on January 27th 2023 an officer
attempted to conduct a traffic stop for
driving a golf cart on a public
roadway not on community I've followed
you since Community do you have your
license registration don't have to give
you anything on
my get off my property yes you do you
committed a traffic infraction okay good
send me a ticket I need your license
registration proof insurance I I have
not committed a crime and I'm not going
you committed a traffic offense yes you
did I did not sir yes you did I did not
sir
okay are you going to turn this into
something criminal that's up to you I'm
in my house if you if you saw me out
there then you got to pull me over out
there that's not how that works a
traffic that's not how that works your
vehicle from my no a traffic infraction
happen on the roadway I need your
license you're not getting anything I
need your license do not enter my
property sir I am not on I need your
license thank you so much I need his
license oh I don't know sir okay I need
his license or he's at risk of
interfering with a law enforcement
investigation does he want to get
arrested for what investigation super
call supervisor okay I
will call Sergeant
Garcia call hey do you want to come 51
out to
me uh now I'm inside the Gated Community
but he was driving on the public road
right he refusing to give me his license
okay you're refusing all right you're
heading out here
here we go officer I'm going to ask you
again you're in my driveway please move
you committed a traffic infraction on
the public roadway respectfully asking
you again sir if you please remove I am
not my driver 1164 and if there's
another please move from my you are
blocking my driveway are am I being
detained yes I need your Li I need your
identity to identify you I need a
supervisor you cannot you are not
allowed to do okay you can think that I
I know I know how the police are working
okay very well okay can you come
ins yeah he's bring a supervisor I'm not
running from anybody he'll bring a
supervisor okay I'm legally permitted to
drive in this in this neighborhood I'm
in not on public roadways this is not
public sir you were on the public
roadway say okay do you have proof of
that yes I do may I see it it's on the
body camera perect I can give it to you
after give me your driver's license I'm
not giving you my driver's Li okay why
you why you don't have that's what I
want to know if he says that was on the
road there are other cars on the road oh
you don't stop at the right moment not
it's not counting that's not how that
work a traffic stop can be initiated
anywhere a violation you don't do that
in that moment that is mean you do that
when he come back in here in the house
that is mean you don't do that in the
right moment in the right moment that
you have to do it yeah that's not how
that works well you don't do it sir that
is not how that works is is this allow
are you allowed to block my yard okay
you are I'm trying to initiate a traffic
stop on you didn't you on private
property you tried to do because of a
violation that occurred on a public
roadway you are not allowed to enter
private property to come after me you
can't do so that's
why there's a supervisor
coming personal hey there's a supervisor
coming and you could explain this all to
him then have the moment and opportunity
for do that you don't do it that does
mean you don't do it right your job that
is not how
okay
okay I
am I'm not on I'm not on your I'm not in
your
house this is HOA property drive this
community is HOA property no it's not
yes it is driveway is HOA property no
it's not yes it is okay this is HOA
property okay so so you're saying that
this is not my property like this right
here is HOA property where you committed
a traffic offense is public
roadway this part is in this property
this is our property okay if you guys
want to turn this into something more
turn it into okay nobody okay you have
to do the right thing that moment you
don't do it okay sorry okay you lose
that I know you saw everything from
inside the house right sir I am not I am
not afraid for you I'm here and I'm
telling you that you don't do the things
when you have to do that in the moment
that you have to do why you don't to
stop him in the in that part oh you stud
criminal justice huh you're a police
officer well that is not your business
if I know if I not that is not your
business okay okay but that is that I'm
telling you okay I mean you're trying to
tell me how my job works now but you
don't do that okay you do that I don't
know what you're saying I you know what
I'm saying no I don't you know what I'm
saying no because you area infraction
uhhuh you can make a traffic stop all
the but you don't do that in the right
moment in the right second you don't do
that in that minute okay why you have to
wait you I'm not here to change your
mind no you don't wait you wait for to
come here I am not here to change your
mind you have I'm not here to change
your mind no I know and you weren't
driving the golf cart so I don't know
why I'm talking to you because I you are
the law of enforcement and you have to D
respect for me because you are the law
right or wrong and I'm trying to enforce
the law and you're impeding my
investigation what investigation sir
have any part you don't have any paper
your your supervisor is not here do I
need to pull okay if I pull up a printed
sheet of what law he broke do no if you
show me proof of breaking a law I
absolutely will Pro perfect okay and
then
I'll you stop the vehicle you don't stop
and you don't ask for the his driver
license you don't do the things that the
police officer have to do I asked for
his driver's license you were in when
I'm on private property you can't ask
that's not how give just because you
come to your house doesn't mean it's
safe Zone I didn't say anything about
safe zone I'm in private property sir
okay I am on private prop okay you can
have this argument with the sergeant
okay what the do and everybody yes
absolutely okay so that's fine so we'll
we'll take it
to how you doing boss good
I pull up here with my son and all I'm
trying to do is go inside inside the
house and he pulls up in my driveway I
asked him to leave M he said I want to
see your driver's life I said for what
he said for driving the golf car MH he
