Let me show you. >> you. >> Okay, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you what's in my bag. >> Okay, I'm not going in. >> Stop. >> Why are you trying to detain me and I'm not? >> Stop. >> I'm not. >> Stop. >> A woman walks out of a Sephora in Peoria carrying a bag and officers are already waiting on that sidewalk. She has no idea what they already know and that is the whole problem. >> Hey hon. Can you come here for a second? Uh there's there may be some confusion and some issues inside. >> What happened? >> have anything in your bag you should not >> No. I just returned some stuff. >> Okay, can you step over here with us? >> Why? >> There are a couple >> Here, let me Okay, let me go over here. Cuz I'm going to let you see. >> Well, we're not going to get in the car. >> I'm not getting in the car. I'm going to let you see that there's nothing in there. >> In your bag? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You're not getting in the car. >> in. >> You're not getting in the car. >> You're fighting me. Let me show you. >> you. >> Okay, I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you what's in my bag. >> Right now. >> Okay, can I show you? Yes or no? Okay, Skaggs. Let me show you. I'm going to set the bag down and show you. Yeah. >> In a stop like this, officers are not required to tell her what the store reported or show her any evidence. >> Okay, I'm not going in. >> Stop. >> you trying to detain me and I'm not? >> Stop. >> There's nothing in my bag. >> Stop. Stop. Stop. >> Okay, let go. What is he trying to do? >> Stop. >> I'm not doing that. I'm putting my hands in my pocket. >> Put them behind your back. >> I'm not. Why am I putting them in my pocket? I'm done. I don't care what they >> If you didn't do anything If you didn't do anything, then why are you unsure? >> Yes, tell them. Yes, no for sure. I came in No, I'm not going. I'm going back in the store. No. So I can finish my lying and stealing. Now I'm going in and >> You are resisting. Stop. >> Tell him to let me go. I'm not resisting. So put me in handcuffs. Why are you trying to take my bag? >> I'm trying to take your bag off so we can put your hands behind >> No. Why am I going in handcuffs? >> You have >> No, I don't. Let me go. Y'all are talking way too much right now. I said you can look in my >> Okay. >> Y'all are trying to take my stuff from y'all store. >> We're trying to be nice. We're trying to be nice. >> Let me go. >> Put your hands behind your back. Hands behind your back. Put your hands behind your back. We're trying to do it civil and you're not. >> Y'all Y'all can't get there. There's anything in my bag. I'm not doing nothing. I'm not trying to Yes. No, I'm going to I'm going to cooperate. Can I please turn around? >> No. >> Oh my god. >> You're going to be put in handcuffs. >> No. >> black? Yes, it is. >> No, it isn't. Ma'am, what is What is What's black about eating food? >> Yes, but you wouldn't let me talk like y'all do anybody else. >> Why are you resisting? You're trying You are. This is resisting, ma'am. >> Yes, no, I'm not. >> This is resisting, ma'am. Ma'am, this is resisting. I'm trying to get you control. I'm trying to get you control, hon. Yes. >> can't get in my bag. Nothing. That belongs to your store. >> The conversation has moved completely past the bag, and that is the real problem. >> Everything I have I came in with. >> Jeez, you made that harder than it had to >> No, I don't. >> Yes, you did. >> Cuz I wouldn't have did this if I was white. >> What are you talking about? >> There's nothing to DO WITH COLOR. >> WHAT COMES OUT OF ME? LET ME GO. >> DO YOU HAVE A receipt for the stuff? >> NO, I I DIDN'T I CAME in to do my return. The black girl at the thing. Can y'all go in there? >> We will. We're trying to do We're trying to figure this out and you're fighting us. >> No, you're not. >> THAT'S OUR PROTOCOL. >> NO, YOU'RE NOT. >> THAT'S our protocol. >> No, it's not. They called y'all here because I was black. >> No, it has nothing to >> So, why are you taking MY BAG? WHERE IS IT? TAKE IT. LOOK HOW YOU'RE DOING ME. >> HAVE a seat. >> That's my stuff I came in with. >> Okay, have a seat. >> Yes, it