I HAVEN'T TOUCHED ANYBODY, BUT IT'S BEEN PULLING. >> The scratches were from a knife. >> You got punched in the head by who? >> My child. >> And she's been passed out on the bathroom floor half the day. >> So, your mom was behind your grandmother and she had her kind of in a chokeold. >> I hope they arrest my daughter and her mother. >> On June 14th, 2024, officers responded to a domestic disturbance at a local residence. Inside, a woman allegedly threatened her mother with a kitchen knife, leaving multiple scratches while her daughter intervened to separate them. >> What's going on? What's going on? >> Fighting in the bathroom. >> They're who's fighting in the bathroom? >> Grandmother and mother. >> Okay, you got to get that dog away. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay, >> ma'am. No, you're going to go to jail for hitting me. >> Ma'am, I'm Officer D. Roza. What's going on? >> Nothing. I I was supposed to go to detox today. >> Okay. You're supposed to go to detox today. You don't have any weapons on you, do you? >> No. >> No. DID YOU TAKE ANYTHING? >> NO, BUT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUTTING THEIR HANDS ON ME. >> OKAY. OKAY. I'm just going to check if you got any weapons on you. Okay. >> There's no weapons. >> WHO'S IN HERE? >> I HAVEN'T WATCHED ANYBODY. EVERYBODY'S BEEN PULLING RIGHT OVER HERE. Everybody outside. >> How you doing? >> I'm good. >> You called? >> I called 911. I called the police. Wait, am I getting arrested? >> No. No. We're just going to go outside and talk to you. It's loud. >> I came home and I saw there were scratches on my grandma's arm and I asked where they were from because I knew they were screaming when I was at school. She said the pricker bush. And then my mom was in the bathroom and my grandma went in there and I don't know what happened, but things started to get physical. So, I went in there and then it later came out that the scratches were from a knife. >> Who said that? Your [clears throat] mom said that? Your grandma says that? Okay. All right. Where's that knife? >> I don't know. I wasn't here. >> Put the dog in the room somewhere, please. >> You're okay, buddy. I'm outside. >> There for a second. >> Okay. >> Good boy. Good boy. >> All right, ma'am. So, >> wait. Wait. >> Jesus. >> All right. Just come over here. Come over here. >> You're just going to go in cuffs right now. Okay. You're being detained. You're not under arrest. >> Are you kidding? >> No, I am not kidding you. Okay. >> I did something. >> All right. Well, >> I hit nobody were hitting me. >> Okay. Well, we'll figure that out. Okay. But right now, you are just being detained. >> I got punched in the head. >> You got punched in the head by who? >> My child. >> Okay, I'll take it. >> I did not. >> Okay, let's take a deep breath for me. Okay. Is there someone else here? A daughter. >> Husband. >> A daughter. Is there a daughter here? >> Yeah, I already spoke those. >> Yeah. >> What happened? Do you need medical attention? Do you have any scratches from a knife? >> You see your arms? >> Yes, please. Okay. >> How'd those happen? >> They were from earlier today. >> What happened today? >> She was supposed to go to detox. >> Mhm. >> But what happened, ma'am? >> Yeah. I'd rather not say. >> Well, we already I have an idea what about what happened cuz your granddaughter just told me. Just explain to me what happened. You're not in trouble. >> She wasn't here when that she was at school. >> Okay. But she did hear you say that you were scratched with the knife or something like that or you >> Yeah. >> Okay. She cut you. Okay. Around what time did this happen? >> It just this morning. >> Okay. How >> she was supposed to go to detox. >> Okay. >> And we were packing. What she was doing was packing and repacking and repacking and repacking. >> What happened today? >> I supposed to do a detox today. >> Okay. And I'm packing and my mom is just up my ass and it just she's just driving me crazy. >> Okay. Well, like what did she do that was driving you crazy? >> She's just up my ass. >> Okay. Up about what? >> Just everything. Everything. >> Were you supposed to go and you didn't go? >> Yeah. Basic. Yeah. >> You decided not to go. >> It's not that I decided not to go. It's that when the lady came to pick me up, I was waiting for my boyfriend. >> Okay. He would be here in 6 minutes and she couldn't wait for him to come. >> Who couldn't wait? The person that was bringing you to detox. Was it like a setup ride or something? >> Yeah. >> Okay. What happened right now that brought us here? >> An argument and everybody's just I was looking for my medication and >> Okay. So, you were in the bathroom looking for your medication and there was a verbal argument between your mom and you. >> Yeah. And then it got I didn't put my hands on nobody. And then the ride was coming to pick her