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all right good afternoon this is Daniel
here with Copwatch TV and we're going to
do the live show and we're going to
break down some of the most interesting
and important stories in policing from
the last week or so and you know before
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Network um so if you haven't checked it
out go ahead and check out that we we
talked about a couple of interesting
cases all right so Steve is uh I'm about
two blocks from hell in deep Southwest
Texas all right Steve cinjun ry's from
south Louisiana Charles parner uh like
your channel from Arizona hey Charles
thank you so much uh pnw M says live in
Washington state and the law here for
the criminals are amazing but not for
police you know that's something that
we've seen a lot and uh Dustin's help
channels watching from Columbus Ohio hey
Dustin you know one one of our one of
our friends is uh the Columbus Body cam
Channel we talked to we talked to the
the individual who runs that Channel all
the time so um I don't really know
anything about Columbus Ohio except from
what I learned from that channel so you
have a really good thing there going on
locally all right so the first case that
we're going to talk about you know this
happened in Alam California and listen
this case this incident that we're going
to discussed it actually happened just
about 3 years ago but the reason that
we're talking about it now is because
three police officers were just charged
with involuntary manslaughter so I'm
going to tell you what happened then
kind of some of the politics behind this
and then I'm going to give you my
opinion and you know as I'm going
through with it again if you guys have
thoughts or opinions on whether or not
you think the police officer should be
charged definitely go ahead and uh put
it in the comments and we can go ahead
and discuss so so this incident happened
like I said just about three three years
ago in Alam California and the way this
started was a call for service so you
know police officers weren't just
walking around with to do and you know
they decided to harass someone there was
a call for service so there was a call
for service at a public park where you
know people called in and said hey
there's this guy and he's kind of acting
crazy he's yelling and he's screaming
and he's talking to himself and you know
he's kind of scaring a lot of the just
normal people who are there at that Park
trying to enjoy the day so police
officers so police officers uh are
police officers arrive on scene they
make contact with an individual his name
is Mario Gonzalez he's 26 years old and
he's out of his mind he's not making a
whole lot of sense he's not really
listening to the police officers so
police officers don't just immediately
you know go Hands-On and use force or
anything like that or try to place him
into custody they try to have a
conversation with him and they
essentially deescalate you know try to
use some Crisis Intervention because
it's obvious that there's something
that's going on with him and they do
this for about 10 minutes or so between
9 and 10 minutes and during this time
they they find that he has some alcohol
and they get some information that it
looks like he was also the the suspect
in a shoplifting so now police officers
that after about 10 minutes or so they
make the determination that they're
going to go ahead and detain Mario
Gonzalez you know they basically tell
him to put his hands behind his back and
you know all of the things you'd expect
police officers to do and they don't use
Force right away essentially you know
even at one point they get one handcuff
on Mario or I'm sorry one police officer
is holding his right arm the other
police officer is holding his left arm
and he's struggling with the police
officers it's even at that point that
police officers they don't use Force
they don't take him to the ground even
at that point they pretty much say like
please you know and there it's the way
that the officer is talking to Mario
it's almost like he's like pleading with
Mario he's saying please stop resisting
arrest please let us do this like like
the the he basically from the body
camera footage he kind of goes overboard
in being nice uh to Mario during this
time when trying to convince him to put
him in the handcuffs well at some point
during this Mario really starts to
resist he starts to pull away from the
police officers and you know Mario he
weighs somewhere around 300 lb so it's
it's hard to tell from the body camera
video but either Mario starts to go down
to the ground and drags the cops with
him or the police officers you know drag
him down to the ground but either way
Mario and three police officers end up
on the ground they're trying to get him
in the handcuffs they're fighting get
him in the handcuffs and um while
they're getting him in the handcuffs
they finally do one of the police
officers does have there is some
pressure on Mario's back because again
three police officers are trying to get
him into custody and one of the things
that Mario did in order to make it
difficult for the police officers to get
him into custody is once he was on the
