Police Department he's he's
okay okay so see what you
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got 56 subdued him and the flight landed
safely back in
Albuquerque authorities removed him from
the plane and started their
investigation guys probably husky ey
probably
6'2 um probably 202
guy white guy um short hair he's in the
very back row on the uh on the captain
side thank you sir there's a uh the guy
that's sitting next to him said he was
federal law enforcement but oh no okay
so that's he's sitting next him perfect
okay W
me you make it y
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you
thank
you all these people are the able bodyy
passengers that they initially
help how you gentlemen doing off aler
Police Department he's oh he's
okay okay so see what you
got his feet are taped and oh
got when you I want you to scoot over as
far as you can
right
now where's it at uh I think the flight
ATT tank gravity and cell phone also was
in the seat pocket
do you guys have his carry
on did you want to take that tape off
his feet or are you able to walk with it
until we get
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slowly
17
okay this your stuff yes and then your
bag's up here yes okay
17 which one right or left uh left this
one
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did you find the J yeah we we asked him
he's moving very
slow
they have that wheelchair did they bring
it down here yeah yeah there's a
wheelchair here can you bring the
wheelchair closer we're going to put him
in a
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chair do you want that's the a chair you
have a regular
wheelchair I think there's one do you
guys have a wheelchair upstairs do we
have
you need another one is it a a chair
like this one that's anair I have
regular regular would be great any
pass ask ask him if he want to be uh
seen by um
ambulance
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no
easier to put him in a regular whe it be
easier to put him in a regular
wheelchair watch your
step I don't
understand well we got so we can cut
the go sit down so we can cut off
your don't kick or anything okay
boss all right he's going to pull you up
he's going to proba put you in different
restraints
okay got it
remove
I okay we're cool
right you're going to f some scissors
back here but I'm controlling them just
hold
still you're going to feel it again on
your left wrist just hold tight
okay I need another PA no
good Joe these are some witnesses here
you can get their 49 you you can flip
these on yeah are you going to put them
in my
car the bottom here's my
uh passenger side you don't mind I'm
going to open up your bag and throw
these in there okay start all
Consolidated
okay we appreciate your cooperation with
us thank
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you
we sit down so we can cut off your
I got scissors you need
them he's going to pull you up he's
going to probably put you in different
restraints
okay I've got Cuts I've got a cutter for
that
I'm going to remove the Str right I
don't want you to do anything don't
don't try to resist our F right all
right this one first grab this hand grab
grab hand okay we're cool right man all
right buddy you going to feel some
scissors back here but I'm controlling
them just hold
still I mean you're going to feel it
again on your left wrist just hold tight
okay
hey uh Joe these are some witnesses here
if you can get their 49 in state you
think you canp these
yeah if your car's here let's do
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that pass side
I'm going to open up your bag and throw
these in there okay throw in solid okay
yeah we appreciate your cooperation with
us thank you
app 1820 one in custody hold the r103
for me for another
minute
yeah
go on this
side best way to do it is best way to do
it is to go backwards just sit on your
bottom once he tells you and then you'll
just sit down and pull your feet in but
the officer will tell you when spread
your feet
for
down
you
have
no you're on the airb right here level
one with B
perfect when you're done can you grab
that yeah just take it
out watch your head there you go good
job
Joe going to come back here for the car
yeah yeah Joe will drive the car we just
he's just grabbing 49 from the witnesses
here do you want to stand by with him
with Joe with the prisoner okay what did
you see what what happened see actually
instant happen what happened was I was
on I was watching the movie flant came
and ran and grabbed me and said I need
your help took off my ear was ran back
there I saw them pulling him out of the
xow at that
time
ground and struck the flight attendant
to grab the bag with flex and the tap
and and we got the pass hand and the
other
got when when when the flight attendant
tell you that you needed help and when
you did you actually see the guy was he
trying to fight was he trying to get
away no he was actually very once he was
on the ground he was completely
compliant while we were putting the
handcuffs on he was compliant now the
emergency exit door you can see had been
t with the cover's been pulled off the
handle beened to you can't open that
door in
fight but uh yeah so you could see the
door you could see where he had had done
that he was sitting next to the door
there um but like I said once he was up
and we moved him back he was completely
comp going so it wasn't making any
better anything like that nothing no he
didn't speak at all he didn't even speak
when he sat him down the scene he
completely quiet and I said
subdued really didn't say anything
wasn't making any noises or anything
like that didn't kick you know wasn't do
anything so once he was pulled off the
door uh he really didn't fight back much
now when you guys where where did you
guys depart from uh here here okay when
you guys were moving out and you guys
are backing up or when the plane was
poring you didn't notice anything or
about and I always walk the passengers
