thing yet. >> So you're So you're going to put me in handcuffs and demand my ID and search me with no legal reason. You're not charging me with anything, are you? Am I under arrest, sir? >> You're detained. >> Okay. so that I'll remain silent and revoke my fifth amendment right to remain silent. Sir, >> let me get some gloves. >> Sir, like I said, we're just trying to get some information. >> Yeah, I know. Illegally. >> No, it's not illegal. >> Why? What? What crime are you do you suspect me of committing? >> Just explain to you trespassing. >> Are you charging me with it? >> We're investigating. >> Do you have anybody that has said I've trespassed on their property? We got a 911 call about you. >> Okay. Walking down a sidewalk where it's perfectly legal to walk. >> But they told me what you were uh there was a >> So that they lied to you and told you there was a bow and arrow, which there's obviously not. >> Now that you've seen that there is no bow and arrow or anything illegal, >> like I said, all we need is your name in there. But >> why are you charging me with something? >> You're going in handcuffs. >> Are you charging me with something? Yes, sir. Let me put my phone on this little stand so that I can >> Okay, that's good. >> Make sure that it doesn't get >> here. I'm not going to resist in one. >> I will not resist. I will cooperate to the fullest extent of the law. >> Now that where would you like this so we can see? >> I didn't I did not even ask you to pick it up, did I? >> There you go. >> Didn't even ask you to pick it up. Didn't even ask you to touch my property whatsoever. You were detained right now. Do you understand that? >> Am I under arrest? >> You're detained. >> Am I under arrest? >> Am I under arrest? >> I noticed you don't say no or yes. >> You're not UNDER ARREST. >> OH, I'M NOT under arrest. I'm just being searched. All my property is being searched. >> Guess what? I can smell alcohol. >> No, you can't. Then bring a breathalyzer. >> I don't drink. >> Relax. Relax. >> No, I'm going straight to the department. I'm filing a complaint. I've been illegally handcuffed. >> That's fine. Wow. You're not giving me anything. You're giving me a hard time and this is going straight on the internet. >> I think he's dehydrated. I'm not sure. >> I'm trying to help get you help. Okay. >> Jesus Christ. You can't even walk without being harassed by police officers. You're right. >> Yeah, I know. I'm right. >> You got no legal reason to do this. Excuse me, sir. Are you searching me? Are you searching my pockets? >> I just want TO MAKE SURE. >> OH, SEARCHING MY POCKETS. Searching my pockets. >> Searching. I'm going to look down now so that I can't be considered spitting. Searching me. Searching my pockets. Illegal search and seizure. >> All you got to do is >> you do not have a crime. >> Just in case he did that, >> you do not have a crime. We are trying to investigate this. >> Oh, so you so you detain until you can find a crime. You handcuff, you search before you have a crime. Is that what you do after all the that's on the internet? >> You are so right. >> I know I am. Fourth amendment. First amendment. Fifth amendment. This is ridiculous. You can't even sit down and have a rest. You can't even get yourself together before you walk home without have Oh, we're concerned. So, we're going to handcuff you and search your pockets. What kind of is that? You don't learn from school. That 6 months didn't for you. How long you been on the force, sir? >> Couple days. >> Ah, it sounds right. This would be a complaint and a lawsuit. You searched my pocket. >> I did. Yes. >> Yes, you did. I know you did. But you don't have a crime to to charge me with. >> No crime being charged. >> Would you like me to try to explain anything? >> No crime being charged. >> You can't trespass somebody from a sidewalk or a right of way. >> This is somebody's house. >> Yeah. Right away. Did I'm sorry. Did they come out and say trespass? >> No. >> No, they didn't. >> Oh, no. Damn. >> You're a jam up dude, man. You were just totally awesome to >> Everything was fine until you started asking stupid questions. What's in your pockets? >> That's my job. >> What's your What's in your wife's pockets? What's in your kids' pockets? Where do you live? >> Huh? What's your address? Don't you want to know mine? >> No, I do not. >> Yeah, you do. That's why you want ID. >> Just wanted your name. That's it. >> Why? What does it matter? >> To see if you have >> What's your first and middle name? What's your wife's name? Billy. What's your wife's name? >> Oh my god. I'm trying to >> What's your kid's name? Huh? What's your grandma's name? What's your mom's name? Where do they live? >> So, just just relax. Okay. >> I don't need to relax. I need to be led out of cuffs. I need this illegal search and seizure to end is what I need. >> Hey, >> 10 minutes, right? 10 minutes. >> There's no time limit. >> No, there's not a 10-minute time limit. >> No. Okay, we'll find out in court. Why don't you ask the judge? The judge is looking at you right now saying, "Hey, did why did you tell him there's no time limit?" Why don't you explain to the judge right now why there's no time limit? >> Why you can just keep me out here for hours if you want to? >> With bugs flying all in my face and I can't swat them away. >> Well, you're super aggressive. So, >> I'm not super aggressive. Everything was fine. I explained myself properly, didn't I? I explained everything that was going on when you came up nice and cordial, didn't I? >> Have a knife on you. >> And you didn't take it off. You drug all that away, but you didn't take this away, did you? >> I didn't want you to cut me with it. >> Well, maybe you should have took it off of me. >> But you