All right. Hey, replay gang gangs. I know y'all going to see this part immediately. I'm waiting for YouTube to do its thing and connect because I'm jumping right into the topic and I I I'll try to leave a time stamp of when this part's done. I got my notes. Okay. Give me just a second. I'm typing and waiting on YouTube. Okay, it has y'all in here. Okay. Okay. So, first let me give you some notes so YouTube knows. I did do my own research, too, and I'm not just playing videos. So, Cheyenne Bryant, right for now known as Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Um, she was a producer on Teen Mom Family Reunion. She came on my personal radar just a little bit with clips from Cam Newton's podcast, Nick Cannon's uh I don't know if she's the one that asked him to name all his kids, but I just know she was on there too and I saw a clip of of her on his podcast or whatever he calls his. Um, okay. So, let me get y'all the background. So, she's been on a few different interviews and including the Breakfast Club where it seemed to pick up the most traction because a lot of people were saying, "I didn't know this was a thing until she went on the Breakfast Club trying to explain herself." Um, but it says that or my notes, sorry. Um, [clears throat] she says she's not currently licensed to practice therapy. That's how she worded it. My question and a lot of other people's question is, "But were you ever licensed? Did she ever earn a doctorate in counseling psychology?" Um, and she she said she went to Argusy University. And I looked up Argusy. It said Argusy University was a system of private for-profit universities in the US that operated from 2001 until its abrupt closure in 2019. At its peak, it offered undergrad and grad programs across psychology, business, education, and health sciences. Argusy held regional accreditation, but some individual programs lacked specialized accreditation. Guess which one one of those programs were. Certain counseling and psychology doctorates were not accredited by the American Psychological Association in specific locations. When Bryant revealed she was not currently licensed, the internet took notice and the backlash began when they couldn't find things. I should say that. Um Brian said she wanted to address this topic clearly and once and she explained she attended Argusy University and completed her doctoral program there. One thing I couldn't find, I was like, "Okay, well, what year did she did she earn that?" And she never lists, from what I can find, she never lists the actual year she did it. Um, everything says that I that I saw was uh pursued or earned at that school, but she doesn't say when she got her stuff. So, and that's important because um we're going to get to her timeline of why she can't suddenly retrieve her records. So critics question why she didn't have an easily searchable dissertation slashpublic academic record which from how I was listening to people that do um have their doctorates and they've done their dissertations. We regular people should be able apparently to go find their dissertation because it's like a published thing. So it is very odd and basically red flaggy to them that they can't find her dissertation. dissitation would be posted I believe separately from the other part like did like the proof of the doctor and stuff like that but it's just doesn't exist. Um Brian responded that the ar that Argusy University closed by the time she went back to retrieve her records. She said the records had been transferred to a third party uh record custodian company and she alleges she contacted them and they told her they only keep records for 2 years. She said she was past her two-year mark. I don't know how far past two years she was because again, she won't name a year. Um, but a record custodian company, I'm pretty sure they have to keep records for way longer than two years. One person on TikTok said um up to 15 years or something like that. And they went to the same third party company she named and they were able to pull their records. They were well past two years when their um when they did their education. Brian emphasized that her academic history remained in her educational record when she contacted financial aid. She says she was able to download um from the student portal. So she still remains or retains documentation from her academic journey including material related to her dissertation. Uh the survey said that don't matter. That's not what they looking for to prove could you be practicing how you've been trying to imply that you have that you're a doctor and stuff or you know you have your doctorate therefore are able to use the title doctor. Um, and then she's she's publicly refused to provide additional proof to critics, saying she does not feel obligated to do so. Some critics argue she built authority and business opportunities specifically around the doctor branding u while avoiding clear credential verification. The criticism intensified because she works in mental health adjacent spaces. All right, I'm almost done with my notes so we can watch these videos. Brian also doubled down on she did not want a license. So, she could have still held her license how she implies it, but she doesn't want a license. And her reasoning, she said she would only need a license if she wanted to build insurance and or diagnose uh individuals. Professionals in that field that have easily proven credentials said no. [laughter] Um, they called her out saying, "Having a license is to ensure you're practicing ethically, giving clients proper