Did you steal anything today? >> Say again. >> Did you steal anything today? >> No. >> And then you did not pay for those items and you walked past the final points of sale. Best secure them in this package. This hearing still has >> This one came out of your purse. >> I just turned 80 years old. My husband is 85 and I'm very forgetful. >> Entitled shoplifterss always expect a break. But the worst are the old ladies. Granny's think time on Earth cancels time behind bars. But what happens when these very entitled granny shoplifterss think they're too old to go to jail? >> No. >> Okay, she has around her, but grandma has a ton of stuff in her purse on top of. >> Okay, >> you're most likely concealing items right now that were shoplifted. >> Ma'am, stop taking items out of the bag. Kind of a dumb move, right? >> When we have video evidence and then you're resisting arrest with us to detain you for shoplifting. >> Here are several moments when entitled granny shoplifterss think they're too old to go to jail. Starting with a shoplifting grandma who went full gladiator mode with officers and still couldn't win the same fight that she picked. >> You're going to catch an additional charge you fight with me. You understand? >> Stop. Let go of the purse. >> Please unhand me. >> Let go of the purse. >> Unhand me. >> You're partying. >> STOP. STOP. just wanted. >> On June the 10th, 2023, police were dispatched to a retail store after a shoplifting in progress was reported. The suspect had already been stopped from leaving. But the moment officers arrived, what started as an ordinary theft quickly took an extraordinary turn. >> Here's the policeman. Let me talk to him about you're going to catch an additional charge. You fight with me. You understand? Stop. >> Please don't grab me. Don't grab my pocketbook. >> Let go of the purse. >> Please let go of the purse. >> Please unhand me. >> Let go of the purse. >> Please unhand me. >> You're hurting me. >> Stop. You're going to catch a felony charge. You keep fighting with me. You understand? Stop. >> I'm not going to tolerate the crap. >> You understand? You're hurting me. >> You're hurting. >> Yeah. Stop. >> You're hurting me. >> You're hurting me. Please stop the camera for a second. >> Stop hurting me. >> Stop. Stop. Stop. >> Please. Please stop. Please. >> [screaming] >> Stop. >> Please. Please. You're hurting me. >> Yep. And if you didn't resist, you wouldn't be hurt. >> Please >> stop. >> Oh my god. Please. >> Please. Please. Please stop. >> Stop. >> Please stop. Please. I'm so scared. Can't you see? Scared. Can't you see that? PLEASE. OH MY [screaming] GOD. YOU'RE HURTING ME. >> You done? >> Yes, I am. >> Okay, we're going to stand you up. I'm going to sit you in a car so I can do my investigation. >> Double lock. >> Oh, God. Please. >> 511 in custody. You can clear the channel. >> Oh god. >> No, you can clear the channel. Ready? Come on. We're going to get you up. >> You guys good? >> Yep. >> I'm here. >> Come on. Bring your knees to your stomach so we can stay. >> Let's go. Bring your knees to your stomach. Let's go. >> One, two, go. Throw her in the car. >> Sure. Can that way? Walk. Yep. >> You released the already? >> Yeah. I don't know. I'm on clear water [ __ ] too. I flipped all around. >> Anything on your shin? >> 46. We'll take a super chance. >> This is awesome. Is this open? Oh my god. Do >> you have anything on you that you shouldn't have? >> No. No. I don't >> lift your arms up for me. Your wrists. Yep. Keep facing the car. See there was a pocket on that side. Go ahead and sit down the car. >> Have a seat. Poppers. Have a seat >> inside car. >> I can't get inside the car. >> I won't let you fall. There you go. >> Scoot over. >> Ow. >> All the way. Watch your foot. >> All the way. Watch your foot. >> With her safely in the back of the squad car, the officers returned to the store for more info. And what they found was proof that this granny wasn't cut from the bake cookies cloth. She was straight out of the streets. >> You're all right. >> So, what happened was um saw her uh coupon. She she's she selected a bunch of items. Mhm. >> Um and then she went in the fitting room with them, came out without them, hung up the empty hangers. Um they're in here. >> Everything's in here. >> Yes. Yes. >> Okay. Do >> you have video? >> Um, I I have video of of the stop, but I'm I'm I'm on a sales floor watching this. >> Okay. So, you have I >> I have video of her going in f room coming out without it. Yes. >> But you watched her on the sales floor the whole time? >> Yes. Okay. >> So, that's the stuff. Um >> All right. >> I could just get the stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And then uh >> and I really didn't want to call you guys, but she she was uh >> she is what it is. So, she's going to catch the retail theft and the resisting. This is hers. All this is paid for. >> That's uh that's paid. Yeah, it's one dress. Yeah. >> Okay. So, this is hers. >> And that's hers. And the credit card is hers. >> Everything's paid for here. >> Everything in here is hers. >> Yes. >> So, you have a camera back here in the office. >> Yes. Got that, too. >> Record. >> Record the resisting. >> Can Yes. Can you um I'll do that right now. Can I just need to make a copy of her ID on my phone? >> Yeah. Once I got it, I'll make sure before I leave, you'll have everything you need for her. >> All right. I'll make that video for you. >> Here's