up. Mhm. cuz CBH had a 1-800 number and they had a bed for her. And then the ride came and she went out and she told the driver that she wasn't she wasn't going to go and and then she came back in and she's been passed out on the bathroom floor half the day. I've been trying to get her off. >> I got >> I had her packed the first time. I like all packed. >> No, not to cut you off. Time out. She came back in. What happened when she came back in? After she said, "I'm not going." I was leaving and I got in my car and I sat there and then I said, "I'm not going to leave. I'm waiting for that guy to get here." But while I sat in my car, I also called Rushford. >> Okay. >> And I spoke with >> Okay. It doesn't matter who you spoke with. I just want to know what the cut how did that whole thing happen? Cuz obviously something >> that was that was earlier. She just got mad. Your mom, >> she took out a knife and she was like pretending she was going to hurt me, but she she did. >> Ma'am, she she's You have lacerations on your on your on your arm. That's not >> Okay. And that happened earlier. So the reason why I'm I want to time out. I want to know what happened with that knife, right? With the knife. >> I don't remember. >> You don't remember what happened? Ma'am, let's not play this game. How do you remember this whole thing of her leaving, repacking, repacking, repacking? You can't remember that. >> Cuz she did it all day long. [clears throat] >> Okay. But how do you not How do you not remember this? How do you not remember that, man? >> She took out the knife. >> When did this happen with the knife? What time? >> I don't know. We were screaming and yelling at each other. >> Around what time? In the morning time. It was be was it before the ride came or after? >> It was before. >> Okay. So, one more time. What time did you say? >> Well, the ride came at 12:30. So, before 12:30. >> Before. Okay. Before noon. Okay. How did that happen? >> She pulled out a knife. She was going to pretend to that she was going to stab me. >> She was going to pretend. She clearly cut you. >> I know. I know she did. >> That's not pretending. >> I know. I know. >> Okay. And that happened one more time before. >> Before noon. >> Okay. And who was here at the house when this? >> Just me and her. You didn't tell your housemate. Does he know about her? >> He doesn't know about the knife cuts. >> Okay. >> He knows she was supposed to go to to rehab. >> I understand. Did it happen? >> It happened. I was sitting at my desk, my table working. >> You were working and then how did she she just brought up the knife? Was it a kitchen? >> We were we were arguing. >> Okay. >> So, yeah, it was a kitchen knife. >> Okay. And [music] you were you were you were arguing about what? About her going. >> Yes. About going and I'm harassing her. >> Right. And then what did she say? >> I said, "I'm going to harass you. I'm going to harass you every day of your life. >> And what did she say? >> Why are you doing this to me? I'm going to go. I'm going to go. >> Did she say Did she say she was going to hurt you >> when she got the knife out? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And uh what did she say exactly? >> I'm going to you. >> Okay. >> I said, "Go ahead. Do me a favor." >> And then she grabbed the knife from the kitchen. Is that what happened? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then after she grabbed the knife from the kitchen, what happened? >> I told her, "Go ahead and kill me because if I'm gone, you have nobody. You have nobody left in this world." So, she grabbed the kitchen knife and then she proceeded to come on this area right here. Is that what happened? Okay. You were working. I understand. And then she came, she brought the knife out >> from that direction. >> Okay. And then what did she do? What did she do? >> She came over to me with the knife and I kind of went like this and she kind of just got me in the eye. >> She She did it just like that. >> Yeah. I just >> Okay. Where else do you have cuts? >> That's it. Just right there. >> What happened after that? >> She stopped. She went in the bathroom. >> Do you need medical attention, ma'am? I know it's a superficial cut, but do you want me to call the >> I don't need medical attention. >> Are you sure? >> Yeah. I have Yeah. I mean, it's nothing. I have other medical conditions, but >> Okay. So, she >> I seem weak. I I'm just a weak person. >> Okay. I mean, you obviously had a a crazy day today. Clearly. Very emotional. I understand. You know, >> and I got a bunch of people coming Sunday. >> So, how many how many times did she cut you? Cuz I see you have about three scratches in there. >> Well, yeah. I think she just >> How many times did she make that move, man? >> I think three. >> Three. Three times. >> Just trying to >> Okay. Block her. >> Block my face