ground he put his arms underneath his
body and you know it's one of those
things where it's almost like if I
wasn't in a situation like this that I
probably wouldn't believe how difficult
it is but I'm going to tell you a story
from when I was I had about three years
on I think this was about 2008 and I had
a drunk driver who was drunk out of his
mind and he didn't want to go to jail
and you know he was kind of around
Mario's build that's what this reminds
me of so this guy was about 5 six 57 so
not a tall guy but he weighed well over
300 lb so this guy weighed like 320 lbs
just like a like a big bowling ball and
you know during the during um trying to
get this guy under arrest he resisted
arrest and he went down to the ground
and he went down to the ground and as
he's on the ground he did this thing
where he put his hands underneath his
body now at the time I was a young cop I
was probably 25 years old you know I I
weighed probably 170 lbs and the two
officers who me also were about 170 lb
so it was difficult for us to try to get
him in Austy at one point you had two of
us trying to get his arm underneath his
body but when you're that big that heavy
and when all you're doing is putting
your arms underneath and underneath your
body and just holding tight to not allow
police officers in order to get them
like it's really difficult to do now you
should now you should be think well like
two young men should be able to do it
easily it's not it's far easier to keep
your hands underneath if that's all
you're trying to do then you're trying
to pull them out without like injuring
the person so it was a difficult thing
to do so I understand what these police
officers were dealing with cuz I've been
in that exact uh situation so the police
officers while they are trying to get
Mario's hands from out from under his
body they do have to put some pressure
on his back that's just the the one of
the things that this goes well you know
after after a couple minutes of this
they end up getting Mario into custody
but you know he stops making noises he
stops making noises he stops and it
looks like he stops breathing and almost
immediately one of the police officers
says you know it doesn't look like he's
breathing anymore like I mean literally
immediately they call for Rescue and
they start CPR so a police officer
started light life-saving U measures
immediately However unfortunately Mario
does die um he does die after he died
there was an autopsy that that was
conducted so the autopsy basically found
that there were four different factors
in Mario's death so the four different
factors that were listed in the autopsy
were one was uh the ingestion of
methamphetamine two is morbid obes
three is alcoholism and four is
restraint by police so those were the
four different factors and the medical
examiner the coron who who did this
investigation went on to specifically
say and I'm going to quote the main
factor in death was the methamphetamine
in his system so again that's that's an
independent autopsy um you know by by
the coroner who did that who you know
doesn't isn't there's no siding with
police or with Mario's Family like
that's that's what the coroner found so
because of that the district attorney
looked at that case and you know after
approximately a year or so cuz you know
when a when someone dies in police
custody it should be taken seriously it
should be investigated and you know if
the police officers committed a crime
then police officers should be charged
so but the district attorney did an
investigation not only did the district
attorney do an investigation the
district attorney did an investigation
the Sheriff's Office didn't which is
separate from the police department the
Sheriff's Office did did an
investigation and then the the the the
mayor of the city what the mayor of
Alama did is basically hire two outside
investigators they hired two outside
investigators who were former um
administrators with the city of San
Francisco again not necessarily it's not
like they're hiring people from like
South Texas or anything like that like
they hire two former like City attorneys
from San Francisco to also do an
independent investigation and then they
also got a new chief of police so from
the time that this happened until you
know a year later there was a brand new
chief of police who was hired from
outside who doesn't know any of these
people all four of those investigations
um concluded the same thing that you
know the police officers did not violate
the law and and the the district
attorney that's really the one that
matters the district attorney said that
the police officers that the use of
force from police officers was
objectively reasonable and the force
that they utilize was necessary this is
in a public report so that happens that
district attorney um is voted out and in
November of 22 uh Alama County gets a
new district attorney her name is Pamela
price and she's an activist one of the
things she ran on for her her platform
is that she wants to hold police
officers accountable for when people die
in police custody or for when people are
killed by police officers and they're
not armed with a gun she basically
started this you know quote unquote
