No, I'm said I'm a foreign state national. >> Right. So that's what I am. >> So you're a foreign state national. >> Yes. And if you >> claiming diplomatic immunity, CORRECT? >> You are driving a motor vehicle that is unregistered in the state of Florida, which is a misdemeanor crime punishable by jail and fine. >> Sovereign citizens love to split hairs, arguing that there is a legal grand canyon between traveling and driving. It's a comfortable delusion until they meet a no BS cop who forces them to face a harsh reality. The moment your hands grip the wheel, your pseudo legal theories evaporate and licenses become mandatory. >> I'm not traveling. >> I am not agreeing to you. Excuse me. What are you doing? >> These sovereign state nationals were taught that they needed licenses for driving and traveling if they decided to get behind the wheel themselves. Starting with this woman who earned a first class ticket to jail as a state national who was too dumb to know that traveling behind the wheel requires a license. >> So you've never had an ID identification card, driver's license in any other states. >> Um when I was younger before State I'm just traveling. I'm I I I don't I don't do a commercial. I I'm I'm not commerce. It's an automobile and I'm traveling. >> Okay. We are traveling on our roadways which requires a driver's license. >> On July the 14th, 2024 on a Florida highway, an officer on patrol cited a white SUV without a license plate and decided to pull it over. As the officer approached the driver's side window, he found a woman behind the wheel with her young child seated behind her. Expecting a simple explanation for the missing tag, he began asking a few routine questions. But within minutes, the officer realized that he was dealing with yet another self-proclaimed state national. >> Hello there, Tiffany Morgan with the Blush County Sheriff's Office. The reason I'm talking is you don't really have a tag on your vehicle in our state. You got to have some kind of characters or registration. Do you have any information for the vehicle? >> Okay. >> Okay. Do you have any other form of ID other than passport? I it's it's my traveling information. I was just traveling along. >> Okay. So, you don't have a driver's license in any state? >> I'm not. Sorry. >> I'm sorry. >> I'm not I'm not to carry one. >> You actually are. 21. >> Go ahead and start me. Second unit. This is going to be a sovereign citizen. >> So, you've never had an ID identification card, driver's license in any 50 of the states? Um when I was younger on a state national address. >> Okay. Before that, did you ever have an ID card anywhere? >> I probably did. Yes. Yeah. >> You probably did where? >> In South Carolina. >> In South Carolina. Okay. Do you have any paperwork for this vehicle saying that it's been uh registered with the state of Minnesota or Florida anywhere? >> I I'm not required to have the registration, sir, so I don't need >> Do you have any insurance for the vehicle? >> No. >> Okay. Well, give me one second. and I'll be right back with you. >> As the officer returned to his patrol car to verify the documents, he discovered the address the woman had provided didn't match the information on file and the SUV's registration was not valid. >> Go ahead and step out of the vehicle for me. >> No. Step out of the vehicle. >> No, I'm I'm I'm not referring to >> You're going to step out of the vehicle. >> Then I have to call >> No, you don't have to call anybody. >> I'm not. >> Get out of the vehicle. Get out of the vehicle. Get out of the vehicle. Step out of the vehicle. >> You are. You are under arrest. I Why am I >> Get out of the vehicle. >> Why am I >> Step out of the vehicle? >> Why do you have your hands on me? >> Because you're going to jail. >> You didn't do anything wrong. >> Get out of the vehicle. Let's go. >> I didn't do anything wrong. >> Let's go. >> I didn't do >> Let's go. >> Ouch. >> Oh my. >> Come on. >> Ouch. >> You want to around? You find out. >> I didn't do anything wrong. >> Behind your back. Stop. >> Stop. >> I don't understand what's happening. >> You're going to jail. What's happening? Why? >> Why? >> Because you have an unregistered motor vehicle and you do not have a valid address. >> Sir, it's it's not >> address. It is not. It is a PO box. >> I know. >> Unless you reside in a post office box, you do not have a valid address. >> Listen, that that >> one 21 central female 105 >> unregistered motor vehicle. >> Let's go. Do you have anything in your pocket that's going to poke me? Oh, you don't really have pockets. Do you have anything concealed on your person? Because if you do, when we get to the jail, it is a felony. >> Rocky is anything you may have forgotten. Anything that goes for this is your last chance to come clean about it. Go and have a seat. about how I thought that was going to go. >> After the officers figured out the best arrangement for her underage daughter and the tow truck finished hauling away the SUV, she sat at the back of the police cruiser helpless as she embraced her new reality. >> For the record, my body cam did it nail. >> I'm just I'm just traveling. I'm I I I don't I don't do a commercial. I I'm I'm not commerce. >> Okay. And I'm not interested in you doing commerce, but you're operating a vehicle on our roadways. >> It's an automobile and I'm traveling. >> Okay. Well, you're traveling on our roadways, which requires a driver's license, which is weird because you have a valid South Carolina driver's license. >> I know you don't understand. It's state national stuff. And I know it probably rubs you the wrong way. >> Well, it doesn't rub me the wrong way. I just I don't subscribe to it, so I don't really care to hear it. >> I understand. But that's why I I feel like you're you're mad at me because you're mad at the state nationals. >> And I >> I'm not mad at state nationals. >> But I don't understand why why you're arresting me. I don't understand why you why you won't just please give me a chance. You have to understand it's stressful to get pulled over. I'm completely confused at why I got pulled over. >> Could you please check this address? >> No. >> We have moved beyond that. So, how am I supposed to get anywhere? I don't have anything. I don't have my car. I don't