anyway. >> Okay. And after she did that, she went to the bathroom. What happened with the knife? Where's the knife? >> She put it back in the drawer. >> So, you don't know which? >> I don't even know which. >> I'm just going to check right here. Okay. Can you recognize the knife that was used? I mean, this >> I don't. We different knives. >> And as a matter of fact, this drawer was just jammed. >> Try not to touch anything, please. >> Well, it was just jammed and we just kind of stick our hands in there. >> Okay. So, you don't know which knife? >> No. >> Okay. She locked herself in the bathroom, I'm guessing. >> Yeah. >> After she did that, what happened? >> I let her stay there for a while. >> Okay. And then you're >> And then >> granddaughter came from school. >> No, no, she went to her friends after school. Okay. >> So, she didn't get home. She didn't get here till about 5:30. >> How many hours was she in the bathroom for? >> She was in the bathroom a while. And I popped the lock and went in to wake her up and get her up. >> Okay. So, she was just like knocked out in the bathroom. Okay. What happened when she woke up? >> That's when she Where's my stuff? You took my stuff. >> Okay. Did she hit you? Did she hit you at any point after that or not? Did she hit you? You sure about that? >> Um, I am. >> Okay. So, she wakes up. >> She She was yelling and screaming. >> What was your Where was your husband during this whole altercation? Where was he when this whole >> Probably outside mowing the lawn? >> Okay. So, he had no idea what happened. >> Did you see any of it? No. Her freaking out. I think he's just used to >> Hi, sir. How you doing? >> Her. >> Hi. How are you? >> Good. Good sir. Um, sorry. Yeah. I just came. Uh I guess uh your granddaughter called 911. >> I would have just called regular. >> Your daughter and your wife had some sort of incident. What time were you here? Were you here the whole day, sir? At the house or half day. >> A half day. So you got home around what time would you say from work? >> Well, I show house. >> So here's one picture of her today. >> Okay, I got you. Okay. Mhm. >> In the bathroom. >> Mhm. >> I don't know why. >> And where was your daughter when when you guys were arguing? Where was she? >> The granddaughter. Yeah, she ran. I'm sorry. >> Probably in a room. >> So, she was in her room. She heard you guys screaming. Did she Did she She said that something happened in the bathroom between you guys. >> No, >> because that's how that's how word came out. >> Well, maybe she nervous cuz we were yelling. I was trying to get her up and get her out of there. >> Your granddaughter, did she witness this incident of you guys? >> I don't know. What did you witness? >> I got punched. And >> you got punched where? >> In the head. >> You got punched in the head by who? >> My daughter. >> Your daughter? >> Yeah. The one [clears throat] that called the police? Yeah. >> So, your daughter just punched you in the head? >> Yeah. >> Do you have any knives on you? Any weapons? >> A patter weapons? Yeah. >> All right. You sure? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you want anything right now? Any right now? >> You sure? >> Yeah. >> You have shoes? Anything in the house? Somewhere? Slippers? Something like that? >> Yeah. Somewhere. I'm not getting arrested. Are you >> We're doing an investigation right now. I told you you're just being detained right now. You're not under arrest, but you are being detained in handcuffs right now. All right. You just need to explain to me what happened. Okay, [laughter] >> that's what happened. And I was being loud. >> What led to the physical altercation? I know there was a verbal altercation, but who went after who? >> She went after me. She just came and hit me. >> So, you're just saying that your daughter just came into the bathroom and hit you in the head? >> Yeah, she came ran at me and punched me. I don't want her to get arrested. But like, >> nobody's talking about that, but I need to understand what's going on right now. Okay. Hi. Do you need any medical attention? Are you okay? >> Did she hurt you at all? Did she hit you at all? >> Okay. All right. >> Those are for your mom. >> Perfect. >> Yeah. Thank you. So, you were in the bathroom looking for your meds. You guys were yelling, arguing? >> Yeah. >> And you're saying that she just came into the bathroom and punched you? >> Yeah. She got mad because I was yelling. I was like, "Mom, you know where they are." All of a sudden, she came out of her room cuz her friend's here. >> Mhm. Thank you for calling. >> Yeah. >> Did she make any threats to your grandmother? >> Well, she was strange in the bathroom. >> When was that? >> Like 5 minutes before I called. >> Okay. And it strangled her. How? What was she doing? >> Well, she was in the bathroom and she like had her like this around her. >> From