care and clients deserving to know and have informed consent if they still even want to be a client or pursue anything under you because you have explicitly gave the impression that you you have your doctorate." Um, and then I don't know if they've ever known she doesn't have a license. Um, some quotes for Bryant. She said, "I have multiple degrees and I'm not going to prove anything to anybody. My obedience is to God, not to people. I don't give a f what your narrative is." She used phrases like not currently licensed, which implies she was licensed at some point. U she also said, "My proof is already within my credentials, my degrees. It's in how effective I've been." So that's that's her stance. And this first video was sent to me by Naturally Be Yourself. She is so funny. I didn't say who I was going to watch, but it is going to be Tore. And then Naturally Be Yourself ended up sending me where Tori had a clash with Brian with Brian. And this is where I was like, "Oh, she's nasty. I don't I don't like her period." Once she talks to Tori like this, I was like, "I don't like her." Um, okay. Miss Lelay says, "That's true." Because a dissertation is about 100 pages long. It's basically a book. Thank you. Okay. Um, so let's watch this first video. And this is horrible impression to me of Dr. of Cheyenne. I'm call her Cheyenne. All right, [laughter] here we go. >> Uh, doc, what do you think about the notion of holding parents criminally responsible for their children's behavior? >> You know, I I said it earlier. I said it's circumstantial. I think that if a parent is neglecting their child of what's needed for them to be um mentally stabled and healthy and in and be in a in a state of mind where they can actually, you know, operate as a citizen who isn't impaired, then I think that um that parent who's providing those resources, you know, should not be um have consequence or discipline. But again, if you're neglecting your child in any manner, I think there should be consequences to a parent no matter what if there's neglect on at at the hands of a child. Um, but you you all know how I feel. I feel gentle parenting makes for a gentle child. I think that there are rules and and their structure and there's a thing called boundaries and boundaries have been proven to create healthy relationships not just between people but for that person within themsel. And if we raise kids with no boundaries and no structure and discipline, they go out into the world and they don't understand that. And they end up being in battles and they end up actually having a lot of issues with law enforcement. they end up being the child that's disruptive in school and class because they don't understand that the world doesn't revolve around them. There's a big world that they are able to participate in, but they cannot be the center of attention to everything. And so I'll end on saying that I what I do agree with is that every child is different and that every child may not necessarily need um the same level of discipline, but every child does need structure and discipline in order for that child to grow up and be an adult who understands that this is the law of the land. This is how life works. And successful people, not just only externally, but internally, what they do carry at the nucleus of who they are is discipline and boundaries. >> If gentle parenting creates gentle children, sign me up. I definitely want to create more gentle adults. Especially men. Hold on. Especially men. >> You are. >> All right. And you see the energy of them right now. Torres is good. He's good. She's good. Oh, you can't see me pointing, but Toré, this person, I'm sorry, I don't know names. And she's good. Very professional. She's about to change the whole traction of this. Like, he didn't even say anything too bad. He was just saying he prefer prefer that. And then this is how she decides to act. She being Cheyenne decides to act off of what Tori was saying. Here you go. >> Hold on, guys. Hold on. That's Hold on, guys. Hold on, guys. That's what we need in the world is more gentle men who understand. They're very gentle and it comes at at an angle that doesn't always work for for for people. >> Let's just stop. Let's just stop. Let's just stop. Let's just stop. Let's just stop and go back cuz I'm wrapping the show and you're interrupting me. >> First of all, >> we we spent a whole meeting on this. >> First of all, first of all, why would you let me wrap the show? I'm ending the show. WHAT IS THE POINT OF INTERRUPTING ME? We're getting out of here. LIKE, WHAT IS THE POINT? What is the point? Lower your voice when you're talking to me. Lower your voice when you're talking to me because you're acting very very gentle, very soft, and very feminine. And this is the problem. Correct. You talk to your wife like that, you >> and this is her language is coming from someone that's supposed to be licensed and should be able to um, you know, take care of patients or clients. I'm say clients and stuff like that and see where they're coming from and honestly try to help them. And she's weaponizing the word gentle and, you know, using it as a a insult. And I was just about to type her favorite word, too. But we'll keep going. >> Don't talk to me like that. I am not your wife. You don't talk to me like that. I'm not your wife. I'm not your wife, Softy. Don't talk to me like that. You talk to your talk to your wife like that. Talk to your wife like that. Do not talk to me like that. That is not THAT IS NOT HOW you prepare. That is not how you professionally approach