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Okay, so as you saw the title, what did I call it? Bad Boys and Girls in Uniform. Yeah, so these are the Now, this is nothing trigger warning. It's not that kind, but this is just them getting in trouble. I think most of them either lose their job or some kind of consequence happens. So, the thumbnail one is coming next after this one. If you don't want to hear me talking, go ahead and click off. The all the videos are already linked in the description box, so you just go straight there and, you know, have fun. Um, but for the rest of us, we're going to get started. And what we do over here, we already were doing like a charge analysis, but now we're I'm testing this whole what would you do as a juror type poll and stuff like that. So, that's where we're going to start. So, we're going with the shoplifting sergeant first. And so, it says Arizona officer accused of stealing $1,200 in merchandise uh cash from Walmart. And I'm going to play the Fox 10 one cuz it's longer, so it has more body cam uh angles and more more um you can hear more of the cops talking about, you know, they know her and just trying to figure out what's going on. Um and then the Midwest safety version will give us the summary of kind of what happened. All right. So, before we watch the one with the Arizona cop, this is what I need y'all to think about the defense could challenge on her charges and just let me know as we're watching it. If you seeing the body cam, if you're leaning towards guilty, not guilty, or not enough evidence, and [clears throat] it'll be an active poll in the live and uh replay game, you can leave a comment in the comment section. But so the first charge she's going to get felony shoplifting eight counts charged with not found guilty necessarily. But the challenges that the defense could bring up is did the prosecution prove the defendant intended to permanently deprive Walmart of the merchandise? Is there sufficient evidence that she knowingly remove merchandise without paying? Did surveillance footage, receipts, and witness testimony accurately identify the defendant and each alleged theft? And the second charge, fraudulent schemes, four counts. Did the prosecution prove the defendant knowingly participated in a scheme to obtain money or property through false or fraudulent pretenses? Is there sufficient evidence that multiple transactions were connected as part of a single fraudulent scheme? Could the transactions be explained by mistake, misunderstanding, or another lawful explanation? All right, here we go. How's it going? [snorts] >> Walk around here. >> Oh, okay. You got to get just making sure that there I'm just make sure nothing else on. Okay. I'm gonna have you sit back here and then I'm reading. >> Oh, yeah. You're good. You're good. >> So, yeah. So, that's why I was like, let's double check. that she was trying to that she was going to go intercept with somebody at the front to watch her car so she can go back out to her car cuz she can't find her. >> She's definitely in the back. >> Exactly. So, make sure that we get that stuff. >> So, you want you want to do that side and I'll interview her. >> No, no, no. I think we'll be fine. I think uh we'll just double check with Mile and just make sure that he gets us the video of her concealing >> and passing points of sale without talking to an employee. Her thing was like I was just getting stuff for the TV. >> She had a >> got a backpack coat. >> Yeah. She could be stuffing it, zipping up each time in there. So it wasn't like sitting a cart. So >> yeah, no why. Yeah, that's you don't have to read her. >> Because that's what she was trying to tell me is like, oh, I just The only reason I stepped out was to have someone watch my car so I can go. So we just want to make sure. >> What was she doing with the backpack when she tried to step out? >> She said she couldn't find her keys, so she tried to go out to her car to get her to make sure she didn't leave her keys here. So she said that she was going to >> Did we find the keys? >> That's that's another thing, too. We'll search the bag and see if she has her keys or not. But as we pulled in, we see her patrol car. >> Yeah. >> So, she came here, just got off work, came here. >> Okay. >> She says her duty weapon's in her car, which >> I don't know if we need a contact. >> Probably figured that >> we don't want to just leave that here, right? >> Well, I mean, first defense theoretically sight release, but >> that's true. That's true. That's what we're going to do. But >> that's what we're going to do. >> Should we do that? >> I mean, honestly, >> yeah, that's for sure. because that's what we were kind of game planning. I'm like, well, it was 50 bucks and so normally first events, I mean, that's what, >> you know, whether she's a police officer or not, that's what we normally would do. So, >> yeah. Um, >> I was just I'm sure we're going to have to let White River know that we have her here. Yeah, because I was she was trying to tell me that uh that she >> Okay, let's just listen in. [snorts] I put some I can go. Did you see the video at all yet? >> No. Do you want to just >> Yeah, I'm going to go watch. >> Okay. Oh, Miles, I need you. >> No, you're good, brother. >> You're all good. I just need in and out. >> This is a shape situation. >> Yeah. Um I just want to see the video cuz she's telling us something and I want to make sure that what she's trying to tell us doesn't match up. >> Watching her on the video. >> Yeah. when she was in the front end. >> Yeah. >> That that check those cell checks that are closed, but we have product there. So, we leave it all. She went through there. She had her phone out. Then she cuts around the corner, goes over to Clint door, too. Clint talks to her. She turns around. She goes to customer service. She reads the line of customer service for a minute or two. She rolls up, says a couple words to generally the team lead, comes out, heads back to door two, talks to Clint again, circles back around, and then she cuts through up up through the selfch check, turns around, gets in line to selfch check five. >> Okay, >> she's at selfch check five. She buys she scans the tote. Just the tote. Doesn't open anything. Scans the tote, just the tote. gets her receipt, heads out, goes right past the the door host on one head. She's passed everything. She's past the scanner. >> Yeah. >> And that's when we stop her. Hey, what are you doing? >> All right. So, they waited. They saw concealment, saw her only scan the tote, but she had items in the tote. And then they let her go past all points of sale, still giving her the benefit of the doubt or or making sure they understood what they saw. And as y'all heard her excuse is, "Oh, I forgot my keys." What' she say? I couldn't find my keys, so I was going to the car. That's what she That's her story, and she's sticking to it right now. >> Cuz she's she's claiming that she was trying to find someone to watch her cart cuz she didn't know where, but that doesn't explain why she would then try to push out the merchandise. >> So, here's what So, we usually have a lady at the door. She went to a point of sale. I don't know if she was buying something or if she was trying to help a customer who had missed something. >> Okay, >> she passes right next to her. To be fair, she's on her phone. >> Okay. >> But she passes right next to her and she passes the EAS festival. I did I'm going to start saying this right now. I didn't know that she was a cop. >> I thought she was just like a regular regular person. I didn't even see it because her hair was over the edge. >> So when she goes out past those final point of sales, I'm like, "Okay, here we go." >> Our door hosts, unless they're cleaning the vestibial, are never over there. >> So So her story of trying to find someone to watch her cart doesn't track at all >> cuz she scanned the tote. She had several opportunities >> and she paid for the tote. >> She could have left her tote with any of our either of our dogs. She could have left her cart with She could have left her cart with customer service. Even left her cart anywhere before she walked away, too. So, >> but then she buys a tote and then walks out with the stuff in the tote. >> Okay. >> This is the biggest one. And part of it may not even be on camera because depending on which aisle she was in. >> Sure. >> I witnessed her select an item, open up the tote, put it in the tote, and then close it. Okay. It's our behavior. >> Close this. Like to close it. Um >> why would you keep closing it until >> Well, you're going to pick one. Um the biggest thing for me is that she keeps saying that she's going to get two toes. That's why she was putting inside of there. But >> that doesn't make any sense either. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. >> She has two lids. She doesn't have two toes. >> Okay. >> So, I'll go get the for right now. Um see where she >> Yeah. We just want to make sure that we can >> clearly refute what she's trying to tell us. She's going to fight this guy. >> She has to fight this cuz she's she wants to keep her certification. >> So, we're going I'm going in backwards right now, but this is when she's at the point of sale. >> Is that when she purchases the tote? >> Purchase the tote. I'll get that going for you right now. >> I said I watch her scan the tote. >> Yeah. >> Doesn't open anything. >> Okay. >> Pulls the receipt heads right on up past grocery. >> All right. So under our criteria this is um >> she's already staged the tote. >> Yeah. The t toes full of all the stuff you already [snorts] >> face for that [snorts] >> Walmart's card readers. freaking >> I think they intentionally put them on the fritz so you have to get the app >> probably. >> Okay. Grabs a receipt. Why is she grabbing a bag? >> This is confusing to me. She grabs a bag and sticks it in there and then she never does anything with it. >> My man is she planning to like go try to do returns on the merchandise with the bag? Like what is the plan here? Something weird's going on. Okay. >> And from there she proceeds straight to the doors. >> I believe you. >> All right. She's full of it. Yeah, I was thinking so. So, she she picks out a bunch of stuff. She keeps putting one item in the tote, closes the lid. Yep. >> One item until it closes the lid. She went to a door host, went to customer service, and at no point did she leave the cart or attempt to leave the merchandise. >> She has the tote staged in the cart. She goes up to the selfch checkckout, scans the tote, pays for >> one tote, >> just one tote, >> get takes the receipt, grabs an empty Walmart bag, and then proceeds right past everything to come out the doors. That's when they stop her. >> When you watch, >> she was on the phone at one point. >> I just had to go out. I'm like, so she Why would you buy anything? [snorts] >> Sorry about that. >> No, it's okay. Every time she went to a door, she was putting her phone up. I'm pretty sure it's like every single time I meet her. >> So to avoid engagement with associates. >> That happens with push-ups. They're always on their phone. They're always looking >> because it's less likely. And that's why. >> And hey, so is this how the cart was? >> Okay. >> No. So when she was going out, so the tote the tote was like this >> with all the stuff >> inside of it. >> That don't make sense cuz >> So all that stuff was inside of the tote. The only thing the only thing she scanned was the tote. >> Yeah. >> Coming to the realization that your uh coworker is a shoplifter and their officer is is got to be wild. Then she claims she only came here to buy candy for the PE for trick or treat. >> Yeah, trick or treat. The 10 13.7 she's just trying to play on her emotions with the trunk thing. >> She's She's lying. It's good to see you. >> Okay, so the only thing that's hers done with cheer, huh? >> It's good to see you again. I'll tell J say hey. Okay. >> All right. Byebye. >> So it was just like this. So it was like >> when she when she comes up to the selfch checkout, it's like this. >> Okay. >> Well, and it's it's scooted a little bit further. She takes the little scanner. She just reaches in, scans the tote, >> goes and pays for that, and then immediately goes to >> It's like she's never heard her people get calls to Walmart before for shoplifting. Every cop that I keep coming across seems to know Walmart has really good. They have some of the best cameras where they're always law enforcement is always impressed by Walmart's cameras. You got Target with good cameras. Probably a lot of other places, but Target and Walmart are the ones I see. Even the way that Dollar General catches people at this point. Like you know these things. You see people can try. I don't even know. I Okay, I do feel like it does not absolve her. It's just like if someone's on drugs, they commit a crime. blah blah blah. You still committed the crime, but you also should be in rehab. I feel like she's so bad she has to get punished for the crime, but also needs to be in some type of rehab because this makes no sense. Like, you have to have some kind of uh uh you can't control an impulse or something like this is beyond you just shoplifting to shoplift. >> One tote with two lids. >> One tote, two lids, and then the empty bag. I'm thinking she grabbed the bag to try to probably stage it as legitimate if she got stopped. Would be like, "Yes, >> but She made She made no effort to open the tote to scan any of the >> She made an effort to put it all in there and close it. >> They saw her putting one item in and then closing the lid. >> Open it. >> Everything I've seen obviously on this side, but everything I've seen, she's super and I recognize her. I swear I've seen her on camera doing it. >> Okay. >> You see anything else? >> Yeah. >> Would you like her >> Would you like her trespass on top of this too or the first one through? Okay. Okay. >> Oh, well that's what she was trying to tell us. She just got a call. came here buying and then she bought one thing but didn't buy the rest. She might that just doesn't make sense. >> So my thought don't conceal it and then you don't forget that you had in there. My thought we go back to rein her >> just straight up lay it out and say listen the difference between you getting booked into jail today >> and getting set up for shoplifting is you telling the truth >> because I think if she wants to continue to lie about it we also charge her false reporting dude like because I mean what's the reason why lie at this point >> I came up here that's my issue is >> yeah makes all of us look bad >> so I was just telling my thought process is we go back just rein her after seeing the video and hearing their what they've told me and just tell her listen you need to tell me the truth if she's willing to tell us the truth we consider the sight and release option if she wants to stick to her lies I think we take her down and book her like there's no >> we're talking I think we transport her >> even do like a book site >> well maybe >> well he was saying she's truth book that's why I said well it depends because I Would you do something like this? >> I mean, I'm not opposed to doing a cyber priest here if if we start to come to a different dynamic than what it is right now. >> Well, the interview makes a difference. >> I think if she's willing to tell the truth, >> we consider that. >> Yeah, she has her car. >> But I think if she wants to try to dig in her heels and stick with her story, then dude, no, we're not playing. >> Car is here. Call supervisor, you need to pick up our homework. >> So, she was she was going to get a little bit of that professional courtesy, but she going to stick to her lies. So, they going to have to do what they got to do. and I ain't mad at it. >> We'll definitely let them know. Yeah, I'm I'm game for that. >> That's my cheerleing. >> I think it's a good strategy. I really do. >> So, let's do it. It's okay. All right. Cool. So, yeah. No trespass. >> Perfect. Don't turn any keys. She was saying she lost her keys. >> We did. She did say you can look for a bag, too. >> Yeah, I guess. Um she was on her phone with her supervisor and apparently she from what I heard from her side in the conversation she was saying that they she oh silver yeah she checked your pockets I said was okay if you check your backpack I look for the key yeah go ahead check that's what I was going back and forth trying to find my keys >> okay that way >> okay >> verify if that's true or not awesome and then we can always look through it back >> we'll be back with some info for you Miles >> hey y'all how you doing see y'all Yeah, I think it's good. >> So, you look at just real quick at real You said this was a personal bag, right? Wasn't >> all personal. >> I can hold on to that for you. >> Rounds right there. If you need that [laughter] back in there, some rounds and stuff. >> Yeah. >> It didn't look like she had anything concealed, right? Like a >> No, you kind >> I know. The last two days this wind has been I don't know what happened. [clears throat] >> Where's her car over there? >> Uh yeah, it's like row it's two rows over and then kind of midway. Oh, actually you see that black during >> Oh panda. That's hers. We we ran in the plate too and confirmed it's tribal police. Well, it belongs to the white mountain drive >> C10 Pro, dude. >> IR scanner. You know >> what's an IR scanner? >> I don't know. Let me look it up. >> Pretty high tense there. >> Low high sensitivity. Low sensitivity. >> I don't know what that is. No keys though, huh? That's far. >> Oh, there's keys right here. Oh, I thought you had keys. >> No, nobody cares. >> Gotcha. >> It's a camera detector. >> God, dog. I was waiting. I I knew it was something to help her shoplift. I was like, "What's the IR scanner?" [sighs and gasps] She was prepared to do this. I'm going to have to take this back out of the compulsion category because now we're planning. We're planning. Still can get her help, but she's just a criminal. She's a criminal. [laughter] [gasps] Oh my god. Not you buying IR scanners. She is new. She is true to this. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. >> Like for uh like for detecting surveillance cameras. >> Oh, just got her back. What is that thing protecting surveillance cameras like >> or bugs like RF >> frequency stuff? >> Oh yeah, I don't want to lose that [laughter] gas. >> That's true. >> Well, still though, even if she did lose her teeth, it doesn't explain why you're putting stuff in a tote and then >> stealing things. Yeah, there's there's no no reason that looked good to do that. >> Is that the That's the bag that she took. I bet you >> she just took an empty Walmart bag after she paid for the tote and took her receipt. She just takes one single bag. >> She said I couldn't hear her super good, but she said she claimed Oh, she got >> Oh, nice, dude. >> She probably Well, and so Miles said he swear he has seen her before. >> Not with her stuff on, but >> Yeah. Cuz I'd be interested if he goes back and finds anything else. Dude, you know he will. >> Yeah. >> I would I would Yeah. I just lay it up front door. >> Tell you what it looks like. >> You can even you can even use the bag as leverage. Be like, why take one bag? Cuz odds are it's so that she can put the stuff in a bag to make the purchase appear legitimate for. >> And I'd almost I mean, it depends on how you want to do it, but I'd almost be like, look, you do this. You do this. >> Yeah. She's concealing and skip scanning just like the other people that shoplift. Same thing. Just don't understand why she would do this, but same thing. >> Actually, I did the other day. Someone on one of those electric carts. >> All right, get over here. >> Yeah, I was like, "Dude, cops were chasing someone." [laughter] I was like, "Dude, >> yeah." No, I did that. >> That was me. [laughter] You guys [snorts] went over here a lot. >> It does seem that way. Um, >> oh, nice. >> Yeah. Well, even in your bag, you got like this one. Those are for >> So you keep them when you buy five, but you don't recall grabbing one today. >> I mean, here while you're leaving, why would you grab that? We didn't need >> Well, and initially you told me you came here because the trunk none of that stuff you had with you were nothing to candy or nothing like that. >> Well, yeah. So, I'm going to do my stuff when you come through. Well, I'm gonna be straight with you because the other officer went in there, watched the video, all your interactions, everything you did. Doesn't appear that nothing happened. >> Yeah. No, I did. I did ask him to verify keys and stuff like that. He said no keys, no anything like that. And and even at the point that they brought up the fact that every time when you went to a dec what what I was told I'm hear you here from Phoenix you know one day four get out and if I leave if not that's one The video here on both doctors so >> you never had to act. >> But you do agree that you did have personal out there. >> I know. But that lady I thought she walked all the way down. >> Okay. But then at that point still did half. You agree with that? >> Yes. >> Okay. I I I hear what you're saying, but the fact is how you know the point. >> I know. I was just going to go ahead and see if she would take my cart so I could check the park, >> but if it wasn't paid for anyway, even if you just left it there, right? You could have just left it in the middle of the store because you didn't pay for it. >> You're right. >> So, it wouldn't have matter at that point. And then second, the only thing I have heartburn on is to when you said, you know, figure out how to watch a part. Well, why have a watch your heart if you took the time to scan one coat scan? >> Oh, is she trying to bring up somebody was having a heart attack or something? I know she's really quiet cuz it's depending on the body cam and obviously we're not looking at her from the current cop's body cam like that's actually talking to her. So, it's kind of low and it is a little windy out there. But um caption put in heart attack and I heard heart attack. But I don't know if she was using it like I almost had a heart attack or somebody in her family just had a heart attack type excuse. But it's you know with with criminals they usually just bring up somebody's health problems to see if that'll gain them sympathy. >> Who's that? >> So family friends pass out a heart attack. And when were you notified? I'm just just asking. What do we know about >> earlier? Correct. You said earlier. >> Yes. >> So, this was early before you got here. Yeah. It might be on your mind, but you had >> No. No. No. It was. >> No. Exact. Just estimated. >> Like I said, it was in >> Right. >> Right. So, you're saying So, you didn't get to you didn't you weren't aware of that for dying until you got in Walmart? >> Yes. I guess for the first time you said you earlier and then when you came back in then you said happy maybe while you're in this Walmart shop. Okay. Right when she called you, you're gonna leave after that. Even though you get the trunk of treat stuff. >> So she's saying that person died. >> But originally she told me cuz the only reason she get the tree stuff cuz she said she didn't get the trunk of tree stuff because of key. Now she's saying she didn't get cuz of people dead she was going to leave. Well, now and so she told you literally while we're standing here, well, she was going to come out then go back in and get the truck and leave it there for you. >> Oh, but now we're going to do it tomorrow. >> Yeah, because Yeah, cuz that's she changed it twice. I mean, >> yeah. >> So, that's why at the beginning she told me the whole reason why she's going to get her keys and then go there and then pay for the items and get the trunk of tree stuff cuz she get her items first. Then she told me after she got the call that person died. She was going to wait till tomorrow and get them. >> So, Ari keeps changing now. So, >> Oh, so did they have a heart attack and then they died? Because Wow said on my end, I can't really hear her, but she said something about a friend had a heart attack. Now that the friend that had the heart attack also died and that got something to do with affecting her shoplifting because I don't understand why that story needed to be told. Either way, I don't I don't know why we had to mention that for you shoplifting and you shopping for trunk or treat, but you hiding stuff in that tote. And you haven't This is not your first time. >> Do you mind if I >> I'm sorry. What was your name? >> Ward. >> Ward. Yes. >> Okay. >> Sure. So, here's the situation, right? Obviously, you know why we're over here? >> Yes, I do. >> Yep. Yep. What kind of animals do you have at home? >> I have dogs. >> Dogs. How many? >> Uh, eight. >> That's quite a few. What kind? >> Uh, Belgian Malinoa and Yorkies. >> Okay, very good. Um, so why were the items inside of the tote? >> Like I said, I have two separate totes. I was going to do one for the candy and then one for my personal stuff. I was on my way home. >> So why were the items inside of the tote though? >> Just to make room. I wasn't. Like I said, you can >> to make room in a huge Walmart shopping cart. You had room. >> Fit two totes side by side in the cart. They weren't. >> No, that's not No, that's not what he asked. He didn't ask you why'd you put a tote inside a tote. It's why'd you put items inside those totes. Don't Oh, now we're going to play crazy on top of lion. >> Totes in the car. No, I guess I grabbed I thought I had grabbed two, but I grabbed two lids. >> Okay. Okay. Um, and so you put the items in the tote? >> Yes, I did. >> The animal items, things like that. And those are your personal items. >> Yes, those are mine. >> Okay. All right. So, you put those in the tote to keep make room? >> Yes. >> Um, and when were you going to get the candy then? >> Um, I was going to get them probably around the same time. I was going around to make candy usually melts, so I didn't want to put it in my car right away. That doesn't make sense. You were going to be in the grocery store until you finished all your shopping. So, the chocolate the candy's not going to melt in the grocery store. It's already maintaining a temperature when you buy it. It's not melted. That doesn't make sense. You She said she got the huge tote and she was going to put [laughter] Lovable said once she was gonna she was gonna put the trunk or treat candy in there. Okay. To make room. Okay. But you only scan the tote. Then they said it wasn't even candy in there yet or something because she's saying, "Oh, it was going to melt." Well, is it melting on the shelves right now? You're in the same place. This is You would think for someone that stole so many times and and had the wherewithal to get a IR scanner like um the cops said it could be to look for cameras and stuff. You would think you also would have had better answers if you ever got caught. [laughter] Gwen said it made sense to her. if I was just going to get it on my way out >> or come back in. >> Okay, >> I guess that makes sense. >> Which one do you think makes sense? >> Well, like I said, I would normally put the tote side by side so they fit in there so I can lift the tote in there cuz one of them is usually the heaviest. It's the candy. >> So, you went to selfch checkckout, right? >> Yes. >> What did you purchase at the selfch checkout? >> I just got the tote. I was >> Why not the items inside of the tote? >> Completely. I put the items inside of the tote. >> I know. Then you tried to leave the store. >> Yes. >> And you got confronted by asset protection. >> Yeah. I was trying to go to talk to that lady to see if she could hold my card. >> Mhm. >> I was looking for my keys. >> Honest. Looking for my keys. >> I understand that. I understand that. Um I believe that you're looking for your keys, >> right? >> Yes. >> But here's the deal. You did a crime today. >> I know it doesn't look good. >> No, >> you did a crime is a funny phrase. >> It's illegal. It's not that it doesn't look good. It's it's shoplifting. It's That was not my intention. >> I'm not asking you what your intention was. >> I know. I got >> I'm not saying when you got here you planned to steal stuff. >> No, >> I'm not saying that. >> I'm saying something. >> But she did plan to steal though. Got her little technology in the backpack concealing items. >> Happened and along the way all we paid for was a tote and then we tried to leave the store and you're saying to find a lady, but you went to customer service. You went to one of the greeters prior to going and purchasing the tote. At any point, at any point, you could have left your property. Right. Now, you're a certified peace officer, correct? >> Yes. >> If I lost my keys, what are the keys for? >> My car, my unit. >> Yeah. So, if I lost my keys for my unit, I would leave my merchandise and go find it because it's kind of important. Especially, you said your weapon. >> He should not have to talk to her like this in the sense of she deserves him having to say this to let her know how much her story doesn't make sense, but she knows better. So he should not have to say this to her as if she doesn't understand. This is the same logic you'd use if you were looking at a shoplifting criminal. And then on top of that, I'm with you, Sharon. Shut up. Why are you talking? Is that Don't you read people their Miranda rights? Do you Did you I guess they always feel like they can talk themselves out of this because why are you talking [laughter] >> in there? Correct. >> Yes. >> So why go through selfch checkckout, purchase the tote, and then try to leave the store? We just need to be We just need to be on the level. That's it. We're done in We're done playing games. >> It's not to take I wasn't trying to take anything. Honestly, okay. My intention was not to steal anything. >> Okay. That's not what happening at all. >> At what point? >> No, none of it. No, none of it at all. Like I said, >> so you put all these items in the tote one by one. Yes. >> Asset protection watched you do that. They watch you close the lid on the tote after every time you put something in there. >> They've been They've been watching you. I watched the surveillance video. You look like a thief. I'm going to be honest with you. You look like a shoplifter on the video. I watch [laughter] >> to have your colleague tell you like a shoplifter. But her face, I still feel like her face says I can talk myself out of this. >> A lot of shoplifterss on video. You look like a shoplifter. >> Okay, that's not good then. >> It's not. It's not. And it makes it hard for me to believe that you didn't remember things were in the tote when you went to leave the store. Especially when you grab the bag cuz you know what that looks like, right? What does that look like? >> Yeah. >> You grab one bag with a bunch of stuff in the toe you didn't buy. What does it look like? >> Yeah, it looks like I was trying to take something. >> Yeah, it looks like you're going to try to make your purchase appear legitimate with a bag, right? You're going to put some stuff in there. And I don't know at what point your plan was to do that. I don't know. >> No, that No, that wasn't it. >> Yeah. I always get a bag and I use it for my Belgian. >> Stop. Stop it. [laughter] >> He's got the biggest. >> Yeah, right. So, >> I mean, we're dealing probable cause, right? What's probable? Let me ask you. You have this call right now. Take >> pop quiz officer. I love it. Talk to her like the cop she's supposed to be just disgracing the badge. She knows what she did and she knows the answers to these questions. She just thought she could still get away with it. your profession out of it. What's probable? >> Evidence. Whatever you've got. >> I'm not asking you that. I'm asking you what's probable. >> I guess what looks like >> What does it look like? >> Looks like shoplifting. >> It does. >> Sorry, that was not what a day. >> Okay. You still don't know where your keys are, though? No, I that's I'm telling you that's >> okay. All right, sit tight. >> She knew where her keys were cuz if she got if she was able to walk out that store, she needed to quickly get to that car with all the items she was trying to steal. You can't lose your keys and still try to get away with the stuff you're stealing. But that's why this is >> Oh, hello. >> So, she's saying she did she did need to buy a tote. Probably bought a tote with the theme. >> Well, she also shoplifted. >> Yeah, that's right. >> So, the second lid explains she came back with a tote without a lid. So, she came back to get the second lid. >> Okay. >> Let her know none of the >> get the second tote or the second lid. >> Second tote and a lid for the first tote last I'm on a couple of days ago and then she forgot to get the lid. I'm like, I want a tote. >> Well, that doesn't match the story that she's telling us either. >> Yeah. So, she >> she probably bought the tote with their >> lid. So, I think but we gave her we gave her like $500 and a check cuz we do a lot of >> She paid She paid with a card for the tote. >> Uhhuh. >> That she loaded with items that pushed she pushed out of the store. >> Does she have a department card too or >> No, it's just a $500 check that was issued to her and then she gives back the receipt. >> Okay. >> So, um >> So, she did. So, did she deposit that? And then >> I don't know what she did with it. We just know. I just gave you just gave >> and then she's supposed to give the receipt back. >> The receipts come back to us. >> So, she's shoplifting and moving money around. H. Oh, man. Nope. You're done. Well, she should be done. Is she done? I don't know. >> And then she's the problem is this, right? The problem is that she's given us seven different stories about what she was doing and how she was trying to get that accomplished and >> what and asset protection watched her load a tote with personal items one item at a time. Close the lid every time. >> She had ample opportunities to stop and leave her cart with someone. >> Yeah. >> She decided instead to purchase only the tote that was full of the items >> and then attempt to leave the store without stopping to talk to anybody before she was confronted by asset protection. >> Does she have her uni key? >> What's that? her unit key. She said, "Does that >> No, she's saying she still doesn't know where that is. So, I was going to walk that direction toward her unit and just see if I can see the key, but we also haven't dug through her pockets or anything like that. But, >> um, but I mean, she did shoplifting, so that's where we're at today. >> Okay. >> Is at the very least she's getting charged for shoplifting. >> Oh, it's worse than that. Okay. Well, it's shoplifting, but it's it's it's a higher level of it. I got y'all right here. Um, Midwest Safety has the summary at the end. So, I'll let y'all hear that with the charges. >> I mean, I don't understand. Why would you put your career online for something foolish like this? You know what I mean? It's not It's not worth it. Even if you say today wasn't intentional, they've already got three other videos. Why would you do I don't understand? >> In the days that followed, loss prevention completed a full audit of Melissa's past visits, and detectives reviewed the transactions tied to her employee status and the items she claimed were for work. That review uncovered additional concerns, including purchases made with department funds that didn't match what was taken, and items that were never reimbursed. With the repeated thefts, the use of a tote to conceal merchandise, and the financial discrepancies, the case was forwarded for felony review under Arizona's organized retail theft and fraudulent scheme statutes. Investigators ultimately linked her to multiple incidents over several months with roughly $1,200 in alleged thefts and fraudulent refunds, including returns on items that records showed were never purchased. Melissa was cited and released that night. Trespassed from every Walmart and later indicted on multiple counts of felony shoplifting and fraudulent schemes. She pleaded not guilty and her employment status with the department has not been publicly updated since. However, if convicted, she would automatically face descertification in the state of Arizona and never again be allowed to work as a trusted public servant. We reached out to Melissa Ward for comment, but did not receive a response. >> You mean to tell me Melissa didn't want to tell y'all her story? [laughter] Okay, so this one, what is it called? It is a very specific financial term. It is a crime when you misappropriate funds. You start moving funds to different colored money like this was supposed to be for transportation. This was supposed to be for sustenance and all this. What is that called? I'm going to try to find it if y'all don't tell me, but there is a a um a very specific word I'm thinking of. But either way, that's probably where the scheme to defraud part came in was probably her doing that with the the cash from her department. Dang. And she was returning stuff that never existed. Not Not she doing it in all languages. Gwen Gwen said guilty. All ones. No, not offshore. Not laundering. But although it it could be laundering, [clears throat] there's another term. If you know, if I find it, I'll tell y'all what was in my head. You already know. All right, let's look at Well, yeah, we got to look at her possible what they'd have to um what prosecution would have to prove. Let's see here. So, as we know, they were all felony levels uh for the felony shoplifting, eight counts. Embezzlement. Yes, embezzlement. Thank you. That was it. Thank [laughter] you. Okay. Um, prosecution would generally have to prove the defendant knowingly obtained goods from a retail establishment and the defendant intended to deprive the deprive the retailer of the merchandise without paying the purchase price and the conduct met the requirements for felony shoplifting under Arizona law. Possible sentencing. Okay. Well, she could face obviously jail time and everything. Um, next one. Fraudulent schemes. Prosecution would generally must prove the defendant knowingly obtained any benefit and the benefit was obtained through false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, promises, or material omissions and the defendant acted pursuant to a scheme or artifice to defraud. Sheesh. All right. And she was in Arizona in case um y'all didn't catch the location the first time because I I try I really do try to get the location because it does matter. This is the one that was on the thumbnail. So, let's go over what I need y'all to look for as we're looking at this. Um, all right. So, computer fraud is what we're looking for, but I guarantee you y'all are going to tell me there should have been some other category of charges, and I'm going to agree with you. But for computer fraud, we're looking for did the prosecution prove the defendant knowingly and intentionally accessed a protected law enforcement database without authorization? Was each database search outside the scope of the defendant's official duties? Is there sufficient evidence that the defendant per person personally performed each alleged unauthorized search? Let me tell you this cuz it only comes up in text and I don't remember if they said it um where like verbally where you'd hear this, but apparently he put this woman's license plate through a hot search that they call it. And that's where those uh license plate plate readers that now exist in a lot of places will tell you when a car with that license plate passes it. So it can tell you the exact location of the car. The rest I'll let you hear as we watch the body cam. >> Did you pull her over? >> Uh I did. >> Okay. When you pulled her over, did you know her? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did um did you have a legal reason to pull her over? Okay. >> All right. So, the reason I asked you to come in today is um I am a supervisor of a detective unit. I operate down south. Um we I recently have been investigating one of our deputies for some misconduct. And um I'm wondering if you know about this or you know what I'm talking about. >> No, I just want Lamar. >> Yeah. So I know like what happened to me. >> Can you tell me about like your interaction with like how it started or whatever? [clears throat] >> Yeah. So I was on set with Bad Monkey pretty much all February. Um but the very first day which was February 3rd, um they had us shuttled over to the first scene and as soon as I get off the bus it was like immediately it was, "Oh my god, why did nobody tell me we were bringing models to set?" Just being very loud and >> was okay. And I pinpoint them immediately and I'm like, "This is so uncomfortable." Yeah. It's not how I want my first to be like, "This is not what I want it to be." >> And this was right when you got off the bus. >> As soon as I was walking off the show. Yeah. >> So then we our standins go to the where the scene is happening. They're walking us through it. And he comes up to me and he's like, "Hey, I apologize if I made you feel uncomfortable or disrespected you or anything." And I'm like, "Oh, no. You're fine." And he was like, "What's your name?" And I was like, and he was like, "Do you live here in town in Key West? Are you with the LA crew?" And I'm like, "I live in Marathon. Me and my boyfriend lived here a couple of years ago." And then he was like, "Oh, cool. So you live here in Marathon." I'm like, "Yeah." And then um they asked us second team to go in. So then we went in and then as soon as we went back out um and I was by myself again, he came back up to me. He's like, "Hey, do you have like social media or anything?" And I'm like, I noticed the ring on his finger, but then again, I'm like, "Is he a real cop or is he a fake cop?" >> And I'm like, "Yeah, I do." And he's like pulls out his phone. And I'm not mean enough to be like, "Leave me alone." >> Um, so he like pulls out his phone. He's like, "What is it?" I was like, "My name." And I was kind of starting to be standoffish because I could tell what his demeanor was and like how his p like I could tell what he was going after. And so then I'm like and he pulls me up and then he's like, "Oh, you're popular." And I'm like, and he came up to me again and he was like, "Um, I'm going to [clears throat] pull you over." And I'm like, "No, you're not." And he was like, "I'm going to find you. I'm going to pull you over." And he's like flirting, like acting like it's a joke. And I'm like, "No, you're not." I was like, "My boyfriend would not be happy. I wouldn't recommend that. So then on February 20th, the last day that like Bad Monkey and everybody was on set. >> Um, and I was a little past Big Pine and all of a sudden I'm driving and there's like steady traffic, like nothing too bad. And I see this cop on the side here and he cuts off the truck behind me and I'm like, and immediately I'm like, "This is him." like I know it's him and I could see him in my like like rearview mirror and I'm like he better not pull me over and he pulled me over and then he came to my passenger window and I had my window rolled down like >> now I had never heard of this show before so just in case anybody else is just wondering Bad Monkey is a a TV series and it has Vince Vaughn in it as the main person on the thumbnail from what I see. So when you hear that term uh bad monkey, that's what that's where it comes. I'm like, what on what? But that's where it's from. Um yes, he was inappropriate from jump. Jacqueline, you're there in your official capacity to do a job. Whatever your detail was of that set, that's what you were supposed to be doing. He's married [laughter] and now you're you're okay. How can I put this? flirting itself can it it's it's not the flirting that's like uh morally wrong to me but it's not like now you're going to lose your job but once it's like you're at if she's not volunteering her information to you and you're like oh let me get your Instagram and stuff it's too much it's too much you're already in uniform so there's already a power at balance already it's not working anymore then also as women we don't want to reject people in their face because they get violent. It's it's it's the most it's it's dangerous. So, I already know why she gave him her Instagram and she was either going to block him later or something else. But she did try to warn him. I have a boyfriend. He would not be happy. That is another sign that I am not open to this. I'm giving you speed bumps, little bit of a roadblock, and you're still pushing past it because I have to smile at you nicely so you don't do something to punish me for rejecting you. That's not good. But mm- [clears throat] and then obviously he's going to go beyond that point and start using work equipment to do even worse things. Um yeah, that sounds like a that sounds like a threat more than a flirt when it's like I can find you. Especially once I tell you, hey, don't do that. I have a boyfriend. That would you know what I mean? Like before that it already sounds threatening. But it's even worse when you're still thinking about it after I said I'm basically what I'm trying to tell you. I'm not open to this. Oh, you didn't look it up. Okay. [laughter] Oh, you've seen it, Mindy? I did used to like uh Vince Bond's Way of Comedy for a long time. Wedding Crashes. One of my one of my um movies, although couldn't tell you much about it now, but you put uh was it Owen Wilson? Is it Owen Wilson and and Vince Bond together? Funny duo. Uh Ace Moonshot said flirting can be subjective, but once you start asking for personal info outside of legal allowances, it's a big huge no no. Right. I was giving him the gray area of flirting. still not great that you're already married and flirting, but you know that's that's on you, but now you've gotten into this is not good. You should not be talking saying these things to this woman. All right. Um especially when you're in uniform. I'm sorry. I don't know how people in uniform should do it, but you have to know there's a power dynamic with you in your uniform and I may not give you the answer you want. Also, it feels like a pink flag of like if you're willing to search for me now, what if we end up dating and I want to break up with you? I don't want this anymore. Now I got to worry about you searching for me all the time, putting air tags on my car. It's not. Yeah. Too much Law and Order SDU, Omar. It's not good. No. And I I guarantee you they get training on don't do this. This is too close to either sexual harassment or whatever else. like as a as a cop, I feel like they get annual training at minimum because we get sexual assault and harassment training um every year. So, I know these cops have to get it because they have to understand their power dynamic when they're interacting with the public, especially when they're in uniform. Not you telling me the synopsis, Mindy, I love it. Thank you. Um Oh, yeah. Let them know you have a crazy husband with PTSD. That's a good one. That's a good one. I might have to use that. Actually, [laughter] it's creeping into red on some parts, Omar. All right, so we'll keep going. I knew it was you and like, "Did all my information pop up on your screen?" I was like, "How did you know it was me?" He's like, "I told you I'd find you and pull you over." And then he was like, and I was hoping your boyfriend was in the car so I could pull him out and give him a hard time. So when he pulled you over, um, did he >> So just in case y'all don't know, she switched from he said he would look for her to he has now looked for her, he found her, pulled her over in his cop vehicle and told her, "If your boyfriend had have been in the car, I would have given him a hard time." He he >> state the reason for pulling over? No. >> Uh, did he ask for any information? I was lon like a normal child. You know, >> nothing. Um, and he was just uh, so I know what he's talking about, right? It looks like the interaction was approximately four minutes long. So, in that four minutes, he was What was he saying? Like, what was he? >> He was He was just laughing and I'm pretty positive he brought up his dancing again and he said that um, see I told you I'd find you. >> All right. So, um, I'm sure this is kind of sudden. You're working, right? Pull me off the road in here. >> Um, so [clears throat] the reason I'm pulling in today is for a criminal investigation. >> Okay. So, before I go any further at all, I'm going to read your Miranda rights. I know you know them, right? But we also we all know the drill. So, before we ask any questions, you must understand your rights. You have a right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have a right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions. >> I never understand a cop that waves their Miranda rights. They know the downfalls of doing this. >> You have a right to have a lawyer with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before questioning if you wish. Um if you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you do have the right to stop at any time. >> Um do you understand each of these rights? >> Yeah. >> With these rights in mind, do you want to talk to me today? >> Yeah. Okay. So, our criminal investigation is regarding you. >> Okay. >> And some database stuff, right? Do you have an idea what this is about? >> I think so. >> Okay. Well, what do you think this is about? I know I've stopped people did some, you know, investigation and kind of look like on David, but then that's that's it. >> Okay. Who do you look at David for? um [snorts] for warrants. >> Okay. I mean, I'm not talking in in in our law enforcement capacity, right? Um this goes a little bit beyond that. Okay. So, it's my understanding based on what we've seen. Are you aware of somebody name? >> Yes. >> Okay. How How do you know who she is? >> Uh I've talked to her. >> What does that mean? >> Uh a detail. >> At the detail. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Can you like describe what you mean? Like tell me tell me what you mean. >> Okay. Well, it was kind of like a thing where she gave me her name. We were kind of teasing, >> kind of like hitting on her like >> It was kind of like one of those things. >> Flirting. Okay. That's >> You're allowed to flirt, right? >> Yeah. >> Um, so you you met her on a detail. Mhm. >> What detail? >> Uh that monkey. >> Okay. And after you met her, like what happened after that? >> She was like giving me hints of like a like good luck find me whatever was like, you know, I was just saying like I will something like that. I get a renter. >> And do you see how he's framing it? He's framing it as she almost like um uh [sighs and gasps] god what's the I'm trying to think of the adjective but basically like in a flirty way challenged him to look her up versus she was trying to be polite and didn't want to tell him no I'm not giving you my Instagram but it's interesting how he's framing it right now and all I can say is the the concrete part is because they can do the audit on that is they can yeah like a challenge like a dare there. Um they what we know for sure is he did look that woman up and there was no criminal traffic reason to stop her or to put her license plate in their little hot search reader. That's the thing. So even if the conversation went more the way he's saying it versus she's saying it, he still wasn't supposed to use department resources to look this woman up and then pull her over for not nothing to do with a traffic stop. So yeah, but I'm leaning towards she said it the way the conversation actually went because of how far he's gone now. And but even if that's not the case, the fact that he used their equipment to find that girl, she did not she's not giving him ways to like find her. He tried to find her. He found her in real time out on the road driving. That's crazy. >> Him and I and I went from there. >> Okay. Like when you said she was saying good luck finding you. Was that in like text or like >> in in person? >> It was in person. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So that was all in the detail. You're kind of referring going back and forth at any point. Did you guys exchange numbers or anything? >> No. So I just got her in. >> Oh, you got her Insta. Did you hit her up on Insta at all? >> Yeah. >> Okay. What was that exchange like? >> Just a like it was nice to meet you and >> just sliding in your DMs. >> Yeah. again. I'm listen. >> Um, so was she communicating back and everything on his side? >> No. No. I just said one thing and kind of just like went back off because >> I don't know. I was Oh, God. You know, I'm married so >> I get it, man. I get it. Um, >> as far as I'm concerned, >> the most remorse is the wife may find out and also now I've been reported. So, this is inconvenient. Not the fact that you could maybe see you did something wrong. You should not have done. Um, Lovable said, "I think she was the only one who reported him." It sounds like it. It doesn't sound like he already had a history. There was one other one I think we already watched it together where another cop kind of Oh, no. His was way worse. Never mind. I won't say it cuz it was a trigger warning type video. His was worse. Never mind. >> This stays with us right beyond this room. Um, I don't have much control, but >> yeah, >> I have no place to tell anyone about anything else. Right. >> So, back to her. Okay. So, you >> you met her, >> you got her Insta, followed her a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> did you run her David? >> Yes. >> Why did you run her David? >> Um, for some reason I didn't need to, but I I don't know. I I knew right when I did that I was like, "Fuck, what I do?" So, I kind of went [clears throat] back because I said I I was able to find her on uh >> on Insta. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Well, I mean, I I got her Insta that day. >> Yeah. >> Um but I'm just saying like, you know, I was just teasing her. I was like I was I was going to find her, you know, and >> So, you ran her name in David? >> Yeah. I mean like if I did an M&I first. >> Okay. So you ran her M to see if she had M. Did she Did you find any info in Mi? >> Um yeah. >> Yeah. >> Two systems he's willing to admit he used to find her. >> And did you whatever you found in MI to run her in David? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Would you run in David? Like was her name her? >> Yeah. I think it was like her DO. >> Okay. >> That's it. >> And it was just a kind of No. Yeah. >> There was no legal reason to do it. >> Okay. Did you run that name maybe more than once, David? >> Um I I don't know how many times. >> Okay. >> I think it was once. >> No, she wouldn't have asked you if it was only once. That's one of those things when we look at our interrogation videos about how you're asked the question and and you can you outside looking in you can kind of start seeing oh they know more than what they're saying because the fact that she's asking him did you run it more than one time in David and then at first he's like I don't know how many times and he goes to once they already know how many times you've ran it in that system. [laughter] Oh. >> Did anything else happen with this female? Did your involvement any databases? >> Nothing. Nothing else. >> Nothing else. >> Nothing else. >> Okay. Did you pull her over? >> Uh, I did. >> Okay. When was that? >> Um, I don't remember. >> Can't remember. Was it recent? >> I think like last week. >> Okay. >> I don't know. It's like a couple weeks ago. when you pulled her over. You know, >> if he doesn't remember, that means he's pulled over, as y'all have said, probably more than one person. So, he can't keep it straight on his timeline. Also, he could just being be being evasive. But I'm like, how often are you looking up people just to find them to have a hookup? Cuz he's married, so you can't really date. >> Yes. >> Okay. Did um did you have a legal reason to blur? Okay. >> So, on the 19th when you pulled her over, [clears throat] there was no legal reason for the stop. >> Did you call out the stop on the radio? >> I tried, but [clears throat] I had no uh reception. >> Lies. You had reception. You never planned on calling it on the radio because you weren't doing anything legal at that time. >> But I was that point. I was just going to say, "Hi, you know, got you." and we were laughing and then and that's kind of it. >> Okay. >> That's a lie. You don't go through that much trouble to be like, "Hi, I got you." No. Nope. Another lie. >> But you didn't put in the cat or anything. Okay. >> Did you create a hot list with her tag? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is that how you knew she was driving south that day? >> That's why you passed multiple cars. It looks like your camera went on about three times prior to getting behind her. Yeah. >> So, you're pursuing her in an effort to just stop her and say, "Hey, >> that's stupid." >> All right. Did you have any legal reason to put her in the hot list? She's suspected of anything? >> No. >> Of course, he didn't have a legal reason. Okay, I got to read this out loud. Public friendmy said a deputy used a court file to find and date a woman. Her boyfriend got out of jail, found out, beat her, then came to the deputy's court while judge was on the bench and wanted to fight the deputy in court. Then he said the deputy got fired after 22 years on the job. Boyfriend got four years in prison. Deputy has several priors with using department resources to find and date women. Wow. >> Have you guys communicated since that traffic stop? >> Um, no. No, I think that's that was it. I just wanted to do that and I think No, but that's that's the last time. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Have you misused any any databases any other times that I have not brought up? >> No. >> Has there been any other individuals that you like looked up in David or anything? >> No. Um it's it's like for other cases. I know I've used that for the hot list as well, but that's the only one that I >> for both the hot list, David and CIC [clears throat] >> you've used for people with warrants or you're trying to find somebody for legal reason, right? >> Yeah, but she's Yeah, >> but with her it was just to kind of holler at her. >> Yeah, I know. She was like a Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] >> You know what's even crazier? I feel like he's so arrogant that he's reminiscing on how he found her right now. Like, he still doesn't realize it was unwanted attention and stalking at this point. Way past just unwanted flirting. Like, he is reminiscing. Look at his demeanor in his face. And I know he's also possibly uncomfortable because he's sitting here having to answer these questions, but I'm getting a little bit of those were the good times type vibes. >> What do you mean? Well, I mean like I thought she was like a model from like the acting because you know they brought cast on the bed monkey and and uh I was like I want to go say hi and I did and it was just like you're are you a model and I got so like fan she's like no local and we got into this thing and then and she brought her name like oh I was like you should follow like what are you like a insta you know thing >> following and she does she lives a marathon >> and she like instant famous or something okay that's like what she does >> yeah she's like a good model [clears throat] >> okay >> and you guys have never corresponded like otherwise other than you >> um did you run either her vehicle or her driver's license her name through FNCIC at uh >> like your inc car >> I think. So >> that's a third system. I told y'all I felt like it was more than two systems. Now it's a third system. You got the one for the hot list for the license plate. The other one I think was what to find out their basic information and now you got criminal database. Oh man, he for sure he has to be off the force. Do not he cannot be rehired in anywhere else because I know sometimes people a lot of times cops get fired. They just go find another department to work for. No, >> I feel like it was either her car. >> Her car? >> Yeah. Like her tag? >> Yeah. >> What she got from [music] David? >> Uh, I think so. It was either the car or I think >> when did you put the hot list in? >> It was like beginning of February. >> Okay. So, it was like right after you like >> It was the first Yeah, it was February 3rd. Yeah. >> You put her in the OPR? >> I think maybe like a couple days after. I don't I don't remember. But >> like right after you met her. >> Yeah. >> And then Have you not got any hits or she didn't? >> It was just timing. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Did you know that running her in David was illegal? >> Yeah. >> What What was your What was your goal with all this? said, "What?" >> I I don't know. I thought that I I don't know. I think just meeting someone like that, you know, and kind of getting the high from it and, you know, she was leading on and it was just one of those things where >> there goes that little hot phrase now. She was leading on. Also, the um where he said he said she told him to follow her on Instagram and all that stuff. Um I don't believe that's how it was phrased. I I go back to how uh she he asked her and she was too uncomfortable to just not say no and she gave him her Instagram to probably be blocked later again. Um, probably after a while cuz the smart well I won't say the smart ones because I'm not saying you're not smart if you don't do this, but I would say one of the tactics is you wait a while before you block them and not instantly block them. You kind of give them a chance to maybe, I don't know, forget you or just something, you know. Um, but yeah, the way he pulled her over was crazy. They say his his uh camera on his vehicle picked up two other times like while he was trying to get to her to pull her over and then of course I think it picked up or maybe he turned it off right before he got to her. But his his camera kicked on his vehicle twice on that route and you know she was leaning on and it was just one of those things where I don't know she was kind of pushing that All right. So, for us, um, I'm doing a criminal investigation as we already talked about, right? >> So, what I'm going to do is continue to investigate this. Okay. Um once I'm done with my investigation per like we usually do run by the state attorney, you know, at that point we'll decide there may be a warrant for your arrest in the future. There may not be. I have no reason to lie to you. I have no reason to be untruthful with you or anything. If that occurs, I will be in contact with you. Right. >> Okay. >> Um so at this point, you're going to be free to go from the criminal side of things. Okay. Um, and I'll be in touch either way it rolls out. I'm going to let you know, okay? Because I don't want you thinking, "Oh [ __ ] you know, something's happening. Nothing's happening." I will let you know that, okay? >> Okay. >> Do you have any questions for me? >> I just apologize for you guys to do this, you know. >> Okay. >> I mean, it's tough month and it's all a shiny thing and >> Oh god. Oh man. And I I think he does kind of mean that in a literal way. First of all, what tough month did you have? This is not your first rodeo. You going through too many systems doing too many things. Then um he saw a shiny thing. No. No. Check all his stuff. Check back with his arrest, too, because if someone decided not to take him up on their offer or something, I feel like there's some history there. Yeah. Check his check his history. He is too I feel like he has a rough month every month >> and all that and I knew that when I put that I'm like [ __ ] And that's why I just like I stopped right after and nothing else. >> I watched this program. >> I don't think he stopped. I think he was just waiting on his next opportunity. He was in a pause, not a stop. Those all come. >> Um, honestly, I think it's stolen. It's just going to come do the transport and it's just warrant service. Want to talk to your wife before you get in the car? All right. >> Yeah. So, we're we're trying to give them Sorry. Go ahead. Talk to me to get, you know, bail money. >> So, will he be there or take a bottle? Is it actually after >> you have two little kids? >> You can hear a woman crying in the background. Probably his wife, but it is a woman crying in the background. do this. Um, you know, I know he's already contacted. It's my advice attorney, you know, get the state attorney, right? the prosecutor. And um at that at this point kind of it's in their head. It's kind of out of my get numbers out. >> I'm wondering how much does she know to be crying too? Like, does she only know, oh no, he's getting arrested and I think he's being framed for something that I don't know what? Or does she know why he's getting arrested? That's what I want to know. That's a fair question. Ace Moonshot said, "How'd he meet his wife?" That is a the way he's doing this and moving unless they met before he got on the police department. I would say he probably met her the same way and she should have she should have been like now if you going to do this with me. [laughter] But yeah, and I and I know there are probably some police officers out there either gender that have that that didn't do it the right way and they are probably in some long happy relationship. But more times than not, I feel like it turns out really poorly and people are not a willing participant in you using your uniform and your um police technology to find them because it's intimidating. You know, I I I don't think anybody should do it, but I know there are couples that exist and somebody did that and now they're a couple. But I don't think it should be done. No weaponiz. Okay. Yeah, >> but it should be in the system, right? As long as it's in the system, it should be >> should be good just for the service. >> Roman, uh, I'm sorry, man. It is what it is. We're here now. Just remember what I said about this a speed bump. Okay. No, it seems that way right now, but in in the scheme of things, you'll get past this, bro. >> All right. Listen, I wish you the best of luck. Okay. >> All right. Um, what was I going to say? Oh, God. So, before you said what were his charges, there was something else that I saw. I don't Okay. Well, we're about to see his charges and then we'll go over them. But this is where I feel like y'all would have said he should have got charged with other categories. But here's his charges. >> Keep your head up, man. It's three counts of computer fraud, which is a thirdderee felony. And there's a little note at the end that says he was fired the same day of his arrest, I believe. >> Yeah. You can see at the bottom it says fired the same day he was arrested with just the computer fraud. No, I feel like there should be other stuff there. But he got pre-trial diversion, [sighs] but we're just going to look at what would have had been proven for computer fraud. Although I I definitely feel like there should have been more. Okay. Prosecutors would have would generally have to prove that he knowingly, willfully, and without authorization accessed a computer, computer system, computer network, or electronic device. And the access violated Florida law, which obviously he did. That was his only charges. And then it was he got diversion from that, Gwen. And see, he got fired. But with that with what happened, he's probably rehirable somewhere. Right. Ace moonshot. Yep. He's not using it the right way. Yep. They avoided the other one he should have been charged with. All right. So, now we have female cop arrests her senior officer for drunk driving. And let me close this poll out because y'all were unanimous on the the shoplifting one and his on being guilty. And now, okay, so I like this channel. I don't know once this live ends if this channel is gonna let me keep their videos up. They actually have good commentary. So, I do want to play their commentary, but I have like three or four videos from them. And I still cut out another three videos I could have played of them, but I'm like, they going to think I'm just playing their whole channel. But all links are in the description box. I am trying to transform the content as we go over charges and things like that. But yeah, so hopefully they [clears throat] don't get mad at me. This is safety POV. All right. Oh. Oh, we got to do our questions. So, what you're looking for in this [clears throat] one, let's see. So, with DUI with property damage, you're looking for the or the defense could challenge and with these challenges hold up, did the prosecution prove the defendant was driving or actual physical control of the vehicle while under the influence? Did the prosecution prove the defendant normal, I'm sorry, the defendant's normal faculties were impaired by alcohol or another controlled substance or that the defendant had an unlawful blood or breath alcohol level? Did the prosecution prove that he caused the property damage as a result of the alleged DUI? And with reckless driving, did the prosecution prove that he drove with a willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property? Is there sufficient evidence that the defendant's driving rose above ordinary negligence? Did witness testimony, physical evidence, and body cam footage reliably established reckless driving? All right. A crash scene that should have ended with insurance paperwork starts bending in a far more dangerous direction. The driver is not just suspected of being impaired. He is a police corporal being investigated by one of his own officers. And every passing minute makes that impossible to ignore. Watch till the end because I'll break down what the footage does not show and the charges that were ultimately applied after the incident. >> So, uh, >> yeah. Reached out for my lighter, slammed into his ass. >> Cool. >> Yeah, not really. >> Not really. >> Yeah. >> You didn't want to do an information exchange? >> No, he does. I just No, now I found it. >> Okay. Are you okay? >> Oh, yeah. No, I'm good. >> My earb went off. Your car's [ __ ] up. >> No, absolutely. Which I just [ __ ] [ __ ] >> That sucks. You want me to let him know you found the insurance? >> Same [ __ ] thing. >> Well, maybe you should not do that then. >> So, uh, you want me to let him know you found your insurance? See if he wants to do information exchange. >> That's fine. Okay. So, he mentioned you guys had talked about exchanging information, but he kind of had his insurance pulled up. Um, we have a couple options with this. It's really cut and dry. So, if you want to just go through insurance, you can. If you want a full-fledged report, we can do that. However you want to go about it. >> How long will this take? >> Um, it usually takes about 15 to 20 minutes for me to get the driver's exchange done. >> Yeah, go ahead and do it. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Can I get your driver's license and if you have your registration as well? >> Yeah, man. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. >> All right. And you have insurance on the vehicle? >> Yes, sir. I need to see my insurance card. >> It should autopop populate. If it doesn't, I'll come get it from you. Okay. So, a couple things. One, do you mind giving me like a couple feet? One, cuz I like personal space. And two, cuz cigarette smoke really it tears me up a little bit. Just like I said, it'll probably take me about 15 20 minutes and then I'll get that done for you. Okay. Sorry, Birdie. He wants the report. >> You got your driver's license? >> Absolutely. >> I like that she didn't subtly try to discourage him from filing an official report because there's ways that things can be frayed cuz he was like, "Well, how much time would it take?" Right there, you can tell he don't want it to take too much time. So, she could have played up how much time it would take. So, I do respect her for that. And I respect her so far for staying on task because this is her superior. Yeah, senior officer. Yeah. So that's her senior officer. She has to pull over or talk to him about his DUI he's about to get. So those things I did appreciate. >> I'm guessing the car is registered to you. >> Yep. >> Cool. >> You know, I don't need that. Should hypothetically autoop populate. Give me a second because I'm going to call Freester and see if he needs me to do anything special since it's one of us. >> Yep. >> So, >> the driver who caused the collision is not a stranger to local police, but offduty Gainesville Police Corporal. The moment the responding officer confirms the driver is a fellow member of the department, every ordinary decision becomes more delicate. What should have been a simple crash call now carries chain of command pressure, conflict concerns, and the risk that any hesitation will later be judged just as harshly as any arrest. Hey, this crash um birdie so come work it. Okay, I can't remember. It's been a long time since I've worked a crash with one of us in it. So, no, he's not on duty. He's in his POV, but I just didn't want there to be any like conflict of interest type issues. All right, that was it. I just wanted to make sure >> you good, >> huh? >> On his way. >> He's not coming. black pants and a white shoulder [laughter] bag. >> Oh, I got Well, I got to take some of my points back for her because Lovable and Sharon are saying had he not decided to file a report, she wasn't going to do her other part of this official that she needs to do like him being impaired and stuff like that. So, now I got to take some points back. And Sharon says it sounds like she just wanted him to go through insurance but did give him an option. >> Good. >> Walking home, but yep, I'm good. I'm sure Neil would come get you if you need. You don't need EMS. >> No. >> Hey man, your airbag deployed. I got to ask. >> All right. >> One of them days. >> Yep. >> They still in it or no? >> He's too too cool for school right now. But those tears shall come. >> Yeah, he's still in it. >> Is he really? >> So, Birdie, you you giving me some indicators? Oh, >> listen. Listen, >> woman. >> Listen. Valdez is coming out just to I'm not going to lie to you about it. >> She's on her way. >> Yeah, she's on her way. >> Hey, >> cuz I I'm not I'm not really comfortable with this whole thing at all, but I'm not going to lie to you about it. >> Oh, no. I don't mean to put you in that indie. >> Yep. >> So, from now on, you know how it goes. You can't consume anything. Okay. Cuz right now, you're being detained. >> Wait, what? I'm holding on to you because I have a supervisor coming to see if I need to do a full-fledged DUI investigation or not. >> The language may stay informal here, but the meaning is not. The officer is telling her supervisor that his balance, speech, and overall presentation are raising impairment indicators. And from this point on, the scene is no longer just embarrassing. It is becoming a documented investigation. >> So, please don't make my life difficult. >> I would never do that to you. >> Okay? I'm very uncomfortable right now >> and and I apologize for putting you in that position. >> Okay. >> Are you on? >> Yes. >> Yes, I am. And I'm >> He don't apologize. That's why he asked if a camera was on just now. They also have a hand signal that they do to say I'm hot or I'm on. I can't remember the signal, but Midwest Safety or Sergeant No, not Sergeant Curt. I think Midwest safety pointed it out to remain on for integrity. >> You know, you can't smoke right now. >> You can't consume anything. >> Why? >> Cuz if I'm going to do a DUI investigation, it impedes it. So, you can't consume anything. >> And he doesn't care about her career cuz he knows darn well why he can't smoke. Because if he had to pull somebody over for a DUI, he knows the rules to the same thing. That's what's selfish about it, too. you've already tried to say, you know, hey, you know, it's me. Just let me go. Then on top of that, you give the person that has to test you a hard time as if you don't know exactly what needs to happen. I'm not going to do this without a supervisor here. And I know you understand why. >> I mean about this. >> I'm not drunk. I'm [ __ ] pissed and I'm tired. >> Fear aggression issue. >> H >> fear aggression issue. >> You can always train a dog. I'm pretty sure that's people I ran into and they will still be sitting in the car. She wants to do DUI, do it. And I can put you in that spot. I can put her in that spot. >> She made me aware of who it was. >> Well aware. >> Okay, >> fair enough. >> We have any up here? I think it's >> anyone in that spot. >> Three people from his crew that are >> absolutely >> Let me I was going to say something. I'm let him finish his sentence and see if I still need to say it. % right in what she's doing. And are they there because she told them? >> You just saw me walk up. So I really don't know. I could go if she told them that I'm law enforcement. >> You can't consume anything. >> You're killing me. I'm >> trying. >> Come on. >> Do what you got to do. Well, we're going to go to the back side of the car. >> Okay. >> That's where my clipboard is. That's where the most level ground is. There's a line. >> Fair enough. >> Thank you. >> I'm going to check your eyes. >> Please remove glasses if you wear them. Keep your head still and follow the stimulus. It's going to be the blue light at the end of this pen. Do not move your head. Do you understand the instructions? >> All right, we're going to do the walk and turn now. So, if you could, I'm going to have you stand on that white line. Go ahead and face me. Do you understand the instructions? You may begin this. >> Okay, this is a fair question and I I don't want to guess. I'm going tell you what I think, but then y'all can correct me. So, Omar said that's her supervisor, right? I think she's not the same officer that we first saw that encountered him. She called her a different superior cuz she was like, I'm not going to do this test by myself or I'm not going to do this test cuz it wouldn't be right. He she he could definitely intimidate her. So, I think the the superior woman officer has come and she's the one testing him now. So, let me know if y'all got something different, but that's how I'm understanding it. The other one stayed behind. The higher ranking one is now testing him. One, two, three, four, five, 6 7 8 9 6 78 9 10 >> [laughter] >> Oh, he can just stop. I'm surprised he even tried to take the test. I thought if when you're a cop and you know how this goes, you don't even do the extra stuff because it's not going to make a difference. But it's interesting to see these cops still do the field sobriety test. 14 you can stop [ __ ] perfect. >> So at this time I'm asking you to come with me to the station to provide a breath sample. >> So we don't have any 108 BTO's unless Gayton is able to break. I I really would rather not take him up to DOJ and do it in their BTO room. Huh? >> Are you? >> Yeah. >> That makes my life infinitely easier. Yes. If they leave it here, would that be like littering or whatever? >> I'm not worried about it. >> Okay. If it won't snap on and they can't >> It's hard to fit in in the back of it. Correct. I get it. They have people that come clean up these parking lots. If it was in the middle of the road, I'd say don't do that. But >> if it's right here on the side, >> I'm not going to give y'all any given You already given him the police report. So I teach, so it's a different thing for me. >> Yeah. I gave him the driver's exchange that has all the information. It's got the report number. The insurance company will get the actual full. >> Well, it don't matter either way. They got to replace the bumper anyway. Well, it's probably the whole car might be mess up anyway. So, >> um, if you leave it right here, it just won't be a problem. That's all I'm trying to clarify. >> You're good. Thank you. >> I have I'm officer Shhatter Lake. >> Shutter. >> I don't know. I don't know. Officer Cook is our bishop and I wouldn't do it. Okay. So the big plan that I have right in you have a lot of stuff going on. And so with that being said, There's things that we can do to fix this. >> They just feel like [ __ ] everything. >> There goes the tears. I thought he didn't cry until he got to the station, but I hear it now. I'm sorry. >> You're not. >> It's fine. It's okay. But you We already know what the game plan is. >> Your keys are in the bag. >> Don't wipe them off. >> Okay. Okay. the front seat. >> No, >> that's fine. Come around to your driver's side. >> Yeah. >> Listen to me. >> I'm not going to puff you. >> Oh, yes you are. Cuz they're watching. >> No. >> Yes, you are. They're watching. >> Okay. >> Well, we'll tuck you over by my car. >> Yes, he will. >> Yes. Watching. >> Yes. You've been compliant. Can I at least cop you in the front? Can I unopy now? Nope. Does have to come off. Does have to come unlock. Wow. I [snorts] wish [clears throat] >> they put you. You have no idea. Um, as the narrator is going to say, that's the only way I knew this. I I I thought it was a hard number level. uh unless you were in a certain profession and stuff like that. But basically, either on this one or another one, same channel though, he says that, and I think it's the state of Florida, they don't have to have you blow over 0.08. They just have to prove through observation that you were impaired. So, even if there's no breathalyzer, it doesn't get you out of a DUI in Florida. um if they can show other types of impairment, which him taking that field sobriety test is is a done deal from that. Um because she didn't say out loud, I smell alcohol. He didn't sound too slurry to me cuz you know, we've heard people slur their words really bad. Um so I was just thinking what what I'm saying that to say I know that adults are on the road and they've had actually a drink. Not the lie of I only had two drinks, but they actually maybe had a drink while they were out and they drive. And I was going to say that I think it was when I was um in Louisiana one time and I said I'll never do this again. I did have a drink that would keep me below 0.08. I I knew that. But I didn't even like how it felt to drive with one drink in my system. And I was like, "This would be my time that somebody would pull me over cuz this is no no." And I don't I don't I you know, but still, you're inebriated, so you don't know for sure. But I was like, I never thought I was ever getting out my lane. I my my response time felt normal. But I think that's the thing. Even when people are drunk, they always think everything feels normal. So I told myself, just even with one drink, just get a Uber or something because I don't I don't know that buzz is something else. I don't know. And I might just be a lightweight, but even one drink is very uh I don't know. It can be dangerous sometimes. Just the fact that you'll get pulled over if not actually blowing above a 0.08. So, just be careful. >> Can't your [ __ ] battery work. >> I'm going to be off the air in a minute anyway. >> I can't do FS. Listen, if you blow and you're good, >> then we're golden. >> Yeah, >> you know, I can't do that. >> I can't demonstrate that. And see, that's the thing. This is not that first time this man has driven that drunk. It's the first time he's gotten caught. And that always gets me like this this was a pattern and you were okay with it until you were caught and held accountable because maybe some of his other buddies as y'all have said or as Ace Moonshot put in there that on during the Karen retrial come to find out they're telling their buddies don't go down this road cuz they're doing maybe DUI checks or somebody's going to be patrolling this area or whatever. So he might have already gotten caught before but those were the ones that let him go and he just kept doing it. But you also have nestagmas. >> Oh, I know. Well, I'm not saying I haven't been. [clears throat] >> Yeah. >> I'm not going to I mean, you do what you got to do. >> Yeah. It's a lot different when they ask you in an interview saying, "Hey, you know, what would you do if this happened to [laughter] >> I know you're kidding. I'm so sorry. All of this ain't bad. >> You're going to make me cry. That's a good point, Sharon. He never asked if the people he hit was okay. I Yeah, that's just some basic things I think you should ask. And he didn't even ask. He was out there smoking his little s uh cigarette and just going about his business hoping she didn't call another person over and just everything was about about him and trying to get out of this. I didn't even think about him cuz the she said your airbag deployed. So that means he