have my wallet. I don't have my phone. >> Well, your daughter has your wallet. >> There are phones in the jail. You will be allowed. >> Oh, I saw that. >> I don't recognize that >> cuz I can tell you that's not in my passport. No. >> Unlike the previous woman, this sovereign this sovereign national got herself messed up right before her daughter. >> What are you about to do? >> Is the car off hand? >> We're going to remove you and the passenger out of the vehicle due to you not >> You said you're you weren't driving. >> Correct. I'm traveling. >> You're also driving in a vehicle or you're traveling in a vehicle that doesn't have a license plate on. So that's why they stopped you. >> I understand that. >> Okay. >> On a sunny day in Florida, officers pulled over a black Tesla for driving without a license plate. Behind the wheel was Candace, a woman who appeared calm and reserved. But from the very first minute they began to interrogate her, they soon realized that looks can be deceiving. >> Why do you not have a license plate on the back of the Tesla? >> This is brand new car. I just purchased it. I have a temporary. >> Where's the temporary tag? >> Should be on the back. >> I have on the >> on the back. There's nothing there. So, I don't know. Maybe you lost it while you were driving. Invest insurance. We're going to need that, too. And your license. >> I don't need to give you guys anything. >> What's your issue? Why are you being like that? I just stopped you because you don't have the license plate. You said that it should be there, right? And I told you that it's not. So then where is it? >> Ma'am, I don't know. >> Okay. So then that's why I'm asking you. Okay. And then in order for me to move forward, I will need the information cuz obviously I can't get anything off of a tag that's not there. What is your name? >> I'm not contracting for my name. I want to make sure. >> Of course. >> Okay, good. I'm not contracting the state and my contact with you. Of course, Robert. I'll give you my name solely for the purposes. >> Okay. >> Okay. What? >> Tell me your name. >> I'm sorry. Say that again. Heidi's fault. >> Last name. >> Sorry. >> I'm not in jurisdiction. I'm not traveling. I'm sorry. I'm not driving. I'm traveling. >> Oh, she's just giving the first name. >> Ma'am, we have to be able to identify you because you're lawfully being stopped. >> Llawfully being stopped. Under what grounds? >> You have no tag on your vehicle, right? And they just mentioned Sorry. >> Huh? Why are you guys surrounding my vehicle right now? Now I feel threatened. >> So you have no tag on your vehicle. That's why you're being stopped. Threat. >> Okay. So being that you're on a lawful stop, you're being lawfully stopped with probable cause of having no tag. >> What crime is that? >> You have no You're not understanding. You have no >> That's not a crime. That's not a crime. >> That is a crime. Yes, it is. >> It's not a crime. >> Yes, it is. >> Quick, get your attorney. >> How are you going to identify yourself? You have to have some type of way to identify. >> Okay. What are you looking at? >> 104. >> She's talking to you. Stupid talk to her. If I was going to talk to you, you should have done that earlier. >> Looking all over my stuff. >> I'm actually listening to the radio. So >> ID for us to identify it. >> It's in my trunk. >> Where? In your trunk. What's where in your trunk? Like in the bag? >> Yes. In a packet cuz I just I unrolled her to the school. So, I have a packet that's full of all of my personal documents, my social, my passport, etc. >> So, it's in a bag in the trunk. Correct. >> What color is the bag? >> Not in the bag. It's in the pouch. >> Okay. So, what color is the pouch? >> Purple. Purple. >> So, it's a purple pouch in the trunk that has your ID in it. >> Okay. So, can you open the trunk so we can get your ID? >> I I can open the trunk and get my ID. >> No, we cannot allow you to get out and go in the trunk. Well, I'm not allowing you to go in and and >> Okay. So, can you give us your name? >> I just I just gave it to >> first name, last name, gave it to her. >> We're going to need more information than what you were telling us. Either you allow for us to get documents out of your trunk or you give us the information verbally. Those are your only two options at this time. >> Candace believed that being a self-proclaimed sovereign state national and having deep pockets placed her above the law. But she had no idea that she was about to learn something about breaking traffic laws. >> All right, we're going to go ahead and Off. >> You're going to what? >> Okay. >> Hold on. >> All right. Is the car off? >> Excuse me. What are you about to do? >> Is the car off, man? >> We're going to remove you and the passenger out of the vehicle due to you not wanting to cooperate with us and provide us information that we are asking for you to give us. >> I am not agreeing to you. Excuse me. What are you doing? What are you doing? >> Like I've heard it. >> Go ahead. Step out. cuz you're not like >> I just gave you my freaking name. What the hell are you talking about? >> Yes, I did. Do not touch me. >> Let's get out of the car. >> Come here. >> What are you doing? >> I'm going to have you come to the back of the car over here. >> Do not touch my daughter. >> Your daughter's cooperating. We don't have to do anything. You're not cooperating. >> I need all your badge, your names, your badge numbers, etc. Just go ahead and you can lean up against the car. >> Can you let go of me? >> No. So then lean against the car. >> I'll lean against the car. Let go of me. >> Stay right there. >> You put him down for me. >> I have not committed a crime. You to get me out of these damn >> good. We already done. >> Where'd you supervis? Sir, since she is not cooperating as as an individual doing her duty to get her job, >> she's doing exactly what she should be doing now. >> We'll be happy to get a supervisor here for you. Okay. >> I need it now. right now. >> He's calling. >> You've been uncooperative so far, ma'am. So, you're going to remain in custod until we're comfortable that you're cooperative. Okay. >> Am I being arrested? >> You said you're being detained until we got >> Am I being arrested? I need He's off of me right now. >> We're