My mom is squealing. >> Every time she get mad, she always put her hands on me. >> She beat hell with this. >> Your niece is in fear of her. She is terrified of your >> She's so I don't really call her mom. I call my auntie mom. She just started to hit her, punch her in the wall, hit her head on the floor. >> On February 20th, 2023, officers responded to a residence following reports of a domestic disturbance between a mother and her dependent. The situation reportedly began as an argument over household chores and later escalated beyond a verbal dispute. >> What's going on? >> Uh, we don't have anybody working today. Does anybody else in the house speak? >> Yes. >> Did you call? >> Yes. >> Who lives here? You live here? >> Yeah. >> All right. Who wants to tell me why I'm here? Who's your auntie? >> Take my mom a job cuz my mom was screaming. >> Okay. I need your mom's ID, your aunt's ID. Get those figure out what happened. >> You have your ID license? >> My mom was screaming and my mom. >> Does everybody live here? >> Yeah. >> Yes. Come back here. Let me talk to you about what happened. You live here? >> Yeah. She's my sister. >> Okay. What happened? She was trying to discipline her kids and >> but I intervened. >> I just sleeping and then my niece to call me. She beat her and then when I'm coming I see everything. So the kid can explain it. I don't know what's going on because I was sleeping. >> So you stopped her. >> Yeah. I just called her. I say stop. Why you hing her? I tell her if you call police, you don't you going to have a problem for her because you try to fighting the key don't have a age. You can't talking for the for the police. But she don't know that. I try to help her. >> Okay. But your sister doesn't speak very good English. Is that >> No, she not speak English. >> No, she not speak English. >> Okay. One daughter. >> She has a four two daughters or two two. >> Who was she trying to discipline? Which one? >> Uh Zafa. >> So tell me what was going on today. So today and I was doing something and I told her I'm coming and then she came inside the room. She punched my head. She bite me. She kicked me. She stepped on me. And then I was crying and then my and my my sister called my my auntie said she could come help me. And then she started cursing at me. She said she started doing all those stuff and then she she said she was going to call the cops. But she's really doing that. And that's everything. >> That was your mom, right? >> Yes. How does she normally discipline you? Was that is that normal? Is there something going something different going on? >> She always every time she get mad, she always put her hands on me and my sister. >> Who else was inside when this was happening? >> The little sister. >> Okay. So, we was in my room and she came inside. She told my little sister, which is the girl with the green shirt, to take my little brother's shower. Yeah. She was on her phone and my sister was like, "Okay, she's coming." Um, she went back outside. and she came inside and started beating over my sister. I was like, "What happened?" Cuz it happened ultimately. I was like, "Oh my god, what happened?" Cuz my cousin was just standing right beside me. I was like, "What happened?" She started banging her head on the wall, biting her. As you can see, a mark in her arm. She started biting her and stuff. I was like, "What happened?" I went cuz my auntie was in my grandma room. She went and called my um auntie and my was like, "What happened?" Cuz she was sleeping. And when she woke up, like I started yelling cuz I didn't know what's going on and stuff. When my auntie came and started talking to her and stuff, she was just yelling and doing the most and she was like, "She going to call the cops." >> Who called the cops? She >> I think she did. >> She did? >> Yeah. >> Has she ever done this before? >> First time she had done this like about the third time or fourth. >> Have we ever been out here before? >> Not y'all, but >> no officers. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Hello. I just need your help translating if you don't mind. I'm going to talk to her. So, I just need her to tell me what happened today. >> She said that kids say neighbor but she don't know but >> the kids say they know what the kids did what sorry about the kids >> they went to out with the neighbor >> okay when I was >> but she knows the knows >> okay >> let me explain you something a sister take the kids on her responsibility because she cannot do she cannot take the the kids responsibility and the sister the kids do everything for the kids but any ask her to work out with the kids the They add the she has tweaked kids too. She maybe I don't know. >> Okay. >> But the neighbor asked her sister said she tell her she said she don't know when she come come back. It was 1:00 in the morning. She was mad. >> Oh, this is last night. >> So the argument is about them going out last week because the sister the sister gave permission >> but didn't tell her. >> She tell her but she don't know. So I need to know what happened today. >> Today subject was Yeah. She said they was mad. >> Okay. >> There was mad mad mom and her sister. >> Ask her if she was disciplining her kids. I wonder if she was disciplining Zapira for something today. Was she physically disciplining her? >> She asked the the other door there to give shower to the kids. She don't want >> Okay. >> That's why they >> How did she discipline her? >> Okay. She said she don't