hit them pretty good. So I started observation period at 03. What makes this case linger is not just the arrest itself, but everything that came after the cameras stopped rolling. Once the roadside tension faded and the paperwork moved into the system, later reports began filling in the parts the footage could only hint at. According to reports, suspect was charged with driving under the influence with property damage and also reported that he was cited for reckless driving in connection with the crash. That matters because it shows the case was never treated as a vague lapse in judgment or an internal embarrassment alone. On paper, it became what the public would expect it to become, a criminal allegation tied to a crash, property damage, and visible signs of impairment. Later, instead of taking the case all the way through a contested trial, suspect entered a no contest plea to the DUI with property damage charge. In other words, the case did not vanish into departmental silence. It ended with a formal court outcome, and the fallout did not stop in criminal court. Reports indicate he was later sentenced to fines in court costs, community service, DUI related classes, substance abuse requirements, and a driver's license suspension. That tells you something important about the bigger story here. This was not just a bad moment preserved in body cam footage. It turned into the kind of case that follows a person across multiple systems at once criminal court, civil liability, departmental discipline, and eventually state level certification review. There was also some reports which says a lot about who else carried the consequences of that night. Court records show that Tevin Gardner and Christopher Bradshaw, the occupants of the other vehicle, later filed an autonegligence lawsuit against suspect. Public docu moved through settlement activity and was ultimately closed after a dismissal with prejudice, which strongly indicates the civil dispute was resolved rather than simply abandoned. That matters because the footage itself can make the crash feel self-contained, almost as if the emotional center is only the officer and the suspect. But the later record tells us that there were other people in the story. Two people whose night was interrupted whose vehicle was damaged and who later claimed injuries serious enough to take into civil court. Then came the professional reckoning. Early reporting said suspect was stripped of his police powers and placed on administrative duty after the arrest. But even that was not the end of it. The Florida Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission later took action against his certification. According to the commission records, the final discipline included a 5-day retroactive suspension, a 90-day prospective suspension, one year of probation, and a requirement that he complete commission approved substance abuse counseling before the probationary period ended. That is the part of the story that makes the case feel larger than one crash and one charge. Florida's certification body was not just looking at a traffic offense. It was looking at whether a law enforcement officer had failed the standards expected of someone trusted to enforce the law in the first place. In the end, the footage captured the beginning of the story. The later reports explained the cost of it. A corporal in his own department went from crash scene to criminal defendant to a sworn officer facing state discipline and lasting damage to his professional standing. What remains is a much simpler question. When the law finally turns inward and lands on one of its own, how much accountability is enough to restore trust? If you want more cases like this broken down beyond the footage itself with the court outcome. >> All right. So again, that channel cuz we're going to hear him his voice again is Safety POV. Definitely subscribe uh support them. They are a smaller channel. So please support them. He's obviously doing his uh research on this. I really appreciate the commentary he added. That was a great followup. This is one of the times I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yep." That I'm I see that they are uh holding him accountable, probably making him an example. I don't know. But it was way more than I usually hear when some when a cop gets pulled over for a DUI and stuff like that. But I'm glad that they made the substance abuse counseling mandatory. I think that should be done for all DUI, DWI stops. So, I I I like stuff like that because I do also think about the recovery, the rehab, not just the criminal punishment part because if you don't address the core issue, this is just going to be repetition over and over and over. He did have a lot to lose. Wow. He did. Okay. Now, we have a lot of drunk cops. Now, let me see. So, our next one, what we're looking for, let me close this poll out, too. Okay. And y'all basically again unanimous on guilty for him. The next one we have is a drunk police deputy thinks she's above the law. So before we watch, if the defense challenged these things, would they hold up for you as a juror in court? So the first or the first and only charge is uh D yeah DUI. Did the prosecution prove she was driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle? Did the prosecution prove she her normal faculties were impaired by alcohol or another controlled substance or that she had an unlawful blood or breath alcohol level? Could her appearance, speech, balance, or performance on field sobriety exercises have been caused by something other than impairment? All right. In Petersburg, Florida, a routine DUI stop turns surreal when the driver calmly reminds officers she's a Penllis County deputy. What starts as a speeding stop becomes a tense standoff over impairment, authority, and professional courtesy. But how far will she push it before everything changes? Watch till the end because I'll break down what the footage doesn't show. >> Okay. Registration proof insurance. >> I'm a pro county deputy. >> Okay. and my driver's license. >> Huh? >> I'm a Pills County deputy. >> Okay. Do you have your license registration? >> No. >> You don't? Do you have your ID on you? >> Um. >> Uhhuh. >> Do you have any weapons on you? >> No. >> Okay. >> Well, I'm a deputy, but >> Well, that's why I'm asking. Do you have any weapons on you? >> I live right there. >> Okay. I would normally, but >> Okay. Do you have your some kind of ID or anything on you? >> My ID is not here, but I'm up in county. >> Okay. Do you have some kind of ID on you? >> I was just driving that way. I dropped my friend off and then I went this way because my I live right there. >> I get that. But I pulled you over cuz you were flying past everybody and you were >> No, I was just driving. >> Okay. So when I was at this point you were going like 56 and a 40. >> You were flying. >> No, I was not flying. I was just >> Do you have your registration with your name on it or anything? >> Well, this car is not mine. So >> Okay. Do you have anything with your name on it? >> Is that your driver's license right there? >> It's my driver's license and my um >> Can I see your driver's license? Sure. >> Do you have your uh work ID? No, it's at home in my cruiser. >> Okay. Where do you live at? >> I live at >> Okay. So, not the address in your license. >> No. >> Okay. >> Whose car is this? >> My father's. >> Give me a second. Where? >> Hi. >> So, sorry. >> You're fine. >> I put the wrong one. How are you? >> Oh my gosh. I just realized cuz I did skim this one. Um, but I was like, "Did she have a passenger?" But she's in she's on the right side of the car. So, it was her the whole time. So, I'm like, "Well, is I'm like, is she the deputy or is she the Yeah, she the deputy or is she the passenger?" Cuz I saw her obviously on the thumbnail it showed her getting handcuffed. I'm like, "Well, she's did she switch with someone and then had them drive?" But, nope. Steering wheels on the right hand side. Straightens out any questions I had about that part. Then she asked for her ID. She said she has it. Child, I don't even remember. >> How are you? >> Oh, but I did want to say yes with uh Omar and Oh, yeah. Omar said there they go with the I live right there. Right. It doesn't matter that you're so close to home. It's that you were on this road impaired, endangering yourself and others. Didn't care. I don't care if you just got caught right by your house. Oh well, like that doesn't matter. >> Good. Yeah. What's going on tonight? Um, I don't I have no idea. I'm trying to get home. >> Oh, okay. Do you know why she pulled you over? >> Uh, she said because I'm driving too fast. >> Oh, okay. >> But I'm a Penel County deputy and I'm just trying to get to my house, which is right there. >> Gotcha. I don't know what she's doing uh right now, but I'm just going to stand by with you until she figures out what she wants to do. >> You want me to get out? >> No. No, you're fine. >> Oh, there's like five people now. >> I'm going to go to the the AOA. You're good here? >> Yeah. All right. >> She said you were a deputy. >> Yes. >> County Sheriff's Office. >> Oh, that's all right. >> How long you been with them? >> Five years. I mean, I could get out. I could get in. I mean, you could come in. >> No, you're good right now. >> Listen, I'm just trying to I'm just I don't know. Whatever you guys want to do. Whatever it is. >> I live at that light right there. >> Yeah. >> So, if you want to hang out, if you don't want to hang out, >> where you coming from? Uh, not even long. Um, do you know Gandy Boulevard? I picked up picked up someone, brought them over to their house and then I was going back to my house. >> Gotcha. >> Because I am just living my life. >> I got you. >> And they actually live with Penelis. And so I was like, "Oh, I'll bring you home." >> Gotcha. >> Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. >> So you're Spanish. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. She sure is flirting. Talk about you can get in. Why would he need to get in the car, ma'am? That has nothing to do with anything. Yep. She is definitely trying to flirt her way out of this. Did she She just pointed out there's like five other cop cars. There's so many witnesses. You're not going anywhere. So, thank goodness. But she's definitely trying. Again, I always I think that it's not her first time driving drunk and she's probably flirted her way out of some stuff and it worked. It's not going to work today. Remember the officer that pulled you over? That that was a whole different person. He is now talking to you. But you were stopped. Wasn't she stopped by the woman cop? But she's trying. I guess she thinks she can charm five squad cars or however many are out there. >> You say you say where. >> Honey, you know I speak you speak a Spanish. >> Ah, okay. I'm Dominican. >> Dominican. Oh, no. No. [laughter] >> No. >> What's wrong with that? >> Italiano. Okay. And I only speak some Spanish. Okay. >> For the most part, but >> she pulled me over. I do what I want. >> I got >> But you're St. Pete, so it doesn't matter. >> Are you um like in special unit with the or just a >> No, patrol. Got >> only patrol. >> Gotcha. >> So I What she do? So you patrol too and you So she might have got somebody for DUIs before, but she wants it out. Yeah. Her attitude changed quick, Mindy. I saw her pop up straight in that seat. I said, "Oh, here it goes." [laughter] >> Who? Her? No, >> no, >> no. >> She's been on probably about the same amount of time. >> Five years. >> She's been on five years and it's taking this long. >> She was just making a phone call >> to who? I'm here with you. I don't know. >> All righty. Go step out of the car for me a second. We're just going to talk over there. Okay. >> Come over here. Just round. >> Can we Are you Can you walk? Are you able to walk over here? >> Yeah. In the [ __ ] >> Well, no. I just want to get on the sidewalk. >> Oh [ __ ] Oh. >> All right. Talking to you. I am getting some signs of impairment. Okay. Can I check your eyes real quick? >> Really? >> Oh. Oh. Are you just now realizing she's actually about to give you the stimulus check the test and see if your eyes are wavering? Uhoh. You thought What did you think she was going to do when she called you out the car and didn't put you in handcuffs immediately? That realization We got to go back. The realization on her face that you actually have to do something formal is crazy to me. >> Okay. Can I check your eyes real quick? Really? >> I want I'm I want to give you every chance to say that you're fine. >> Okay. So, can I check your eyes real quick? >> That stuff pisses me off, too. Like, don't stare me down. You know what you did. You're an adult. You made adult decisions. Take these adult consequences and these professional consequences cuz you know even more. And she's patrol, y'all. This is what we're going to do right now. >> I I don't have a choice. >> You don't have a choice? >> No. >> And you pulled me over for going 10 miles over the speed limit. >> You were going more than 10 over the speed limit. And it's not just speed. It's also how you were driving. >> No. >> Look, 10 miles over the speed limit. >> I'm not going to argue with you. I mean, unfortunately, we're past that. I want to give you every opportunity for you to show me that you're okay to drive. And I really hope that that's the results we get. Okay. >> It's not. That's why she fighting so hard. My boss, he said cuz apparently he's been caught speeding a few times. Um cuz he lives really far away from where our actual like office is. But he says he always only goes 8 miles per hour because I guess here he won't get pulled over for going 8 miles per hour. Anything over he's at risk again. But the apparently the eight's the magic number. And I still need to ask him what is his logic? Like how did you find this out? But I will not forget because that's very specific. 8 miles per hour. You're safe apparently for here. [laughter] >> But at this point, I can't just look the other way. >> That's where you're at right now? >> Can I check your eyes real quick? This is how you're doing it. >> Really? >> I don't have a choice. >> It's the same for anybody else. >> No. Yes, you do. I I can't treat anybody any differently. >> Yes, you would. >> No, I >> I wasn't in other people's lanes. >> Okay, I'm not going to argue about that. There's dash cam video and all of that. Okay, but we're past that point right now. >> The point is you were stopped. You're showing signs of impairment. I want >> No, I'm not showing. >> This is Okay, before this when she stared me down, I already asked. I'm going to ask you directly and I'm going to read it from this the script. Are you refusing to participate in field sobriety tests? And what's that? Oh, I had gotten the most common um case law broughten up. Broaden up. Lord, I got I made a list of the most common case laws from the Supreme Court that are brought up on mostly traffic stops, but a couple of them are not about traffic stops. And I forgot to put on my sheet because I was going to point to it and say, you know, they had the Supreme Court ruling where you the cops have to warn them. Um, I can't basically I can't sway you to take it or not take it. Um, but I do have to inform you this is what you'll lose if you do not take it or you refuse to take the test. Um, there was something else. But I got a list for y'all. It was like the top 10 uh most common, but some of them to me didn't feel like they should be in top 10, but about five or six of them y'all will remember seeing them. I can't remember this case name now. Um, oh, but I was going to say I will read from the script that I have to mandatorily read from and when she refuses to answer, I'm going to say the next time I ask you this question and you don't answer yes or no, I'm going to count that as a non-response. That also means no and we can just go straight to the to the uh precinct. I'm I'm over it. I don't have the patience for this because you're playing with my time. You know exactly what's supposed to happen. I already gave you the indication I'm not about to let you off. So, what are we about to do? >> I want to give you every opportunity to show I I want to ask >> what signs of impairment was I show. >> You've got bloodshot, watery eyes. You have >> n I want to know. >> Okay. >> Pulling over. Pulling over. What was the signs of impairment? Because I do not have bloodshot and watery eyes because I have contact lenses in my eyes. I have contact lenses in >> I'm not trying to argue with >> They're waiting for the wavering of the eyes which you know about. It's not about if your eyes are bloodshot. >> Are you okay? I want I'm hoping that you can show me that you're that you're okay to drive. Okay. But I have to go forward with this. I have to at least invest. >> No, no. I just want to know. I explain to you. You smell very strongly of alcohol. >> Sorry. I don't know why the screams causing trying to get it to like I don't know if that's me or them. It's probably me. Hold on y'all. >> The very d facial expression. All these are signs of of impairment. Okay. Again, if you're good to drive, perfect. But that's I have to I have to investigate that. >> I am showing what exactly? >> You have bloodshot, watery eyes. You have slurred speech. You have >> But I'm wearing contact lenses. >> Okay. You have a strong odor of alcohol coming from your breath. >> But I'm wearing I have >> Okay. All right. As I said, I'm just conducting investigation at this point. I want to give you every opportunity. You're saying that you're that you're fine. I want to give you every opportunity to show me that. >> There is no way in hell. No way in hell. >> Okay. Can I check your eyes real quick? Just make sure that you're okay. >> You're going to check it? No. >> Are you I want to give you some opportunity to participate in some field sobriety tests. Is that something you'd be willing to do? And if I >> read the script, officer, so you can count her as a formal uh she does not consent and she can go ahead and put that wrist jewelry on. >> Willing to do that. >> Look, I want you to get I want to give you every opportunity to show me that you're okay to drive. >> So, you're saying that if I'm not willing to do what you're telling me to? >> I'm saying I'm getting signs of impairment. >> Where? Where? >> I explained it to you already. Okay. >> No, say it again. >> I've explained it to you multiple times. You you said that >> now she bullying intimidating. I don't like it. She needs to just be handcuffed. I'm over it. Um she Yeah, she knows she's going to fail. She's just prolonging it because the officer is not letting you go. So just say you don't want to take it, right? Why not just prove it if you're fine? Right. She did want him to investigate her. But you know what's funny? Let's say he flirted back. Fine. Let's say he flirted back. He still would maybe have done his job. Like he just might be nice. Not nice enough, but he might just be a flirt, but doesn't mean he still wouldn't put her through that same field sobriety test. Switching to him still may not help her. I know she's under the illusion it would because obviously she's gotten away with it before, but that's not a guarantee just cuz someone flirts back with you. It's not. They're just entertaining you a little bit. Thank you for uh gifting a trendy membership, Leia's Grandma. I appreciate it. so much. You know, I love it. I'm celebrating. Um I'm going to see who it is in the chat cuz you know I can't see it from here. But I'm going to go looking. Okay. [laughter] >> But it's not impairment. >> Okay. Well, if you if you are telling me you're not impaired, that great. I want you to give me I want you to show me that I'm impaired. >> Okay. Can I check your eyes real quick? >> And then what after that? If you're going to check my eyes, what after that? >> It depends what I see in your eyes. >> Okay. So, it depends off what you're seeing my eyes. But after that, it doesn't mean anything. Well, it's just one step at a time. Right now, I just want to check your eyes. >> No, I don't I don't want to see in my eyes. I want to see after that. >> Okay. After it's it's it's a building process. Okay. It's not a one test determines everything. >> Test. >> Do you are you wearing contacts right now? You said >> I am wearing contact lenses and I cannot take them out. >> That's fine. You do you have blindness in either eye? >> I don't know. I mean, >> can you see the this light? >> Yeah. All I need to do is just stand with your feet together and arms down at your sides. with your iPhone. >> That is That's too fast. Too far away. I can't see. >> You got to look all the way up as far. You're You got to go. Your eyes should go as far up as I can go. >> Can't see anything over there. >> At this time, I give you the opportunity to participate in two more fields of gravity test. Is that something you'd be willing to do? You think that I'm impaired right now >> after eyes? >> So again, there's two additional tests, the walking turns and the one leg stand. Is that okay? >> I'll do all of the tests. >> Okay, perfect. Um, hang on with him. We'll be right back. Then why is she doing this? I live right there. >> You see that man in the background laying that line out for you to walk? But she did it again. She turned to the guy after the woman leaves to play victim. Girl, let it go. She doesn't care. She wants to [ __ ] people over. >> I'm pretty sure that's not what she wants to do. >> Okay. So, >> I'm so sorry. I think that's the woman officer. I said the man, but I just saw a body. So, my bad. My bad. >> In the sense of being a deputy >> with her doing this, what are what are your thoughts? >> What do you mean >> in in the fact of me acing this or not? It doesn't matter, right? No, I mean that's that's the point of this, right? If you're you don't show signs of impairment while you do it, that's better for you. That's why we give you that option. >> I'm still going to be perfect for this. >> There you go. >> All right, we're going to step over here. If you want to come down to this end, [laughter] >> y'all, maybe if she hadn't hadn't told him, she wouldn't date him because he's Dominican Spanish. Maybe that would have helped her out. >> Totally up to you, but I would suggest take your shoes off. Need help. All right. What I'm going to do is put your left foot on the line. Other left. And then you're going to put your right foot in front like this. Standing heel to toe. Arms down at your sides. Yep. Just stay in that position. Don't move till I tell you to begin. Now, when I tell you to begin, you're going to take nine heel to toe steps down the line. Okay? It's going to look like this. One, two, three, and so forth. End of the ninth step. You're going to keep your front foot planted. You're going to step off your back foot. One 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 You're not 100,00 1,002. Keep counting your feet. 