anti-corruption unit you know whenever I
hear these things like the
anti-corruption unit or the anti- police
corruption unit it's kind of like the
Patriot Act or things like that it's
like it's like whatever the name is it
actually does like the exact opposite so
they so they started this this unit to
look at other uh other other um uh uh
police cases I mean it's basically like
the it's basically like you know the the
feelings police coming to a department
near you so what what ended up happening
is um uh you know recently uh they
Pamela price and her anti you know
police unit they wrapped up their
investigation and big surprise she
decides that she's going to charge the
police officers now I left out one big
part that's really important one of the
things that happened is less than a year
after being in office Pamela price was
doing such a terrible job that um that
there was a recall so I think they got
120,000 signatures in order to recall
her I think after you know went through
the the county record office there was
the and about 880,000 of them um ended
up being like you know the the correct
signatures um you know in order that met
the standard so so essentially Pamela
price is now facing a recall election so
so this happened in November so November
of 23 you know she she basically finds
out she's facing this recall election
and then a couple months later she
basically you know does the one thing in
order to in my opinion to save her
political career there's one thing that
her anti- police base is just going to
salivate over and really just support
her on and it's charging cops and that's
exactly what she did she went ahead and
charged three police officers with
involuntary manslaughter now my opinion
on that is I think that's nonsense it
doesn't make any sense I think the most
that each cop is facing is four years
but again this went through four
different investigations it went through
an investigation from an an independent
investigation where former city
attorneys from San Francisco looked at
it said the cops didn't violate the law
the Sheriff's Office who isn't this
police department they investigated
found they didn't violate the law the
district attorney investigated it and
find that that that they didn't VI
violate the law either now all of a
sudden Pamela price comes in she's under
on the political hot seat and she
basically again she ran on Prosecuting
cops so what a shock now she's
Prosecuting cops I don't think it makes
a whole lot of sense um I don't think
the police officers are going to get
convicted not just based on the facts of
what happened because clearly the facts
of what happened is that there were four
different factors in his death and the
main factor was his ingestion of meth so
again if you look at what the police
officers did none of it was excessive
again they deescalate the situation with
him for about 9 Minutes even when they
tried to get his hands behind his back
they stand there one officer has one arm
another officer has the other arm he
starts to resist they do not take him to
the ground right away they still go
another minute or two of trying to
convince him to put his hands behind his
back and it isn't until he just starts
thrashing and falls to the ground that
they end up on the ground so again I
know we can look at a lot of times so
what they're trying to do is compare
this to the George Floyd case and this
isn't that like this isn't the this
isn't the George Floyd case even if
there were issues with that case which
we've talked about a lot on this show
but again this is not that and again as
soon as the officers see that he isn't
breathing they immediately go go into
CPR like it is it is quick so I don't
think they're going to get convicted on
the facts also you have to think well
you know so a district attorney and a a
coroner already said that you know the
police officers essentially you know
weren't the main cause of death so you
know uh if I were the defense attorney
for these officers you know you're going
to want to call those people and know
okay hey you were the prior district
attorney why did you think that this was
this was not against the law hey you are
you are a former very liberal you are a
former very liberal City attorney for
the City of Santa Fe asked to do an
independent investigation and you found
the police officers didn't violate the
law so they're going to go down all of
those rabbit so so we'll see if there's
even going to be probable cause to to go
forward um but my guess is the police
officers um are not going to be uh
convicted in this case cjun Randy said
let the jury decide I agree yeah no we
should let the jury decide but again if
people shouldn't be um um charged in the
first place and if it's political then
let the jury decide that's a little
silly um but um yeah I don't think they
should be charged real curious to see
what anybody else says all right let's
see what we got here Steve says city of
Uvalde hired and paid a blue line gang
member $100,000 for him to laugh in
parents' faces I I I don't I don't agree
uh let's see um any other comments on
this I don't think we have any other
comments on this case um uh let's see
Dustin says 40 people here smash the
