[Music]
[Applause]
oh
[Music]
so
okay
[Music]
okay
[Music]
okay
yeah
i
just kept banging on the door okay and
then
rushing them back he still kept saying
we need to land the plane we
[Laughter]
once again ladies and gentlemen
[Applause]
apparently he's going to tell you how he
feels
wait is he talking dude just [ __ ] is
there anywhere
else
all right so
is
hey somebody grab a phone or something
[Laughter]
[Music]
all right ladies and gentlemen uh if
you'll remain in the gate area we'll
give you information as to the status of
the flight
oh
[Laughter]
i think they're gonna be playing you
guys first
[Applause]
[Laughter]
we can't do nothing
[Laughter]
which one do you know
10 comfort um
and on please remain seated
to the side so that law enforcement can
go all the way to the back uh for that
passenger
so once again if you are in the aisle at
this time
we just met a whole new home
[Applause]
guarantee please uh him
you say sunday though because everything
is on sunday
everybody yeah
oh yeah he's totally conscious as soon
as we uh get everybody off we'll cut the
bottom one off
anybody
hey let's make some new ones
xyg airsoft make sure you guys follow me
all right
click the like button
youtube.com
[Music]
oh
[Applause]
this guy's a weirdo
you're the one with this worldwide
oh
he
yeah
i
uh
[Music]
well they're not leaving the airport
hey man [ __ ] you for [ __ ] us up homie
[ __ ] you
okay hey let's keep it down okay
well i don't know we just
i'm pretty sure that i feel the same way
all these people feel there's there's
just a bunch of i guess i might not like
to hear that in some children
i'm pretty sure that i'm doing okay but
okay i'll shut up
[Music]
okay
christian norton
um
um
[Applause]
[Laughter]
all right
is
probably
oh
oh
hey
see that
ruining [ __ ] people's plans because
you're a [ __ ]
somebody needs to say something about it
but i hope you thumbs him up before you
take him to jail all right hope you [ __ ]
him up
[Laughter]
[Applause]
[ __ ] this homie back here
[Music]
ladies
[Laughter]
let's
yeah
[Applause]
he's a worthless [ __ ] turtle
[Music]
[Music]
we're
are you okay what's up my name is oscar
garcia with the albuquerque police
department okay
we're here we're here to try to find out
are you okay
uh
am i okay yeah
i'm okay okay
we're gonna we're gonna cut these off
all right and then we're gonna put
regular handcuffs on there okay
you understand that
uh the incident that happened we got the
fbi coming down to talk to you to find
out what caused all this okay
so can you reach over here and grab this
hand
we can try
well they're really kind of tight bro
so
[Music]
let me see lift up your arm just a
little bit
i think myself
okay
[Music]
oh
drop this one
pretty loose
okay
all right i'm gonna cut this yellow one
that they have on here okay so it should
snap off
well
sit up
come on go ahead and push yourself up
you need help we'll help you okay
yeah we got you a little bit
going to sit down up as much as you can
are you okay now are you open to talk
you still have your wallet with you and
everything right yeah where's your bag
at
you don't have a bag
what about your shoes
i'm going to stand you up and just get
your bearing there for a second okay
stand up
that both
thank you so much
what is your wallet with your idea
um
[Music]
more you can put them on like that i
mean i usually in time but uh it doesn't
really matter
yeah it's gonna be hot on the floor put
the foot in there okay
[Music]
[Music]
oh
that's right
[Music]
there you go okay
here we'll take that shoe off again
loosen it up for you
sit back a little bit
brother
this
he said he doesn't know where his
wallets are i don't know if maybe it
fell around
we'll check him yeah
we're going to take them
okay
real quick
just hold off
[Music]
[Music]
[Music]
all right have a seat real quick
[Music]
[Music]
gonna just drive right over here okay
[Applause]
oh
you guys yeah getting all the witness
statements
yeah joe's trying to get statements but
i i need everybody who was involved in
detaining
you want everybody up here yeah whoever
was involved entertaining
folks uh if i have your attention on
flight crew 86.
