I had that DC called on me multiple times. >> Okay. You have any ores? >> Yeah. >> When you're being bad or you're in trouble, what does mom do? >> Mom, your money fell off the fence. I told y'all to stay off the fence. Boys is going to be boys. >> Did mom tell you to tell us that? >> She did. >> Who get everybody? >> You're going to go to the ground. On March 7th, 2024, officers and child protective services responded to a residence following a report of a young family member with a visible mark that was allegedly caused by the mother. >> Hey there. >> Hi. >> Are you Miss Venique? >> Madison. >> My name is Madison. I work at DCS. We got reporting for some concerns about the baby. That part is anonymous. We don't call Okay, you got to call for me. >> That part we can't share. >> Why? >> It's anonymous. The foreigners have their own side of things and we just come out and see if we can make sure they're okay. Talk to you about whatever's going on. I have some papers for you. Is it okay if you come in and I just lay my eyes on the kids? >> Are you Vinnie? >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> So, I have my card for you. I'm going to give you my card and I'm going to show you this paper that we have as well. It's called the rights and responsibility. So, it goes over the DCF process, what that looks like. >> I already know what it looks like. I had the DCF calling on me multiple times. >> Okay, awesome. So, you can have this paper. On the back is my name says Madison and then my phone number. Then it has my supervisor's information as well. And then I have another paper for you. And this one is going to be for you to sign. Um, and it basically goes over firearm safety. So, it talks about if you guys own a gun, we just ask that it's in a safe away from the kids so they can't get into it. Um, sleep safety for little ones, making sure they have their own cribs, no blankets, no pillows, anything in there. Water safety, making sure there's supervision around pools, ponds, lakes, also toilets. And then it asks, is anybody deaf or heart of hearing in the home? No. Okay. And are you guys part of any Native American tribe, immunization, anything like that? Okay. All right. So, I'm going to sign this. You could sign it for me as well, just to show that I talked with you about it. Thank you. So, our concern or the report that had come in had concerns for the kids with injuries. So, I need to take a look at them and make sure that they're okay. Have you seen them with injuries at all recently or know what that would be talking about? >> Probably know where the call came from like I explained to them. I have boys, you know, boys going to be boys. So with them climbing the fence over there and me telling them to get down, don't climb the fence that they want to climb the fence and you know he didn't he fell and everything. So I told him about that. Other than that, no. >> Okay. So he has from falling up from climbing the fence. >> Where on his body is it >> on his leg in between or on the back of his something like that. >> Okay. Is it a scratch or like a >> No, it's cuz he actually fell off the fence without me. I mean, the first time he did it, but the second time he climbed back up there, you know, them trying to follow other people, them the brothers and >> so all the kids were climbing on the fence. >> Yeah. It wasn't just mine, it was hers, too. They were >> Oh, yeah. It's her fence. But yeah, they climb. >> Is it okay if I take a look at it? I'll have to see it just cuz it says on the report that he has on there. Can I come in? I have to make sure the little baby has a crib. If not, we can get you services and get a good >> Hello. >> Hi. >> How are you? >> Put all these people here for me. >> You want me to take his jeans off so I can see his leg? >> That little one's trying to climb the fence. >> Daredevil. >> I'm going to take a picture of that. >> All right. Will you turn him around so I can see his other leg also? All right. I got to see his belly and his back also. All right. Turn around. >> One more. >> Turn around. >> All right. Okay. How long ago did that happen? >> Probably like a day or day or so ago. >> So, it's Thursday. >> Probably like a day or two days ago. >> So, like Tuesday or Wednesday? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then questions about you. I know you probably been asking a whole bunch. When you guys are all together as a family, what do you do to bond? >> Part play games. >> All right. And then when they're being bad or not listening, what do you do for discipline? >> And the con >> for how long? >> 30 minutes or so. >> And then what are some types of things that they get in trouble for? >> Not listening. Being disobedient. >> And then who all lives here with you? >> Me. The kids. >> I have Rake on the report too. Does he live here? >> That's him. >> Does he live here? >> He in. >> Was he there when he fell off the fence? >> Do you use any? >> No. >> Do you drink alcohol? >> No. Have you ever experienced dementia? >> Years ago, but it was back in 2016. >> I'll have to see all the other kids as well and take their picture. >> Oh, hi. >> Hi. >> Oh, you're ready now. You're sitting down ready to talk. >> Do you have any marks or >> Yeah. >> Oh, you do? Where at? >> Right there. >> Right there. >> Oh, what happened? >> Right there. >> Oh, you fell right there. That's not fun. You want to stand up so I can see your belly and your back, too? Yeah. >> Oh, thank you. >> Thank you so much. When you're with mom, what's your favorite thing to do with mom for fun? >> For hearing smelly >> smelling. >> Just practicing. >> Oh, okay. Okay, you're all done. >> Yeah, I got one. >> Thank you. Hi. >> Hi. [clears throat] >> Do you have any bumps? Anything? >> No, I don't think >> I remember one was there, right? >> Oh, one dog. What happened there? >> When I was at school, that bump was it keep burning me. So, keep scratching me. >> Is the bump bit your belly and your back, too. Good job. And turn around. >> When you're at home and you're spending time with mom, what's your favorite thing to do with mom? >> Play with her. >> Play with her. Okay. And when you're being bad or you're in trouble, what does mom do? >> Whoop me. >> She whoops you. We're on your body. >> I don't know. I don't know. >> I mean, everywhere. everywhere. Did she use her hand or does she use other things? >> She used a belt. >> A belt? Do you know how many times? >> No. Okay. Do you see the the scratch on your brother's leg? >> What? >> Oh, you didn't see it? >> Oh, okay. Who takes care of you the most? >> My mom. >> Your mom. And do you have chores? >> No. Okay. I'm all done with you. Thank you. Can I talk to our team, too? Hi. Thank you. >> How's it going? So, we had gotten in a report in with concerns for the kids because there were seen on them. So, I just wanted to hear from your point of view what you've seen, what you know about the on the little ones. >> Which I ain't know nothing about it until um the young lady see >> what they say in the report about me going to pick him up outside. I did look at and he did say he fell. >> Oh, you think he fell at school? >> I'm not even sure. >> Oh, wow. She I asked her baby said she's not she don't know >> school all week. So I asked her all of a sudden it just on his leg. >> All right. Did you talk to mom about that? >> Yeah. >> What she said. >> You feel same thing he said. >> What do you do for work? >> Over the road trip. >> How often are you here? >> Between 60 and 90 days. >> When you are home, do you get to spend a lot of time with the kids? >> Hell yeah. >> What do you guys do for fun today? >> Yeah, man. We ain't at the park. They going we go see my family. We got a birthday party to go to. It's not messy clean. We clean after mess and they going. >> Do you ever have to discipline them? >> I like to clean. You need some time to think about it before. >> Excuse my speech language. I ain't really with y'all. Hey, I'm sorry. >> What about their mom? What have you seen her do for discipline? >> Why don't you pause and call? We talk about it. We talk everything out. In this household, we going to talk. You sit in the corner. You got a little time on your hand to sit there and chill. When I give you these snacks and the juice, you think you done learn from your situation? You think you able to go outside and if they say no, you want to go back in the corner or you just want to sit in the room and watch or you want to sit and watch your brothers play outside or you sit beside me? >> Are you the biological father of any of them? >> Okay. >> All right. Do you use any? >> Nah, I got to see. >> Oh, okay. How often do you drink alcohol? >> When I'm off >> and then I'll talk to mom again. So, your last case I saw that they put services in place for counseling for you. Have you have they called you or have you gotten into that yet? >> Mm- >> Have they called you or you just haven't engaged in them? >> Damn. >> Are you still interested? >> Yeah. >> How do you feel like your mental health