here's my question for you. Uh her walking in coming out with no >> Yes. >> With nothing on the hangers. >> Yes. >> Okay. Cuz I'm going to get save it from you saying that you maintain visual on the sales floor. You watched her select the items. She walked in. She came out with nothing. >> Yeah. >> They were recovered after this after she fought with the police. Um the reason I showed up so fast, did she hit you? >> Well, we came back here and and she she didn't hit me. No. No. She was resisting. She grabbed my badge. My uh loss prevention badge. >> Okay. Here's here's the charge. >> Okay. >> The the charge would be resisting a merchant. Do you feel that she was resisting like >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> That she she was attempting to leave when you said, "Hey, I'm loss prevention. I work for Goodwill." >> When we had when we were back here, she she's like, "I'm leaving. You're going to go to jail. We're going to get your license plate number." >> Yeah. She very very violent, man. Like, but she did not hit me. Can't say she did, you know. >> Okay. I'll reook at the statute in reference to resisting merchant to see if it fits. [music] Um, but yeah, video of her walking in, coming out with empty hangers, a statement from you in reference to what you watched. >> You have a statement for him or >> Yeah, we'll get you one. And then >> I got you for that. Yeah. >> Video of the office when she decided that she wanted to fight with the police. >> Can you get him on paperwork? Is she hurt at all? >> I don't know. I don't think so. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's fine. She just needed to go somewhere. She started a fight. should um it should fall under resisting emergency cuz I've dealt with >> Yeah. I'm just making I'm just trying to see if like if he articulates it. >> I got >> They had to hand it to her. Her theft routine had a touch of skill, but the real show didn't start until the officers walked back to the cruiser. >> Just take a breath. Just stay in the car. Stay in the car. >> I didn't. >> We'll talk about everything in just a second. Okay. As long as you're not injured, that's what I wanted to make sure of. Okay. I don't I heard from where he knocked me on the table. I didn't even >> Who knocked you on the table? >> The officer. >> I sure did, ma'am. >> I didn't do anything to make do that. >> Do you need medical attention? >> Ma'am, do you need any medical attention? It's a yes or no question. >> I don't know. >> Okay, good. >> Watch your leg. Just go ahead and call them for just just a precautionary. >> Five. >> I got it. >> I've got two requests. The first is going to be FD in reference to an older white female conscious breathing low-level fall that was assisted. So far, I got one by uh the numbers WW previous trespass history in reference to theft. Bravo 600 781597670. You okay? >> I wasn't on her window. >> All right, Michila. I told you I would give you one more opportunity to talk to me. Okay. You understand your Miranda rights as they were given to you. You understand that you're still under the protection of the Miranda rights. You understand that you've already acknowledged that you understand your Miranda right. My question is, do you wish to continue to speak to me in reference to what happened? Again, it's a yes or a no. >> Sure. >> Okay. What happened today? You have more than enough money to pay for those dresses. >> I do. I know. I do. >> You have cash and a debit card. So, why did we go in the dressing room twice and take stuff off and put it in your purse and and stash the empty hanger? What's going on? You don't know. Have you done anything like this before? >> Oh my god. Okay. So, we acknowledge the fact that you went into the dressing room with a bunch of clothes. >> I need I need to get a detour. I need to get >> Okay. So, you don't want to ask any >> because that's fine. I'm not going to ask any more questions. I'm going to just explain to you being charged with misdemeanor retail theft >> and resisting an officer without violence. >> I didn't resist. >> You did, too. >> I didn't resist. You sure did. >> When you pull away from me and tell me that I can't take your purse because it has stolen items in it and I have to take you to the ground because you're fighting with two officers in full uniform and it's recorded. >> I didn't fight you. >> I'm not saying that you swung at me. >> I didn't do anything. >> Miss Burr, I'm not saying that you swung at me. That would be a different charge and it would be a felony. But when I go to detain you so I conduct an investigation where me, you and all staff >> is afraid >> is is safe. Why are you afraid? I'm a police officer in a marked uniform. >> The fact of the matter is >> the whole thing. I was afraid of the whole thing. >> Miss Bird, the fact of the matter is is if you just allowed me to do my job, you would have walked away from here. >> It's a misdemeanor charge and you have no criminal history. >> I have. >> But because you decided to resist with me, >> I didn't resist you. >> You did, too. >> I didn't. >> You sure did. >> No, I didn't resist you. >> Yes, you did. The officer finally cut through the theatrics. And once reality showed its face, Granny realized she had chewed off way more trouble than her dentures were built for. >> You told me I couldn't touch you. You told me that I couldn't put my hands on you. You told me I couldn't take your purse from