from this grandmother whose secret shoplifting scheme got exposed after she hid shoes in her clothes. >> You okay? You're leaking. >> Is that water? >> Yeah. >> Just beat your pants. >> What is that? >> Okay. You got to go. >> Oh, you got you got to turn towards me >> for this grandpa who was caught shoplifting with an anti- [music] theft device. >> Hey, come here. Come here. Over here. >> Can you roll my windows down? >> You're going have to go on the other side. >> He's going to roll the windows down for you. >> Thank you. >> No, I got it. >> Um, can you shine your light on this so I can just take some pictures? >> Here are several strange but true moments when grandparents realize they've been caught shoplifting. Starting with this unhinged grandpa who walked out of a high-end clothing store with a designer Ralph Lauren jacket and its hanger. >> It said that you were in the store and shoplifted some items. >> No. >> No. >> No, I didn't. >> So, you walk around with a jacket with tags still left on it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. On November the 29th, 2024, [music] just before noon, police officers with the Paramis Police Department, New Jersey, responded to a shoplifting call from Ralph Lauren after a suspect walked out wearing clothes with the tags still attached. The officers moved fast and intercepted the suspect. But the twist began when they realized that they weren't dealing with a first timer, but rather a seasoned Isle bandit who had done this once before. Okay. You live in town or no? >> You live in town? Where? Where? Where you live? What is the name of this? >> You don't know the name of >> Yeah, I know. I Because I have problem >> cuz you were you were walking down Witherspoon and then when you saw me you you turned this around. I I because this is one way here. >> I found maybe I can go. >> So he's he's telling me he was on Nassau Street. Um >> All right. So here here here's where we're at. Okay. There was a call for shoplifting over at Ralph Lauren. All right. They provided us with a description of an individual that matches your description. All right. As I'm interacting with you, I can see some clothing on you with tags still on them. So here is your opportunity to have a discussion with us about what happened. Okay. So that's where we're at. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. I was I was walking for 30 minutes. >> So, at no point did you enter Ralph Lauren at all? >> No. >> Okay. And the clothes that are on your person, they're yours? >> Yeah, >> they're yours 100%. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, the footage that they have, is it going to show me you taking anything from that shop or No. >> No. >> All right. Is there any reason why there's tags in your jacket? >> Because I I I didn't I didn't move. Like, >> let's try this again for feeling generous today. Okay. This is your opportunity to be honest with me. Okay. If you lie to me, that's a problem. If you're honest with me, I can work with that. Okay. >> I was in the NA street for 30 minutes. >> Okay. >> You were on national street for 30 minutes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Did you shop at Ralph Lauren? No. >> Did you step foot inside Lauren at all? >> No. >> Okay. Is there any reason why they're going to have footage of someone matching your description stealing items from from Ralph [music] Lauren? >> No. >> Okay. and the items that are on your person. So, they told us that this individual placed the items underneath their jacket. All right. You do have some items underneath your jacket that have tags on them. >> I mean, I I can see the tags. >> Yeah. Yeah. That I didn't move it when I were >> Where are those tags from? Where where's where are those tags from? >> He's what's on on the on the jacket. >> Right. But where what's from? >> Is that a polar rough Lauren jacket? >> I don't know. >> You don't know? You're not being very honest with me, are you? >> Yeah. >> No. Okay. You got ID on you? >> Do you have ID on you? >> So, what why don't you go ahead and take a look at your left wrist? Take a look at your left wrist. What's that say right there? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> How you doing, sir? Hey. >> Yeah. How you doing? I'm Craig. >> Nice to see you. >> Nice to see you. >> Okay. Did this officer tell you why we've stopped you here today? >> They said that you went to the shopping. >> So, we got the report of a a shoplifting from the Ralph Laurens store and Um, the manager there checked the cameras and described to us the person that matches your height, weight, color, race. Uh, gave us a pretty good description of you. >> You are not returning. >> Smoked it. >> Okay. >> You are not returning. >> Not right now. Nope. >> And, um, has it said that you were in the store and shoplifted some items? >> No. >> No. >> No, I didn't. Okay. All right. Well, we have an officer over there now. Do you understand what a camera is? >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. You know that a camera records things, right? It records >> things that things that happen. I know, right? >> So, are you saying that you don't think that you're on camera? >> No. >> Taking something from there? >> No. >> Okay. >> So, were you in that store? >> No, I was walking front of it. >> Were you in the store today? >> Front of the store. >> So, you just walked past 78. Okay. >> The old-timer knew his craft and spoke like someone who had done this before. He was carefully choosing his words, but he should have known better because no matter how smooth you sound, every crime [music] leaves a footprint behind. >> You have the opportunity to if you took something that you shouldn't have taken, just be honest about it, okay? Things are going to be better for you if you if you can be honest about things. You're going to stand here and lie to me like I like I'm a [ __ ] Things are not going to go well for you. I promise you. You pick something from the Ralph Lauren store. >> Okay. Um, who do you live with? >> My wife. >> You live with your wife. >> Do you see that you have tags here on your jacket, sir? >> Yeah. >> You see that? >> Hey, maybe maybe you need to unbutton the jacket and look. >> Take the jacket off and take a look. Where'd you get the jacket from? >> I I bought it from where they had sale. I bought it. I'm going to get your wallet for you. Okay. [snorts] >> And take it off. >> Yeah. Yeah. Take it off. >> So, you walk around with a jacket with tags still left on it. >> Okay. Do you understand that? They just called us and told us No, no, no. Listen to me. They just told us 5 minutes ago that you walked into their store, a man in this jacket, with this hat, with that cane, with those pants, those shoes, walked into the store and took that jacket without paying