like button love all the the the police
patches in the background thank you very
much you know I'm going I'm just going
to say we have had a couple people
recently who um have seen these videos
and have reached out to us and uh said
that they were going to um said that
they were going to um uh send us send us
some patches so um for the people who do
uh thank you very much um curos says
incredible waste of taxpayer money okay
curos thank you so much it is a waste of
taxpayer money and and you listen here
here's what I want to say is that if
you're a police offic so it let me start
by saying this it's really difficult to
retain and recruit police officers I
know that because there are different
cities in California that are literally
hiring literally offering hiring bonuses
for po people to join the police
department for 25 30 $40,000 I saw one
police department in California I can't
remember which one they're offering a
$75,000 hiring bonus just to like start
with that Police Department I think you
have to work there for a year until you
get the entire $775,000 and still they
cannot recruit and retain enough people
so a place like Alam if you're a police
officer why would you go work in a place
like Alam California like it doesn't
make any sense if you're a current
police officer in the city of Alama why
would you stay there it doesn't make any
sense why wouldn't you lateral or go
anywhere else and the thing is and I
said this before if you make policing
something the environment so terrible
that no reasonable person wants to do
the job then no reasonable people will
do the job and then what do you get you
get people who you know should be cosos
or should be security guards and those
are your police officers and again if
your if your complaint is that the
police aren't good or the police aren't
doing a good job if that's your main
complaint it seems strange to help
create and Foster environment where
you're only going to create more of that
so to me it seems intentional it seems
intentional like like maybe you're Ben
Crump or maybe you're in that camp where
you know if police officers the more
that police officers make mistakes the
more they mess up the Richer I get so
I'm going to try to create a situation
where the cops who are left are just
terrible and they're overwhelmed and
that seems pretty Evil all right I don't
think we have any other comments on that
case but again this is one that I'm
going to be following obviously because
um I do not think that these police
officers should be charged all right the
next case I'm going to talk about is my
home state of New Mexico and listen I I
I know I talk about New Mexico a lot but
I just retired as a police officer here
in the state and you know there's
something that I've realized over the
last couple years that New Mexico really
is like the Florida of the Southwest
because crazy happens here so we
have this case out of SIA County now ca
County you know kind of isn't too far
from from Albuquerque um you know it's
maybe an hour or so outside of
Albuquerque a lot of ca County um and
you know because it's a kind of a rural
area um the the judges in this area in
the cour houses often I think this is
true for all around the country you know
in like smaller areas not every single
not every single county has their own
courthouse so in ca County um the the
the courts and the judges basically they
oversee three different counties um so
that that's that's just one of those
things that happens in a place like this
well there was a man um who was unhappy
with uh one of the judges his name is
Carl John Carl O'Brien and essentially
he was upset with the judge Amanda
Sanchez via Lobos and he was upset with
her and you know instead of dealing with
it like you know a lot of us would you
know maybe know attending Court you know
maybe writing a letter doing some kind
of a protest let letting letting the
news know trying to get a hold of local
media or hiring an attorney what what Mr
what Mr O'Brien decided to do is he
decided to arm himself with an axe and
show up at the courthouse and you know
try to with the intent to chop the judge
into pieces and I mean that's why I'm
saying it's crazy he's this crazy
looking guy who's walking around a
courthouse with an axe like he's a
character from the Walking Dead
I mean this doesn't make any sense and
now I know you might be saying well how
do you know it was his intent to to chop
up the judge into pieces like you know
maybe he was just going there because
he's weird and he wanted to he wanted to
threaten her well the thing is is
because this judge VI aobos could be in
any of Three Counties in anytime he
didn't know exactly where she where she
was going to be so before he showed up
at the courthouse in SE County he
actually drove around this pretty much
the state of New Mexico looking for this
judge he went into a couple different
law offices and a couple different cour
houses trying to find her and as he was
doing it he was yelling and screaming
and saying that he was going to shoot
the judge with a gun that that was his
intent that he wanted to kill the judge
that's what he was that's the allegation
that he was going around saying so when
he showed up with an axe at this