you. You told me a lot of things that I couldn't do, which legally I sure could. So that's why you're being charged with resisting. Okay. You're also going to be trespassed from the entire plaza. You're not going to be able to shop at the Goodwill, the Family Dollar, or whatever. I'm just letting you know so you don't come back by accident. In reference to anybody that I arrest that commits crimes in business, I trespass him from the entire plaza. Okay? So, you can't be here anymore. Fair enough. All right. The van's already in route. As long as you stay cooperative, we'll get those cuffs moved to the front and we'll make you a little bit more comfortable. Okay. I'm sorry. >> It's all right. It's nothing personal. I don't know you. You don't know me. This is just a job for me. >> I didn't resist. >> You did. Unfortunately, you did. Okay. But it is what it is. It's done now. All of your property is there to include the dress that you did buy. The three dresses or four dresses that were in your purse went back to the store because you didn't pay for those. Okay. But everything else is in your purse. Which car up front is yours? >> The black one. >> Which black one? My other half will come and get it. >> Yeah, I'm just so I can let them know so they don't have it towed and they can watch out for it. Which car? What kind of car? I'm not going to go through it or anything like that. I just don't want to mess with until your husband can come pick it up or whoever. What kind of car is it? I'm trying to help you out. >> I know. I'm trying to think. Just wanted to just >> What kind of car? >> A Genesis. >> Okay. I'll make sure that it's safe and then when you get after you get your second set of photos, they'll give you a piece of paper with a PIN number. >> Do I have a record on it? >> That would be up to the judge. So, it's still misdemeanor charges. So, >> I'm going to go to court. >> Uh, unless you get out tonight, but yes, you will have a court date at some point. >> Wait, tell me, please what's going to h happen to me? >> You're going to go to the Penllis County Jail and you're going to be booked in because of your lack of criminal history. You may have a conversation with a sergeant and or lieutenant and you may be released with a court date, but that'll be up for the deputy at the jail to decide. But that's what's going to happen. So, you'll go in, you'll get two sets of photos. One right when you go in, another one after you get out of the holding cell. After the second set, they're going to give you a piece of paper. On the bottom of that paper will be a pin number. When you're in what I called the romper room, but it's intake where there's a bunch of chairs and TVs. There's a phone bank to your right. The first phone's closest to the door. You can make as many phone calls as you need >> with that PIN number. >> Your phone is going to be in your purse. When you get to um the bookending desk, you'll know because you'll be standing in front of it. You can say, "Hey, I need to get a number off of there." And they'll let you get your number. They'll turn it in. They'll turn it off so it doesn't die. So it's charged when you get out and you can make phone calls from there. Okay. >> I need help. >> It's two misdemeanor charges. I hear you. But the opportunity for help was before you decided to do what it means that you were doing. Now you you're going to have to request go through your lawyer because you want to talk to your lawyer and >> I have to do something. I don't know what to do. I am I'm not I'm not I'm not prep I didn't I >> I can't talk to you about it further. you you made the decisions that you made. Unfortunately, I'm just a vessel in reference to the consequences that transpire in reference to that. >> Okay? >> I didn't resist arrest. >> Okay? And you can explain that to your public defender. >> I would politely disagree with you. And I've been doing this for a little while. >> All right. >> You were rough on me. >> H >> You were rough on me. >> I wasn't rough until you gave me no other option. She knew the damage was done. All that remained was deciding whether she'd make it worse. And from the look of it, reality had just tapped her on the shoulder, forcing her to rethink her entire game plan. >> Okay, let me shut the door so it'll cool off for you. The van's already in route. Okay, watch your knee. >> Cuz we were fighting >> obviously without me, but it's fine. >> I'm sorry. You know, >> I'm not All right, go ahead and step out. >> Step out. >> We're going to take some pictures of you, too. Okay. >> We won't let you go. I want you to stand right here with your back to the car, please. >> Need you to look up for me, please. This is going to go a lot faster if you just follow directions. We're taking pictures just in case you end up having any injuries. Can you turn around for me? Your wrist. Let this wrist go. Thank you. >> All right. You ready? Follow me this way. We're going to walk to the back of this van. >> You're going to see a step. You're going to put your feet under the step. >> There you go. >> First of all, you are pregnant. What? >> You are pregnant. >> Okay. I want to put up the arc in the front. Okay. What's that? The question, >> Miss Burke, what is it that's in this container right here? >> It's not labeled. They're not going to let her drink it. >> Is it just Mentos? >> No, those are um aspirin and Advil. >> Okay, so they're all over the counter