I'm telling you now I'm telling you now you're not going to touch me have your fun now when she comes she's going to make the final decision you're not going to touch me that's for sure there's there's no need for that you can do about you're not going to touch me I know that what are you going to do with I yeah if I do I have I'm good I'm good I'm going walk away okay this case is about a person sha the journalist who knows he has the film right but he runs into an officer who challenges him let's discuss how Sha's day turned into an important lesson on freedom in March 2023 in the busy city of Philadelphia Pennsylvania the man Shawn Paul rise also known as Long Island audit on YouTube he wanted to teach people and share information so he went to the general Services administration building with his camera he was ready to peacefully use his right to free speech sha chose to go to the general Services administration building Not to cause trouble but to use his rights given by the Constitution he brought his camera to record what was happening he wanted to show what the place was like EXC who are you ma'am who are you ma'am Who Are You [Music] Ma'am why why is that why could I take why can't I take video you speak to the you're the one telling me he didn't tell me I couldn't take video you told me so you don't know why you just know you just telling me what to do without knowing why nothing I'm she she started talking to me I have no idea you could record in this area yeah this I can record all the publicly accessible laries I know I know what I'm doing here it's [Music] okay I'm recording everywhere in the publicly accessible areas okay I didn't I didn't go by look come here come here I didn't go past where it says employees VA employees only I didn't go past there okay I didn't go into any restricted areas a staff member tried to stop Shawn from filming saying it wasn't allowed but Shawn wasn't bothered he said he wants to make a film where everyone can go like you didn't have my permission ma'am who are you can you tell me that now or I told you no you didn't I did I have no idea who you are sta member your federal government employee federal government employee and your so that means you're Public Service you're public servant you were recording me without my permission so that means that you're state of Pennsylvania that's against the law so you should so if you if you feel that that's against the law you should call law enforcement ma your video ma'am if you feel that's against the law you should call law enforcement and maybe they can educate [Music] youal so ma'am you just admitted you are a public servant so what's your name and title here you said you work for the public contact what's your name ma' as a public servant for the federal government I answer that to you you don't need to no I don't just Comm courtesy of a public oh for sure yeah okay great then I'm definitely not going to answer it okay even though people tried to stop him and said he couldn't film Shawn didn't give up he stated where he was allowed to be and only filmed things that anyone could see he didn't try to film things that were private he just wanted to show that he could film in public places because it was his right to do so a police officer from the federal service came up to sha starting a situation they both didn't plan for sha remained strong but polite saying don't touch me he was confident because he knew his rights well how you doing today sir I'm good how are you I'm doing well can I get your name and badge number please you can have my badge number your name that's all I'm required to give you by law I'm not required to give you my name and you're not it's not it's it's not about being reed2 that's my identity so let me ask you what is your business here do I have to answer that question by law yes you do by law you're in a federal facility so that doesn't mean that I have to answer your questions cuz I answered a federal facility yes you do yes you do because you want to be technical by the law let's be Technic by the LA says that you have to yeah no that doesn't CFR 1027 show me where it says that I have to answer your questions and before we continue if you're finding this case mystifying do give this video a like and share it with others and don't forget to subscribe the situation changed when FPS officers who didn't know much about the law on filming in public threatened to kick sha out you have to be here on official business you whether that what that official business is when when you come into a federal facility it's a constitutionally protected business what's your Federal Business what's your official business I would refer you sir to the DHS memo what's your official business are you familiar with the not going to answer the question I'm I'm referring you to your you are DHS correct you want to answer the question sir you're D I asked you a question first you answer my question with question going I'm no I'm not answering with a question sir I'm telling you you my question yet sha knew about his rights and the rules for public buildings he mentioned a memo from the Department of Homeland Security 2018 this memo said it's okay to film in public places but even though sha mentioned this memo the officer didn't agree maybe the officer wasn't used to people questioning him or he didn't know about the memo he warned Shan that he might be kicked out of the building I'm telling you as DHS as DHS I'm telling you to look at the DHS Memo from 2018 we have a special agent on the way up yeah that's fine she's going she's going to make the Judgment call whether you could be here or not and if not I'm going to throw you up you're not going to touch me that's for I'm telling you now you're not going to throw me out you know that now so have your fun tell you now I'm tell you now you're not going to touch me have your fun now when she comes she's going to make the final decision you're not going to touch me that's for sure there's nothing you there's no need for that there nothing you can do about you're not going to touch me I know that what are you going to do if I yeah if I do don't worry about it do it I have a legal right to do do it no you don't you have to abide by the rules no you have to abide by the rules there's a DHS Memo from 2018 why aren't you buying by your own rules D your own your own policies and procedures DSO does not supersede the law 2018 read it read it read it 41 CFR 10274 yeah what does it say says that you can come into read it read it sure I bought it in here especially for you so you can see oh okay gotcha so this is a a memo on First Amendment Auditors is that who I am is that what you are claiming to be never once okay never once claimed to be that you're showing characteristic traits that that's that's what you are oh you're and you're showing characteristic traits that you're a tyrant by saying you're going to throw me out if I was a tyrant I would have threw you out no you're you're not going to now no later as things got tenser a new person showed o special agent Kingsley he was calm and understood what was happening and the rules for public places she stepped in Kingsley was like a link between the strict position of the police and the rights of people to record and ask questions special agent right here Hi how are you man yeah how are you I'm sorry I just want to show you my credential oh sure special agent with FPS what's going on hi um I'm just in the publicly there's a DHS mode from 2018 I'm just in the publicly accessible areas my name is Shan I'm not doing anything illegal I'm not you know the the Ada here says that I can't take pictures of employees but I have a government I have a right to film government employees in the course of their Duty and the DHS memo there's no need for you to put those on there's no need so you see your officer here is threatening to throw me out and and get physical with me I have not once escalated the situation yeah you said you were going to throw me out I have I'm good I'm good I'm going walk away I'm going be right here I have not once escalated the situation I've identified no I don't need any I don't need any help I'm just taking some pictures of building of the government in the publicly accessible areas of this building here that's all I'm working on a story I'm a journalist that's it and I haven't bothered anyone I'm not I'm not doing anything wrong I'm I've been very reasonable I've identified myself I I don't know what else I can do to no you're fine and just so I'm Claire do you have any business with the VA today I have no business directly with the with with with them other than asking questions I'm just taking some pictures in the publicly accessible areas ma'am that's it that's all you're good all right thank you did you say your name was my name is Sean Sean yeah my name is Sean I'm an independent journalist you did you go through security screening I did I did yes I did of course no I went through I went through the security screening just check yeah no nothing I obviously have nothing on me I'm just taking some pictures of video in the publicly accessible areas of this building and that's all I'm and and you said your name was I didn't special agent Kingsley Kingsley thank you special agent Kingsley I appreciate it okay have a good day agent Kingsley listened to sha and agreed that he could film in public places she didn't just try to calm things down she also made sure to show that it's important to know and respect public rights she explained to the officer where he misunderstood this shows how knowing the law well and respecting people's freedoms can solve problems before they get worse that's the end of our case about Shawn the officer and special agent Kingsley we saw how talking and understanding rights can solve problems what about you have you ever had to stand up for your rights or see someone else do it tell us in the comments remember it's important to know your rights and how to talk to others even when things get tough thanks for watching and stay safe and informed