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good afternoon this is Daniel here with
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is where we're going to break down some
of the most interesting stories in
policing that happened in this last week
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we have some Becky in from Alabama I
can't pronounce that City though we have
a couple people in from Maryland and it
is St Patrick's Day so want to welcome
everyone in on on St Patrick's Day and
we're going to get right into it so this
first case listen this is a strange case
and you know a lot of times you see
cases in the news and you read headlines
and sometimes you think maybe this is
[ __ ] maybe this is bad this one
seems like it's going to be bad now of
course until we get the body cam footage
and can really listen to know exactly
what's going on in the case it's really
hard to tell exactly what we think you
know our final opinions might be but
just to be is completely transparent as
I can be this one doesn't look good so
this one was from Virginia the 28 year
old named ivoro
otenio he was a 28 year old in Virginia
and he just died in the custody of
sheriff's deputies here's what happened
let me tell you the story of this one so
this is an individual Mr otenio again he
was 28 years old and he had some mental
health problems so there was a call for
service where there was a burglary in
progress he was contacted by police
officers police officers did arrest him
for that burglary during his arrest he
did assault three police officers so
they took him to jail now not only did
they take him to jail but they also left
the jail staff know that hey this guy
does have some mental health problems so
they did put in the paperwork that you
know he should be held on some type of
emergency hold order due to mental
health reasons you know a lot of states
have these laws where if an individual
is a heart is a threat to harm either
themselves or other people or they just
simply can't take care of themselves
police officers can hold people on a
mental health order essentially it's
called different things in different
states but so it seems like the
individual he was charged with the
felony the burglary the assaulting
police officers and then also they had
this mental health hold so he was
arrested on March 3rd that's when all
this happened and um essentially this
how this was with a Henrico County
Deputy so besides assaulting the police
officers there were no other issues with
the arrest he was taken to the jail now
the jail like most jails are run by the
the the county sheriff and the county
deputies are the ones who run the jail
so while he was at the jail on March 6th
not sure if it was in reference to the
initial three days later not sure if
this was in reference to the initial
emergency medical mental health order
that was filed by the initial police
officers or it was something that the
the sheriff's department saw while he
was in custody but three days later on
March 6 he was transported from the jail
to a mental health facility that was
outside the jail and it was during that
transport when the incident occurred so
all we know so far is that there were
seven deputies as part of this transport
team and also during the transport there
were three people who were employed by
the hospital now right now we don't know
if they were orderlies or if they were
nurses um it seems like there were some
type of low-level staff at the hospital
who were essentially part of the intake
process and and during the intake
process the individual he died in
custody they did an autopsy and here's
what they found on the autopsy that he
died of as fixation
um the video and I'll get to the video
here in a second so there is video most
likely surveillance camera video maybe
even some body camera but for sure there
is surveillance camera video of what
happened that hasn't been released to
the public however both the pro the
local prosecutor and the attorney for
the individual who died they have talked
about what's on that what's on that
videotape and essentially what they are
saying that's on the videotape is that
all 10 of these individuals seven law
enforcement officers and three people
who work at the hospital
essentially while the while he was in
handcuffs and had leg shackles he
started to resist during this intake
process at the hospital and they got him
down on the ground and essentially the
weight of all 10 of these individuals
were on top of him for 12 minutes and it
was during that that 12 minutes that he
ended up dying um it came out this past
week that there were murder
second-degree murder charges filed not
just against the three Hospital workers
but also against the seven deputies uh
who were involved now anytime so we have
10 people who are charged with
second-degree murder in this case and
that's that's a pretty rare thing um the
prosecutor came out and essentially said
the exact same thing that I just said
they went through the reason of how this
individual died how they died in police
custody now what I want to say about
this is the prosecutor has specifically
said that they are not going to release
the video um they cited that you know
because it's still even though charges
have been filed this is still an ongoing
investigation you know and this is going
to be a huge piece of evidence in the
criminal case and that is the reason
that is cited that they are not going to
release that video the reason why I'm
talking about the video is because one
of the individuals who came out and
detached this case is Ben Crump and as
you know from all the other cases Ben
crumpy always gets involved in these
things and we should be suspicious of