Courthouse he was confronted by a police
officer thankfully as soon as he was
confronted by a police officer he
dropped the axe and the police officer
was able to take him into custody really
without any incident and um he was
charged with I think seven different
felonies you know including attempted
murder um so that's just the kind of
strange thing that happens here in the
state of New Mexico that just happened
recently and um yeah the body camera
footage is wild it's this crazy looking
guy walking around a courthouse with an
axe again it looks like something out of
The Walking Dead he looks he looks
absolutely nuts um okay so the last case
that I want to talk about and you know
this is something that I usually don't
cover cases like this but I think this
is this is pretty interesting so um well
before I get into it let let me answer
Steve's question Steve why should
taxpayers fund and equip people that
have no duty to protect anyone but
themselves yeah uh that's that's not
true so um your Paradigm isn't correct
Steve so um yeah there's not a whole lot
I can do with a question like that
because the the premise of it just just
isn't true but let me just go down this
rabbit hole for a second so I think what
Steve is referring to is there was a
Supreme Court case not long ago that
basically you know here's what the claim
is people say that the the Supreme Court
Court said that police officers don't
have any obligation to protect anyone so
you're basically on your own so that's
what Steve said and if you actually look
at that Supreme Court case let me
explain a little bit here's what it was
basically what happened was is that you
know someone was complaining that
essentially the police didn't do a good
enough job the police didn't do a good
enough job and one of their loved ones
died so it wasn't a criminal case
against the police officers it was a
civil case so it's basically people
trying to get money out of the police
department because they think the police
officers didn't do a good enough job and
you know basically what what that said
what what was said is that in the court
case is basically the court said well
you know what the police officers didn't
violate any law they didn't violate you
know they didn't do anything illegal so
no just because they didn't do as good
of a job that that you want that I want
that maybe we can agree hey cops should
have done a better job but just because
they didn't do you know a good job you
can't sue them for money so that's
that's B basically what that Court said
it was a civil fight over money where
the judge said you or the court said you
know just because the police officers
did a less than a stellar job you can't
just sue them for money they didn't
break any law so so basically Steve
takes that ruling and then says they
have no obligation to protect anyone and
again that's that's that's pretty
dishonest because it's it's almost like
that Supreme it's basically saying that
that one Supreme Court case that most
police officers don't don't even know
about again I was a cop for 20 years I
never even heard of that case until I
started to do social media content I
didn't even I didn't even learn about
that case when I did my master's degree
in criminal justice and I didn't learn
about that case in law school so again
if you think that police officers out
there know about this case you're
absolutely crazy I can go and pull uh
the Albuquerque Police Department where
I retired from I'll go poll a thousand
people there is no way that that 10% of
cops know about this case so the again
the idea that police officers think
don't have to protect people because
there's some Supreme Court case that
says they can't get sued that's
absolutely insane and if you think that
you've never talk to a police officer in
your entire life and again here's why
it's dishonest and here is why context
matters is because if you're a police
officer and you decide to not protect
someone you take an active role in not
protecting someone there is Department
policy that you're going to violate and
if you violate Department policy you can
get fired there are also state laws and
there are also things that police
officers have to do in order to keep
their certification as a police officer
that have nothing to do with that
Supreme Court case over over money so
here's the thing if you've if you you
find one case one case of a police
officer who doesn't protect people who
doesn't protect people who runs the
other way and lets people die and you
can and you could see what happens to
those police officers they don't just
they they they don't just it's not like
nothing happens to them Uvalde is a
perfect example so I I think that the
police officers in Uvaldi especially
Chief Arondo and the first ones who are
on scene I think that they should have
done more that's my opinion maybe you
maybe you can disagree with me but to me
I think that the police officers should
have done more what happened well Chief
Arondo he had won a seat to the city
council so he lost his City Council seat
he was fired as a police officer he was
fired as a police officer and those
officers have been criticized more than
almost any other officers around um so