again ladies and gentlemen if i have
your attention for just a moment folks
like 386 pastors if you were involved in
detaining the passenger kindly come on
up here to 1810
anyone involved and detain the passenger
will kindly
[Music]
well i'm getting them
trying to figure out who is who so that
way when they get here they can do their
interviews okay
anybody involved in detailing
customers
yeah i've got my numbers here okay
he was able to
stop
how many were there that were actually
the entertainer probably three so the
flight attendant is a freaking hero so
he got him on the ground and then
he jumped on him on his torso i was
right there and i was on his shoulder
and then the smaller guy who was sitting
to my right
back there there's a guy he was he
helped and then one up there there was
like four people playing for the back of
his leg here okay um fbi has to respond
to this because it happened while in
flight and they're going to want to talk
to you guys
so if you guys can just kind of
stay kind of close together they should
be here within the next 5-10 minutes
brother
no i think you get a 100
credit um
[Laughter]
he was awarded
first okay so
i applied it
if i could
i could just get your names
so that way when they get here you guys
can go ahead and sit back down and i'll
just have them
they can take for you guys
well
i was trying to suck went through this
mask i was so out of breath oh yeah
i was like oh diddy well thankfully you
didn't do wrong
what's your name sir
thomas um
18
[Music]
okay yeah as soon as the fbi gets here
they're going to want to talk to you
guys
right cool thanks
[Music]
could you give me his name rory r-o-r-y
last name's atkins a-d
k-i-n-s
okay this
is talking thank you
i think they're gonna
i got his name
[Music]
uh
[Applause]
everybody squared away as far as
officers go
and then someone else will start uh
calling
nika me
uh deputy director
okay usually if
because you were on site they probably
didn't call you okay
okay
all right
all right
but anybody who was involved in
detaining
i think we have to keep them here
because this isn't their destination
he said he didn't know if they were
gonna like leave or what the plan was it
sounded like they're probably gonna put
everybody up in a hotel overnight oh
okay but
the captain
all right mr norton i'm gonna go ahead
and read you these rights okay you have
the right to remain silent anything you
say can will be used against you in a
court of law you have the right to talk
to an attorney to have a president with
you during while you are being
questioning if you cannot afford an
attorney
or hire one
one will be appointed to you
to present you or represent you before
any question if you wish if you decide
to answer any questions
or exercise these rights you do not
answer any questions or make any
statements
and it's up to you okay
um
do you feel like giving any statements
to the albuquerque police right now
oh my man
huh i'm a man you're a man
okay
what what i'm gonna ask you mr norton is
what happened on the flight
what happened that uh
this whole incident transpired well what
happened was uh
i got onto a plane
and on the plane
i realized that everything is a video
game
and
that
i had been hypnotized
by friends into believing
and so
i
thought
i thought
i thought that
i thought the devil was going to rape me
okay
and he's either take a choice between
the devil raping me
or
going insane right
and so
or at least pretending to go insane
so i thought then i thought
i wanted to be brave
and so i thought what is the worst
outcome
and i thought the worst outcome
was for the devil to raise me forever
but then i thought
that by thinking that
i had and then i'm not choosing that
that'd be out of weakness
and so i chose
to
go with
charging the pilot quarter okay
were you intending on hurting yourself
or hurting anybody in the plane
was that my intention or anybody in the
plane yes was not it was not no
are you intending on hurting yourself or
anybody right now no
you know that everything that you would
describe uh your rational thinking of
what's happening
might constitute for you to go talk to
somebody because that might not be
normal
especially when you're
when you when you attack a cockpit on a
plane in flight i realize it's not
normal okay
so are you willing to go talk to a
church a physician possibly to find out
if you have some mental issues
because you don't want to hurt yourself
and you don't want to hurt anybody but
apparently
you could hurt a lot of people
you know what i'm saying if that plane
would have crashed yeah a lot of people
could have got hurt yeah
okay but you are not thinking of hurting
yourself or anybody right now
are you is anybody still talking to you
inside your head uh
explaining to you that they're going to
rape you kill you the devil he's still
talking to you right now no
you seem to have left you right now
you're a common at ease right now yeah
okay
are you willing for us to take you
somewhere to get you some help
i am
okay and you don't live here in
albuquerque new mexico you do know
you're in albuquerque new mexico right i
gotta do that okay
all right we're gonna have a uh fbi
agent he's gonna come and talk to you
and he's going to try to find out what
your intentions were on that plane as
well because you you did push a flight
attendant
i pushed the flight of the [ __ ] yes and
he was just getting in your way from not
being raped is what you're saying right
yes
okay
all right we're just gonna talk to
everybody and see what's going on and
trying to rationalize everything and
and uh
you know they'll they'll try to get you
some help okay
so
i'm serious
uh i feel uh
relatively okay relatively okay
okay
um
i i gotta grab something out of the car