stuff. >> Okay, we're going to We can't let them you take it to the jail, but everything else is going with you. Your glasses are in here. Okay. Eventually, Granny was hit with charges for theft and resisting arrest. The last Granny was wild, but she had nothing on this 80-year-old entitled Granny, who figured a little deeideed charm, a sprinkle of crocodile tears, and a dash of selective amnesia, could smooth over the small detail that she had just been caught lifting jewelry at noon like a pro. >> I've been in trouble before with you. >> In the past, have you been trespassed from this target before? >> Yes. Okay. What were you trespassed for? >> For taking something. >> Be truthful to us. >> I am being truthful. I didn't know I took it. >> I had no idea. >> On the 27th of February, 2024, officers received a call from Target regarding an active shoplifter. Loss Prevention had her in their sights, watching every move as she stuffed valuable jewelry into her purse. This should have been a routine arrest, but it quickly turned unbelievable because the suspect wasn't just any grandma. She looked old enough to have been there when the first bricks of the Great Wall of China were laid. >> Man, I told the girl. >> Okay, >> I'll show you. First, please do the box. This is it. >> I didn't know what it was. I wanted to be sure and I paid for it year to receipt. We're going to ask you a few questions. Okay. But before we do, I'm just going to read you your Miranda rightites. All right. >> I'm sorry. >> Before we ask you some questions, I'm just going to read you your Miranda rightites. Okay. >> Yes. I've been in trouble before with you. >> You have the right to remain silent. >> Soon after reciting her Miranda rights, the officer started asking the important questions. And just like that, the grandmother turned to a toddler who was caught red-handed in the cookie jar. >> Are you willing to talk to me? >> Yes. Okay. So, in the past, have you been >> Yes. >> In the past, have you been trespassed from this target before? >> Yes. >> Okay. What were you trespassed for? >> For taking something. >> Okay. >> And what brings you back here? >> I did what I had to do when I like shopping here. >> Okay. Will you explain the trespass warning? I called and they said it was okay. >> Called who? >> Whoever is responsible. >> A long time ago. >> Okay. >> When were you trespassed? >> It's been a few years. >> Do you have anything on paper that says your trespass has been lifted? >> No. >> Any kind of documentation to prove that your trespass was lifted? >> No. >> Okay. >> I call though. >> Did you steal anything today? >> Say again. >> Did you steal anything today? >> No. Did you open any packages today? Which one? That one. >> Yes. >> Did you open any other packages? >> Where are the other rings that are in it? >> No. Not that I know them. Unless it fell out. >> Did you take anything from these packages? >> No. I just opened that one to be sure of what it was because I wasn't sure and I told her before I paid for it. >> Okay. So, we're not going to find the missing earrings in your pockets or in >> No, there's not earrings. They're they're stick on things. >> Okay. But we're not going to find those items in your purse. >> Not that I know. >> These are earrings. >> They are. I know. Now I know. >> Okay. So, we're not going to find the missing ones. >> The missing. >> So, Joanna, what what we're referencing, we saw on camera and in person, you open these packages and there was multiple times where these items fell on the floor. Hold on, let me finish where you had to physically bend down to pick them up. Where are those? >> I probably put it back in there. There any >> this package was opened? Did Was this paid for? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I I gave you the receipt. Here's the receipt. $19.99. I think >> if you want to go over the receipt with me. Yeah. Got Q-tips and then Carefree pads. This came out. >> I didn't know. >> I didn't [clears throat] know. >> It still has the the white markings on >> that we know the answers to. We're hoping you can be honest with us here cuz this is not the first time we've dealt with you. >> I know that. >> So then we're not trying to pull your pull any tricks on you. >> I did put it back >> in your purse. >> And you put it in your purse. >> And then you did not pay for those items and you walked past the final points of sale out to the parking lot. 23rd of 2021, you were issued a trespass warning notifying you that you are no longer welcome onto this property. Okay. Do you remember this? >> Not that I wasn't welcome here. After I went and >> Did the deputy explain what this is? >> You were issued a piece of paper. It looked just like this, but it was a pink copy. The deputy explained that you're no longer allowed on this property inside and on the parking lot property. >> I had called. >> Okay. And just like he was saying earlier, do you have any proof as to that you called and you were allowed to come back? >> No, I've been coming here for a couple of years. >> We have no indication saying that you are welcome back onto this property. Okay. So, right now you are currently trespassing according to this trespass warning. >> I'm sorry. >> I'm still welcome here. The trespass warning has has not been lifted. It has no expiration. >> How do how do you do that? Then >> you have to contact that. >> And you have to get full documentation proving that you are