is. She said it. >> Have a seat. >> Okay, y'all do. I'm not sitting there. >> You have to. >> I don't have to. >> It's our procedure. >> No, it's not. I'm going to arrest y'all. >> Yes, you are. You are under arrest. YOU ARE NOW UNDER ARREST. YOU WERE UNDER ARREST when you started resisting. >> No, I didn't. That's against the law. >> No, it's not. >> Yes, it is. Y'all didn't even Mirandize me. >> We don't have to. We didn't ask you any questions yet. >> Right, so you need to. You're putting me in back of the car. No, take me in the store then, so I can go face-to-face with whatever that called you for. >> Well, ma'am, have a seat. >> NO, YES, IT DO. >> HAVE a seat. >> THEY SAYING THAT I PUSHED YOU AND MY BAG. That's what you said, right? This is on camera. >> Well, ma'am, >> Yes, you said it. And I told you I came in here with it, right? >> Ma'am, we haven't interviewed anybody inside yet. >> Right, SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT to them? >> Just cooperate. >> NO, I AM. Take me back in the store. >> No, you're not. >> Yes, I am. >> Ma'am, you know my name, but I don't even know your name. >> Yes, my name is My name is That's my last name. >> I don't know you, ma'am. >> Can you take me back in there? >> Once we get done with everything, we'll take you back in there. >> you take me back in there for? >> Yes, ma'am, HAVE A SEAT. >> WHY CAN'T you take me back? You keep saying sit. >> Listen, listen. >> No, I'm not listening because he's standing here and treating me >> I did not treat >> And then I'm telling him I'm pregnant. Look how you're doing me. >> What, arresting you? >> No, and I'm pregnant. >> Okay, you're the one that was resisting, not us. >> When? >> You weren't cooperating with us. >> When did I resist? >> Ma'am, I don't have >> no, I didn't. YOU CAME ALONG. I SAID, "I'll cooperate with you." YES, I DID. Y'ALL TWO AGAINST ONE. Come on, the police do this [ __ ] all the time. NO. I SAID, "WHAT'S the problem?" And I said, "Yeah, I'll show you. I'll come right to my car. He said you're not getting the car. I'm not trying to. >> No, I did not. You absolutely did. >> Are you kidding me? I'm in the backseat. >> Have a seat. >> I'm in the backseat. >> Have a seat. >> I'm in the backseat. >> Have a seat. >> And they're recording it right now. I hope it is recording. >> It's all recording. >> Right. So give me a a sergeant out here. >> A call from the store is enough to stop and detain someone without verifying the report first. She just figured that out and she is not going to let it go. >> We will. >> No, quiet down. No, don't because that's my bag and you're saying let me search your bag. I came in with that bag. I went to the damn customer service desk, right? And then I asked the girl in [ __ ] Sephora. So what the [ __ ] belongs to them in that bag? >> If this was not that big of a deal, why are you putting up such a fight? >> Because I'm trying to figure OUT WHY DID THEY EVEN CALL YOU? >> such a fight? >> Because I have my rights, too. >> You're right. >> What's my right? >> You lost your right when you said you would >> No, I didn't. I didn't. >> You lost your right when YOU SAID YOU >> I DID NOT RESIST. I did not GET IN THE CAR. YOU LET ME WALK TO MY CAR. I SAID I'll show you. Said okay. That's what you said on camera. Why you got your jacket covering it up? >> It's not covered up. >> My second >> I tell you what, we're going to >> Where's the sergeant? >> Yeah, they're coming. They're coming. >> No, they're right there. >> No, that's the sergeant. >> No, who is it then? >> It's another officer. >> Can y'all please take over? I know y'all all work together, but they my rights have been violated. I came in with that bag and he going to tell me that they called >> You want to have a seat in our car? >> Yes, please, Smith. I don't want to I want to talk to you. Please, can you? >> You got to relax. >> I am. Can you tell him to let me go? You should see how he did me and I'm pregnant. Look at him grabbing me. Get off of me. >> He's going to take you and we're going to put you in the car. >> All right. >> Come on. Come on. >> Man. >> Come on. You got to relax a little bit, okay? >> Yes, he's