the things that Ben Crum says unless we
can verify it you know normally the best
way to verify what Ben Crump or any
other attorney says is by video evidence
but if you don't have video evidence you
know if there's a chief of police if
there's a Sheriff if there's a a
prosecutor if if in those other
individuals are saying the same thing
that Ben Crump does it doesn't mean that
it's exactly 100 correct but it does
lead a little more Credence to what he
says so
um the fact that there are 10
individuals who are charged with
second-degree murder um it's it's
extremely troubling so we are going to
stay on this um and now listen it's
always possible that the district
attorney changes their mind because of
public pressure
um but the the family of the victim he
has they have seen the video when they
have described it um Ben Crump said that
he described it as uh being something
like uh the the George Floyd case he
said that there was at least one police
officer who had the knee on the
individual's neck now I think we all
know especially since the George Floyd
case and all these other cases it's just
hard for me to wrap my mind around the
idea that you have an individual who is
handcuffed behind their back they have
on leg shackles and you have 10 people
there seven of them law enforcement
officers and three of them are people
who at least in some respect are trained
to deal with combative people because
any type of intake into a mental health
facility a lot of times individuals
aren't Cooperative so you have trained
people who typically deal with people
who aren't Cooperative who are in having
a mental health crisis along with seven
trained Law Enforcement Officers the
idea that all 10 of these people who you
know you would assume that at least in
other situations would be reasonable
individuals that they're all going to
make the bad decision to pile on top of
someone for 12 minutes that doesn't make
a lot of sense so so even though I I
don't believe what Ben Crum says it's
difficult to not believe what the
prosecutor says because they're filing
charges in this video is going to have
to come out so we'll be very interested
to see if the video comes out um like I
said if if there was no prosecutor it
was just Ben Crump saying this I think I
would be extremely skeptical but this
does seem like an absolutely troubling
case and we will stay up on this let's
see if we have any other let's see if we
have any other uh comments here on this
case or any of the other ones uh Bruno
says I see the Capitol Police patch yes
that was sent to us by Officer bird with
the Capitol Police so he sent that to us
specifically so we we put it back there
uh let's see uh located in yours truly
Germany once again the maxo how's it
going
um yeah yeah seagull uh Rock squawk 10
people charge yeah 10 people charge so
I'm gonna talk about that just for a
little bit so you you know this and I
know I've talked about the George Floyd
case before but maybe this is an
incident like that where you know I
think it's reasonable to say that Derek
Chauvin should have should have been
charged okay I'm I'm good with that but
uh to Tao he was the officer in the
George Floyd case who was doing crowd
control literally never even touched
George Floyd he was trying to hold back
a crowd of 12 people or so even if you
say we don't like that he didn't jump in
still there's clearly a difference
between what Derek Chauvin did and what
two Tau did also officer Lane who was on
um who's on George Floyd's feet and
literally couldn't see what Derek
Chauvin was doing even if we say that
okay they didn't act perfectly there's
clearly a difference in the actions of
the police officers they're unseen so my
guess and this is just me guessing is
that when we actually see the video
about this and when some of the
testimony comes out that not all 10
people are going to be equally guilty
that their actions aren't going to be
equally as bad because it would be
difficult I can't imagine a situation
where 10 people are fighting with each
other in order to put their knee on
someone's neck in order to kill him for
12 minutes that just doesn't make sense
so is it possible that you know the
theory of the second degree murder of
you had uh you had a a duty as a deputy
you had a duty as a health care
professional to stop this uh to not
allow this to occur so is it is that
possible in this case yeah that's kind
of what I expect to see in this video is
that not all of the 10 people there are
going to be as culpable however they're
all charged with second-degree murder so
be very interested in seeing some more
of the facts to this case when they come
out uh let's see uh Becky says that's
what I would like to see did it take all
of them to hold the person down so Becky
you wouldn't think so that's an
excellent question you wouldn't think so
here's why it's because he has handcuffs
on and he has leg Shackles On and yes
you can fight and you can do all those
things even if you have leg shackles and
stuff on and you know I would say okay
if someone is on PCP or something like
that but he was in jail he was in jail
custody prior to that so yes of course
you can get drugs in jail but the
chances that he was on street drugs
while he was you know on a mental health
hold in a on a mental health hold inside
of a inside of a jail is not as likely
if they just picked him up off the
street so um the idea that it took 10
people to do this I'm not really sure I
kind of suspect that at least half of
the people there weren't actually
Hands-On at least with the upper body
maybe they were holding down legs or
maybe they were just there and didn't
stop what was going on but again I'll be
really interested it to see what
