But you have your fourways on. That's That's your hazard lights. >> Yeah, I know what it is. You stopped right here. >> Yes, because I have my hazards on. You're allowed to stop if you got your hazards on. >> We're not making a nationality thing about it. >> What nationality, man? I'm with the police department. >> We are nationalist more than American. You know what that means? >> Just identify yourself because I didn't identify myself. That's why. >> And you're driving a motor vehicle? >> No. No. Sir, >> it's case law. >> Laws? I mean, yeah, I have case law in front of you, so I know how to read it off my top of my head as well on the paper, but he was traveling as well. But you >> Sovereign citizens love to flaunt madeup laws that they believe place them above the system, sometimes even using them to threaten police. But what happens when those fantasies collide with real laws, real officers, and very real consequences? >> I'm a pastor, >> okay, >> with the ministry. And so we're doing the whole um we're separating as far as off of the actual corporation in the United States. So it's out of the jurisdiction, but we just travel in peace. >> Okay. I'm not I'm not familiar. I haven't heard of that before. Stop reaching for things. Okay. >> Just shut the phone right here on the roof. Don't on the roof. >> Okay. Do me a favor. Face the vehicle. >> Face the vehicle. >> For what? >> Here are times when sovereign citizens threaten cops with fake laws and [music] it backfires. Starting off with a simple traffic stop for a missing license plate that quickly unraveled into a full-blown sovereign citizen confrontation. >> I'm not a US citizen. I'm an American state national. >> GET OUT OF THE CAR. >> WHAT? >> GET OUT OF THE CAR RIGHT NOW. >> I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. >> I am traveling as a private citizen in my private vehicle. And you guys do not have permission to be in my car. On June the 17th, 2025 in Florida, a Cocoa police officer stopped a [music] vehicle with no license plate or registration, an obvious traffic violation. What she didn't know was that she was about to confront an overly smart sovereign citizen. >> Officer sensor with Eco Police Department. Pulled you over because you don't have a tag on your car. >> Mhm. >> Um, you need a tag on your car. >> Is there a reason why you don't have a tag on? >> Okay. Yeah, because I am part of the American State Republic and you know that we do not have to have tax and registration anymore. >> Okay. >> You know that. >> Okay. You have your license? >> Yes, I do. But I don't know how much longer it's active because I have I already have my other card that you can look up all of my records on. Um it's set up for you guys to look at everything. Okay. Can we get a 404? And I just want you to know I'm traveling in my private vehicle. I am not operating in commerce. >> Okay? And that's why I do not need a tag or registration. I don't even have to have a driver's license. But as soon I just got that. So, I haven't had a chance to address my other identification, but this is the new identification. It covers passport, driver's license, all of that. And it has all the documents in there for you to look at. >> Okay. Okay. So, I'm at least going to need to look at your VIN on your car. >> No, you don't have to look at anything. This is my private vehicle. Okay. And I'm traveling. I am not operating in commerce. >> I'm not I don't I don't want to I know you're doing your job. I do need it. But a lot of that is going to be changing. >> Okay. So, you said it's going to be changing. It's not >> already changed. It was >> as of right now. >> As of January the 1st, no one else is going to ever have to have a driver's license registration. >> January 1st of what? >> Next year. 20. We're still in 2025. >> But it doesn't matter. I not a US citizen. I'm an American state national. >> Okay. >> I am an American citizen. >> When officers tried to verify the vehicle and the driver, she refused to cooperate and rejected every standard request. Instead, she offered something [music] entirely unexpected. >> Go ahead and step out. >> I'm not getting out of my car. >> Ma'am, step out of the car. >> No, I'm not. You for what reason? Because Pennsylvania VM says I can order you out of the vehicle. >> They're saying that Pennsylvania VM is ordering me out of the car. >> Ma'am, I need you to step out of the car. >> I have not committed any crimes. >> Step out of the vehicle >> right now. You are committing a crime. You're resisting. >> He's saying that me not getting out of my car. He's saying that I'm being resisted. Anyone else? There's been over. >> Can you give me just a minute to make? >> No, you need to step out. >> You need to step out right now. >> You're resisting. >> And I am at the public on >> Yep. >> Um, Clarona. >> Hey, S. Just signal 14. I'm about to bust your window. Pepper blaster. >> Oh, yeah. what you wanted. >> Yeah, it's up against the curb. Like she's in the parking stall. She's up against a curb in a large uh median area. >> Can you please ask your supervisor to come here? >> Get out of the car, ma'am. This is the last time I ask you. I'm about to make you >> Why are you making me get out of my car? GET OUT OF THE CAR. WHAT? >> GET OUT OF THE CAR RIGHT NOW. >> I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. >> Get out OF THE CAR. >> GET OUT OF THE CAR OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET TASED. >> I know. I'm going to see if she gets out. >> I I didn't do anything. >> What are you doing? >> What are you doing? >> What? What are you resisting? >> I'm not resisting. You've been resisting this whole time. >> I didn't. You were just telling me to get out of my car. >> Yeah. He was giving you a lawful order to get out of the vehicle. Correct. >> Correct. >> I want the >> And you're violating my constitutional rights. Stop moving. >> So, right now your handcuffs are not double locked, which means they're going to get tighter if you keep moving. And I'm trying to lock them. You've already started moving. Please don't. I >> want you to tell me what crime I committed. >> Right now, it's resisting. Okay. >> I haven't resisted. >> Yes, ma'am. I asked you for your license. >> I haven't committed a crime. >> I asked you for your license. I asked you for >> I gave it to I gave you my identification. That's >> not a driver's license. >> I can give you my driver's license. >> We're past that point. I already asked you for it. You asked me for my ID. >> No, I asked you for your driver >> and I gave it to and I >> and I didn't ask you anything. I told you to get out and you didn't. >> I know, but you had didn't even identify yourself. And what was going on? Okay. Okay. Can you give him the card? I want Please get your supervisor here. >> Is he on his way? >> He's already on his way. >> So, listen. Can you give him my card? And on the back, yes. It has all the information. Those codes right there are for you guys. That's what they're for. She also said everything's going to be changing soon >> and starting next lices. >> Yes. >> And I'm a I'm an American state national. I am not a US citizen. >> Yes. The United States of America, not US citizen. Not be incorporated. Not incorporated under the Constitution. >> Do you have anything on you right now? >> No. >> Even while being detained, she loudly insisted the arrest was illegal and accused officers of violating her rights. But her arguments only pushed the situation [music] further toward an outcome she clearly did not see coming. >> Correct. But I don't have to. I don't have cos. Don't pull my pants down. >> Relax. Relax. >> Don't pull my pants down. >> She's not pulling your pants. >> You pull my shirt off. >> Okay. I pulled your shirt up. I'm not pulling your pants. >> Don't pull my shirt off. >> Please don't pull my shirt off. >> Okay. I have to see if you have anything on your way to me. >> I don't My pants hurt. You're really hurting my arm and I'm not I'm not doing anything. >> I don't need you and stop turning around. >> Okay. I don't need you reaching down to your pants or anything like that. Hard enough. >> Okay. But you were pulling them down and my underwear was hanging out. >> I'm trying to be really nice and >> Listen, I broke my I'm not I'm standing still and you keep raising my arms up. >> Listen for a second. I'm doing that because You already let your arms down. You've already started reaching around. I haven't started right now. I can't trust you. >> Do you want me to turn around and hold on to your car? >> No, I don't want you to do anything. >> I want you to do exactly what you're doing. >> Just face the vehicle. Just don't turn around. Okay. >> Okay. >> But you didn't tell me what you were doing when you started grabbing and pulling my shorts down. >> She doesn't have to tell you what she's doing. >> Yes, she does. >> Okay. I'm searching you. Make sure you don't have any weapons. any contraband that is allowed in the jail. >> I don't have any. You're taking me to jail? >> Yes. >> For what? >> Obstruction resisting. >> I didn't do any of that. Ma'am, >> here he is. Supervisor's here. >> He's going to do a singer. He'll sit right when he's done. Can I call my daughter to go let the dog out, >> please? >> You can hold my phone. >> Get all the way. >> He will come over and talk to you. >> Um, I'm I'm allergic to air fresheners. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, can I keep my head out? I I'm really allergic to air fresheners. >> I'll put the window down. >> Okay, thank you. >> But it's really strong in here. >> I will have an aspect. >> I'll put the window down. >> Once a supervisor arrived, the tone shifted as he explained where things went wrong. But it's hard to explain logic to someone who has made up their own laws. >> I did not resist arrest. She >> You did not. >> No. Why was the window? >> Because he just walked up to me. Didn't announce who he was. Didn't tell me what was going on. He just said, "Get out of your car." And I said, "Well, am I?" >> So you you were dealing with a police officer already. And then he came up on the other side and I didn't even he never announced himself. >> Okay. He doesn't have to. There's you already dealing with an officer. >> I have not broke any laws. I haven't broke any crimes. >> Okay. You didn't? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Well, then we should just release you. >> Yes, you should. >> Thank you for that. I have not broke any laws. >> I haven't broke any crimes. >> Here's the facts. >> You thought that you were going to be able to do whatever you wanted to do and that we weren't going to yank you out of your car. Actually, >> no, I didn't think that at all. >> They got you out of the car pretty nice compared to maybe how I would have handled it because I probably would have put an axe pick through that thing, shoveled out the entire glass, and dragged you out that window. If you are told to exit the vehicle, you exit the vehicle. >> That's scaring me. I didn't know who he was or what he was doing. >> First of all, it got to the point you weren't listening to the initial officer who who by the way my ID asked a very nice officer. >> Yes. And I gave it to her. She never asked for anything else. >> And then you were told several times to exit the vehicle. Yes or no? >> But I asked, "Did I commit a crime?" He didn't tell me what was No, no, no. Stop. This is where you make the mistake. Were you ordered out of the vehicle? Yes or no? >> It's a yes or no. Were you ordered out of here? >> You guys have violated my constitution. >> Then you don't have to talk to me. You're the one who asked me to talk. >> I want your superior here. Please. >> No, he's not coming here. I am the superior. I am the watch commander. >> I want your superior. >> I am the watch commander. >> I want >> I am the watch commander. >> I want your >> I am the watch commander, >> sir. >> I am the watch commander. How many times do I have to say it? What other language do you speak so I can help you, >> sir? I am an American state national >> and I gave her what she asked me for. >> She asked me for my ID. I gave it to her. She did not come back and ask for something else. >> And then she did. She came back and asked for my VIN and I said, "You know what? I am traveling as a private citizen in my private vehicle and you guys do not have permission to be in my car." But we are >> because you're under arrest >> and we're told to >> what? Please tell me why I'm under arrest. >> The very least resisting. >> I didn't resist. >> Unregistered motor vehicle in the state of Florida. >> I don't have to have registration to take. I'm an American citizen. I am not a US citizen. >> I'm also an American citizen. >> I am an American state national. I am not a US citizen. >> Look, United States. >> Whoever filled your head up with this stuff, I'm sorry. >> I'm so That's on you. >> The fifth. >> Okay. And I'm not asking you any questions, so you can plead the fifth. I'm not asking. >> You guys are violating all of my rights. Every last one of them. >> All right. Absolutely. Sure. Good luck with that in court. >> Can Can she please um Can she please bring my phone over here so I can call my daughter so she can go let the pets out of my house? >> Yeah, we'll do that in a bit. Okay. We are not looking for anything. We are doing a inventory because you are under arrest and the vehicle is being towed. Which part of that don't you understand? >> Can you just have my daughter come up here and take the car? >> Okay. No, we will not. >> Oh, dear God. For the rest of the encounter, she kept arguing, deflecting, and insisting that she had done nothing wrong, despite clear explanations. But the more she talked, the worse things became. >> Okay, it's either or. >> I We have the AC blasting, we got windows down, so you got to either choose the natural air, which is >> I'm allergic to air fresheners, and I don't have a I don't have my inhaler. >> Okay. It's literally 90° out here. What difference is it making? >> It's the air. allergic to the air fresheners, the chemicals they use to make it smell so good. >> Okay. So, >> so that's what I'm saying. I need >> So, I open this door. No, >> you're leaving your legs. I just want my face. >> I open the door. What difference is it making? >> Because I'm breathing fresh air and not air that um has the air freshener attached to it. Air freshener is wax and um oils and it attaches to the air molecules so it floats to the air. May I please have some water? I I don't have water. I can't give you any water. >> I have water in my car, >> but she said I couldn't because I understand. I do understand that, but I really need some water, please. >> In a little bit, she's going to get ready to clear from here. And you can get water at the jail. I mean, >> please have some water now. >> I We don't know what's in your water in that thing. It could be vodka for all I know. I'm not going to give you that. >> It's It's not though. >> Okay. Can I Can you please get my phone so I can call my daughter so you can let the dog? >> She has your phone. She has your phone. >> Can you please call my daughter? >> You will get to do all those things. >> I don't want to do I just want to call her and you tell her to go let the dogs out. The pets are in the house. >> Maybe once you're out the jail, but since you're so thirsty, we got to get out of here pretty quickly. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Can I call Lulu? Lulu can call Pearl. >> That's the last one. If there's nothing, there's nothing. >> It's on It's on there. >> I know, but that's the last person we're calling. >> Okay. >> Hey, listen. You're just going to have to call Pearl. Um, my dogs are still in my house and I can't reach my daughter. I'm going to try later, but call Pearl. She knows exactly what to do. And I'm in the Call her. She just called me. Call Pearl and tell her and tell Pearl knows exactly what to do. Tell her to come do it. And she's going to have to try to get in touch with my daughter. My dogs are locked in my house and my daughter's not answering her phone. But the man But just call Pearl. Tell her and she knows what to do. >> Okay. Because I did call her. She's the person. >> I know. So, I'm here with the officer right now, and she was kind enough to let me make a call. So, I'm calling you to tell you to call Pearl back and tell her [music] to do exactly what she knows what to do. >> Okay. Can you give me >> We're done cuz I know >> I just I didn't call her back and just give her >> We're done. Because I have a camera that's not about your dog. >> Okay. Nope. I have a strong feeling it's not. >> Look at my phone. The pictures are right there. Okay, I don't care because we keep saying something and saying something wrong. She already told her what to do. We're done. I was nice enough to do that cuz I really don't trust it to be honest >> cuz you're you're speaking in some kind of code. That's really odd. And by the way, I'm turning your phone off to save the battery. >> I'm not doing anything. >> You can do it all when you're inside. >> Please don't let the dogs out. That's all I will. Please don't let the dogs out. It's an emergency. You've already told her what to do. Chris, Paul doesn't have my daughter's phone number. >> The woman was charged with driving [music] an unregistered vehicle, refusing lawful commands, as well as obstructing officers during a valid traffic stop. If you thought the last one was a bit over the top, wait until you meet George, a pastor who got into a long, surreal standoff with the officers over a fraudulent license plate. >> We're just traveling in private here. Not actually not a motor vehicle, but actual private auto. >> Do you have a picture of an ID or anything? >> There's me baptizing my wife. >> Okay, that's not that's not that's not an ID. Can you can you decide if you're traveling or not traveling? >> I'm not commercially traveling. >> You are traveling. Traveling. >> I'm moving my body. >> On March the 7th, 2025 in Florida, a deputy stopped a vehicle with a questionable paper tag. The driver, George, immediately launched into unusual claims about [music] his identity and which laws applied to him, signaling that the stop was about to go very differently than expected. >> How we doing? >> Good. How are you? >> I'm good. To >> help you. >> I'm deputy going with the sheriff's office. I'm interested in your license plate. What's going on with that? >> It's uh it's part of the DOT. >> Okay. >> Basically, what I'm doing is we're just I'm I'm a pastor. >> Okay. for the ministry. And so we're doing the whole um we're separating as far as off of the actual corporation in the United States, you know, and [music] so we kind of separated that way. So it's out of the jurisdiction, but we just travel in peace. >> Okay. I'm not I'm not familiar. I haven't heard of that before. >> Um well, a lot a lot a lot haven't because they don't really train up on it because, you know, you guys just serve the public and as a corporation. Um but yeah. Okay, >> we're just traveling piece and we're not an actual commercial people. It's a private entity. >> Okay. >> So, and that's why it's the right to travel. It's not the whole big citizen thing like that. We're actually non citizens because we're not here for and so that's why what we register with the EOT. So, we just sort of let them know, okay, we're just traveling in a private vehicle, not in actually not a motor vehicle, but actually private auto. >> Okay. Do you have a driver's license on you? >> I don't because we're joining that in and and because we're separating from that corporate tie, so it's not part of that whole theft protection thing that that the motor vehicle requirement stands for. And we're not traveling in commercial. >> Okay. Do you have any sort of identification on you? >> Um, I don't have my passport. I do I do have a a license that I haven't turned in yet. >> Okay. >> I mean, but I'm not obligated to give that identification, but I work peacefully. [music] So, I I you know, I'm not I'm not a rebellion. I just I [snorts] know this is new to you. I'm just I'm trying to get to work. I'm obeying all the things and stuff like that, but I have to get to work. Um [music] >> Okay. I'd love to I'd love to chat with you and and and get together and and inform you some more so you know more about it. >> George refused to comply and his arguments were starting to get on the nerves of the officers. >> Well, I I can verbally say I'm George. I'm I'm >> Okay. So So you know there's probably about a million Georgees, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So we we need to know exactly who you are. Just saying your name George doesn't identify who you are. We have to be able to positively identify you as your specific identity >> because going by George, like I said, there's a million of Georgees. Okay. >> We just need a way to positively ID you as your individual self. Okay. Do you have anything with your with your full name or any kind of documentation? >> No, but I don't want to step in under the jurisdiction of the corporation. I was explaining to him. I >> Okay. >> Because I'm just acting as a as a free human. I'm traveling, going to work, and that. >> So, we understand that. So, you're you're in the state of Florida, correct? Right now, are we in the state of Florida? Inside the continental US. Okay. You agree with that? So, in the state of Florida, continental US to operate a motor vehicle on public roadway, you have to have a valid driver's license during a traffic stop, you have to identify yourself to law enforcement. Okay. >> Yep. And my my only statement is that I'm not actually operating a motor vehicle. >> So, Okay. So, >> driving a private auto it is a motor vehicle. It is a vehicle with four wheels and a motor and it is propelled on the roadway by not your feet. It is a motorized vehicle. Okay. >> But by definition in the UCCC codes even it's a private automobile. [music] >> Okay. It it's not okay. You're going by by stuff that is written a 100 years ago and has changed and updated since the time you want to >> what you're trying to quote us by. Okay. >> It really isn't. It's a UCCC code. That's what they're going. >> Does the car come back? Who's parking? >> I No, the tag's not legit. It's a paper tag that's for high or not not for >> No, it's it's a it's not for high. It's a private automobile and it's and it's registered with the DOT. >> It's registered with the DOT. >> Okay. Okay. Well, he's going to run the bin and we're going to try and figure out what's going on. >> Explain it [music] to you. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've never seen that tag before and you're not identifying yourself so that I can prove. >> Hey, that's just printed on piece of paper. >> What's that one? I'm sorry. >> If I give you my name, what's that going to prove to you? that you have a valid driver's license first [music] of all and that that you're operating under this USC US code that [music] you're referring to. >> Yeah, the the US code. >> So I understand that you're I understand what you're saying but I'm not familiar with it and you saying that essentially that's my job. I get that but I don't I don't know the code. So [music] if you could provide that so I can prove that cuz right now we are >> the [music] public operates under you have to have a valid license. Perhaps the supervisor may own the UCCC to the numbers off hand. But it's I'm just I'm just trying to >> Okay. Like I said, that's why I just asked if you had an ID so we can actually figure out who you are. >> If you can ID yourself to us, then no. If >> if you you are currently detained on a traffic stop. ID yourself, you can get out of here a lot quicker. The [music] longer you prolong this, the longer you're going to sit here, the longer you're going to be late for work. Okay. Well, >> so that's all we need is we need to be able to identify who you are. Okay. Do you have a picture of an ID or [music] anything? >> It is me baptizing my wife. >> Okay. That's not that's not that's not an ID. You want me to wrap him? >> No, I I got him. >> You got him. >> It's George. He just the the registration's expired on this. >> He has a valid driver's license, but he's refusing to identify himself. >> Yeah. because basically because when it expired and I've learned about the private island of beer and I didn't take it for expired by my registration and move back >> I'm doing the whole trust thing and so we're just trying to transfer it into that and be peaceful. I I mean I stop and pray for you. I probably prayed for you somewhere down the line. You know, I pray for protection for everybody. We help people. I go, you know, I know it's different because you're traffic, but I'm not committing any crime against. >> You are you're creating a a motor violation. >> Crime. >> It is a motor violation. >> Uh a crime. We have crimes. I can arrest people for criminal citations in as far as [music] motor as far as traffic violations. There are criminal citations. Okay. I have not committed a crime against my fellow man. >> Okay, we're not saying you committed a crime against your fellow man. Okay, a crime against a fellow man is going to be theft, stuff like that. We are traffic enforcement. So, we enforce traffic laws and >> you are violating a current traffic law. >> If you ask your supervis, >> you are violating a current traffic law. >> Deputies quickly confirmed the tag wasn't recognized anywhere. As each claim fell apart, George shifted his story again and again. If if I give you a ticket, first of all, you're still refusing to identify yourself. I found your identity. >> Even though that's not >> right, but I'm saying you're you're by law required to identify yourself. You could be arrested for that. Let me just go through what's going on here. Okay. >> I mean, I've got it. I told you I've got it with me. >> Then why wouldn't you provide it? >> I'm concerned with >> No, I was just because I wanted to explain it to them as the whole freedom thing because what happens is >> Okay. So, you're saying I'm going to pause you for a second. You're saying you're you're you're you said you're you're trying to operate freely this that blah blah blah. Why are you carrying a valid driver's license? >> Because I haven't finished the whole process yet. I'm learning about it and I'm [music] trying transferring it like >> Okay. So So you're new to the whole system. So you really don't have 100% idea [music] what you're trying to explain. >> No, actually I've been studying for for a while now. >> So you're carrying a valid driver's license. So that means that you have agreed at some point in your life that you're going to follow Florida law >> unknowingly because I didn't realize that's where we're at. But I'm not old though. >> But I'm not but I'm not acting commercially right now. I'm not >> Nobody said you're acting commercially. >> But that's what if you look at it your whole traffic code. It's all commercial. >> No, it's not. >> It's a uniform commercially. It's not United States. >> Insurance for the vehicle. >> I'm sorry. >> You have insurance for the vehicle? >> Yeah. Yeah. It's progressive. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, I could call them and get the thing and >> you don't you don't carry that with you? >> I was sending that all [music] in. >> No. >> So, here's here's my concern here. Okay. So, we still have not resolved the situation where you were warned last September for your expired tag. It's still expired. You've now put fraudulent paper license plate on. >> Well, it really is. That's >> it is fraudulent. >> It doesn't populate into any database. That means it is fraudulent. >> No, it just means it's not registered commercial. >> No, it means it is fraudulent. If it does not populate to your motor vehicle or a motor vehicle, it is a fraudulent plate, >> which is a felony in the state of Florida. No, I'm merely stating showing that it's been registered with a D. >> It has not been. It has not been. >> We our system is connected straight to them. Okay. >> Have a different license plate. >> Well, if the federal I'm sorry, the FMST. >> Okay. What happens if you hit somebody out here in the roadway? >> What's the process then? >> Well, I I still purchase some insurance to help offset that, but then we actually have a bond cuz everybody has a bond tied to their social security. Okay. So you can actually access that and set up a bond to then take care of anything. So anything that I'm liable for, if I've committed uh any damage to anybody, then I become liable for and and take care of it. And so I either do it through my own personal or do it through the bond that's attached. >> Do you do you have anything that I can Google or any paperwork for me that I can look at? >> Hey, you know the best thing? He just taped this to the valid license plate for the Florida That's [snorts] what I was asking him. When did this charade just randomly >> when he got his last citation? >> He didn't get a ticket actually. So that's the concern is just the warning. >> Yeah, it was warning. And then and that's and that's when I started to research more about it cuz I'd heard stuff about it and actually I researched before. >> Okay, that's what I'm asking for. Let's see what you can provide for us. The problem is is we're not going to come to a resolution if we give him a ticket and he drives off. He still can't drive [music] off because he doesn't have a valid registration for the vehicle. >> But no, cuz then you're detained. Then you're >> No, it's not. >> Have a private individual and I'm not following. >> I'm asking you to provide that. So right now I'm just having a conversation with him while you look for that. Okay. >> Yes. Cuz as far as we're concerned, the law is that you cannot number one have attempted license plate cover your license plate. And then two, once I get you stopped and I can verify the license plate, I can't verify it. So you have two violations for the traffic sign. Okay. >> So I'm going to be s very kind of sarcastic. So you live in Kings Point, which is a gated neighborhood, correct? >> I actually don't live in Kings Point. >> Okay. Why do you have Kings Point? Uh >> because because I do because I do stuff. I I go and help people all the time. Help elderly. >> Okay. So then I need to go to King's Point and let them know that you're not welcome in there because you have to be able to ID yourself when you go into King's Point. >> Even after being calmly told the situation had crossed a serious legal line. George kept debating word play and refused to comply right up until talk was no longer an option. >> Anybody can travel. It's it's it's honestly again it's a free like you as flesh and blood. You should be able to travel and walk and ride anywhere you want privately. Okay? >> You shouldn't be inhibited. If you're inhibited, then you become you're a slave. >> Okay? >> And you're not free to do those things. >> So So what decided what what point in your life did you decide to convert to this this belief? >> Well, it's not converting to a belief. It's just I've learned about it. I've been I've been since 2001. I've been, you know, saved and and and born again. So I actually serve God. I serve people. I I serve the elderly. I pray for folks. I I I do know being saved and praying and all that stuff. That is a religious belief. That is not a a a a freedom on the roadway. >> I've extended that so that I I've learned about the actual UCCC codes >> to enough to see that wait a second, we are privately and we can operate privately ourselves. We can walk and and do those things. >> You can walk wherever you want. A motor vehicle is is a right and privilege. It is not it is not your freedom >> if you Well, it actually is if you're in the under the corporation. >> No. So, so the motor vehicle traveling on public roadways is not a freedom. It is a right. It is something that is allowed and provided to you as long as you follow what the laws and the guidelines that are provided. >> What you just said is actually perfect. You're absolutely right. It is a right once you're part of the corporation. >> It is a right. So, it is a right. So if you follow the rules and guidelines that allow you that give you the right to operate your motor vehicle then yeah you can operate a motor vehicle on roadway. Part of that is involved in the state of Florida specifically is one you have to have a valid driver's license. Two you have to have registration for a vehicle and three you have to have insurance for that vehicle. So far you do not have registration for this vehicle. You have not provided insurance for the vehicle and you will not provide your ID. You made us take the long way around to figure out who you actually are. Okay. So, >> I I told you honestly who I was. >> You told us your name was George and I told you there's probably a million Georgees in the state of Florida. That does not ID you. That is not your physical personal ID. >> Everything you just said is absolutely true. If you're under the corporation of the United States, >> you live in Do you live in the United States? >> What I'm choosing, >> are you residing in the United States? >> No, I'm not residing there. >> Okay. Are you traveling in the United States? >> I reside here in the spirit. >> Okay. Are you traveling in the United States? >> I'm not traveling by You just told us you were traveling. >> Not of the UCCC [music] code. >> You just told us you were traveling. >> I'm actually >> Can you Can you decide if you're traveling or not traveling? >> I'm not commercially traveling. >> You are traveling. Traveling. >> I'm moving my body. >> You Okay. [music] You're Are you walking on two feet or you driving a motor vehicle? >> Doesn't matter. I'm moving. I'm moving. >> You're operating a motor vehicle, correct? >> No. Not correct. I'm [music] >> not This is a motor vehicle. >> By definition, go to Go to UC. >> Okay. Well, we're not UCCC. This is Florida. But we follow Florida code. Okay. >> Well, Florida, >> no states. [music] >> So, okay. You have your levels of government if you want to go all through your governments. You have your federal government. You have your state and local governments. State and local governments are what you have to follow. State and local can trump over top of your federal government. >> Okay. So, you just you just said you agreed with it. Now you don't agree with it. >> No, I agree that that's true if you're stepping into that corporation. >> Okay. You're in the state of Florida. The state of Florida requires you to have that stuff and you don't want to provide that stuff >> as a person identified as a commercial unit of the corporation, but I'm not. That's what I'm saying. I'm just I'm now trying to say, okay, I'm functioning as a flesh and blood. >> So, I'm just going to give you a tidbit of information, okay? You can take it however you want. [music] So that piece of paper that you have that has a private property number on there, that