you guys you okay hanging out here for
one second i'm gonna tell you who i am
we're gonna chat here for a sec yeah i'm
sorry i forgot two forms okay
okay
you need larry to let you out
uh i think i can let myself out
and then we'll find out we'll find out
hey larry
hey escort him back out
yeah i hit the button it goes i was like
oh aaron you're aaron yes sir okay i got
your info on on my 42 disney
me back game i gotta correct my forms
so
completely
okay
i'm gonna try this again
[Music]
i am a pacifist she is extremely violent
okay i am warning you right now she will
hurt you
so
well i'm just trying to
get this key to work
mary
[Laughter]
apparently
so i don't know i need one of those key
fobs i don't know where you guys get
those but this thing is just not working
all right
um
so
at this point it is
i can go over
miranda rights but do you want to talk
to us or if you want to return
uh i mean i'm open to whatever
well i can read you your advice all
right so you know the standard rights or
right cause you have to worry about
entirely yeah i'll tell you whatever you
guys are going on okay all right so this
is a recorder i turn on the recorder so
i don't have to write everything down
yeah okay so it records our conversation
[Music]
sure okay cool um
okay
and it's
uh june 4th
so
in order to
facilitate that with you
i have this
nifty form here
it's called
professionally advice of rights
and
i put this down here
so basically this is what it's gonna do
before i fill it out i'm going to just
go over with you and make sure you're
okay
so follow along with me for a second
okay before we ask you any questions you
must understand your rights you have the
right to remain silent anything you say
can be used against you in court you
have the right to talk to a lawyer for
advice before we ask you any questions
if you have the right to have a lawyer
with you during questioning you cannot
afford a lawyer one will be appointed
for you before any questioning issue if
you wish
if you decide to answer questions now
without your present you have the right
to stop answering at any time you
understand all that uh
yep i have read the statement of my
rights and i understand what my rights
are at this time i'm willing to answer
questions without another question
do you want to do something i mean
probably do i have a choice i don't know
of course you have a choice that's why
we went over this
so it's your right to talk to us it is
your right not to talk to us so you're
going to have an attorney present with
you
it's your right
the
it's your right so if you feel
uncomfortable without talking to us
always wait to have an internal presence
i mean
usually out of training but
it's it's up to you and i'm pressuring
you one way or the other but
so we are here in the albuquerque baby
albuquerque police aviation unit
[Music]
today is the fourth of june
604
21.
all right so i'm going to go over this
with you one more time okay good
before you we ask you any questions you
must understand your words do you
understand that yeah okay you have the
right to remain silent
yeah
anything you say can be used against
your court
you have the right to talk to a lawyer
for advice before we ask any questions
okay
you have the right to have a lawyer with
you during questioning
if you cannot afford a lawyer one will
be appointed for you before any question
if you wish
if you decide to answer questions now
without another president you have the
right to stop answering at any time you
understand all that yeah okay
so what i want you to do is check this
center right or left
i'm right here right-handed so i wanted
but i actually thinking about this
i mean this is a big deal
like i
almost took down
so i'm going to take this format i'm
going to turn off the recorder we'll
stop the questioning right now okay
you're gonna hang out here for a few
minutes i gotta make a couple phone
calls decide what we're gonna do next
something i
i don't know what's going on here
but this is a legitimate thing in a
police station
i did the criminal act
and
it's about having a lawyer
right that's what's happening
again i can't advise you because this
whole thing is so confusing okay
yeah
i understand
uh
if this is a real
situation
which it is
[Music]
all then you're right
it's not a problem yeah not an issue at
all do you feel do you feel okay
otherwise
you feel okay healthy right now yeah
you know i feel uh
slightly lightheaded probably you know
i'm going to ask you some basic
questions not about the incident yeah
but it's
basically about you
a little bit about your history that
just needs to know okay okay um
any use of drugs narcotics i mean i've
been like
within the past 24 hours oh no no no
that that's not that i know okay no
that's like weird hippie communion at
some point and so i might have
taken something there or something but
okay
and then do you feel suicidal
any do you have any notions of hurting
yourself brothers no
okay
um
anyone said anything else
nausea vomiting no no okay palpitations
chest pain anything else some pain me i
do feel something right
i just want to make sure
um i just those questions are just for
make sure you're okay
okay
well you can't you can't pull it up i
don't know you haven't
i haven't said it yet um
down
is
his name
phone number social security number
um
i was basically living with my sister oh
okay right so i'm gonna write down oak
hill avenue southeastern
[Music]
okay
[Music]
aaron you got your id with you
so i can put it down on the 42 and also
part number
okay i got your name
uh yeah your cell number and then
probably you want to put a dob on there
what's that
mind no no please don't do that okay and
your address to your work
craig
2154
is it 4200 looking mm-hmm
[Music]
505.