going to wait for our supervisor like you requested, right? >> I didn't request to be yanked out of my vehicle. >> Okay. Due to you not cooperating with us. That's what happened. So, now we're going to do what you want and you call for our supervisor. He's going to be on the way. you can talk to him further. >> After placing Candace in handcuffs, the officer's attention shifted to her daughter, who had watched the entire scene play out before her eyes. Although she wouldn't be sharing a jail cell with her mother, she would be sharing the fallout. >> So, your mom's being detained right now because she's driving a vehicle without a license plate on it, right? So, we don't know what's going on. So, she's being detained. You're not detained. We just need to get you out of the car because the car is like you're going to be so mind closing that door for me on the car. Thank you. Not Not you, ma'am. Not you, ma'am. >> I need her to get the hair out of my eyes, please. The officer there can help you with that. >> No, don't touch me yet. >> It's fine. Please >> get off my mom. >> Okay. So, you're not you're not being the thing, man. Right. Your uh your mom is. Okay. So, if somebody comes to pick you up, whatever it is, they're welcome to do that. You do not have to stay here should you not want to. Okay. If you want to remain with your mom, you're welcome to do that. I'm just here to make sure that no cars hit you, that you're safe, and all that stuff. You're free to go um anywhere you wish. Ma'am, your daughter said that you guys were on your way to school. Is that correct? All right. So, I know she needs to get over there. So, you have like school books or something like that. >> Okay. So, I'm going to I'm going to go in there and get that for you. >> What makes you guys think that you can touch my personal property? Like, who are you? >> Where is it >> right now? Not done anything. Oh, the drug. You guys have literally yanking out of my vehicle at 7:00 in the morning. No, you understand how aggressive this woman is in front of me and you're still trying to make me speak with her. >> Vinnie, I'm trying. >> So, we're going to just open the door and her daughter's going to grab this. We don't we don't know what's in there, right? I I don't have no reason to believe that your daughter wants to hurt me or anything like that, right? I just don't know what's in there. So, I need >> us. I need to make sure that whatever she gets is not going to hurt us. That's all I'm trying to do. Okay. So, >> are ridiculous. I can't >> Okay, to come over here. Okay. >> Your stuff. Can we open this door over here? Is that okay? I just don't want you sit over there with claws. Good enough. Uh that staying here, right? Um, I'm just going to close this for you so it doesn't get all over the car. Mom is required to provide us an ID. Driver's license, name, date of birth, something like that. >> While an officer tried to sort out the best way to help her around the mess that her mother had created, the supervisor arrived at the scene. His arrival could either give the woman a second chance or finally seal her fate. >> How can I help? >> There's no time, which is not. I need to get removed from these handcuffs right now. >> Okay. >> These aggressive cops surrounded my car, surrounded my vehicle without my consent. open my door unlawfully and yank me out of my car. >> Okay. >> When I'm not driving, >> I'm not doing any commercial activity right now. That's my daughter. She's going to school. >> You said you're you weren't driving, >> correct? I'm traveling. >> And I And I know y'all don't like to play by the real rules, but I already know them. >> Okay. >> I'm not going to uh accept anything less than. And everyone here is going to be sued, >> okay, >> for their unlawful behavior right now. This is unreal. >> Not only that, but I'm pregnant and she touched me in ways that is is not acceptable. Okay. All right. >> Let me uh just stay here. I'll talk to the other officer. See what you guys got going on here. Okay. >> Even though the supervisor appeared willing to hear her out and look for a fair resolution. Candace couldn't get out of her own way. And by doing so, she turned what could have been a second chance into yet another setback. >> Why can I not have my phone? >> Cuz you're detained right now, ma'am. >> For what crime? >> The officer explained that to you already, right? >> No, there's no crime. I'm taking >> Are you taking this with you or are you leaving the car? >> Leave it in the car. >> Leave it in the car. Okay. >> Can I talk to my daughter? Can you get away from me, please? >> No, I cannot get away from you. You're detained at this time. >> You can talk to your daughter, but just we're not we can't let you walk away. >> I'm not asking to walk away. I'm asking her to come here and y'all step away from me, please. I'm not >> She's right here. She's right here. Ma'am, you can talk to >> Call please. If we're going to do telephone communication between the two, we're not going to allow that to happen. >> You do not need to talk to her. Period. Step down. Know your place. >> You work for us. Ma'am, >> do not touch me. Let me Sir, can you please get this woman off of me? >> Ma'am, >> I'm going have to put her in the car because she's not >> I'm have to put her in the car. >> Sir, please get her off of me >> because she's trying to do She's trying to ask her daughter a call. She's asking [ __ ] her asking her daughter for the phone. >> You have anything breaking the law right now. >> So, what have you been arrested for? >> You've been arrested for resisting. >> I'm not resisting anything. >> You resisted cuz you did not. >> I am not resisting anything. That is not Sir, please. >> I understand that you don't recognize the local laws and the state laws. You have a different belief. >> Not refuse anything. Whatever it was, I told them I would get it. >> You're not allowed to get and I told you I would get it for you. >> You didn't if you if you aren't providing your name and identification. If you aren't if you if you're if you're resisting officers, >> I'm not resisting anything. >> If they're trying to get if they're trying they're trying to identify who you are and you aren't providing your name and your information, >> but