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 having them in mind. Do you want to talk to me now? >> Sure. Okay. So, where are you coming from tonight? >> I am coming from downtown S. >> Okay. What time do you go go downtown? >> I went downtown at about 700 p.m. >> Okay. Um, do you come from your place? >> Yeah, I live at Bugs Are Eating Me. >> Okay. Um, can I put my shoes on? >> Yeah. So, in your downtown, well, where'd you go down to downtown? >> Any um place where you can buy, >> you know, you know what I'm talking about? >> Do you remember what it's called? >> I don't remember. Okay. But you can buy a couple pieces. >> What else did we do? Do you remember what a couple pieces of what you're saying? >> Like like like pictures. >> Okay. >> For apartment complexes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Lamps. No, we were just trying to piece furniture together. >> Um, what time is it right now? Without looking, if you have to guess. >> Uh, 12:00. >> Um, how much do you have to drink while you were down there? >> I didn't have anything to drink. >> Okay, here's the thing. We both know you've been drinking. Okay, by telling us complete lies, like I know that you're not being honest. Okay. So, I know you had something. Do you remember where you had drinks? How much did you have? >> So, why do you smell like alcohol? >> I do not smell like alcohol. >> I smell like pigment. >> That's not pigment. That's very strong alcohol. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, you're a deputy, you know, okay, that's caused by alcohol. So, how much do you have to drink? >> What term did she use? She said, "You're a deputy. You know about ISGN." Is that what she said? I'm going to Google it. I just want to make sure I'm googling the right thing. There anything you want from the car? >> I don't want anything. >> Sure. >> What? Just your cell phone. >> Do you have anything else you want? >> Um, my wallet. >> Where is that? >> It should be in the passenger seat. >> Just that just your wallet you're at home. [snorts] >> Now I Yeah, I have two questions because Mindy was like pigment and I was thinking that but I was like maybe it's just me. But she said I smell like pigment. I know she put something in her mouth. So, was it something and then mint like m i n t or is there such thing as actual she smells like pigment? Like I don't understand. She don't look like I don't think she said she came from painting and stuff, right? I don't know what that means in this context. So now I'm confused on two things they mentioned and the officer knew what she was talking about cuz she was like you don't smell like pigment or what what sounded like pigment to me too. having a verbal conversation. >> Oh, maybe peppermint. But it even the sober officer said it the same way. It did not sound like peppermint. But I'm like, this is weird. I don't know. Oh, heck no. We're going through this. I can't stand a isolated sound of somebody chewing gum. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Okay. Okay. His narration's about to start, so I'll go back a little bit. But what I'm not going to do is subject us to somebody snacking on gum and nothing else is going on. No. Hold on. Let me see. >> Lassy odd. >> Okay. Yeah, he's talking. Hold on. Dang, I skipped ahead far. Okay. Not the speeding, not even the field tests. It's that instant where she says she's a Penllis County deputy and the officer just keeps moving forward. Anyway, you're watching someone who clearly expects a little professional grace realize in real time that this stop is not bending for her. Here's the simple version of the law. In Florida, a DUI does not require some dramatic crash or a slurred confession. Prosecutors can build it off impairment itself or off a breath or blood alcohol reading of .008 or higher. And if the level is 0.15 or higher, the exposure gets worse. That matters here because based on the official release, officers said they observed odor of alcohol, slurred speech, glassy eyes, a blank expression, and poor performance on field sobriety exercises. Also important, roadside exercises and the later breath test are not the same thing. Florida's implied consent law is about chemical testing after a lawful DUI arrest, not about being forced to do every balancing exercise on the roadside. So, her push back may have felt confident, but legally it was not the silver bullet she seemed to think it was. Now, as for the officer, I thought the biggest thing she did right was patience. A lot of stops like this turned into an ego contest. This one didn't. She kept repeating the same basic point. I'm seeing signs of impairment and I need to investigate. She also didn't appear to give special treatment just because the driver said she was a deputy. Once the signs are articulated, there's a point where shorter, firmer commands work better. But overall, this looked measured, controlled, and very defensible on camera. According to the Penllis County Sheriff's Office, Shelby Kiglio, 26, was stopped around 10:03 a.m. at 108th Avenue North and 4th Street North in St. Petersburg. The agency said she was arrested for DUI with a breath alcohol reading of 206 and 219, then immediately terminated under department policy. Publicly available. >> Oh, wow. See, this is why I like watching videos with y'all. I thought she was trying to relax herself and so she's doing deep breaths, but I'm like, she never looked panic or had high anxiety, but I was like, maybe reality's kicking in. But Ace Moonshot said, "Is she trying to beat a future breath analyzer by breathing like that?" And that could be because everything about her is shady. I didn't even think that, though. Penllis County disposition notices show the case later resolved with a guilty plea to careless driving and a no contest plea to a reduced DUI count below5. Those notices list 12 months of probation, DUI school, 50 hours of community service, a six-month license revocation. What makes footage like this travel is not just the DUI angle. It's the status angle. People are watching one question play out over and over. Does the system treat insiders differently? That's why the I'm a deputy line lands so hard. It instantly raises the stakes. In this case, the reason the clip works is that the stop keeps moving. It taps into a public appetite for consistency, especially in cases where the person being investigated knows exactly how the process works. Now, I want to hear from you once she identified herself as a deputy. Okay. Again, shout out to safety POV. That's the second one from them that we watched and we Yep. They're going to be the third one. That's I told I have a lot of safety POVs. Uh well, in general, I have a lot, but I hope I think I stopped at a couple. Like, he gonna think I'm just playing stuff on this channel. Okay, so her what was she? She's this one. Okay, so I only heard him mention DUI. That was the only one I did. And again, prosecutors generally must prove that she drove or was in actual physical control of a vehicle and she was under the influence of alcohol, a chemical substance, or a controlled substance to the extent that their normal faculties were impaired or had an unlawful blood or breath alcohol level. All right. So, now we have a drunk deputy again. Oh, drunk deputy chief says you'll regret arresting me during the traffic stop. And I skipped him. Oh, well, I skipped him, I think. But we'll just watch his. In Boone County, Arkansas, a state trooper stops an erratic driver and quickly realizes this isn't just another traffic stop. Behind the wheel is a chief deputy with an arrogant attitude, alcohol on board, and a clear expectation of special treatment. So, does the badge help him here? Watch till the end because I'll break down what the footage doesn't show. >> Hello. >> Hey, I'm Trooper Valentine at Arkansas State Police. Stop because you look like you're having trouble controlling your vehicle. >> All right. What's going on? >> No. Why? >> Your arm. Okay. Where is it? [laughter] >> Huh? It's on your chest. Huh? Been drinking a little? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Can I see your driver's license? Yep. >> So, where you coming from? >> Um, just over Siri. >> Okay. How much have you had to drink? Not much. >> Okay. Well, is your vehicle life Turn it off [laughter] for me. >> All right. So, you got a gun on you? >> It's off. >> It's off of you. Is it in the vehicle? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you're a deputy. >> You're the chief. Okay. Well, so you you know better. >> I've had some bad times. >> That's what I want to hear. Before we say anything else, let's say, "Oh, so you know better." That's what we need to be right now. >> Well, I understand that. Uh but I mean you know we can't be out driving if we've been drinking. >> Yeah. >> And uh [snorts] you know I caught you coming back onto the highway back there. You almost hit a sign and then followed you for a little while and you touched the yellow line twice. Touch the white line twice. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Uh so I'm going to do some test on you. All right. You know how all this is going to go. U if you are impaired, there's nothing I can do for you. Okay. >> Okay. cuz it's not uh it wasn't my choice. Whatever you've done and you know my job's going to be on the line just like yours is. Okay. You got gum in your mouth. Okay. Go ahead and spit that out for me. All right. Come back here toward my car. Okay. So, how much have you had? You don't know. You don't remember? Okay. Well, pull your hands out of your pockets. All right. Go ahead and stand. All right. You gonna You gonna be all right? >> Yeah. >> All right. Go ahead and stand up for me right here. Okay. And face my car. [snorts] You want to go through these tests or you just want me to take you in? >> I love when a state trooper pulls over a police officer, especially for DUIs cuz so far it they used to be no nonsense. It's like we're going to do what we need to do and keep it moving. This it's something about the tilt of that hat. I don't know. Don't take me to Newton. I won't take you to Newton. We're in Boone right now. So, I'll be taking you to Boone. Okay. [snorts] I know it sucks. All right. But like I said, it's not my choice. >> Can't give me a break, man. >> You know, I can't absolutely [snorts] can't. It's on camera. I can't do anything about it. Uh I've got family out here on this highway. I'm sure you do, too. I do smell. I mean, I can smell some odor of intoxicants. All right. Of course, you've admitted to me that you've had something to drink. It's on camera. You're driving. So, [screaming] it's up to you if you want to take tests or if you just want to go into jail, [screaming] man. Well, I understand that. But you I'm sure you understood that, too, when you decided to drive, right? So, what do you want to do? Well, we can't sit here all day. >> I know. All right. [snorts] So, again, it's up to you, but like I said, we can't sit here all day. So, either we can do some tests here. I can PBT you. We can see where you're at. you know, the law if you're under 8%. Uh, I mean, it's still it's still up to me, you know, between 4% and 8%. Whether I want to take you to jail or not. I do have some bad driving. If you're under 8%, I can work [snorts] with you. If you got somebody that can come get you, we can go that route. >> Okay. It was Arkansas. It wasn't Florida. Remember what I told you? Same channel. Just couldn't remember which video. They said in a certain state, DUI DWI can be proven by impairment, not just the 0.08. 08 BAC. This is the one I saw him. Well, he pointed out in text, but he does say it later somewhere in here, too. >> Okay. Oops. Seriously, >> I've I can't do that. I can't without testing you. Yes, please. You know that I have no discretion when it comes to DWI. [screaming] >> No, it's not. We've got cameras. We've got everything else. It's not like it used to be. >> Oh, hold on. Let me see what he said. Let me see. Cuz a lot of them do that. Let me see. >> You know that I have no discretion when it comes to DWIS. >> No, it's not. We've got cameras. We've got everything else. It's not like it used to be. I do wish I could help you out, but uh I don't I I do not have that discussion. the fact if he actually says this quote, which I I'm trusting this uh channel right now. The fact that he even works his mouth to say, "You regret arresting me." He's intimidated a lot of officers. And he's also again drinking and driving seems like it's a routine thing and nobody's supposed to punish me for it. >> Okay. She told my [ __ ] but >> have you got somebody back close by and come get it? in like 5 to 10 minutes. >> Man, the whole thing my wife. >> Well, she's going to know. >> Yeah. >> She she know where you're at right now. >> No. >> Okay. Which I mean that's none of my personal business, but I'm just, you know, just curious. But, uh, like that said, if you've got somebody that can come get it again, I can't leave it here, okay? Because if someone comes by and knocks the window out of it, that's going to be on me. So, we can't do that. >> I love this question. Lovable said, "Ask him how many people has he let go for DUIs." Probably some buddies, but I don't think he's probably let any civilians go. You know what this is? >> So, just so I know right now, when you're refusing all tests, you're not going to take a test when we get down there or anything like that? No. >> Okay. No. >> Okay. >> So, do you have someone you can call? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, go ahead and get them on the phone. Okay. All right. All right. Do me a favor. Walk up this way. Go ahead and put your hands on my car. All right. We're just going to go through this like we normally do. I just got to follow policy, man. If I want them to back me up, I got to do what they want me to do. All right. [screaming] Go ahead and put your hands on there. Bring your feet backward toward me. No. Put your hands on the car for me. Bring your feet back. All right. So, you don't have anything on? All right. I will do the professional courtesy if you want. We can uh I can just cuff you in the front, set you in the back of my car. You want to do that >> or you rather have him behind back? He's >> helping me. >> Seriously? >> Like I said, it's policy. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> You want me to follow policy? >> I think it's [ __ ] all the way, but >> Okay. [snorts] >> Yeah. Um Yeah. Let me get my pills up there. I have to have them. >> Okay. What are they for? >> Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll let you go up there. >> Gun there. >> Okay. >> So, where'd you go? >> Okay. Guns in there. And okay. Should be all right with them in here. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Let's go. >> I'll follow you. >> Sit me in the back seat. >> Yeah, we'll sit you in the back seat. >> Go ahead. Okay. Yeah, sure. >> We'll go on that side. No, go on the passenger side. >> Okay. I wish I had a little bit more detail on this when it comes to drunk driving and stuff like that. But police do not have to read you your Miranda rights just because they're encountering you um and just because you're detained. It has to be that. And I know asking someone if they had drinks could be seen as you're incriminating yourself, but apparently those are not questions that qualify for I have to read you your Miranda rights. But it is not 100% that just because you encounter a police and you get arrested that they have to read you your Miranda rights. is a very it's a defined span of I guess situations questions or I don't know cuz some of them they'll ask questions and they'll read you and then they re ask the questions after that usually to shoplift is where I see that a lot at but yeah he's not they're not wrong for not reading Miranda rights in these DUI cases but I don't understand the nuance enough to go deeper in explaining that I just see cops talking about that all the and slide on in. Kind of knock himself there. >> You want to be buckled? You want to be buckled? >> Are you serious? >> I mean, that's up to you, I guess. >> Man, >> it's not my fault. Don't look at me like that. >> No, no, it's my fault. >> Okay, you understand that? >> No, I didn't call. I know. I know. What's on me? >> Some other guy out here, you know, driving around suspended, you know, no job, whatever. I'd be doing the same thing. [ __ ] Pretty much lost my life, lost my career, and probably lost my life. >> Well, I hope not. I mean, I don't know what you guys uh you know, I don't know how everything goes over there, but uh you have a pretty good chance of you know, judge sign you not guilty. He does that quite a bit. I don't know how it I've never seen him uh in court with another officer with DWI, but uh you know, in that court, it's kind of hit or miss whether or not we're going to get a conviction on DWI. I don't know if being charged with it is enough for you to get fired. Don't you have to be convicted of Coup? >> No. >> Sure. >> All right. Shut the door. Okay. >> And again, that's not typically me. I I don't I don't feel like I'm drunk enough to, you know, be, you know, >> you don't feel like you're drunk enough. But it doesn't sound like he's also given anything to prove it. Like at least the breath, at least that if you don't want to do field sobriety test, as we all know, a lot of us would not pass the field sobriety test because we're either uncoordinated, have horrible memory, all kinds of things. But why won't you at least take the breathalyzer? >> Yes. >> Over the legal limit. Well, like I said, you know, you I mean, I gave you the choice if you wanted to take this and see where you're at or, you know, just go on down with uh with no test. >> So, what do I do now? What do you think? >> Well, uh 15 years longer. Uh, I mean, like I said, um, you know, I've I've got just what was on the camera there, a little bit of your driving. So, uh, if you're refusing all other tests, and that's going to be the only evidence we have. So, you're just kind of taking a chance on what the judge wants to do. But here, you know, I mean, obviously I can't give you any legal advice, but uh, you know, you may have a shot doing that, but you know, if you took a portable and you were under, then, you know, you'd just another chance you could take on that, too. So, >> I feel like I'm under, be honest with you. I don't drink much, but [music] >> I know how it goes. You know, back in the day in the course of [music] it was a long time an officer would just take them home. >> Yeah, I know. I've heard about that. You know, just because that's what they used to do doesn't mean that was right. >> Yeah, you're right. >> We also used to slap people around just for back talking. Can't do that anymore either. >> Well, I used to do that, too, but >> Yep. >> Oh, he's a horrible cop. Horrible. He needs to get every punishment because I don't like the way I now I don't know if the first cop also that said we can't slap people around anymore too meant he actually did but that one in the back seat said yeah I used to do that so yeah uh take everything >> heard about you don't have any water or anything in there >> water >> I do actually I got that you want that >> um you up there don't [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> You get it? >> I tell you what, if you open that tailgate, I got water in there. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm surprised the state trooper is letting him take pills or drink a beverage until they get to the station because they don't that they always say, "We don't know what um you're consuming. We don't know what's in that thing you want to take. I don't know what kind of pills you're taking. You could tell me it's a type pill, but it may not be that pill. And if something happens to you on my way to the station, it's on me." That's what I usually hear like they are they don't usually play and for a state trooper to be lenient like that I am surprised >> you Yeah, good bro. >> So, I'm trying to figure out what I do now. >> Uh, >> I don't know. I mean, >> what do you mean? >> Did I do for like a career? >> I mean, >> well, like I said, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what you guys policy is. like that. I don't even know. If I was to be uh charged with a DWI, I don't think that'd be enough to get me fired. I think you'd probably have to be convicted of a DWI. So, I wouldn't even I mean, I know it's on your mind, but you know, I probably wouldn't be too worried at this point. >> You wouldn't be worried this is what I'm worried, but you know what I mean. You've not been fired yet. What's up? >> Uh, calling me to >> got my phones. >> Your phone? >> Yeah, >> it's up there in your truck, I guess. Then you put it on the dash when you got off of it. >> Okay. >> You want to take your phone with you? >> You might grabbing that. >> Okay. >> At least I told them I'm gone. This chief deputies going to jail. Um, do you mind grabbing that? >> No, I'll go get it. >> Okay. >> Oh, you want it right now? >> Yeah. >> The trooper has disappointed me a little bit. I wanted to keep the nononsense encounter we had in the beginning. Those are the best ones. Hey, >> I'm sitting in the back of of a police car with Valentine, the other Valentine. Anyway, he says I'm drunk. So, anyways, >> he says I'm drunk. You're drunk. Don't if his Let's just say it's not just a guilt trip and he really does believe after this pullover his wife is going to leave him. That means he's been reckless for a long time. He's almost cost them a lot in their livelihood, probably frequently because one time of being pulled over for drinking don't mean your wife necessarily is going to leave you. But when you say it with that much conviction, you've been doing things in my opinion. >> Over drunk driving. >> Seriously? >> Yes. Seriously. >> Where you at? I'm at almost 206. >> All right. Talk to >> Hey, this Well, I was uh southbound on seven here. Uh actually going out to the Daisy Queen, but uh saw this Tacoma in front of me. Uh get quite a bit off the road kind of into the grass on the right side and come back over onto the highway and watch him for a little bit. Hit the yellow line at the white line at the yellow line at the white line. So holding over here's North 206 here and uh it's uh your chief deputy. >> Well, he's refused any test, so I don't know where he's at. uh you know as far as BAC. So uh we're going to take him to the guy. >> All right. >> No problem. You want to talk to him? >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Well, just go ahead and fire me, I think. >> I had a incident last night. So, >> thank you for adding the context. I wanted it, too. So, you just had something happen last night and you getting caught day drinking and driving this morning. Anyways, >> um I guess he's taking me to Boom County. Can you can you b me out? Can you get me out of there? >> Okay. All right. Thanks. >> Okay. >> All right. Bye. Hey, where you at? >> Okay. >> Where are you exactly? I'm sitting here at this church that RPM or whatever. >> Okay. >> Oh, are they um sitting there because he's letting the wife pick up the car? Cuz I was wondering why they were still sitting there, but I he did say something about maybe she could get the vehicle or get stuff out of the vehicle. >> What was your PC, by the way? >> You're driving. Did you not just hear this man say the the probable cause when he said he went over the white the yellow line, then he went over the white line, then he went back over the yellow line. You heard the probable cause for pulling you over. Then go off into the ditch and then come back, hit the yellow line twice, hit the white line twice. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> How's it going? you know, >> been better, I guess. >> Yeah. >> Well, I got him in the back seat there. I guess you guys are taking the truck. >> Yeah. >> Who's driving it? >> Um, >> okay. Have you got your driver's license on you? I just got to we just want to run it and make sure uh everybody knows who I'm releasing the vehicle to. Okay. >> Okay. >> You want to talk to her, >> please? >> You can talk to him if you want. Can you let me out, man? I mean, >> well, I don't want to do that. I'm not saying you're going to run or do anything stupid. >> Anything safe. >> This is ridiculous. >> And you are no better than Jamie Roston. >> Oh, no. We got to Google Jamie Roston. This is Arkansas, too. I shall look that up while we continue to play. Yeah, she going to leave your butt. [laughter] And she should cuz he seems very irresponsible and frequently cuz how you already have an incident last night. You got another one today. Yeah. Go ahead and leave him, girl. Leave him alone. He's just going to keep making your life miserable. Keep making the same choices cuz there's not been real consequences. And she all she wants to say to you is for you to come get your stuff. Because if you cared about her, you wouldn't do this. Okay. In Arkansas in 20 October 4th, 2018, 25-year-old Jamie Rosten will be cited for careless driving. He apparently he crashed into a school bus at 7:55 a.m. and hit a utility pole. You hatch? >> No, he's >> That's a 12-hour time. Did you arrest him? >> Huh? >> What time did you arrest him? >> Uh, I'll have to check. It was about 10, a little before 10:00. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Well, that's what I told him. I said, "Mel." So, I've always heard about this, so I hope it never happened to me, but you know, I get my transit. [clears throat] >> Yeah. There's nothing I can do about it. >> All I was >> Now, I lived in Arkansas. Mr. Tren is from Arkansas, but sometimes the way that they speak, I've missed some of the words that [laughter] are coming that they're saying. I'm trying really hard to pick this up. >> Can I get a 309 holding cell one, please? Huh? >> Michael Dunn. Michael Dunn. >> No, he's the chief. [clears throat] >> Chief Chief, sorry. I've never met >> I worked with him on that deal at Newton County. U that guy that had the baby multip that Thanksgiving holidays last year. I think it was Thanksgiving. So, I was headed out to my mom and dad's house. >> Yep. >> Oh, yeah. That sucks. He's like, "Man, you can't do this." I'm like, "I can't do anything." I said, "That's all on camera. I can't just let you go. Let somebody come pick you up. I mean, they have preached that to us and preach that to us." I said, "Yeah." I said, "Well, it's" He kept looking at me. I said, "Don't look at me like that." I said, "It's not my fault. It wasn't my choice. >> I know. Well, not a lot of it. >> Yeah, but not enough issues. >> Okay. >> He refused the DAC and that's typically followable. >> Yeah. Yeah. He's refused any test. I didn't >> Oh, >> I didn't. >> Okay. Well, then that's that's the rules. That's the rules. Let it sell out. >> So, let's talk about what really made that stop. >> All right, before we go there, that makes sense. Forever TRL said, "Oh, that's the friend of hers who was talking to him that said that." I love that you go girls. He probably been like this for a while and that was the final straw. Yeah, cuz I like he said it with such he was so sure about it when he said my wife's going to leave me. I said, "Oh, man. You've been doing things for a while. She has made it very clear now. She not she already got her clothes or told him going to get his clothes. Oh yeah, she knew it was going to happen. She knew he was going to mess up again. He didn't. He just was on the phone and said uh and with that incident that happened last night. Nobody specified the incident that actually happened last night. He just said he got in trouble and that's why he knew he was about to be fired because he said she's gonna fire me and then he said because I already had that incident last night. Yeah. He's an everyday drunk. His wife is tired of him, right? Yep. Okay. Look, Asa, I want somebody to drop the tea on the previous night cuz I'm like, were you on duty or did you do something else personally again? Uh, Sweet T said, now since he finally got caught and not let go, maybe he'll get a ride next time. This will be his rock bottom, or at least it would be for most. I don't know if this is his personal rock bottom, though. So fascinating because the biggest part of this story wasn't just the bad driving. It was the moment the trooper realized the man behind the wheel wasn't an ordinary driver at all. He was a chief deputy, someone who already understood how these cases work, how quickly they can spiral, and exactly how costly one bad decision can become. And that changes the way you watch the entire encounter. Because now this isn't just about a traffic stop. It becomes a test of judgment, accountability, and whether the rules really apply the same way when the person in trouble is someone who wears a badge. Now, here's what a lot of viewers miss in cases like this. People tend to focus on one question. Was he over 08 or not? But under Arkansas law, that's only part of the picture. A DWI case does not always depend on a single breath test number. A person can be charged based on actual impairment, and BAC of 0.08 or higher is simply one separate way of proving the offense. So when you combine poor driving an admission to drinking and a refusal to test, that is not some clever legal loophole. That is a very serious problem and the refusal matters more than people think. Refusing a chemical test doesn't erase the stop and it doesn't erase the officer's observations. In Arkansas, that refusal can create its own consequences, including a first offense suspension on the administrative side. a first DWI alcohol offense also carries separate license consequences. So the idea that maybe there's no number, so maybe there's no case just doesn't hold up. That's not how this works. But the legal side is only one half of the story. The other half is the professional fallout. And for someone in law enforcement, that fallout can hit just as hard, sometimes harder. Because once a chief deputy gets tied to a DUI arrest, the issue stops being just personal. It becomes institutional. It becomes about credibility, leadership, judgment, and public trust. As for what happened after the stop, reports said he was cited for DWI, first offense, and for refusing to submit to a chemical test after the stop in Boone County. Early coverage said he was placed on paid administrative leave and later said he submitted his resignation. Now, in similar cases involving a suspected and a refusal to test, the legal and professional fallout can get serious very quickly. on the criminal side can lead to an unclassified misdemeanor conviction anywhere from 24 hours up to one year in jail or in some cases court-ordered public service instead of jail. It can also bring fines ranging from 150 to $1,000 for a first offense. On the license side can trigger a six-month suspension and a refusal to submit to a chemical test can bring a separate 180day suspension on its own. In addition to that, reinstatement can come with required alcohol education or treatment, a victim impact panel, reinstatement fees, and in some cases, an ignition interlock requirement before full driving privileges are restored. And when the person involved is a law enforcement officer, the consequences can go far beyond the courtroom. In similar officer involved cases, departments may open an internal investigation, place the officer on administrative leave, remove command responsibilities, or move toward resignation or termination depending on policy, public pressure, and the facts developed after the arrest. And then there's certification. In Arkansas, the Commission on Law Enforcement Standards and Training has the authority after notice and a hearing to revoke certification or revoke an officer's ability to act as a law enforcement officer for reasons that can include conduct punishable by law, dismissal for agency rule violations, resigning while under internal investigation, ethics violations, dishonesty, and other qualifying misconduct. So even when a roadside stop ends quietly, the aftermath in a case like this can be anything but quiet. And that's exactly why footages like this spark such strong reactions. On one side, people see the personal collapse, the career risk, the embarrassment, the family consequences, the public humiliation. On the other side, people see accountability. They see proof that the standard is supposed to apply to everyone, even the people who enforce it. And somewhere between those two reactions is where the real debate begins. So now I want to know what you think once the troop. >> All right. Safety POV holding it down. Yeah. Apparently we're not going to know what specifically happened to him cuz as we have already it's already been proven. If safety POV knew they would say cuz they went down the gambit for that that um the one where the woman had to arrest her senior officer. So if they do they would have said. I also am curious about what did he do last night the previous night. But hopefully the wife stuck to her guns and really left him too. Hopefully. Good morning, muted expressions. Thank you for the super chat. Say, "Hey, trending in chat. Happy Sunday. I'm late as I'll get out, but I'm starting the video from scratch." Replay gang gang. [laughter] Thank you. Meet Expressions. When you catch up to this point, I appreciate you. Okay, we have I think one more. I hope this wasn't the last one that I I I didn't tell y'all. So, hold on. Let's see. Hopefully. Oh, I didn't. Okay, we got one more. This is the last one. All right, so drunk police officer arrested by her own agency. It's just embarrassment after embarrassment today. All right. Um, was there anything else I wanted to say? Oh, I remember the question I wanted to ask y'all when we ended the live yesterday. I was going to ask you, do you like the interactive poll thing with the juror decision type thing? I like it because it's this is why I like it because not only do y'all answer the poll, but then you'll put your reasons why in the chat. So that's why I like it because it also keeps my mind a little open just in case I um didn't consider something. But yeah. All right. So last one. >> Before anyone at this crash scene knows exactly how the night unfolded, one detail changes everything. The woman hiding behind a tree is an Ocala police officer. Over the next hour, what starts as a damaged car and a shaky story turns into something far worse a case built piece by piece by her own words, her own co-workers, and the evidence she cannot outrun. >> Did Did any Did anybody see what happened? Did anybody see her in the car? >> No. >> Nobody saw her in the car? >> No. Okay. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you. >> You all right? >> Hello. >> I think she's the first one that starts out looking remorseful. She over here hiding behind a tree, sliding down the walls, but it's a tree instead of the walls. >> Hey, talk to us. >> Who are you talking to? Okay. >> What's your name? >> Candy McDonald. >> Did you say Candy? >> Katie. >> Katie. Katie. >> She works for us. Are you all right? Get up. You got ants for us. >> I know. I know. I know. It hurts. It hurts. >> You got ants crawling all over. >> I know. And it hurts. >> Come on. >> I'm not I'm not going to be able to do this. The baby voice and the owls are already taking me out. Yo, she's literally in the bushes over. [laughter] Mindy say, "Are you going to try to do the trigger warning video again this evening?" Yep, but it's going to be early afternoon if I can help it because I have a feeling my plans are about to be interrupted. So, that's the only thing. Otherwise, yes, I do plan on doing the trigger warning um one that I meant to do yesterday. I'm going try to do it today. So, look out for it. Hopefully, Mindy, we'll see how the weather and everything wants to go. Why is she hiding behind a tree? Does she think she's invisible? Love said, "This chick pissed me off and is one of the reasons a lot of innocent people get in trouble." Ooh. Oh, so she must have lied about the actual circumstances. A well, her voice already getting on my nerves. So, [laughter] Ace says she's already annoying him. I know. Omar, I said, "Oh, it's them fire ants." That's what I was thinking. I'm like, "How did she sit there that long and get bit by ants?" Cuz he had to say it, then she was like, "Ow, ow, ow." I don't play about fire ants. [laughter] Sweet tea said, "You wrong." Got me laughing. It's her fault. Sweet tea, >> what are you doing? What happened? >> Pushing me into [laughter] >> Say what? Hold on. I didn't hear you. >> Start over. These guys wouldn't stop following me and they wouldn't stop [laughter] telling me they were going to hurt me until I got in my car and tried to drive away and I wanted to call somebody. [laughter] >> Where were they following you from? >> From >> Okay. Were they in a vehicle >> or they were following you when you were at Omali's and then you got in your car to drive away? Are the guys Do you see the guys? >> They're gone. [laughter] >> Okay, come on over here. Let's go over here and have a seat. Come on. You're safe. >> Sorry, I didn't recognize you. [laughter] >> I've been drinking a lot, but I just wanted to get away from you. >> These the people that were here did not see her driving. They were not wheel witnesses. They showed up because they saw the accident. They saw her outside of the car and she ran over there behind the tree. >> This is one of the most important technical details in the whole case. No one at the scene actually watched the impact itself, which means officers have to build the driving element from timing, physical evidence, and McDonald's own word. For the moment, that leaves a narrow gap in the story, but it is a gap that will start closing almost immediately. >> You got your driver's license on you? >> [laughter] [laughter] >> All right, come with me. The car >> you all right? >> Why were you hiding behind the tree? I got you. >> I'm drunk and I didn't want to drive, but they gave me no joy. I didn't want to call them one because I was scared. >> That doesn't make sense. Here, just just hang out by my car. Okay. Not sure where exactly what to do till we get everything figured out with that. I mean, I'm not sure exactly what to do cuz start doing crap. This is the driver. >> She's going to be down He's going to be down there by the other police offic. >> Okay. Is there a way that we could get through to bring the ambulance down there or >> I'll move my >> Thank you. >> Driver's down there by the other cop car, but [clears throat] >> Huh? Yeah. >> Yeah, that's her. >> All right. >> Anyway, this is just the pole she hits. That's she >> we don't know yet. We just got here. So, >> Okay. But I got two airbag deployments. Hey bud, >> have you guys want to put the tag in the car? >> Yep. I already put I already called out the tag. So it should be there if you get refreshed. I've already called a 1070. >> So I'll pull out this and this your call or >> No, I'm going home. That's why I called you out. >> Okay, before we get back to whiny whiny voice. Oh my god. How are we going to make it through this? And she's lying on people. not with this at all. Thank you for the super chat, Noir Angel. She said, "I just wanted to let everyone here know that watching these videos with y'all is really helping my mental health. Thanks, trending in chat." Thank you. We are here for each other. I take a minimal amount of credit cuz again, I can only control this environment so much. So, yeah. No, thank you. Thank you for telling me that because you know, I go through my cycles of should I just stop talking? You know, I really do. So, I you know I I need the feedback sometimes and cuz I never know when that's going to hit me. And the way you can tell is if you don't see me doing anything for a long time. But I've become better at at least committing to Saturday and Sunday with y'all. But I do start getting like, oh man, I don't know if I have anything else to say. I don't know. So, thank you. Yeah, because I get I get very insecure about someone's already said this. They've already said the best part. What else can I say? So, thank you very I I am I'm very happy about that. So, appreciate you for putting that out there. >> It's just a long form crash. That's it. I can help you. It's all good. >> All right. Yeah. I mean, it's just single vehicle. It should even though it's a long form, it's pretty short. Um, you know, we don't have any witnesses. Those people standing outside didn't see are not a real witness. They didn't see her. They saw her outside of the car when they pulled up and they she ran over there behind me. >> Well, they you guys >> No, no, they're they're not involved. They said, "We want to go." So, >> yeah. When I came walking up, they were standing there and I said, "Hey, are y'all all right?" The big guy. >> Yeah. >> Said, "That's not my car." So, what it was is who was in it. And he goes, >> she ran over there behind the tree. >> Yeah. >> I said, "Black girl, white girl." Who's that white girl? >> She was hiding me on that tree next to the next to the sign of it. >> Me and her walked over to the tree. She was sitting there on the phone. I said trying to talk to her. I didn't realize I don't know who she is. I don't think I've ever seen her before. What's your name? She said it's Katie McDonald. >> McDonald. And I said, >> oh, >> yeah. I said, okay, what's your what's your first name? And then Louise said she works for police department. Yeah. Just worry about the signal card. >> Yeah, I I'll tell Jonice what she told me about you. She said she was at night following her and she got the car left. She spontaneously that she's been drinking a lot. >> What the footage does not fully show is that the men at the scene were not strangers who just happened to wander over. According to reporting, one was an offduty Sumpter County deputy and McDonald had already called for help before police arrived. reportedly downplaying the crash as a curb strike and a bad tire. By the time officers get there, her version of the night is already competing with people who knew where she had been and how serious the damage really was. Okay. All right. Well, if I need anything, I got your uh I got your information. All right, man. All right. Thanks, bro. >> He's a sump county deputy that was out here. So, I called him and I was like, >> witness, >> huh? >> Was he a wheel witness? >> He's not a wheel witness. He said that he was uh he was up at Hunterproof. Saw her 30 minutes prior to her calling cuz she was up there at Hunterproof. 