me. Don't talk to me like >> how do you say talk to me professionally? That's not how you professionally approach me. And then you be the most unprofessional person. And then this is this is this her expression almost doesn't change now. She was smiling. Everything was good. And Cheyenne killed it >> like that. Check >> Frank and Aria. I apologize. >> Check yourself. You don't talk to me like that. Hold on. >> Like that, >> dog. Hold on. >> Shut the up talking to me like that. That's what you do. >> That's what you do. >> You better tap into your gentleness. And real quick, we ready? I' I've been ready. Been ready. >> Ario, Frank, you guys ready? >> Yep. Yeah. You ready to wrap this up? >> Yes, as I was doing. >> And then we'll speak off camera. Here we go. >> We always ask when should a parent be held responsible for their children's behavior, whether it's at school, tantrum in Walmart, whatever. Let's flip the lens. There's a difference between the parent mourning a child lost to violence and the one silently praying because their child pulled the trigger. One gets sympathy, the other gets silence. But both carry a pain the world rarely understands. So tonight, the part we never talk about, ask yourself, not as a spectator, but as a parent of a child who took a life, how should society treat that parent? Should the law hold them accountable or let them live with the weight in silence? Would you deserve compassion or a conviction or a bunch of I told you so? It's a tough one, but that's what we do on Truth Talks. Hit us in the comments and let us know how you feel. That's all we have for tonight. Thank you for the bring the thank you bring the funk family for welcoming the truth tellers to the channel. This is our last week on Roland Martin unfiltered. To continue to see the show and support black media, subscribe to our YouTube channel, truth talks-live where you can catch us every night at 8:00 p.m. EST and at 11 p.m. EST. Support Black Media at Cash Apps Truth Talks Live or on any of the links on your screen. Get your Truth Talks membership today. Click here on the screen and you can choose from three different exciting tiers. black. >> Okay. What I want to say is her demeanor was so bad she caused the executive producer to come up and try to reset the tone. Toré has to fight through that and still do his closing in the way that he, you know, he acts and not let her get to him too much. He chose not to disrespect her back like she did him. And I also came to the conclusion, oh, she must not belong. She doesn't belong in these spaces. that this is how you talk to someone when all they're saying is basically a counterpoint preference. Not even like I'm about to get into you and and cite some references. It was just it was just his preference of saying I'll take gentle parenting if it creates gentle men any day. That's what he said. And she goes off. She's This is not her crowd. I can see why she's on Cam Newton stuff. Don't put in Breakfast Club. Don't put her on other stuff cuz this is how she she is. I was like, "Oh, no. This is my impression." because I only saw the clips of her on the other stuff, but this was my real impression of her. Like um y'all, you said the veil is thinning, Ashley. [clears throat] Exactly. And let me put some respect on her name because they brought up her name. So Ariva Martin, who is a civil rights attorney and she's the host, it says. Okay, so let me go to the next thing. So thank you, Naturally Be Yourself, cuz she's the one that sent me that. I did not see that. Okay, so now we're going to go to what I saw and what I wanted to watch with y'all in the first place. So, this is from Toré's channel. All Toré and his um his wit and his quips. I love it. But here here you go. And I'll I'll try to interrupt sometimes because YouTube expects me to. Okay. >> The art of being a doctor on television. >> I worked with Cheyenne Bryant on a TV show for about 6 months last year. >> I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV. >> And we got into a massive intellectual argument that came up through multiple episodes of the show. And that told me a lot. Basically, I totally saw this coming. >> I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV. >> The first time I talked with her, she told me she had three degrees, and I said, "What schools did she go to?" A lot of people are saying stuff like that. What school did she go to? Did she actually finish a doctorate? Did she actually write a dissertation? All of these simple questions were answered in a convoluted way during a press tour from hell that is damaging her image. One bad answer after another. This is probably the worst press tour of all time. >> I played a doctor uh on television. The problem with playing a doctor on TV and acting like that means you're a real doctor is that people think you're giving them help from a place of deep education and you're not. Maybe you can actually be helpful for real for some people some of the time, but there's lots of therapists who've gone through the academy, the whole academy, and can easily prove that, who are deeply, deeply trained on how to help people who are in complicated situations. >> I am not a real doctor, but I play one on TV, but I can probably be a little helpful. You're dealing with something. and they are licensed so that the world can know. >> Okay, first of all, do y'all remember Toré before he got seasoned in the sense of like you know uh his age and everything to my understanding cuz I I should have went back and looked before I said this was so much like