Okay, let's just step outside. >> I'm good. >> What's up? >> Hi. >> Let's step outside, please. >> What do you want, bro? >> Let's step outside. Thank you. All right, do you know why we're here? >> Yes, ma'am, I do. >> All right, what's going on? >> Um What do you ask me? What happened? >> Yes. >> I'm going to Starbucks. >> Can we go somewhere where we can talk Can we split up for a little bit? >> That's okay. >> Real quick. >> Yeah. >> Uh cuz you know why we're here. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> We are going to read you this before we ask you any direct questions, okay? You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand each of these rights I've explained to you? >> Yes, sir. >> Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> Um It sounds like I'm being arrested. Is that right? >> No, no. Because we got to question you about what happened. >> I understand. >> It's two sides to every story. >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, in order for us to talk to you, you have to say whether or not you want to talk to us or not. Do you wish to talk to us? >> I don't know, to be honest with you. I don't I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to come across as if I'm not cooperating by any stretch of the imagination. >> Okay. >> I also >> Put your hands out of your pockets, please. >> Um I also don't want to risk incriminating myself unnecessarily. >> Okay, so >> So, I don't really know what to do. >> It's either yes or no. We can't We can't like tell you what to do. Okay. So, what happened at Starbucks? >> Um I got into a little bit of an altercation with the I talked to the manager there. I don't remember her name, but I ordered my coffee and I'm walking out and I see a big flag flying and you know, I know it's I don't want to it bothered me and and I very >> Hey, pocket, please. >> And I thought I very respectfully talked to the manager and I said, "Listen, I don't hate gay people. I don't hate trans people, but we're in the greatest country on Earth and there's not an American flag to be found and I'm looking at this, you know, transvestite or trans pride flag and it really bothered me. I'm like, "Can you put up an American flag next to it?" And then she starts getting all upset and I'm like, "All right, whatever." So, I didn't press the issue and I say, "Okay." So, I take my drinks and I go, but it still was really bothering me. So, I went back in and I and I ordered a mint majesty tea with two honeys and I said, "Can I have this for Charlie?" And they were very upset and very the guy didn't really even want to make it. They finally I stand there for about 10 minutes and giving all these people their drinks. My drink's nowhere to be found and eventually they finally give it to me literally 10 15 minutes later and no name written on it, no nothing. I'm like, "You guys forgot to write the name on the cup." So, I was kind of upset cuz they were being rude to me and they they knew that I didn't like the flag cuz I very respectfully told them I don't like the flag. I live in America. This is a great country. I love to see an American flag. And what I told them, "Leave the flag out, but put an American flag next to it because we're in America." And I know it's, you know, whatever. It is what it is and so I made the poor decision of when I was leaving, I was upset by the way I was treated by at that point multiple Starbucks employees and I was upset and I was mad and I took the flag off the wall and I put it in the trash can and they called me and told me and said this and said, "Get out of my store." And I didn't say another word. I walked out, got in my car, regretted my decision of cuz I, you know, they all now rather than, you know, they think I'm which, you know, in that instance was true, you know, but I that was not the right thing to do. I understand that. Um And that's that's all that happened. That's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. >> Okay. You have a chance to go. >> So, the issue is when you pull the flag off the wall, you damage the wall. >> Yes, sir. >> Which makes it criminal mischief. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And based off of your statement, so you pulled it off the wall because you were just upset that they didn't have an American flag on the wall? >> No, that's what I was upset by that in the beginning, but I was upset by the way that they treated me after I ordered my my drink. >> Uh-huh. >> They didn't follow their procedure. They And they were rude to me, and it really upset me, and I apologize for the way I reacted. >> Okay. >> We're going to go right over that SUV if you'll go to the front of it. >> Yes, sir. >> Can um >> So, unfortunately, when you Yes, like he told you, when you pulled it off, you damaged their wall. >> I have a good friend that works for the police department. I don't know if you guys I don't know if it will make any difference, but can you call him for me? Jason Urban. He worked there for like 20 Just to tell him that I'm here and What's his name? >> Yeah, like you just said, that's not going to make any difference really at all. >> Yes, sir. >> Because it's based off of the damage. So, they wish to proceed with prosecution, so we have to proceed, okay? Based off the damage that you caused to the wall. >> But, I appreciate you guys being here to enforce the law. >> And I know the vehicle is a work vehicle. Was that person with you with work? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Do you want that vehicle to be the keys given to him? Or >> Um >> Do you want the keys to go with you? >> Did you see the damage on the wall? >> Mhm. >> What happened if you don't mind me asking? Can you explain what the damage was? >> So, when you snatched off the wall, it put like a little like >> The clips that were attached to it. >> Chip onto the wall and it pulled the paint off. >> Okay. >> So, they have They're going to have to repaint the wall, which >> Is damage. >> Is damage, yeah. >> But there's nothing wrong with me throwing the flag away. Nothing unlawful about me throwing the flag away, I should say. >> Uh it is unlawful for you to throw the flag away. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> trying to be rude, but is there any chance you could This is really tight on my wrist. >> Yeah, we'll check them in just a second. >> Do you guys know Jason by chance? >> Uh I've met him. >> He's a funny guy, isn't >> Yeah. >> However, I don't even believe he's working. >> He's retired now? >> No, no, no, today. >> Can I call him? I'm on Siri there. Can I ask Siri to call him on speaker phone? Is that unlawful? I'm not being disrespectful, but >> It's not unlawful, but you're under arrest, so us giving you phone and you call another officer >> If I just do it on speaker though, is that >> nothing to do with this investigation. >> Am I going to get in trouble though >> You're not going to >> I don't want to I don't want to cause trouble. That's I just want to >> I can tell you >> Yes. >> as as a police officer if somebody that I know gets arrested and they try and drop my name for any reason while they're getting arrested, I'm not going to be happy with them. >> Okay. That's fair. >> Uh do you have a medical marijuana card? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Uh >> All right, let's get you into the car. Can you check the cuffs for me? >> Mhm. All right, what's um this one? Is this this one? >> one is hurting bad. >> Okay. I can loosen this up for you. >> When can I tell my wife what's happening? >> Uh when you get to jail, they'll give you phone call. Um also if we have a van at the station, I can have you in the van and they can put the cuffs in front of you. >> What did you say again? I'm sorry. >> I said if we have a van working today, then I can um have you go with the van so that you can have more room and they can put the cuffs in front of you. >> and hot. So can I take my jacket off? I don't mean to be I'm just >> Just have a have a seat. >> getting nervous. I don't mean >> I know. I know. >> You have me backwards here. >> Yeah, I know. >> I'm really nervous back here. I don't mean to be rude, but I'm really going to start sweating. I don't want to have a panic attack. I just >> Yeah, I understand. I understand. So I'm going to see if there's a van >> tightening this thing. I'm sorry. >> I'm going to see if there's a van >> Okay. >> in which I can get your cuffs to be in the front and you can get more room so you're not >> I'm getting really nervous. You have to shut the door too. I just >> Yeah, I am. >> Can they roll the window down? I'm just >> I can put the window down some. >> I'm sorry. I don't mean to be >> No, no, no. You're fine. >> I'm really nervous. >> Look, look, I get it. I'm I'm I'm understand. Have you ever been arrested before? Exactly. So I can understand. I'm pretty sure if I would got arrested, I would be freaking out too. >> I'm sorry. >> It's okay. Uh I don't know if I can get this. >> Can I help you reach in the hole? >> I got it. I'm going to buckle you in. So what I'm going to say is if you put your face near where that opening is, I can actually put some AC on you. Yeah, I'm going to open that up and I can actually put some AC on you. >> nervous. It's okay. >> So you know what? I'm a believer and the Bible says that I don't know. That's kind of I'm sitting in the back of a car in a police car talking about the Bible. Lord have mercy. But the truth is that God can use all things for the good of those that love him. And when he says all things, this is included. So I don't necessarily see how now but I'm confident because of my love for the Lord that he too will use this for my greater good and ultimately his greater good. So I should really got nothing to worry about in the end of the day. You know what I mean? Are you a believer? >> I do believe. >> You do believe? You believe we were created in the image of God and that we didn't spawn from a single-celled organism that evolved from animals? >> So when it when it comes to the animals getting into the world at work >> I understand. >> But I I feel like when it comes to religion it's always what you interpret. >> 4127 4127 affiliation there there are one two >> Everyone can read the Bible, hear the word, and interpret it differently. >> That's true. >> No one's going to have the same perspective on it as others. >> That's true cuz all of the religions are founded off I mean the Abrahamic religions, you know, the Jews, the Muslims their stories are all very similar. So it goes to prove that that they're just interpreted differently. Right? >> That's true. >> Can I ask you something? I just did. Um Sorry. Um If I would have not spoken to you, would I still have been arrested? >> Yes. Yep. >> Do you think I made the right choice by talking to you? >> I feel like either way you would have gotten arrested because one clearly he figured out who you were. >> Right. Right, right, right. >> Starbucks has cameras. >> Right. >> There were plenty of witnesses. >> Right. >> So, either way, you know. >> The odds weren't in my favor. >> Yes. >> So, I'm itching my nose on your cage right now. >> He was charged with criminal mischief and sentenced to a 6-month pre-trial intervention agreement. Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe for more videos like this.