for it. >> Yeah. >> Do you understand how that this could be? This doesn't sound right. >> Yeah. >> You see how it doesn't sound right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you want to change your story? >> No, I don't. Not change. >> Okay. All right. Give me one second. I think we're just going to take a one second. Let me just confirm what they want. >> How old are you? How old are you? >> I am 85. I want to make contact with uh with the wife. >> Yeah. >> To see if there is something wrong. >> My wife is not here. >> Where is she? >> In Virginia. >> She's in Virginia? >> Yeah. >> Do you have her phone number? >> No. >> You don't know your wife's phone number? >> I I have I have it in my telephone. >> Where's your telephone? >> Who else do you live with? Who else do you live with at home here? No, I don't have because >> Do you live by yourself? >> No. Yeah, but my wife, she's coming to tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Why you sweating so much, man? [sighs] 54. I'm going to check every night. See if we have any medical calls or anything. Going to check every night, see if we have medical calls or anything. >> Dante, can I uh I'm going to give you this phone. Yep. >> Chad, what's your wife's phone number? >> Probably I guess. >> Where was he at? >> Where was he at? >> He was walking this way. >> Yeah. North on Weatherstone. And then >> past Green Street a little bit and then when he [music] saw me parking, he he started going down Green Street. Got his wife. Yep. What's up? Hey, Tom. >> The officers had already seen the stolen items and had their suspect. But instead of taking him straight in, they made a call to his wife because something about it didn't add up and it raised serious yet simple questions. What was a grandfather [music] doing stealing a Ralph Lauren jacket in the first place? >> Just be by your phone. If we have any other sort of questions for you, we're going to give you a call. Okay, >> no problem. Is there anybody Is there anybody in >> What's that? >> Well, I I'll let him discuss that with you at a later time. We're just uh we got we got a call for service out here for an incident that happened down um your husband may or may not be involved in. Like I said, just stay by your phone. If we have any questions, we'll let you know. Uh or we reach out to you. Is there anybody at home or in the area that can look after him or or pick him up or take care of him if need be? >> Um my neighbor. your neighbor. >> Yeah. >> What's your neighbor's name? >> I said if you have any other questions, we'll give you a call, but he'll uh he'll reach out to you after we're done here. Okay. >> Sir, can I have that jacket, please? >> All right. >> Thank you, ma'am. This doesn't belong to me. >> You understand that, right? Who does this jacket belong to? >> I think from Jack >> [music and bell] >> All right, you're good. Um, he's going to go. >> Okay. >> All right. What did uh what did wife say? So when neighbor came up with he >> he can go in the front. >> We're going to put the handcuffs in the front. >> I'll do the front. Okay. >> Listen, you can't take things that don't belong to you. Okay? You can't take them and then not pay for them. Okay? The store recognized you as having been there in the past and having taken things as well. Okay. >> One under. >> All right. What do you do? You have anything on you that's going to poke me or stick me or anything? >> No. >> No. I have to search it though. Okay. I know it's cold, so we'll put this stuff all back on. What's this? >> Huh? >> What's this? >> Oh, this is along pretty. >> This a hanger? >> Yeah. Hang. My son is police officer in San Francisco. >> Is he? >> Yes. >> He probably wouldn't be happy to hear that you >> already. Yeah. He he he's going to probably take Did >> you have a nice Thanksgiving? >> No. >> Not good. >> That's a bummer. >> I couldn't sleep through the night. >> I cannot sleep. Strong. Not even >> what happens. >> Oh, what is it? What stere here's how it's going to go today. Okay. You still hold on. >> Did you steal this, too? >> Yeah. This is about this. No, no, no. That is belong to me. Those two belong to >> There's a barber store right on Palmer's. >> But but not this one. Not to those belong to me. Long time. I bought it. Yeah. >> Yeah. We We'll find out. >> The officers had just uncovered another item that didn't quite fit. And it completely outed the whole image, indicating that this was either bigger than anyone initially thought it was or they were only just starting to see [music] the real story. >> Let me ask you a question. What is that? What does that uh hanger sound? >> Any identifying marks on it? >> 383 81 383. >> I'm going to take these off. Take this off. See what else we got. Is it Is it Where is this from? >> M from London. >> This is from London. >> My son bought it for me. Um the wood. Okay. Take this jacket off. Take this off. >> Cool. >> Take this. Take this green one off. Yep. >> Yes. Now, where's this from? Barber, too. Take them both off. >> Well, no, this is from London, >> sir. >> Uh, bring it to you right now. So, fill out fill out a >> There's still instructions in here, man. Take the jacket off. >> Instruction? Yeah. I I >> take it off. >> I don't I don't >> take it off. >> Hey, do it off. Body down. >> They don't have here in in the United. We will verify. Okay. But that's Barber. That's Barber. That's the thing has instructions in it. Okay. >> Yeah. Just make sure it's on camera. All right. >> Tag on everything. There's instructions like an instruction tag inside. >> Yeah. Instruction. This is They don't have it. They will. figure that out. Okay. >> You're not being very honest with me. >> Okay. >> And these pants. Where are these pants from? >> This pants? >> Yep. >> This pants long time I have. >> Why is there a tag on? >> Yeah. I don't I don't remove the tag. >> Okay. >> Because long two three years I wearing this. >> Even I made this one shorter myself. >> Okay. >> We'll take a walk. All right. I know it's cold. I got you. >> Yeah. So, that's all getting done. We're We're going out there to bag everything. >> Yeah. All right. Watch your head. Sit up. Sit back. There you go. >> I'm sorry. You're walking right into this. >> No, no, no. You're good. He's telling me he's going to take the report for you. get him started with. >> Yeah, I'll process. >> Being processed and uh I want to get out of here. >> Yeah. Yeah, I got you. >> In the end, the man was charged with shoplifting. The last grandpa shoplifter was a wild breed, but he had nothing on this grandmother whose rebellious actions came with serious consequences after she left a seasoned officer stunned by the sheer size of her well-marked hall. >> I have money. I don't know why I'm I'm being detained. >> Guys, there's some items you