Mr tall how long have you been working at Butler trading almost three years and how much money have you made for their clients over that time approximately $150 million so let me get this straight you made a trade lost money they did nothing but the day they find out that they have to pay a fine they said you're acting alone and they're letting you go to jail exactly and how do you know they signed off on your trade because everyone knows that they sign off on every trade and ultimately who would be responsible for stopping a trade that violated regulations Paul Gilroy so it couldn't possibly be that you knew what you were doing you kept it secret and that all of this is your fault it could be but it isn't well that's interesting because we have somebody who says it is and who the hell is that Mr T's therapist what a therapist can't testify against their own patient she can if we paid for it and he signed a waiver which he did Mr tall your therapist testimony is coming and when it does your ability to cut a deal goes away drop this matter and No One Ever Knows you saw a therapist at [Music] all you went to see a company provide a therapist and you never told me I didn't think it mattered well it godamn does did you tell this woman you did this no because I didn't do this well they're not bringing her in to testify to that I told her that I felt guilty as if the whole thing was my fault I never said it was well you might as well out because that's what it's going to sound like per how could you be so stupid to conf your feelings to a stranger because I needed help and if you're not going to talk about your feelings you might as well not see a therapist at all you better hope they're a therapist in prison because if I can't stop her from testifying that's where you're going to end [Music] up what are you doing here you're coming to my offices tomorrow to testify against my client you didn't tell me I didn't tell you because this is the first time hearing about it I saw saw it you got subpoena to testify against Sam T and until you just burst in here I had no idea he was your client well it doesn't matter because you're not showing up and you're going to stop them from arresting me are you because that's what will happen if I don't then get yourself someone like me and get out of it for your information I have been to three different men like you because I care about Sam and you know better than I do that once he signed that release I have no choice well I have a way to get you out of it and you're going to do it they ask you something that's going to send them to jail you lie I can't do that you can and you will and they'll never no I'll no and even if I didn't I have notes and if they found those I'd be going to jail then destroy them because he's innocent and he trusted you with everything and if that doesn't mean something to you then why the hell should anyone ever trust you with anything hary this isn't about us no one can ever make me do that to you I'm sure Sam tall thought the same thing Dr aard when did Sam tall start seeing you as a patient approximately 6 months ago and why did he start seeing you he said his job involved taking risks and it was causing him stress so he wanted to stop taking risks no he wanted to continue oh I get it he wanted to continue with the risks he just wanted to feel better about it yes and were you able to help him feel better about taking these risks um uh we made progress yes or no yes and after you helped him feel good about taking risks did he reveal that he then lost $50 million on one trade Dr aard you were under oath and if you will not answer I will have a judge compel you to answer yes and how did he say he felt about losing $50 million on one trade he said he felt guilty about it so he came to you to continue taking risks until he finally lost $50 million and then admitted to being guilty that is not what she said I'm sorry he just felt guilty you want to drop this now or do you want us to hand this tape over to the SEC Dr AAR did you want to give the testimony you just gave of course not and why is that because I care about my clients is it possible that you didn't want to give it because it's not true no it's not possible you couldn't possibly have been pressured to give false testimony against your wishes no I couldn't have have you ever been pressured to do something you didn't want to do by a client before let me rephrase isn't it true that you released a client that you cared about from rehab for no reason other than you felt pressure from a different client who was actually paying the bills Dr aard you are under oath and if you will not answer I will have a judge compel you to answer yes and did this person die of an overdose less than 24 hours later yes so if you let yourself be pressured when someone's life is at risk what's to make us think you're not doing the exact same thing right [Music] now you arrogant piece of watch yourself this is my office I don't care what it is how dare you betray me like that I tried to warn you you didn't warn me you asked me to lie for you and I told you I wouldn't I asked you to lie for Sam tll but this isn't about Sam tll and you know it what the hell are you talking about I opened up to you so that we could build trust not so that you could humiliate me I hum humiliated you to help a man you say you care about and our fighting about your mother had nothing to do with that excuse me you walked out of our session because you didn't want to talk about your mother and the second you had the chance to permanently damage our relationship you took it you're insane and you're a self-serving narcissist who will do or say anything to get what he wants I did what I did in there to protect my client and I don't give a if it hurt your feelings or not because you betrayed him just as much as I'm betraying you and you may be the one who's crying about it but he's the one who's been accused of committing a crime if you're lucky someday you're going to realize what's really going on here and when that day comes I hope you find someone to help you because it isn't going to be [Music] me that's