30 minutes later he's he said he him and the other two guys which I only got one person's name said they were going out the car. He gets a call from Katie saying um hey I just hit a curb and he goes okay no problem. She said >> yeah. He goes yeah no problem. We can meet you there. Uh we can change your tire or whatever. So she kind of downplayed it when they got here. He goes, "That's a lot more than a curve." >> And and she came out. She's like, "I got into a crash." That's he didn't say she hit a hole. Nothing like that. But he said she's the only one around. There wasn't anybody else around. When he showed up, she was crying. And he goes, "Uh-uh. This is way worse." And he's the one who called it in saying, "No." Called it in. Yep. Exactly. >> All right. Do me a favor. Get your card out. take me some best you can. >> Okay. It is what it is. >> Okay. Um I got Masio working on the 1070 and the uh and the crash report right now. >> All right. You're welcome. >> He would hurt me if I didn't tell him. >> Oh, I see. I see. So somebody would hurt her if she didn't tell them something. Is this where that lie where she really could have got some people in trouble happening right now? >> Was it this way? >> And then they kept telling me that they were going to hurt me if I didn't listen to them. I didn't I didn't my How did you end up in the pool? >> They were falling and I fell and I crashed into the ball and when I got up I ran out and they were gone. >> Okay. >> I've been drinking. I'm not going to >> I didn't know what to do. I I didn't know what >> So after you said you hit the pole >> I just want to leave. And she's supposed to be trusted with a weapon. No. No, ma'am. >> And they got out and they told me that I was They told me that I was They told me such a bad thing. They said such a bad thing. They told me that I was a [ __ ] and they told me that I was such a bad thing and I didn't. >> Okay. >> All right. And then then you ended up over here. I guess that's that's what happened. grab him into the I was so scared. I was so scared. I didn't I called my brother and I called my brother. I called my brother and he never answered. Ask, "Can [clears throat] you see her call log right now?" That won't prove that she's telling the truth. But I just at least want to see if this piece of the story is is anything in there. Is that also a lie? >> Okay, at this point, I'm going to finish the crash investigation right now from my end. Um, which you said you were heading westbound on this this road and end up in the pole. People were following [laughter] you and you were freaking out. >> They were they scared me so much they wouldn't leave me when I stopped following me. I told I told them I was like I'm scared. I don't want to leave my face. >> She thought they wouldn't stop calling her like on the phone or in person. I know this is all a lie. I just I like to know the details of the lies. and and he told me to just wait, but I didn't wait. I just ran to my car. >> Okay. >> And I cried. >> Hey, did you have your ID and everything on you? >> I already know. I'm intoxicated. I missed it. >> Okay. So, basically heading westbound on this road and she said some people were following her and she stretches the pole and headed out over here trying to get away from them without calling her names. Did she call 911? >> Jade crashed in the tree. I guess I don't know how exactly she did crash, but she said the chance of crashing too much >> for the powerful. >> They scared me so much for me right now. I'm going to go. >> Did you call 911? Is such a valid question, especially to a dog on cop. You called your brother and he wasn't answering. But at no point did you No, I should call 911. I'm being threatened because she didn't need the proof of that because no one's threatening her. She This is weaponized tears. She is very dangerous. And to be behind a badge also, you know. Oh my god. She is very dangerous. >> Putting all this in. You need this. >> Not really. Okay. Just step up over here for me. It's right right up here. Right up here to the front. Right up closer to the front. All right. I'm going to have you step over here for me or face me. Okay. All right. I know. Uh completed the crash investigation. I have have to read you this. Okay. You do have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be is against you in the court of law. you have the right to talk a lawyer with you while you're being questioned. If you can >> I just want to tell you there's nothing wrong with y'all's internet or my internet. The actual source video is pausing every few seconds right now and I don't know why but it's not us. It's that's just how the YouTube video is playing right now cuz I can still see subtle movement in the blurry part but the clear part goes still afford to hire a lawyer want to be appointed to represent you before any question if you wish. You decide any time to exercise these rights not answer any questions or make any statements. Do you understand each of these rights have explained to you? Yeah. You're not under arrest. Okay. Having no raise to mind. You want to talk to me? All right. You shook your head. Yes. Okay. So, I'm just going to Can you tell me what happened when it crashed? Can you start from the beginning? >> These guys followed me out of the [laughter] store. I haven't seen them before. And they just look at me like they're going to do something so dirty to me. And [clears throat] I'm scared. I try I try to act brave and I try to act tough because >> because I'm the person. >> Okay. I know you said something about you were at a mall. >> Yeah. >> And there were some guys there bothering you. >> They always bother me. The same guys. >> Okay. >> The same guy. >> And you told the bartender there that they were bothering you? >> Yes. I told [laughter] >> And he told you to wait. It took me every time. But >> okay. >> All right. That's a location specific. Oh, Mali's. We got a time frame. And she did say she spoke to the bartender. And not only did she speak to the bartender, the bartender told her to wait. So, all they got to do is find out who was on shift at Ali's as a bartender and ask them, "Do you remember this woman? Did any of you ever tell her to wait? Did she tell you that these guys were threatening her and following her?" Cool beans. >> Did you call for any law enforcement or call for somebody >> to come and pick me up, but he wasn't able to come and pick me up. >> Okay. What about any other law enforcement or anything if they were bothering you? >> My law enforcement? No, because I'm I know what it's like to to be in law enforcement, and I don't want to bother law enforcement with that sort of responsibility. >> Okay. All right. So, you you >> I wish I had my camera on right now cuz I know you lying. I did not want to bother law enforcement because I know about that responsibility. I'm writing this down. I don't know if I'll have to repeat my notes, but I just want to make sure I have it all. This is crazy. That makes no sense at all why a cop would not call to get backup even off duty cuz you know you got certain privileges and you don't get no record of this or nothing. But it's so bad they caused you to crash and it's so bad you asked a civilian to help you and some other civilian I can't I don't know if she said boyfriend brother at that point I don't know was supposed to come get pick you up but they didn't and all this time of waiting it was I'm never going to actually call for help for people that have weapons and can definitely help me definitely can help me. [laughter] >> You stated that you ran out of out of males and got in your car and drove off. >> I just wanted to leave. I just wanted to leave me alone. Okay, I understand. >> I don't want them to touch me. >> Were you in the car by yourself? >> Yeah. >> I called my friend AJ and I told him I'm like I I don't want them I don't want them to touch me and I don't want them to to be anywhere near me. >> All right. Call log for AJ coming up. That should have a timestamp. And before she gets to talk to AJ again and before she gets her phone, ask AJ did she call him and say any of this. >> And he kept saying that they were. And then he said, "Don't drive. Don't drive. Don't drive." But I was like, "I'm so lost because he was sick tonight." He texted me earlier tonight and he said that he was sick with an allergic reaction. He said that he was sick. And I told him, I said, "Go to the doctor. Go to the hospital." I said, "Go receive treatment, whatever it is that you need to do to receive treatment." And he was like, "I will. I will. I will." But I I guess he never did. I don't know. But I just kept telling him like just please like please like just don't just please don't bother me like like >> Okay. So [clears throat] you left you ran to your car and and left them out. >> I just Yeah. I just didn't want them >> Okay. >> There was nobody else in the car with you. >> No. >> You were driving the car. >> I was scared. >> You were driving the car, right? >> And I just didn't want them to touch me. I don't I want something. >> Okay. You were driving the car. >> This is the turning point officer. Even >> Thank you, officer, for staying on task on the question because do y'all hear every time he asked her that question, she's not answering it. She's like, "And I and N and" and he's staying right on the question, "Were you driving the car?" I appreciate that because people like this will try to get you off task so fast with their lies. Oh my gosh. Um, so she so finally the touching me part came back in. I want to know when did they call her a B b word in between all these sequence of events. I just want to see if she keeps it consistent because we y'all have already told me she's lying. So I just want to see if she keeps it consistent even though she's lying. I want to know there the truth part possibly in here is that earlier that day her friend AJ texted her and said that he was sick. He might have had an allergic reaction. That's the only thing right now I'm picking up that I feel like she might be throwing that in there to to help her other part of her story. But I don't believe she called AJ to tell him some people were following her. And why would you call him if you already knew from earlier in the day he had an allergic reaction so he wasn't going to be able to come get you anyway? Um but yeah, so I don't think she called her brother. I don't think she called AJ. I don't think that's what she said to the bartender if she at all spoke to a bartender. We'll keep going. >> Even without a direct eyewitness to the collision, she has now placed herself alone in the car and behind the wheel. From here on, the central question is no longer who was driving. It is how impaired she was, how reliable the rest of her account is, and whether any part of the night can still be explained away. >> And and there was no other passengers in the car that could be injured. >> No, no, no one. Okay. >> I just need I just >> All right. How much have you had to drink tonight? I've had at least seven beers. >> Seven beers. Okay. >> I just >> Are you blind in either eye? >> No. >> Taking any medications? >> No. >> That might be a truth because usually it's I had two drinks and she says seven beers. That might be another little piece of the truth. That and AJ might have texted her earlier that day. >> This has aspirin. >> No, just aspirin. Okay. All right. >> All right. um you don't take any other kind of pain medication or anything. All right. All right. I'm going to ask you to feel exercises. Okay. If I can't get you ahead and put your feet together, side to side all the way together. Put your toes together for me. All right. Put your heels there. You go. Hands down by your sides at all times. All right. All right. All right. Remember, you going to look at your feet. Can I step out loud so I can hear it? Don't stop until you complete the exercise. Do you understand? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Whenever you're ready, look at your feet for me. The next several minutes matter more than they seem. Field sobriety exercises are designed to strip away emotion and reduce the encounter to divided attention, balance, memory, and compliance under stress. the story moving from embarrassment and explanation to measurable performance. And that is usually where a suspect's version of events becomes much harder to protect. >> Okay. Could you stand right here for me? Just face the headlights my patrol car for me. Okay. All right. At what point do you think I say the main officer we're hearing his voice right now. So at what point do you think he stopped believing her? Like at what point in her story was he like, "Okay, girl." [laughter] >> What I want you to do, okay, go ahead and put your feet together, side by side, heels, just face heads my patrol car. Put your feet together, side by side, heels and toes together. All right, put your hands down by your sides at all times. When I tell you to and not tell you tell you to, you're going to raise one foot just like this. Approximately 6 in off the ground, keeping your foot as parallel to the ground as you get it and both knees straight. You're going to look at that raised foot. You're going to count 1,00 1, 1,002, 1,00 3. Continue as I tell you to stop. If you put your foot down, simply pick it back up again where you left off. Do you understand the instructions? Do you understand the demonstration? Yes. Okay. Remember, you're going to look at your race foot. Count out loud so I can hear it. Keep your hands at your sides at all times. Whenever you're ready, you may begin. >> 19 20. >> All right. Put your foot down. >> 22. >> There you go. All right. Get you step up in front of headlights. My patrol car right up there for me. Okay. All right. You are being placed under arrest for driving under the influence of an alcoholic beverage or any substance set forth in chapter 893. Under Florida law, you are required to submit the law to test your breath for the purpose of determining alcohol content. Will you submit to a breath test? Yes. Okay. Just stay right there for me. >> Once the arrest decision is made, the rest of the night becomes procedural. but not routine. An officer who understands exactly how a driving under the influence case is built is now moving through that same process as the accused transport, testing, inventory, paperwork, and the quiet realization that her job may already be gone before sunrise. >> All right. State requires a minimum two complete samples. >> Okay. If you're unable to provide that will be considered refusal. >> Sorry. All right. When the instrument's ready, I'm going to open up the mouthpiece, sticking the mouth piece in the end of the tube. You're going to wrap your lips around the other end of the tube. You're going to form a tight seal and you're going to blow. So, I tell you to stop. You have to blow approximately 5 to 6 seconds. The instrument's going to sound like if you're blowing properly. It's going to sound like a fire line. Okay. You need to keep that tone going. No, you got to blow it longer. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep Nope. Good. Keep going. Keep going. All right. Hold on. Take another breath for me. They can turn it down. >> This part is easy to tune out, but it is where interpretation starts giving way to numbers. Field sobriety can be argued. A completed breath sequence is harder to talk around. Local reporting later put McDonald's samples at.20 and.18, more than twice Florida's legal limit. And numbers like that do more than support an arrest. They define the case that follows. >> Not your driver's license. You know what ID? >> Not your driver's license. Your other ID cars. [groaning] Do you have it with you? >> I'm Sorry. >> In your car or is it on me? >> Is it in your car or on you? >> Okay. >> No car. I think I heard they got your >> By the end of the footage, the most important part of the story is no longer the crash itself. It is the contrast between what McDonald seems to want this night to be and what the evidence steadily turns it into. At first, there is confusion, fear, and just enough uncertainty to wonder whether officers are walking into a messy but explainable scene. But as the stop continues, the case starts building itself. Witnesses place her at the wreck. She is found hiding nearby. She admits drinking. She places herself alone in the car, and the testing phase removes whatever space was left for doubt. What makes this footage memorable is that it is also a professional collapse. Macdonald was not just any driver. She was a young officer still in the probationary stage of her career, arrested by her own agency and fired later the same day. She later entered a no contest plea to driving under the influence with property damage and received probation and state records later show she completed the standards commission probation or suspension process. So this is not just a viral body cam moment. It is a real example of how quickly one offduty decision can reshape a career or reputation and the way a department is forced to police one of its own. And that may be the lasting question here. Was this simply panic from someone who knew she had made a catastrophic mistake? Or does the footage show something deeper about how fast training, judgment, and self-control can disappear once alcohol and fear take over? If you have watched this far, let me know where you think the moment of no return really was the drive away from the bar, the decision to hide, or the first admission that made the rest inevitable. If you want more body cam breakdowns that focus on the story behind the footage, stay with the channel. I messed up and put a mouthful of nerds in my mouth before I realized how close we were to the end. Hold on. Okay, Omar, to your point, I think they showed the car in the beginning, but they just didn't like maybe highlight it, but I thought I saw it at the beginning of the footage. Yeah, she ruined her career. Well, that's You know what? Thank god she didn't have a lot of time on there to make other people's lives miserable because she ready to lie. I heard, sorry y'all, I heard somebody say a scared cop is a dangerous cop. And the way she said because of my size, I'm like, you shouldn't be on the police force then. You shouldn't. I'mma stop talking though because I don't like when I hear people food in people's mouths and now I hear obviously food in my mouth. So y'all have a good good day. I may be back for um our trigger warning body cams. We shall see. All right. Sorry y'all. Bye. [clears throat] [laughter] >> [music] >> Yeah. Yeah. [music] >> Come on. Come on. >> Hit play. Grab the couch. Got your name on the [music] screen. You send me that link. I say, "Girl, let me see." >> Yeah. You laugh. I lean in [music] close. >> We already know the vibe. One more. One more take. Now we both [music] from the first frame to the last frame. >> We don't miss a thing. >> If it's funny, if it's [music] wild, baby, let it rain. >> Slide over. >> I got you. [music] >> Don't skip ahead. >> Tonight. >> We lock into the moment >> and we ride that way. Trending at some point we watch it together. 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