I'm for sure but I believe he's the one when um R. Kelly said uh no he asked R. Kelly, do you like teenage girls? And R. Kelly said define teenage. Do y'all remember that moment? He's done a lot of stuff though. He's very respected in our stuff. He's he's he is credentialed as a journalist. He's a real journalist. >> Oh, you can trust this person. >> I'm surprised by the Cheyenne Bryant controversy because I never thought she had a PhD. Like never. Something about her always gave honorary always gave honorary doctorate at best. So when the press tour from hell took her to the mighty Joe Buddton podcast, the trouble started. She explained that she was not licensed as a therapist anymore. And she did this in a very hotty tone as though we were the dummies and she had to educate us. She made it sound like we had not been actively listening and that was the problem. It was so condescending. She made it seem like being licensed had been holding her back somehow and being unlicensed had freed her to be the best life coach and psychology expert possible. I don't know what a psychology expert is. That led to a wild storm online. Practically all of the black licensed therapists on Tik Tok jumped up to explain that she's talking nonsense. You need lensure. >> Hello, my name is Dr. Rea Martin. I'm a licensed clinical psychologist, professor scientist, and podcast host who specializes in black health and wellbeing. And I want to break down a clip from the Joe Bunn featuring someone who presents herself as Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. >> A license is really only needed so you can bill insurance. >> That is incredibly misleading. Yes, you do need a license to bill insurance, but that is not why lensure exists. Lensure protects you. It means I have completed specific education and supervised clinical hours, passed rigorous exams, and I'm accountable to a regulatory board. >> So, after the Joe Budden podcast, the press tour from hell, took Cheyenne to the Breakfast Club where she made it worse, they asked her basically, "Hey girl, where's your dissertation?" She went into a long roundabout convoluted nonplanation of why she can't get her transcript. That >> nonplanation is now in my vocabulary. Just so y'all know. I was like nonplanation. I like that. Okay, keep going. I'm sorry. >> Sounded a lot like a digital version of the dog ate my homework. >> The conversation about your doctorate because people can't find your dissertation online. >> It's very simple. I went to a school, Argus University, completed an entire program. I went back online to uh get my official transcripts because I was applying to a law school many years ago to be a professor there. And I had to provide my transcripts, right, to to get hired. And I went to contact the school and say, "Hey, I need my transcripts. I need my entire thing." And there was no school. I was like, "Okay, I'm confused. I Google it says this school has been shut down. I said oh well they got to have records. I mean they were accredited when I attended the school. They were accredited when I finished the program. I go and look there is a third party that has the records. Why I contact a third party that third party only holds records for 2 years. I want to restate I have to restate that a good records custodian company that is actually following regulations and there are some standard regulations for keeping records like there's certain timelines. I don't think anyone that's a good one is only holding records for two years. Students need students go a decade before they need their transcripts again and if they're trying to do something new and like she said they required it for her to teach at law school or something she was going to do. I was past my two years. So that means that I had no access to records. And then I contacted uh you sorry I got to stop cuz the text on the screen in case you're not looking for your phone. Argos University posted all records and transcripts are still accessible on our online portals. Any degrees that have been conferred to actual oh actual graduates are also still available for the record. >> No financial aid. you can't make up financial aid. It shows that I paid for a doctoral program alongside my master's program and my undergrad program. And they said, "We can fully refund you your money >> under one circumstance. >> We give you your money back. You don't get credit for not a class, a course, a program you took in this university at the at this this institute. So, do you want us to refund you or do you want us not?" I said no because I didn't want to risk the chance of them saying, "Well, we're going to give you back your money and it wipes out your entire program." Luckily, I had, you know, done this with all of the schools. I had downloaded from the actual student portal my transcripts at that time and I was able to get all just about all of my transcripts, including up to like dissertation. Um, but everything else there's no there's just no holding tape for any of them. >> I just want to say if you aren't able to look at your screen, you missing some good commentary that Tori keeps putting over her face over her interview. >> Our um records, which I think is completely completely effed up just going to kill you online this week. They're going to say she has no records. >> It's not even that there's no records that I don't. the school had a third party that carried the records only for a limit of two years. So, it's not me, it's any student that attended Argy. >> Other people have pointed out that you can still