happened in this case because if you
just read it and listen to Ben Crump it
doesn't make sense and a lot of us would
say this sounds like [ __ ] but again
since 10 people are charged I think
there's probably something to it uh any
other comments on this uh the maxo says
uh let's see um uh okay he's talking
about we have a high profile True Crime
uh banking here at the moment um okay
we'll have to look into that for sure if
you could send us the city in Germany
the maxos we can definitely look into
that for next week Becky says could be
all that adrenaline had kicked in and
caused an extreme overreaction yeah
absolutely that's 100 Could Happen
um yeah that that could have happened
but like I said everyone knows about the
George Floyd case not just George Floyd
but uh Tony Tempa uh in in Texas it was
a very similar case to George Floyd case
where I think it was three or four
police officers who essentially put
their weight on someone's back uh back
neck area in the individual died in
police custody so even if we didn't know
this stuff 20 years ago so I I started
to be a police officer in 2005 yeah I
don't remember if this was part of the
training in 2005 to watch out for this
kind of stuff but it's certainly been
the training since certainly since 2020
there's really no excuse for this again
I'll be interested to see exactly what
happened all right so the next case that
I want to talk about and listen this
comes from Minnesota and and we do have
a couple of cases from the Midwest
um uh Midwest today Minnesota in
particular and this is the case I've
actually been following it for almost a
year because it happened in July of 2020
but I haven't really wanted to come on
and talk about it just because it didn't
have a whole lot of information this is
kind of living on the internet and it's
kind of like a conspiracy theory case
but we finally got the body camera
footage on it so I just wanted to go
over it so this happened in Robbinsdale
Minnesota in July of 22. um so the
individual involved his name is Khalil
Ahmad Azad so I'll call him Mr Azad and
again since July of 22 until this week
the conspiracies around this case have
absolutely been crazy let me tell you
before I get into the facts of the case
let me tell you what some of the
conspiracy theories are so here's what
people are saying there's allegations
against police officers that okay well
again some of the facts of the case so
the individual the police officers tried
to conduct traffic stop uh Mr Azad did
not cooperate he ran from police
officers he fled from the vehicle and
police were in a search trying to find
him they actually never found him um a
couple days later he was found two days
later in fact he was found um in a place
called Crystal Lake somewhere in a
wooded area around the area where he ran
and he was dead um uh uh found in the
lake so the conspiracy theories are that
police officers
um they beat him they killed him they
used a canine to Maul him and they threw
him in the lake and then when someone
called a couple days later they're like
oh this is a this is a surprise to us so
that's what's been going on um that
that's been the conspiracy theories it
kind of have kind of been rumbling in
the Minnesota area and again I talked
about you know Minnesota has been just a
strange place for police officers the
last couple years again because not only
was there the George Floyd case but
there was the Kim Potter case so a lot
is the the the a lot of the community
and the police relations in the state of
Minnesota have been strained the last
couple years and um and the Vikings
sucks so people are always pissed off
about that
um also so you so not only do we have
the body camera footage but also we have
the autopsy so the autopsy came out and
they found that Mr Azad
um he died of an accidental drowning
that's what the autopsy said well now
the family and black lives matter in
Minnesota and now they're saying that
while the autopsy is also part of the
conspiracy and that they actually did a
press conference about this um in late
February I believe February 27th the
family did a press conference basically
saying that they think the autopsy is a
fraud as well um so again now we do have
the body cam footage that's finally been
released so here's what the body cam
footage shows the body cam footage shows
that back on uh July 3rd of 2022 that
police officers attempted a traffic stop
on a vehicle that was driving like [ __ ]
this car was driving I've been real real
fast it was always passing police cars
on the body camera footage body camera
footage shows the vehicle actually
driving on the wrong side of the road it
then shows the vehicle actually go up on
a curb and crash it then shows the
police officers a little while later
essentially coming up on a vehicle after
it had crashed the driver of the vehicle
was no longer there but there were still
two passengers there so police officers
actually did have contact against
on-body camera footage actually did have
contact with two passengers who were
still in the vehicle and said that that
the driver ran well at that point the
police department got multiple different
agencies this is like a wooded area in
Minnesota the police department the
local police department the Robbinsdale
Police Department got multiple uh other
law enforcement agencies in the area to
help them they set up a perimeter they
did a search and they searched for a
couple hours essentially they weren't
able to find him and all the police
officers were there unseen the all-head
body camera footage it's all available
everybody can go and watch it just like
I did so it's it's they were weren't
able to find him they broke down the
perimeter two days later on January July