behind, >> I think. So, yeah. >> So, your mom was behind your grandmother and she had her kind of in a choke hold. >> Okay. >> And then I went in and like pulled it apart. Okay. >> And how did you pull it apart? Like I kind of just went from behind my mom and just like let her. >> Okay. All right. And you're sure you're okay? >> Yeah. >> And charged at me. >> I don't want her to get in trouble. >> Well, that's besides the point right now where we need to figure out what exactly happened. >> So, let me just clarify. You were in the >> Okay, just take a deep breath for me, okay? Cuz I need to understand what exactly happened. All right? So, you were in the bathroom. You were looking for your medicine. That's correct. While you were looking for your medicine, there was a verbal argument between you and your daughter. >> Me and my mom. >> A verbal argument between you and your mom? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And then my daughter opened her door and charged at me and came into the bathroom and hit me. >> Was daughter involved in this verbal argument or she just got upset by the verbal argument and then she came into the bathroom and you're saying she punched you in the head? Yeah. >> That's with a closed fist. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, she closed fist punched you in the head. >> Yeah. >> What are we doing back here? >> Do either one of you guys have a tissue? >> Not on me. No. We're going to go just take a seat in my cruiser just for now. Okay. >> Just like I told you. You're just being detained right now. >> I don't want to get arrested. Do anything wrong. Nothing wrong. >> Okay. >> I did absolutely nothing wrong. in there. All right, hang tight for a sec. Okay, >> she was behind her mother putting her in a chokeold and that's from the daughter had to rip her off. Probably why she's saying I got punched in the head. It was her daughter defending her grandmother. >> How old is mom saying? >> Old. You probably have on an elderly. I would say over 65. >> Daughter got upset with a verbal argument so she went into the bathroom and punched her in the head. >> Yeah. No, it's not the daughter. >> Not at all. Yeah. Can >> you tell us what happened tonight? What you saw? >> I just want to listen to your granddaughter. >> Where is it? Where is it? >> Yeah. Okay. I'll just listen to your granddaughter for a second if you don't mind. >> I mean, if you want to hear it. >> Well, I was just staying in my room. >> So, you didn't see this happening or did you see that? >> Well, I was staying in my room and then I heard like things get physical in the bathroom and then I came out of my room to pull them apart. >> Did you pull them apart? >> Yeah. Break them off. Okay. So, yeah, we have obviously assault with a knife. She said I asked which knife it was. There's a bunch of She's like, "I don't know." But they're in there. >> And you've got assault for today and for this right now and assault for this morning. >> I want to make sure you're okay cuz you this you told me that you had a condition, correct? >> I do. >> I'm still going to call the paramedics. I just want them to check you out. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Please. >> I just want to make sure. >> This is all embarrassing enough. >> No, it's not. Listen, my job is to make sure you're safe and sound. Okay. >> But it all right. >> I am. >> You sure? >> Yeah. Your head doesn't hurt because if she was pulling your hair >> No. No. It was from behind. And >> can I see your neck real quick? Would you mind picking up your hair for me? >> Okay. Did she punch in the head, ma'am? >> No. >> No. She just wrapped her arms around your neck. Is that what happened? >> Yeah. That I don't even remember. >> You didn't hit your head at any point. You sure? >> No. So, she's going to the police station. >> Oh, she's getting arrested, ma'am. Absolutely. >> So, what happens? She's getting arrested. >> Then what? She going to get >> So, I'll tell you. I'll go over that right now. She's going to get arrested for what happened this morning and today. Okay. Even if she were to bond out, she's not going to be allowed back at the home. She'll have to go somewhere else. We're going to put something called a conditions of release. It's a temporary protective order, and it keeps her from coming here. If she were to come here, she'd be arrested on a felony. She cannot come back until her court date, which is going to be Monday. So, from today until Monday, she's not allowed back here at the house. >> So, there goes her bed at CVH. >> Just because she can't be here doesn't mean she can't go to CVH. She just can't be in this house. If she's got to meet somewhere, she can call them and say, "Can I meet you at Starbucks or can I meet you at the commuter lot?" She just can't be at the home. >> Well, she's not going to be able to