again the idea that like police officers
can just not protect people and nothing
happens again that's that doesn't that
doesn't make a whole lot of sense again
because you've all a case where we all
say well like no that isn't okay that
isn't okay for those police officers to
do the other case I can think of I don't
know if it was in Parkland but I think
it was a I think it was a police officer
in Florida who I think it might have
been the Parkland shooting someone
correct me if I'm wrong there was a a
school resource police officer who was
there who was outside of the school
during the shooting and you know the
allegation is that he didn't go into the
school um you know his defense was that
hey I was outside the school and um
because there's Echoes and things are
ricocheting I didn't know where the
shooting was coming from so yeah it
looks bad that I didn't go into where
the shooter was but he at least claimed
like well I kind of thought the shooter
was like outside but again so you can
imagine a situation you can imagine a
situation where you know you're at a
school and shots are being fired and in
the moment you may not know where the
shots are coming from like that's not
completely unreasonable and what
happened to that officer he was
prosecuted he was prosecuted I think he
was found not not guilty which was
probably correct but again he was
prosecuted for that so so here's what
I'm saying here's what I want you to you
find one situation where a police
officer failed to act didn't act and let
someone die or get seriously injured and
they just said well I just didn't want
to help and you find where there's no
internal investigation where they're not
fired or disciplined or retrained like
you're not going to find a case like
that and and yeah cage and Randy I said
yeah uh yeah one case Uvalde fit said
yeah yeah I I agree kjun Randy jual is a
case where and again I think me and
Steve probably disagree because Steve
likes to talk about the officers who
were on the out and I've covered this
case a bunch but but the officers who
were outside um I don't think they did
anything wrong and and I'm going to
explain why because Steve mentioned it
but the officers who were so you have to
imagine it this way the officers who
were there were off there were like 20
cops who were inside okay none of the
radios talk to each other so the
officers who were inside are different
than officers who showed up 35 minutes
later and went outside the officers who
were outside here's what they knew hey
there's an active shooter in a school
and there's 20 other cops inside the
school that's all they know they they
don't have body cams or live feed they
don't know what we know now if they did
my guess is they would have acted
differently but all those officers knew
is that there's an active shooter in the
school and there's 20 cops inside
dealing with it and parents are now
trying to get into the school well like
again the idea that police officers are
supposed to let more people into an
active shooter situation whether it's at
a school a library a grocery store the
idea that when police are trying to go
after an active shooter that you let
more civilians into that scene that's
insane that would absolutely be against
training and it makes absolutely no
sense and again yes if you're going to
look at it with 2020 hindsight and hey
everything that we know now we're going
to pretend that those cops were psychic
in the moment that's AB absolutely nuts
and it's extremely dishonest now you're
you want to criticize Chief Arondo and
the first six or seven cops who went in
with him yeah let's criticize them all
day long I'm 100% with you there but
again the hundred cops that were outside
who had no idea what was going on inside
except that there were 20 cops in there
dealing with it yeah I mean to criticize
them again it it's extremely dishonest
um so okay so I I I glad we addressed
that a little bit okay so this last case
I'm going to talk about um I don't
always talk about cases like this but um
you know I was I was actually tagged in
tagged in a video on Tik Tok of this
happening and um I thought it was an
interesting case so I went ahead and I
and I covered it there so let me tell
you what happened so um basically here's
where the Tik Tok video starts um it's
basically a a ring doorbell camera at an
apartment complex and you know the
neighbor basically has the camera facing
directly across the hall at the
neighbor's at the neighbor's door and
here's what happens here's what this
catches it basically catches a three
police officers knocking on the the door
of this of this place they're obviously
police officers they're in uniform it
says police and as they're knocking they
don't say hey Police Department or
anything like that they say door Dash
they yell door Dash as they're knocking
and the person on the other side you
know obviously has an ordered door Dash
so the person on the other side you know
you know basically has some questions
like door Dash and they go yeah we have
a delivery for you well the person ends
up answering the door and as the woman
answers the door the the police officer
kind of moves to where they could see in
and ask a couple questions like hey who