6th someone called in that there was a
body that was floating in Crystal Lake
which is in the area a lake in this
wooded area and they found out that it
was Mr uh Azad and investigators were
able to determine that he was the driver
of that vehicle and and that's what
happened um the autopsy indicates that
there was no no sign of Foul Play that
he wasn't he wasn't beaten to death he
wasn't mauled by a dog that all of these
conspiracy theories are just a little
silly
um the Robbinsdale Police Department on
their part because every every Police
Department a reasonable Police
Department conducts an internal
investigation because of these
conspiracy theories the Robbinsdale
Police Department actually went the
extra mile and they reached out to the
Minnesota Bureau of Criminal
apprehension which is essentially like
um the one of the the bigger agencies
the bigger units in the state of
Minnesota so it's not attached to the
small Police Department it's essentially
a different police agency with a
different chain chain of command and
they actually reached out them and they
asked them to conduct an independent
review so the Minnesota BCA did conduct
an independent review and found the same
thing that there were no bite marks from
dogs that this individual that Mr Azad
he wasn't beaten that they watched all
the body camera footage and they
basically found that all the conspiracy
theories that people have been saying
for since July are [ __ ]
um that hasn't stopped the family
because again even after all this came
out on February 27th they were still
saying that there was a conspiracy
theory around this but I just wanted to
talk about that case because again this
is one I had been watching since last
summer didn't really want to talk about
it though because like I said I didn't
really have any concrete information in
order to go by so I finally did wanted
to update everyone on that let's see if
anybody has any comments about this
particular case
um Becky says probably just drowned yeah
I mean that's what the autopsy says that
he he tragically just drowned um yeah
seagull also agrees about the about the
Vikings though I'm a Bears fan so any of
the the Central Division teams that uh
that are doing bad I'm happy be with as
long as not the Bears uh let's see
um uh someone found him uh let's see
asean filter says probably injured from
the crash then fell and drowned yeah so
that's the that looks like what has
happened I want to give a special a
welcome to Shaq Hill oatmeal just got in
our got in our our chat he's got the the
best uh best username on all of YouTube
um all right uh let's see uh Daryl Smith
says conspiracy seems to be the truth
nowadays just saying yeah yeah
definitely especially if that conspiracy
um essentially um just backs up what a
narrative already is so again you know
there are legitimate issues that you
know maybe people in Minnesota have with
police officers I mentioned the George
Floyd case the Kim Potter case though
there is nothing nefarious about the Kim
Potter case you know that was just a
mistake a mistake of fact you know she
reached for her handgun instead of her
taser there wasn't any ill intent there
but still you know that was not a good
incident right so um there are people
anti-police activists who have a
narrative and anything that pushes their
narrative that's what they're are going
to do facts don't really matter a whole
lot if you're if your concern is to not
get at the truth but if your main goal
your main purpose is to make the police
officers look bad in order to try to
divide police officers and the citizens
in order to destabilize communities if
that's your goal these are the kind of
conspiracy theories that you're going to
run with and if you know that it's going
to take you know eight months for an
autopsy for body camera footage you can
really incite a lot of nonsense
um in that time before um reasonable
people are able to come out with actual
facts
um okay yeah so let's uh uh Indigo
Montoya Indigo Montoya says smash that
like button thank you so much all right
um so the next case that we're going to
talk about also in the midwest but Ohio
so this happened in Pickaway County Ohio
and you know based on this story and um
you know we we kind of almost changed
the name of the show to scandals and
animals because this is about a zebra
who went crazy so this is in Pickaway
County Ohio this is just a weird call
for service and you can watch all this
the the nine one the not only is the
body camera footage available but also
the uh but also the video of um also the
9-1-1 call is also available and it's
interesting to see uh what the dispatch
was because someone called in a 72 year
old man in Pickaway County Ohio called
police called dispatch and essentially
said that his arm was almost bitten off
by a zebra and if you listen to the
9-1-1 call you can tell that the call
taker is a little taken aback So Not
only would you know a place like Los
Angeles or Chicago or New York this
would be a strange call in a place where
dispatch centers get all kinds of
nonsense and crazy calls all the time
people say the craziest [ __ ] to to 911
call takers but this is in the middle of
nowhere in Ohio so that's why it is a
little a little strange and the 911 call
taker was a little taken aback really
didn't really want the person to repeat
themselves because you know this isn't
the typical call for service so the
individual 72 year old man said that um
he had a zebra that almost bit his arm
off and he says and I I I quote I think
he tore my arm off send the chopper
um I think he did that in Arnold
Schwarzenegger voice um and so police
officers get unseen they're armed with
shotguns um once they get there this