that name wasn't coming up. >> What do you mean? And then you weren't giving them anything that they could use to identify you. >> You're also driving in a vehicle or you're traveling in a vehicle that doesn't have a license plate on. So that's why they stopped you. >> I understand that. >> Okay. So based on >> There was one on there. I literally bought that from the dealership not even a month ago. So based on on you not cooperating and providing the officers the information they needed. That's a form of passive resistance. >> It is not. >> And they're arrest and they're placing you under arrest as a result of that. >> That's what you That's why you're in handcuffs because they're trying to >> Who is the injured party right now then? >> Um there's I don't know if there's an injured party by your ter by your terms but crime. >> Just explain to you what happened and I have not received anything. He he ma'am, do you uh do you want me to Your daughter needs to get to school. >> Okay. So, do you want me to release her to school? Do you want me to escort her to school? How do you want me to get her over there? >> You can come over here. >> Sir, can you please get this woman out of my face? I'm not moving. >> Ma'am, let's just focus on your daughter. >> On your back. >> Can you please call Chris? Is he not answering? >> Okay. How do you get your daughter to school? Cuz this is why I separated you. Because you're trying to do stuff through your daughter, which you're not allowing. How you going to get your daughter to >> Who are you, my maker? Like, who who are you to not allow? We're going to close the door. >> Am I going to walk over there or is she going to walk by herself? >> I don't really think she's she's >> After having Candace at the back of the cruiser while an officer walked her daughter to school. The supervisor ordered the officers to wrap up the scene. But for a sovereign state national that she was, she wasn't ready to back down anytime soon. Did I hear you say that their cameras were on? >> No, their cameras should have been on. I'm going to go watch their body camera footage and make sure that they handled you in a manner that was appropriate. And if >> and I have not resisted once states that I even need to provide unless a client has been committed. >> That's not true. If unless do you have a Florida's driver's license or no? >> I do. >> Okay. So, when you sign for a Florida driver's license in part, you agree >> and I already repot it. Right. So, as I told her, my other ID is in my car. >> I'm sorry, in my trunk. >> She wanted to go into my trunk. I don't trust either one of them because of the way that they treated me from the second they walked up to my car. >> The second they walked up to my car. >> Just because you have nothing else better to do. >> Okay. >> You don't understand what's You don't understand what liability that you are. >> So, we're going to go ahead and get going because the the longer we keep you here, the longer this is something you'll probably be able to get through processed and be out uh within a reasonable amount of time or within 6 to 8 hours. So, the sooner we get you down and get you processed, the sooner you can get out. So, I'm not going to hold you here any longer. I'm let the officers go ahead and and finish up here so we can get you down and get you processed. Okay. >> All right. In the end, she was charged with driving without a license plate, refusing to provide identification information during a lawful traffic stop, and resisting an officer without Next is this lady who thought being a first class member of a sovereign movement meant that she had immunity to drive without a license, only to end up being humiliated by impatient cops right before her children. Do you have an actual driver's license? >> No, that is my ID. I'm an American state. >> Okay, that's not a thing. Okay. Where did you obtain that tag? from uh Orange State National Guy in Alabama who makes >> Okay. >> On February the 29th, 2024, at around 2 p.m. in Florida, officers from the Edgewater Police Department on patrol cited a woman driving a car with an expired license. Without delay, the officer pulled over the woman. But the moment he approached her, he soon realized the woman wasn't just a dumb sovereign national. In fact, she was nothing of good conduct to ride about. Can you roll this back window down for me? Hello. Hi. Can you roll this window down for me? Hi, my name is Officer the Edgewater, please. The reason I stopped you, he's not in his uh seat belt and your tag is obscured. The top of it, you can't see what it is. And it doesn't come back to anything. >> My camera is blocking the top. >> Yeah. Do you have your driver's license with you? Do you have an actual driver's license? >> No, that's my ID. I'm an American national. >> Okay, that's not a thing. >> Yeah. >> Um, do you have a registration and valid proof of insurance? >> I'm not engaging in the commercial use of the highways or byways, nor am I operating in a for higher capacity. I am a foreign national exempt from foreign law under amendment 11 of both the constitution and the constitution of the United States and I claim all my exemptions. >> Over the years the officers had seen sovereign state nationals pull every trick in the book when caught violating traffic laws. This woman chose to play around the constitution with unwavering confidence. Despite that the officers knew from experience that sovereign state nationals often challenge authority without fully understanding the consequences. >> Okay. So, do you have any other documentation from the United States government saying that you're exempt from these or that you're a uh >> I don't have my paperwork in the car with you, but I do have it and that's my form of ID and those are my private plates on the >> Okay. This is a passport. Okay. So, I'm aware of your group that you're with. This doesn't grant you any rights to drive. >> I will. Do you have a driver's license in any state in the United States? >> No. >> No. Okay. Do you have any other documentation? nothing from the United States government saying you're you're you're you have diplomatic immunity. >> My paperwork is on my house. >> Okay. Are you aware that in the United States when you're a diplomat