bond out. So, >> well, that if she makes a phone call to someone or it depends on what happens. The bail commissioner may let her out. We don't know what's going to happen until it happens. But if she does get let out, we'll give you a call and let you know because she's not going to be allowed at the home. Okay. >> All right, Denise. So, you are under arrest right now. Okay. >> No, I am not kidding. So, you are under arrest. I'm going to be transporting you back to the police department right now. >> That's so funny. So now I hope they arrest my daughter and my mother. >> You got to try to take a deep breath for me. Okay. >> I'm sorry. They've been trying this to me all day long myself. Oh god, I hate my life so bad. What's going to happen to them? the one who are putting their hands on me. >> There's an entire investigation that's going to be done. Okay. Those are other officers over there doing the rest of the investigation. >> Good. Because they deserve to go to jail, too. >> Denise was living somewhere else until maybe 2 years ago, maybe. >> Okay. But she lives here too >> now. Yeah. >> Okay. >> But I told her we're moving soon as she graduates. >> Mhm. >> High school. Go to college. >> Okay. So, what I'm going to do here, so this statement is is just you telling me what happened. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So, I'm going to write this statement like I'm you. Okay. So, I'm going to do you do you give me permission to write this statement on your behalf? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, I'm going to let AI write it. >> She threatened you. She cut you with the knife. And then when did she strangle you? Cuz you told one of the officers that, too. And it's all on camera. So, if you might as well put that on, you know what I mean? Like if this if this all if this is what happened. I think she said when she pulled my hair she had her I don't remember. >> So she pulled your hair back and her arm was around your throat. >> She said my her arm I don't recall that being the case but >> go ahead and write it. >> I'm not Listen I >> I mean that's what I'm just saying. I don't recall. Maybe because I was too worried about her pulling out my already thinning hair. >> Oh, it's not thinning. >> Yes. Seeing my hair when I was >> So she pulled your hair back. She had her arm around your throat like her >> probably would have been her arm. >> So it was like her between your throat was in between her bicep and her forearm >> probably. Yeah. >> Okay. And she was choking you or strangling you. >> Yeah. >> Were you able to breathe during that time when >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah. >> She came to break it up right away. She was there. So I mean it didn't go on for any length of time >> during all this. How you felt like were you scared for your life? >> No. When she was threatening you with the knife and all that stuff, you weren't scared for your life saying when she said she was going to you. >> I told her to go ahead and put me out of my misery. >> Okay. >> So, >> but you weren't like, were you scared? >> Maybe a little. I I kind of knew she wasn't going to actually hurt me. >> People know people their whole lives and people snap sometimes. I'm not telling you what to write. I'm just I'm just saying like >> a little uneasy. I more worried, believe it or not, my dog being nervous about the whole thing. >> This is this is about you right now. And then what happened after the fight was separated. >> I came out here again. This is like my safe space. And then, you know, these videos that I had, I was taping her back on like a nutcase. >> Okay. So, when you recorded Denise, what was she doing? Was she just like just losing her mind? Like, >> yeah, because she thought I took her out and take nothing. I don't know. She did them all or what she do with them. So just can you describe like the pain level from like the cuts like when the knife and knife all that happened you like like on a scale of 1 to 10 fear pain all that like was it was it a 10 out of 10 10 being the worst or one being not so bad honestly >> one >> one a cut from okay >> my skin is very thick >> okay so you're going to go with a one out of 10 >> let's make it an eight I know you're pushing >> I'm not I'm not pushing you I'm asking you something to happen to her >> okay well I I'm not telling you what to They're scratches. So I guess >> Right. They're scratches like from a knife. But I'm just cur like I just want to know like >> All right. Maybe a three. >> Okay. >> A three. Okay. >> The pulling of the hair is much worse. >> Yeah. The hair pulling probably a nine. >> Fear level. What would you give that? >> Seven. >> All right, Denise. We're going to hop out. Step right over here. Okay. The woman was charged with assault, risk of injury to a child, disorderly conduct, and threatening.