crazy. Man, look. Look what y'all started. >> Okay, you're going to go outside. >> No, Smith. What is the procedure? >> You have to when you're You're to get in our car and we'll talk about it. >> Okay, but what did they call y'all for? For one person and I'm a black female. >> Come on, let's go. >> Why? >> You can't. >> Okay, we'll talk about Thank you. They talked to you first. >> No, you didn't talk to me first. You took all my stuff. Damn. That don't make no sense. You took all my stuff. Okay, can I wait? >> No, you got to get in our car. >> Can I No, I need to get you something. >> No, you're going to get in our car. >> Why do I got to get in the car? >> You just >> It's called stuff, okay? >> Do you got anything on you anymore? >> No, no, I don't. >> Nothing? Okay, you got to get in our car. >> Yes. >> So I want to get you out of the car. >> Thank you. Smith, but my question is what is the problem? Can you explain this to me? >> I don't know what you have. Smith took all your stuff. >> Why and they talking about you got some of her stuff. >> I don't know what you have. >> Why would they lie and say I got it when I came in with everything I came in with? Me? My first name is what? Why? >> Why? >> No, why? Do y'all need my first name? >> Please get in the car. >> Huh? >> Please get in >> You guys need 13 or 14? >> I'm asking a question. >> Get in the car. >> No, I'm asking the questions. >> Stand out here in the cold. >> Okay, I know. That's fine. That's why I want to know. Can you take me in there? They have a room that you can detain in? >> No, that's why we have a car here for you. >> Okay, but why am I being detained? >> Are you going to get in the car or not? >> No, I'm going to stand out here. >> 60-16 car wagon, please. >> What's the wagon for? >> Because you know I wasn't >> She has been on this sidewalk for almost 10 minutes and the only exit being offered is the backseat of a car she did not come here in. >> Yes, I am. No, I'm not. >> Have a seat in the car. >> Can I please No, I'm pregnant. He already slammed me and did all this [ __ ] I mean >> I didn't slam you, but I helped >> No, he did, but can you call? >> If you're pregnant, then do your baby right and have a >> Right, can you call for a medical assistance? >> Yeah. >> Are you a sergeant? >> Okay. >> Have a seat in the car. >> Are you Can you get one? >> Yeah, one's coming. Sit in the car. >> Oh, is that you? I'm thinking you a different one with that hat on. >> Have a seat in the car. >> Can I get a sergeant? >> Yeah, you'll get a sergeant. >> How long? >> I don't know. Sit in the car, please. >> Why do I have to sit in the car if I'm not going anywhere? Why can't I go in the store? >> Right now, you're officer being detained. You're in handcuffs. >> Why? Right, because guess why? >> I don't care. If you want to sit >> Yes, I do. But I'm trying to figure out why am I >> about how you're pregnant AND MIGHT >> YES, I AM. I'm not saying it, but look at y'all. It's four men against one woman. >> Okay, I've got >> And I'm trying to figure out what was in my bag that y'all claim that went in my bag. >> I didn't claim anything. I didn't claim anything. >> Yes, he did. When he came up on the scene, HE SAID, "OH, MA'AM, THIS TELL US, do you have anything that belongs to that store?" Everything I have here I came in with. >> Sit in the car. Sit in the car. >> Then I came in to do a return. So, why do I have anything in that bag? >> Okay, sit in the car. >> Right. Right. So, who called the police and said I had something in my bag? >> THE STORE DID. >> RIGHT, WHY? BECAUSE I'M AFRICAN-AMERICAN? >> NO, NO. We don't play that game. >> Man, I'm the only I'm the only one that that came out that store that's getting the police called on. >> I'll tell you. Have a seat in the car. Have a seat. >> What's going on? >> Have a seat. Have a seat. >> your stuff and then I have the rest of the stuff that belongs to the store that >> That does not belong to the store. Want me to prove it? No, it's not. Are you KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW? CUZ I CAN prove Okay, if you give me a point to prove to you that I'm not lying. No, can you give me a