said it was on a public road I said well
number one we're on private property
this is private property I'm more than
okay to drive my golf cart on here it's
insured and he wants my driver's license
I said okay well then show me what I did
wrong he said I was following you from
somewhere but there was Cars I said well
I'm not giving you my license for that I
mean I'm not hiding this is my house you
find out who I am but I'm not giving him
my license for something if he if he's
saying I was doing something then he's
got to pull me over and he's got to do
whatever he's going to do at the time
that he thinks that I'm apparently
breaking the law so yeah inside the HOA
communities you're allowed to um but
anywhere it's like City on roads like
Village Parkway Community Boulevard
Gatlin cross anything else is not inside
in like a community area I understand
and then um I mean I
understand I mean to pull me over right
here in my house and he wants to put the
lights on and make a big commotion
blocking my driveway yeah he he has um
the supervisor on the way
also no no no no no no no I have a
traine we close
by here put it normally uh we're
stopping out stopping the golf clart cuz
uh a lot of people call him the city
hall one it's it can't be on the
roadways I am agree with you but to do
it in the moment that you have to do it
you don't have to wait you don't have to
do this we respect the law enforcement
absolutely but the thing when you have
to do that if you told me if I am broken
the law outa you have to pull me over
and ride away in that moment that's like
telling me okay I mean somebody pull up
to your house say oh you broke you broke
the the speed limit on the highway well
where at my house what are you talking
about you know I mean come
on I so I'm his supervisor so I'm going
to make I'm going to make one request
okay okay um being in your pulling into
your driveway doesn't negate the stop
I'm going to give you the option right
now because what's going to happen if
you don't Pro provide the identification
and I have to arrest you we don't want
to arrest you under arrest yes so would
you prefer to present the identification
or not sorry I am I am I have a question
no no no no no no no I have a question I
have
I'm not fighting you I'm not fighting
stop move away don't say anything
without your lawyer and they don't have
any solu if I give you my driver's
license so if I give you my license you
will permit me you you will have a
conversation with me asking you about
the law you're under arrest theid is not
resist okay I am not resist theid theid
there theid there I didn't tell you no I
said I was going to ask you a question
tell know right I said I said I want to
understand what the law is that's all I
okay please tell him tell him 14 years
old he years old okay don't leave it
alone one second that time you don't
have are inside please she'll be quiet
she'll be quiet please let my kids are
inside I have a six-year-old daughter in
there sir you can't please let have to
find somebody else let her go I she
didn't do anything absolutely not put on
the car please the can I tell my son
wait a minute I have miners in here can
I tell my son I'm not fighting I'm not
fighting let's go to the car sir go to
the car pleas believe you cannot leave
my kids alone we're right
here sir you do I'm doing this please
watch the asked you I just said to you
if I I said I wanted to make sure that I
was that I'm legally required to give
you my ID yes you are legally required
you told me that I tried to explain that
to
you sir I told no no I was asking for
super please man my you would have
literally got a warning and I was trying
to do that and give you you see my
license it's right here okay I was come
on man why didn't you just old sir I I'm
not wanting to do any of this my kid
even my kid a ride to school please come
on man don't
Do's please turn do you have anything on
come on do you have anything on you
that's going to poke me stick me I asked
for a supervisor that's all I ask sir
sir please man to man if you have kids
please don't do this my kids are inside
listen all you had to do was present
it's right there simple as I told you
that
sir I don't understand what the point of
refusing it was it wasn't no no but what
I'm trying to tell you is I wasn't
trying to refuse it from you sir I was
asking you if I'm legally required
that's all I was asking he asked you
right no no well he asked me but he also
was bling Myer and I didn't understand
what that was that's why I requested
respectfully I told him respectfully may
I please speak to a supervisor that's
all I
said there's no going back okay okay all
right where are my kids is there so
here's my next question is there a
relative a neor can you call her
absolutely okay can we just let her go
she just being P she just being in a
pain that's all okay can you do me that
favor I'll go she can't put her hands on
officers when they're trying to she
wasn't trying to put her hands to hurt
anybody come on no no I I never said she
was
but she can't and I respect that sir I
apologize to you man can you please let
her stay with my kid no sir please sir
who am I calling for your 703 and who is
that that's that's their mother she's
right down the street can you call her
and why is this guy walking I couldn't
tell
huh uh well yeah I got pulled over for
driving a golf cart what's the name of
the mother I'm getting arrested and
I he's throwing me in the yeah my kids
are in for driving the golf cart
okay get your extra and push me in like
you want to go ahead why would I do that
come on man I got kids why you got for
you know why just like you I nothing but
respectful to you you were I was
respectful to you too didn't I tell you
nicely can you make sure please don't
leave until my kids are here we are not
going to go anywhere you cannot leave
until my we are not going anywhere
yet where is my phone you took my phone
out of my pocket yes I have that where
where is it it'll be going with you to
St Lucy County Jail I need to see it it
will be going with you to St Lucy County
Jail okay hope you feel good man doing
that to somebody with kids I wasn't rude
to you I don't like doing it all I all I
needed was your ID man but I but I I
wanted to know if I'm legally required
to give it to you and that's why I you
are legally required