allowed to come back here and that this trespass has been lifted. >> I have to have it in writing. >> Yes, ma'am. And you have to have signatures from the target themselves. >> Okay. >> Okay. And also, like he was saying, we have you in person and on camera, opening up this package and collecting two items out of this, the earrings, and putting them into your purse. >> So far, she had gone along like an angel at first, but once the officers hit the heart of the situation, her mask slipped, revealing a granny full of tricks, halftruths, and wild stories. >> They couldn't be in the purse. >> I know. I dropped one on the floor and I put it back. >> These earrings have these little white things that come >> on the floor. >> Best secure them in this package. This earring still has the >> This one came out of your purse. >> I don't know. I'm sorry. >> We're just trying to have you be truthful to us. >> I am being truthful. I didn't know. >> I had no idea. Do >> you have pockets on that jacket? >> No. Do you have pockets in your pants? >> Are you wearing any of the ear uh the rings or anything? >> No, these are mine. >> Okay. Do you have to walk past the the aisle? >> I don't see >> which which aisle she dropped this item to see if there was >> Yeah, it was actually time dispatched. I hope it's in the nose of the time stamp, but um every the two times that I saw her drop them on the floor, she picked them back up. So both of the the earrings, so there's still one earring. >> I can go to those two spots just to make sure. >> Yeah, if you don't mind because we're we're missing one. under arrest. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Please don't do this right now. >> Let's see if they have >> My husband just had a stroke. He had >> You guys have the uh the statement paperwork and the will prosecute paperwork. Anything like that? >> A bunch of over there. on the floor. >> On the floor. >> Yeah, that was on the second of the two instances. I was going with the snatch at that point, too. >> Yeah. Cool. >> I did not take it intentionally. It might have fallen in my purse. I put my purse through. >> We located the uh the other earring on the floor. Do you guys want to pursue charges on the trespassing? >> On the Yeah. >> Okay. Do you guys want to pursue charges on the the one earring that was removed from the box? >> Taylor. >> Taylor. Okay. >> My husband is 85 and I'm very forgetful. >> Yeah. I apologize for that. I mean, we've had children in here as young as 10 years old. >> I know. >> I don't I don't really discriminate when it comes to chocolate. People come in all shapes and sizes. >> I didn't do anything. >> What do you mean? You pulled it out of your purse. >> I didn't put it in there. It might have fallen in there, but I didn't put it. >> The beauty of >> I did drop. >> Listen. Listen. The beauty of America is that there will be your time in court by time to find out. >> This is not a courtroom. >> No. >> What are you looking for? >> Can you please tell me what you're looking >> driver's license? >> They're getting the statement done right now. Believe me, >> they still have brochure, but I can give them a case number. >> No, it was right there in front of me. >> I was holding it half the time and I was I had it in the car for a while. I didn't. It was not intentional. >> Charlie 223 to type. >> Really? I wouldn't do that. It wasn't even an expensive. >> That's why I didn't put it back because I'm allergic to that. >> It doesn't The price isn't roll. >> What's my 1040? >> Can I do anything? >> No. >> Can you let me come to work here or something? >> Can I work it? I will. I used to be in sales. I used to >> be in the medical field twice now is not going to let you come work here. That's not >> But I didn't steal it. >> Thank you. >> This isn't the good old days where you worked off your >> juvenile. No, I did. >> No. >> I didn't when I was younger. To make sure her story held water, the officers took things a step further and honestly hoped this entitled granny didn't have any more surprises tucked away like expired mints in a purse. >> Yes. >> Do you want to return it? >> Do you want to return these items? >> You guys, they're not they're not going to they're not going to take it up to jail. >> Which which card did you use? >> I don't want to go to jail, please. >> We're not going to go back and forth. Which card did you use to pay for the items? the uh the Target card, I believe. >> This one? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Is there a pin number to go along with that? >> Yes. >> Let's go do a return of the register. >> You going to take all >> Please don't do this. I have watch. >> No, you don't. I watch you zoom to the side. >> I can use the car when I lean on the car. >> Okay. >> Return. >> Okay. everything. >> Um, no. I'll go ahead and put the return receipt on the walk this way. We're going back in the same room. >> Man, this is going back in your wallet. Okay. >> Yes. I have that for protection. >> I don't. >> We had a close friend up in New York and in the shopping center that was near our home. >> There was a knife slasher that was slashing women's legs underneath cars. >> Are you able to um get the video? Yeah, >> we got two. >> Perfect. And uh >> a receipt for the uh item. >> Yeah, for sure. You want it for just that one box, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. Want you guys? >> Yeah. >> Is that package >> right there in