zebra this zebra isn't [ __ ] around
this so there's one male zebra that's
the one who did all the biting and then
there were five or six female zebras
where this one zebra was essentially it
at least what can't get into the mind of
a zebra asking any questions but it
seemed like that at least the at least
the owner was saying that the male zebra
was trying to protect the five or six
female zebra so once police officers got
there and see no they're in their trucks
they have their lights and their sirens
and they're blaring these things in an
effort to try to get the zebra just go
the [ __ ] away just to go somewhere else
um but for whatever reason the zebra
didn't do that and the zebra was
aggressive towards the police officers
and started to walk towards the police
officers try to charge the police
officers were during this time the
individual the 72 year old who almost
had his arm bitten clean off um he tells
the police officers hey if you have to
shoot the zebra go ahead essentially he
gives permission to the police officers
to shoot the zebra though if a zebra is
coming out of police officer I don't
really know what kind of of permission
they would need if their life is in
immediate danger which it seems like it
could have been so um tragically the
police officers did use a shotgun they
use a 12 gauge shotgun and they deal
they did Kill the zebra and um you know
I mean haven't we all seen Tiger King
isn't this a little silly I mean it's
it's and I looked into this uh a little
bit and in Ohio because being a normal
reasonable person you think why does
some guy in Ohio have zebras to me that
seems nuts well for whatever reason in
Ohio zebras are classified under the law
as Horses so you can have as many of
these [ __ ] things as you want to
guess I mean there's as many horses as
you can have that's how many zebras you
can have but the thing is and I don't
I'm not crazy about horses but my wife
always tell me that horses are nice and
they're like big dogs well zebras art
zebras are extremely aggressive that can
be territorial in nature and we saw what
happened um and but listen I do love
animals but it's like outside of like a
farm or a zoo I really set the line at
uh El alpacas and llamas I think that's
as far as as far as most normal people
should go so let's see if we have any
comments about that uh Siegel says evil
Zebra absolutely uh let's see uh let's
see uh
someone asked about any Albuquerque
police shootings soon to be uploaded to
the channel uh let's see if our producer
can put that in if they have any coming
up uh Becky says where the heck did this
zebras come from I don't know Becky
that's such a good question again I had
that I had that exact same question then
when I looked into it I found that you
know that I I guess you can get anything
you want you know it's kind of like in
the big the the Lebowski it's like if
you want to tell I'll get you a [ __ ]
toe don't worry about it so I guess if
you want a zebra you can get a zebra but
again it's it's pretty strange I was
pretty surprised that a random guy in
Ohio had uh like six or seven of these
things running around okay the other
reason we want to call this Channel or
Today Show scandals and animals is
another case out of Minnesota so this is
Cook County Minnesota a little bit
different than Cook County Illinois
which is Chicago but Cook County
Minnesota and this involves moose
antlers so this is a really really
strange case so
um the long story short of it is that
there's two individuals there is a 27
year old named Levi still and a 77 year
old named Lawrence Scully now these two
individuals did their they live pretty
close to each other they're somewhat
neighbors and they've known each other
for four years and they don't really get
along one of the reasons they don't get
along is 77 year old Mr Scully back in
1979 he was convicted of molesting a
six-year-old girl so you know being a
having to be a registered sex offender
you know this gets out in the community
especially a small rural place like Cook
County Minnesota I think there's like
1800 people who live in this little town
so um uh they had lived lived in near
each other and you know the 27 year old
Levi Axtell he didn't like this older
guy who was this convicted sex offender
well what happened was is that
um Mr X tell he has a six-year-old
daughter a couple years ago back in 2018
Mr Axtell actually got a restraining
order against Mr Scully so the the young
father got a restraining order against
the older man who was the convicted sex
offender um for some reason so the
restraining order was initially enforced
it was granted but for some reason I
wasn't able to figure out why it has
been dropped since well for whatever
reason and it's unknown if this is
really happening or if this is just
something that a Mr Axtell is just not
not maybe not thinking clearly or or
what I'm saying is haven't been able to
verify this yet that's the best way for
me to explain this and essentially what
happened is Mr Axtell got in his head
and he thought that Mr Scully was
following his daughter around his
six-year-old daughter that he was
driving to where her daycare was and he
was parking outside and then other
locations and places that the daughter
was that Mr Mr Scully was following her
around and as Mr Axtell said stalking
his six-year-old daughter so what Mr
Axtell did is he drove over to uh the
old he drove over to the old man's house
he entered his house and he beat him
with a shovel he beat him with a shovel
almost to death and then in his words he
grabbed a giant pair of moose antlers
and in his words he smashed him over the
head with it to finish him off so he
killed the guy ended up killing him uh
