I've been taking my time [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] thank you [Music] okay sound test first y'all if you hear my little poor baby hacking in the back she had to go to the vet today it has been a crazy day today and I well I'll say it out loud now since I already see it but hey Linda gamble hey beautiful Choice hi my 41 fit I thought it was fitting we should have Nene start off as our gift because she is you know it's mostly about her tonight but yes okay let me get her get her off of there hopefully the next thing is in there y'all I'm hanging on today but this was something that you know how you need things to help you get your mind off of stuff so this came at the right time for real for real it really really did um okay oh she's doing better she's got her little cone on and oh man it was crazy we got to monitor her tonight so hopefully she does okay then she'll go back in the morning to get checked out and hopefully that's it it's my little princess oh man okay okay um so first I'll start off because I I want to make sure okay so first of all say thank you I want to thank my Trinity tribe people my patreon Mary Kelly Arlita Jordan Sylvia p and fond Dugan which is my 41 fit and my YouTube Members Choice Jazzy J for life and toot Latrice so I just want to thank y'all to Latrice just joined it had to be this morning late last night too I saw it though I said let me update my slide laughs well okay I'll get started and I'll backtrack if needed but um I don't want to keep anybody waiting um okay so y'all know well now it's two days we only have two days left and we will have Choice speaking about um you know dealing with lupus her personal story and also giving some guidance about starting non-profits and you know just offering her wisdom and her experience so I'm very excited it is coming up it is coming up it's getting closer and I'm so happy for her I'm too happy for my girl okay and I'm saying this for the record and I know I'm starting uh early so I know not everybody might see it but if y'all play it back I hope y'all hear this um okay let me see I had wrote it out hold on y'all let me let me exit out of here real fast make sure I don't mess up my words one second let me put it uh where do I want to put you could you over here bring that back up okay okay all right y'all so it was I don't I don't even know if it was on purpose but it was brought to my attention last night okay so there's some images that I created on our last live uh and it was like you know I'll be talking about the Scots and stuff right well I had the image and it had my watermark on it right and I okay first of all I'm gonna read how I wrote it okay so I know it's YouTubers and content creators we all use each other's images and you know we just hope we give each other credit and that's that's kind of is what it is because we're really using public stuff anyway so you know we're kind of all sharing out here so I do not have a problem with that um and this is not a subliminal message to anyone because I don't even know who did it and I don't even want to know this um what I'm asking for is if you use one of my images especially because it has my watermark on it don't don't add inflammatory and accusatory words on top of the image because now it looks like I said that and I did not say that like not on the the label when I'm making a statement you know of course then I can give my alleges and my opinion stuff like that so please do not put accusatory words if it's gonna be association with my Watermark like that's that no please don't do that because I would not do that to y'all because it kind of looks like it came from me and that's not where it came from um I don't want to associate my watermark with things I didn't do I'm very particular about how I choose to present information is for a reason because you know we all have different personalities so I'm not I'm not on a hundred like that because I can't I don't I try not to give out the smoke that I can't take back so that's why I'm I'm not like that um if someone looks at a certain image uh I'm sorry so now if someone looks at the image that I just saw a couple days ago with my watermark on it it's gonna look like I put the extra seasoning on it and I just want to say I already seasoned my images with saturates and Lowry I don't need additional seasoning especially if it's gonna have my watermark on it so my disclaimer is if you reuse and repurpose an image that has my watermark on it or that I created to fit your story you're responsible for that outcome I did not do that I'm not responsible for anyone else's actions and again this is not a subliminal message I'm just saying because I don't even know who did it but I saw it and I was so Disturbed as soon as I saw it because I'm like I don't do that I'm really looking forward to this discussion Choice make sure we have your cash out yep I'm gonna have it on the ticker 41 fit or PayPal so we can pass around the collection plate for the gyms you're gonna drive yes yes yes yes yes I'm gonna have her on the ticker you know we gotta take care of our girl thank you yes thank y'all so much okay um so that's my disclaimer so I'm gonna have to kind of give a shorter version of that on my moving forward type of lives you know what I mean because I know uh yeah everybody's not gonna catch it especially at the beginning of a live it's usually kind of hard to catch so I will give it again later uh on another live I ain't gonna bore y'all and do it again um okay y'all so I was in Black Titanics live earlier today and boy that I need what she was saying because when I tell you you try not to let it get to you but you start second guessing yourself on things that's what happened I was second guessing myself right so black Titanic I'm gonna play what she said I had I clipped some out because I ain't gonna play the whole thing um hers was coming from obviously her personal angle but it spoke to me so much I had to say okay well I gotta share um so I'm gonna play to y'all what black Titanic was saying and and what I'll have to say is on how she's neutral and how she just you know goes to different content creators that's me I because I can't I I chose to come in in a certain way and I can't be doing that's why we say no no Creator criticism over here content creator criticism because I I can't maintain that energy okay so I'm gonna play Black Titanic real fast this is what she had to say and I was like well that's what I needed to hear it was time it was the right time for me to hear it okay let me take myself out all right I'm supposed to be somebody said that uh yeah you know I I saw I saw black Titanic on this platform I was wondering what was she doing over there what the hell was you doing over there I have my Ministry that I do I have my Ministry that God calls me to do he didn't tell me just to stay in one one little click or teach black history to one little click or one little group of people my people are scattered all over the United States all over the world they're just not scattered right here in this clip so don't check me about wet platform I'm on I'll be doing my Ministry that God calls me to do that's what I'll be doing what you be doing why you on why you over there you had to be over there to see me and you know who you are too on check me and then once I get on platform with thousands of people I don't know why you said it trying to mess up my name because you feel like I should be in a certain spot I should just teach black history in a certain spot when I'm over there on those spots I'm listening I'm listening oh yeah it gets a little rough over there you get people over there that you may feel that is total ignorant but these people deserve to be lifted up too they deserve to know they black history too they deserve to know who they are that's why I have to shut many people out it's easy to second guess yourself and the reason you feel driven to speak about certain things I think I needed this message and then and then my problem was you on this platform trying to start something about my character my character name the number trying to get my people but you over there with thousands of people over there on that platform trying to start something about my character and who I am I ain't did nothing to nobody tired of being here by the damn victim okay thank you Trinity about to learn about this YouTube streak I'm still learning y'all but I I got stronger I don't cry no more like when I first came home they used to make me cry I don't cry no more I'm getting stronger I'm just gonna take up for myself and do what God told me to do now I know how Melody feel when she said God said go God say go and she have to shut out all these different people in her ears she can't do or be like what you want me to be I even heard people saying that she trying to uh uh drag up this I just anyway let me keep it going Just Gonna Keep it going I'm all right y'all I'm all right I got it off my chest now but I don't want nobody checking me I ain't in no little clip okay that is from the Elder's mouth to my ears and thank you 41 fit because that's that's what I'm hoping we have over here Foster peace in a safe space so we can just we can discuss a lot of things like if if I didn't want to discuss mess I wouldn't cover the Scots and stuff like that but um uh I just want to talk with y'all though in a healthy space and you know like but I don't want to comfort anybody else on the platform I just want to talk about the things talk about the mess together and maybe see some things maybe I didn't see her I'll tell you something you didn't see and we go from there but uh between the content creators I don't want that that's not what I want now smoke from the Scots and stuff that's different in a way as long as I'm doing it under the umbrella of you know nothing I'm not trying to get like uh well you know y'all I'll be I'm careful with my words so you know what I mean I'm here for the mess basically just not the conflict between content creators and black Titanic I mean she said the best she said don't come over here checking me about where I'm where I'm at the hot jariah Fuller greetings all black Titanic no word could mess with you oh you're so beautiful heart yes yes yes yes yes and you are yeah yes and I I didn't know how much I needed to hear that I did not know you don't realize what be seeping in on you and making you second guess yourself and the only way I could really show y'all what I was talking about was to actually let it come from her mouth and when I tell you that hit me so hard yep there's room for everyone's gift because we present things differently that's just different reasons that we're here so yes that's where I'm coming from so yes you probably would see me on one person's platform that has a conflict with another person I'm not gonna try to bring that person up to start something I just want to be in there to gather the data talk about it with the person's platform I'm on and then you know come talk about it here and just keep it moving you know we we all are recycling certain information but I think that's why reaction channels are so big because you you you tend to go listen to people you sometimes you disagree with or you agree with because you like well did I catch that right I wonder what such and such things about that you know that's just how it is that's why reaction channels are so big so yeah I'm gonna be everywhere y'all I like to I like to float around like a butterfly you know like just I just want to talk about stuff so and that's why I came in and so yeah I don't wanna I don't I don't wanna I don't wanna do all that other stuff the odd Choice got the Emojis yes yes yes yes okay so that's that's the tone I hope y'all get when y'all come over here that's that's all I'm saying okay and then for what we've been waiting for hopefully succeeding coming here because I already know she's gonna attack my team twirl and it's okay you know because Nene no I ain't never taken away from NeNe I was talking about team tutorial against uh of course like Marlo and them and I can love both I can love Nene and team 12 so with succeed and come in here she's gonna be a hoot and a half I'm sure but we're gonna go over what happened on that interview I I tried to get through as many notes to keep it organized and and I got to a good chunk of it but y'all remind me for anything I didn't get to but I got a lot of it in pretty good order I have some great notes y'all okay all right so how do I want to do this I should have printed my notes out this is our leader oh okay my granddaughter did something to the computer wish I knew how to fix it you have to live and you must learn yes yes our leader hey Arlita our lead is one of my patrons too foreign it's true we are stronger together also you never know who the message comes from or where you need to be given a message ain't that right Ladon and you were in there too Ladon man it was it was I needed it I really did and somebody else said I needed to hear this too and I'm sure some other people that didn't type it but they also needed to hear it as well like they felt the same but just you know just didn't type it in there stuff be coming up when it's supposed to come it comes on time oh my goodness okay so I'm gonna try to remember if I see Jiraiya I'm actually seeing Arleta our leader Nene has selective memory oh 41 fit come on in you definitely got a feeling what okay cause we about to go over her talking points so I'm gonna try to keep an eye on the chat y'all let me do this too I'm gonna go ahead and print this out like I was supposed to do that's what I was supposed to do because that's what I'm about to get myself in trouble now hold on because I think if I don't do it now I'm just gonna keep wishing I did do it that's what's gonna happen I'm gonna be like I should have just did it let me see ah okay yes I was gonna start printing well it's better to do it now than not do it at all and be wishing I did it so I can do my little y'all know I'll be doing my check marks over here so that way I can keep myself straight okay what are the topics y'all want to talk about while my notes are printing out because it's been so much did y'all see Bow Wow I was getting sued um he might not have done this one though a dad is suing um Bow Wow for his his ten-year-old daughter was supposedly got uh a feature from Bow Wow for three the Dad paid three thousand dollars to a cash app that supposedly belongs to Bow Wow okay um Bala said look I'm sorry that sound like a catfish thing to me um he was like everything I do that I get paid for goes through management which I'm sure because he said a lot of a lot of celebrity accounts get duplicated in this case I do more see that than anything um but I hope if that's not the case the guy has enough to prove his his side of the case but I do think somebody somebody might have been I don't know how long they was working him but I think it's it's working somebody might have been working at that if it's true Bow Wow is dead wrong Ladon yes yes he is and uh talking out loud she said Bow Wow needs to have a heart and just go ahead and do the feature and I was like I had two minds y'all two minds on this one one I was like he couldn't go and do that feature because how many people are asking a Bow Wow for a feature right but I said well the dad already opened up this lawsuit so if this really wasn't Bow Wow now you got me in litigation and that sucks and then how many times would we would he have to then do a feature because someone just opens up a bogus case on him you know like when does he turn from being kind about it to being taken advantage of so it's like I it's a lot of sides you can kind of be on on this one can't can't you track a cash out you can track it but if the person is using like a burner phone and it's just on the cash app account and they have it linked it to something that's more stable I feel like there's some ways they can get around um you're not really knowing who that cash app really went to because you can name your cash out name anything you want to so they can name it Shad Moss or or Bow Wow whatever they want to name it um so yeah I don't it just depends now for for the ones that do the um well I guess that's the whole point you mean law enforcement anyway they might can do some type of forensic Financial forensics and maybe honestly track where it went but if it's a newly created cash app account and a newly created in a burner phone and they don't move that money anytime soon I don't I don't know I don't know and I was and I and I'll take something back too I was