get a transcript from her college that closed right now today. >> I asked Google to get your records from the closed Argo University, you should order transcripts and diplomas online through Parchment. Right. So, now Parchment is the third party company that she's speaking on. How long does Parchment hold on to transcripts from Argoi University? Parchment generally maintains access to digital records for closed institutions like Argoi University, often holding them for decades or indefinitely. >> Today, May the 13th, 2026, I went ahead and I paid to see if I could get my transcript and how long it would take. I received a receipt. Then it says access transcripts. He got [music] access to his transcripts within minutes. Many people have pointed that out. >> As someone that holds the degree from the university that Miss Bryant reports herself to have, I have several questions and several points of clarification that will be made. The first is that the degree that she is speaking to is a doctor of education in counseling psychology from Argusy University. Parchment now holds all of the documentation from every student that attended that university. So she has access to her transcripts indefinitely. When you obtain a doctorate, people like to verify your credentials and verify that you obtained that degree. Moreover, you had to have completed a dissertation. I know because I did it for that degree. There are things that you should know off the top of your head like what the title of your dissertation is. Mine is the Alabama KREP and nonKREP counselor education graduate students readiness to counsel substance use disorder clients. What is yours? Who did you chair? Mine was Dr. David Arena. I had one reader. You should have access to your dissertation even if you don't have the full one, which is odd because they they send you that, too. You should have each chapter broken down because you send it in in chapters. So where is it? So where is it? And why are you unwilling to provide that information? Your clients deserve verification of your credentials. It is a part of our ethical compass and codes to do so. Not just with lensure with any credentials that you use. The ACA 2014 ethical codes and standards require that any credential that you use needs to be backed up and verified and verifiable to all related boards and most especially to the client seeking your services. So the fact that you aren't willing to do that is problematic. It's disrespectful to the profession. It's disrespectful to your purported colleagues and most detrimentally to your clients. Please stop using them until you are willing to verify. >> Thank you. >> Wait before Tori continues. So, first of all, Diamond, did you get your question answered? If you didn't, can you elaborate in case it's a question that either I'm supposed to answer or you asking in the chat for the chat to answer? Um, what was the other thing? Uh, he he put on there, did you catch that shade? Miss Miss Bryant, not Dr. Bryant. Oh, and I think she really really thought she could get away with her explanation, but she doesn't understand. You're not only speaking to a Charlemagne, a DJ Envy, a Joe Buddton, a Cam Newton. The internet's watching you with these professionals in this field. And even if they're not in the exact field, they know the process of what you have to go through when you do when you have a doctorate and how people are supposed to be able to see your dissertation. So that that that's not gonna fly beyond the ones I named. [laughter] >> She's lying about being unable to get her transcripts. Within the long winding story about being unable to get her transcripts, she said she had done it to apply to work at a law school, but she's never even claimed to have a law degree. So how you going to teach at a law school with no law? But the question was not about transcripts, a record of the classes she took. It was about her dissertation, the big paper you write at the end that is the culmination of your academic career. If she had done a dissertation, she would be able to pull it up out of her computer or it would be online already. It's not believable that you wrote a dissertation and now have no copies of it anywhere in the world and no way to access it. If you can't show it, if you can't prove you have a doctorate, if you can't provide any evidence, then maybe you should stop saying you have it. >> Cheyenne Bryant went through all them loops and hoops to not clear up So, let me actually clear up what she was trying to say. What she was trying to say is, I don't have a doctorate degree. There is no dissertation. There is no documentation. I cannot show you a doctorate degree, but I am a a master's level clinician without lensure. That's what she said. She went on there and said, "People just want to hate me. People online just want to hate me." Nobody hates this woman. But we as a community have a right to shift the narrative away from this griffin online social media and put our community back in the hands of professionals. before she continues. Yeah, this diamond, what you just said is what I've mostly heard from people that have had to write a dissertation that they they almost had a mental breakdown. People had to come check on you. Like it's real with that thing. That's not that's not like for play. And also um what was the other thing? Like the other woman said, "Well, who was your chair of your dissertation? Can you just name the person that was reading it?" She's not giving anything in my opinion because she doesn't have anything >> with years of