is what we call consider the state of Florida considers that a fraudulent tag or counterfeit [music] tag, which is a felony in the state of Florida and is an arrestable offense. Okay? Because it is not proper registration. It is a falsified document to say you have the registration for a vehicle. Okay? >> Yeah. I'm not saying that. >> And then having multiple copies of it is the felony alone. Okay. So, in the state of Florida, having a piece of paper with random numbers printed on it that do not register back to a vehicle is classified as a felony. Okay. >> After nearly 2 hours of back and forth, officer's patience finally gave out. >> All right, George, will you do us a favor? Will you step out and have a chitchat? >> I can discuss right here. >> No, we're going to get out of the car. Okay, George. >> Okay, come on. >> No, no, you're not you're not supposed to detain me. This is >> Come on, George. Don't make it You don't have to make it harder than it is. Let's just come on out. Okay. Come on. >> Okay, George. >> Stop reaching for things. Okay, >> shut the >> phone's going right here on the roof. Phone is going on the roof. >> Do me a favor. Face the vehicle. >> Face the vehicle. >> Why? Face the vehicle. >> I'm calling. >> Hands behind your back. >> Wait a minute. >> Hands behind your back. >> This is detainment. >> It absolutely is detainment. Okay. >> We'll explain everything here in just a minute. >> Once we get you trapped and get you started, we'll explain everything for you. Okay. You ever before? >> I'm just a pastor trying to blend in your seat. >> Okay. >> Do you have any weapons on you? No. >> Any drug? >> No. >> Okay. Check this out. It >> looks like you're all good to go. No weapons? No. >> So, we've already explained the reason for the stop. Okay. So, we don't have to explain that again. Now, you're being detained for refusing to identify yourself. >> Okay. That's a misdemeanor. >> I just showed him right there. >> Okay. But we asked you several times. You did not give it to him. >> I show right there. Asked you for registration and insurance. >> Now you've committed a felony like my partner explained to you by putting a fake license plate on your vehicle. >> It's It's not fake. >> It is probably Yes. And I asked them to provide me some sort of information to say that you abide by this code, which you did not do that. When I Google it and look up some [music] information, >> UCCC codes, >> yes, that that applies to commercials, commercial vehicles and businesses. This is a passenger vehicle. It's not a commercial vehicle. Okay. Passenger vehicle private vehicle when I >> But you're operating on a public roadway. Okay? Does that make sense? >> But everybody is free to travel as a human being. >> AJ, I just I think Kilo 41 or something. >> So if you want to relax, you can lean up against >> You can turn around and lean against your car. Okay. >> We've already explained this to you multiple times. >> Okay. So, >> you're going to be going to jail for refusing to identify yourself. >> I did identify you through your Let me Let me explain. >> But listen, you did not identify yourself at first. [music] Okay? You've also been warned for your registration that's been expired. >> So, if I gave you a ticket today, I know that you're not going to get your registration fixed because you're already telling us that you don't operate under that law, if you will, because you don't believe that you need to operate under that. >> It's it's private. I'm trying to go through that process. That's all. I I mean whatever process I can put the paperworks together. I said give me the check. It's not a valid process. Take >> it to the judge. >> It is not a valid process that is recognized in the state of Florida under underneath transportation. Okay. >> It's it's that's because it's private. >> Yeah. As I explained to you though, your your your piece of paper that is on your vehicle, it is a fraudulent or fake tag. In the state of Florida, it is a felony. Okay. >> George pushed back, questioned everything, and accused officers of acting unlawfully. But it wouldn't matter much. Now, >> if you're going to try to to express your the belief on that, if it's probably best that you have your documentation to back it >> and I need to >> all you have is a dozen copies of a fraudulent tag is what you're want to call it. Okay. That's all you have is a dozen copies of the same thing. >> It's identification. I thought that >> it's not identification with >> the Federal Motor Safety. >> No, I wish oversees all of it. I thought >> it No, it I I think it does. It does not. You're in the state of Florida. >> That doesn't fall under the federal. >> You're in the state of Florida. >> I'm trying to figure this thing out and just say, "Okay, I'm not hurting anybody. I don't want to be enslaved to [music] every system. That's all." >> Okay, George. Somebody's going to pull up and you're going to be going in their car. Is there anything you would like to take with you? Phones, wallet, anything like that. >> I need >> You can only take very minimal things. >> We're going to take phones, wallets, ID, something like that. Anything you take with you has to have your personal name on it. >> Why am I being taken away? We've already told you that. >> We've already explained this to you. Okay. >> Well, I mean, what's what's the next step? What's the situation? >> You're going to go to jail is where you're going. Okay. He explained that to you already. >> Because you didn't actually take my [music] license. >> We're going to go over here. >> No. No. I need my stuff. >> Okay. Come over. We'll get >> Did I close the window and stuff? >> We'll take care of everything. >> We'll take care of [music] everything. >> We'll take care of everything. >> My phone. We'll get what you need to get. bag. >> Yep. We'll [music] need We'll get what you need. >> Close the windows. >> We'll take care of >> We'll take care of the car >> cuz you're not driving anymore. >> I I don't know what to do. I don't know what's next. >> That's why I'm asking you a question. You're going to be going to jail. Okay. [music] >> What would you like to take with you? You're very minimal. So, usually phones, wallets, stuff like that. [music] >> Next. The next is you're going to go to jail. You're going to go through the brooking process. >> And then you're going to decide what you're going to do from there. or whether you going to go take this to court and >> I don't know how to open this record. >> This is recording. >> What's going to happen? >> No, please explain [music] that to me. >> Turn it off. >> Yeah, I was >> I don't know how to [music] So, so we we turn phones off. That way they're still powered. So when you get to jail, though, eventually at one point they're going to give you access to your phone so you can get three phone numbers out of it. Okay. Step into our vehicle. >> Is there anything on you that might poke, stab, or cut her? Is there [music] a way I can get this >> tech? It should have >> because you can't wear that into the jail. >> Yeah, you'll get a bag. >> Does anybody have an Android? >> Oh, yeah. >> We can deal with it, babe. Okay. >> Don't hand me an iPhone. I don't know what to do with those. >> I'm not with you. We taking everything out of your pocket. >> Yeah, we have to take everything off. Okay. >> I don't want to take my wedding ring off. You >> You can't wear anything into the jail. Okay. Everything has to be kept putting your personal property there. >> So So what what time frame? What are we doing? >> Hey, do me a favor. Have it climb in there and when you get in, I need your feet facing out. Okay. She has to take your shoes off and search inside your feet. Just make sure you don't have any kind of contraband. Okay. >> It's comfortable as the front seat. >> Nope. You're on a hard piece of plastic back here, unfortunately. >> No, I know. >> Your car is getting towed. So if there's anything of value, we need to know what's in there. That way >> getting towed. I have somebody come get it. >> Only the only person that can pick the vehicle up on the side of the road is a registered owner. Ironically, you're the registered owner and you're going to jail. You can't pick up your own vehicle when you're going to jail. >> Okay. >> So, how >> So, your car is getting towed >> and you're going to jail. >> Why are you guys doing all of this? >> Well, unfortunately, you you brought a lot of this upon yourself. Okay. >> He was asking questions. He and I were talking and then you came and all of a sudden you're just like going full throttle. >> Okay. All right. Go ahead and and and turn. Place both your feet in. Okay. Turn all the way in. >> All right. >> Watch your leg. Okay. >> Unfortunate. >> Thank you, George. >> George was arrested and charged with refusal to identify, operating an unregistered vehicle, and displaying a fraudulent license plate. Moving on to an overconfident citizen whose understanding of the law was so flawed that she got herself right into a physical confrontation with the officers over a speeding ticket. >> Do you have a driver's license? >> I'm I I'm with the planetary federal postal judge. I am a service processor and a >> You're what? >> Service processor. >> Step on out of the car. >> You're under arrest. Step out of your OH MY GOD. OH MY. >> On April the 14th, 2024 in Washington State, an officer attempted to stop a speeding vehicle, but the driver continued for several blocks before finally pulling over. When the officer approached, the response he received wasn't compliance, immediately [music] setting the tone for an encounter that was about to go very wrong. >> Hi there, my name's Officer Hake. Just to let you know, the traffic stops being recorded. The reason why I'm stopping you is for speed. 48 and a 35. Not only that, I really strongly believe you're just not paying attention because >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My father My father's in the VA right now and and I just >> No, we went about eight blocks with my lights on and you never even pulled over. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm listening to this. I'm so sorry. Why didn't you make a sound? I'm not >> Because you weren't stopping. That's the reason why. >> Oh, well, I didn't hear. >> We went eight blocks. >> I didn't see any lights. I I I >> It just means you're not paying attention. Do you have your license, registration, and proof of insurance for me, please? >> I'm getting my lawyer. One second. >> I don't need to speak with your lawyer. Can I see your license, registration, and proof of insurance, please? >> What crime have I committed? >> Speeding. Can I get your license, registration, and proof of insurance, please? >> Ma'am, I can't hear you with this window halfway rolled up. Does the crime of speed ste speeding actually become a crime? >> It's an infraction. It becomes a crime when you don't provide your license, registration, and proof of insurance. Ma'am, how many more times am I going to have to ask for this? >> May I see your license, registration, and proof of insurance, please? Ma'am, are you going to provide your license, registration, and proof of insurance, please, or does this have to escalate to an arrest? um if that's what uh you would be choosing. >> No, I'm asking you to provide by law. Stop interrupting, ma'am. I'm trying to explain it to you. By law, on a traffic stop, you are required to provide your license, your registration, and your proof of insurance. I've explained the reason for the stop. I've requested the required documentation, and you're refusing to provide that. Ma'am, is there a reason? I don't contract with the state of Washington. >> You don't contract with the state of Washington. Do you have a driver's license? >> I'm I I'm with the planetary a federal postal judge. I'm a service processor and a >> You're a what? >> Service processor and >> service processor. >> What's that got to do with providing your license, registration, and proof of insurance? Ma'am, >> prosecution and judicial noticer. And um I'm I'm I'm sure your your sergeant can come and and >> Oh, he's already in route, ma'am. Thank you. >> The more the officer tried to explain, the further the conversation drifted from reality and closer to [music] confrontation. >> Is there a reason you're not providing your license, registration, and proof of insurance? >> Um, just because I'm trying to get my lawyer on. >> Okay. I I don't have to wait for your lawyer. Okay. I'm not even going to speak with your lawyer. I nor am I required to. >> However, you are required to provide your license, registration, and proof of insurance. And I've requested it multiple times. >> Um, convenient >> for what? >> Um, so I can get my >> It's got nothing to do with this traffic stop. Ma'am, >> grab your sticks. >> I'm I am being stopped right now. >> I'm being stopped right now with an officer. I'm on I have >> Ma'am, are you providing me with your license, registration, and proof of insurance? Ma'am. >> Um, >> are you going to provide me with your license, registration, and proof of insurance? >> Can you guys get Janine on? Wait a second. >> No, ma'am. Step on out of the car. You're under arrest. >> No, I'm not. >> Step on out of the car. >> Step on out of the car. >> Do it now. >> Do it now or I'll break this window. >> Step on out of the car. You're under arrest. Step on out of the car. >> You're under arrest. Step on out of the car. >> You're under arrest. >> Can you please >> step on out of the car? You're under arrest. >> You don't do this. >> I've provided you multiple requests for your license, registration, and insurance. Okay. Step on out of the car. Do it now. >> She does. I do not have to show >> I will break this window. >> You have to show that. >> If you break that window, you're kidding. Step on out of the car with treason if you break my window. >> Step on out of the car. >> It's illegal. >> This is It's so illegal. I would not do that. >> You can contest that in court, ma'am. >> You're under arrest for obstruction at this point. >> It won't make it to court. >> Yes, it is. >> No, it won't make it to court. >> It won't make it to court. You guys, I I I assure you, you don't want to do this. I'm I'm with the federal postal courts, okay? I am serve the judicial notice in global constitution to the world and this is not correct. This is not what >> you're being recorded ma'am. Everything's being recorded. All your statements are being recorded. >> Okay. You have an option to step on out of the car. >> And if you try to bust your window again, that's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> Step on out of the car. >> Is this your um is this your >> Are you going to step out of the car? >> Ma'am, are you stepping out of the car? Which one is the supervisor? Sir, >> are you going to step out of the car? >> Supervisor, >> he's not here yet. >> Okay, we'll wait for the supervisor. Do not wait. You don't want to break my window, sir. >> I will here in a second if you don't get out of the car. >> If your supervisor gets here, he will let you know you cannot break my window. >> Oh, I doubt that. >> You're being recorded and you can face. >> Yes, you are being recorded. >> Everything's being recorded. >> Yes, we we know. >> Yeah, we know. >> We know. We know. We highly know this. 6 David 1 ETA necromancy and trying to put me in jail. >> Well, you are going to jail. >> You're under arrest at this point, ma'am. >> I am a free I am a free woman. I'm not a cop. I'm not a corporation. You can't contract with me. I am a free woman. A blood flesh breathing woman. I don't >> Okay, I'm not disputing that. But you are under arrest. >> Your supervisor will tell you different, sir. Is he coming? >> I will wait for the supervisor. >> Can I have your guys's record? >> Can I have your badge number? >> It'll be on the arrest report, ma'am. >> What's your What's your badge numbers? >> 2301. >> 2301. And what's yours? >> 2302. >> What's your name? >> Yeah, it is. Ma'am, do me a favor. Turn the car off. Please put the keys on the dash. >> There's There's keyless. >> Can you shut the car off, please? >> Put it in park. >> It is in park. Thank you. A clear line was drawn and a final warning was given, but the woman kept arguing. With options running out, officers were left with a decision [music] that would change everything. >> All right. She's refusing. She's under arrest for obstruction at this point. She refused to provide identification, registration, proof of insurance. >> Woman, >> I'm not a corporation. >> Okay. So, I'm going to tell you this right now. You're going to get out of the car. We're going to pull you out of the car by force. >> He just said he just said I'm He's going to pull me out of the car. I repeat, a living woman. >> A living woman and this is treason, sir. >> Nope. >> It's a traffic stop under revised Code of Washington, Title 46. >> Are you going to step out of the vehicle or are you going to be taken out by force? >> I I haven't done anything. >> You are under arrest for failure to provide ID. Are you going to step out? >> I Well, the speeding is >> Are you going to step out? >> You can give me a warning, >> sir. Can you please don't? Please don't. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Step out of the car. Do it now. >> Are you going to step out? >> Step out of the car. Do it now. >> OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. OH my god. OKAY. OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. STOP IT. STOP IT. David one in custody window and we'll >> take aid break my father's window. Oh my god, PLEASE MY EYES. OH MY GOD. >> 9 David 8. Start us a toe for impound. >> I need an ambulance. >> I NEED AN AMBULANCE. My heart hurts. >> Oh my god. You good? >> Yeah, I'm good. Are you >> I see your cut though. >> Yeah, I'm good. >> They're on the way. >> Coming. I can't believe it. >> She hasn't divided nothing. She refused. >> Do you have a knife to poke a hole? >> I got it. That's >> perfect. I was looking for it. >> Please help me. >> Give you some water. Going to give you some water. >> Please. >> Oh my god. >> I can't breathe. >> Look up. >> Look up. >> Open your eyes. Open your eyes. Open your eyes. >> Open your eyes so we can get in there and rinse out your eyes. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Stop. Stop moving so we can rinse out your eyes. >> Oh my god. Oh, please. >> Oh, please. Oh my god. >> Sit down. Sit down. >> I need more water. >> Then stay still. Stop moving so you can get drinks. >> Okay, stop moving. >> I can't breathe. >> Yes, you can. >> Stay seated. >> This could have all been avoided if you provided your license, registration, and insurance. >> Stop around. >> Well, that's what it's designed for. >> Will you do the search incident to arrest while we get her down here? Keep pissing me up. Well, I've been trying to keep moving. >> I'm too hot. I'm too hot. >> Stay seated. I'm too hot. >> Stay seated. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. No. Please. >> I'm going to start. Do we have a ID on her at all? >> I need a certain So bad. >> Can I get some >> this might have to >> Oh my god. Please [ __ ] >> I can't breathe. Please. >> Oh my god. I can't breathe. Please take off my fire coming. Okay. >> Oh my god. Please. >> Stay still. >> I'm trying. I'm trying. Oh my god. >> Oh my god. Yeah, >> just think how this could have all been avoided if you provided your license, registration, and insurance. >> Medical assistance was called as officers worked to stabilize a situation that had spiraled far beyond a routine stop. What started with a simple request and now crossed the line and the fallout was only beginning. >> Yeah. Also seat belt, >> huh? >> Also a seat belt violation. >> Buckle. She was sitting on it. Please, please. I need I can't breathe. >> Take a breath. My feet are can't give you air. >> Take a breath. >> In and out. >> Please. Oh my god. Oh my god. Please, you guys. >> Please, guys. Oh my god. Please, guys. Please. I need water. I need some more water. Please. >> Okay. Will you stay still? >> Please give me some more water. >> Stay still. There you go. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. My eyes. >> Okay. Stop my eyes. >> Stop away. >> Oh my god. I can't breathe it. >> Okay. Stop. >> Sorry. On your side. That help. It hurts so bad. Please. >> Crap. You're going to make it worse if you keep just rolling around like >> I'm going to start the criminal site. It hurts. Please give me some air. >> Breathe in. >> Nice and slow. >> You have to If you If you stop squirming around, it will be better. I promise. >> Please >> stop trying to grab me. >> My face. My face. Please stop squirming around. We don't have AN ID STILL. >> OKAY, I have an ID. >> Where is it? Oh my god. Okay, hold on. I don't type as fast as you just talking. >> Sorry. And >> by type, I mean handwriting. >> And look, we have the fire guys here. Okay. >> My face hurts so bad, guys. >> So, that's okay. So, don't too much. >> Middle of God. >> Middle name. with an L. >> Birthday again. >> I know. >> These guys are here to help. Okay. >> Unfortunately, >> the only thing that's going to help is time. >> Please. >> The only thing that's going to help is time. We can we can help a little bit. We can wipe you down a little bit. But >> what are we doing here? >> Do you want to be on your side? Do you want to be >> My face hurts so bad. >> I know. Oh, can't believe this happened. This happened. I Please, please help. I hurt me. I hurt so bad. Oh, my ears, my face, my eyes, my chest. >> We understand. >> I can't breathe. Please. There we go. >> That's about as good as it's going to get. >> The driver was treated on scene, taken into custody, and the vehicle was seized, transforming what should have been a minor stop into something far more serious. >> Can I please have my my brother come and grab my father's car? Cuz my father in the vehicle >> and my father no >> please. My faucet just my father just >> So we're going to inbound the vehicle. Can I give you non-compliance in the >> but I can't get my father's car out right now. Please I can't get my father's car out right this second cuz it's we just and my brother we're please can I have my brother come and >> so no we're not we're not going to do any of that. The reason that is because you turned what was a very simple traffic stop into this entire thing it didn't need to do when you literally just needed to hand ID. >> Do you have insurance on the car? >> Yeah, I I think I'm I'm sure she might have. So, it's a very simple like speeding ticket, no vowel with ID. Okay. And you turn it into an arrest for resisting obstructing. >> I was just I was just asking is also going to be added on. >> I was just asking questions. We're not we're not going to do a favor calling somebody else in your car. >> Telling us that it's treason is not asking questions. >> Okay. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> You guys, >> are we done with the search incident to arrest? >> Do you find gentleman's fire department have anything else for her medically or >> guys? He said the final word. >> Can you guys call my son? Can you hide? Please call my son three. >> Please. >> For what? >> 60. Tell him to come my car right now. Right now. >> Come on. Go. I didn't do anything. >> Just so you know, everything in the car is audio MIDI recorded just like you're being recorded right now. >> I didn't do anything. All right. Reach across. You should get your seat belt on. >> No. >> No. I can't. >> All righty. Here you go. >> I can't [laughter] I can't I can is all my stuff in the truck. Can I get my stuff in? Can you please I cannot believe this destroy my whole life right now. I cannot believe that. Can I can I know where the pin pound is going to go? Will they provide me paperwork right away where the impound is >> like an impound? >> Yes. Right away. So my my my brother can't go down. They're thinking [snorts] horrible. You guys are not peacekeepers. You guys are tyrants. You're not so wrong. I'm so wrong. Following the arrest, the woman was formerly charged with resisting arrest and obstructing a law enforcement [music] officer in addition to the original traffic related offenses that initiated the stop. We move on to a sovereign citizen who thought she could get away with speeding because she believes laws didn't [music] apply to her. You got your license, registration, proof of insurance. >> You don't have to have a license to drive car. Educate you on what the law is. >> Okay. >> I'm I'm traveling. I don't I don't have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. >> Okay. In what state is that? >> Any state. It's common law. Natural law. >> Okay. >> Constitutional law. >> What began as a routine late night traffic stop for speeding quickly went off the rails when the driver challenged the most basic assumption of the encounter, insisting that rules didn't apply to her at all. >> Dear lady, Officer Banks, Greek police, I'm pulling you over. We doing 54 and a 35. Any reason for that speed tonight? >> Where's the 35? before you got off the bridge and as soon as you came off the bridge all this is 35 >> I was going 40 I thought >> no you got your license registration proof of insurance >> you don't have to have a license to drive cars >> yes yes you did >> you do not >> 15741 with me ma'am step out the vehicle step out the vehicle >> am I am I a crime >> yeah you are being detained right now step out the vehicle young lady I >> I know my right >> either you step out the vehicle I will remove you from the vehicle I know my rights. >> 157 sovereign supervo sovereign citizen. >> Did you hear what I said? >> As the officer calmly asked routine questions, the exchange drifted into familiar territory. The driver leaned on lofty claims and refused to comply, pushing the stop toward a confrontation she clearly believed she could win. >> No, you need to step out the vehicle right now. >> Young lady, step out the vehicle. Step out the vehicle. Last time I'm going to ask you, I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask. Then I'm going to make you move step out the vehicle. going to get me a supervisor out here right now. >> No, you're going to step out the vehicle right now. >> You are going to get me a supervisor out here right now. >> That's fine. >> I know my right. >> What right is that? >> I I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a car. I am not This is not a commercial vehicle. >> Okay. >> I know my right. >> Okay. Very well. >> That's what you want to stick with? >> Call a supervisor right now. >> All right. >> Right now. >> Or else what? >> I know my rights. If I don't call supervisor or else what? >> I guess we're not going to go anywhere then. >> 1025. >> Just hold it for me and go and give me the channel. >> You need to get a supervisor out here. >> Our channel will be 1033. >> That can that can educate you on what the law is. >> Okay. He's he could educate me on what the law is. What? So, do you have an ID or you have a driver's license? >> I No, I don't have a driver's license on me. >> Okay. Do you have one issued to you? >> Uh, in Mississippi. >> In Mississippi. So, why would you need a driver's license to drive on the road if you don't need a license? >> That was years ago. >> Oh, so what year is this? >> What year was the ID issued? >> 29. >> That's your supervisor. >> You hope it is? >> I really do. Yes, I do. >> Okay. >> What is your name and badge number? >> I already told you my name. It's Officer Banks. I didn't. >> And what is your badge number? >> It's Officer Banks. Are you failing to to >> Are you failing to give me your driver's license? >> I don't have to give you a driver's license to drive a car. This is not a commercial vehicle. >> Okay. >> I'm not driving. I'm traveling. >> Okay. >> I have all the laws back here. >> Okay. So, you're not going to give me a driver's license? >> I'm not going to give you a driver's license. I don't have to give you a driver's license. >> Okay. >> I am I'm traveling. I don't I don't have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. >> Okay. And what [music] state is that? >> Any state. It's common law. Natural law. >> Okay. Constitutional law. >> Okay. >> You need to get a supervisor out here. >> I do? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, what law >> requesting your supervisor? >> So, just like I'm requesting your driver's license. >> Well, I'm sorry. I don't have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. >> Okay. >> Even after repeated warnings and a supervisor stepping in to explain, the woman refused every chance to comply. With patients now exhausted, officers made a decisive move. one that instantly [music] changed the course of everything that followed. >> You do need a license to drive a vehicle and you do have to identify yourself to these officers. >> I I do not have to have a license to drive again. >> Yes, you do. >> I do not. >> You're wrong. But okay, >> I know common law. >> I don't care about common law. You're in the state of Florida. >> You're in the state of Florida. >> You're in the state of Florida. >> Doesn't matter in what state? >> It does matter. >> I'm in the US. >> It does matter. So, you better hope the information you gave us comes [music] back as to being you. So, at this point in time, I need you to shut the vehicle off and step out of the car. >> I'm I'm not getting out of the vehicle. >> You're going to get out of the car. >> I haven't been suspected of a crime. >> You are being legally stopped on a traffic stop. You are not being cooperative. >> Trust me, I know the difference. You were speeding. >> Turn the vehicle off and get out of the car. >> Out of the car now. Undo the seat belt. >> Turn the vehicle off. >> Turn it off now. Face up. >> Put all that down. >> Step out. Turn around. Face away from me. >> Turn around. Face away. >> Turn around. >> I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. >> Yes, you do. And you can tell that to the judge if you end up going to jail. >> I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. I have all the laws right there. >> I don't care. I don't care what laws you say you want. >> I know that you don't care because you're supposed to be a police officer. This is that you should know that this conversation's over then, >> right? Because you don't care about the laws. You don't care about >> our rights. >> That's the problem. >> Have a seat. >> I need to call I need to call somebody. Yes, I do. >> You call somebody from Santa Rosa County Jail. >> Excuse me. >> You call somebody from Santa Rosa County Jail. You're under arrest. >> I >> I live right down there. Where is your ID out of or your license out of? >> Mississippi. >> I just thought you didn't have one. You just said you don't need one. >> This is This is This is ridiculous. >> It's not ridiculous. We're not going to play any of these games with you tonight. >> It's not a game. This is my rights as a citizen. >> It's not your right. >> Yes, it is. >> No, it's not. You're in the state of Florida. State of Florida requires you to have a driver's license to operate a motor vehicle. >> Sir, it it doesn't doesn't matter what state I'm in. >> See, that's your problem. As you say, it doesn't matter, but it does. In this country, it does. I don't care about what laws you say you have. >> You should care about the laws and the rights of citizens. You're >> We know [music] your rights. We know your rights. You don't know your rights. No, you don't. >> Yes, I do. >> Because if you knew your rights, you knew or you would know and should know that you must have a driver's license to operate a motor vehicle. And if I find out that you if you find if I find out that you are not giving us the right information to identify you >> the right information. Why would I do that? I'm I'm trying to use my rights as a legal citizen. Why would I >> Why would you do that? Well, you would do that because you don't have a valid driver's license. >> I don't have a valid driver's license. I don't have to have a valid driver's license. >> You do? >> No, I do not. >> Okay. >> I do not. >> Then we'll let the judge determine that. >> We will let the You can't arrest me. I haven't done anything wrong. >> We can arrest you. >> You No, you can't. >> As officers pressed forward, they uncovered something that suddenly explained why the woman had been hiding behind all those claims. >> If you don't have a valid driver's license, we most certainly can. >> Can I please call my mother? >> You cannot. >> Why? >> Because you don't need to call. Are you an adult? >> Yes. >> Then why do you need to call your mother? >> To come and get me from jail since I'm being illegally detained. >> You will be able to call her once you get there. Can I at least lock my car? >> We will make sure it is secure. >> What are you going to do with my car? >> Probably tell it. >> Why? >> Because you are driving without a license. >> I don't have to have a license to drive. That is commercial driving. >> It is not commercial driving. >> Yes, it is. >> Ma'am, I'm telling you right now. No, no, no. Stop. I'm tell you didn't piss us off. I I obviously have cuz y'all are detaining me illegally. >> No, you're you're being arrested >> is what's happening. And you have not us off. We are doing our job. >> Whether you agree or not doesn't matter. It's a mute >> orders from the top. You don't know your You don't know the laws and the rights. >> Law is law is law. >> We do. >> Sergeant Turner >> and And in this country, what laws do we follow? >> Canon law. Y'all follow cannon law. We follow federal law. >> Who is we? Who is we? >> Who is we? Tell me who we is. >> Police officers. >> No. Police officers. [music] >> We We are police officers. We're not peace officers. We're police officers. >> Yes, I know that. Now, >> so then your argument just needs to stop and you just need to sit there quietly. >> Sergeant Turner, please just [music] let me go home. >> No. >> Why? because you do not have a valid driver's license [music] and you have done nothing but give my officers a hard time during this entire ordeal. >> I can tell you that I have rights. >> You don't know your rights. Clearly >> ugly to y'all. I haven't yelled at you. >> You have not been cooperative. >> I haven't been cooperative in what side. >> Just go with it. >> No, just be honest. >> Sergeant, please. >> You don't have a license. >> Okay. I'll never drive again. Yes, you will. Because you believe you don't have to have a license. >> I'll go get a driver's license tomorrow. >> Well, wait a minute. Now you Now you're telling me that you'll go get a license >> because you're telling me that I have no choice. >> Believe you don't. That's correct. You have no choice. >> Sergeant Turner, please. >> This is the No, this is the road that's being taken and this is what's going to happen. You failed to appear on a court appearance for what was it? Expired license. So, your Mississippi driver's license is expired. >> And for the