inside the are you claiming to be a diplomat? Is that what you're saying? >> No, I'm said I'm a foreign state national, >> right? So >> that's what I am. >> So you're a foreign state national? >> Yes. And if you run my >> You're claiming diplomatic immunity, correct? >> If you run my passport, you'll be able to see my documents there. >> That's it reflects. >> So do you have a a driver's license in any state in the United States? That is my form of ID. >> Do you have a driver's license? That's not my question. Do you have a driver's license? You do not. >> No, that is my form of ID. >> Do you have a registration or a valid proof of insurance for the vehicle? >> It's a yes or no question? >> No. >> Okay. Any particular reason he wasn't seat belted? >> No, he had >> he was hanging out the wind. Yeah. But when we were behind him, he didn't have his seat belt away from school. >> Okay. Where did you obtain that tag? from uh foreign state national guy in Alabama who makes >> Okay. >> So, you're aware that in the United States and in the the the state of Florida, you're required to have specific tags that actually go to the vehicle and is registered. Are you aware that >> my private automobile? >> Okay. You've been filled with some false information. So, in the state of Florida, you're required to have a driver's license. >> I'm not sure many people are aware. >> We are. I I have I have I have read a lot about the foreign state. >> I don't know. I feel like they give a um people a bad rap because I've got I've been in situations before where I try to explain to them and they keep calling me sovereign citizen and like >> Well, that's what it is. Even if you look No, it's not. It's not. And when you look it up on the internet, it'll tell you, right? But it'll it'll explain it as essentially it's a sovereign it is a sovereign citizen entity. While she remained lost in her own illusions, answering every question the officers asked as though she had rehearsed them a thousand times, she failed to realize that she was dealing with officers who were so delighted in teaching her the difference between driving and traveling. >> Can you hand me the keys? >> No, I cannot. >> Can you step by the car for me? Get out of the car. Unlock it. >> Can you unlock it? >> Your car has been forwarded to voicemails. Step out. >> Step out the car. >> Get away FROM HER. >> GET AWAY from her. >> Step out of the car. STOP. >> Get away FROM YOU. >> GET OUT THE CAR. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get away from your hand. >> Your mom's fine. Okay. >> Go back. Go back in the car. No, I'm not. >> Go back to the car. >> I'm not. >> It's okay. >> No, it's not. >> We're going to come take her to the grass. Okay. STEP AWAY FROM HER. >> IT'S ALREADY BAD ENOUGH, TOO. >> She's the only person I have. Please >> get back over here. >> Go back to the car. Mom's going to be okay. >> Mom's going to be okay. >> Just don't. >> We're not going to hurt you. Your mom's going to be okay. They're hurting me. >> She's the only person I have. >> I did nothing wrong. >> These are my children. >> Come here. They forced me on MY CAR AND DRAGGED ME ON THE FLOOR LIKE AN ANIMAL. >> I did nothing at all. I SHOULD stand up. >> Walk over to that car. >> Hey, hey, hey. Come here. Come here. Come here. >> Come here, bud. Come here. >> Come on, >> mama. >> Get in the car. >> Unlock your car. >> Take a seat in the vehicle. You have any weapons on you? I tried to talk to you. >> Why would you drag ME OUT OF MY CAR LIKE THAT? YOU have no right. Motor. >> I'm not a US citizen. >> Okay, I understand you're doing your job and all that, but I did nothing wrong. And now you're forced to keep pushing me into >> Get in the car. You're under arrest. >> Why? >> Cuz you kicked me back on a law enforcement officer. You did. It's on camera. You did kick me. You did kick me. >> No, I didn't. >> Yes. >> You were pushing me, pulling me out of my car. Just >> come right here. Yep. You >> want to play games with kids? >> I'm not playing any games. >> Do you have someone we can call that can pick the kids up? >> I'm trying to call. >> Okay. Well, I have your phone. Do you want me to try to call him for you? >> I'm not going to give you your phone now. What's your PIN? Or You don't have to give me it, but I'm trying to make it. >> Can I put my pin in? >> Sure. Adult detained at 144. >> Adult ground at 1446. >> No, they arrested ME AND THEY HAVE THE KIDS. I did nothing. >> Move your foot. >> And he dragged ME OUT OF MY CAR. THEY DRAGGED ME OUT OF THE CAR. >> Do you want to have a conversation? My son, >> we're we're calling to get somebody to come pick you up. Do you have a valid license? >> Do Do you have a license right now? >> No. >> I don't need no license. >> I don't need a license. >> Well, in the state of Florida, you have to have a valid driver's license to drive a motor vehicle on the roadway. You understand that, right? >> No. >> Being a police officer is an inherently dangerous job. So when you're told to do something and you tell them no, we're going to then make you do it. That's just the way it works. This whole sovereign, >> but it's still not afraid. They really I do not hurt anyone. I was not committing a crime. >> You committed dragged me. >> You committed a misdemeanor in the state of Florida. >> Listen. >> Well, you kicked him. >> Sir, I did not kick him. He's dragging my legs and I'm trying to pull my legs back to sit up in my seat. He got kicked. It was not intentional. >> You were driving a motor vehicle that is unregistered in the state of Florida, which is a misdemeanor crime punishable by jail and fines. So, you can go to jail for it >> and you are going to jail for it. >> In the end, she was charged with no valid driver's license, resisting an officer on a law enforcement officer. Speaking of sovereign state nationals discovering the difference between traveling and driving, here's a rockheaded driver who chose to learn it the hard way. >> I am traveling. >> Okay. >> It is a difference between traveling and driving. All of these these these traffic things that you're trying to push, they're not constitutional. >> Not traveling. So, >> okay, we're past that. >> Not driving, brother. I'm trying to explain to you that you're breaking my constitutional