okay and what's your card number
all right
i'm sorry i'm married to one
but i always checked tonight
were young in that photo oh yeah young
little guy
i know i've been in apd for
since 1984.
she wasn't born yet
i went to iraq four times
and then somalia i was in bain roof 1983
there's a storm in 91 of christmas
hey mary
barry
check and see if that 42 is on the
printer yet
[Music]
what are you doing over there go over
there
[Music]
well uh i don't think it honestly
you guys are gonna have to deal with it
and then i'm gonna be motherfucked by
every officer
[Music]
yeah
did it print out
there's no report on there
six
so
it said it sent it now
[Music]
[Music]
yes
no i got the 42 for very good
so
look
what's that brother
he wanted the fbi he wanted to look at
it on it because he said he might change
everything
[Applause]
good
he's available for 21.
whatever i'll give you guys
oh
[Music]
nope i'm just waiting on you guys to
determine what they're gonna do
you guys might need to transport for
them
[Applause]
one two three she's not even little
[Applause]
so
[Music]
[Music]
so
me
uh
wow
um
cup of water
lately
10 50 that's true
so
hmm
[Music]
so
[Music]
[Applause]
so
sure
so
so
okay
um
and once it brings that cup
you got to drink it and then
because i can't just leave it hanging
out
i'm okay actually
you can think of it right seriously well
i just uh
take a drink and then i'll take it back
out
what's up you can take a drink and then
i'll take it
we can't just leave in here in case
something falls in there you can i
actually don't need water sure yeah okay
um
[Music]
oh
hmm
uh
hmm
oh
so
huh
yeah
almost hit here just make a right
so
maybe
so
oh
oh yeah
but i was in the military for 30 years
so i wasn't here the whole time
i was in hawaii north carolina
california
okinawa south all over the place
um
no everything everywhere you go is fun
you know
yeah i was up in sydney up in australia
been to tokyo been to hong kong i've
been all over the place so
um
um
my last
african tour was up in djibouti
oh yeah
how's that
oh that whole country is unstable right
now
you know
get the somalis right next to that to
djibouti it's it's
crazy yeah
right you know it's fun i mean i've i've
even been to poland germany
switzerland
warsaw it's nice
what are you doing out there work
visiting friends yeah my wife
with your wife
you've been trying to patch things back
up with her
well
you know what
now
[Music]
how long you've been divorced now
a long time
and actually the girl was talking about
after that i really want to throw it out
[Music]
the good news is is we are going to go
together to get something to eat okay
uh the bad news is that you're going to
spend a weekend in jail okay all right
so there's some paperwork that i've got
to do to make you as comfortable as
possible over the weekend and then
you're going to see me on monday good
right and believe me this is nothing
personal and it's the last thing i want
to be doing right now
is driving to single account sound good
yeah all right so um what is
are you employed you have a job uh not
recycled just living off of the uh
food scam cbts
um no psych issues no complaint of
injury
was like problems no medications no
alcohol use no i didn't drink that
in the last 24 hours
yes
okay
well i guess yeah well
you're not going to go to nashville
tonight
yeah i know that don't go to jail
but in my mind what i'm thinking is
trippy
and
i'm done
saying but i can do it again i think you
guys are gonna send me a sexy
[Applause]
you are not going to get a sex change
operation in the next
60 hours
sound good
60 hours i don't want one ever okay well
then you know it's you're right you
unless you want it
okay while you were with me you are not
going to get one i can promise you that
okay sound good okay see my belly's
actually good for something
garcia's [ __ ] busting my balls you
see him look at him he's laughing he's
like this badass hey
[Music]
your phone is
in seattle
california right california seattle or
you know you were in l.a what's that
where did you start flying well i i was
started flying in seattle and i lost my
phone in seattle
and now i'm in l.a later
okay did you leave the commune in l.a or
do you leave
i don't want to ask you too many
questions i need to be able to get a
hold of shayla do you know her date of
birth
i would say
69
she's about 10 years older than you
yeah okay
do you have any uh scar smarts tattoos
no i mean i probably scraped up from the
plane today yeah but you're are you okay
yeah i don't care okay
um
where were you born i was born in uh
eureka well outside of eureka and little
county
california
i'm just going to put things
on
i'll color your eyes boy
[Applause]
hey
and now he won't go to bed
just put poor brogan down his throat or
something like that
oh
can you see how much energy of that yeah
let me step in the denture yeah yeah
i'll do it let me step in the next room
i'll do it right now
all right
the kid was having a meltdown let me
face time with him so he
will calm down
so i should also say that
in this again you could use against me
or whatever and i don't want to say