else is in here with you and stuff like
that and then the video stopped so you
know the the the controversy and I think
this you know what I actually went down
a rabbit hole to try to find where this
video was from and I almost thought it
was fake because one of the police
officers has like bright red hair and
yeah yeah police officers can look can
look differently I guess but you know
because of the bright red hair I almost
thought like is this is this real like
this are these real police officers or
is this like from some show that like I
I didn't see or some some you know
comedy sketch or or some training video
but you know from basically what I was
able to find I did find a couple
articles on it but they weren't local
articles they were like General articles
so this has been covered by some people
in the media uh I haven't found any
information that it's fake though again
it's I'm a little suspicious because I
can't find like the police department
where this happened um again I didn't
look real hard I looked for about 5
minutes but typically you know the first
couple articles you find are local
articles or like something from like CNN
that like indicate exactly where it
happened I couldn't find it maybe you
guys can't but you know so basically the
the someone tagged me in that video and
they said thoughts so I do have some
thoughts on it so um basically some of
my thoughts on this are that it's not
illegal so it's not illegal for police
officers to do police officers can use a
ruse they can lie they absolutely can do
that in order to do this kind of stuff
now again you may not like that but I'm
just saying just just factually speaking
it's legal now here's where police
officers cannot lie now let's say a
situation like this like somehow this
leads to an arrest or a collection of
evidence that's going to be used against
someone in court what police officers
cannot lie about is how they gained
entry so police officers will have to
well not only is it on body camera video
but police officers will have to testify
and write all of their documents
basically saying what they did hey we
used this rots we were outside we
knocked on the door we we yelled door
Dash so in all of the court paperwork
when it comes to either an arrest or you
know for the collection of evidence to
be used against someone cops have to be
honest about how they made entry they
have to be so that's what they can't lie
about they can lie to the people in the
moment right to to to to gain entry but
also they cannot um but also they cannot
um uh but also you know they have to be
honest in court paperwork um so but I'm
going to be just again very honest in my
career I spent 10 years on patrol um
where I was taking calls for service you
know in in Albuquerque and I never used
this once I I never used use this I
never used this once um not saying it
doesn't happen I actually reached out to
a couple other police officers Dexter
pittz um I reached out to him he's
pretty popular on Instagram he he wrote
a book um and I reached out to officer
Ben he runs thoughts of a police officer
Channel over on Instagram as well so I
reached out to them just to kind of kind
of get get their get their thoughts of
it and um that's that's the video AB
absolutely um so I uh uh so it looks
like maybe this happened near Seattle
Washington whoever whoever posts this
video it looks like uh Seattle
Washington is uh uh where their bio is
from so it's possible that that it's
from the it's possible that it's from
the Seattle area um so you know so so uh
it's not illegal to do but again it's
actually pretty rare here's why it's
rare um is because most of the time
police officers just just don't have to
don't don't have to lie about it um in
order to to to gain entry but um you
know also thinking about this I thought
okay well can I imagine a situation
where like I would want to use this as a
police officer and yeah I mean I guess I
could so this the scenario that I
thought of that like isn't that
unreasonable would be um I I guess it
would be I guess it would be let's say
there was a 911 hang-up call so so
essentially someone called 911 and the
operator was able to hear some kind of a
disturbance on the other end and then
you know police officers get there you
know what police officers do they always
do a little bit of research or they
should do a little bit of research hey
where are we going who lives there
what's Theory history of the house so
police officers have a n uh have a 911
call there was a disturbance on the
other line they do 2 minutes of research
and look up prior calls and oo these
people are uncooperative with police
officers so under that scenario could I
see police officers knocking on the door
and yelling door Dash as a just to try
to you know get people to open the door
to make sure everyone's okay yeah that's
fine I guess I could see that but again
it's not it's not common I don't think I
would do it in a situation like that
because here's the thing police officers
typically don't have to do this now
let's say you have let's say police
officers have you know um um objective
evidence that someone is in danger let's
say they get there and they knock and
announce Police Department police