like I said well if you do business through cash out you better have some really good paperwork I don't take that part back but at first I was like well who's doing business through Cash Out heck we all do business through cash out we're all depending on each other to hold up their end of the bargain you know most people not all all but you know most people use cash out to conduct business I've paid my last tech that way I paid for I don't know anything that way like I paid a lot of people a lot of small businesses through cash out so let me stop I was like let me stop because I have paid for stuff through cash up and y'all trying to what else is going on hold on let me check my subscribers they do be sending me stuff but y'all I'll be trying to catch up and I'll be behind I'll be so behind let me see here okay you know Carly Russell got two lawyers meanwhile um Jamie that's me was covering a woman that was uh she's she's still missing currently and her boyfriend was found unresponsive in her car like today or yesterday or something that story is crazy um for now I'm watching Jamie that's me but if I can kind of keep up I'll bring back better details than that but that's just a crazy story because I'll be like I said I'll be I'll be listening to everybody's stuff um let me see here that's something that'll happen with Peter Thomas again but I just see the title so I can't tell what he did okay I think all the pages are done printing but I'll see if y'all type anything else thank you all right all right y'all let's go through these events with NeNe Leakes and Carlos when I really start stumbling that means I didn't organize my notes anymore I got I got as far as I could go okay so oh succeeding I hope you have time I hope you come in here all right in 41 fit let me know when you hear the contradictory parts that you want to talk about too and um and I'll I'll drop the link to later on so you can actually say if you don't want to type all that um okay so we'll start off light so ninny says she hasn't watched season 15 or any of the seasons she hasn't been on but she's seen some clips so she has seen Clips um let me see here oh she said as far as I'm concerned they're all sitting in my house the house that I built and it seemed like it's tumbling down that's what she said about watching the the newer seasons Carlos said you've been my most requested guest oh and don't think don't think we're gonna take some time out to get we will take some time out to get into Carlos's behind because I we all saw the subliminal shots he was throwing at Melody I saw Sherry G's video I said yup I'm not crazy I think I saw chit chat video like yep I'm not crazy I'm so tired of him trying to boy you got bigger things to worry about you really really do and I guess you ain't got that paperwork yet because you look a little too relaxed to me I'm doing this because I want to cover NeNe I wish somebody else had interviewed her but I know they have a long standing history so yeah Carlos don't oh don't think we'd have forgot about you because we have not um okay so Nene's been his most requested guest which you can I can see in the numbers along that shoot alone that she was definitely I mean it's Nene and she said yes people requested me everywhere Carlos said he's asked her in the past but she said she's she wasn't ready at that time um okay then Carlos does what he does although it's some truth in there it's some truth in there but you know Carlos he gonna say this to he would have said this to Destiny if he was interviewing Destiny that's all I'm saying but for Nini there's it does apply he says the number one greatest Housewife of all time you built the Real Housewives franchise on your back on your eyelashes your fingernails and your lace front and at the end of the day and I'm gonna say this publicly there will not be a real housewives franchise if it wasn't for you building the house that we call the Real Housewives of Atlanta and I don't know if I have it in here but later uh she does talk about how Andy Cohen does back up that statement so it's not it's not just cause blowing smoke but he just does it all the time you know so we would be surprised but I got this because he said on your lace front this is because she built the Hat she built the foundation on her lace front y'all he is full of poo he sure is choice he sure is okay so Carlos then says what people don't know is that producers you're assigned a reality star I'm like at this point we do know that this this ain't new to um oh hold on y'all hold on one second okay y'all Mr oh I got one more treat for y'all oh my gosh I forgot to hold on y'all is it still on here is it on here y'all I got a troll in my house I have a true troll in my own house let me see did I save it or is it on the drive I'm gonna get it don't eat no don't even I got permission to show it but y'all Mr Trenton named himself trending right now in case y'all don't know right oh let me I might need to go through all right this is okay oh he named himself trending right now to copy my trending at some point name okay well you know how I got my intro and it goes I've been taking my time I've been taking my time he didn't made a video to show me instead of putting people I like he put the people I don't like in the video and he uh now this is his voice but it's not his real voice this is him playing at a voice because I want you to think I gotta walk around listening to him sounding like this all day but y'all I'm gonna play it for you real fast it's not you're gonna see a countdown but it's actually only about 40 seconds long or so it's not it's not as long as the countdown is y'all look this is my true troll y'all ready I'm gonna play it [Music] time will be taking the time will be taken [Music] [Music] all right [Music] tiger [Music] oh my God y'all my troll the troll the the call is coming from inside the house y'all give me my slide back up oh my gosh I forgot to put it on there to show y'all I have I have a two trolls so if y'all just saw that video out of context that was not my intro that is my my husband made a stupid intro because he chose me like this is really what I be going through so that was not my real intro and he named himself Trinity right now okay I'm gonna get back to the Nene interview but I didn't want to forget to show y'all that and I appreciate y'all for being here early so you got to see it okay so Carlos said what people don't know is that's producers you're assigned to a reality star again yes we do know that by now we we know the formula for reality TV babe we got it but he said he was just he was assigned to Deshawn Snow and Nene now that I did not know I didn't I didn't I didn't uh I did not know that thank you Ladawn thank you yeah nephew ain't right choice um he said he and Nene instantly clicked okay um he did a good job too you know why he did a good job Ladon because he actually did help me create the original so he was already locked and loaded to do a spoof I have to give him credit he did make my original um he's he's my person to kind of Polish some things up sometimes um okay so Carlos asked Nene did you know that season that this show was going to be the biggest Bravo show that has ever been on the network and that she would be the biggest star that Bravo has ever seen and then he says no I didn't know I didn't even know what we were doing and I don't think a lot of us did we were just kind of like floating around I remember like three weeks into filming I said to myself at home I just feel like I'm trying so hard and pushing and not being myself excuse me myself uh she said now she she had realized she's gonna go on camera be herself um and that's when everything took a turn she said it was like three weeks into shooting um let's see sometimes she repeated herself so I'm trying not to repeat as well over here because y'all know what she said she said okay she said I'm just gonna be NeNe Leakes 100 just act like I act talk like uh talk the way I talk you know do the stuff do stuff the way I do it and that's the only way it's gonna work and she said I just came in and started doing it and Carlos asked her were you afraid that people would call you ghetto Nene said I was never afraid of that it was just I I felt like I didn't have the Flair that some of the other girls had uh she said obviously these girls like DeShawn snow was living in a 15 000 square foot mansion and I'm living in my little 5 000 square foot place and she said at the time charade was in a 12 000 square foot house and Carlos said with a broken gate and then he said yes with a broken gate oh let's see and then Nene said uh Kim Zolciak was living off a big papa at the time with all of her bracelets on and she said dang what am I gonna do I just and I just decided I was going to be me Carlos says the first day I knew this show was a hit was when we were at charae's House filming for charae's birthday party and you arrived with Kim after changing clothes at the Shell gas station and he said we were filming and you walked up to get into the house and you got rejected from entering and you broke the fourth wall and said but I'm a housewife y'all see these cameras and the security guard was like I can't let you in look yeah oh and then charae had has recently of course admitted at some point she admitted that she purposefully left Nene off the list and we all knew everybody knew and Nene said of course she included new she was purposefully left off the list but Nene said that was probably probably the best thing she did was leave me off the list um like you said the show became huge from that moment forward but I always knew she purposefully left me off the list okay um oh one second y'all sorry y'all looking at the princess just checking on the princess okay so uh she said Nene said the question was why did Sheree leave me off the list that would be the question for me she said but I became bigger than ever so I appreciate it and then charae she said charade and I were really really good because we met before the cameras ever rolled she said I would hang out at her house Greg and I would go to the game with her and bought and she called him Bob Bob because that was the name for him was playing football at the time and she said I do feel like once I started on the show and stayed on the show she was on she was on and off the show for many seasons and the truth is I was the show and it felt like all of them just kind of turned against me our friendship just got lost in the mix she said but I think Sheree is fun when she wants to be she said we've had good times together she's a Capricorn I'm a Sagittarius we've always gotten along in the past before the cameras have started rolling and that's kind of sad like just think about and I know Nene wouldn't take it back all she's gained from this and charade probably wouldn't take back what she's gained from this either but wow I just wondered how they would have been had cameras never entered in the sense of their their friendship solely is what I'm looking at that's kind of sad um Carlos said back to season one did you feel like you started off being the underdog and Nene said I was the underdog the first season that's what she felt like um and I think that in the sense of her financial station I think that they probably did kind of remind Nene that she wasn't on their level financially at that time excuse me that is honestly what I feel like and Carlos said did you develop an ego after season one and Nene said I don't think so now here's the thing now well she said she don't think so maybe she didn't get an eagle after season one I don't know but somewhere in there Nene did get an ego okay now now come on now um she said I think people try to say ego when the cameras are watching you and all these people are pulling you apart every single day and you have no other choice but to be like oh my gosh they pulled apart my wig so now you're going to try to get another wig oh my gosh they pulled apart my makeup now you're going to get another uh the best makeup artist and then once you do all these things they say well you just uh come you've you've changed and she's like but y'all just put me completely apart um she said so I don't think there's an ego you just had to change I'm sorry you just learned how to act you learn what to say and what not to say and she said she's been working on herself Carlos asked when did you feel like this show was changing and I'm sorry when did you feel like this show was changing she said I think it started uh to change for season four for me she said season three is when Cynthia and Frazier came but whenever Kenya came that's what she thinks changed y'all know my team twirl I was oh I was struggling through this part but I said I sat and took it I took it y'all she said when we had disagreements they were real like not her and Kenya but the other ladies they were real and we didn't pretend like we had a boyfriend when we didn't have one oh shots fired shots fired all I'm saying is if that dude was hired or any of them were hired he needed to get a refund because they did not do their job properly that's all I'm saying she said and then I think once Kenya came on the show things started to it be more like let's create our storyline Nene came raw she did she did choice um let's see she said I think she said so Phaedra showed her pregnancy because she was pregnant and you know couldn't hide that but she said the whole time she wasn't sure how far along she was and she said there's you know her Fame one another one of her famous lines there's chicks in the hood who don't know who they're pregnant by but know how far along they are and she said also season three is when they start to get a bit of a check because the first two seasons uh they weren't really getting any money or they weren't getting nothing honey is what she said hey Shan girl you know that was true and the signed ndas I'm giving as much as I can give Shannon I'm giving some admittance okay that's all I got I boy I swear when succeeding coming here y'all gonna tag me but that's okay because I see 4150 41 50 contradicted herself on some of this stuff so I'm gonna have somebody to back me up on some of this but I am I am giving unbiased dialogue my feedback may be biased but the dialogue is unbiased um so Carlos asked her how much did you make your first season and then he said I think the first season of Housewives I made 10 000 total and that was including the 5 000 from going to the reunion and then Carlos said you and Cynthia didn't know each other in the beginning right and y'all were told to hang out with Cynthia to get to know her to bring her on the show don't let Shan start don't encourage her oh Nene said they told me they were looking at a new girl named Cynthia and they love for me to go out with her and I decided to go out to lunch or dinner with her and she said I remember Cynthia being super nervous like you know oh my God oh my God this is NeNe Leakes 41 feet do you believe that part I do want to know what you thought about that about Cynthia fangirling over Nene and she maybe did because I don't know if I knew of Cynthia prior to the show and I know I know she modeled but um I was like that's probably that could be true it could be I don't know like and maybe Cynthia was putting on and she didn't really care as much as she but she wanted to be on the show like it could be so many things Nene told a large truth though she was the realest he's had though Chan I I give you that Shane you're right we had we got to see a lot of what was really going on with Nene's life we really did so yes I agree Shan now I don't know how many times I'm gonna keep saying that but I agree with you on this one um Nene said when I met oh sorry okay so she met him Cynthia she said she'd never heard of Cynthia before she said the only supermodel she heard of was Naomi Tyra and she said maybe another couple of black women like Beverly it was a Beverly Jenkins what was Beverly's last name I I know the Beverly I got her face in my head um she said I didn't think that she was a she was housewife material I'm just being honest and because she was a little quiet she said I did like her before I met Peter though okay now 41 feet is this where she contradicted herself because I thought she kind of did take to Peter for a little bit because they had this little Rapport going and it's like it all got erased because you know Peter did mess up a lot of stuff at the end because I feel like they were okay for a little bit um so Nene said when I met Peter I thought oh too much too much he was extremely aggressive and to to me just really loud um and