something that isn't true but
i had the idea that the hippie comedy
and i was at was like a cult
and so that's what i left there
so i don't know
uh
if they really are full but that was my
assumption
is that why you were going to nashville
i was going to nashville because
they're either going through a flight
crisis as you know if i charge you a
copy of the claim
and
uh i was going to go visit a college
friend
that i had not seen in the earth
who is homosexual
and
i was open to exploring that name
had you ever been to nashville before
[Music]
how'd you like seattle
well i mean the city seemed cool except
for the community
cool yeah but uh i mean obviously i felt
you know
for a few days yeah a couple friends
there oh okay so you're just normally
from eureka area well i was born in
eureka
i then moved around a bit as a kid i
went to california
[Music]
point
and
uh was out in venice for about
do you want my whole life story no
i'm always interested in looking at
people's travels
that's kind of boring because why are
you going oh yeah so anyway i was
considering myself a little from a
little all over
uh
[Music]
okay so
so uh
thanks for being on hand there
not really out of hand i just wasn't
happy obviously yeah i started hanging
out with this car
and then i thought at this point
uh
[Music]
you know
[Music]
or whatever
and so this one person is one kid
um
um
i'm off the weekend that's what i'm
saying
all right
everybody didn't change anything though
did you
add information
hey do you want this tutorial
[Music]
[Music]
now we're going to take you out now two
things we're going to unhook you so i
can
first get down put the mask on get you
ready
please behave
here one stage with the clipboard
just follow these guys
right here
go ahead you want me to leave the door
open a little bit i'll try it
i can't close it all the way though okay
just try boss
that's it
there a button somewhere
now
[Music]
let me just uh
just go right there
[Laughter]
all right
these are super simple
can you get me a bag for their
jacket in your wallet
on the back one if you have one the
center one oh then it won't fall down
right
in there
i don't know if you want the jacket in
there and then that's it all the
property that we have it's all in there
so i'm not going to put these on too
tight because obviously eating some food
yeah all right so
now all i want is
all right do me a favor
i want you to feel as comfortable as
possible
or cutting off circulation
[Music]
now this is the painful part just
because we've got a little bit of a
drive ahead of us
you're not gonna run on me or anything
i am going to put this on here this is
just an n95 mask all right i'm going to
lower your ears below your chin
they don't want you you don't have a
hair tie or anything like that no okay
just put this down
are you comfortable wearing a mask
[Music]
that's all i wanted to make sure
on you got a copy of my report right
nothing got changed
other than your guys's information
we don't have anything we don't have any
open skin wounds
there do you feel okay with that do you
want a glove on it for protection i
don't care did you wash your hand in
there yes you do okay okay that's good
those were from the flex cups that he
had on uh
[Music]
so
you start carrying voices again in your
head you let them know real quick yeah
okay
they don't need any surprises
okay last thing we need
um
so are you from here in albuquerque or
uh
a little further away a little southern
california a little bit of texas
uh i was in orange
orange and then a little bit down in san
diego yeah
it was mostly in southern california my
ex-husband was up in northern california
so like eureka reading
[Music]
if you run on me if you do anything
she is going to tackle you
all right she's a faster runner than i
am you will not outrun her
okay
so
just stay with us
act like a gentleman you're going to be
treated like a gentleman
was your door working your card
nothing works
i have no idea why
you need to come back and get that away
yeah
while i do that it's just have it
all right i am going to move that seat
up i'm going to leave this on just hit
that right here
[Music]
like i said if you start hearing
voices talking in your head let the
officers know right away okay
all right
[Music]
against it
[Music]
where's your extra long chain cup uh
right here the ankle ones
yeah right you want to put it on that
smart post process with the seat and
then copped onto his arms
no no no you can just you can cuff his
legs together yeah i just want to uh
fix that for you okay
on your hair or anything
up
all right it's probably easier to swing
your feet back around
there we go
all right
don't kick me in the face please
please
ask nicely
all right does that feel good let your
claw oh it's probably not feel good but
it's not too tight not pinching
all right
[Music]
all right
okay
you're okay you can swing your legs back
around
comfortable
let me go get my stuff are you gonna be
in this escorted out the gate you're
gonna need help no i'm i'm good i'm
gonna let us out all right
all right
[Music]
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