proof? >> car. >> No, can you give me a point to prove to you, yes or no? Just yes or No, it's not. What's on camera? >> ALL OF IT. >> ME PUTTING stuff in my bag? >> YOU JUST WALKED OUT THE STORE WITHOUT PAYING FOR >> NO, I DIDN'T. Oh my god. Are you kidding me right now? >> You obviously didn't care. >> That was my [ __ ] Can you please give me a chance to prove this? >> Well, you will if you sit in the car, which you don't want to do that. >> Where's the camera at? >> Inside the store. >> Nobody has gone inside to pull that footage yet, and right now that footage is the only thing that resolves this. >> Okay, we know you're playing games. >> I'm not I'm not. >> You are. >> Do you want to prove >> You asked what the deal was. You asked >> walk to walk Do you want to walk me to my car right now? >> Walk to your car and try to get you in the >> Man, I'm trying to tell y'all y'all they sitting here lying. He Look how he looking. Nova, I'm not right now. >> think they're lying? >> Yes, they are. How did they If I had He took my whole bag, right? >> You know what You know what, keep yelling. Just keep yelling where everybody >> No, he took my whole bag. How the [ __ ] did I not have anything in there with that stuff in my bag? >> Keep yelling. >> He full of [ __ ] That's why he taking that stuff to my car. He talking about it was on camera. Camera where? >> That's what I'm saying. >> The camera's everywhere. When I came in there, I did a return. And I did a No, I'm not. That's No, I'm not. He got my stuff. And he got my stuff. >> Oh, you know what? You're going to go to jail. >> Why? >> He just told you. You asked He TOLD YOU >> GOD. NO, that's why you know Yes, he's lying. Nova, if you go back in that store and ask her >> No, you're not allowed to go back in the store. >> Oh my god. So, what is he going to do? >> Arrest you. He just told you. >> For what? >> You don't want to HEAR IT. >> WHY IS he sitting there right now? >> Because you won't get in your damn in the damn car here. >> Here come another police officer, too. >> Get in the car. Everybody can watch you yell and scream and throw a fit. >> Yes, they are going to watch me yell and scream and throw a fit. >> I don't care. >> Me either. And I'm finished saying that. Is the sergeant coming? >> Yep. >> Is that him? >> yell and scream at him, too. >> Okay, good. I'm not going to yell and scream. I'm going to tell him because you knew I wanted to say it. >> I am, uh-huh. >> No, I'm talking about you just came. They are so full of [ __ ] right now, Smith. >> to treat you decently. I was trying >> you are. I'm not. >> Tell you what. >> It's this car and y'all take me to jail. Then what? >> I don't want to hear it. >> Prove my point. >> to be nice to you. >> Y'all all work together. He came up No, he came out here and lying. He came out here lying talking about I took something. I was literally in the store watching camera. No, because that was so Yes, and I was in there 2 minutes. >> 2 minutes and I stole some [ __ ] And your chance to prove it in court. >> 2 minutes and I stole some [ __ ] >> Well, I mean, it takes me 30 >> No, but I went in I went in there literally to ask them can they return some [ __ ] So, how did I steal something that quick? >> You don't want to listen to anything we say, so it doesn't matter. >> That's the thing. >> It doesn't matter. >> Yes, it do because you saying that I got to prove it in court. You saying I got to prove it in court. So, then now it's on my record. And now I already got Now I already got to come back and forth to Peoria for uh What is this going to be? A retail? Now I got to come back and forth to Peoria for a retail and then what? >> Not my problem. >> I know you don't care. That's how y'all be. But then y'all talking about y'all doing all this good. >> Where do you not live in? >> No, I don't live here. That's why I came and I returned my damn thing that I had I bought for Christmas when we was here at Christmas time. She just bought the damn thing January 1st. The black girl is at the customer service desk. I asked her can I return it? She said no. I walked through the store and I walked through the store and I I looking at