Carlos said if Cynthia was not with Peter Thomas would she have been a housewife Hollydale basley how are you welcome to the chat for real though me either Beverly Johnson thank you because I remember her from I know this well this is how I've seen her it was actually for more wig modeling than anything that that I knew Beverly but yeah welcome welcome um so Carlos said okay if Cynthia wasn't with Peter would she have been a housewife Nene said I don't think so she said not because Cynthia um well she said the Cynthia in front of the camera couldn't have been a housewife the Cynthia behind the camera could have been a housewife um she said I'm the one that told y'all Cynthia doesn't read honey she reads y'all remember that they never agreed though but they are still friends are they friends currently because it seemed like they don't really like each other more now but are maybe that's that's what I'm picturing from the last time I saw them having conflict because maybe they are cool again Shan I don't know but Nene needs to stay away from Peter because she got actual still maybe something to lose Peter don't manage Finance as well he always finesses allegedly finessing somebody for uh uh let me get my banner for you know for an investment I'm air quoting investment I I didn't see her on there as a cameo but unfortunately because I of her unfortunate victim story about Bill Cosby I didn't know she she encountered Bill Cosby I didn't know that much and um okay so Carla said when you saw oh no she said I'm okay she said she Cynthia Put Peter in his place many many times she said she would Cynthia would cuss Peter out she said uh Peter had to sleep at bar one overnight I believe Peter introduced her to the new guy oh yes Shan thank you for the connection yup yup yup you're right you are right so they had to be cool again for her to get it get involved with someone Peter introduced her to you are right I remember that's the connection thank you Shan thank y'all for your great memories um Carla said when you saw Peter were you ever attracted to him Nene said I was never attracted to Peter I think people wanted to think that Peter and I had some sort of Attraction but we never had anything if anything I was like I was more like I don't like you that's what Nene said oh yeah she played a pregnant woman that no no no that wasn't Beverly Johnson that was another girl of choice right I thought that was another different woman that was the one that she had to keep saying um milk or something he kept forcing her to say over and over to the line over and over and I think now I don't know this part if I'm getting these two women mixed up but her boyfriend thankfully was kind of on the set all the time with her but I don't know if that was Beverly Johnson I sure got another woman's face in my head of who I thought Beverly Johnson was because I remember the one that played the pregnant woman oh you know what he was he did that so she probably played a pregnant woman and the girl I'm thinking of played a pregnant woman duh it wasn't gonna be just one pregnant woman on the show so I take back everything I said Choice it still could have been two different women but both played pregnant women mm-hmm yeah we're pretty chill in here Liddell um hopefully you like it in here okay so Carlos said did you think Phaedra was good for the show starting out so he's just running down the list at this point uh Nene said no but it's not like they should listen to me she said I feel more connected to the show because it's my baby and I always wanted to see the show win I wanted to see it succeed and I wanted to see all of us make money in things Iman Iman okay yep okay um let me see so and she also said so when certain people started coming around the show I had my personal opinions about it and they were just my opinions that's what she said she said I didn't make the decisions um she said she had now didn't need to okay for now this might be one of where one of the places where she contradicted herself yes she was in his office his house office yep thank you Liddell I appreciate that thank you so much oh she said I had known Phaedra from back in Athens but on that one reunion didn't she say I don't recall you I don't remember you and phasers like we went to high school together in Athens and she was like now you was you was some years ahead of me or something Phaedra has said but Phaedra had already said we know each other from Athens and Nene pretended not to know her up until that reunion that's what I thought I remember um so that might be one of the things that 41 fit was talking about contradicting herself um and she said she felt some type of way about Phaedra coming on the show uh she and now Nene made this point she said well people have to understand at that time there was no basketball wise there was no love in hip-hop there was no Hollywood Exes there was no Braxtons she said we we were the first Black Ensemble in a very long time that had a hit television show and she said we were shooting all over Atlanta and she said everybody was talking about us from Ellen to Oprah to Gail she said everyone you can think of Carla said do you regret putting your family business on the show and then he said I'm a reality star I'm a TV personality and I try to give everything I can give and I just don't see another way of doing it but there are certain things that I do regret she said I regret disciplining my son on camera she said everybody was teasing him over and over you'd have lost your damn mind she's like you know that part she was like when I caught when I text you reply and I mean immediately y'all remember all that so she said she regrets that because he did get teeth like I always forget that someone else is going to repeat it to the actual person that happened to we repeated you know around our house to each other but yeah that has the suck as a kid for sure and she said that really hurt my son's feelings I don't want to hurt my children in the process of doing something I want to do so I wish I could take that moment back yes she said on the show she didn't know fei-fei and then she said she knew her she just didn't want her there thank you Shan my fat checker Shan is the resident fact Checker and legal eagle so she also said also when she and Greg went through their divorce she wished she hadn't put so much out there with that and that's another place where Nene shared way more of her reality than some others so yes that's where you have to give credit to Nene um Carla said Bryson was recently in the news with with I'm gonna say Finn Finn because I don't even know if I can say that word now um alleging that he got caught by the cops and said his name was Brent she's and he said how was Bryson doing yeah got the lip emojis Choice and then he said okay now this part look Bryson you gotta get your life together this is what I could tell she didn't probably helped him up I mean she said she helped him a lot but I can hear it in the way she's resigned Resolute and just waiting on him to want the healing um so hey Lee pepper how are you doing it's good to see you so Nene said I spoke to him on the phone I think he's doing okay he needs rehab he needs a lot of counseling this is Bryson she's talking about she said I have family members that are addicts and he's been struggling with it for years she said he's been in rehab for a couple times but he's relapsed and she said it's a real struggle as a mom just to watch it she said my hands are tied he's 31 years old he's an adult he has three beautiful children he has a wife she said it's not much that I can do she said I spent so much money on trying to get Bryson where he needs to be and she said she learned through counseling that he has to say I'm ready and as a mother she would never wash her hands of her child but she's also kind of numb because it's been happening for so many years oh no my power is out because we had storms yesterday but I've still been on the case for that story I will send you some stuff okay thank you Shan thank you thank you my legal eagle um let's see here I gotta make sure I do my check marks I already have forgot so Carlos said do you think Bryson being famous and dealing with being on television affected his ability to be the adult you wanted him to be did it contribute to the drug usage and then he said I don't think it helped but I wouldn't say it's the whole cause she said we started on TV when Bryson was 11 in 11th or 12th grade and Brent was in third grade and that's why I'm like I I can understand that saying that partially it probably contributed to how he turned out but he was kind of already in his ways in 11th and 12th grade anybody could turn it around at any point in their life but his trajectory looked a certain way by the time he was in 11th and 12th grade I'm sorry and that's only in my opinion because I'm not you know I know I'm like that but that's just outside looking in um okay let me see hey live laugh love live laugh love was taking it for the team he took one for the team uh talking out loud took one for the team too but live laugh love I'm gonna go back and listen to uh some of your lies that I couldn't catch um because she was she was live life love was going over Wanda's audio oh my gosh that is a chore and a half and so I like I said I'm gonna go to y'all Channel and see what y'all talking about with it uh and then y'all gonna hear some third and fourth hand from me because I oh I can't do that I cannot I can't stand her I what I stood it once but I can't uh no just thank you basically what I'm trying to say is thank you and yes choices using my Emojis I created live laugh love hey boo my fellow Leo we do not claim Wanda as a Leo um so Carlos said that being on TV affects your marriage to Greg girl I know I know I don't think the show did much harm for him if Brent was a wayward child then I would be understanding Shan may I introduce a piece of evidence to you on why I think it was harder for Bryson it was not the show though but Bryson is not Greg's biological son right and I think he may have had to see his mom come out the mud more than Brent got to see and so he took you can take a turn either way on when you kind of doing like that but I just want to say I think that's part of it I took out the important parts you did good live laugh love you did real good I missed it just got my phone charged no power look no but look it's circulating you got at least live laugh love you can hear all the goodness over there once you get once uh you know you go back over there to watch being a replay game she she did good she got she did get the good pieces and oh yeah they come with the membership the little emojis got your little spy kiss Emoji bright kiss emoji and I don't know if we call it space Emoji it was something with the purple Galaxy lips too um okay now when Carlos asked this question about did it did being on TV affect your marriage to Greg I highlighted it because I wanted to make sure I said it out loud although we already all caught it if y'all happen to see this in bold letters I said this is what the part where I think Carlos was trying to justify martel's actions via Nene and Greg and I hated it so this is where I feel like Carlos he just boy what is wrong with the you know what it don't even matter just keep just let us keep Gathering evidence let them keep having something against you that you keep encouraging a hostile work environment among other things allegedly also sexual harassment in the workplace so you keep on just keep on trying to justify your actions because you just keep digging the ditch and I I appreciate it yes I understand that Bryson was also more like Nene too and Brent is more reserved he is more reserved that's true that's true Chan hey Latoya Hogan how are you good to see you over here oh okay so uh so ninny said yes this did affect her hey to Latrice my new member I was shouting you out you're on the slot you're you are on the side uh I cannot get my words out you're on the slide to Latrice let me show you just so you see I did do it there you go you're on there I got you on there I said my girl came over here yes I hope you enjoy the art in the some of the behind the scenes things Martel was cheating before the show though he cheated before day one the marriage of him right Shan and but does it matter to Carlos no he just pulls out the stuff he wants to pull out of his behind because oh and we're gonna get to it because I got his words that he said it was making me mad as I was going over them [Music] he just says these things he's always on the toxic man's side I'm not saying all me inside is specifically the toxic men like he said he loves to listen to Kevin Samuels and the other ones that's like Kevin Samuels so yes yes Martel isn't the same caliber of a man that Greg is I agree live laugh love I definitely agree I was oh yes okay yes welcome little toy okay Anon is a group for family and friends of addicts they teach you how to step back until they are ready to get help oh thank you Lee pepper I'm sure some other people will honestly need that resource I don't even know okay so that's really good to know so Anon just so y'all if y'all can't see the text I'm gonna read it a little bit louder sorry Anon is a group for family and friends of addicts they teach you how to step back until they are ready to get help and and you do need support as the family too so that's really cool Greg was a real man Greg is what I consider a traditional man right right the good kind of traditional man right live laugh love not the ones that these dudes be trying to claim to be but what they really mean is just let me dog you out but I'ma call myself a traditional man thank you oh yes yes okay all right y'all so let's get into Nene's answer and Carlos's trying to trying to double down on what he was trying to ask so Nini said yes my husband was the breadwinner once I started to make more money than him he started looking at me sideways because I no longer had to ask him for money I no longer had to ask him for anything if I wanted to go and buy the latest bag I just go and buy the latest bag and so I think I pulled some of his strength or his power or something that's what Nene said okay um Carlos said I want to talk I can't oh my God I just want you to know as I'm reading this I do not take Carlos seriously I just want to talk about this interview okay so Carlos said I wanted to talk about how women who are the bread winner um I don't know what he was about to say I guess I didn't write my note down but he said Greg had a very hard time dealing with the fact that you know no longer had to ask permission for stuff and that not only you were able were you able to do your own thing you were able to do it on a grand scale do you think you emasculated him that's what he asked her hey Miss Main Event how are you doing it is good to see you good to see you we are we're we're we're chugging along in the interview but we still we got some things this Main Event Carlos is messy yes and Messi is the lightest of adjectives for Carlos Latoya that he's he's messy so Nene said I probably did unintentionally in in an answer to say did she emasculate Greg or not she said I probably did unintentionally and I think that's in each person's relationship about what you consider to have emasculated your partner because I don't I don't know because I I know what Carlos means by that's why that question makes me so mad too that's totally different because apparently Martel never took care of Mel right Melody said she just now understands what it feels like to feel safe and actually secure and someone's not putting your health at risk you know not putting your overall just safety in general at risk they actually take care of you they actually pull their weight you know so yeah Martel didn't have anything to strip away she was his shield he we see him he can't do anything on his own as soon as he do something on his own what did he do latch on to somebody else so they could do it and that's including both genders he latches on the Carlos he latched on to he tries to latch on to um Chris Fletcher the other dude that was surprised he didn't have his builder's license yet he he latches on and he of course Belinda latches on to Belinda he even latched on to coleslaw for what you know even if it was just his ego he needed to be fed because ain't nothing else you can really do but yeah he latches on he is not standing up on his own right now I can't with this fool Carlos was talking about Mel and Martel when he asked about emasculation right in this Main Event um I was saying how I we will not skip