coming along for those reasons and we
didn't you know nothing
odd all right I'm pretty sure they'll
probably get your St if they haven't
already talked to you FBI
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here so he's cuffed um behind and then
we have him anchored did you want him uh
one cuff on the the deal and arme just
so we could do the advice of Rights and
he can sign cool cool very free
hand sorry I don't know how to I've
never had to use this before I've only
been here
for for 6 months so first time for for
yeah how do you use this turn it uh
counter
there turn
it you have
access we go clockwise clockwise
clockwise take one second probably have
you stand up here in just a second
little bit yeah in a little bit I got to
wait up wait wait sorry
common spelling for both s w and s o n
what's that for your last thing how you
spell it s w and S all right Justin or
Dustin and his passports on the on the
table
there okay go and lean
forward you right-handed I am okay I'm
going to take off your right cuff so
that you can sign paperwork that they
have okay okay go and place your hand on
top of your head okay once I take it
off that's probably relieving
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right you're good to
go that's his uh carryon luggage there
all right and this was your this was
your backpack right cuz there was
another Black Backpack it just that one
mine anything else left on plane uh I
think I got my
phone
head right Justin my name is
Stacy special agent with Al FBI field
office I see so before we ask any
questions
just going to go through this document
with you it's your Revis of Rights so
it's 338 I'm just going to go with go
through it with you line by line can
read it with me so before we ask you any
questions you must understand your
rights you have the right to remain
silent anything you say can be used
against you in court you have the right
to talk to a lawyer for advice before we
ask you any questions you have the right
to have a lawyer with you during the
questioning if you cannot afford a
lawyer one will be appointed for you
before any questioning if you wish if
you decide to answer questions now
without a lawyer present you have the
right to stop answering at any time now
if you could read this sentence for me
out loud I have read this statement of
my rights and I understand what my
rights are at this time I am willing to
answer questions without a lawyer pres
do you okay so if you want if you can
sign right below the consent sentence
that you just read out
loud and if you don't want us to record
we can step out but unfortunately if
we're here we
have
what I I I put it on loud cuz you forget
sometimes and it just reminds
me you got Justice Swanson what's your
uh where I get personal information
from
all
right all right if you want to go and
swing your legs
out all right trying to bump your head
thank you very much you can go over to
that door
there I could just have stand right here
for
me go ahead sorry about that
hangle
left and a
right let's keep going and we'll hangle
left at this door
here right here thank you
sir and I'm going and put you that
holding still
there give me just a
second all right go aad and have a
seat just going to have you lean forward
a little bit a little bit too much goad
and sit back you know
what let me um go over well you're
you're long and lengthy so I'll have
another hand set of cuffs to this
otherwise you're going to
be sitting all the way to the
back
you have checkpoint last hour right
yeah I'll stay here if you want to did
you want can you you have an extra set
of Cuffs in yeah is your C well no the
they're too short so they're not long
enough to cut those other what cut she's
got
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1824 PD one in holding c number
two
Che these these Med key things I hate
these
things now if you could need this
sentence for me out loud I've read this
statement and my rights and I understand
what my rights are at this time I am
willing to answer questions without a
lawyer pres do you y so if you want you
can
sign right below the consent sentence
that you just read out
loud and if you don't want us to record
we can step out but unfortunately if
we're here we
have
I just curious what it
was I I I put it on loud cuz you forget
sometimes and it just reminds
me where you headed today from going
Toronto Toronto you
looking uh meet my wife okay yeah what
was what was taking you to Toronto she
live there
yeah she said she said she
does what do you mean oh I haven't been
there yet
you haven't been to Toronto yet where
your wife lives yeah okay way did she
move out
there you know how long you Liv there I
don't how long have you guys been
married a while long time okay so you've
been married to your spouse for a while
she moved to Toronto at some point
unknown time do you have an address for
it I don't have
any
what's your
name
uh how do you spell that l i
l l i l t what's your last name
so they 16 and if they don't probably
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2600 ahead go
ahead better
somewhere else
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before
this like before you were born or oh
before this body was born yeah
okay so you don't have okay all right so
no way of contact you said no so how are
you planning on meeting when you go to
Toronto I told you I had
address okay so you just drive out there
to her yeah did she know you were coming
out there yeah
okay all right why don't we just jump
what happened on the plane tell me
what's going on she asked me to open the
door little yeah okay
how well obviously crazy again in my
head
okay so you heard her voice and what did
she say she said
okay do you is that how you guys
communicate is MH
okay she G me a reason why no she just
told me to do okay and you just do what
she tells you to
do I will not deny her thing okay did
she ever ask you to do anything else no
never no okay well
not
