Please tell me what crime I committed. Or what's your charge you with or anything? So then I do not have to give you my ID or identify myself because I'm not committing a crime. No, I No, I do not. [clears throat] I have not committed a crime and I'm not under arrest. It states it in the law. It's my constitutional right. >> If I ask you? First off, I just wanted to have a conversation with you. Police pulled over a man after an officer was allegedly seen speeding and following dangerously on the highway despite there being no emergency situation. As the man calmly recorded the entire interaction, requested a clear explanation of the alleged offense, and refused to provide identification without a lawful basis, the officer repeatedly changed their explanation and tried to justify the stop as merely a conversation. Instead of backing down, the man continued to challenge the logic of the situation, pointing out contradictions in the officer's conduct and highlighting the inconsistency of enforcing laws they themselves appeared to violate. Ultimately, when a supervisor arrived and acknowledged that the man was not legally required to provide identification in that situation, the officers were forced to release him without any charges. >> Okay, you can go. What did I do wrong? I would like to identify >> I do not have to. I have not committed a crime. What was my crime? Please tell me the charge that I committed. >> Charge the 214. Can you come to my 20? Please tell me the crime that I committed. I wanted to have a proper conversation with you to let you know that I can't catch people that are doing 80. Where does it state in the law that you're allowed to go over the speed limit unless it's an emergency? Please tell me the NRS code that states that or the DMV code and traffic laws that state that you can do that. Okay, but look. No, please say that to me. I'm I'm invoking my fifth amendment right. trying to enforce public safety because my radar was flashing 75, 78, 79. So somebody up there is speeding. And nine times out of 10 when they're speeding, they're making unsafe lane changes, Okay, you were way behind me, ma'am. I saw you long ago and you came really quick up along me and took my picture. >> Maybe because you were doing My cruise control set at 70. Ma'am, I have a breathalyzer, okay? It records everything, okay? So it records my speed. I stay at 65. I use my cruise control. Okay. So I'm glad that you do your speed limit and all that, but I'm just trying to let you know that my radar is flashing 78. Please tell me what crime I committed. Or what you're charging me with right now? >> any So, then I do not have to give you my ID or identify myself because I've not committed a crime. No, I No, I do not. I've not committed a crime and I'm not under arrest. It states it in the law. It's my constitutional >> safety? If I ask you? First off, I just wanted to have a conversation with you letting you know my radar detected That Okay, fine. Your equipment your radar device detected >> Am I on paper? Yeah. As far as what? For parole or probation? I do not have to identify myself. I don't. I've not committed a crime. I don't think you have any fourth amendment rights up here on paper. I don't have to disclose anything and if you really want to go down that road, no, I'm not on probation or parole just to satisfy your need to go ahead and pry information from me. I have the right to drive on public roadways in the US without any infringement upon me. Yeah, this is I just wanted to have a conversation with you. >> And I'm just letting you know that you're an officer of the law and you're supposed to uphold it. So, you shouldn't be speeding If I tailgated you, you would have pulled me over immediately. But you have no idea what I was doing. If you really had an emergency, the second you got around me, you would have took off to go get that person, but you didn't. No, because I felt like I I owed you an explanation. Okay, what's more important? Giving me an explanation or protecting the roads and safety as you're so stating you're trying to uphold. Oh, by the way, Van Allen. And my P number is 483 for the record. >> fine. Yeah, but we're just waiting on sergeant >> No, that's fine. Sergeant can come out. Not a problem. So, he can give you some further education as well. Further education, ma'am? I've been researching law and all the rights that I have and the thing is is that officers don't like it when people know the law. This is the tragedy because I just wanted to have give you an explanation rather than to do it at 65 mph. And that was your choice to do it. You're not even receptive. >> is that you're pulling me over to have a conversation and now you're having your sergeant come out because I won't identify myself for your safety. But obviously, if you had a concern for your safety, you would be either holding me at gunpoint or you wouldn't have approached my window. You would have backed up and went to your vehicle by now and waited for your supervisor if you were really that concerned for your safety. So, explain to me how it is that you're still concerned for your safety if you're still standing here having a conversation with me. And I'm being very eloquent. I'm not cursing. I'm not being rude. I'm just stating our rights. And I And I I'm all for that, you know, but You're supposed to uphold the law. You took an oath. You're supposed to know the law on top of that. So, when I ask for what NRS code or violation that I would have had and committed or infraction, you're supposed to, as an officer of the law, state that. That's supposed to be your knowledge. You're supposed to know it. And the fact that you can't give me one is very concerning. Hello, Sergeant Kelly. How are you doing today? >> I've been better. A little bit upset at the fact that your officer is stating the claims that she's stating. It's very unprofessional and upsetting that an officer of the law can't give me the NRS code that apparently I'm violating, but then she tells me I have not committed a crime or a charge. So, I do not have to identify myself. And if she really felt that concerned for her safety, she would have stepped away from my window. She would have backed up and waited until you, her supervisor, came to assess the situation. Obviously, she's still standing here having a full conversation with me for 8 minutes, she obviously does not have a concern for her safety. She just wants to do a paper's check because I [clears throat] know when you run the ID, it goes into the database and it shows that I had an interaction with law enforcement. And I'm not having that on my record. So, I do not have to declare my identity because I have not committed a crime. I'm not under arrest. You're You're right. You're not under arrest at the moment, but you were detained. >> She never stated that, officer. Any time that Any time an emergency vehicle stops you, you are detained. Okay? Just so you know. All right? You may not be under arrest, but you are detained at that moment. But, I still do not have to present my ID. I still do not have to present my ID. Technically, by law, you don't have to present your ID. >> Thank you for [clears throat] stating that. But, by law, you do have to provide your name. No, I do not. Okay. That's providing an identity. That's That's giving it. >> I'm not going to argue with you. After speaking with her, you're free to go at the moment. >> Okay. But, for future reference, you do have to state your name. Okay. And for future reference, you need to advise your officer that just because she's a law enforcement official, if I had tailgated her the way she tailgated me, you guys would have pulled me over in a heartbeat. >> in a hurry. I wasn't there. I didn't see that. Okay. As far as we know, you're free to go. Can I have your badge number, please? Uh 214. Okay. I'll be making a formal complaint since you do not want to go ahead and reprimand your officer for the fact that she was driving unsafely. >> What I do with my officers is a personnel matter, which is not public record. Just so you know. And like I said, I will go to your superiors, but thank you. I know I'm free to go. I'm just stating for the record that I will be making a formal complaint because you refuse to go ahead and let your officer know that she does not have the authority to tailgate or to speed unless it is an emergency. >> Okay. I'm not going to debate any of that. That's fine. I'll go on my merry way. You have a nice day, officer. Use the shoulder here to get up to speed, merge over in this lane. Just be careful, okay? Yep.