she she never know about the kids really because the family they take care the kids even SHE'S not satisfying the family her with the kids. >> Okay. One of the daughters is saying that she disciplined Zafira. >> Mhm. She said she punched her and she was hitting her against the wall. >> Don't want to give them the shower and she mad. She mad. >> She mad. Okay. So, she got mad. >> No, they got mad because she said, "I don't want to give the shower and she push she push her mom on his chest on her chest and that's why she take the sandals." She beat her. That's why. >> Yeah. But the >> she's saying she got a bite mark. Did you bite her? >> No. No. >> She didn't. Did she punch her or she just used her flip-flop? >> You punch her. No, she said she take the sandals. She beat her with the sand. >> Where did she hit her with the sandal? >> Okay. Two of them were saying that they that the zapir was like her head was hit hidden in the wall. >> Do you have a she ID, passport, anything with her name on it? There you go. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Step right here. >> Where do you feel like you got hit? You got hit in the head. You said, >> "Yeah, she pushed my head in the floor." >> She said she was using a flip-flop. Did it feel like a flipflop? >> She wasn't. She didn't even use no flip. >> Is there any bump there or anything? >> You feel the bump? >> I feel my head. >> Where did she live? >> She came here and she's trying to go back to her boyfriend. So, she want us to go with her and I don't want to >> Where's your boyfriend? >> Indiana. >> Indiana. >> Did you guys used to live up there? No, I never I don't want to go live with her cuz her boyfriend is >> Where's your What about your dad? >> Had >> this is a case number. Let them know that I'm going to be calling the Department of Children and Families. That's what's going to happen. Okay. >> Okay. >> I'm going to give you a case number as well. It's going to be well documented. I don't quite have enough to arrest her. I don't know that you want me to arrest her anyways, but I'm going to have the perfect children families come out the talk >> because I think the disciplining is is it's a bit excessive. She's trying to go back. >> I'm trying to help her, but she not understand. >> She trying to go back to Indiana. The kids were >> Indiana. >> She has an ex-boyfriend. Her boyfriend. >> Boyfriend. You You take Ducky in front of boyfriend. >> I don't know. That's what the daughters are saying. The daughter says something about Indiana. >> Yeah, but they don't want to, >> right? Is she trying? Is she talking about trying to go to Indiana? Okay. >> We're going to end up taking you one day. You want to go to jail? >> We're going to end up taking you one day. Tell her she needs to stop disappoint's going to come out. >> Yeah. >> And I'll I'll make sure that they have a cruel speaking. >> Yeah. >> Thank you so much. >> All right. You're welcome. >> All right. We'll speak to her really quick and then we'll speak to you. No. >> Yes. >> You speak? >> No, I don't speak Creole. >> We have to wait for someone to come here that speaks Creole first. Okay. Okay. >> So, we're here about the incident that occurred yesterday between Nadj and her daughter. Safira. I was just sleeping but my niece call me and then when I'm coming the issue is gone. But >> what did you hear? >> A lot of niece just call me. Auntie auntie my mom gave uh Zafia I just came and then I face her and then move her on this room after that. >> What details did you get? >> She tell me my sister tell no answer on the complaint. So >> and then tell me after that uh he tell mom wait I'm doing something and then after that fighting. >> So your niece told us that you saying something. So this is the thing you you take care of your niece right? >> Yeah. >> All right. But mom is the one who actually had custody of her, right? >> Yes. >> So this is the thing. If you guys did see something like we need to know cuz if not your sleeping I was sleeping. Just tell me. >> But she said there's been other times or other incidents where mom has hit her. >> Yeah. Maybe or something. I don't know because I think all people inside September they send me the paper. They say the deny again. I pay $5,000 to >> deny for what? >> The paper. The res paper >> for your Yeah. She still don't have her residency. >> How long your sister been here in the States? >> 5 years. Almost six years. >> So why are you doing that for her? >> Because I have a sister. I just have >> But if she's not taking the initiative to do that for herself, why is that your responsibility? >> Don't she have Don't she have a the father of her kids? >> Yeah, but I don't know what the father he is. But I think >> again, that's not your responsibility. That's hers. She's an adult, right? >> Yeah. >> All right. Then you shouldn't be going out your way to get her something if she's not doing the same. there could be a possibility that the kids that you've raised all their life could be removed from this household because of what she did. So, we don't want to protect what she's doing if it's not if you guys are not being protective of your nieces, that can happen. That's not what we want to do. But, we want to make sure they're in an environment to where everyone else that are adults around them is going to protect them. And right now, from what your niece is saying, she's gotten into an altercation with her. And this one is the worst. She has a bite mark on