other stuff. What did I steal in that amount of time? >> Well, I don't know. I didn't look at the cameras and I wasn't there. >> Man, go look at the cameras. Ain't [ __ ] on that camera. >> the camera. Told you that. You just don't want to hear anything we have to say. >> I know he's lying. I know he's lying. >> Okay, I'm sure he's lying. >> Man. >> What do you have? Family that lives here or what? >> Yeah. >> Where are you from? >> Me? >> Yeah. >> Oakland. >> Her story has not shifted once across the last 10 minutes. Two completely different versions of what happened in that store and neither side is moving. >> I'm done talking. >> Can you move? >> Can you move my hair out of my mouth, please? >> And we don't have to >> Like do that. >> We don't have to >> Why he can't do it? I'm talking to him. >> I know and I'm telling him he's not going >> Why? Cuz you're trying to run him. You don't run him. >> I do. >> Josh had claimed she was pregnant and I don't know. >> So, what's going on? >> Nothing. He bent my arm back. That's what's going on and I'm a female. Then he's cuffing Yes, my arm feel like it's dislocated. My right arm. I don't know if you got to pop it back in or what. >> You won't listen to any reason. Okay. >> I am listening. Why would you tell him that? He's Let him have his own No, let him have his own uh discretion at when he come. You don't tell him that I don't listen. I might listen to him. >> Okay. >> I'm saying that he's trying to do wrestling moves on a female. That's weird. Very weird. I'm waiting on the sergeant to No, he told me that I can walk back to the car, right? So, I'm walking back to the car. I'm walking back to the car. He takes and grabs my arm. I'm like, "Okay." He's like, "Do you have anything from this store that doesn't belong to you?" I'm like, "No." So, I'm So, as I'm walking to the car, he takes my arm, slams me, do twist my arm all behind my back talking about, "Now you're uh refusing." I never even once refused. If I'm getting to the back seat, how am I going to get into the front seat? >> Okay. So, why why >> I was walking. though. I I because my arm is sore. >> Oh, you just said because you're pregnant. >> Yeah, no, I didn't say because I was pregnant because he did it. Are you a sergeant, sir? Can I speak to you, please? >> Are you wanting to go to the hospital? >> No, no, no, you still >> No, I don't. >> to stay here. You're not going to walk around. You don't run the show. >> I didn't say Sergeant, can I talk to you, please? Man. What's up, man? First of all, No. No, my arm is sore because he I don't think I do, but my arm is popped back in. No. >> She is not venting anymore. She is building a case. >> So, what's going on? >> Well, when I came out the store I'm coming out the store and I'm walking casually. They sit right there. I seen them sitting right there. So, I'm walking and I'm like uh the officer calls me out. He said, "Hey, is there anything you have in the store that don't don't belong to you?" No. I know Kohl's has cameras. I'm not dumb and not oblivious to this. They played me like I'm so dumb, Walden. And I'm like, "No, I don't." So, I when I went in the store, I already had [ __ ] in that bag and then including my pillow, that curling iron, and that and stuff that was already in the bag that was at the bottom of the bag. When I went into the store, they asked me I had asked the black girl at the customer service desk, "Can I do a return because I had a curling iron set, which is that yellow thing, that I wanted to return?" She told me no. Hold on one second. I've got to puke. So, she tells me um no. It's at her It's at her discretion or whatever the case may be. So, I'm like, "Okay, that's fine." And then she's like, "Do you got anything else?" And I thought about it because I had some scents that I needed to return too. But I'm like, "Never mind." Some scents. Like smell good. Yeah, so yes. And so I'm like, "Okay, where do you return it to?" Because when it told her that it's not in her system. I forgot because curl and I are probably usually do come from the Sephora store. I've been to the the Sephora stores. My mom then ordered online from the Sephora store. I've