so your windows are real dark and then you're speeding and then you have a license so that's kind of how things progress there all right well uh you can't drive so um so have someone come here and pick you up so he's 13 over um my normal bubble on a 45 mph Zone the majority of the time I start riding tickets at 15 over um now the state has said when they put up all those speed light cameras that they liked anything more than 10 mph of the speed limit so the state has said generally hey if you're 11 mph over the speed limit you could look to get a ticket um I bumped that up a little bit to about 15 over but there there's lots of times and sometimes it depends on the totality of the circumstances where I'll start riding tickets uh far below that but I'm typically I'm stopping cars um if you're more than 10 mph above the speed limit I'm going to start looking at you um especially if you're moving you're passing slower moving cars