cuffed me and left it on me, didn't you? Yeah. Real professional there, sir. >> You're handcuffed. I don't have to worry about it. >> Yeah, why not? I can grab it. >> Didn't mean to throw that, sir. I meant to put it there. >> Guess what you just did. I meant to throw it with the other stuff. >> Guess what you just did? >> You You've got my handscuffed, so I was trying to get rid of it. Sir, >> now you're under arrest. [sighs] >> Now, >> well, when we get to court, we'll see how all of this >> You can't throw things. >> Illegal, search. This is fruit of a poisonous tree. >> Illegal. >> All right. >> I was just trying to get rid of it. I apologize, sir. I didn't mean to hit you with that. I was trying to put it with that stuff so that you guys didn't worry about it. Okay. My hands could still reach it even though he said I couldn't. I was trying to prove him wrong. >> You proved me wrong. You were right, sir. >> I was just trying to toss it over there with all that stuff. >> But now you're under arrest. >> Fine, whatever. >> So, >> this is absolutely ridiculous. >> I agree 100%. >> Did Did you feel that I was doing that on purpose, sir? That I was trying to hurt you? >> Simple assault doesn't have to be on purpose. time and all this that you threw it in his direction when he's [clears throat] standing right there. >> I was trying to toss it over there to that property over there. >> I didn't mean toss it and it go up. My hands are tied so I could only do so much. >> Did you have to do it at all? >> Yes. To get it off of me so that you didn't attack me. >> Okay. >> Apparently that was dangerous, but a box knife isn't. So, I was trying to get it rid of me. I in all honesty, I should have threw it that way. But it was not intentional. I was not trying to attack this officer. If I'm arrested, then it'll be shown in court. But all of this is illegal. >> Okay? >> You can't just stop people with no crime and just demand their ID and put them in cuffs if they don't give you the ID. Intimidate them, harass them. I should have been lit. Okay, sir. I'm sorry. No water. Fine. I've got to go all the way walk all the way back home in the sun out of water and I'm thirsty and I just threw up. I told you I just threw up from heat exhaustion. I'm walking through the woods picking up feathers. It's all I'm doing. I have a hatchet with a saw on it so that I can cut down saplings for walking sticks. I have a Bowie knife in case I get entangled in anything. I have a BB gun in case anything raid comes at me. I have a box cutter in case I need to cut any twine or anything. >> Do you have any other medical conditions that we should be around? >> Yes, I have a lot and I'm trying to work on them. That's why I'm exercising out here in the woods. I go on hikes through the woods. I'm trying to lose this gut because I have a hernia. That's what this band is. It's a hernia on my front. >> I just wanted to get your name and give you a ride home's all I wanted to do. >> I don't want to ride home, sir, because >> you could have told me that. But hey, it's okay. >> That was never It was never a question. You immediately wanted to. Noah was in my pockets. >> I don't want to argue with you anymore, sir. >> No crime, just in cuffs. Can we check your bottles out? >> You can check anything you want, sir. >> Okay. >> I have no problem. I'm very thirsty, just so you know. I haven't had water in a little while, and I have been out in the woods. I uh threw up about 10 minutes ago back here in the woods. It was all clear water that I had drunk from that bottle. Um and then in the process, I on myself a little. Uh it's liquid as well. Um I was weary and a little dizzy. Um, I think it's just heat exhaustion. [snorts] >> Yeah. >> Are you going to rem You're being really cool. You'll be cool like this. Take the handcuffs off. >> Yes, sir. >> I would have never not been cool and I've never been a threat to anybody. I would never be a threat. >> I would love to believe you, but we just don't do that. >> I know. I understand. >> That way they can check on you better. You can swap the balls away. No more weapons. Correct. >> Absolutely no more. I don't have any. The major problem here is that the officers moved from a report of possible trespassing and a supposed bow and arrow sighting to demanding identification, handcuffing him, and searching his pockets before establishing a clear criminal offense. A police call by itself does not automatically give officers unlimited authority to detain and search someone. A detention generally requires reasonable suspicion based on specific articulable facts, and a search requires its own lawful justification. The alleged bow and arrow was also quickly contradicted when the officers saw that he was carrying a BB gun and feathers. Instead of simply establishing what crime they reasonably suspected and why, the encounter became increasingly focused on getting his identity and searching his property. The later arrest arose from a separate act when he threw an item while handcuffed, but that does not erase the questions surrounding the initial detention and search. The officers needed a lawful basis for stopping and restraining him in the first place rather than treating the investigation as a license to detain him until they could find something to charge him with. After the arrest, the encounter shifted toward his medical condition. He explained that he had been walking through the woods, had become overheated, had vomited, and was extremely thirsty. The officers checked his blood sugar, blood pressure, and heart rate, discussed his health concerns, and offered to take him to the hospital. He declined because of the cost. While the officers continued monitoring him and eventually removed the handcuffs,