over the fact of what Carlos was really trying to ask because that's exactly what he was doing and I and I hate it because he's making a horrible point you don't make sense and you still on the wrong team which you don't matter it's okay we waiting for the law to get you now it don't even matter no more sharing that part right there yes okay um so Nini answered let's see she said and this is this is very true for a lot of women and honestly they you know they are with partners partners that love their partner when you come up to you're thinking you're trying to make and you are that is your intention you're trying to make life easier for both of you okay and I see that that's where her heart was coming from and I don't know but I I really liked it when she said I thought I was trying to make our life easier but it was taking roles away from him and with Greg being the more traditional man I I get that I'm glad he wasn't a Martel about it you know but again what did Martel actually do anyway um here go Carlos again here you go I may get a lot of flack for this but it's fine she's he said but I would love to get your opinion I do feel like when women start to make money Unfortunately they start to emasculate their man in a very subtle way and sometimes not intentionally every man wants to feel like you need them it's not wrong if it's coming from a different messenger but here's the thing you can be needed in a lot of ways and again Martel didn't do anything he he didn't have a builder's license he can't publicly speak now what pressure could he honestly take off of Melody like he he doesn't he didn't do anything and that's who he's arguing for he's not arguing for every man so you know no he's arguing for Martel bad boy bad boy right they coming for her oh they coming for you and I can't wait I'll tell y'all I'm oh I'm waiting on the alerts to come through I'm waiting oops that's not what I meant to do exactly choice um okay then Carlos said I know a person who purposely pretends like she doesn't know how to do certain things she makes and she makes more money than him and he said sometimes when a woman makes more money than her man they feel the need to take on this boss role I hate how you said it too I'm this boss roll like I'm a boss I'm independent and I Don't Need No Man people with good healthy relationships need each other we rely on each other okay and that's why we don't call the other one the head of the household either it's just these are these are the gaps you feel for me and these are the gaps I feel for you okay like that's what that that's a good healthy relationship and those gaps show up differently in people's relationships it's not one size fits all if it wasn't for male coleslaw wouldn't have anything right surprised when he had them braces Latoya she wouldn't have them braces that's why she somebody says why she can't get them out now and I agree yep Greg was an older man only a real man would stick around and never bash her he just worked to get her back he did Shan come with a faction when black Titanic saying bad boys I feel the F outright Miss Main Event can't nobody hit that soprano like black Titanic I got that gift for black Titanic because when she sang that song I said I gotta have it I have to have that gift in my pocket because it's got to come up we're gonna need it and it's so many alleged Crooks that we have to talk about all the time we're gonna use it all the time um okay let me see all right Nene said I didn't feel that way basically thankfully she did not just agree with everything Carlos was putting out there she was like I didn't feel that way thank goodness even if she had I still put no Credence towards what Carlos says but I'm just glad she didn't agree with him because he oh he would have ate that up he wanted it so bad uh Shan says I said that and that's why coleslaw mad she can't get them off okay Shannon okay yes she needs she needs male Dental uh funds again the funds that Martel was funneling from mail to her to get some braces off yep Shane you were right you called it I never had thought about that but it's so true um Carlos said okay we're kind of getting out of the area now of Carlos trying to throw the subliminals about Melody thank goodness but yes we all saw it if we have followed love in marriage Huntsville we knew exactly what Carlos was doing when he was asking that line of questioning okay so we move on to the part where Nene and Greg got a divorce he said when you were going through the divorce with Greg what was going through your mind and let's see uh Nene said people had no idea that Greg just like Cynthia could really gather you and get you really together and then turn right around and smile she said he was very nice nasty when he wanted to be she said I felt I had to show Greg and teach him a lesson and the only lesson that Greg was going to get was for me to divorce him and I was going to have to carry it all the way all the way through sorry and when I carried it all the way through I would never forget Greg called me on the phone and he said you divorced me you be misappropriation of funds again yes yes that's exactly sham misappropriation of funds um Carlos said after the divorce you started dating John and then he said yes I actually talked to John last night and she said John heard what happened to Bryce Bryson and I just wanted he said I just want you to know that I will put Bryson in the rehab center in New York and I will pay for it um she said Lamar Odom also called her and said he would take Bryson right away and send him to a place uh where he has a rehab uh facility now I'm like I don't know because I think I think they still working with Lamar Odom so I don't know if I take I don't know about that program for sure I don't know what organization he was talking about so this is not on the organization but I'm just saying Lamar Odom don't seem I don't know he don't fully seem like a recovering addict yet to me I don't know for sure though um Carlos said do you still have the Rolex he gave you and then he said yep I actually wore it today I was like well well Carlos said a lot of people have said one of your famous lines is close your legs to marry men and people said you ended up opening your legs to one I was like God dog baby John was getting her together I loved him okay about I remember John but all I really remember is the Rolex and he just kind of had like a creepy smile to me Shan but if she if she liked it I loved it because she was the one that had to date him so um Nene said yes I was dating a man who was legally married going through a divorce like Kim and Big Papa and then some I don't know if it was Carlos that said I don't think big papa went through a divorce I'm not sure um okay okay yeah NeNe says she that big papa is back with his wife in Miami I believe Lamar has opened some facilities so they are just Investments yeah because you get that you get that funding funnel then that what state and probably Federal funding funneled in you know yeah I I agree Shane I don't know about I don't know about Lamar stuff um okay I think this is where my notes got like I didn't get to organize them as as I like to do most of our caucasian brother can come off like that oh got you Shane it's just that's just what it is I got you okay okay all right this is where now I just gotta sit up here and find the key points I'm looking for my keyboards she said her next relationship you can't talk to her unless you have a bag you gotta make what really I think she said make more than her John looked like him like he smell his hair smells like hair pomade Kim lied and said he was so were they lying about old boy well I don't know I I don't know about that big papa thing when Nene said they got that he got back with his ex so maybe he did get divorced and got back with the ex at a different time I don't know I don't be keeping up with the big papa thing because Kim could have been with anybody I really did not care what Kim had going on um she said her next relationship will be super private because that guy she was with that you know Peter introduced her to she said he loves the camera and and she didn't look like she enjoyed that fact you know and she said her next Place she'll be super private um of course the public pick the relationship apart let's see she said I don't know if he was using me for fame but he sure liked taking pictures and she said that was different because Greg never really would do that um she said I don't know if he was using me or not but she was grieving and they started out as friends and she kind of said that she almost claimed had to claim him because the public kept asking about seeing them out together and it was actually I think supposed to be more casual than that let's see uh of course she said no one would ever come close to her love for Greg Greg is the love of her life let's see [Music] she said in her shoes in her 20s and 30s and 40s with Greg she was growing with Greg okay Nene says she's not broke sorry y'all this is the jumble notes time I'm trying to pick out key words okay all right I might I'm gonna send the link because after this I know they left us on a cliffhanger which is about her suing Bravo I believe he was a rebound guy just make her feel good after such a huge loss I get it yup yup yup yeah cause they tried to tell her she did it too soon and it's like she wasn't getting married to the guy hey 41 fit that's okay that's okay I'm actually about to drop the link now um oh before I do before I do okay one more time because I have more people in here I am gonna play and I'm sorry it's only about a total of three minutes long so don't you know it's gonna be okay but I need to play this because more people in here about the whole what black Titanic said because I think I just think other people need to hear it so I'm playing it three minutes long hang in there with me then I'm dropping the link okay you telling me you know what um where I'm supposed to be somebody said that oh yeah you know I I saw I saw black Titanic on this platform I was wondering what was she doing over there what the hell was you doing over there I have my Ministry that I do I have my Ministry that God calls me to do he didn't tell me just to stay in one one little click or teach black history to one little click or one little group of people my people are scattered all over the United States all over the world they're just not scattered right here in this clip so don't check me about what platform I'm on I'll be doing my Ministry that God calls me to do that's what I'll be doing what you be doing why you on why you over there you have to be over there to see me and you know who you are too on check me and then once I get on platform with thousands of people I don't know why you said it trying to mess up my name because you feel like I should be in a certain spot I should just teach black history in a certain spot when I'm over there on the spots I'm listening I'm listening oh yeah it gets a little rough over there you get people over there that you may feel that is total ignorant but these people deserve to be lifted up to they deserve to know they black history too they deserve to know who they are that's why I have to shut many people out it's easy to second-guess yourself and the reason you feel driven to speak about certain things I think I needed this message and then and now my problem was you on this platform trying to start something about my character my character name did number trying to help my people but you over there with thousands of people over there on that platform trying to start something about my character and who I am I ain't did nothing nobody tired of being here by the damn victim okay thank you training we got a lot to learn about this YouTube street I'm still learning y'all but I I got stronger I don't cry no more like when I first came on they used to make me cry I don't cry no more I'm getting stronger I'm just gonna take up for myself and do what God told me to do now I know how Melody feel when she said God said go God say go and she have to shut out all these different people in her ears she can't do uh be like what you want me to be I even heard people saying that she's trying to uh uh drag up because I just anyway let me keep it going Just Gonna Keep it going I'm all right y'all I'm all right I got it off my chest now but I don't want nobody checking me I ain't in no little clip okay I'm bringing up Shan hey Shan hey y'all we all here without no power we had some big going zones out here let me tell you how special I feel right now but what are you what are you doing why you don't have power I'm sorry I mean to interrupt you um actually I'm where I was the other day I had them kids over so I had to clean up again so and then the power went out and I'm like oh shoot someone be sweating bullets so I'm taking it one half of a room at a time sit down and then start all over again but I was trying to catch up on some YouTube stuff because yesterday I didn't listen to nothing I didn't see nothing I don't know what was happening on here in these streets so now I'm like oh wow and I was trying last night I was trying to catch the the whole thing from the needy interview but I guess I didn't miss much because I thought it was longer than that but I caught most of it I guess it was a little longer I my notes were too jumbled and I didn't want to keep having dead air trying to figure out what the heck was going on with the rest of my notes because I had a I had an eventful day today so yeah I hope I caught if I didn't catch the key Point somebody will bring it up in the chat hopefully yeah my phone died so I was just like let me go and see and then I saw you live I was like oh shoot and then I was like oh my God but Mimi I the only reason I I started to dislike Nene a little bit but I started out liking her because I saw like she was more a traditional woman like the people I'm like the older women in my family were like Housewives like real housewives and that's why I started watching Atlanta and some of the housewives because I actually thought they were Housewives until we get to all this bringing in people that don't even not that's not even dating and I think that's why Kenya felt bad because she's like I'm on housewives and I'm not dating and that actually made me heard came on housewives made me dislike her because you know she from here so I'm like you know because I always try to ride with my people because we get no love by hearing the D so when I started watching I'm like oh yeah yeah but then there was a lot of stuff about her like I feel like with her mom and that situation like she knew her mom how she felt and out for the life of me I was trying to find out like why didn't her mom what was the issue now I don't know how true this is so we gonna say allegedly okay but allegedly her mom is uh JW you know what I mean religious wise uh JW I don't know if we can say stuff like that camera hold on oh okay I got you I got you yeah yeah come knock on your door yeah yeah them people and um she once and I I have a real good friend and once once you denounce them I guess they um they they they really like disown you yeah like don't talk to you don't nothing you are nothing to them they don't know you're no longer their child all of that so now I get it but I'm wondering at what point was she excommunicated or whatever because from my understanding at some point in your younger years you could just say hey I want out and most families that are in that religion they will not speak to you ever again now here recently they're getting a little bit more evolved to where they're not excommunicating you like that like that but the older ones still are they still haven't talked to family members and but the only family members like she was talking to her aunt that they will talk to us the ones that were never in so if you were in and got out like if you were my child we in this thing and then you say I don't want to be in this thing no more then I'm done with you period some of them don't do that but apparently she's a more strict one okay okay well okay so basically she's not in contact with her mom not at all okay nothing was it was it okay Miss main event we won't uh Shannon she's like she said she's speaking from outside looking in so we won't we won't Linger on the religion part I'm just trying to figure out her relationship with her mom so they're not no I was only saying that to say that's why and how she is how she is like I feel like she's scarred that scarred her as yeah like no uh Kenya because I didn't want to say what I was about to say about