didn't pay for it. I'll get that up. >> Please don't arrest me. Um, please will you guys just let me pay for it so I can pay most of it. I was NOT TRYING TO STEAL >> OVER A THOUSAND. That is the first time I've ever dealt with somebody stealing that much items from the store. >> On March the 30th, 2023, officers responded to a Walmart in Los Cruus, New Mexico for a suspected shoplifter who was behaving oddly. As loss prevention reviewed surveillance footage, her odd behavior turned a routine situation into a traumatic encounter. >> So, she's paid for a few items. [music] >> Like HBI, this bag, a few items in this bag, and maybe some stuff in these two bags. >> Are those her bags or those [music] Walmart selection bags? >> They look new, but there is a lot of trash and garbage in the bottom. [music] The blue duff bag is where it was empty and then she's >> I get maintenance to electronics for a spill, [music] please. >> She might get some maintenance before somebody falls. >> This wasn't her first runin. With a past conviction [music] for embezzling $20,000, she already had a history with the law. But for now, she had made her way to the parking lot, clearly trying to [music] slip away from both loss prevention and the law. >> Come here for me. >> Come here for me. >> Cuz they're saying you took items without paying. We'll get it figured out. >> No, I paid for everything. >> We'll figure it out. Relax. >> Well, why are you going to put you in cuffs for now to get you back to the office? All right. Relax. Cuz they're saying you didn't pay for some of the items. >> I paid for it. >> Okay, stop moving. Please shut up. >> So why are you handcuffing me? >> Because you're being detained. Why? >> Because you took stuff without me. >> I don't take anything. >> Okay, we'll get it figured out. >> If you did, you did. You got the receipts. >> Why am I being detained? >> Because you have items you did not pay for. >> I left it. [music] I paid >> Why am I being detained? >> Stop. Relax. >> I'm kidding. >> I already explained it to you. Stop asking me the same question. >> I have money. I don't know why I'm I'm being detained. >> Okay, there's somebody you didn't pay for. Put you down. >> Eventually, the officer brought her back into the [music] loss prevention office, but her behavior raised some serious questions. She appeared [music] disoriented and at one point, she even urinated on herself while carrying around empty nylon bags. This left the officers wondering what was really going on [music] and left them wondering whether she was trying to make herself very unapproachable or if she genuinely needed help, prompting them to take [music] a closer look. >> I have money. If this isn't my girlfriend, she's called she's somewhere. She just called me and so that's why I was in the rush. I'm not trying not I don't want no problems. I'm not trying to steal anything or nothing you have. >> Yes, there this this is the bag for me. this receipt. There's a few items that she did pay for a wall unit and >> he's setting it aside in another shopping cart right there. You got a lot of stuff in there. >> This is garbage. My per That's [music] okay. >> No report. I'm really trying. I don't want no trouble or anything. I haven't paid or whatever. My girlfriend, she called me from these bags. You put nothing in here that's going to >> There shouldn't be. I don't think >> nothing. Not that I know of. >> See, here's the thing. Um, you already passed the final sale. Okay. I ain't really trespassing. >> Well, I'm ready. I'll pay for it. >> So, and like I said, you already passed the final set. Okay. I got no registers out there parking lot. Okay. So, what's going to happen is I'm going to get the rest of the stuff that's not paid for. Will you get a total >> and I didn't just pay for it? >> No, that's not an option now. >> Why not? >> Because you have the opportunity. You wanted to play around and act like you didn't do anything wrong and then [music] you admitted that you took stuff without paying for it when I was bringing you back over here. >> I bet I wasn't trying. My girlfriend's waiting for me. That's why I was trying to be in a hurry to get out there. >> But I I can pay. I want to pay for whatever. >> You're going to get cited >> for the shoplifting and the trespassing if that's all it is. >> Oh, okay. So, I'll just be >> Her excuses didn't hold up. And judging by the volume of stolen [music] merchandise, this was already shaping up to be more than a simple citation. Plus, prevention had seen enough to know that it ran deeper, but even then, [music] they were only scratching the surface of what was really going on. >> That was my other. That one was >> I was not trying to bring it up. >> Oh, >> no. Not Not as in she's bringing it up. You're paying for it. She's getting a total for me. >> And I'll be able to pay for it. >> No, you're not doing that. You're not. That is not the optimal. >> Why not? because you took a bunch of stuff and >> I was not intending trying to steal. I was just trying to reach out to my girlfriend. I was not trying. >> Well, you can argue that when we go to court for it. >> Like I said, if it's over $500, then you'll be going to jail. If it's under $500, you'll be in sight. Go. >> Explain that when you get to the judge. Okay. But for today, right, depending the amount, like Officer Moser stated, you're going to get either citation for the shopping and trespassing or if it's over felony amount, you will be going to jail. That's where we're at right now. >> Will you make it just to where I decided and I will pay you. >> Oh, ma'am, I can't do that. I didn't decide drop. Okay. >> I was not trying to shoplift. My girlfriend called me. >> She's like, "Where are you? Where are you? Someone in the parking lot. I was not trying to steal once said you'll have your your day in court. Okay? You can tell all that to the judge, but for today you're going to go based on your mouth. Okay? >> Okay? If you just let me pay so I don't go to jail, please. I'm begging you. I have the money. I'm willing to pay. I was not trying to steal from you guys. I had a brain underneath that we pretty messed up. I'm not very functional and it's only because of my husband didn't like me. >> I'm like able [music] to get around and stuff. >> Your girlfriend's still in the parking lot. >> She should. May I get my phone so I can use >> in a minute? >> Can you make sure nobody misses that? >> Yeah. No, but nobody's going to take right here. >> They've stolen stolen my phone. I had like six phone tablet. They were stolen everything. I got over in that vacant lot. Hopefully they haven't stolen cuz it's all everything that my husband and I got left. what they haven't stolen so far. >> Hold on. How much is it? Let's take a photo of this real quick. >> 1400. >> 1,400. Am