that table? >> Sorry. >> Yeah. He didn't get the yellow. It's fine. I'll be back. >> Is there a approximate uh value of the year ring on the witness statement? >> There will be the training receipt. I'll just wait. >> Okay, no problem. >> Matches what you guys have. >> Perfect. >> I'm not back. No more. >> That's what you were told in 2021. >> Yes, I'm allowed >> that you're not allowed. >> That even means the parking lot in front of Target as well. Okay. >> I called and spoke to someone here. >> Okay. But we have no proof to we have no proof to confirm that. >> I didn't know I don't know anything about that. >> I'm going to put handcuffs on you while you sit in the car. I need that car right there. In the end, the woman was taken to the county jail where it was exposed that she had two pending [music] theft cases in two different counties. But at the time of making this video, updates on her charges were unavailable. Next up is Jane, who turns jumplifting into a family field trip, dragging two grandkids along like it was a team building exercise, only to find out that a family that steals together also gets to share matching charges together. >> Put your hands behind your back. >> Why? >> Cuz you're being detained for shopping. That's why. >> No, I'm not. She No, I'm not. >> How old are you? >> 16. >> Okay. 16. >> This is how you set an example for this young lady. Have a seat. For sale, do you have video surveillance that I was shoplifting? >> Yes. >> On December the 17th, 2023, police were called to Windco Foods for an inrogress shoplifting case involving a peculiar group of thieves who were casually helping themselves as if consequences were optional. >> I did, but to answer the door, I lost a female. She had a She has a Hoba box on her. >> She has a what? >> A health and beauty product. She [ __ ] >> It's okay. It's okay. She has a purse. I can't find her right now. So, this is grandma. She has all the product and [ __ ] on her, but she has something grandma's right there. >> Yeah, she has something yellow. And then just to answer you guys, I Man, that one [ __ ] second. >> Okay, so >> there she is. >> Where? >> Oh, is she wearing black? >> Yes. So, she had a box in her hood in either she just picked it up to conceal her pants right now, but then she has something else in her bag. But >> does grandma know? >> No. Yeah, they've been concealing together. I don't know why they're separating all of a sudden. >> There's another female. A smaller female for sure. >> So, would you you want the items back obviously? >> Oh, hell yeah. >> Then you want them trespass. >> Oh, mostly. >> Okay. >> So, I can show you real quick. That way. Um, here we go. There's grandma. >> Cuz they haven't passed points of sale yet. Um, let me What What aisle is this right here? This is frozen. This is >> All right. I'm gonna Let's go make contact and then uh you can chill here. >> Okay. So, she has she has something in her bag and then again she has a yellow box. I don't know where it is. House and beauty cuz >> it's just me right now. >> Okay. >> She has it on her but grandma has a ton of stuff in her purse on top of her >> purse. Okay. All right. Cool. I'll try to bring it back over here. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Hey ladies. >> Ladies, how you doing today? Okay. >> Hey, uh, let's go ahead and bring all this. We're going to go down to the LP office. We're going to go have a little chat. Okay. >> Cool. >> We're going to have a chat. Why? >> Yeah. So, right now, um, you're you're most likely concealing items right now that were shoplifted. So, let's just go have a talk down at the LP office so we don't have to make a talk out here. Okay. >> Okay. But I think you're mistaking. >> Okay. Well, if I am, then I am. So, let's go have a talk. So, go ahead and just follow me. >> What about all my frozen food? >> Uh, if Hey, if it's a mistake, we'll we'll we'll get some new ones. Okay. Go right. Go right. Go right. Ma'am, stop taking items out of the bag. Kind of a dumb move, right? We're going to go straight to customer service. You want to go ahead, Pablo? Just slow it down, ladies. We're going to go just follow this officer. All right. Sorry. I know it's a kind of a tight squeeze in here. Let's close this for a second. >> The officers quickly approached who looked like the group's sweet nana. But the moment she revealed her real self, they realized they weren't dealing with just any regular grandma. They had just met a seasoned isle bandit with years of mileage. Okay. Are you grandma? >> Ma'am, >> what? What's your name? >> Just go ahead and put your hand behind your back for a second. Why? Ma'am, put your hands behind your back. >> Why? >> Cuz you're being chained for shoplifting. That's why. >> No, I'm not. You are. No, I'm not right now. >> No, I'm not. >> Relax. >> Let go of the purse. >> Relax. >> Let go of the curse. You want to shop with me? >> Stop riding with us. Do it. That's why I do it. >> Do it now. Stop touch. Do it now. >> No. Whatever you tell me to do. >> Here come anything. You also do it now. >> Can you know? >> Attack my bag. You're You're being safe. >> You You're saying >> you're saying >> Listen, you have three officers in your fighting. You're You're not going >> You're hurting my arm. >> Well, you're resisting against us. >> Bring it back. >> Bring it back now or I'm going to throw you on the ground. What a move. >> Go ahead and turn around. >> I have another