Kenya but I'll give you something oh yes Mom I'm sorry yeah okay okay because I know you team twirl so I had to clean it up you know I had to I had to let you understand why I'm coming from where I'm coming from because I agree with Nene like I really like I I'm not a Atlanta Watcher anymore I haven't watched in a long long time I'm like I haven't watched in a long season I and I started back watching when the hot dog man went there again because he's from here so I'm like let me see this hot dog man what he all about but then I was like stop watching again like that ain't nothing he is a dog let me stop so I started back watching this season and I'm gonna tell you why the real reason why I started watching it was to watch them kick Martell off the show like I like that reason okay well I get I get that hey live laugh love hey how are you hey Chad hey um Shan I don't know if you caught um or if you even listen to um Angela ye that used to be on The Breakfast Club Kenya was on there today oh I just got my phone powered back up like like not even an hour ago so yep Kenya was um She interviewed Kenya today and she was explaining you know the different things but she did talk about Martel oh shoot I'm gonna have to go watch [Laughter] yes she said that she wasn't you know trying to be a hater or anything you know she was coming to um you know basically woman to woman because she said in the past she's been accused of knowing things and not telling things or you know just being messy when it comes to the other you know other women's men or whoever they're dating or whatever so she said that she wanted to be up front and let you know Sheree know that you know Martel had tried to you know holler at her he had been in her inbox and things I guess you know other things that she knew about um him she wasn't trying to be messy she said so you know damned if I do them so don't and now I will give her grace on that because I think in my opinion seeing that whole thing like it's a couple times candy that's trying to produce the show it looked like to me like I agree in a couple instances and I feel like that's why candy was like oh pull it up oh this this like trying to but see that's the one thing like I'm not gonna say I don't like Kenya but she not my favorite no more but I'm gonna say I don't like candy on this show I feel like she doesn't represent her real self on this show and only because of you in anything no not even listening AJ was on there though she brought AJ some real stuff when she first first but she was shady she was she was being shady then too you know because I feel like she was the first reason that Nene and Kim broke up you know broke their their friendship she came in between that in my opinion huh yeah and I'll say I started when candy came on is when I started being like Nene calm down now I like you don't do this and and but by the time Nene got on Glee I was like oh she's actress Nene not our Housewives yeah and I think that was more because candy was trying to take her spot where she eventually did and that's what she wanted that's what but see what people don't realize is candy is that ambitious I don't think I ain't gonna say I don't in my opinion shall we say she came on like um the head you know I'm the baby worldwide you know all that so yeah like yep she did yeah so she came in hot like she was ready for it because I really like I was a Escape by her no scrubs called her writing stuff fan until she came on this show and I'm like for real girl like did you um she was doing those free um meet and greets and Nene was like oh my God you got security foreign did get along because I don't know I do I like her but how can you get along with somebody when they trying to take your spot because she came in like I'm already a millionaired to be the head honcho like I thought Nene was defeat being she got too defensive is what I think like yeah and she she just conquered and divided uh Mimi and Kim because even in that interview right there that she did with CK she said that her and Kim was the show you know from The Originals I will accept that as a theory candy I'm still out here for you but wait let me let me tell you this let me let me see if you will how you feel about this stuff tell me this I stopped watching because I was tired of watching Mama Joyce do what she was doing to Todd that that really turned me off as a married woman that turned me all the way off because I don't care what me and miles to get into or whatever we do can't nobody else treat them like that but me yes but the whole thing about it is at that point I feel like she was really not coming with the real because look at all this stuff that was going on with escape and everything else and we really didn't know until the other girls bring it out you know what I'm saying she was she been on this show for over a decade all the stuff that we knew when we found it out sounded like they admitted they was bullying her yeah but we didn't know nothing this is she on a reality show about her life if they're trying to bully you you're supposed to be letting us know this but isn't that about her that was about her current life when she wasn't with the group for those seasons no that's when she first came on because remember the the um all this stuff is fairly recent they say stuff ain't happening outside of the last decade no I got three four three seasons in maybe in addition to that what are you talking about the most recent Seasons because they was doing her like that from the time she joined the group which was well before Housewives but you know what Tamika said that they broke up because candy was sleeping with uh Jermaine daddy that didn't ever come out on the show no in the Box first and I had it was on on song they were they had that show on TV one and maybe unsung said you can't talk about it here because we supposed to make this our views over here for uh son that came out on the radio but if you wasn't in Atlanta yeah yeah you didn't know about it her group members they they ganged up on her but I understood what the the Latasha whatever the one that's uh I don't understand what she was saying you know like because you cannot tell me that candy wasn't getting special favors when she's dating Jermaine who is their you know producer you know and stuff like that so I think that caused a lot of friction as well because you can't okay that did not help yes I think that's kind of to where it was coming from but like you said before then and then that magnified it um yeah and I don't think candy was bullying them per se but I know she was getting some if you weren't getting no backdoor deals why you dating them like she that's kind of how you develop romantic feelings too you know that was her no I got one better for y'all wait wait wait wait and Rocky remember Rocky was instead of her first I feel like Tasha was so insecure that Rocky was interested in her first so that's probably what I started verified or at least to me it was verified he said it he said it okay okay well there we go yeah okay now miss Main Event okay I'm reach a comment but I have a rebuttal it says mckandy joined the house while she refused to go on tour with the group and wouldn't let them use the Escape name but Latasha was has always been a bitter Betty so it's like you basically have been trying to get me out of this group so I'm and Candy's always been about her the you know keeping the deals and the money straight and it's like if you're trying to tell me you know if y'all are trying to do this then if you if she can negotiate it she negotiated it because my thing is what made them signed that agreement because they could have fallen I mean his main event is right baby girl what because candy even said herself on the last show that when they came to her with it she said y'all can go but I ain't going and that's when they had to tour under the US escape and I don't think and see we don't know because Candy wants to give her us her real life over the last decade but I don't think that it was I believe candy was holding out but we don't really know the reason as to why so that could be taken as yes he was because without her you don't have that deep voice everybody [Laughter] let me stop bothering candy but I understand we got to miss it I agree I agree sorry no it's mostly a safe space and see this is what's making me mad because we totally off-script but she was she was busy then on housewives trying to become number one but now she have during the cash trips she's not showing up the stuff like candy is really not even why are y'all paying her Bravo because nobody's coming to watch candy and I will say that this season candy has not been able to go to a lot of things and if that's what everybody else will be held to doing then fair is fair that's all I got now that's it listen male was if mail could go down there to the canvas Beauty um 2.0 um event oh my gosh y'all yes she went she wins there's a picture that's photo proof girl she was that fourth person when we say it sounded like three to four people then that she must have been that fourth hand clap is late like you don't even get a place oh oh okay because I'm like did it happen I think it did it it's happened in July it might already happen I think it happened or is it this weekend because I know it was July 20th I'm waiting on somebody well I'm ready to talk about it somebody tell us what was going on so I can't really run all my power out trying to watch YouTube videos social media wait listen you're saying Mel was broke I know Mel not broke Maybe I might be reading the sentence wrong probably stormy broke because she charges sixty dollars broke for sure oh Lord if she could just scale back I know she didn't got herself into a robin allegedly Robin Peter the pay Paul's situation that's where I really in my heart believe that's why I believe you won't feel bad because she has to keep up on so many things but you keep digging a bigger hole too though as you do this somewhere you gotta uh all broke down and win okay okay yeah yeah oh okay I see yeah I agree Miss main event and take your goodie bag that she making the people pay for and go get it checked my lab tell us if it matches canvas Beauty she already got the black candy so you know right she she actually has access to a chemist we can get these results oh that was your post trending where you said she where she had did she ever mention the word again I don't know who me and male story is like that but I'm telling you a chemist is not sure what about whatever once a day or once every two days that chemist is is featured in her story she never had the baby now so baby she is back oh man she had that that bat of whatever was the mixture going on and then the oh man yep that's what happens though speak on what you know that's what you get you she saw me should have just been storming would have been better off keeping us guessing than she her actually responding to stuff yeah she's I believe her response and I was I was a fan uh-oh Shane actually accidentally dropped down I'm gonna put it when she said she didn't have any power so hopefully she'll be back okay I'll put it back down so miss Main Event oh there she go okay that was my internet acting up seeing the stormy Miss Main Event asked do you think canvas beauty products are white label yes yes with the two fingers up remember that like Marlene said when she went to court um with Mel and Martella after what they asked yes no I'm Sorry Miss Main Event it's so funny because story may have meant she had access to an Alibaba chemist and that's the actual store name I'm not trying to say anything that sounds deriving so it's actual you know those people it's like a whole it's like the eBay overseas it's called Alibaba and I think her chemist was over there in one of them vendors with Alibaba for real penny she's saying a penny of a jar special ingredients don't care I want to know what we now I honestly think Courtney was mixing something to do with canvas Beauty what do you think he was mixing when he had all that stuff on his hands because that's the only thing I'm like I'm not sure about the white label you think they adding something after they get the base maybe maybe he was trying to make the additive to make it last long because it was a powder it was a powder so I like that there maybe that's all I could think of for a powders probably okay y'all allegedly maybe diluting it too to spread it out yeah laughs I'm just saying oh my gosh y'all y'all saw how Courtney okay why do you okay this is getting off of NeNe real fast but when Courtney called stormy to tell her that stuff got messed up do y'all think he should have just waited till she finished that Expo because I'm like what can she do she didn't get to leave to go home that was a plan that was a plan um that was the plan to show how but see it backfired because you just show how unprepared you are exactly how organized you are because I know and just like I was telling you some of my side gigs is you always make sure you have a extra labels because if you mess up one or some get messed up you gotta have extra yeah right unless you can do without that specific number but you're sending those out so you trying to tell me you have the exact number with no leeway and you know that because she couldn't afford that extra prepare [Laughter] the exact number instead of like someone that is prepared has over what they expect in case but Trinity you just said it she robbing Peter to pay Paul you cannot afford that's true she can't wait that twenty dollars getting an extra 50 labels just in case something go bad because what if it don't go bad now we got 50 labels I ain't got nothing to do with but you up charging the people so much you should be able to eat up a hundred extra labels or 200 because if you if you big because see for me I feel like they were just trying to make it sound like they was Big Dog why would you have a massive um only you and two people are trying to fulfill you know that right there alone did not make any sense but what I was gonna say was they took the labels off and put them back on with um Gorilla Glue scraped it off with a razor blade and put it back all I thought was gorilla goose oh miss Main Event said when Courtney called stormy I thought this ninja is stupid calling about labels can let me say this okay first of all I told y'all Courtney is a box of rocks in my opinion he shouldn't be near stuff except to in his case I'm not it's just his case he should lift and place lift in places you're telling me that you couldn't run the Kinkos with a couple hundred dollars and get a hundred labels printed to put on those bottles without calling her she was talking about the 100 already but she shouldn't have the paper but y'all okay y'all know Courtney got kind of with the labels on the previous on a different episode when when that fake label manager was there then this black Titanic said he got his own shop in the same Plaza um but when he said when you get down to one or two labels you got to tell us how are you not automated what do you mean all right that doesn't make sense and one or two and why are you telling me at one or two you tell me at a hundred you tell me like 50. we producing large quantities that's the boxing Rock that's what I'm saying he shouldn't be touching stuff he got choice choice he's so silly [Music] I mean I can't believe it child I mean like who running this you need to be male friend why did you do that Mel could have helped you you see how she had her stuff organized and packed by herself by herself oh oh just as tired but guess who got that getting their orders getting notifications they orders being shipped out everybody I talk to and they didn't order last Christmas they sure did years ago I'm like this but that's the thing they they do y'all okay I'm gonna say do y'all think just in your opinion do you think that she uses the funding from the online orders to fulfill the big store orders of course so that's what we were talking about paying yourself a salary you know how we was online a salary don't be mixed co-mingling funds because that's when you get messed up you don't know what where money's going at yep yeah and see she don't understand that process because she never went to learn that right she wants to teach it but she wants to teach people how to scale that's like listening to Maurice who started out with a 25 credit score like come on child you can't teach me nothing because I bet you your credit score still ain't that much higher than what you said I bet you wow and all his business fail you need to leave a panel with the question