her arm. >> Yeah. Because uh my sister tell she hit my niece, but I tell her, "Why you do that?" because I don't want her be when that's why I say I take her I start uh to work at 2 a.m. at 11:30 to stay here because my mom take a a job at 10 10:30 sometime 11 she start talking couple months I tell the two girl when she's talking never mind >> because I think so she has something >> you think that she has some so she had another case with us did she ever have was she ever bipolar was she diagnosed with that >> no >> so what are we going to do to make sure that this doesn't happen again cuz this already happened one time too many your niece is in fear of her. She is terrified of this. >> Yeah, she's very mad. I say, "Come down, girl." You know, I'm here for for every inside. So, I stay here. I say I'm going to talk to my boss to do a a couple days. Want to see she's been okay about the >> When did she move here? >> Uh I think so 6 months because I pay rent for her. >> How are you going to keep them from being >> uh yesterday? I talked to someone tell me um some friends leaving on the back and then he say he have some hyperp. >> She want Listen, she going to have to go. >> Yeah, I know. >> She's going to have to go because I don't feel comfortable allowing your nieces to stay here if mom is here. You guys work. >> But she she already applied for >> child support. >> Yeah. Yesterday I talked to somebody to show me some apartment. They say that he want I told >> I'm going to pay because all the time I pay for her. Where she Where is she going to go? When she leaving today? >> I don't know. >> She know she need to go today. >> Yeah. So, you just leave the another kid, man. I take care everything. >> She going to leave the other two kids with you, too. >> I don't know if I want to because I don't want no the kids. If the the you tell her to leave, >> she But this is your house. I can tell I can say to her cuz she can say no. Y say no. She can say no. But then now I'm going to come back and I'm going to say, "Okay, well, these kids have to go." >> Then if you don't want that to happen, you guys have to tell her she has to leave. Yes, I can support that. I can support that and say yes, you got to go. We're going to make it. We're going to set up an arrangement to where she go and make >> I'm going to set up the room for her. And then >> how soon can she move into this place? >> It's up to you. >> And to me, it's up to y'all. She live in your house. >> So, you didn't see the physical altercation happening. You just heard about it and then you came in. They already separated. Did anyone in the home see the altercation happen besides Flora? Flora saw it. >> Flora and Gabriella. >> You have another niece in there, right? >> Yeah. And who was you said that someone was telling the Nadj that if she hurts Zafira that he would hurt her too. Who was that that was saying that mean here? Huh? My sisterh tell me he tell her I'm doing something after I'm going to do it. Zaf tell me she tell I'm going to do it after. And then after that >> I'm talk to Z and tell me to listen. >> Okay. And who is Gabriella? >> My niece. >> Your niece. Is that Zapira's sister? >> No, it's okay. My brother. >> Flora is here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Who was in my room? I mean our room. And was cleaning. And she told my brother to take I mean my sister to um take my little brother's shower which is the one you just saw outside. And my sister was on her phone probably doing something and she was like, "Yes, I'm coming." and my sister called her phone away and actually um um got up to go take my brother shower and she went back out. I'm talking about my mom. She went back outside and come back inside and I was like um trying to fix the window and stuff, putting new stuff in the room. I was in the bed and ultimately I heard my um little sister yelling. She was like, "Oh my god, you're hurting me and stuff." And I saw my little sister in the floor. She pushed her, started um stepping on her head and at a point that my sister couldn't really breathe. My sister had to push her a little bit, but she bit my sister in her arm. And after that, I was just crying cuz I I couldn't help my sister. I was crying and stuff. >> Why can't you help her? Why you felt like you could help her? >> Cuz I feel like I couldn't help her cuz she's my mother. I don't want to put my hands on her. >> You didn't want to You didn't want to like push. >> But if it was somebody else, I would really step over my sister cuz she's my sister and I'm the oldest one. >> You seen with your two eyes? >> Yes. >> Your mom on top of your sister stepping on her and biting her. I could show you how I was in the bed trying to help my sister, but I remember I was like, "No, I can't really put my hands on her cuz she's my mother." She was like, "Oh my god, I couldn't breathe." And she was like, "Flora, she's push she's punching me and stuff." She was just yelling. She was like, "Auntie, help." Which is my auntie couldn't um hear us cuz she in the room. >> You ever live with your mom? >> No, never. I believe my auntie and my grandma. It's like my auntie been a mother to me since like my mom pushed me. So, I don't really call her mom. I call my auntie mom. Like sometime people be so confused with me auntie mom but now your mom just moved here this past summer right? >> So you didn't really know your mom that much before that. >> She's come to visit though, right? >> Yeah cuz and she kind