education and years of applicable experience to the thing that they are calling themselves an expert in. And while she does have some knowledge, she does have some education, she does not have the credentials to talk as heavy as she do and or to be providing anybody with any life assistance. You've mastered the art of being a doctor on television. How can you even imagine someone who did all that work and has no receipts? And when someone asks you for receipts, you refuse to. This was the thrust of her next interview on the press tour from hell because Marissa Mitchell in DC did not come to play. >> Why not provide the proof of your degree? Why not? Um well a couple things right um I have multiple degrees and my thing is that my proof isn't something that I have to prove to individuals um my proof is already within my credentials my degrees and also more than just my titles it's in how effective I've been all of my sessions have been live for the most part my sessions with Nick Cannon Cam Newton Shannon Sharp B Simone >> I forgot some ones that again she she has the crowd that wasn't gonna really question her Shannon Sharp B Simone, I'm sorry, B Simone, but I'm sorry. But yeah, that of course they didn't really question her. Like that crowd's probably not the whole crowd, but I'm saying in a in mass to make it get enough notice is not going to question her like that. And where's your tangible proof? Nobody cares. You had live sessions. Oh, okay. Whoopde-doo. Like you had live sessions. Where are your credentials? all that hard work you supposedly did, where's that? >> They have all been for the world to see, right? So, no one knew who Dr. Bryant was prior to seeing all of my sessions that were live. Um, and they deemed it as well as I did before they did it. They can't validate me. I validated myself. They deemed it as my work being effective. I am effective at what I do. I'm educated and I'm successful in my lane. And I'll land on this. I created my own lane. And >> I buy that. She believes that. And I She's not saying it, but she's saying if she's effective in her own lane, she's effective in her grift. She's effective in fooling people to think she's she has more knowledge than she does. You She is very effective in that with a lot of people. I agree. But don't say you're effective in the fact that you actually are practicing professionally what you claim to have your doctorate in. So a lot of times Marissa when people see that you created something that maybe they couldn't admiration turns into envy and you got to be okay and you got to be okay with that as an attack. But I think and I've gotten this question from many viewers and I I owe it to them service to them. >> Absolutely. >> Why not drop doctor from your name if you cannot bring forth that doctoral degree? >> So so I've already co covered this right and we're here obviously to talk about my new book. Um so I've earned the title. I have multiple degrees and I'm not going to prove anything to anybody. And we're gonna leave leave it just as that. Yeah. >> Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, >> baby. Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. >> And that's where And you're you're standing by that. >> Standing by it. Yeah. Because I earned it. Absolutely. >> The real answer to the question, why doesn't she just back down? Why doesn't she say she's not really a doctor? The real answer is this. Cheyenne is all about doubling down. It's central to her personality. She told me she never backs down. She always doubles down. And Stephen A. Smith was one of her broadcasting idols. Isn't that enough said that Stephen A. Smith was someone she looked up to. That's crazy. >> From him she learned never backtrack, only double down no matter what. It sounds tough, but what it means is you have an opinion. You got information that contradicted your opinion or part of it. Information that should make you rethink your opinion or part of it, but you refuse to change your opinion and you're actually increasing your investment in it in spite of the counterveiling information. When Stephen A does it in a sports context, it's like, I picked the Lakers to win this series, but they're down 02, but I'm doubling down. I still believe. When a family and marriage therapist or a psychology expert, whatever that means, says they're doubling down, it means they're rejecting new information, new research, new knowledge. So when you say it looks like you're not a doctor, she says I'm doubling down on the fact that I am a doctor. An actual doctor would respond to the question with evidence. The academy teaches you to be evidence-based and to look for and present evidence. That would be the way to address the question. But she's saying, "No, I don't need to give you evidence because >> my proof isn't something that I have to prove to individuals." >> And that sounds shady. Who refuses to give evidence? People who think giving the evidence would be worse than being attacked for not giving the evidence. It's kind of like Trump with the Epstein files. What he's dealing >> Okay, sorry y'all. I can't discuss that man, so I have to go past that that part. But he he made a point. Go back and the link's in the description, so you can go back and watch that part. Let me let me keep going. >> Aid documents showing she paid for a doctoral program. And if you listen carefully, the word doctoral in this conversation becomes a sticking point because she can't even pronounce the word. She pronounces it doctoral. >> I paid for a doctoral program. One would say that if you