right why is he on the field he should learn from Nene did y'all hear how much money they was paying her in the beginning right yeah she went from what 10 000 total to Parlay that thing he did she did it right and Miss Main Event says I've placed six orders with mail all bundles they all came on time and one is in transit now I ordered the mango strawberry exfoliating combo nice nice nice nice yeah and people are getting if they order a spell bundle from Stormy this is on Better Business Bureau they're getting partial of the bundle if they get anything at all and then she tells them no refunds because it was a sale like girl it's no refunds if you're not satisfied with the product possibly but you still got to give them the product first like you know what I do though as a as a as advice to everybody who purchases online like my daughter got me purchasing from the Alibaba girl like that's how I knew you was telling the truth because she's all on that stuff so when I purchased from them I make sure I use one of my cards that if you like get don't if you get something like I got something from and this was my last purchase from them and I was so mad because I ordered one thing and of course you got another and they got to come through customs and everything so they figure we us rich Americans just gonna say okay forget it no no sir I want my fifty dollars I don't know about nobody else so I in turn open up a claim with my credit card who gave me my money right back and then they investigated and then once the investigation was closed they said either they gonna charge you back or they gonna let you keep it they let me keep it because I sent pictures and everything tracking labels everything the boxer came out I had my evidence you got to have the evidence too for some cards because some people will dispute that what they sent you so I made sure when I cracked that thing open I left it right there and just started taking pictures that's right I am you know how yes I know so I just as soon as I crack that boy I'm like this is not what I ordered just and I took a picture of and and the screenshot the tracking information before it disappeared and see that's another thing that I do too when I order from these online places that's not something I know like I'm one of them people that's like and when something come up on Instagram or something like that like Oh I like that so if I go and order it I screen shoot I screen shoot the whole process while I'm ordering what I order everything and I screen shoot it as it tracks because most of the time it's coming from Hong Kong China somewhere in China somewhere so I tracked it all those because at the end of the day you're gonna need like their quote-unquote ups and all that stuff too to make it seem like you know what you talking about and this is the truth because you have to provide evidence so I will implore anybody that's buying that dude that kind of silly stuff like I do that they are using credit cards don't use your bank card and don't use um uh electronic checking always try to use a credit actual credit card because okay take longer to investigate like I had a bank that investigate a 900 payment well it was a scam um they changed the the um language in my PayPal and they and they tried to take 900 but they only end up getting like six and the last because it was 300 increments and the last three didn't go through it took that bank like 90 days to give me my money back so I unhooked all my um Banking and debit stuff and hooked up my credit card that way credit cards investigate much faster than actual brick and mortar Banks but also like Navy Federal and USAA they do a quicker investigation than our brick and mortars in our neighborhood yeah yeah I was using a brick and mortar in my neighborhood that's why I unconnected all that stuff and just put my credit card on there and you know who's the best credit card who does the best investors I know he gonna say I think because American Express they be on it they they did an investigation for one complaints in two weeks one time I was like thank you because you know y'all know how I do my investigations I'll be on it and I got some stuff for both of y'all too both of y'all the stuff I got for y'all I um I just I just like to tell people that because I haven't been scam so many times using my bank and take either take long to get my money back around the end of the day ain't nothing we could do about it because yeah overseas and I'm like so I learned from that like I had to get scammed to learn like it happens to everybody Sometimes some because you got to learn from somewhere so I'm telling people like if you can't afford to lose no money don't when you're doing over anything that's not normal normal and even a normal stuff like I started doing it with Nike and different stuff like that because sometimes they get beside themselves too so I just make sure that we we on the up and up with all that because you just gotta know where to go and how to do it and maybe I I gotta go to miss the juice radio channel because I watch her I'm totally off kill and subject and I hope you don't mind me man a man's mentioning it but she gets some excellent advice as far as Financial stuff go because that's how I operate and my husband you might need to open a YouTube channel and start doing some advice because my financial information is Bomb I swear what but one second hey black Titanic you didn't announce it so the fans could all come to support oh black Titanic I tried I tried you know the notifications be playing sometimes thank you for coming in black Titanic I played I played uh I took a clip of your life today and played it because I'm telling you when you you inspired me about standing you know you said I want to be the victim no more and uh and you know like don't check me I'ma be wherever I'm led to be and I just want you to know I clicked that to put it on here because I felt that I felt it real heavy great teacher she's an awesome teacher yeah but no any like that Shan if you want to give the name one more time because stuff like that I think everybody likes to have those kind of resources the juice radio in Monday Monday I believe money money Monday is Monday is money Monday and she does she talked about bankruptcies she also did a segment on um what's that when people move into people's houses squatting she does some wonderful stuff but people should just I don't know she she's just she's a small Channel but I love her stuff like she is very she informative she give a wide variety of stuff she's just she's a YouTube channel yeah the juice right the juice radio okay and you I see her a lot on um also I don't I hope you don't mind the gray hair Diva Channel and Mims This Channel like okay that's where I call her from so and I just started watching her and she's an awesome lady and she also did that interview with uh Tamika Scott Tamika and Tasha Scott daddy the first one okay oh look okay yeah yeah okay I put the link to her channel in the chat and thank you choice for dropping black Titanic's link too yeah I just I love I'm like I didn't know my husband was more of a YouTube fan and I was I've only been doing the YouTube dig for a couple years but he been I just like oh you're always on YouTube then now he's like yo you're on YouTube because I laughs why you ain't got a lot of stuff on YouTube like anything you want you can find YouTube like anything like yeah usually I YouTube and Google they like my best friends [Laughter] okay y'all is there anything else with either Nene and Carlos or Huntsville stuff oh yeah live look what what how do you say it Lydia didn't you call Nene the side piece the other day someone in my chat said that but they were probably saying that you know the guy that she was just stating that she was talking about love to take the pictures and all that I forgot his name they were probably saying that because of that yeah probably because right before that somebody said uh Fantasia and you know Fantasia had that situation where the lady um was suing yeah to her and you know that old boy was trying um wife was trying to sue Nene yep yeah and I always thought that was something straight because it never went nowhere but I was wondering if because I was going to take it back to Nene because I was waiting for um him to ask Nene when and how did she actually meet Greg so I had Google I Googled it and I came with that apparently he had just divorced his wife when he met her yeah the older kid Mama yeah that's when he met her so I was trying to investigate and see if it was any overlap that's what I was that's what I was wondering if they were talking about y'all could have known that because I would have asked because it was some older women in my chat that you know they was talking about Diane Carol and Diana Ross I was like okay now I do remember Diane Carroll she wasn't in the fair with Sidney Poitier yeah [Music] but that's what I thought they were talking about I'm gonna have to go back and ask them yeah I was wondering that because I was trying to figure out because I was looking for um Housewives when the kids came home I don't know if y'all remember it because I you know I'm I go way back with Atlanta when the older kids came on and how they was talking about they didn't like her at first now they loved her so I was trying to figure out because at first he was trying to say that she took grads from them so I didn't understand yeah Titanic um just dropped some she says Greg older kids blame Nene for their dad's divorce allegedly wow okay see I knew it I knew I had heard something y'all doing good good look I wish you had a came earlier so I could just take my beating at once I'm here look go ahead famous words from Eartha Kitt I'm here yeah Marcus [Laughter] we have to agree to disagree on some points but um okay so the one that they really got me on it wasn't even Kenya it was candy spot yeah um this main event was really in here with it but the panel which is right now I said she woke up um Kim and Nene's relationship because yeah it's a divide and conquer she did because and that that whole song thing and that's why I don't feel so sorry for her when don't be tidy for the party we need the one remember Nene was singing when she was at Kim's house she said right she sure did and she's on the hook yep and that's why candy didn't get paid exactly because you never get paid when you play dirty huh they they they said they reminded me I said we agreeing to disagree on most of it the one I finally conceded on yes that candy isn't able to show up to a lot of the things this season and if they do expect the other Housewives to do it I I see why they're saying candy you know isn't able to be a housewife if she can't do the things they're doing correct because that's the same problem they had with Kim and Candy had a problem with that with Kim she was the one who was very you never show up in anything when they were at that restaurant [Music] yeah they all they on Candy choice they own her today and say when the ladies reminded you of the song you know I'm still marinating well I remember the song they didn't remind me of the song but they were bringing up points about how how candy tried to come well they did say the song but we didn't talk about how she shouldn't have gotten paid for the phone because of what she did we didn't go that far I think oh well I said I didn't feel sorry for her okay sorry it didn't feel sorry for her sorry right because you know um then Kim was like one Nene made up that so let's so since you know Candy is a person that wants to get paid and she believes in Creative content and she knows wrote those words if she expects to get paid for her words I just want you to know succeeding how much I'm willing to provide an equal platform because I waited on you to come on here to do this on her way home from work she must not know what's happening what's up hey Troy I couldn't get off them hey Tony hey first of all how's Dad doing Dad is doing good how's Mom Robin yesterday first of all let me say hi to all y'all shame my girl thank you live laugh love I come I love coming to your your yes thank you right at home for real for real you be having those little positive quotes too I'll be trying to be making you feel good about yourself that's what I'm saying we can't never take you nowhere and just show your natural behind that's the stuff I'll be talking about hold on my Titanic is adding fuel to the fire but I'm gonna read it though black Titanic okay she said y'all know Riley is an outside baby yeah they work their way through the side baby and the cheating allegedly allegedly and then remember they brought block on the show yes she didn't know and Candy didn't know yeah first of all uh yeah I I look I have to I have to roll with candy because we we with that 50 pound behind so I got to roll with my girl you can't you cannot not you cannot listen to just kicking without her voice in there I'm just sorry when she came on Real Housewives and she was I fly above all the drama did we like that no no no no no no there's a lot of songs that I don't like let me put that out there there's a lot of songs that I don't like right that Kenny has done but I will say this the difference when candy came out and I'm not saying that she didn't come up maybe it's bullied to some people I'm not take I'm not saying that but she came with her own fan base I don't agree because a lot I think we was already there though I think we was already there because I was already there I was a candy fan yeah what I'm saying because she came with you yo she came with she she was scratching on your mic something scratching okay so we knew her from Escape I Didn't Know Her Like I didn't know I mean I did you know because the group but I didn't know like her name did not mean I had to Google her like a lot of people did you know what that's what I'm saying we can't take you nowhere but now if you said SWV oh s yeah I've seen them live yeah you know and I'm you know there's there's just groups and women that they have their songs are just uh Universal and they're gonna always grow across you know generations and that's like Michelle Lane oh yes oh yeah you like Titanic Shantae Shantae Moore bad girl you know and they they all have hits but I have a little a little something big about Diana Ross and what you guys are standing in the chat is so true about her Diana Ross was a sneaky link with a whole bunch oh she was but let me tell you what she did and I don't know if you guys I don't know Shane you may remember this like do you remember when Wiz first came out yeah yeah he was behind her back and they were saying that's why she she do that's why Jeffrey Daniels of Charlotte Moore divorced up because they said that Stephanie was was wasn't pretty and down yeah she have had some iconic moments and she have sold out all kinds of things yeah I have a friend that that runs a uh a a gay male club and like the most people that oh yeah those female impersonators it's Diana Ross we had one here oh yeah but you know and I'm just saying with her she she did do a lot of things in the background to a lot of people that's true yeah but starting with her own group my honorable black Titanic's message I saw her she said was she smart and she hires people from the hood what candy did was she got someone smart which is Don Juan and she got it tomorrow you know what I'm gonna ride with you on that because dumb one is a marketing genius phenomenal and I don't care you know and here's my thing and I tell them I tell my homegirl this all the time I'm a ride or die girl with you now if I come up and I know you did wrong and some stuff kicking off what you you ain't gonna do is what about my girl whatever she stating just what it is now we get in the car the first thing I'm saying you know dogs on well you get in front of him we are united friends that's that's just what it is yeah and that's how he is about that he is um Mama Joyce disrespect Karma's just to those stuff like this I don't care if I love my husband let me tell you something I like him been married to him for a long time and I still like him that's a big difference you can be married to somebody and just love them and not like them that's a whole different scenario his mama can't come at him wrong not in my house you can be wrong at your you can be over there in your house wrong one one second choice Miss main event thank you for coming go yeah go finish your paper I'm so glad you came it's a big name thank you and yeah and black Titanic said I knew all of them The Supremes before they got to be Stars they are from Brewster project