right as you know it. On January the 23rd, 2025, at around 9:00 p.m. in Ohio, an officer on patrol pulled over Timothy Thomas driving in a no passing zone at 37 mph against the 35 speed limit. As the officers got to where the man parked just along the road, what was supposed to be a quick routine stop turned out to be one of the most difficult nights that he had ever experienced. >> Hello, my name is Patrol Msino with Bet Pike Police Department. Means for the stop, this is no passing zone. In the McGriver's book, they said that we use the passing as the passing zone. The passing lane. If somebody is going under the speed limit, you allow the pass. This is what it says. >> We were going 37. This is a 35 mph zone. >> They give you 5 miles to the hour. I know. >> In order to pass them, they have to be going less than half of the speed limit. So, if I was doing 37 and I was passing somebody at 37, I was only doing two miles over the speed, man. >> Yeah, it's not a speed thing. It's a passing thing. >> Okay. But this is the passing lane according to the driver's books. According to the I show you I mean put I'm going to put out the driver's book and show you that this is the pass. >> Now, all I need is your driver's license and proof of insurance. >> Driver's license and proof of insurance. That's what I'm asking for. I am not in capacity of driving. >> Okay. >> Okay. I am traveling. >> Okay. >> It is a difference between traveling and driving. >> Okay. >> Okay. Now, I understand where you're going with this. I understand there's a difference between traveling, but I also understand who uh Mike Pashan Christopher is. He's a pedary judge. And I understand what the overturning of Chevron means. They told you guys to stand down. Okay. All of these these these traffic things that you're trying to push, they're not constitutional. >> Okay. >> Now, now I know I'm not in the capacity driving and your job as a constable is to protect me from the corporation. Now, when I tell you that I'm not in the capacity of driving, that mean that you're acting at private capacity. Now you're you're you're acting in traffic for a corporation and that is in violation of our constitutional rights. Now you're going to know you're violating my constitutional right. >> I'm going to I'm going to cut you off. I'm explain to you that you can be sued. You can't be sued. >> That's nice. Are you not going to provide me with your driver's license? >> I don't I'm not driving. >> Okay. That's neither here nor there. Or are you failing to provide me with your driver's license? >> I'm not driving. I'm a driver. >> That's That's not what I'm saying. I usually have my >> All right. Turn off the car. Turn off the car. >> Okay. Will you provide me with your driver's license? >> Are you going to continue? >> That it's it's a yes or no. Are you providing me with your driver's license? Yes or no? >> That's because you're supervised. >> He's right there. >> The driver realized no matter how much he tried, he couldn't intimidate the officer. So, he decided to try out the officer's supervisor. And that single mistake marked the beginning of his downfall. >> How you doing, sir? What's going on this evening? >> I'm explaining to the officer, sir. I am exercising my constitutional right. I have >> Okay. Well, while you're traveling on public roads, sir, you got to have a valid driver's license in the state of Ohio to operate on that roadway or else you can't do that. So, >> do you have an any form of identification? >> Can you please step out of the vehicle for me? while you're off driving away. be safe because you're >> I'm telling you that you're operating a motor vehicle on this roadway and you got to perform or provide a valid form of identification here and the officer had a valid reason to stop you. It's simple. If whatever it may be, it could be a minor thing, right? If it is, then we can send you on your way, but you got to identify yourself. I I can't hear you. >> Yeah, I I I know that. You can go ahead and at the vehicle. Is there anything on you I need to know about? Do you have any weapons or anything like that? >> Don't be reaching around for anything. Okay. Well, that's not a big deal. That's not a big deal. We're not really worried about, you know. >> Okay. Well, I I appreciate that. Thank you for traveling down. >> I understand that. There are some other issues here while you're operating on this roadway. Can you go ahead and stop by with the other officer and we can get some identification and we can sort out what's going on here. >> Okay, we're past the traveling point. We're at the You got to identify yourself, sir, and step out of the vehicle for us. We're just trying to work with you here and be reasonable. >> All right, before you do anything, I see that knife on the floorboard, so don't reach for it. >> Oh, that's a steak knife. >> It's still a knife. >> You can grab it yourself. >> I'm not reaching in there. All right. Will you step on the car for us? >> I don't want to get in trouble. I just want down the road. >> All right. >> I went in to the drivers, but they said >> you still have to use your turn signal as well. >> Exactly. I'm not traveling. >> Okay. We're past that. >> Not driving. But I'm trying to explain to you because you're breaking my constitutional right as you know it. I'm telling you. >> We're not. You don't have a right. There's no right to drive. It's a privilege. >> I have a right to without without license or without tax on my my personal property. I'm allowed to travel upon these roads. I am. I do know my rights. >> Are you Are you refusing to step out of the vehicle? >> What do I have to What do I have to step out of the vehicle, sir? Don't arrest me, snatch me out my vehicle if I don't step out. What we're doing is asking for identification in your driver's license. That is required. >> Do you have a driver's license? >> I'm not driving though. So why am I having a driving license for a a not performing performing my constitutional right? I don't I didn't see anything. I can pick it up right now. I didn't have that right. Thank you, man. >> Go ahead and step on the car for us. Thank you. >> Despite how difficult Thomas was trying to make things for the officer as a sovereign state national. The walls were