can't even pronounce the word, who is going to believe that you actually have completed a doctoral program? What she wants you to believe is that she's a victim of a corrupt institution. Conveniently, not someone who made up whole cloth that she has a degree that she hasn't completed. >> I paid for a >> when I was writing my own notes, one of the questions came up to me. I said, "Now, cuz the school's closed down and she never names a year she attended or finished or whatever. She does not name a year. She's just always outside the timeline that she could have got her records, blah blah blah." Um, I was like, "Did she pull a Toys R Us?" Like when people, you know, they joke like, "I'm I'm going to put on my resume, I was the VP of Toys R Us cuz once it closed down, who's going to prove you different?" Spirit Airlines now and all, you know, all the companies that get shut down, they're like, "Okay, well, I was, you know, chief coordinator, whatever." I feel like she's doing that Toys R Us scheme with her credentials. Let me pick a school that was in because they did they got sued by um some um they got sued by some people in some students in Texas because I think the students in Texas went through the whole program and then come to find out the school wasn't backed by Let me get the phrase right. Hold on. Where's that? Uh it was about It was Oh my gosh. I can't find it. I don't want to make y'all wait. It was Oh my gosh. I'll find it. Come back to that part. But I feel like she just picked because they're already in trouble. They already have a bad name now. So yeah, I just I feel like that's a good lot to pick. >> Doctoral program for a doctoral program. >> Let me tell you my Cheyenne story. For several months last year, we did a fourperson talk show where she and I were the lead voices. I tried to get clips of it, but the third party that holds the records only holds on to old videos for two years. So on the show, we kept coming back to the same intellectual argument. All of this was on the show, on the air. I'm not talking about anything behind the scenes. For me, at the core of this intellectual argument was what y'all have been saying through this press tour from hell. Is she really an academic? Is she really a doctor? See, I'm a parent of two teenagers, and I believe because I have read and researched a lot on the subject, I believe parents should not hit children as punishment. There should be no corporal punishment in the home. I know that's triggering to a lot of people who are not child psychologists, but every major child psychologist today says it is definitely harmful to children. >> People say, "I hit my child to teach them." That's not how the brain works. A child cannot take in new information when they're in survival mode because all that oxygenated blood goes to the muscles to do all that fight orflight mode work. They're not hearing you. They're not processing information. and they're trying to survive the moment. >> Does spanking actually work? >> No. And this is really important for people to know is the data is clear on this and no child development researcher would ever tell you that spanking is a good idea at this point. No child development researcher would ever tell you that spanking is a good idea. >> The first time, >> okay, just wanted to come back and say I found it. They the one in Texas, the university in Texas was not backed by the American Psychological Association. >> I said on the show that there should be no corporal punishment for children. I assume that Cheyenne would of course co-sign that because she's a family and marriage therapist. Or so I thought she was. She claims to have a master's in family and child therapy. Surely someone who's studied this deep in this field would agree with the major child psychologists of today. No, she said, and I quote, "That gentle parenting stuff doesn't work." Wow. I was blown away that a person with a master's in child therapy and family therapy would seriously advocate for corporal punishment. The topic came up repeatedly like every other show. And every time I said corporal punishment is wrong and that's an opinion built on consuming modern child psychology. And every time she would say that gentle parenting stuff doesn't work. I was blown away by her opinion and by how she expressed herself. That gentle parenting stuff doesn't work. is not how an intellectual talks. That's anti-intellectual. You're dismissing and denigrating and looking down on violencefree parenting. Shouldn't you, an advocate for talk therapy of all people be advocating for talking solutions rather than violent solutions? A real academic would not say things like that gentle parenting stuff doesn't work. They might somehow outline a perspective explaining why violence is sometimes acceptable in parenting, which is a laughable concept. But there is a way to express that idea that fits with the way people who come out of the academy tend to talk. That gentle parenting stuff doesn't work. is not how an intellectual would talk. >> Okay. And I'm going to guess because I ain't been there yet, but I'm going to guess that the foundation of how somebody would speak about it that did come from the academy like he's saying is at least you would this is I feel like this is how you're taught to debate in a lot of different types of subjects. And this is I have I have an argumentative essay coming up. And even when I'm not looking at the law side, everybody that just outlines how an argumentative essay goes or debate goes is you respectfully uh well, first you state your