registration. >> Okay. And the registration. So, you [music] had a court date that you missed. >> Do you remember that? >> No, I don't. >> You don't or you choose not to. >> No, sir. I would not lie to you. I don't lie. I I do not remember that. >> Okay. Well, [music] you do have a warrant out of Santa Rosa County. >> So, regardless, >> you're in Santa Rosa County. >> You're in Santa Rosa County. Do you not know where you live? >> I just moved here. My mother lives on High Point. >> When did you move here? >> About two months ago from Pasigula, Mississippi. >> Okay. Well, you don't know what county you live in now after 2 months. >> I don't I don't That's not something that's I use often. What county I live in? >> Okay. Well, you are going to jail tonight. >> Well, thank you, Sergeant Turner. >> You're welcome. I can do that too. I can I can stare at you. >> You know that you are doing the wrong thing. >> Nope. I know. >> Y'all could let me go and handle my warrant tomorrow. >> No, we can't. >> Right. Because y'all have something to prove. >> I don't have anything to prove. My officer certainly doesn't have anything to prove. But what what we want you to understand is there are laws that you have to follow. Whether you agree with them or not is a mute point. Because if you choose not to follow them and you continue to act like this and do this, you're just going to constantly be going to jail. Is that what you really want? >> I'm not acting like you're doing anything like >> you told us that you don't have to have a driver's license to drive. >> And clearly you do. >> She then asked to call her mother to come get her from jail, but officers said she could only make calls once she arrived at the facility. Can I Can I please call my mother? >> You will be able to call your mother from the jail. >> Please let me go ahead and call her so she can head there. She's sleeping. Please. >> By the time you get booked in and everything, it'll be early enough in the morning. You can call her and she'll probably be getting up. >> This is going to take hours. >> It's not going to take hours, but it's going to take some time. >> Turner, please. Can Can you >> The answer is no. >> Moments later, everything took an unexpected turn. During a routine search, officers allegedly discovered something that instantly shifted the situation, turning a traffic argument into a far [music] more serious criminal case. >> You got some karma. >> I'm not worried about my car. >> I know. I know. >> One of those. >> No. You know what I'm actually worried about? People like you who think that laws don't No, there is no quota. It's people like you who believe that laws don't pertain to them >> and that's just not the case. >> Then enjoy spending a lifetime in and out of jail >> because that is what will happen. >> Though it though it won't actually >> if you continue [music] to act like this and do this, it will. >> I'm not acting like anything. >> Then I would suggest moving back to Mississippi. >> I'm not moving back to Mississippi. Then if you stay living here and driving a car without getting a valid driver's license, that is what is going to happen. >> You do not have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. I've already I've already been through roadblocks with state troopers with this. >> Then they're not very good state troopers. >> Yes, they are. Cuz they know their their rights. >> No. If they let you through with this garbage, they're not. >> This is not garbage. >> It's garbage. >> Have Have you done any research into it? I more than you will ever know. >> You're not the first one. It's not >> You're not the first person I've run across that thinks this way. >> Yeah, I know. >> Those other people went to jail, too. >> Good. Good. You know, >> it's not the fact that I do not have to have a driver's license to drive people. I do not I'm not a commercial driver. I'm not driving people around. I'm I'm traveling. That is considered a part of my home. And I do not have to have a driver's license to drive a vehicle. >> I suppose you don't have to have a registration either. >> Your tag's expired. >> Okay. You know who I am. You earn my tag. >> So, here's what I am curious about cuz you're right. I do want to know more. >> Is that your car? >> Yes, that's my car. >> So, you're the registered owner of that car? >> Yes. >> So, at one point it had a valid tag and registration, >> right? Because if I rode around without any tag, that would just be asking for trouble. So instead, you're okay just riding around with an illegal expired tag. >> It's not illegal. >> So So you're basically masking the fact that you don't believe you the laws apply to you. >> I have to do whatever I have run through these hoops that y'all put us through just to get by. >> Where's the in the car? >> There's no car. >> There seems to be ammo. the bar shop. >> When did you pawn it? >> Two months ago. >> So, why are you still just carrying around ammo? >> I didn't know that ammo was in there. >> What's wrong with carrying around ammo? What kind of >> Nothing all right is wrong with it? But if there's ammo, normally there's a And since the vehicle's being towed, we want to keep the in safekeeping. >> Give me your full name. Look at me. Give me your full name. Give me your full name. Drugs inside the [music] vehicle. You are under under arrest now for possession of felony narcotics. >> Even after that discovery, she kept arguing theory, accusing officers of overreach, clinging to her own version of the law. Right up until reality finally caught up, and the weight of the situation became impossible to ignore. >> I didn't give y'all permission to search my vehicle either. >> Your vehicle's being towed. We're inventorying it. We're not searching it. >> Yes, you are. You're searching my vehicle. You say that our laws don't matter to you, so what's it matter? >> Obviously, I don't have any laws right now. >> No, there's plenty of laws. You're just breaking them. >> I don't have to mind laws that aren't that aren't valid. >> They're valid laws. >> They are not valid laws. [music] >> The United States and the state of Florida seem to think they are. >> The United States has a constitution >> that we we fall under, >> right? statutes, mandates, codes. >> So, >> none of that matters. >> So, under our constitution, it still gives the the state governments the right to govern themselves. Correct. >> That's right. And the sheriff has all the power. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> The sheriff does. He is the head law enforcement. >> He's not part of NATO. [music] He's not part of the Council on Relations. >> I'm not part of NATO either. >> Well, you you you take orders from the top. >> Nope, I don't. >> Yes, you do. >> You know who I take my orders from? My chief of police. >> Exactly. He takes orders from the top. Who's the top? >> You want me to give them one name? I mean, that would be impossible. >> I don't know who the top is. >> I know cuz you haven't done research. >> I guess I'm just an ignorant cop. >> Nope. You said that. I didn't say that. >> That's what you're implying. >> No, I don't imply things. >> Then stop implying that I only take orders from the top. >> Fair enough. You do take orders from the top. That's how it works. >> Pray not. >> Oh, it doesn't. I'll just make up your own. Yeah, I know. That's what you're doing right now. >> No, you make up your own. >> I don't. I know the Constitution. I've learned it. >> I know the Constitution, too. I also know that the states have the right to govern themselves. >> It's been turned into >> Oh, and I'm sure you're the expert. Yeah, I I I have rights and I live in America. >> Correct. But you you you decide which laws to follow. >> Take orders from anybody. >> Nobody's giving you orders. >> Nobody's giving you orders. >> Uh obviously you are right now. >> No. Right now >> to jail. >> Yeah. Because you violated >> Florida state law. >> I violated a law that someone made up that that's not legal. >> The Constitution was made up. Yeah. >> By people. >> Yeah. And >> those same people put laws into place even back then. >> Our our constitution was changed in 1776 and in 1871. >> I don't think it was changed in 1776. >> It it was written in 1772. >> Ah, there we go. >> And it was it was changed in 1871. >> I have to take your word on that one >> because you haven't done the research. >> Cuz I don't need to. >> Right. cuz you know everything. >> I don't know anything, but I do know my job >> and I know my officers know their job. >> You know >> the orders that you're supposed to do? >> No, I just know that you have to have a driver's license. >> People in the community. Y'all should be helping the people. >> We do help. >> No, you don't. >> We do. >> You you you >> you don't know anything everybody. >> You don't know about You don't know anything about us. I do >> to sit there and say that I don't help anyone, that my officers over there don't help anyone. >> Y'all aren't helping me right now. >> You're not helping yourself because you choose to not get a valid driver's license. >> That's totally changing. >> You're just playing a victim. >> I'm not I'm not playing a victim. >> That's what you're doing. >> I'm not a victim. I'll never be a victim. I hate that mentality. >> Then then why are you playing all these excuses as to you don't need a driver's license? >> It's not an excuse of them. >> I have the laws in that car. That's why I ride around with them. >> Why? To educate >> the book of the Constitution. >> To educate people like me. >> I don't think that you're interested in learning anything. You're very stubborn. >> I don't think you know anything about me to even get to make that comment. >> The woman was formerly charged with operating a motor vehicle without a valid driver's license, driving under the influence, [music] and possession of narcotics along with enforcement related to an active warrant stemming from a prior failure to appear. Up next is a routine welfare check that should have ended in minutes but spiraled into multiple arrests. All because one man, Ben, believed that fake laws put him above real ones. >> She said I'm a Morris National. You know what that mean? >> I don't know what that is. >> You have a warrant out of Erie County. So what's it for? You know >> I have no warrant out. >> Okay. Well, they'll come pick you up when you get out of jail. Okay. >> I said the car. >> What do you want? Read it AND THEN LET HIM OUT. >> NO. >> YOU'RE OBSTRUCTING. YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL, TOO. On January the 22nd, 2022 in Ohio, officers stopped to check on Ben, who was partially blocking the road with hazard lights after a flat tire. What should have been a simple welfare check quickly [music] changed when Ben became defensive for no apparent reason. Or as the cops would later find out, some non-existent and delusional laws that he chose to live by. >> How'd you get a flat tire? >> Uh, that I don't know, bud. >> They don't know. It just happened. >> Yeah, just left work. I didn't make it to the house. I got another tire. I'm good. >> All right. Uh, you got your license on you? >> Uh, no I not. >> Do you have a license? Is that >> what? >> Do you have a license? >> I'm trying to get home though, man. I just >> Yeah, I get it. I get it. I was just going to check to make sure you're okay and then you stopped in the middle of the road. >> No, you hurt my tire. >> That's obviously the reason why I stop. >> I don't know why you're getting so defensive. I'm just checking. >> Look, look. You see this? >> I'm literally checking. >> But I got I have to get home to my baby, man. >> I get it. I don't know why you're being so defensive, though. >> You are. You're jumping down my throat over here when all I was doing is just checking up on you. >> I'm not jumping down your throat. >> I'm in. All right. What's your name? What's your name? >> Oh, hold on, sir. >> What's your name? Hey, man. Get off your phone. If you give me your name, date of birth, we'll get you going out of here. Okay. >> Because of my tire. That's why you're going to check my plates. >> Well, your plate's not coming back to anything. Hey, >> I called a flat tire. So, you're going to ask for my license because I called a flat tire. >> I just I just I just left. >> I got you. If you just give us your name, date of birth, we can attach you to this cuz I'm out with you. As long as you come back clean, >> we'll let you go. I don't get what the problem is. >> But you have your fourways on. That's That's your hazard lights. >> Yeah, I know what it is. >> But you stopped in the middle of the road. >> I did not stop in the middle of the road. >> You stopped right here. >> Yes, because I have my hazards on. You're allowed to stop if you got your hazards on >> and I'm allowed to stop to make sure you're okay. >> Yes, I'm okay. My tire went >> What's your name and date of birth, buddy? >> Hello. >> Take him up for obstruction. The police didn't stop me. My tire went flat and now they asking where my license is. >> Yeah, the plate doesn't come back to anything. >> I don't understand like why they're giving me a hard time. >> You're giving me a hard time. >> I did not jump down your throat and you got me on cam. I did not jump down. >> You did? I just asked your name and date of birth, buddy. THAT'S ALL I WANTED. >> ONLY THING I said was I'm trying to get home. >> She's a Morris National. >> I can't hear it, so I don't know what >> she said. I'm a Morris National. You know what that mean? >> I don't know what that is. Instead of cooperating, Ben refused to identify himself despite officers calmly explaining the situation. As the exchange dragged on, his claim supported by his accomplice over the phone took a strange turn. >> We just told you we just stole your vehicle. >> You just going to tell my vehicle? >> Sorry. They just said they going to tell my vehicle. Really? >> It's got a flat tire. You can't be driving it. The plates don't come back to anything. How about you just give me your name and date of birth? >> Name badge number. >> Okay. What's your name and badge number? >> Officers in Gali. Badge number 8070. >> What is your status? Get your hands out of your pockets. >> Oh, my hands ain't my hands in my pockets. What's your status? >> What do you mean status? >> What's your status? Where's your nationality? You don't have one. >> What are you talking? >> We're not making a nationality thing about it. >> What nationality, man? I'm with the police department. >> We are nationalist more than Americans. You know what that means? I'm not under no jurisdiction. You're in our jurisdiction. >> Not in your jurisdiction. >> 56. >> Do I have to have you come up here? We're coming out here is not going to do anything, man. >> Yes, it is. >> No, it's not. Your plates don't come back to anything. >> You drive down here with a flat tire. You got to light it out. >> Okay. That's not my fault that I caught a flat tire, man. Like, like I wanted to catch a flat tire. I didn't want to c do this. >> Just tell me who you are. Then give me your information. You go home to your son. >> Okay. Is she an attorney? Is she what? Is she an attorney? >> Yes, she is. >> What's her bar number? Sorry. It said, "What's your bar number?" You When you a more national American, you don't need that. >> Yeah, you do. Um, no you don't need to borrow. >> Yeah. >> No, you don't. >> In order to be an attorney in the United States. Yes, you do. >> Yes, you do. >> I I just had her represent me for a case. No, you didn't. >> Tell her to get ready for another case. >> They said tell you to get ready for another case. >> What's your badge number? >> Real 63. >> Write it down. Real 63. The hazards means that somebody's following. >> The hazards don't mean that I can't stop you. Okay. The hazards mean I I can still jump out with you, buddy. It's >> you you hurt my tire. So if >> Yeah, that's why I'm making sure everything's okay. Making sure your car is >> able to be driven. How come your plates don't come back to anything? >> Do I know? >> How come your plates don't come back in? >> They should. >> They don't. I ran them twice. I need to know who you are. You're about to be under arrest. Just tell me who you are. >> Ben was given repeated [music] final warnings to identify himself, but each time chose arguments over compliance. >> Can I talk to you for a second? >> Yeah. >> I'm not trying to cause her issue. >> Yeah. What's going on? I I just told the officer here. I'm trying to get her to my friend. >> Huh? >> Request sergeant right now. >> Is your sergeant out here? >> I am sergeant. >> Yeah. Okay. He's on here. >> We are nationals. >> Look it up. >> I work at the freaking out there. >> Can I talk to you, not the phone? I can't I can't listen to both of you. Okay. Can you just hang up for a minute and call her back? >> Okay. Just hold up. Hold up. I'll stay on the phone. >> Okay. Can you mute her or something for a She's my she she's my authorized representative. >> Okay. So, what's going on? >> I just called a flat. He said that he uh I stopped in the middle of the road. I wasn't bothering nobody. I wasn't causing any harm. >> Okay. >> Okay. I didn't damage nobody's goods. So, therefore, like I mean like what is the issue? I'm standing out here freezing my ass now because they said I didn't give my information. If you was really trying to help me, you would try to see about that tire, not about the plane. >> Okay. Well, your vehicle's causing a hazard in the road. So, maybe