closing in on him faster than he had imagined. >> Come here. Okay. I'm just going to get my left side. All right. I'm I'm going to step out. You just just say yes. I'm forcing you and I would have stepped out. You don't have to grab me. >> All right, we're getting past that point. >> Okay, you could have just said, "Hey, you have to step out." Yes, I'm forcing you. You don't have to You don't have to You don't have to just start grabbing all over me and stuff like that, sir. I'm not trying to do anything to you. >> Stop. I'm not being dude. I have Parkinson's disease and I have dementia and my spine. So, please do not handle me in that form of flash. >> All right. Put your hands on top of the on top of the truck. >> It's cold, man. >> Yeah. Can I >> put your glove on? >> I think I got another one in the pocket. >> No. No. >> Can you see? >> Not right now. Hang on. No, don't reach in there. You said >> there's no weapons. >> Okay. Said you're looking for a glove. >> Okay. >> No. You got your phone in there? >> You don't think so? No, no, not >> what are you all fidgety for? I mean, oh, yeah. You check these pockets. >> Yeah. Got a phone in there. >> Yeah. One, too. >> All right. Go ahead and place your right hand behind your back for me. Failure to identify yourself. >> Fail to identify. >> Yeah. >> All right. Finish searching. >> Do know you guys could be sued, but it's like I mean I hope your guard your guard is your cams on. >> Of course they are. >> Okay. You know who Mark Christopher is the planetary postal judge? No, I don't. >> You know what the overturn in the chevron means? You don't know what the overturning the chevron means? >> Those are all your cards and cash. Keep that in your pocket. That's yours. >> You don't know what the overturn in the chevron means. Do >> you have anything underocket? Have you ever heard over that? >> You guys never heard of it, huh? >> You got Okay. All right. $250,000. >> I'm just I'm just informing Oh, I appreciate you. Thanks so much. >> Well, Josh better lick it up. You guys better lick it up. >> All right, go ahead and take your seat. All right. Whose car is that in relation to you? So, I'm arrested now. >> No, you're just being detained. >> Detainedness is total arrest. >> Okay. Are you still going to fail to identify yourself? >> You going to go ahead and take somebody in that didn't do nothing >> and arrest somebody that didn't do nothing, riding down the street in America. You call this a free country. >> At this point, reality had finally blown up in Thomas's face, and he knew he was going to spend the cold night in jail. The more he tried to have his way around the reality stacked before him, the more officers discovered more incriminating evidence against him. >> My name is Thomas. >> Thomas. >> Yes. >> What's your last name? >> That is my last name. >> Refused to identify working that out. >> Thomas. >> Tim Thomas. >> Yes. >> All right. You know that providing me any false information is also another >> offense. Correct. >> This going to take me to jail. So, might as well just go ahead and take it through unidentified man. We can alleviate a lot of these problems if you just tell us what your name is. Go ahead and take a uh go take a rest. Y'all don't y'all don't supposed to do this. I'm asking you're not going to do anything wrong. I was on the passenger. You get all this stuff. Ain't no nothing in that car. What about the other larger bags in >> What about it? >> You just said there's no >> Oh, man. I mean, I ain't even really I was in there because people else in there was in there. You see what I had? That's what I had on me. That's what I thought I had. I was in there. >> Okay. >> And then we department. So, and what that got to do with anything because it was legal. >> Okay. Well, for in the car body and stuff, just buy it and they just buy it. It's no >> pretty sure you can only have up to a certain amount. But >> I know how much it is and that's not and that's under that. >> Okay. >> All right. We'll find that out then. >> You don't supposed to be. You know how much it is. You're supposed to be the police. You taking people stuff and don't even know how much they supposed to be. >> I take 3 oz. You have at least 3 oz. You like 3 oz right there in the law pad. You It's even more than that. Now, >> I've been talking with you this whole time. How am I supposed to see what's in the gut box? >> I know it's under an ounce in there. It ain't no 2 oz or no quarter pound or nothing like that cuz I don't have nobody in my car that carry that much in there. If they get in there, they smoke some in my car, they get a lead, something. >> So, this is your car. >> This is the vehicle that I was traveling in. >> Okay. But what you just said is your car. So, you are then taking responsibility for everything that is in said car. Are you seeing who the car is? Is the car in my name? >> I wouldn't know cuz you won't tell me what your name is. >> Okay. So, >> ain't nothing in the car that's illegal anyway. >> Okay. >> Unlawful or nothing illegal. No. Okay. >> So, you told me that your name is Timothy Thomas. >> I told you that's the name I go by. >> Okay. Which is you saying that that is your name? That is the name that you have decided to give me. No, >> I'm saying that's the name I go by. >> Okay. I'm asking for your name. If you tell me Timothy Thomas, that is exactly what I'm going to go with. I mean, you go ahead and take an unidentified. You just break an order. I better look out who the planetary post is over. You breaking all my You breaking all. In the end, he was charged with driving upon a closed highway, exceeding the speed limit, and failure to display a driver's license. If you think Thomas was extremely delusional, then you should meet this woman who, after breaking traffic laws left and right, chose to play the victim card. I'll need three things from me. Your license, your registration on the vehicle, and your insurance. >> Business. >> Say again. >> I don't conspire on business. This is kid, and it's for her to threaten me behind this well-being of my daughter. >> Yeah. >> Are you aware of that? You're entitled to nothing. >> Excuse me. You saying I don't have rights? I'm not a traffic offender. >> Yeah, you're a habitual traffic offender, so