with moose antler something like a scene
out of Fargo and um so he killed him
with with the killed him with the with
the Moose antlers obviously you know a
neighbor saw him go in there was a call
for service to police police ended up
finding the older guy dead and not long
after that Mr Axtell he walked into the
sheriff's department he walked into the
sheriff's department and he said exactly
and he he told him exactly what happened
and you know basically the way he
explained it to police officers was was
essentially uh you know really just a
plot line to a Coen Brothers movie and
as he explained it to them he said that
he was still so mad and so enraged that
they better handcuff him otherwise he
was going to go crazy in the police
station so the police officers did did
handcuff him Place him under arrest
there weren't any other use of force or
or anything like that but in talking
with him what he told the police
officers because he was honest about
what he did and he was also honest about
why he did it he said that um that you
know he suspected Mr Scully you know
following the girl and parking outside
of her daycare and he was afraid that he
would reoffend and that his daughter
would be a victim um so that was a
really strange case
um out of a Cook County Minnesota
um all right let's see if we have any
any questions about that uh uh Andy Dom
13 is this based uh in New Mexico so we
cover a national crime stories from all
over we we don't um we don't specify in
any one state Andy and um so we cover uh
interesting uh we post interesting body
camera footage and then we cover stories
from all around the country essentially
the most interesting stories
um in in policing uh let's see uh
Shaquille open heels has a shuffle I bet
that hurt I never like shovels
absolutely oh let's see uh Daryl says
execute all pedophiles uh problem solved
RX says are you a cop oh so I have 17
years experience as a police officer I
have a master's degree in criminal
justice and a law degree but most
importantly I find all these topics
really interesting and I like um I like
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you can find my other stuff if you
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different topics uh let's see
um the next case that I want to talk
about so this is going back to 2020.
um so everyone remembers what happened
in 2020 essentially uh 2020
um essentially 2020 uh was the year of
all of the different protests um that
happened all over the country there were
hundreds of protests all around the
country one of the most notorious
protests took place in Seattle and
essentially it was called the Capitol
Hill organized protest or chop I think
at some point they change it to Chas or
it was Chas then it was Choppa anyways
the the the it's called The Chop lawsuit
so that's what I'm going to call it here
Capitol Hill organized protest and if
you remember this is during the again
during the summer of riots and what
happened was for three weeks weeks in
Seattle there was an eight block area
where essentially there was an
autonomous Zone that was set up by by
Maniacs where they wouldn't let police
officers in they wouldn't let medics in
they wouldn't let fire in and they
basically said this is our autonomous
Zone and the government had their own
government they had security officers um
obviously all these people were just
nuts um during during these three weeks
there were
um uh there was vandalism there were
sexual assaults there was open drug use
everywhere and there were two fatal
shootings
um So eventually the police officers uh
by um uh uh chief of police best she
ordered at some point got permission so
Chief best she wanted to shut this thing
down um way before I think her name is
Carmen best she wanted to shut this
thing down way before it actually was
however after the second murder because
it took two murders after the first
murder they were like oh you know what
we still want to feel this thing out
this is the summer of love but so it was
after the second murder that they
decided we need to shut this thing down
this isn't [ __ ] safe for anybody what
should have been obvious right from the
start okay so what happened was is that
police officers came they they cleaned
it up I actually just read a really
interesting story um Carmen best take on
on on shutting this thing down is that
she had expected because you know they
basically said they weren't going
anywhere they were hostile to police
they had weapons so initially Chief best
thought this thing is going to take
eight hours ten hours this could take
multiple days to clear it out it didn't
it took about three hours took about
three hours and um police officers were
able to clear it out and get everybody
out of there and open it back up to
normal reasonable individuals in the
public so
um yeah so it's that's kind of
interesting I just I just read that or
heard an interview with her this week
and um so anyway so you can imagine
during those three weeks um it not only
affected um individuals who maybe live
in the area but also businesses so very
predictably um there were 12 different
businesses and investors who sued the
city of Seattle who basically said hey
we are taxpayers we pay for just basic
police services and you essentially
abandon this area this eight block area
for three weeks you abandoned it and
wouldn't let any police officers in we
we lost all this money from our
businesses and you know our quality of
life all those different things you can
imagine that uh an attorney would put in
a lawsuit did the city of Seattle
actually just settled with um these 12
business owners and investors for 3.6
million dollars um to kind of recoup not
all of the cost of the Lost business and