Detroit and we live next door so I came down back in the 60s you know what oh my God this black Titanic probably know my people she is a celebrity like for real for real like yes I really do but what you know like I'm saying with with Diana Ross she did that stuff to them people she did like I said like and like I said you my girl we out together we lead together we coming home together that's how we were that's it that's all you don't have to like it but that's what it is yes I do feel that so don when she brought Don in that's when things because when we saw I will say that and Don wasn't mad about he would tell his tell her mother she was wrong too oh he would but she doesn't really let him get in those conversations yeah she didn't let him loose you could tell she didn't let Don Juan loose on Mama Joyce no because she made when she let him come that Mama Joyce come out to Carmen like that I just wanted I wanted to walk to Atlanta engine real fast black Titanic I need you to share more stories uh yeah you can hear these stories I I like all your stories so please tell those stories too and yeah she was in Detroit in the 60s and she was in Detroit in the 60s I would love to hear some of her stories you know she has no interest and stuff like that because we have yeah we had the big four rolling around Detroit the real big Foe and then at least I want to hear all her stories yes I would love those would be some interesting stories on some of her videos because Detroit was popping in the 60s and they had some crazy things going on because even with their their Community their gospel Community their those folks were worse than just regular everyday people yes worldly really and and guys look this look and I I'm not promoting this show but I don't know if you guys have this uh uh be up be uh uh black black market BML that show showed aside that I never knew anything about that was going on the most I knew and I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you I'm I knew about like Shane said it was bumping in the 60s the Motown music the people that was coming out of there and uh what was it uh was it was it Ford that was down there yes and people like they were that that plan was mostly like 80 of black people that worked at that plant yes all of them all three of them in Detroit four yeah man Chrysler yeah is that Detroit is the plan out out in Fort Worth in General Motors here when GM their headquarters are here all the headquarters for all of them are here hey 41 feet I don't know if you're away from your mic but I just want you to know I'm trying to make sure you can double dutch in here that's fine hey everybody yeah [Music] so and like I don't want to I don't want to steer away from the conversation because I'm just amazed by black Titanic and like just her life yeah everything she's experienced like just she has stories for days and we know because she's an honest woman yeah truly her life story and her biography so I have one question to ask him you might have already covered it again I haven't been on the entire stream am I the only one that enjoyed the interview oh I love no I enjoyed this no it was very good it was very informative I just don't like Carlos but I love the interview yeah I think I watched the entire interview in a long time same same yeah without having to do it five minutes at a time right and you know I think what I loved about their interview to me is that they have such a great chemistry you know what I liked about it most was it was different from any of his other interviews Nene took control yes She interviewed him not him her yes then she showed their level of friendship because she knew things about him that even we didn't know about as far as that's out there you know in the media world right so she went there you know showed how comfortable she was and even said things to him that no one else would say like yes okay are you faithful to him like I'm asking you this on camera and you know him usually he would ask someone something crazy like that yeah yeah there's a true relationship there I'm sorry right right I just want to make sure like Titanic says that I think she said she's she's doing it tomorrow remember I told y'all I'm talking about Warriors that fought back I was in the Detroit Riot but General Motors on in all those cars were made by black men but they never had that yeah I'll be tuning in for sure yeah so let me ask y'all since I have these Experts of all experts on here okay so y'all y'all already know I'm not a stray fan everyone was in the sound of my voice knows that I I stopped liking her season one and I stopped liking her season one and I know why is it because the kids on the mattress it was at a different season it was the party it was don't call me let me go get my Versace dress hire a makeup artist you called me personally and invited me to your home oh yes and then I get there you see a camera crew behind me yes and you're such a shady low-class low-budget person what kind of person are you look I'm I got mad about it all over again because she did not admit it until She interviewed with Carl two and say it is one thing to say it like to call me right buy a dress I got my makeup artist you know all of this stuff that I'm doing you know no one in Atlanta lives close so they're all driving a distance to get everywhere right so all of this is taking place you drive you have me to come to your home and only to see these camera people behind me and not let me in yeah I'll be embarrass me to embarrass me but that was another play for the top spot but she got called out and I believe like the kids on the mattress a lot of stuff turned me off with her yeah like that that was a big No-No for me but I feel like again that was somebody doing a power play because I saw what it was she saw who the real star was and you know how Nene was trying to articulate she just really didn't really go there she was trying to say it to him how she felt Deshawn didn't make her feel that way because she was always very nice but the person who made her feel that way was she was never a pet she who never pay right that's who made her feel that way like oh girl you know that type of person yeah can I throw in that I also think Lisa Wu made her feel that way I don't even think Lisa made her feel that way because Lisa took her to the family you know been kind of shady to me though Lisa took her to the hood where her family lived to her humble beginnings I gotta cut you off because you gotta know Lisa and you gotta know the Keith Sweat Saga and all that stuff oh yeah I agree with I agree with trending on that though cause Lisa sneaky now she she is loud and does other stuff quietly to me and that's why her and Ed was named ed they was a good fit because they both were sneaky and they did to each other what they was already out there doing to other people yeah they're only a good fit while Ed had that money when Ed had that money there went the honey yes yeah yeah I agree um if you had that it Factor they're going up people gonna get upset they don't want to take your spot and I think there were other content creators that had mentioned that everything was set up for charade to be she was supposed to run the girls didn't say that either the creator of the show look and Princess said specifically this is I'm I'm taking Prince's words she said when she wrote down on that napkin her idea she said I met Nene and I said I got a show she said and Nene introduced her to her friends like I can't see and charae remember they didn't want shrey because they said charade was born ring but Nene convinced them like she said on TV I convinced him Kim Zolciak thanks Nene but yeah did not thank her and she convinced them to keep her on the show but no they never thought that charade was going to be in fact because they saw boring when they saw charade and then remember Carlo shaded it because the gate was broken remember okay here's the thing they don't say nothing about how Lisa Wu didn't didn't think meaning she probably think Nene profusely but Lisa Wu was trying to take Nene's spot that's a person outside she wants to be in charge of the girls because the Optics the Optics looked think about it football player wife again both of them were I think Ed Hartwell was also football player yep you know what I mean remember he was wounded he was auditioning to go back he ended up getting picked by a different football team but she was hoping for the Falcons he never got picked though it never yeah he just made the practice squad yeah yes or whatever however they were they were ATL royalty these people were ATL royalty and and the fact that Nene won she she still was the even though she had the it Factor she's right underdog have all the Optics out there so and I'm saying that they were they were looking I think the producers let's think about the producers as they're looking at it and they're trying to portray a story these those two women had the Optics right um Kim had the Optics you know what I mean look at the claws are full of clothes was listed later because they listed it in the order for a reason Nene is listed number one Deshawn is listed number two it was they never expected charade they didn't see it with her they did say that they said Nene convinced them the princess the the Creator did not see sharayan say oh she gonna they didn't see it didn't have an it going on at that time she's wearing those bad wigs the same style she was trying well all of them had bad wigs yeah they all did yeah all of them do y'all remember when that y'all events at told herself she used it for a million dollar party and didn't pay the mortgage that Bob yeah yeah no clothing exactly how Dreadful and remember funky done evil also tea regarding charae as well and gave pretty much a little bit of background you know a high school dropout oh yeah child early age raised a child oh yeah but when their daughter she introduced as an assistant but was her daughter the whole time yeah she did not introduce her episode one one you know I have or season one two her daughter was sitting down in a chair one time and she never even introduced her as her daughter in fact her mother was at the Fashion Show she never even introduced her own mother and her mother was on the show and if you look at where they had the seating positions at the fashion show her mother and sister and daughter didn't even have a good seat they were at the end oh wow child I didn't even know she had a sister to this to this season okay you right you're right Shane so her sister wasn't I mean her um her daughter so it's her sister she actually yeah so her sister was on the show it was her mother and her daughter yeah she was showcasing with Sheree's sister or something wasn't it she mentioned have she mentioned something about her sister and everyone was like I didn't know she had a acupuncture who was there with her with the acupuncture her sister sister okay yeah because she mentioned but she had never been on the show before okay just like her brothers never been on the show um I've seen pictures of them you know when they showed their family pictures but see she's the type that makes it hard for women that are really having a problem with some of these um successful men that try to keep them down because thinking about how she is now and the stuff we've seen over the years I'm thinking maybe Bob even though he was out of pocket of some of those scenes and stuff but maybe he was getting a bad end of the straw a little bit because up too by the time hey divorce he didn't have he was a half kid so I think she just could not get over she know she was obsessed with thinking that he was hiding money and right take money from him uh uh hella high water and everybody she was obsessed with that because she didn't want to give up that lifestyle right and I'll never sympathize with Bob just because of his it was very much yeah yeah but just like with women though do we think he was always that way because you got three a whole three kids with him so something couldn't have been that way forever with him because people can't have multiple kids and still be in a the whole relationship could have been yeah and Harley weird this was in you know he was a football player probably weird people be with people for money for the Autumn but he didn't have any money because even I know as a fan of sports fan oh hey cause remember this Sean had to try to break that down to them remember they didn't get it and DeSean broke that down to them like no she said how do you all live aren't you stressed out oh he's like don't you was living off of his name as long as he could and you know when you even though he was a has been people that you know you still have those people that respect you see you know y'all come to you know events for free so right what's in line that's true I don't think she was even attracted to Bob but um do is everyone says because all the ladies have said this at Norm because like candy all of them have agreed that Bob has an amazing personality and they say that um and Sheree always says that Bob is very intelligent and she could say what she wants but then I do question I do I'm I'm there with trending I do question things that she said because you went back to him had a relationship where you were trying to convince us that you all are getting back together later on after you've said all these things so now I am looking at you crazy yeah hey pinky go ahead uh good choice no that was me Farm hey 41 okay go ahead 41. you know what's interesting is the similarities between her and Martel and the fact that you are together because of the appearances part of it right they're very big see we have to remember that and I I know we're talking about the interview but we're still talking about Carlos show yes but you know the interesting part to me is how long Melody covered down for him right he took the test for him put everything most of that I mean although and then she still shared it she still wanted to it to be a lineage thing for not only him but for her kids as well right but for him when everything was said and done they dissolved everything then we saw who actually was running things exact same thing for sure when you look exactly it's really about smoking mirrors and appearances but then when the when the dust clears what is that what's really good I'm not Hey listen I'm a girls girl so I'ma always be there for especially for for black my fellow black woman however if you a little bit too identified in certain areas right and I know you ain't gonna have my back he gives me that she gives me that she gives me that as well quiet as kept Nene does too Nene does not come off as a girl's girl to me so going back yeah so and and I but you know what it took me like five seasons to figure it out with Nene hers to me had to do with abandonment and all those other things that occurred but so and then that's when I saw okay and then even with this show like I'm bringing you ladies with me on this journey and look what the two of you have done to me Kim oh now you all to calling each other Twins and what you know this Barbie and you know all of that and then just how charade did a whole what what I have brought you along and fought for you if I would have known that you would have done that you know what I'm saying yeah right you know you're you're not a girls girl either yeah I wanna see I would like oh wait wait Shan uh cause I heard live laugh love I just want to tell y'all I'm 10 minutes out from taking care of Home succeeding okay you go I heard your voice first I just want to be be fair yes I would like to say to the piggyback I think that was 41 that was saying that the um I want to go back to the incident where with charade you know kick Nene out you know whatever didn't that remind y'all to win Melody put Leticia um out it didn't remind me of that because Melody did not invite Tisha order that restraining thing situation going on with Mars March so and Martel and with this particular thing you're having a party at your home and you 41 fit you have called me and you have personally said like Trey did I want you to come to my party that's what she did she extended a personal invitation to her home which is more personal than an invitation it reminded me of that because I'm like Carlos is really to me like trying to recreate you know wanting a moment and wanting to be nosy just like when Kimmy came to Melody's event you know the mimosas with Melanie Kimmy didn't come there because she was a nice kind person she came there to be nosy because the first thing she said when she got there was Queen of hater