you're going to get a felony for that, too. >> On November the 6th, 2025, on a rainy evening in a quiet Peniscola, Florida neighborhood, Officer Massie and fellow officers pulled over a woman for driving with an expired license and a headlight out in the rain. Under normal circumstances, a stop like this might end with a warning and a reminder to get these issues fixed. There was just one problem. The woman behind the wheel was a self-proclaimed sovereign state national, a group known for turning the simplest of traffic stops into something unexpected. Can you roll the window down, please? >> Hey, how are you? >> All right. >> Hey, I'm officer Massie. I'm stopping the vehicle for two different reasons. First reason is your license is suspended. Okay. And secondly, your headlights are not on and it's raining outside. Go ahead. Did you know that your license was suspended? >> Supposed to be on a >> Could you call us? Sorry. No, I cannot. >> I copied Charlie K. >> You're more than welcome to call 4351845 and request one, but >> he's not going to come out just for you requesting to talk to him. I'm I'm perfectly capable of of doing my job. Okay. >> Um, do you have any any questions in reference to why you I stopped you? Okay. So, I need three things from me. Your license, your registration on the vehicle, and your insurance. >> Say again. >> I don't. I don't know what that means, ma'am. >> I don't conspire in your business. I do not understand. I don't answer. >> Okay. Do you have a driver's license? >> Okay. So, man, this is going to go >> State. I don't care. >> Okay. So, listen. This is going to go one way and one way only. Okay. You are going to identify yourself and if you refuse to, I'm going to remove you from the vehicle, but I'm going to place you under arrest. >> I'm not refusing. >> You are? >> Because I'm not from >> Okay. You're in violation of two Florida state statutes and you have to provide your license or you have to identify yourself. You have not done either of those. >> Identify myself. >> Sure. >> Go ahead. Sorry. Another um so here's the deal. Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm 26. I'm just standby. Um, so here's the deal, okay? >> I'm going to I'm going to give you one more chance, okay, to provide your identification. >> And if you don't, you're going to jail. >> Cuz I'm a super I'm I'm super nice, right? If you just provide your ID, you know, you might just get a warning, you know, but when behavior like this this continues, >> I'm more likely to right side. Okay. So, you have to identify yourself >> in my lap and I've identified myself as a >> state national. Okay. >> At this point, the officers had confirmed that they were dealing with yet another sovereign state national behind the wheel. While the woman remained lost in the illusion that she was only minutes away from continuing her free ride, she was too dumb to know that stops like this often don't end as desired. >> You're on the roadway in the state of Florida and you're in violation of two state statutes and you have still not identified yourself. That's why I've asked several times. Okay? So, get out of the vehicle. Come on. Get out of the vehicle. Turn away from me. Turn away from me. Turn around. Hands behind your back. Interlock your hands like you're praying. >> Gotcha. Ma'am, fill this [ __ ] for me. Okay. I'll come back and talk to you. >> One minute. >> Take a step to your right, please. Take a step to your right, please. I don't want you to get all soaking wet. Is there anyone else in here besides Hey, baby. You okay? Okay. Just one second. Okay. I'll walk her back. If you'll just stand with the rest. I think we'll be good with that. >> Ma'am, do you have anything on your person you're not supposed to have? Okay. >> Over here. I'd like to give you a notice. >> Hey, Tom. Officer Thompson, swap with me, please. And if you'll search her, They're okay. I'm not worried about them. They've been chill the whole time. >> I'd like for you to take notice that I've I've, you know, let >> After having her in the back of the cruiser, the officers contacted another friend, Miss Rivers, to take custody of her daughter and the vehicle home. Just as the officers were preparing to wrap up the scene, they had no idea that she was only getting started. >> Is your dad's number 418? >> Listening. >> Okay, well, that chance has ended. We're just going to do the DCF route then. This is free and I ask that you call Sergeant and identify me correctly. >> You just spoke to one. >> I ask that you identify me correctly. Identify me correctly. This is kid and it's coercion to threaten me behind this well-being of my daughter. >> Yeah. >> Are you aware of that? Shh. Are you upset because you feel that you don't have the correct information? I'm entitled to that. >> You're entitled to nothing. Excuse me. You saying I don't have rights? >> You do. >> Okay. >> But I don't if I don't want to let you speak to them, I'm not going to. >> Well, you were you were nasty from the beginning so far. >> Oh, was I really? I think I'm actually very nice. >> No, you weren't. >> I found positive on her. >> Oh, she's habitual, too. >> Oh, that's why she have a warrant. Yeah, that's why. >> And you're a habitual traffic offender, too. So, >> you're not a traffic offender. >> Yeah, you're a habitual traffic offender. So, you're going to get a felony for that, too. >> I didn't struggle with you. >> What? What do you mean? What was my behavior to your stand? >> This would have went much much easier if you just provided your information like everyone else does from the beginning. >> That to provide that information. Is that not doing business with you? So, I have to conduct business the correct way. Is that not true? >> 100%. I agree with you. >> All right. which you refused to do. >> Hold on a minute. I let you know that I did have my back on my vessel >> and that I do have it. >> None of those words were said. >> I asked for a sergeant. Yep. >> And the sergeant has a call to call as well. >> Oh, really? Does he? Okay. Interesting. >> Yes. He had he has he has the uh overanding to do business as is to be done. >> Well, >> yeah. In the end, she was charged with failure to use headlights when required and driving with an expired driver's license.