the damage but at least some of it so um
they did the city of Seattle did just
essentially admit not admit wrongdoing
but but you know if they didn't do
anything wrong they probably wouldn't
have said the lawsuit right so they did
settle that lawsuit for 3.6 million
dollars was interesting one of the
interesting things about that is
included in the 3.6 million dollars is
600 000 was due to penalties because
text messages and other documents were
deleted by the mayor and the police
chief and other police leaders um it's
been alleged that there were 27 000
documents and text messages that were
actually deleted by city by city leaders
including the mayor in reference to this
so essentially you know trying to hide
evidence um that should be publicly
accessible publicly available evidence
that there was going to be used in trial
so again 600 000 of that 3.6 million
um was for basically bad acts and bad
faith by the city leaders of Seattle
trying to cover up
um some things that's why I assume
otherwise why would you delete text
messages
um so yeah so they did they did Sue for
that
um uh there was also another settlement
involved in this case so that second
murder ended up being of a 19 year old
man that second homicide by 19 year old
man so the city actually
um his family actually sued the city for
on a lot of the same basis like hey like
like you police officers the the city of
Seattle individual police us obviously
talking about police leaders who are
essentially politicians most of the time
um but it's what they basically said is
that you know we should have some
reasonable expectation of of some police
presence of especially if you know that
this is a violent area and that a lot of
bad things are happening so the city
actually settled lawsuit um with that
individual who again typically when one
when one private citizen kills another
private citizen
um that's not typically something that
you know we usually can't sue this city
from that right well they did and the
city actually settled for five hundred
thousand dollars in that case so um
besides all of just the the the the all
the other baggage that goes with the
city and negative press and just you
know reasonable people looking at
Seattle and saying why the [ __ ] would I
move there with my family you know right
reasonable people why would I want to be
a police officer there besides all of
that that reasonable narrative um the
city is also down about four million
dollars from all of this stuff so if you
think this is interesting all of the
antifa stuff and the chop stuff um the
person that I go to for all this stuff
is his name is Andy Andy no NGO he wrote
a book called unmasked which talks about
mostly Portland but he does talk about a
lot of the other other protests that
went on um he wrote a book called
unmasked um also Andy Noe on Twitter and
he has a website he has basically
up-to-date stuff on all these protests
really interesting stuff that is uh that
is uh where I get a lot of my
information on that all right let's see
if we have any other questions on this
uh let's see uh let's see Garrett Mason
he must have been uh far easier to be a
politician back in the 70s and 80s when
nothing was recorded digitally you could
just uh share to your shred to your
heart's contents Garrett made said that
as an unbelievably a smart comment thank
you so much yeah it must have been a lot
easier to be a politician than because
um if there were public records you know
you wouldn't have these digital copies
of things where you know really smart
forensic people with computers and
Technology are able to say hey uh yeah
you're saying that there's 11 000
documents uh but based on whatever I see
there were actually 38 000 so give us
the other twenty seven thousand
otherwise we're going to charge you an
extra six hundred thousand dollars
um all right so yeah so that's that's
interesting case kind of been waiting
for that lawsuit to wrap up
um and the last case that I want to talk
about it also has to do so this has to
do with an article that I read so
there's two individuals in the criminal
justice space so because not only do I
think that I love the body count footage
I mean that's why we have this body cam
channel right because we just love the
end of the raw interaction between
citizens and police officers sometimes
citizens are having their best day
sometimes they're having their worst day
but the interactions how police officers
who are really just normal people
throwing into these uh strange situ and
Dynamics situations seeing how they
reacting just watching that it's really
the best reality show so I love all that
stuff but I'm also kind of a kind of a
nerd on a lot a lot of this stuff too
when it comes to like the crime data and
the science behind it one of the an
article I just read by Peter moskows and
he's a he's a professor over at John Jay
University in New York and John Hall
they just wrote an article for Vital
city
um and it was just a really interesting
article called uh fix public policy or
pay a price you can follow my if you go
to my Twitter you can go ahead police
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whole article but they've talked about
the unprecedented crime rise of crime in
2020 and let me just talk about that so
you know there really isn't any any
dispute but you know I just want to make
sure there's no dispute so from 2019 to
2020 there was an unbelievable rise in
crime nationally the homicide rate went
up 30 percent there were 300 and um if
we go to New York
um there were in 2019 New York City he
had 319 murders in 2020 they had 468
murders let's go to Philadelphia in 2019
Philadelphia had
356 murders 2020 that jumped up to 499.