no what do you mean by that I mean
nothing
this
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okay what you do for work uh right now I
do
security CA
compy Highway
6 okay so you do security on for Highway
6 I lost how long you been
there uh about one year now
what did you do before that the general
manager of the days
in
okay no I grew up in Iowa okay where in
Iowa iorn inem Califor born in Fremont
to De Mo then your way here is well born
in Fremont moved to Iowa join the Navy
then what' you do in the Navy
oh how long were you in the Navy for
years
station one
of so
sign just decided not to make a career
out of it did one enlistment and get out
yeah I didn't want
to I
saw 20
years not everyone's cup of
te sorry I'm just writing down a few
things as we talk that's all
right I don't
forget all right so just to make sure
just to jump back to what we were doing
so you you got on the plane to go to
Toronto to meet your wife liil first
name Li last name unknown unknown phone
number you have an address for her in
your phone how did she give you that
address oh I found it you found it
online on YouTube she had posted uh
business like okay so you found her
address did so did you call her before
you were coming out what did she
do she
plans like what kind of
planning what does that mean she is your
mother and I am whole father what does
that mean that means the
father I still still not
following
everything like
God in your term yeah I guess but not
really and there's a website with her
information it's on YouTube oh on
YouTube
yeah
so any idea why she was ask you to open
the door yes if you want me to prove
that I have PE
okay she said that to you or you just
making that assumption uh that's what I
know
okay she asked to make previous or
similar things previously or ever asked
you
well in previous times say she asked you
to do things oh yeah but I don't think
you guys have enough
kind of paper would any of them been
similar to something you did now
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um little stranger and all over the
place but I mean it's not worth
recounting because okay I guess what I'm
getting has to be frank is where they
where the criminal acts right because
what you did today was right was to
prove your you had faith in her right
but obviously there's a lot of
passengers on that plane that weren't
weren't hearing liil talk to them
and obviously you endangered their lives
so that's why we ask is there is there
other things she's asked you to do that
you've done I understand I there's
nothing else I
anything and just again we ask these
questions there's no offense that by are
you sorry I was pressing for my next
question right you do you take any
medications um no I haven't taken I in
sometime any other
medications you SE doctor medical
professional okay have you ever for any
mental health issues any physical issues
that you think would be relevant for us
to know about right now I have Mig kid
okay do you still have those no
okay okay I don't have any other
questions to you is there anything else
you think you need to tell
us have you ever been arrested before uh
the Tain BS for trying to get a drunk
guy out of a vehicle I I just knocking
out the window I was a p skate too and
the cop came up and pulled me in the car
he might not have recorded it I don't
know so you were knocking on was it your
friend's window you were knocking my
neighbor in Iowa it
was okay but were you arrested in
processed like no no no okay just
detained in the back of his car until he
resolved it yeah okay so after you tried
to open the door oh it was locked I was
just knock out the window I was asking
him to stop ping at the horn on the
plane when you were trying to open the
door no no no the guy in
Iowa circling back sorry circling back
to the plane just now after you tried to
open the
door what do you remember happening I
remember at all uh they Pinn me down and
dragg me to the back okay aftering my
shoes ankles
wrists okay
okay I think that's
it imagine they'll probably push that
hand in C waiting and then we'll get
back inch you can actually keep it down
there hey Justin are you recovering from
any mental illnesses no
okay sorry one other question I think I
already asked this I just want to I just
want to double check have you ever been
seen by mental health professional um my
parents got divor when I was uh just in
elementary school see like
okay and did where's anything diagnosed
prescribed at that time don't
you all right than thank
you just for paperwork reasons are you
doing okay uh just a little can I take
my watch off or yeah yeah take it off
watch and then we I'll throw it in your
backpack
okay and what I'm going to do cuz you're
kind of a big dude I'm going to put two
cuffs okay just if you move them over
cuz you're sing your shoulder shoulders
hurt a little bit if you move them under
then we're going to have to put one cuff
again okay but if you keep them just
behind
you you all right get right y you guys
some water uh yeah yeah we we get you uh
let me go grab that real quickly if you
watch him grab it from sant's
office
unfortunately you're going to go back
into one cup okay all
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right switch
them yeah you're going to have to switch
those let you turn this whole B like
this there we
go a little
bit sorry I'm going to loosen this one
up a little bit okay yes sir thank
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you work down
what
yeah I I can I can grab two more on the
way out you want to just put those in
your
pocket you
ready come
on walk through the hallway take a
right take a
we're going to be holding open 10
15-2 go through with you
yeah come
on where
at I believe it's
second
sound
right all right before I put you in I'm
going to pat you down one more time okay
yes sir going spr your feet there you
go
okay go and have a SE
there
watch try to get some air back here for
you all thank
you
all