said was oh it's more people than I thought it would be why you don't even know me like that you've never been to my event and then she went on oh Melody is really go telling these ladies more about her than that we know that's because you're not my friend you Shady you know whatever happened you know what I'm saying is so about her because I don't know nothing about Kimmy right so you know so when you have someone just like we didn't know anything about Sharay like people have dragged candy all these years and truth be told but we don't know anything about Sharay that she has told she didn't talk about being a teenage mom I think her daughter was raised by her mom just based on how I see the daughter interact oh Grandma's calling let me get off this you know what I'm saying and just the way she introduced her in the way they interact and the way Sheree interacted with her so we don't know anything about she moved to Atlanta married Bob she didn't talk on the show about having a boutique she brought it up recently but I knew it through looking her up but it wasn't successful but she didn't talk about a boutique she's one she got on the show lying to us telling us she was a designer when she had Michael Knight come in we and and do you remember Kim's design the guy who used to come that guy he is a designer of celebrities now he really got um big after that that used to come to Kim's all the time he says oh everyone was funny everyone wants to be a designer now because she was telling her that Sheree was having a fact telling him Sheree was having a fashion show and he said oh it's funny that everyone wants to be a designer now and they don't even know you know have never even you know done anything and went to school or studied and that was charade Dwight yeah no not Dwight it was the guy who used to bring Kim's clothes he was a natural designer to celebrities now I don't know his name but he used to come over and bring him the same one with the wigs not him no that's Derek okay but the other guy he used to bring her you know her her designer you know outfits and stuff thank you for the super sticker Choice the 10 super sticker thank you choice choice you just be choice is just I'll show you what I can't even tell y'all how I just I like I said I prayed about finding choice with or without the money Choice I'm telling you I I do I love you you are just awesome he is a check so so think about over half a million people they have gotten more viewers on his video than the show has gotten with viewers and just on his channel I know there are over 500 um thousand views and Twitter yesterday I didn't check it today yesterday it had 17-5 but he has different platforms on Twitter and everyone is tweeting this video with all of them with thousands and thousands of views ten thousand here fifteen thousand there Shan don't Shan are you still there yes go ahead but they still treated Atlanta like second class citizens yes they did and they put them on the map and like Nene is the reason they have the reunions and you see how she said her and Candy together collectively went to get port to make sure Porsha and she said it on the stage with Andy I think Porsha should say she said that then in front of all of us yeah and can you hear me and that shows you what happens but I do feel like everyone did start coming for her and I do think that every person I don't know whether the producers told them or whether they thought so themselves and I agree with her with what she said about when the show changed because they were being real they were just being themselves because who else would have showed that apartment that Sheree showed us with that blow up mattress and with her son where you could see from that kitchen to that where she's buying 1200 shoes 1800 shoes and you know the picture that she had of herself and her divorce party although she never paid the person that did that picture of herself because then she claimed she didn't like it well you liked it enough to display it at the party yeah hey did did y'all could could y'all hear Shan just now no okay I didn't think I heard her okay say something oh duh I gotta add her back now okay say something can you hear me yes okay I don't know what happened but I was just saying um earlier when she was talking about the male identified I get called that a lot can y'all believe it I know you do other chats I get caught that a lot because I tend to think because y'all know my background like when a woman just says something I can't just say okay and roll with it I have to analyze it right analyze the heck out of it yeah I just don't be believing everybody yeah that's why I said that I don't either yeah I don't call that in the not in chats and on the panels or nothing but I get that in the comments because you know I go in the comment sections because I'm a part of the I'm I'm old enough to know about the before anybody even listen to women when they started just listening to women and now everybody's starting to analyze a little bit more because at one point it was nobody listened to what women were saying about what was happening to them then there was one point if a woman said that you did it and there was really no way to prove you didn't unless you had some miraculous something not even eyewitness would disprove it but see when I because I was a part of the court system so when I see a lot of stuff I tend to analyze it and look at a bunch of different stuff and I reserve judgment on a lot and I ask questions and people take my questions and me asking because I need to know more I can't okay A lot of times I don't judge stuff based on what we know because a lot of times we don't know a lot right so I need more information so I know my husband get on me on time I'm like well why did they do this and why they do that and he's like well I don't believe it and I didn't no but it's a reason why they didn't do so what else did they say like give me more like come on now put some more with it and he just be looking at me like for real but I'm like more because I have seen so many of those cases where it's like she said it it's the truth and he didn't do it actually and it comes out in the end that it didn't go that way and I just and a lot of times where we feel like me a lot of women are how they are because of something some man done it's a man out there some that are like that because of something somebody else did that's why because we don't know nothing about Sharay that's why I was like well I'm wondering that's why he got me he got me right now because all we did see was him being so what about the other stuff that we didn't see because again now we see we don't know nothing about her anyway right I was on her side back in the day like yeah Bob ain't nothing you know but now I'm like well wait what was really going on because apparently we don't right he and her own Ariana as um you know black black Titanic charade definitely has some uh some issues yeah it got her big issue is comprehension yeah that's true accountability comprehension who do I lose who did I just lose succeed and drop down I don't know if she meant to yeah I have one question for y'all okay because I know you got to get with your honey soon family time yeah um what is the end goal what do y'all think is the end goal of these interviews because if we know Carlos has anything to do with it if if Messi Messi Carlos got anything to do with it it's an end goal in it what do y'all think save Martel bring this city back okay so do you mean with his interviews you know like what is he was his end goal with Nene now being interviewed 41 with Mimi yeah on the show love and marriage at ooh that's my overall oh I wrote it yeah he wanted he wants he wants and I agree with that he definitely wants to put her on something but he can't afford her right with he gonna bring charade I think he's gonna bring charade with him with her oh that would be like on fire they might she might turn it down yeah ultimatum it's like so I gotta let her do it to me twice but now she knows how to handle her though you know what I'm saying she can't Blindside you now you know what I'm saying I know who I know what I'm dealing with you know you learning as you go but now she's more mature you know that's true she like she said she raised conflict with her was their biggest moment so she might be like I know how to use that now versus trusting her now yes so I um I don't know if that's where you were going at but I think it's definitely going to be an Atlanta show he's already done uh DC and in 41 feet what did you have a theory I do um my theory is that very much how the setting is my theory is how their setting was podcast style that they'll continue to do that for all of the shows because they have such good chemistry that they they both they so we have a producer here and then we have like besides New York the queen of reality like breakout star Mimi is just it right I just wonder is this going to be the beginning or the Genesis of something bigger between the two of them yeah that's my theory oh that's a great one and I also would like like that that thing that thing pushing trying to push mail out the way so I'm assuming if he he's thinking if he puts something in front of mail with maybe like a Nini right and not necessarily a love and marriage thing because we keep hearing this Offspring show Offspring but we ain't heard we heard it but we ain't seen nothing but it keeps it's out there so you know stuff that's out there and they keep being out there out there out there something that's coming we know something is coming and he loves Nene's britches so I can see him trying to entice her into something but at the end of the day for me unless he gives her real big credit I don't think Nene would do it before the money now okay now here's the thing though okay first of all 41 fit love the theory live laugh love I love y'all series with the podcast on Nene might do it because did you see the low budget when she tried to do with those other guys on that couch that time right yes that means that would be elevation she would probably do but are we gonna keep coming back to listen to Carlos and Nene cackle like two hands not all of us all the time but certain topics just like TGIF certain times you know right yeah because I was surprised actually that I liked them but you know honestly to tell you the truth I want Melody to meet I was just saying this to Black Titanic I want Melody to meet princess Banton lofters um and I want because she was the creator of Real Housewives of Atlanta and since she has created 10 or 11 other reality shows that we don't know them by name I want her to meet someone like her yeah what's her what's her name again princess princess Banton b-a-n-t-o-n-hyphen lobsters l-o-f-t-e-r-s Okay and like even if you Google creator of Roa that's her right but you know I've seen the name I just didn't realize that was the name yeah yeah I was like okay I've seen that because you know how it flashes right I just don't remember the one that took that went to the buyer producer in La when she told them about the show and then that's what like I said when she said she met Nene she said I have a show it wasn't no one else and um you know often duplicated imitated but never duplicate it and but I think DeSean was so sweet she wasn't trying to come for anyone she was just there and just you know oh yeah oh yeah DeSean was like I'm a housewife you want a housewife here right I'm a housewife yeah I like her she's I liked her I didn't like her for TV but she seemed like a really good genuine person I think you still need someone sweet you know everyone isn't gonna be bring drama I do think you need someone not I didn't no I didn't even say I didn't like her because she didn't bring drama she was oh I don't know how to put it it was like I've seen nice people but still be good TV like Melody but I don't DeSean just don't grab me yeah but Melody has some drama going on she may not be the cause of it I got you like if if it was just and not anything else going on our interests would probably not be as much as it is you know to this level but um yeah but I think that you do have to have a balance that's why they tried to bring Cynthia yeah then Peter took over he thought his wife but what about Kim Fields Kim Kim was nice I like him she almost about to fight but Kim Kim was you know Kim was NE and that's when why I say that when um I think that was tripping that said that Kenya doesn't come for people I think it was and when she promised that cheer from under Canfield's and she was just rude and nasty to Kim for no reason and uh and she just apologized to her just a couple a year and a half or so ago she just apologized to her I did not like that on her I didn't like it but that was who she was she came on the show and she you know tried to bully people you know to just kind of you know because they were I don't know whether the producers were telling them in the background right you know you're she was why did she bring a fake boyfriend you know what I mean right right and the producers may have like Nene did say that she says maybe they told her you know she doesn't know but why couldn't it have been her looking for dates why did why did it have to be something and then at that point that's when we did start seeing reality TV change right right I didn't I didn't say I disagree with that part because tell me Trinity tell me actually in your opinion it's Walter Kenya's type um here's the thing okay it's about to get real complicated you ready okay I think in a way he was her type in the sense of I'm not gonna lie I looked at his hair grade I'm sorry yeah so in a way yes he was yeah based on that but not based on the she you know like some more athletic type right not based on physical right are you not based on that I had him in the health club though she would have introduced them you know this much John you're not taking people to the health club before right right and he was a tow truck driver man he had a business though it wasn't a small business because you know the price I remember when someone told me like this particular tow truck was a hundred and eighty thousand dollars you have a fleet you're not just a tow truck driver for the city for the state and so you know I'm so sorry first of all I have to say pinky thank you so much for the five dollar super sticker I appreciate you thank you thank you thank you for blessing I was ran out of breath for for blessing my channel thank you pinky also y'all Anthony just went live to play the last part I think of those conversations with The Barbers oh Lord y'all tell me about it I know right we'll come talking we'll we'll update you Shane be blocked on everything girl that's another story for another day yeah I don't know the story she got to tell me offline but yes Lord um okay y'all but I'ma close out because I do want to catch Anthony's live I've been having to play it back but thank y'all thank you thank you for coming up on the panel and thank you for people in the chat and for people that's just watching and don't chat thank you so much y'all okay but y'all know always have to ask one more question like I'm Colombo I just have one thing I wanted to ask y'all okay since everyone has said that Cynthia is totally different from what we see on TV yeah Andy has said it and they have all said it yeah that that Cynthia does not bring her authentic self she's not a pushover Nene had said it a while ago what do you all really think she really is y'all can tell me that she's the person that kicked Porsha in her crotch and it was no reason for that either one with the white pants on right all right I still remember that the white shell white pants be a train like Beyonce she's media trained yep she is exactly because everyone has always over the years said this other opinion that they had of Cynthia but you have multiple times it always comes back no and then we also saw it on the girls trip that Cynthia was not so nice and you know he's able to get along with everyone yeah that's when Gangsta Boo came out y'all okay okay y'all well some of us we're gonna go catch Anthony but I'll catch up tomorrow we'll let you know what's going on yeah all right we got it tomorrow for free form Friday okay take notes okay okay all right bye y'all okay oh my God thank you little laugh love thank you Shan 41 fit succeeding Choice thank y'all and thank you for my super sticker um pinky and thank y'all so much for just being in the live I will see y'all soon bye [Music] I'll be taking my time [Music] [Music] thank you thank you [Music] oh my God [Music] [Music] [Music] hmm