is doing? >> I was in therapy before. So, >> and will you show me on the fence where you >> How high up did it get? >> I don't know. They was all pretty high to to the top. Yeah. >> Okay. Who all was out here when they were >> her little boy? I'm not sure if she was outside. I think her mom was also not sure, but you know, he was they play up an right here. >> Okay. Like, did you actually see him climb the fence? >> Yeah, they were they was all on the fence. >> Did you see him fall? Like, did you personally or someone like just told you about it? >> No, they came back and told me that you fell after I told them to get down. >> Gotcha. Who who told you? >> My oldest son and the kids. Like so the 5-year-old that we were with he was crying so he came back he was like mommy money fell off the fence I told y'all to stay off the fence. >> I gota do you know if any adults did see like to your knowledge like when he fell? >> I can't say if they was outside or not. >> I got you. I got you. >> They play up in this area then they like to climb the fence with her son and I'm just like get down. >> Stay down. But you know boys is going to be boys. They don't listen. I have three of them. So >> yeah you get your hands full. >> Yeah. >> Okay. If we need anything else, we'll come knock real quick. But >> if not, have a good rest of your night. All right. >> Thank you. >> Hi. How are you? >> Good. Mom, is it okay if we take him to the side real quick? >> For what? >> To talk to him. >> Oh, why y'all can't talk to him? >> You want me to talk to him, buddy? >> Yeah. >> You remember a couple days ago when you guys were playing outside? >> Yeah. What happened? What was going on? Do you want to show me? >> Show. We got to put in it. >> You can show me. >> Right here. >> Come walk me over. I don't know where you guys are playing. >> Right here. >> Right here. >> Mhm. >> What were you guys playing with? >> And he fell off the fence. >> Who did? >> Who fell off the fence? >> I don't know who fell off the fence >> when you guys were all playing. Do you remember who all was playing out here with you? >> My brothers and my friends. >> Was there grown-ups out here? >> My friend grandma. >> Your friend's grandma? >> Yeah. >> And where on the fence were you guys playing? >> Right there. What were you guys doing on the fence? >> Well, I was trying to get my friends to not get on it because my brother. >> You trying to get your friends to not get on it? >> No, my brother. >> Your brothers to not get on it? >> Mhm. And which one of your buddies was on there? >> It was Mommy. Is it Romani? >> Did you see it with your eyes? How do you know? >> He clos up. You want to touch it? You can show me. >> Your little brother was right all the way up there. >> Yeah. >> By himself or with help? >> No. >> He didn't have room. >> He didn't have help. >> He did that by himself. >> Yeah. Did mom tell you to tell us that that he grew the he climbed the fence? It's okay if she did. Nobody's in trouble. >> She did. >> Okay. Well, thank you for being honest with us. I appreciate it. You know, honesty is always the best policy, right? Can I get a high five? >> Awesome. >> When you use the belt, do you use the belt for all the kids or just the oldest one? >> Yeah. Most walk. >> Everybody. >> All right. How many times? >> What you mean how many times? If they're getting a weapon, how many times you >> I don't know. Probably like two or three times. Don't really count it. >> So, with a 2-year-old, what kind of things does he do wrong that he gets punished for? >> Being disobedient. Like basically like if I tell him do something, don't jump at me. Like stuff like that. >> Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. That belt, what was that belt about? >> She asked me to show her the belt that that when if I hit them with the belt, show her the belt that I used. >> Okay. Is that the belt that you used when the little 2-year-old like those No. >> What belt was that? >> No, the that he got is from the fence. She asked me what belt do I use if I beat them. Like the >> Okay, I see. Do you mind if I see it? I'm sorry. I I know. I walked away and that was my bad. Do you mind? I'm sorry. >> Okay. Is it like It's always this one. Like this is like the designated one that we go to. >> It's only one bill. Only got one bill. >> I got you. I got you. Who gets >> Everybody does if they get a whooping >> like all the way down to the to the baby. What you mean to the to the 2-year-old? >> The the baby you're holding in your arms? >> No. No. >> So, she doesn't get it? >> No. >> Okay. So, we got a 5-year-old, a 2-year-old, >> and a three-year-old. >> And a three-y old. Does the three-year-old get it, too? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, the 2-year-old when he gets it when he's disobedient. That's correct. >> Yeah. When he to throwing a tantrum and stuff like that. >> Throwing a tantrum. >> Screaming, crying. >> Yeah. Ever so often. >> Like when he doesn't get what he wants kind of thing. >> Sort of. Yeah. >> Okay. Gotcha. But like I told her, I haven't used the belt in about two to three weeks. And the last people that got a belt was my oldest and the three-year-old for acting up in school. >> Okay. Gotcha. When was the last time the 2-year-old 2 to 3 weeks ago? >> No, the last time was my oldest and the three-year-old. >> So, when was the last time the the 2-year-old? >> It's been a minute. He been good. >> So, >> and where on their body? Like, is it same across the board? Everybody gets on the same part of their body or kind of like on their >> Okay, gotcha. Does it generally leave marks? No. >> Okay. And what part of the belt are we using? >> I hold this in like this >> and they get hit with this. Like this. >> Ah, okay. Gotcha. Who is this that's in here? The other um adult that's sitting here on the couch. >> My auntie. >> Your auntie. Okay. Gotcha. She live here. No. All right. Ma'am, go ahead and take a step out. >> Why? >> Don't tense up. No. >> Don't walk away from No. Don't tense up. No. Don't tense up. No. Get off me. Get off me. What? What are you repping me for? You got to tell me what I'm looking for. You got to explain. You're Okay. No. Do not test out. That's not No. >> Get No. You're going to go to the ground. You don't go to the ground. No. Don't do this. Cuz you got to tell me what you arresting me for. >> Yes, it does. >> Yes, it does. You got to tell me what you arrested me for. >> We're going to talk about it, but you need to not resist. >> I'm not resisting. >> All right. Why you got to You do not have to hold me like that. >> Yes, I do. >> No, you don't. >> You have made it very clear that I do. >> No, you don't. You do not have to hold me like that. I'm still walking. What you arresting me for? >> Child. >> How is that child? I haven't did anything to myself. >> I'm going to come and stand at the back of this car. >> I haven't anything on you that's going to poke me, stick me, hurt me anyway. >> I haven't did anything to my son. So, how I'm getting arrested for child? >> I'm going to be upset when he fell off the fence. I have a witness. >> How old is your son? >> Her son is five just like the other one. >> Okay. >> Like seriously, why would I hurt my >> Go ahead and have a seat. Do not resist. >> When I get bailed, >> can I bail out now? No. Have a seat, >> bro. Why would I hurt my kids? How I'm going to jail? Y'all not even listening. That's not fair. >> Get in the car. >> That's not even fair. >> Inside the vehicle. You are going to get another charge. Is that what we're going to do? >> Getting another charge when y'all not even put your feet in the car. >> Put your feet in the car. >> I'm giving you a lawful order. >> I DON'T NEED YOU. >> Don't Don't do this. >> Y'ALL not even listening. Let me go. Y'all not even listen. I don't want this. Hey there. Hi. >> You're good. You're good. You're good. Okay. >> What's your relation to the family? >> That's my niece. >> That's your niece. Okay. So, obviously she's being arrested. What we are trying to do is figure out what's happening with the children. Do you happen to have an ID on you? Oh, >> no. I actually don't. >> Okay. Not a huge deal. Are you willing to to watch after the kids if that's something that we can orchestrate? >> Yeah, I'll watch them. >> Okay, cool. We just >> Oh, I can I can call her mama and stuff to come get the kids. >> All right. here. Talk to her and she's going to be the one that decides what what goes on with the children. >> Their auntie is on the way. >> Their auntie is just >> I just call >> if you could call her. >> Police want to talk to you real quick. >> Okay. >> Stay right here. >> Hey, hun. You're You're on your way over, right? >> Yes. I'm on my way. I'm on my way to you guys right now. >> Perfect. We'll see you when you get here. >> She's okay. She's more than okay. >> Is the kids okay? >> They're inside. I haven't even seen them in the past appointment. They're in their rooms. They are more than good. Okay. Go inside. I'll meet you guys inside and everything. Okay.