of has problem with her baby daddy so she have to come down here and stuff with the kids and my auntie didn't really help her out with the babies and stuff. >> Your mom does have she technically does have y'all because your aunt does not have a document saying that. But at the same time you guys are old enough to make a choice. Yeah, >> like the police wouldn't be able to come here and take you guys out >> and make you go with this being your mom have to do like an emergency reports and stuff like that. Even though your grandmother don't check her, but because you guys can talk to yourself and say that, you know, this is where you guys this is where you want to stay. >> Um, she can't falsely I can't falsely pull you guys out because your mom wants you. >> Yeah. >> So, both your uncles came in? >> Yeah. to help my little sister out. And >> did your other uncle here? >> No, they both went to work. >> They're both at work. >> Yeah. >> What did he do? >> He was trying to stop my mom from yelling at my sister and talking and trying to hit her back again. >> Okay. So, he was trying to hold her back. >> Like my other girl. >> Okay. Um, was anyone else here right now that saw it happen? >> My little cousin. >> Is she here? >> Yeah. >> 10. >> Can you tell us what happened? >> It was when it started when my mom was telling my sister to go take a shower and she said, "Wait, cuz your mom. >> I call her mom, but she's not my girlfriend. >> Okay. >> So, you were in the room. >> Okay. >> She called my She's telling my sister to go take her shower. My sister said, "Wait, cuz she's doing something." And then when she was getting up, she told her dad again and she was she said, "Wait, she was doing something." And then she started to yell at her and say all that and then start yelling, cursing at her. And then she started to hit my sister. At that time, I was helping my sis, my other sister, fix the lid. She just started to hit her, punch her in the wall, hit her head on the floor, and then start kicking her. I had to go. My auntie was sleeping at that time in the room, so I ran and went to go get her. I guess she was her and my dad and uncle was able to start. >> Where was she kicking her at? >> On the face. >> Was she barefoot? Did she have shoes on? >> She was barefooted. >> And then you said that she bit Zapira, too. You saw that happen? >> Yeah. >> How did she bite her? What was how like what did you see? >> Picked up her head and just >> Was a Farah standing up or was she on the ground still? >> She was on She was still on the ground. >> She picked Safira up by the arm and then bit her on the arm. Okay. So, she was like bent over Zapira or >> She was just on the ground. She just grabbed her head. >> Was your mom was your mom like hovering over her >> or she was on the ground with Safira with her? >> She was hovering >> hovering over her. Okay. >> All right. Do you have a party with you right now? >> I do. >> I have her right here. Ask her to just tell me what happened. How did she end up like disciplining her daughter to where she has a bite mark on her arm? >> I was living yesterday. I had to deal with my younger daughter and I had to go somewhere and um it was like 12:00 around there and I talking, can you please get up and um you know, go take a shower and shower with the kids for me. You know, she didn't pay attention to me. I ask her again and she was like, "Well, excuse my language, man." Because she >> It's fine. >> And the daughter said, "You know what kind of you talking about? You know, you want to you want to come to your children to you working with yourself, you know?" And then so I was upset. I said, "Okay, if you don't keep talking like that, I'll take the phone." You know what I'm saying? And um and she said, "Well, you didn't buy the phone for me. You didn't buy the phone for me for me. Why? How you going to take it from me?" And she swore she threw her hand her hand in my face and dropped out. My glasses fell down. When I sit there, I try to grab her and um I grabbed her. I put her on on the bed. I hit her on her butt with my the slides. She threw her hand again and hit me in the face again. Um and her hand hit the she was throwing her hand. Her hand actually hit the side of the bed and they said that I hit her the arm. >> Now, can you tell her I understand that she said that her her daughter hurt herself by hitting her arm on the bed. However, there are multiple people in the house who witness her bite her because she was not taking she had the commotion and came over and you know what happened and her herself she was >> I never said it was her sister. So I want you to ask her uh how true this is. Her daughter says that she was her mom threatened to poison her if she didn't go back with her to um Indiana with borac or she's going to have DCF taken. >> No, it's the younger one. >> Street. >> Okay. >> Very good. Hey, can you let the lady know that she's going to be placed under arrest? Can you translate that for me? All right. And then I need her to put her hands behind her back. Okay. >> And just let her know we need her to remove all her jewelry. Her ring, her earrings, any jewelry on her back. >> What medication does she need? >> What's the medication? Can you ask? >> And she's diabetic. Yeah. >> All right. So, okay. So, bring that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's your medication. Should I pat her down? Thank you. Okay. Have a seat here. The woman was arrested and charged with cruelty.