your uh position on what you uh agree or disagree with and some resources and then you give like maybe two or three examples and then state a source that backs that up. Then you acknowledge your opponent's counterpoint or sorry your opponent's uh opposite op or opinion or fact to you whatever but you acknowledge it respectfully and you you even kind of say okay I can see how they would think that and then you go back with your rebuttal again and you you stay strong in your position. So I feel like conversationally a lot of that would be in there even if it's not as rigid as that. I would feel like someone is honestly intellectual and honestly had to go through that would respectfully acknowledge someone's view but then go to why you know your resources that you have that maybe proves something else that they're not you know that they didn't bring up or whatever. >> Certainly not one who's in the family and child psychology field. I appreciate all of those who are saying, "Girl, where are your official credentials? That matters." But also, usually we can hear your credentials when you talk. When I talk to my friends, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, Dr. Melissa Harris Perry, Dr. Cornell West, I don't have to ask what school they went to. I can hear the academy tumbling out of their mouths. I can hear it in their perspective and in the way they express themselves. When she talked, I couldn't hear advanced degrees. So now that people are saying, "Hey girl, where did you go to school? Are you actually a doctor?" I'm like, I get it. She plays a doctor on TV. You've mastered the art of being a doctor on television. So, I've earned the title. I have multiple degrees. And I'm not gonna prove anything to anybody. >> Thank you for watching. Please like, subscribe, and comment. All the things. All the things. All >> Yes, please support Toré, one of the last real people that do journalism. [laughter] Please support him. Um, and everything's linked in the description box. I just want to say that in case you came in later. That puppet freaked me out because I had went to uh audio mode because I was listening by the time I got to the end of his video. I did not expect to see that puppet. That puppet. Oh, that gave me the ick for a second. I have one. No, I have Okay, we saw that same doctor on the Tik Tok, but Mark Lamont Hill also spoke to her and there's a clip included in the YouTube account called Cam James, which he really he highlights a lot of grifters and stuff like that. He also is the one that um Rashad, what's that man name? He proved that Rashad didn't have all his uh his degrees. He kept claiming it was a lot. He he does it a lot. He takes a lot of heat sometimes, too. But anyway, he put this clip in here with the woman we saw on TikTok now speaking to Mark Lamont HillN. This kind of comes back to my stance on these kinds of podcasts and shows. >> What was your response to Mark? Uh my significant issue was was the statement that you only um individuals only have keep their licenses or get a license or obtain a license to bill insurance. Um and stating that it was just solely a billing strategy. And uh that is wholeheartedly untrue. Uh and my biggest concern is more so with the fact that when it comes to mental health and well-being and it comes to access to resources, I always want everyone to have informed consent. Right? The way I always describe it to my students is like if there are three options and a doctor only provides you with two options and you choose one of the two, that's not informed consent because you didn't get information on all the options. So whether it is like therapy or whether it is coaching or community um support groups or medication like the most important thing especially when it comes to I specialize in black health and wellbeing, the black community is making sure we're being clear about what that actually is. >> Those of us who know how hard H I was on me. That's Cam James right there. Um that's what hit me the most out of all this when she brought it home to about having informed consent and I'm like that's exactly how Dr. Do how Cheyenne Bryant is a predator now because you do have this inherent trust in people that carry certain titles and and she should also not be offended that people go back to make sure she actually has the credentials behind the title. But she does she gets very attacky like she did on the first video we watched. She doesn't there's no verbal proving like she doesn't actually you know just give something of substance. It's just all I'm just going to keep saying the f word. I'm just keep saying the f word to show you how serious I am and that's like all she has. That's it. So yeah. Um okay. Yeah. And that's that's the last clip I have. So hopefully y'all enjoyed that. Um I learned a lot from taking my little notes and watching this stuff. So yeah, but hopefully y'all enjoyed that. I wasn't all the way a aware of exactly what was going on with her, but it was coming up so much I wanted to look into it. So, all right. But that's it for now. If y'all like body cams, I'll see you tomorrow morning for more uh body cam stuff. But thank y'all for joining me and have a good rest of your afternoon, evening. Oh, hey, hey, Justine. Since I'm about to get out, I know I won't be able to type your name, but hey, Justine. All right. [laughter] Uh let me see. Uriel said, "That's why fitness training you always give a fitness assessment first." She skipped professional. She did. She definitely did. [laughter] All right, y'all. See you later. Bye.