right. And I was trying to pull over, but now >> Okay. So So why aren't you giving your information? Because that's not why you stopped me. It's because I just fifth amendment right. No person shall be held to earn or otherwise. >> Please just hang up the phone. >> What's the crime that's being committed? >> What's the crime that's being committed? >> Your vehicle is causing a hazard in the road. Okay. >> So So if you don't give your information and stuff, we'll just tow the vehicle. I'm trying to understand what's going on, but I can't listen to you and the phone at the same time. Okay. >> No, we're not talking at the same time. >> I'm not listening to both of you. Okay, hold on a minute. >> Then officers uncovered something else. Details about the plates, the vehicle, and Ben's history that changed everything. >> It's the last chance. You either give your ID or you're going to go to jail for or you identify yourself. Okay, >> so your choice. >> Look, man. We just want your We just want >> It's no It's no big deal. >> Hello. >> Okay, so now they said they going to take me to jail. >> Just identify yourself because I didn't identify myself. And you're driving a motor vehicle. >> No. No sir. I'm traveling. >> Hook him. >> All right. >> All right. Guys on your back, buddy. >> All right. Now he's booking me. >> I don't know why you made this difficult. Do you not have a driver's license? Is that the issue? >> You got warrants? That's the only thing I do. I was just trying to get to my son. That's all you have to do is get your information. Is this you or you Ben? That's what it says here. Was this Was this all worth it? [snorts] Huh? Is this worth it? It didn't It didn't have to go this way. >> I don't know why you didn't identify yourself. That's all we needed for you. >> My car. >> Listen, this is your last chance. You can either identify yourself now and we can just go with what's going on with this vehicle or you can go to jail for obstruction and fail [snorts] to identify yourself. So, it's your choice what you want to do right now. >> I'm just trying to get home to my son. >> Okay. So, you got a driver's license? It's not a big deal if you don't have a driver's license. Do you not have one? >> My my driver's license is at the house. All I'm just trying to do is get home. >> Do you have a valid license? >> I don't know if it's valid, but I have. Are you Are you willing to give your social security number? >> I don't have my social security number on me, but I do. >> You don't You don't know it? >> No, not by heart. >> All right. What's your name and date of birth? You know that >> was contact and >> Okay. What's your date of birth so we can look you up? >> He's not going to find the RP. >> Is that Is that why you didn't want to identify yourself? >> I didn't think I was suspended. >> Have a seat in the car. Go have a seat. >> I didn't do anything wrong. >> Okay. We explained to you a million times. I am false. Well, >> you know, you also have a warrant out of Erie County, right? What's your warrant for out of Erie County? >> What do you mean warrant for outer county? >> You have a warrant out of Erie County. So, what's it for? You know, >> I have no warrant out here. >> Okay. Well, they'll come pick you up when you get out of jail. Okay. >> Ben was put under arrest for failure to identify and obstruction. But the drama was not yet over as his lawyer friend showed up to the station to confront the officers. >> I was on the phone. I was the one on the phone. I heard everything that went on. Yeah. >> I was trying to figure out um you guys got him as obstructing and failure to identify. >> That's correct. >> Yeah. His uh fifth amendment right? He has he does not have to identify and then did you guys have a fourth amendment swarm warrant to search and seize him and his vehicle? >> Uh the vehicle was towed because it did not have ballot plates and it was uh obstructing the roadway with a flat tire. >> What actual crime was committed? >> Uh originally I was just checking on him due to the fact that he had a flat tire. stopped in the middle of the roadway. So he was >> he had on his hazards too. >> Yeah. But he was obstructing the road. >> But when I told you I referred to you on the phone that he was a Morris national, you guys disregarded it. >> He still has to follow the laws of the state of Ohio. >> Okay. Let me let me let me read this to you real quick. So he was traveling for one. And I would just like to know what is the crime for? The crime that you're putting it as is for obstructing the roadway and failure to identify. As I told you, he had >> he was he was obstructing the roadway with his vehicle. The plates did not come back to the vehicle. So that's fictitious plates. >> I wouldn't say they were fictitious. >> They were they did not come back to the vehicle which state which under the law mean >> you stopped to even bother. >> I was stopping to check on them originally. >> I mean you were stopping to check but then as soon as you stopped to check you ran the plates because >> you ran the plates beforehand or after >> right before I got out of the vehicle I ran the plates. >> You ran the plates. >> They didn't come back to anything. I ran them again through my dispatcher when I was up there to make sure that I didn't just mess it up. So verifying that. >> So you ran the plates prior beforehand and then you ran them >> because I had to know who I was out with. I'm allowed to run any plate that's on the roadway. >> Uh not not technically. No, not technically. It is we we have case law in front of you so I know how to read it off my top of my head as well on the paper. But he was traveling as well. But you obviously didn't even have a crime that existed and you didn't Was there an injured party? >> No, there doesn't need to be. >> You violated uh his fourth amendment right as well as his fifth. He has a fifth amendment right which I'm sure you're aware of cuz you took oath to it, right? The constitution. >> Anything that any questions you need about the law, you can speak to the you can talk to the uh attorney once she gets our council myself. >> No, no, our attorney. >> Yeah, your but you can talk to her about that. But you did. >> I'm going to Yes. But I'm going to write the report and then I'm going to give it to her. >> How can I about something that's coming from you? You were >> Because I'm going to write the report. She's going to She's going to file the charges. So everything's going to go through her. >> So he wasn't took him before a judge before you guys locked them up, which is correct. >> No, not Yeah, it is correct. Correct. You didn't take him before a judge? >> No, I took him. >> Anytime you arrest anytime you arrest someone, they're supposed to go before a judge because >> he goes through he goes before the judge tomorrow. >> He's tomorrow. That's not from the county. Unless he bonds out. >> No, that's not what I got from him. He's bonds. He'll be there from Wednesday to Monday. >> Well, he has a a warrant out of Erie County as well. >> So, you didn't see that warrant when you ran his tags? >> No, because the tags didn't come back to anything. Once we once we ran the VIN off the truck, it came back to him. >> Who's the other officer? >> Officer Real. >> Real? >> Yeah. He gave you his name over the phone as well. >> No, he didn't give me his badge. >> Real 63. >> Real 63 is what he said. >> Real. Real or real? >> Real. R E L. >> R E L. Okay. And his badge number is 63. >> 63. >> Okay. All right. Well, thank you. >> Yeah, I'll come. >> See you in court. >> Yep. Yes. >> Less than a month later, Ben was stopped again. This time for the same fictitious plate, only for him to argue with officers once again. >> What's the problem? >> He's not getting the vehicle. He said, "Break the window to get him out. So, I was waiting for you to get here." Comes back to a Volvo. So, the same charges we dealt with in the past. We got him again. >> Mr. You need to step out of the car, man. Okay. >> For what? >> Because you have warrants. >> Can you show me the paperwork? Do I have a warrant? >> Yes. >> I will. You have three additional warrants >> for what? >> For failure to appear for the fictitious, for the DU, and what was the other one? Another one. Yeah, there's three of them. >> But there's three of them cuz you apparently you missed court date. >> Plus, you're driving under suspension >> and you're currently driving under suspension. Just don't make this any worse than it needs to be, dude. >> Well, I'm not trying to make anything worse. >> You're being non-compliant. Okay. >> I'm not I'm not being non-compliant. >> Well, we're asking you to step out. It's a lawful order, but this is going to escalate and you're going to catch more charges which are felony charges. >> Do not consent to >> do not consent to any power. >> No attorney. >> She's not even an attorney. >> The whole thing is we don't want to bust your window out. I would like you to step out. I'm going to give you about 5 seconds >> to open the and we're going to bust your window out and we're going to drag you out of there. >> He said he going to give me 5 seconds. >> One. >> And he going to bust the window out. Two, three, four, FIVE. OH, YEAH. >> Step on the car. >> I SAID STEP on the car. >> What are you doing? >> I'm not even I'm not even I'm not even resisting. I'm not I'm not resisting. I'm I'm not resisting at all. >> N that glass cut me in the face. >> Turn it. That's all right. That the glass cut me in the face. You're okay. >> Hey, the cuffs are tight on me. >> I'm going to readjust them. >> No, the cuffs are tight on me. >> They're okay cuz I can fit my fingers in there. They're double locking cuffs. >> Make sure you put my phones where I can see them. Don't try to reach for my groin area. >> I'm not reaching for >> Yes, you did. You just tried to touch my groin area. >> Man, that's a violation. Why would you try to do that? >> Have a seat. >> Can I get in the truck? Yeah, have a seat. How can I have a seat like that? I got to step in. Supposed to have a seat standing up. cake. Wow. >> And you didn't adjust these cuffs. >> They are not adjusted, man. >> I teach this I teach this class in the academy. >> Okay. All right. >> 3 months later, police ran into Ben again. Still driving and still defiant. This time he wasn't alone. This time he was with someone who happened to be even more delusional than he was. >> What did it say? It said the worst. Let me see the front page, too. I need to see everything. >> This is the original. That's the copy. Let me see the front page. Let me read. >> It's the same page. >> Okay. Let don't get smart. I'm not GETTING SMART. >> READ IT AND THEN LET HIM OUT. >> OH MY [screaming] GOD. NO. >> YOU'RE OBSTRUCTING. YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL, TOO. >> YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL. YOU KEEP PLAYING cuz you >> It's right here. IT'S RIGHT HERE. >> OKAY. LET ME WAIT. I don't see where it says arrest. >> Not bondable. Must sit 20 days in jail. >> Okay. Where's the arrest part at? >> This is a warrant for arrest. Open up. >> And you are Nick Zingel? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Open it up. And you're going to be taking him to see a judge right away, right? I'm going to take him to jail. He's going to see a judge in the morning. >> You're not going to see a judge, right? Right. >> This is how it works. It's going to work the same time as the same way as last time. >> And which way was that? >> He goes to jail and then he sees the judge in the morning. >> Open the door. Open the door. >> I'm opening it. Don't touch my door handle. I got it. He can get out. And do not use excessive force. And I'm not playing with any of you. And I want all your badge numbers. >> You have mine already? >> Okay. What's his? >> I don't know. OPEN THE DOOR NOW. >> WHAT'S YOUR BADGE NUMBER? Open the door. Open. Come on, bun. >> Okay, he's coming. >> He's not. QUIT REACHING FOR QUIT REACHING. OPEN THE DOOR. >> MAKE HIM STAND down cuz I'm not playing. >> I can't make HIM DO ANYTHING. GET OUT, BEN. >> Get out. >> Okay, he going to get out. I'm about to unlock. Yeah, I'm following him right now. And if you use excessive force, it's your ass. >> Okay, he got the door. >> Step out. Turn. >> Turn around. Face the car. >> Okay, he is. Okay. And don't use excessive force cuz I'm watching your ass. Take >> my coat off. Take my coat off >> here. Give me Let me get his coat. >> Take my coat off so she can get my coat. >> Yeah, we got it. >> Now Zo, you know you a defendant to the lawsuit right now. >> And I hope you ain't got your out. And I want your badge numbers now. Put it right there. Here. Hand it to me. Hand it to me. Then go. >> You want to go for obstruction? >> Yep. >> Ain't no obstruction. I don't care what you think. DON'T GET pull on me. I'LL GET OUT. GET OUT OF THE CAR NOW. GET OUT. I'M GETTING OUT. >> GET OUT OF THE CAR NOW. >> DON'T REACH YOUR CAR. SHE'S UNDER CAR, >> DUDE. GET OFF HER, MAN. I'm stepping up. >> No. Don't do that, [ __ ] >> Turn around. >> You got me up >> and you I got it FROM ME LIKE THAT. >> NO, DON'T YOU [ __ ] ME. DON'T GRAB MY WRIST. CRAZY, BRO. SEE, you just told me to do that. >> You know what? Don't ask for obstruction. >> NO, I DIDN'T OBSTRUCT. >> WHAT IS SHE OBSTRUCTING, GIRL? YOU KNEW you were under. She showed up in a car to pick you up and get you out of there. >> Get him out of here. >> That does not make any sense, man. You knew you had warrants. You barricaded yourself inside. >> Not barricade myself. >> You locked yourself in there. >> Dude, did you see what your officer did to me? >> That make any sense? Sit down. >> All this didn't need to happen tonight. No, I really didn't. >> Why didn't he come out? >> I was Why are you even coming to get me? For one, I just picked him up from work. What? >> You were out there. You locked the door. >> I did not lock the door in your face. My door is always locked, bro. >> Him >> off rip. He told me to come pick him up from work. I don't have to lie about I'm counsel. I actually have my car. >> I don't have to take >> Why didn't you just come out? Why'd you get your sister involved in this, man? >> Man, look, the the stuff that happened to me last week, dude, I afraid he was going to do something to me. I'm not even lying. I wasn't even bothering nobody and I was afraid that someone was gonna do something. >> I know you have warm in the car. All right. >> Get back in the car. >> You got big wrists. It's just something that happens. All right. [clears throat] >> I'm not I'm not I'm not insubordinate at all. Oh, can you let my window open cuz I don't see through my car for your search. They they don't have permission to search my car. >> Okay. Get in the car. Shoes, pillows. His sister is more of one, but yeah, they're the what? Morris Nation or whatever. and they have already sued the judge. Well, both judges up here, the law director, all that, the whole pretty much whole police department. I don't know what they're trying to prove. >> Across three separate incidents, Ben was charged with failure to identify, obstructing official business, multiple counts of fictitious registration, driving with a suspended license, failure to comply with the police officer, and operating an unsafe vehicle, while his self-proclaimed attorney was charged with obstruction. Now, that crazy man got what was coming to him, but he's still nothing compared to the next sovereign citizen called Leon, who quickly escalated a simple traffic stop into a serious multi-charge arrest with long-term consequences. >> Leon, don't do not put your car in drive. >> The police. >> Hey, >> thank you. >> Get the police, sheriff. Sheriff, now >> they're they just they just diseded me. On December the 8th, 2025, an officer noticed a vehicle on the highway displaying questionable [music] tags that didn't look legitimate. The driver, Leon, was already familiar to law enforcement. And as soon as the stop began, it was clear that this wouldn't be routine. >> Can you roll your window down? Thank you so much. So, the reason I pulled you over is your plates. I'm not able to get them to come back or anything. May I take it so I can see it? Is that okay? >> Yeah. You're going to want to call the sheriff. >> Okay. Can I see the paper you were trying to let me see? Is that okay? >> Anything about this car or anything about what's going on? >> I don't I don't know what's what's with the car. >> Okay. What's going on with the car? >> I'm not on my way to get breakfast in 5 minutes. I'll give this to you and you can check it out. You can do what you want. I'm not getting out of this car and you can throw any paperwork you want. for >> I didn't I didn't ask you to get out of the car though, right? >> Yeah, I know. I know. I've tried. You know what? >> I'm sorry. I haven't met you before, so I don't know what your >> deal for 5 years. I have every piece of paper on the map. >> Okay. >> That shows that jurisdiction over here. >> Am I able to see that? I >> Thank you so much. >> When the officer politely began questioning, [music] the agitated Leon immediately launched into a well-worn narrative. You got the bill of vaccine and the police department $30 million. >> That's a lot of money. >> Yeah, it is. Okay. So, that's what's going on. I I'm so tired of this. >> I know my rights. I know exactly where I've gone for 3 years now. That number that you see. >> Okay. >> It's back here. Let me give you that, too, because >> here you go. >> Is your name Leon? I just want to make sure I've got the right. It's the highlight. >> Okay. This is this is what that number means. You see this number? That's now you said that that number that you this number that you're talking about >> is this man that I gave on this date. >> I told them my jurisdiction. >> This person? >> No. >> Sorry. >> This this is the tracking number. >> Oh, I got you. >> That's the tracking number. Okay. >> So, now that you you ask me this is what you're dealing with. >> I don't know those people. I'm sorry. >> There you go. And that's what the number means. cuz they were told it was their duty and obligation to tell everybody who I was and they haven't they threw me in jail for 18 days. Okay. >> I'm not having >> And 18 days in in Lake County. >> No, in Kenosha. They have the $30 million, too. You want to see them all? >> I'm sorry. I never wanted this interaction. These are all the $30 million leans I have. Okay. >> That's a lot. >> Well, and you know what? You know what? You can't >> Do you live in Colorado now? >> You can't get leans like that on bogus stuff. >> Okay. Do you live in Colorado? Because I see it all says Colorado. >> I got to get going. So, please go check it out. Let me get out of here or arrest me. Do what you got to do. >> Despite the officer's calm approach, Leon aggressively tried to dictate the situation. With each refusal, it became clearer that this wasn't about paperwork. It was about control. And it was heading toward a breaking point. >> Do you have any type of identification or a name or anything? >> I'll find out who I am. >> Okay. >> Oh, here. You know what? You know, I'm sorry. I'll calm down. Okay. >> I appreciate that very much. Thank you. >> You better. >> You've been very cordial so far. >> Jurisdiction is that's the problem. >> Okay. >> Here's the laws are up here right now. >> Okay. >> See that everybody knows about including the governor as Friday. >> Okay. >> So, these are the law. You can just look at them. Well, you want to take a picture? >> Oh, okay. Well, I I can look up the laws. That's not an issue. >> Okay. Do you have insurance on the car at all or No, >> like car insurance. Sorry. That's what I meant. >> You know what? And and now you ask me, I'm also indemnified. This is beyond any this is this is beyond insurance companies. Okay. >> Okay. >> There. May I have that? >> I am. Yes. That's my American State National Credential. Now, you might want to read this part. It says, "Do not detain or do not interrogate." >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> An injured party. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> You're welcome. I'm sorry. I'm trying to calm down. >> Give me one second. Okay. Here's this. I'm going to >> This is This is what I went through in 24. Okay. >> And he's Nicholas. >> Well, whatever's last. >> Oh, I see. Alo pajanas. We have a few Nicholases. That's why you can have that backpack, you know. >> Okay. >> So, this I've already been through it. Everybody's in the front. >> Okay. >> Everybody I'm talking 100% everybody I've interacted with about this stuff. Okay. >> I hear you. I hear what you're saying. >> I hope so. >> Okay. Give me one second. I'll be right back. Okay. >> Well, you know what? I'm going to call the sheriff here in a minute. So, >> Okay. Can you just give me one second and I'll come back and talk to you? If you don't mind, I'm calling them. You got my right. >> Okay. >> Totally understandable. If you're what? >> I'm calling Michelle to take care of you. Okay. >> Can you just give me one second? Is that okay? >> Can you just hang off for one second for me? Thank you so much. >> With backup and a supervisor on scene, officers made repeated efforts to slow things down. Tensions spiked as Leon escalated his claims, pushing the encounter toward a moment no one could walk back from. I need you to turn your car off and step out. >> Why not? >> Did you call the sheriff? >> I need you to step out. I'm giving you a lawful order. Step out of the car. Car. >> You have an injured party. >> Pennsylvania vers Mims. Get out of the car now or I'm going to make take you out. >> Get out of the car. Hey, Leon. Leon. >> Leon. Don't do not put your car in drive. >> Get out of the car. >> You're under arrest. Okay. Step out of the car. I'll let you I'll let you make as many calls at our police department. Step out of the car. You're under arrest. >> I I don't know who you are. I want three piecations from you. >> Do you have three pieces of identification? >> I'm going to break your window. Okay, sir. I don't want to do that. I need you to step out of the car. We'll call the sheriff at the station. >> I need the sheriff here. Then I'll talk. >> We'll call him at the station, but you need to get out. We can't do that out here. Oh, is this the sheriff's office? I need I need the sheriff right now. I need the sheriff right now. >> I I want to step out saying anything more. I want the sheriff. >> Okay, step out of the vehicle. You don't have to say anything. >> I need the sheriff right now. >> Leon, you're under arrest. I want to make this as quick as possible for you. >> I need the sheriff. >> Step out of the car >> or I'm going to break your window. >> You do not want me to break your window. >> No, I don't. I want you. >> I want you to step out of the car. >> If you listen, >> I'm giving you multiple >> four police officers here. I don't know who they are. I need to >> You just said it. Road and uh road. >> Leon, I'm going to break your window >> because they're ready to break the window. They all have gun. My life is threatened. I demand a sheriff. >> Leon. >> Leon. >> My life is threatened. >> Unlock the door >> right now. I'm on State Park Road just off the door. >> Leon, come on, man. >> I can take this down. >> State Park Road just off the >> cuz it's down some. >> State Park. >> Go for it. >> Okay. Wrecking my car. Wrecking my car. >> You got it. >> My car. >> No. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Leon, open the door. >> Just open the door, brother. >> You're under arrest. >> Just deal with it. Act like an adult. Come on. You're actually breaking the >> Hey, did this happen last time? Leon, come on. >> The cops. >> The police. Police. >> Get out of here. >> He's got his foot on the gas. Get your Get your arm out. >> Get out of the car. >> Thank you. >> Get the police here. Sheriff now. They're they just they just me just me. It's >> not unlocking. >> I'm glad this is all you got. Are your Are your cameras on? >> Oh, great. >> Hey, >> keep your hands up. Keep your hands up. >> Stop reaching around. >> Oh, yeah. You guys are just looking for some reason. I'm sure. >> No, we're not. We're trying to take you into custody. We told you multiple times you're under arrest. >> I need I need either a council of law here. An actual council of law. I think you should turn the car off so the electronic isn't working. >> Don't knee my hand. >> You're in my vehicle. You're my property. >> Rightfully so. >> Officers were forced to act as the situation turned physical and Leon was taken into custody amid loud accusations and legal threats. >> I need a sheriff. The cops are >> I'm not resisting. >> Yes, you are 100%. Am I under arrest? >> Yes, >> I told you. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Don't punch them up. >> Who's got cuffs? >> Don't grab my hand. Don't grab my hand. >> I need to spit the key. >> Well, you say you need >> Just wait and we'll let you spit on the ground. I don't want >> spit on your car. Don't spit on us. Otherwise, we're putting >> spit on you. I just need to spit. >> Okay. >> Well, let let go my thumb, please. >> You know, thank you. >> Okay. I hope we guys All right. >> Yes, it's all being recorded. >> The yellow button is the >> So, you denied me a sheriff. >> You did on American State. Do >> you have anything on you that's going to poke me, stick me, or hurt me in the >> You know what? No, I don't. >> And all that paperwork goes with me. Every bit of it. That's everything guys have to say right there. >> So all that I'm going to grab all that stuff and I'm taking it with you. >> We'll grab it for you. >> I'm going to tell you which ones to grab or I'll make sure. >> You know what? What are you doing? That's my >> searching you. >> You got my paperwork. You're the fault. >> Come to think of it. >> I just recognize your name. >> Come right here. Okay. >> Well, this is going to happen again. But now it's 30 m. Sorry. >> Hey, wait a minute. I got to get that paperwork. I have to get that paper. I No, I need the All right. The big folder and the small folder on the seat before I get in. Can I see it? >> Cuz we're going to go and we're going to catalog every piece that's in there that I tried to offer you. >> I photograph everything. >> Oh, good. That's great. I'm glad. All my paperwork. >> Watch your leg. >> Everything that's in the car, >> Leon. >> I need that paperwork now. >> That's my That's my >> Watch face. >> Then there's a smaller folder on your seat, please. >> Okay. So, we got your phone. >> Do [music] you want your passport also? I grabbed the ID that you had with your paperwork, but do you want your passport as well? It's in there. >> Yeah, please. Okay. I'm going to put it in the big black binder. It's with your phone. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> No problem. >> Leon was arrested and charged with driving with a [music] suspended license, operating an uninsured motor vehicle, resisting arrest, obstruction, two counts of aggravated battery on the law enforcement officer, and possession of [music] fictitious license plates. Up next is a psycho sovereign citizen who tried to threaten the officers only to face the consequences. >> I'm asking you to make contact with me on the other side of the vehicle so I can talk with you. Okay. >> Windows. >> Ma'am, can you step out of the vehicle so I can speak with you? >> Mike, stop. >> You're under arrest. Open the door. >> STEP OUT. YOU'RE GETTING HOSED. STEP OUT NOW. >> OC. On January the 15th, 2023, [music] a routine patrol in Lancaster turned chaotic when an officer witnessed a minor crash, followed by a male passenger jumping out and allegedly [music] pepper- spraying the other driver, prompting immediate intervention. >> Hi there. My name is Sergeant Thirsten. Ma'am, I'm talking to you. You're the driver. Ma'am, I'm asking you to roll the window down to speak with me. You're the driver of this vehicle. >> Can you open the door so I can talk to you? Open the door. >> Open the door. >> Ma'am, I'm trying to speak with you. >> Okay. One second here. Ma'am, I'm trying to speak with you. You're the driver of the vehicle. I'm trying to talk. I'm asking you to make contact with me on the other side of the vehicle so I can talk with you. Okay. window. >> Ma'am, can you step out of the vehicle so I can speak with you? >> Ma'am, I'm asking you to speak. >> Ma'am, I will be breaking the window >> and ask and pulling you out of the vehicle if you don't cooperate. >> We are allowed to be securing our person. >> I'm asking you to open the door on that side constitutional right. Do you not understand that? >> Ma'am, I'm asking you for an identification. >> Open the door. I'm going to break the window. I'm going to break the window and assist you out of the vehicle. Open the door and speak to me. Open the door and speak to me. I'm asking you to identify you. Identify yourself. Do you have a driver's license? [music] I'm asking you to open the door and speak to me. >> Now, it was clear that the sovereign citizen couple weren't just being [music] difficult. They were actively trying to dodge accountability like the law didn't apply to them. The officers began planning their arrest without delay, but a sudden discovery made the situation far more delicate. >> He's asking if you walked OC to pull it into >> Hey, uh, >> there's somebody in the back seat. I don't know if it's a child. >> One one second here, Chris. >> Childale? >> It's a male. >> Younger. Young boy. >> We have a uh sovereign citizen type person. So, here's the plan. We got three people in the car. Hey, let's uh >> You want me to shut it down? >> I want you to shut it down. Yep. >> 47 1187. We'll just shut east westbound traffic down right there. Uh then there's three people in the car. Two males, one female driver refusing to identify themselves. They're saying they're holding up paper saying they're sovereign citizens. We're going to uh make entry into the front. get the driver out and then we'll uh I'd like to hook the front passenger up for obstructing with us. >> I've got the window breaker so I'm going to go ahead and crack driver >> out first. I'll take >> So I need wait for my loan to get here >> but uh looks like they're going to have less lethal but I'm going to uh we need to have someone to uh cover and we have a couple of up to make contact here. young younger male in the back seat. >> All right. >> When we open when we go take the driver, let him know, put his hands behind his back. I want to hit him with OC. >> Here's a here's also >> uh once we we're going to have to get her out and >> he's got a knife with one of the guys. So that's why I want someone to be covered. >> After weighing all the factors, the officer realized talk wasn't getting them anywhere. So they decided to switch tactics and turn up the heat in a way the couple never saw coming. traffic. >> You're under arrest. Open the door. Stop. >> You're under arrest. Open the door. >> STEP OUT. YOU'RE GETTING HOSED. STEP OUT NOW. STEP OUT NOW. >> STEP OUT. >> You're under arrest. Step out of the vehicle now. Step out of the vehicle now. OC. >> STEP OUT NOW. Step out now. >> Step out. You're going to run out of air. >> This YouTube live. >> They're trying to get to the bus. >> Step out of the car. >> Step out of the vehicle over here. >> Step out now. >> Step out of it. the vehicle now. >> Get out. >> Put your hands behind your back. You are under arrest. Hands behind your back. You're under arrest. Open up. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> I'm not resisting. I'm not blaming you. >> You are under arrest. Do not resist arrest. >> Resisting. >> You're under arrest. >> Hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. Throw your arrest. >> I'm not resisting. I'm not. >> Hey, don't treat my 15-year-old like that. >> He's not doing anything. >> Give him a second. >> Be quiet. You're under arrest. >> None of us are resisting. >> Be quiet. You're under arrest. >> None of us are resisting. >> None of us are resisting. >> Ma'am, what is your name? Ma'am, >> you just This should have never happened. This should have never happened. You should have cooperated with us. >> Once sanity was [music] restored, the whole family headed to jail. But before the cuffs clicked shut, the officer had one final question. >> Thanks, Judith. [music] Right, Judith? This is a bad situation. I don't know what else to say. This This is terrible. This should never have happened. And my question to you is why did you let this get that far? >> In the end, the couple was charged with assault, obstruction, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct. Moving on to Angela, a sovereign citizen whose defiance and arrogance earned her a one-way ticket to jail. >> Yep. Let's go to court. Let's go to jail. Stick your finger in my one time. I wish you would. >> YELLING AT ME. I'M COMMON LAW NATIONAL. >> THAT'S FINE. >> You had no jurisdiction over me. Recorded and I am a sovereign national. >> Sometime back in April 2023, deputies in Monroe County, Florida were called to the courtyard Marriott to help remove an intoxicated guest. Instead of cooperating, she pulled the sovereign citizen card, claiming officers had no jurisdiction over her. The sheriff's office, however, had a very different opinion. If you wrong, >> I'm going to either remove you from the property or you're going to [music] go >> remove. I'm arrested cuz I trespass where I belong. >> Do you want to trespass on the property? >> I I mean, I don't want to be a douche, but I I She can't come back here. So, yeah, kind of do. [music] >> And he even came out and said, "Leave her alone. I paid for the room." >> Nope. That's not what he said. >> That's not what he said at all. Actually, >> I I asked him to leave the room. I had security come get her. This guy won't even give me his name and his badge number, but he took me off. >> I've already told it to you multiple times. >> What is your name and your badge number? And what is your name and your badge number? >> Deputy Pope Sierra 0616. >> What is your name and your badge number? >> I've given it to you now. This >> Oh, you're not going to give me your name. >> Deputy Pope Sierra 0616. You can't remember though because you're too heavily intoxicated. >> Deputy Pope Sierra0616. >> This duty bag over here. Same thing. My name is Sergeant Hill with the Monro County Sheriff's Office. My badge number is S9106. >> Thank you, YouTubers. >> Bravo. Bravo. >> Let's go to jail. Come on, do this. >> Right there. Cheers. >> Hi, Amanda. >> I'm not Amanda. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. What's your name? I don't have to tell you my I'm not a problem. What are you? >> 3351 33. >> The business has requested that we remove you from the property. So yeah, you are a problem. And at this point, you're required to give me identification. So it's either >> No, I don't. And I don't know what your problem is. >> Ma'am, there's no reason to come off like that. All right. You're being trespassed from the property. >> I'm not trespassing. I'm staying in a room. >> You're not. You've been kicked out of the room. >> Awesome. >> Okay. So >> I know this is all recorded. >> Yep. We're audio cameras on a >> property. the property once you trespassed. Okay, they want >> I'm not trespassing. I'm allowed to stay here. >> If you would let me talk, okay, >> don't talk to me like that. >> You have been kicked out of the house. >> What is your name and your badge number? And what is your name and your badge number? >> Sierra 0616. >> Awesome. >> There you go. >> Thank you. Why am I getting kicked off of doing nothing wrong? >> Because the property wants you off of their >> Who's the property? >> The property. >> Where is the property? >> He was already trying to talk to you. Who is he in the property? >> So, listen, ma'am. This is what's going on. >> Call the sheriff right now in your No, no, no. >> So, this is going to happen. I'm going to either remove your property or you're going to >> You're going to remove and you're going to >> right now. No. Right now, you're violating Florida State statute. You are required to leave this property. >> All right. Listen to me. I'm going to make this very clear. All right. >> I'm going to make it very clear. Call people who are your authority and I have no problem doing that. >> I am a woman. I'm a national and I don't have time for your I can do anything. I'm a woman as well. >> Okay, then what is your name and your badge number? Cuz it's all recorded to you, honey. >> Deputy Foster 0456. >> What is your problem? Why are you here? >> I've explained to you that they do not. >> No, you haven't. I don't understand what the your problem is. >> I don't have a problem. >> Then why are you here? >> Because the property >> This is recorded. No, honey. No. Why are you here? >> The >> Because the god property recorded your bull. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Live on national. No, I will totally cooperate. Let's do this. >> Okay. >> The property manager wants you off of the property. [music] >> Okay, I don't have a problem with that. Where's the property manager? Who are you and you? >> You have a little too much to drink tonight. You think? >> I don't need anything to drink. >> We're putting it in plain English and very black and white for you. >> If you do not leave, you will be subject to arrest. You will go to jail. You're going to go to jail. >> What crime am I committing? >> Trespassing. >> You are trespassing and you are not leaving. I am in a room that I'm allowed to be here that somebody paid for. Oh, so that guy said he didn't pay for a room which is all recorded. >> I'm sure there's a room paid for, but you are not allowed to be here anymore. >> I don't mind if we not be here. I don't want to be here. >> Okay, then let's get off the property before you go to jail. I know you don't want that to happen. >> I'm not going to go to jail. I didn't do anything. >> I'm telling you, you're going to go to jail if you don't leave. >> Why would I go to jail? >> Because you are not leaving the property upon request. >> Oh, you What is your name and >> I just You're too intoxicated to remember. I'm not in touch with >> Honey, this is all recorded. What is your name and your badge number right now? Call your sheriff and your boss. >> I want to speak to your boss. >> You understand that? You're not reporting anything. >> You understand that I'm not playing your game. >> Okay. Right now, >> you're going to go to jail. >> No, I'm not. >> Yes, you are. >> And if I do, you're going to pay for it, honey. I will lovely gladly do it. This feimo is requesting his supervisor. If you could come over here, please >> I've given it to you now. This code 00616. You can't remember though because you're too heavily into remember. It's all recorded. >> Hey. Uhuh. >> What? >> There is no need for that. >> Disorderly intoxication and refusing. >> I am not drunk or just >> Oh my god. >> Is that what we're going to do today? Her boldness only grew louder with every passing second. But in the middle of that chaos, a hotel guest stepped in. That was the push the deputies needed to end the back and forth and hasten their tango with the intoxicated sovereign [music] lady. >> She was with me. >> Okay. >> I wanted her out of my room. Correct. >> Yep. She's being trespassed from the property. She's not >> threatening. >> What the you're doing and you doing and you're being a civil woman. I'm sorry, but you're being decent. This mother over here with his >> No, I've already got you recorded too, honey. >> Ma'am, >> did you take a >> No. You >> did you take an oath? What is your name, mister? >> You're going to go to jail on the >> What's your name? >> If you step down, put your hands behind your back. >> I don't need to step around. >> I didn't do nothing. Oh, okay. You >> stand up. >> What did I do? Do I ask? >> I asked your name and your badge number. >> Okay. >> You're going to have one of these. >> All right. Let's go. >> Off the property. >> Off the property. >> Yes. And now you're going to jail. >> I didn't do anything. [music] >> I didn't commit a crime. >> You're committing a crime right now as we speak. >> What am I committing a crime for? Act. >> No, I'm not. Oh, thank God I'm recording your >> Yep. We have body cameras and in car cameras. >> Good. I'm glad you do cuz you are going to be without a job tomorrow. That's fine. >> I cannot wait. Carl and Virginia. >> Yep. >> What crime did I commit for committing disorderly intoxication and not request? Yes, you are. >> Thank you for recording what you're doing. You're very welcome. I cannot wait to take your You are >> Thank you. >> Stop moving. >> Stop moving. >> No. Talk to me. >> You are going to not calm down. >> Oh, yeah. I'm calm. I didn't do anything and my daughter recorded everything from Michigan on what you're doing right now. >> It's all audio and visually recorded as well. >> Good. I hope it is. Carl Lince and Dan Toby. Yep. Let's go to court. Let's go to jail. Stick your finger on my time. I wish you would. >> I really don't want to do that or I'm not you got to do what's your name and your badge number multiple times. >> What is your name and badge number? Cuz you ain't going to have A JOB AT ME. >> I'M COMING LAW. >> THAT'S FINE. >> You had no jurisdiction over me. >> All right, that's cool. Open your hand. >> You're going to jail. >> Take my I don't give a I'm going to owe you and I'm going to have a lot of money. Let's do this [ __ ] Sounds good. >> I cannot wait. Let's go to jail. >> Let's go to jail, [ __ ] >> Although it looked like she had just way too much booze in her system, there was also something else off about her. The cops couldn't wrap their heads around it just yet and were hoping that further investigation would reveal whatever secrets that she was concealing. >> I cannot wait to hold you. Y'all mother owe me money, MOTHER. YOU BETTER CALL YOUR BOSS. CALLING YOUR BOSS. Call your boss. >> Come on. >> Yeah. This is disorienting to leave all day. All day. >> Yes. Without a doubt. >> That's why when she stood up, I was like, "Nope." >> I'm going to go see if he'll take her stuff for the night. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> I cannot wait to call your boss. >> SOUNDS GOOD. >> SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> CALL HIM NOW. YOU BETTER CALL your mother. >> This is her daughter right here. Can you please tell her what's going on? She's back in Michigan. Can you please tell her? Her name is Alyssa. >> Alyssa, this is Deputy Foster with the sheriff's office. >> Hello. Can you hear me? >> There's >> Yeah, I can hear you now. >> Hey, sir. >> I would correct multiple times. >> Not the sheriff. It's all recorded. No, we're working on it now. We kind of just got here and made contact and she just started acting like this. >> What's your badge number, honey? What's your badge number, honey? >> WHERE THE IS YOUR >> I'M GOING TO ROLL UP YOUR WINDOW cuz you're very annoying. >> OH, AM I DOING IT? [screaming] >> ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON. LET ME JUST ROLL THIS UP. She keeps screaming. >> Okay, so um as of right now, your mom is going to jail for trespassing and disorderly in talks. Okay, she is causing an extreme scene. She is cussing both of me and my other deputy out and she is very violent. Okay. >> Tell her who called. Can you please tell her who called you guys? Anyways, >> the Key West jail. Yes, ma'am. You're very welcome, >> ma'am. I'm sorry. >> No, no, no. It's okay. >> Um, >> this is her stuff. I guess she's got money. I gave her $700 to get back to uh Tampa. >> She's not my girlfriend. She's not my wife. She's a threat back in Michigan. I thought I'll come to take her on vacation to West. >> Okay. Yeah. >> All right. Can you just do me a favor? Can you make sure none of her stuff is by that chair? Make sure this is all of it. >> Thank you. >> So, I'll secure her. Um, let's secure her me and a seat belt and then if we have to go to a hobble, that's what we'll do. >> You guys, >> no, we're good. >> She's just freaking out like this. So, I'm going to have to put her in a seat belt. And then she might she's probably going to spit or something. >> So, this is going to be really hard to do cuz my car doesn't have seat belts like yours. You're going to have someone's going to have to reach over and hand it to me. I'm going to have to buckle it from there. >> No, no, no. So, from here >> over there. >> It's on that side. Oh, no. It's on this side, right? >> So, this is what's going to happen. I can either come here and I can do a chin tuck and tuck her face in because she's either going to headbutt or she's going to spit. >> She don't bite. >> Yeah. >> Oh, well, I mean, >> she can't. >> She can't. [laughter] >> All right. You ready? >> Yeah. >> Hello. >> Are you going to start behaving? >> I didn't misbehave. >> Uh-uh. Stay in the car. >> Don't talk to me like that. >> Wait, what side? What do you want to do? >> Your ass is >> all right. >> Oh, it is going to be fine. >> Is it locked? >> Yeah. >> Why am I arrested or did you >> Now you're being arrested for disorderly conduct business after trespassing. >> I am so glad this is recorded. You dumb piece of >> I can't do it from this side. >> Let's go. >> What's your name and bad number? You taking off the bubbish? >> I'm Sergeant. Oh, yeah. >> This is my gloss. >> Okay. You know, like I just wanted to eat for once. >> Did you eat? >> It's in the It's in my seat. >> All right. So, >> your teeth >> are in that glove. >> You don't want them. >> All right. So, I need a sworn written statement from the business. >> While the deputies focused on wrapping up the details and clearing [music] the scene, this drunken sovereign citizen was already cooking up her next scheme, determined to stretch the chaos just as far as it could go. >> She wasn't trespassing. She was with me. >> Okay. I know. I know. >> But you removed her from the room. Business requested her to leave. >> I I asked her to leave the room. I had security come get her. I gave her money to get a hotel and then ride back. >> She's overly drunk. But she wasn't. >> She's going to jail. Trust me. >> We advised her that she had to leave. >> The hotel called her called us and told us they wanted her off property. >> He told her to leave. >> She didn't leave. She goes to jail. >> Okay. >> What does she What is there anything I need to do to mail her off car to get her back to her aunt's house? tomorrow. >> Tomorrow you can call the jail after 9:00 a.m. probably around 10:00 a.m. and they should have a bond for you. >> Okay. >> I appreciate it. Yep. I'm sorry I had both of this. >> It is what it is. >> It's our job, man. That's our job. >> Not a big deal. >> What is she heading? >> She's smashing her hand. It's fine. Okay. >> All right. Okay. All right. Let's go get before you roll. Let's make sure we have our statements. Come on. Let's go to jail. Let's go to jail. I'mma times your BY THREE. YOU DUMB MOTHER. What is your badge number? OH, I GOT IT. DUMB ASS. You are >> Hey, Pope. >> Yep. >> Ask her very nicely to give you her name and date of birth. I understand. I know what I'm asking for. >> All right. Right. Right. Watch. Let's >> Yeah. Yep. >> Excuse me, ma'am. >> What's your first and last name and your date of birth? >> Why do you need to know? >> Because you're going to jail, so I need to know. >> I'm not. Why am I going to jail? >> All right. Excuse me. >> Hi, ma'am. I'm Sergeant Hill with Monro County Sheriff's Office. I'm the supervisor. >> Why am I going to jail? >> Because you are disorderly conduct. The business asked you to leave. >> It's all recorded and I am a sovereign national citizen. I have a right to be here. Just pay for me to >> That's awesome. Now, I want you to listen to what I have to say. >> I'm going to take care of >> I want you to listen to what I say. That's fine. You can try. >> I will. >> Listen, here's what I'm going to ask you. >> You are lawfully under arrest at this time. >> Not what law at this time. At this time, woman, woman, Angela, do not >> you. What is your first name, last name, and date of birth? >> I don't have to answer your question. So what you're saying at this time is you're refusing to identify yourself to law enforcement officer >> badge number mother. >> So what you're saying is you're REFUSING TO IDENTIFY YOUR NAME AND >> MY NAME IS SERGEANT Hill with the Monro County Sheriff's Office. My badge number is S9106. >> I please have your name and date of birth. >> No you cannot. >> Okay. You are now arrested for obstruction of justice and notification. >> Failure to give you exhibit upon request. >> More money for me. MORE MONEY FOR ME. MORE MONEY FOR ME. TO CONFIRM you are failing to identify yourself upon request to a law enforcement officer. >> Thank you. It's all recorded. >> I'm not I'm asking you. Will you be willing to give me your name and date of birth? >> No, I will not. Okay. >> Um, wait. We're still getting the statement from them. As long as I hear it verbally, then you're >> you're rolling. I mean, you're rolling either way because it's this early in >> coming back up here. >> Okay. >> She refused to give me her name in the interview. Of >> course, >> if you can imagine. She said she was a sovereign citizen. Actually, we [music] can get her for not identifying herself, too. >> Right. What you going to do when they fall for you? >> She was screaming at us. [music] She fell out. >> That's awesome. >> Did you get that on body? >> Yep. >> Can we freeze frame that for Pope? >> Hopefully. >> How you doing? >> Good. >> Is this hand sanitizer? >> Yes. >> That sounds amazing right now. I haven't touched anything. I touched seat belt, I guess. I know I put on before. Hi. >> It's good stuff. >> Can you let a segment about what happened? >> Sure. >> As the deputies worked on piecing together her details and figuring out their next move, she pushed things up in the squad car, showing off the highest form of petty rebellion from the back seat. >> 314, you're clear to go ahead and roll. >> Copy. >> Let's do it. >> Did you go to the bathroom on yourself? I did not. >> Not at all. >> Are you sure? >> I am positive. Would you like a check? >> Hey. Um, this is in here. Did she just go back? I don't know. Okay. >> Oh, no. This What's your name and your badge number without a job? >> Take me to jail. I wish you would. >> You're going to jail. >> Oh, I don't give a a Got no reason to do it. You might want to check with mother. Let's go to jail, HONEY. LET'S GO TO JAIL. >> WHO SHOULD I CHECK WITH? >> You are. Let's go to jail. Whatever you want to do, honey. Let's go to jail. Is that your wish? Oh, I don't contract with mother. >> I don't know what that means. >> Yeah, you do. >> No, I don't. >> Did you take a oath of affirmation? >> I did. >> What's your name and badge number? You took the oath? >> Sierra 0616. >> Cool. You took the oath of affirmation to protect my constitutional rights THAT YOU'RE VIOLATING RIGHT NOW. >> NO, I AM NOT. >> YEAH, YOU ARE. >> YOU GOT BROKEN FOUR STATES. >> I cannot wait to see you tomorrow, honey. >> I'm going to jail. >> I would love to go to jail cuz it's going to cost a lot of money. >> You are going to jail >> and I didn't do anything wrong. So, add it to the story. >> I don't contract with the government. I'm a god woman. I woman Angela do not contract with you. What the you're doing right now is illegal as Let's go to jail, honey. Let's go do it. >> Contract. I don't know. I don't know what that means. >> Well, you should educate yourself cuz you're about to be ruining your life. >> Are you Are you a sovereign citizen? >> I'm a national. >> Yeah, me as well. Everyone else is. >> No, you're not. >> I don't know what that means. >> Exactly. >> 3123. Come straight to the station. >> Thank you. Let's do this. I'm famous on YouTube, honey. You done yourself. Thank you. Let me out of this car. >> Let's go. >> Come on. We need to tighten it up. >> There's no reason to. I didn't do anything wrong. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. Did you feel that way about it? Go ahead and bring your feet on out for me. Go ahead and bring your feet on out. Okay. >> Pull your pants up a little bit, Angela. >> Oh, yeah. I peed them myself. Thank you. >> Okay. >> What's your name, Dr. Dre? >> Number. >> Oh, can I? What's your name and badge number? After everything finally simmered down, she was charged [music] with trespassing, resisting an officer without violence and disorderly conduct.