so the murders were went up just again
30 percent nationally but in a lot of
these big cities like Minneapolis
Philadelphia
um they they went up a lot more and so I
hope we don't we don't disagree on crime
rising in 2020 from 2019. so so but that
isn't the most interesting thing because
it gets weird to argue and debate facts
right but the most interesting thing
isn't what happened but why it happened
and there are just a lot of people who
want to blame covid-19 where they they
essentially say
um uh they essentially say that you know
because of covid-19 and the lockdowns
and people were depressed and they had
nothing to do and schools were closed
that's the reason for the Ryman through
the for the rhyme and violence but that
that's not what the data says so really
what I think it is and what the data
suggested is it's that it was the black
lives matter protest it was antifa it
was the rioting it was the violence it
was the Looting it was the vandalism it
was the anti-police sentiment and there
were just a lot of people who just don't
want to admit that the riots and the
vandalism that they did far more harm
than good now what evidence do we have
to point towards that well again covet
happened in 2020 you can't just blame it
on that all of the data shows that the
violent crime rate didn't start to spike
until after the death of George Floyd So
George Floyd died in on May 25th so
almost halfway through the year George
Floyd uh died on May 25th of 2020. so
let's go to New York City just as like
one example of this so in April of 2020
New York City had 56 shootings in July
they had 243 shootings that is an
unbelievable increase in in shootings
and so that's really the only thing that
changed not just the George Floyd
incense but all of the riots and the
vandalism and again the anti-police
sentiment um that that is that is
absolutely what happened
um again criminal criminologists are
going to debate for decades um why this
occurred but there was clearly a rise in
violence and I think it's pretty obvious
as to why that occurred um uh the
evidence so the evidence should be clear
that not only does the mere presence of
police officers in an area uh decrease
crime so not only that but proactive
policing can dramatically reduce crime
and violence in communities and that
really should be the goal all right
that's the last story that I'm gonna
cover but let's see if we have any
comments on any of these cases before we
get out of here for today uh Daryl Smith
says Daniel and staff have a great
weekend you too Daryl I hope you have a
great St Patrick's Day and please be
safe let's see Shaquille oatmeal uh
Birmingham Alabama Memphis Tennessee
have high crime rate of unbelievably
high crime rates a Shakil I think I went
over it I'm kind of Around The Tyree
Nichols when we were talking about The
Tyree Nichols case about just exactly
how violent Memphis is and and you know
if I remember correctly and it's been a
couple weeks but but I remember
correctly is that you know Memphis
Tennessee has about 600 000 people New
York City has like over 8 million people
so you know the the population
difference between Memphis and New York
is just about 14 ton New York is about
14 times larger but when I looked at the
crime rates and the murder rates from
2022 New York City only had about 110
more homicides so it's 14 times bigger
only 110 more homicides yeah Memphis
Tennessee is absolutely
um horribly horribly violent uh Garrett
says uh sounds plausible I get holding
cops accountable but a lot of movements
went so far as to fully defund cops
seems like it would have put cops on
their heels and hesitate which sucks no
it absolutely does gear that that's a
really good point so there were a lot of
Police Department I've talked about
defunding the police before there were a
lot of police departments that did that
did defund the police
um and took a lot of money from their
budgets to put in other places just
really quick one of those the
Departments that we talked about earlier
was Seattle Police so Seattle Police
took 30 percent of its police budget and
did away with it um uh Carmen best she
was the chief at the time when I talked
about her earlier with the chop protest
um and she actually left the police
department over that because she didn't
agree with it she says you know I can't
get up here every single day and you
know support what's going on here and
really be an advocate for the men and
women of of law enforcement here in
Seattle
um if um if this is the kind of stuff
that the city is going to do not support
the police
um so you know again just real quick
what kind of result did that have well
now the city of Seattle again has record
crime a record high violent crime and
there are hundreds of police officers
short and as I've said before Seattle
Police right now if you join them as a
police officer as a lateral police
officer there's a thirty thousand dollar
signing bonus and may listen Maybe
that's popular in the private sector in
the public sector and police work that's
not popular at all when I started I know
it was a long time ago in 2005 there
were no hiring bonuses in in the state
that I worked the highest I ever saw a
signing bonus was around ten thousand
dollars and now I think signing bonuses
are somewhere around five thousand
dollars so the idea of a thirty thousand
dollar signing bonus just to sign on to
be a police officer and you are still
hundreds of officers shorts that should
uh that should explain and really
highlight
um in real life a real example more than
I can say with my words on this show uh
seagull says a defund equals be dumb and
I agree with that 100
um all right so that's going to be our
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