department and you know no one answers
the door but they hear yelling and
screaming coming from inside um and they
hear yelling and screaming coming from
inside and they can articulate that hey
like it sounds like someone is in danger
well police officers at that point are
absolutely able to force entry if they
have an objective belief that you know
someone is in danger or someone needs
help they absolutely can just kick down
the door so again I always say like okay
well like if you if you have if you have
enough evidence that like anybody
objective will say yeah that's what we
want police officers to do like us
there's there's you can point to the
objective evidence hey hey we not we had
a 911 call we get there we knock on the
door no one answers and a woman is
screaming for help ye yeah I mean cops
are going to be good they're not going
to be you know they should have
qualified immunity if they try to sue
the cops or whatever but like that would
be a reasonable thing for cops to do in
a situation like this or let's say
there's let's say there's you know they
have someone in the house who has a
warrant or um you know some of well then
listen if if if that's the situation hey
police officers go and get a warrant get
a judge to sign off on your warrant and
then you know you you can go from there
so I guess what I'm saying is that
there's just there's very few situations
that are out so it must be it's outside
of like exigent circumstances and
outside where you have a warrant from a
judge that you have to gain entry where
you're using a ruse like this so um
again I guess it's fine I I if the
circumstances are similar to what I said
but um again it's pretty rare um uh yeah
you know police officers have also a
fake barked um to pretend like there's a
can9 there that I think is actually more
common and that I kind of like uh I
think that's that's that's funny um if
possible and again this is just my
personal preference if possible police
officers should just be honest because
again just being honest and just you
know putting the evidence out there
there's a woman screaming there's a man
screaming you know um situations where
this happens sometimes where I've had to
entry um a lot of times we call
Firefighters for this CU they have all
the tools to do this but you know you
get a 911 hang-up call um and and it's
an elderly person who you know barely
made it to the phone you get there you
kind of look inside no one's answering
and you know police on and the Neighbors
come out and they say yeah we haven't
seen Mrs Smith in a while but we know
she lives there alone and no one else is
in there calling 911 so you know that's
a situation where a lot of times police
officers will have to force entry a lot
of times you get the fire department
because again they have all the tools
and stuff like that to do it in order to
gain entry to see if somebody's in there
for help so police officers can do that
again a ruse like this again I I'm not
crazy about it and um it's actually
pretty rare all right couple comments
before before we're out of here let's
see Kuro says uh as long as there was
probable cause every US citizen should
know the Fourth Amendment absolutely
other question thanks caros for that
other questions I got about this people
like well you know police officers knock
on your door do you have to answer and
then if you answer do you have to let
them in so I think most people who watch
this channel especially watch the show
know the answers to but these are actual
comments I got on Tik Tok and Instagram
where I talk about this is that the the
thing is that no if police officers
knock on your door you don't have to
answer the door you have no obligation
again if cops have a warrant and they
want to come in um yeah they can knock
down the door eventually after they go
through different things and and come in
if they have a warrant um I would I I
would say this isn't legal advice but
this is what I would do that if police
officers were at my door and I knew they
had a warrant I would probably just come
out instead of making it a whole big
thing but again you know you're under no
obligation to um and then let's say
you're at the door with a police officer
the door's open the cops want to come in
and you don't want them to um do you
have to let them in so the answer is no
the answer is no you don't have to let
them in but you should also know that if
certain things are there that police
officers will come in anyways and that
will be within the law an example is
let's say again just like there was a
911 hang-up call or a call about a
domestic dispute dude opens the door and
uh dude opens the door and um you know
you could tell that there's someone in
the back or there's evidence that
there's someone in the back and know
police officers wanted to make sure that
everyone's okay because not because
they're psychic because there was some
like legitimate like objective evidence
that made them think that someone is in
danger yeah police officers are probably
going to go in the house and make sure
everyone's okay you may not want them to
but they're coming in and they should
come in all right uh that's going to be
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