I good taking these copies or you need them? >> No, you can help. >> Okay. Um, call your girlfriend real quick and see if she's still here. We'll get her phone. >> Okay. Thank you. Did >> you get Oliver? >> She's already on the other side of town. >> The volume of stolen items made it clear that this was [music] not an accident. And her story only kept unraveling. First, a missing girlfriend, then talk of a husband. The details kept evolving like she couldn't [music] keep them straight. At that point, it wasn't just suspicious, it was falling apart in real time, and whatever game she thought she was playing was quickly catching up to her. >> Please don't arrest. >> What was the deal? I said, if you cooperate, I take the handcuffs off. Now you're being uncooperative. Get up. Please don't arrest me. Um, please will you guys just let me pay for it. Please, sir. I was not trying to steal from you guys. >> I said earlier that point. >> I was not trying to steal from you guys. I was only trying to rush out to my brother in the parking lot. >> Relax. You need to start raising your voice. >> Please just let me pay you for it. I was not trying to steal. >> You don't even have enough money to cover it anyway. So, Don't even mention it. >> Almost enough. I can pay most of it. I was NOT TRYING TO STEAL. I WAS ONLY TRYING TO GET TO MY GIRLFRIEND. >> PLEASE. I was not trying to steal from them. >> Look at me. Look at me. >> I was not trying. >> This is going to be painful. This is going to be painful if you do not cooperate with me. Do you understand? >> I was not trying to steal. Please don't arrest me. >> It's what it is right now. You're not changing anything. Nothing is changing. All that's going to happen is if you keep acting this way, things are only going to get worse for you. >> I was not trying to steal. >> It doesn't matter at this point. I'm not going to talk to you about that right now. >> I have to do what I have to do at this point. That is over $1,000 of groceries. Over a,000. [music] That is the first time I've ever dealt with somebody stealing that much items from the store. >> I was not trying to steal. >> We got to go. Let's go to my cart. I got to do paperwork. I said, "Please, >> please put your feet in. Please, sir. >> Put your feet in. Please put your feet in. I have the money to pay for it. Please >> put your feet in. Put your feet in. Please don't arrest me. Please >> put your feet in. Please put your feet in. >> I'm going to lose everything. >> Burn your feet. >> Please. I was not trying to stay. >> Move your foot. >> Move your foot. Okay. >> What are you doing? >> Doing the paperwork. >> For what? >> What do you mean for what? For your charges. >> Please don't arrest me. I wasn't trying to steal. I have the money to [crying] pay for it. Please. I wasn't trying to steal. >> Why are you doing that? They're trying to steal. >> In the end, she was charged with a fourthderee felony for shoplifting and criminal trespassing. Next, we head to Orlando where a grandmother panicked and peed on herself as the secret things she had done inside the Victoria Secret store quickly came back to haunt her. [snorts] >> Did your pants? >> What is that? >> Oh boy. Okay. >> Okay. >> Where was she? >> Tourist Grand Express. How do you feel? >> On August the 17th, 2023, just as the sun was clocking out for the day, officers with the Orlando Police Department responded to a shoplifting call at the Orlando Premium Outlets. The officers arrived promptly and located the suspect in the establishment. But who their suspect turned out to be made it clear that this was not going to be a simple stop. The seasoned shoplifter had more unpleasant surprises in store than a magic show that had gone rogue. going to be right at the corner of >> Excuse me, ma'am. >> Orlando, please. I need you to stop. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Can you just put the bag down, please? >> Can you put the bag down, please? >> Okay. Put this bag down, please. You speak English? >> No, I'm puppy. >> Okay. You okay? You're leaking. >> Is that water? >> Yeah. No. >> Yeah. >> You speak your pants? >> What is that? >> Oh, boy. Okay. Why did you keep it? >> Okay, stop. Stop moving. Stop moving. Thank you. >> The urine on her body could have pointed to panic or a possible medical issue, but neither explanation came close to explaining what officers were about to uncover on someone's abil right here. Okay. Go to this bench right here. >> See you right here. Okay. >> Right here. Okay. >> Okay. >> Hold on. There's just a shoe here. >> Hold on. We're getting somebody to speak Spanish. Hold on. >> I literally just saw a shoe. I just had >> okay mark 75 mark 75 semi 64 number 875. >> Okay. You got a lot of stuff in here. She she legit beat herself. >> Just leaking. >> I'm just I'm just I'm giving you fair work. That's all I'm doing. Jack and Jack and Jack. Jack check. >> Anybody got gloves? >> I can get some on my car. Yeah, if you could cuz Yeah, >> like there there's stuff like like stuffed in here into this jacket. >> Oh, I've never seen that. >> So, I'm going to document this. room. >> Jack. >> All right. What's your question? >> I'm going to see These items, Jamie and Jack items and room items were all found in this leopard bag. >> With the sheer volume of items that had already been discovered, it was clear that this was a well planned scheme. There were signs of a calculated move. whether she planned to resell them on the black market or had something else in mind. >> Oh god. >> That's D and Taylor Loft. >> Okay. >> And then this is all Jamie and Jack. >> Okay. >> Hey, you got close. Let's use it. See it right here. >> Where? >> Right there. >> Okay. You have a shoe under your shirt. >> Okay. >> I need to grab this shoe that is under your shirt >> or it's in your pants. >> Sit up. >> Wait until >> Okay. Sit. Sit up. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. Cuz you have literally a shoe in your pants. I'm I'm tell I'm I'm telling you there's a shoe in your pants. Literally that same that shoe the the the sister to that shoe is in your pants. >> The brother the brother >> the sibling to that shoe is in your pants. >> We don't we don't speak Spanish. >> I don't speak Spanish like that. I'm sorry. >> No aba espanol. >> No >> me no aba. only >> italiano. >> Do you want me to remove that from her or if we can talk to her? She's asking she's being arrested. See She was going to turn all that stuff here. No. >> No. Not okay. Not okay. Yeah, I think. Okay. But all that bag is hers. All this going back. >> Oh, so she took all that stuff. No, mommy. After the officers handed over the stolen merchandise and gathered statements from the stores, a Spanish-sp speakaking officer stepped [music] in to assist with interviewing the suspect. >> What was the purpose of her coming to the >> to return clothes? Why were there? And >> she's saying that she only took the shoes. Why were there clothing? He says it probably would have been because the jack was inside her bag and they probably just went in the jacket. >> They were like >> somehow magic. >> What stores did she go into? She only entered the shoe store. Okay. Since she said that she was returning clothing, where was she returning clothes at? Victoria Secret Victoria Secret Express. >> So why does she have Jamie and Jack items? >> What kind of items? >> J and Jack. >> She was going to return those stuff for her granddaughter as well. Okay. Okay. >> Tags on them, right? >> Thank you. >> The secret things [music] she did at the Victoria's Secret Outlet and other stores had come back to haunt her. And soon that realization brought out a version of her that the officers were yet to see. How do you feel? Face >> the car. Um, did she serge her? Yeah. Okay. your receipt. Thank you. 919 23 303 584 303 584 >> Express Alpha Yankee 03 Uniform Juliet John Young and Baptist white. >> Yeah. [music] >> Your head hurts. She's saying >> Okay, you got to >> Okay, you got to smell like piss. >> Oh, you got you got to turn towards me. You got to turn your back. Are you guys working with one finger in or no? >> Oh my god. Okay. Okay. Calm down. >> We're good. >> You got You got to turn your body more. >> Okay. Well, you got to work with me here. >> 2023 303 614 33. >> You have to keep your hand turned this way. Is that better? >> Okay. >> In the end, she was charged with fourthderee felony for shoplifting. As wild as that last grandma was, she was just a beginner compared to this grandpa who really thought his feeble limbs could outrun the law after shoplifting with an anti- theft device. >> Come here. Over here. >> Like you you got a giant behind you. Why would you try to run? >> Can you please turn the air on? >> Yeah. Can you roll my windows on? >> That was like 13 or $1,400 worth of stuff. On April the 12th, [music] 2024, just before 1000 p.m., the Boon Beach Police Department were called by Target loss prevention about a shoplifting that was in progress. The responding officers arrived just in time to secure the perimeter and patiently [music] waited outside the store. Their eyes were peeled and hands ready. The officers had the element of surprise on their side, but the suspect was an old-timer who seemed to think that he had everything planned out. >> Hey, come here. >> Come here. over a hand behind your back. Put the other hand behind your back right now. >> Dude, really? >> What do you think was going to happen? >> Like you you got a giant behind you. Why would you try to run? I know. Sorry. >> Now you're getting a whole bunch of charges. >> Oh, come on. >> You went from probably getting a ticket in NTA to you're definitely going to jail. >> Oh, come on. >> We already did our cardio for the day. We don't need another workout. >> Just walk. Can >> I grab my stuff, please? >> Let's go walk over and charge it. Bring over my dashboard. >> 54 Toyota. >> I don't know. Or is it in the bottom? The bottom. >> Hey, make can y'all make sure you check them before you put them in there. Look. >> Oh, he taped it. >> I didn't think >> he didn't get far. >> No, he didn't. Three, four steps equals one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dispatch was like, "How do you know he's going to steal?" I'm like, "I know he's going to steal." >> Running from the police is illegal. You know that, right? It's not smart, man. Nons'more. >> Huh? >> Please put that inside the water. >> Inside what? >> Inside the container. >> That's everything I ever [ __ ] >> I'll take care of. >> Have a seat, man. We'll take We're not leaving yet. Don't worry. >> You literally >> Did you walk after him? cuz I saw these giant step. >> I was like, why would you run with a giant right behind you? >> Like, why is he running? >> Um, let's just dump it all right here so we can see what all it is and then we'll uh >> you guys want to see everything that's on it first. Or you can throw it on. >> Yeah. This is a lot of stuff. Whatever. >> You got a lot. >> What are you stealing from thumb drive? You want to go? I'll stay with him and you want to go get him for him real quick or go inside. Doesn't matter to me. >> Yeah. >> So, we paid for guarantee. This is going to be a >> Oh, yeah. Just the >> Yeah, that's his prop. >> Can I grab the box? >> Yeah. I'm trying to empty. I don't even know. >> Is this yours? >> He took that to take the box. >> Did he pay for it or he? >> No. >> The moment the suspects tried to run, it was clear that this was not ending with a simple warning or citation anymore. Soon, one of the responding officers stepped into the store to gather details. The same details that would determine just how much of a mess he had greedily gotten himself into. [snorts] >> Way too many push outs today. You get another one. >> So, you paid for this, so I won't >> Where's the lamp at? >> No. Oh, he probably put it back over there. >> 16. >> Can you get the thing? Is there >> Oh, yeah. He does have a key to open these on him. >> He has a one of those things that opens. >> Yeah, he has one of these. >> We have tools. Possession tools of a crime. So, this >> All right. So, just to confirm, it's 1355.95 without tax. >> Correct. >> So, two Mag Safe Apple chargers. put two Samsung Galaxy A14 5G cell phones. Is that what it is? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> What's Logitech? >> Looks like a webcam. >> Is it two of these? >> Two digital iPad pencils. Two twobits, >> two purebased JBL >> earbuds webcam. >> There's two of them. Wait, there's two of them. It's a like a SD card or something. >> Uh, let me thumb drive. >> Did you try this steal the tape, too? >> But he used the tape to tape the box. Uh, >> but yeah. >> Um, he grabbed that lamp box. uh takes the items out of the out of the we call it keeper person size protection. Shoveves them into the box. Uh meanwhile, I'm on the phone with PD the whole time. Uh let them know what's going on. He goes to selfch checkckout, pays for the lamp. >> The officers thought that they had everything they needed. That changed quickly when they uncovered something else, revealing the veteran offender [music] wasn't new to this game at all. >> Huh? Can you please turn the air on? >> Yeah. Can you roll my windows in? You're going to have to He's going to roll the windows down. >> Thank you. >> It's hot back there. >> You going to roll the windows down. >> So, you have something else on your >> Yeah. So, this right here, he takes those two cones like They go right on the >> You have a razor blade. >> It's the box cutter. >> Or the box cutter. >> Okay. >> No, I got it. >> Um, can you shine your light on this so I can just take