been in calls. Okay, we know you got thousands and gazillions of cameras. That would be overkill right now. That's not on my agenda to come in here and take [ __ ] He like, "Oh, they're on camera." So, I come outside. I'm trying to I'm like, "Okay, let's go and put my purse on the back of the car." I'm like, "I'll open my bag and show you." He's like, "No, you're not going to show me anything." I said, "So, if they are actually accusing me of taking something from the store, right? I'm not even 10 ft from out of the store, right? I'm like, "Okay, I'll show you." This man goes to taking my arm, twisting it behind my back. He was like, "You're not going to get in that car and run." I'm not trying to run. It's all on body cam. If you watching when they watch it, it is Yes, please do. I'm begging you. So, I'm like, "I'm not trying to resist." So, they trying to do it to where I got my purse thing on my arm. That's why my arm feel like it's dislocated. He takes the thing and rips it off my arm. Oh, let me look in here. I'm trying to show you already as it is. So, then he like, "Well, we're going to go in there and watch it on the camera." That's fine. That's fine. And I told him, "I'll stay out here. I'll go back in the store like you If you want me to go in there, they got a room in there. I'm sure they got a side room or however they do it. I don't even know." >> You got to do the investigation yet or not? >> No, I don't even know what they did. He took my bag. >> So, let's go and have a seat in the squad car and let's talk. >> my bag. But, Walden, this is This is what I'm asking you. I'm asking you what's going to go on. >> Well, I don't know yet because I haven't looked at any anything. >> The sergeant is the only one in this entire stop who has not already picked a side. >> And this is crazy that my son is at daycare, but anyways, he said he was going to go in there I'm going to look in there I'm going to look on camera. They said that you have some things. He said it out his He said they said you had something. I said why? Because I'm the only black person in the store. But why did he Why did you call the police and I haven't even been in here? I can literally I've literally been in the store 5 minutes, 7 at the most. So, how is it in 7 minutes that y'all figured that I got stuff in my bag? >> Again, I wasn't here. So, and and the officers weren't here either. So, they have to they have to investigate, all right? >> There's There's nothing and then the car that I had is still sitting at the damn door. >> Well, let us investigate this. >> Right. So, why do I got to sit in a police car and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait? Why? >> You're in custody right now. >> Why, sergeant? >> First off, they were they were conducting an investigation and >> And I came willingly. >> Sounds like to me you weren't. >> Well, then why would I sit here? Look on their cameras right now if you can do it. Right, but why would I do that? It's their word. It's two of them against me. >> I'm going to go look at the cameras. >> And then what? >> Well, we're going to see. >> Then if nothing was took, then what? I'm not It's not like y'all going to apologize. Because why did he take all my other stuff out the bag? >> I've got to look at the cameras. >> What I'm asking that though. Why is he taking all my other stuff? Why Why didn't all of the stuff get took? >> So, if if you did take stuff from inside, that's a crime. >> I did I never took all I never took nothing. Me? >> Your name? >> My name >> What's your name? >> It doesn't even matter, Walden. >> My name is My name is >> I I know it is. But I know it Why does it even matter? >> Okay, whatever. >> Can I talk to you in private? >> [ __ ] what? I'm just trying to >> The sergeant walks inside and that is where it ends. She was arrested at the scene for resisting. We do not know what the store cameras showed or whether any retail theft charge was ever filed. Leave your thoughts in the comments. The bag was right there the entire time. Should officers have looked inside it before putting her in handcuffs? Or does a store's report give them enough to move forward without that?