some pictures that way? >> I never seen one of those before. >> Why' you >> All right, man. Just to let you know, you already know you're a grown man. You know, running from the police, not the smartest thing to do. Okay. >> So, for future reference, I would not run through the police. Okay. Everybody makes mistakes. It's all good. >> You are being charged with it, though. Okay. >> The the shoplifting, the the retail theft, >> that was a felony. >> That was like 13 or $1,400 worth of stuff, >> was it? >> Yeah. >> In the end, he was charged with felony shoplifting as well as evading. Next up is this grandmother who turned unruly the moment she realized she couldn't charm her way out of the consequences of her stealing anymore. >> I didn't steal. I never even made it out the automatic door. I'm I'm tired. >> Whoever's been coming at me kind of crazy after coming to me. You're crazy. Whoopsie [ __ ] >> They just said that this is the third time that you've been here. >> Why don't you watch again? >> On November the 17th, 2022, officers responded to a local Walmart in Athens, Georgia. the classic city where loss prevention had already stopped [music] a seemingly sweet and innocent looking 55year-old woman for trying to pull off a five finger discount. >> Hello. [snorts] >> How you doing? >> I'm just put a drop. >> Frazzle. >> Frazzle. Gotcha. >> I'm so worn out. I'm sorry. I'm I'm not thinking clearly. >> Okay. >> I've been having a lot of pressure coming down. I can't do >> just life pressures that kind of thing. >> It's it's got me all >> I mean it's got no >> Mhm. >> what's going on. >> I got you. You don't have any ID on you by chance, do you? >> No, I had I've had four sets since I moved to Athens. And all four sets are gone. Okay. >> Somebody I was at the shelter, the picnic shelter the other night and somebody got my last cop my last set. Sheriff's association. >> I got you. She said she gave everything back, but we rearch yet. >> Okay. >> I don't have anything else from >> Yeah, we'll do that dirt and trying to figure out. >> Gotcha. out. >> So, you said you already gave everything back. >> What's that? >> You said you already gave everything back? >> Yes, she got the bottle. >> She got you back. Okay. >> Well, I'm going to take this. >> Oh, okay. I didn't even know that was in there. Like I said, my head is spinning >> around and around and around. >> Uh-huh. >> Somebody's been coming at me so hard. That's cheese. Macaroni and cheese. >> Okay. I was hungry. >> So, you knew what this was. You just didn't know the other thing was in there. >> No. >> Right. Okay. >> Like I said, I've been I'm I'm just warned to pepper razle. I mean, really warm. >> Yeah. >> You go get a bag or take that. >> Have anything in it, but some piece of sunb belt. Bar piece of candy. >> That's not what candy is. Not candy, but not that. You know, it's something else or whatever. A piece of granola bar or whatever. Healthy bar. >> I thought it was a shoe. >> I want a sweet girl. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Is this a soft? >> We don't carry any. We do >> carry what? >> A nasty. I do not. >> No, that's Goodwill. Okay. Been shopping at Goodwill. >> Yeah. Just like you said, I've been working some different jobs. >> Mhm. >> Just picking up odd jobs here and there. >> Okay. >> I don't think they sell that at Goodwill. Where'd you get >> those? >> Just Yeah, they leave it for us. >> I got you. I got you. Okay. I haven't eaten quite a while. >> I got you. I check it every now and then. >> Yeah. >> All her stuff that she was sleeping on. >> It's that dark. I think you should start when I turn. >> This go in here. >> Okay. >> So, it's like 24 hours. >> He just walked in. >> Who? or you really got the gift. >> So, they got >> I've got >> Yeah, she gave to me, >> huh? Like 100 bucks 97. >> When was the last time you were arrested? >> Uh, the other day for obstruction. Um, what was it for? Oh, can't even remember. I don't know. I'm so tired. I can't >> I got you. >> I'm I apologize. I'm >> very worn. >> Me, too. >> You get that way, too? >> That way with you. >> Smell cheese books. >> After a thorough sweep of everything she had on her, which looked more like store inventory than personal items. The officers eventually decided to take things to the next level. >> Your stuff. You all know about it. >> Well, I thought it was like my front pocket like this. Oh, shave off. >> All right, you take that off. >> Yeah, >> okay. So, go ahead and turn around and put your hands behind your back. >> I'm not >> You are Yes, >> ma'am. You have pending charges. Well, >> for what? >> You have open cases. That's That's the reason. Are these theirs or yours, sweetie? >> We aren't coming back. >> I understand that. >> No, we aren't coming back cuz y'all did me again. >> Well, we didn't do you in >> Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. That's it. We aren't coming back. >> Go ahead and shut this Walmart down. Yes. >> Walmart runs just fine, baby. >> Yes. My ex-husband says crime. You go ahead and shut this down, too. All of you shut this town up. >> We'll shut it down just for >> No, we are. >> We are going to shut it down. >> We definitely are. >> I know. That's what I said. >> Definitely. >> Hold on. Hold on. Where you going? >> Get all your stuff out of here, too. >> Y'all just done for taking all my stuff again. You do it to me every time you take all my things. >> You're taking it with you. You're taking it with you. Your stuff goes with you, just not the stolen stuff. >> Could you get my cigar chip down there, please? Like that. >> This watch in there without a phone call for days, two weeks the last time and the other day. You're right. Our rights have been violated. We aren't coming back to this country. >> But we didn't steal, baby. >> I didn't steal. I never even made it out the automatic door. I'm I'm tired. It was the intent. >> Whoever's been coming at me Okay, fine. >> Keep walking. >> Uh, if you don't mind transporting, I still got to try to get over there and do EDI. >> Y'all go ahead and walk. Get them off. >> Oh, y'all. >> Same time right here. >> Oh, y'all right here. She has not been searched all the way yet. So if you want to pat her down for me, >> go ahead and take them all out back. What are we taking out back? >> Y'all us down for me. Go ahead and laugh. Y'all going out back. >> What? Talk. >> You're doing a great job, Morgan. >> Trying. Trying. >> How's it going? It's going. If I can get over there and get EWI done before >> before 5, I'll be good. >> What you got to do before 5? >> EWI sign warrants >> hopefully. That way I don't have to come back till 7. >> The officers eventually drove her to face the consequences. And by then she seemed to realize that being polite or cooperative was not going to make the situation [music] disappear. So instead, she pivoted and what she chose to show the officers next was something [music] else entirely. >> What do you want me to say? >> Okay. Can we push these up on your nose a little bit? >> No, don't touch them. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I was just trying to be nice. Right over here. Stand at this door for me. >> Stand at the door for me. >> What? >> Y'all forget. >> Okay. Go to that door for me. >> Call finished. I don't care if you are Terry Bradshaw. You can't play football. >> Well, too bad I'm a girl. >> Yeah. Too [music] bad. I didn't play football. >> You know, we don't care who gets whooped or whipped up. It's all y focus. As far as Morgan goes or whatever, Cameron and Morgan can go to hell, too. >> Who's that? >> Call. >> Who's that? >> So, my brother. >> Oh, all right. [music] >> Y'all can be kind of crazy. >> Kind of crazy. Everybody come to me. You're crazy. Whoopsie [ __ ] [music] Every 5 minutes. >> I didn't say you were crazy. I said that'd be crazy to close the town down. >> Well, I will. >> Okay. Huh? >> He'll get the good or you'll get the bad or whatever. Not anymore. It's finished. >> It's finished. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> The biblical and the church is finished. >> The Catholic, the big church, cardinals, padres, all that. It's finished. That's what y'all know. >> Okay. Well, I don't go there. >> Badgers are bad anymore. >> That's not where I attend. >> It doesn't matter. It's the highest church there is. >> Not anymore. Yes, it is. >> What did you say? >> I was talking to them. >> It's my third time. What? >> Here. >> Here at the jail. >> What does that mean? >> They just said that this is the third time that you've been here. >> Oh, good. You could watch Shack Addiction. [laughter] Granny >> up against that wall. >> The wall on the door. >> The last granny was wild, but she had nothing on this 80-year-old who believed that her charm, a few well-timed tears, and some selective memory loss could somehow erase the fact that she [music] had just been caught lifting jewelry in broad daylight like a seasoned pro. >> I've been in trouble before with you in here. >> In the past, have you been trespassed from this Target before? >> Yes. >> Okay. What were you trespassed for? for taking something. >> Be truthful to us. >> I am being truthful. I didn't know I took it. >> I had no idea. >> On the 27th of February, 2024, officers received a call from Target regarding an active shoplifter. Loss prevention had her in their sights, watching every move as she stuffed valuable jewelry into her purse. This should have been a routine arrest, but it quickly turned unbelievable because the suspect wasn't just any grandma. She looked old enough to have been there when the first bricks of the Great Wall of China were laid. >> Excuse me, >> man. I didn't know where it was. I told the girl. >> Okay. first, please. >> Sure. This is it. >> I didn't know what it was. I wanted to be sure and I paid for it here to receive. >> We're going to ask you a few questions. Okay. But before we do, I'm just going to read you your Miranda rightites. >> All right. >> I'm sorry. >> Before we ask you some questions, I'm just going to read you your Miranda rightites. Okay. >> Yes. I've seen trouble before with you. >> You have the right to remain silent. >> Soon after reciting her Miranda rights, the officer started asking the important questions. And just like that, the grandmother turned to a toddler who was caught red-handed in the cookie jar. >> Are you willing to talk to me? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, in the past, have you been >> Yes. >> In the past, have you been trespassed from this target before? >> Yes. >> Okay. What were you trespass for? >> Taking something. >> Okay. >> And what brings you back here? >> I did what I had to do when I like shopping here. >> Okay. Will you explain the trespass warning? >> I called and they said it was okay. >> Called who? Whoever is responsible a long time ago. >> When were you trespassed? >> It's been a few years. >> Do you have anything on paper that says your trespass has been lifted? >> No. >> Any kind of documentation to prove that your trespass was lifted? >> No. >> Okay. >> I call though. >> Did you steal anything today? >> Say again. >> Did you steal anything today? >> No. >> Did you open any packages today? Which one? That one? >> Yes. Did you open any other packages? >> No. >> Where are the other rings that are in it? >> No. Not that I know them unless it fell out. >> Did you take anything from these packages? >> No, >> I just opened that one to be sure of what it was because I wasn't sure and I told her before I paid for it. >> Okay. So, we're not going to find the missing earrings in your pockets or anything. >> No, there's not earrings. They're they're stick on things. >> Okay. But we're not going to find those items in your purse. >> Not that I know. >> These are earrings. >> They are. I know. Now I know. >> Okay. So, we're not going to find the missing ones. >> They're missing. So Joanna, what what we're referencing, we saw on camera and in person, you open these packages and there was multiple times where these items fell on the floor. Hold on, let me finish where you had to physically bend down to pick them up. Where are those? >> I probably put it back in there. >> There any paid for those? >> This package was opened. Was this paid for? >> Yes. >> Okay. I I gave you the receipt. Here's the receipt. $19.99. I think >> if you want to go over the receipt with Yeah. Got Q-tips and then Carefree pads. >> I didn't know. >> I didn't know. It still has the the >> white markings on it >> that we know the answers to. We're hoping you're going to be honest with us here cuz this is not the first time we've dealt with you. >> I know that. >> So then we're not trying to pull your bag or pull any tricks on you. >> I did put it back >> in your purse. >> And you put it in your purse, man. >> And then you did not pay for those items and you walked past the final points of sale out to the parking lot. 23rd of 2021. You were issued a trespass warning notifying you that you are no longer welcome onto this property. Okay. Do you remember this? >> Not that I wasn't welcome here. After I I went and >> Did the deputy explain what this is? >> You were issued a piece of paper. It looked just like this, but it was a pink copy. The deputy explained that you're no longer allowed on this property inside and on the parking lot property. >> I had called. Okay. And just like he was saying earlier, do you have any proof as to that you called and you were allowed to come back? >> No, I've been coming here for a couple of years. >> We have no indication saying that you are welcome back onto this property. Okay. So, right now, you are currently trespassing according to this trespass warning. >> I'm sorry. >> I'm not I'm still not welcome here. >> The trespass warning has has not been lifted. It has no expiration. >> How do How do you do that? You have to contact it. >> And you have to get full documentation proving that you are allowed to come back here and that this trespass warrant has been lifted. >> I have to have it in writing here. >> Yes, ma'am. And you have to have signatures from the Target themselves. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And also, like he was saying, we have you in person and on camera opening up this package and collecting two items out of this, the earrings, and putting them into your purse. So far, she had gone along like an angel at first, but once the officers hit the heart of the situation, her mask slipped, revealing a granny full of tricks, halftruths, and wild stories. >> They couldn't be in the purse. >> I know. I on the floor and I put it back. >> These earrings have these little white things on the floor. >> Best secure them in this package. This earring still has the >> This one came out of your purse. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm sorry. >> We're just trying to have you be truthful to us. >> I am being truthful. I didn't know. >> I had no idea. >> Do you have pockets on that jacket? >> No. >> Do you have pockets in your pants? >> No. >> Are you wearing any of the ear uh the rings or anything? >> No, these are mine. Okay. Do you happen to walk past the the aisle? >> I don't see which which aisle she dropped those items. See if there was >> Yeah, it was actually time dispatched. So, I hope it's in the notes of the time stamp, but um every the two times that I saw her drop them on the floor, she picked them back up. So, both of the earrings. So, there's still one earring. >> I can go to those two spots just to make sure. >> Yeah, if you don't mind because we're we're missing one. under arrest. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Please don't do this right now. >> Let's see what they have. >> My husband just had a stroke. He had >> You guys have the uh the statement paperwork and the willingness to prosecute paperwork. Anything like that? >> A bunch of on the floor. >> On the floor. >> Yeah, that was on the second of the two instances. I was going with the snatch at that point, too. >> Yeah. Cool. >> I did not take it intentionally. It might have fallen in my purse. I put my >> We located the uh the other earring on the floor. Do you guys want to pursue charges on the trespassing? >> On the Yeah. >> Okay. Do you guys want to pursue charges on the the one earring that was removed from the box? >> Taylor. >> Taylor. Okay. >> Awesome. >> My husband is 85 and I'm very forgetful. >> Yeah, I apologize for that. I mean, we've had children in here as young as 10 years old. >> I know. >> I don't I don't really discriminate when it comes to shopping. People come in all shapes and sizes. >> I didn't do anything. >> What do you mean? You pulled it out of your purse. >> I didn't put it in there. It might have fallen in there, but I didn't put it. >> The beauty of >> I did drop. >> Listen. Listen. The beauty of America is that there will be your time in court. That time, >> this is not a courtroom. >> No. >> What are you looking for? >> Can you please tell me what you're looking >> driver's license? >> They're getting the statement done right now. Believe me, >> they still have brochure, but I can give them a case number. >> No, it was right there in front of me. >> I was holding it half the time and I was I had it in the car for a while. I didn't was not intentional. Charlie 223 to type. >> Really? I wouldn't do that. It wasn't even an expensive. That's why I didn't put it back >> because I'm allergic to that. >> It doesn't The price isn't real. >> What's my 1040? >> Can I do anything? >> No. >> Can you let me come to work here or something? >> Can I work? I will. I used to be in sales. I used to >> be in the medical field twice now is not going to let you work here. That's not >> But I didn't steal it. >> Thank you. >> This isn't the good old days where you worked off your >> juvenile. Now I did. >> Noy when I was younger. To make sure her story held water, the officers took things a step further and honestly hoped this entitled granny didn't have any more surprises tucked away like expired mints in a purse. >> Yes. >> Do you want to return it? >> Do you want to return these items? >> You guys, they're not they're not going to they're not going to take it up to jail. >> Which which card did you use? >> I don't want to go to jail, please. >> We're not going to go back and forth. Which card did you use to pay for the items? the uh the target card. I believe >> this one. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Is there a pin number to go along with that? >> Yes. >> Let's go do a return of the register. >> You going to take all >> Please don't do this. I have watch. >> No, you don't. I watch you zoom to the side. >> I can use the car when I lean on the car. >> Okay. >> Return. >> Okay. Everything here. >> Um, no. I'll go ahead and put the return receipt on that. All right, man. We're going to walk back to the store. We're going back in the same room. Man, this is going back in your wallet. Okay. >> Yes. >> I have that for protection. >> I do. >> We had a close friend up in New York and in the shopping center that was near our home. It was a knife slasher that was slashing women's legs underneath the cars. >> Are you able to um get the video? >> Yeah, >> we got to >> Perfect. And uh >> a receipt for the uh item. >> Yeah, for sure. You want it for just that one box, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. >> Want you guys? >> Yeah. >> Is that package >> right there in that tube? Sorry. >> You're good. >> Yeah. >> I'll be back later. >> He didn't get the yellow. >> It's fine. I'll be back. >> Is there a approximate uh value of the year on the witness statement? >> There will be. The training receipt. I'll just wait. >> Okay. No problem. matches what you guys have. >> Perfect. >> And I'm not allowed to come back. >> No more. >> That's what you were told in 2021. >> Yes, I'm allowed >> that you're not allowed. >> That even means the parking lot in front of Target as well. Okay. >> I called and spoke to someone here. >> Okay. But we have no proof to we have no proof to confirm that. >> I didn't know. I don't know anything about that. >> We're not going to put handcuffs on you till you sit in the car. Hold on. That car right there. In the end, the woman was taken to the county jail where it was exposed that she had two pending theft cases in two different counties. But at the time of making this video, updates on her charges were unavailable.