young one here. I need to know where she's at. >> Well, we'll figure that out after this. >> Yeah, but I need to know where she's at. >> She has to be safe. >> After this, we're going to have two. So, I'm going to read you something right now. Do you understand these rights? Take it as a no. >> How old are you? 16. >> Okay. 16. >> How do you do that now? >> Okay. >> Back here. >> Yeah. >> This is how you set an example for this young lady. Have a seat. Have a seat. >> Say please. >> I'm not going to say please to you. You disrespected us by trying to resist arrest. Okay. >> Excuse me. Detainment. [laughter] Other one. This is This is >> Oh, they got a young one right there. >> Yeah, they have a minor minor. >> Hey, Pablo. >> Are they out with them? >> Can you take a look at him and just go grab >> She's in the pet aisle, which is >> you associate with them. >> Was she involved or she's just a little? >> No, she's just walking around. But I mean, if you want to bring her here just in case. >> Sink Crocs, black shirt. >> You walk out the door, make a right, you'll see. I was just going to like talk and stuff like that, but I figured again if she's dealing with her children or minors or whatever, >> you're going to be problematic anyway. >> Did you get scared of the buzz ball? You don't want the buzz balloon. >> You didn't want the buzz bone? >> I said I didn't. >> Well, they're going to talk. All right. What's your name? What was that? >> Beth. >> Oh, I forgot. She took the booze. My bad. I made a mistake. >> Let me get your bag over here. Okay. >> What the hell? >> I'm so sorry. >> If this whole thing was their idea of a right of passage, [music] Grandma and her little squad chose the wrong one. The power struggle was over and the officers understood one thing. Whatever needed doing had to be done immediately. >> Sorry. >> It's not personal. I was just used to >> if you don't understand. >> She took all the >> I did not know that. >> He was right next to you. >> I did not know that though. I was shopping through the store myself trying to get >> I'm not judging you. >> But whoever wrong >> for having that stuff in my purse. >> She just kind of ramped things up for a second. Okay. >> But I'm just trying to get here like alcohol or anything. >> She was >> I wasn't aware of it. She was right behind you when >> I wasn't aware of it. I didn't see her. >> We're going in circles. Um, just just real quick. >> Is there any way we can separate the juvenile here with her back to the camera? >> Yeah, you can separate. Yeah. >> Okay. Just clearly like speak with her cuz it's >> she's the grandma's talking. She's talking. >> Yeah, we're okay. >> We have a granddaughter. She She has a disability. >> Really get freaked out. officer is with with her right now and she's fine. >> That first chair is fine. >> Okay. >> Just cuz we have so much to talk to now. >> If you do not have an appointment for you prior to question, >> I had no clue. >> If you do not have money, >> did my partner get your name by chance? >> What will be given to you for free? >> What's your name? >> Question or for your question. Do you understand this right? >> Ma'am, at this point, you don't have a choice. So, like we told you, you're detained for the crime of a shoplifting concealment. Then you resisted with us and tried to grab a bag. >> So, what is your name, ma'am? >> You have to legally give it to me at this point. >> Or I will charge you >> and hinder an investigation. I just added your charge to >> the charges you already have. >> Jane. >> James. >> Jane. >> Jane. What's your last name? Um, we're going to finish the investigation and depending on if anyone else can pick up, >> especially the little one. You're going to go down to our booking facility and get processed for shoplifting. >> All of us? >> Yes or no? >> Even the little one? >> No. Unless you shoplifting. >> No, we're we're going to have somebody come pick her up. Who do you have at home that could >> possibility exist that your kids may be? >> Probably your mother. >> Your mother. What's mom's name? >> Okay. So, which purse was yours, ma'am? >> Mary. >> The blue. The blue one. And this was all in the blue purse, correct? on you. >> As far as I know, >> how did this get into the your purse? >> I I really don't know. >> To be honest, you made it worse for yourself when you resisted and did not just relax your arms and let us put the handcuffs on. When you grab the purse and you resisted the whole time with us, that made it way worse for you. We were just going to put you in handcuffs, detain you just like this, nice and easy. So, most people, if they're innocent, they're like, "Cool, fine. Handcuff me. If we have the wrong person, we release them." Right? Someone who feels guilty, they fight with us. or someone who's dealt with this in the past who has >> I have never dealt with this in the past. I have never had anything like this happen to me and I I'm telling you I don't know >> how that got in there. >> Okay. >> I was going through the store shopping. I have a cart full of food to buy. >> Okay. >> And they came up to me and said that we had to come in here because there [snorts] was a possibility of some shoplifting going on. >> I didn't know. I was walking to the store looking at stuff and everything and some points I walked away from my purse. Look at your cameras. >> I don't know how it got in there. >> Okay. And was your purse in the little seat area the whole time or >> It was in the little seat area. Yes. >> Okay. How long would you say that you lost visual of your purse your whole time? >> I don't know. I'm I was looking at stuff trying to see check prices and and and figure out what I was going to get. And probably at some points it might have been for a little while but best was there by my purse so I I don't know. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I mean technically you just dumb and stuff >> except for what she was doing. I had no clue she was stealing alcohol. I don't even know what that [ __ ] is. Like I said I don't drink. >> Okay. Did you see her at any point except in her purse? >> I did not. >> It sounds like when they were trying to detain you, you were saying just do it. Just do it. What were you referring to? >> Just do it. >> The store. >> I don't remember. >> The mastermind herself knew that she had bitten off way more than she could chew, but she still wasn't ready to drop that sweet grandma act. However, the officers knew that there was nothing sweet about what was to come. >> What were you telling her when we were putting handcuffs on you? And we kept telling you, "No, don't do it." >> What will happen most likely is that >> What was I telling her? I don't even remember. >> I really don't. >> Was it in reference to going to the car? >> No, >> cuz I was mentioned. >> That's what she said. But I'm like, "No. What are you talking about? Go to the car for what? >> Was it in reference to grabbing the purse in the cart from my hands?" >> No. You're honest with me about everything. Okay. Do you understand how this isn't really adding up to us when we have video evidence and then you're resisting arrest with us to detain you for shoplifting for concealment? >> Video evidence of what? >> No, that was in here. Shoplifting is also considered concealment, not just pass points of sale. >> Do you have video surveillance that I was shoplifting? >> Yes. That's why we got >> my own purse. >> That's why we got called here. Yes. >> I'm not lying to you. I wouldn't lie to you about that. Have you ever been caught shot before? >> Never. >> Can I have your last name? >> Meanwhile, another officer pulled the 16-year-old aside and talked to her calmly. And within a few nudges, she spilled more than grandma had since the start of the investigation. Indeed, experience really does teach how to keep the lips seal. The chocolates >> and you put them in your bag. >> M. >> Which bag is yours? Um, what's Tinkerbell have? >> MC. >> The Tinker Bell bag. Okay. Okay. What else did you put in your bag? >> Matches. Also, >> do you have a middle name? >> The that ball. >> The Buzz Ball. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> No. But do you have a middle name or no? >> Jane. >> What is that? Like a alcohol drink? >> Legal first name. >> Yeah. >> Why you stealing alcohol? You're 16. >> Can you spell it for me? J R M I N. >> It's okay. >> Do you have anything else on you right now? >> That's from the store. >> Her confession sealed their fate, but the night wasn't done with them yet. A few minutes later, the 16-year-old's mother showed up to pick up the little one. This simple encounter further offered a glimpse into how the family viewed shoplifting. >> You know when you guys called me, you said my daughter was stealing. >> My mom being arrested because my daughter was her. >> So she actually was concealing in a purse as well. So it was it was separate events at the same time if that makes sense. So she had stuff in her purse and then there was stuff in another purse. >> There there there is surveillance of her concealing as well. She admitted to concealing. >> Okay. I sometimes when I personally me I'm not trying to make excuses for everybody else. Sometimes when I don't have a cart in my hands full I'll put stuff in my own bag but I'll pay for it when I get to the counter. >> Yeah. You know she said she said she was shoplifting and uh obviously you can extrapulate from that with grandma. Obviously I can't talk about that but you can kind of take it from there your own imagination about it. Um but so what's going to happen tonight is that she's going to be taking uh taken to which is downtown. >> Mhm. Um hopefully she'll learn a lesson from that. >> Talking about my daughter. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> So here's the deal. Even if she was doing what you're saying, which is not too consistent with the norm the average citizen. >> So I'm just saying I have personally done that. >> Right. But when you walk past all points of sale >> Oh, okay. >> What's your intention? >> You passed the registers. You're about to walk out. What's your intention? She also had some alcohol with her. >> She had a buzz. >> Yeah, that was in her purse. >> I don't know what her intentions were with that. I mean, I'll let you decide that as a mother and how you want to go about discipline if you're going to discipline, but that's all how you want to go about it. But that's what we found. >> Okay. But yeah, it's however you want to parent. >> So, that's all she was taking was alcohol. What else did >> And there was some there was some candy. Uh she said that was for her grandpa. But I I Here's the thing. She's with She's with grandma. Yeah. >> And obviously it's a loud behavior because again you can kind of go from there about what was going on with grandma. But I mean that this is this is something that I'm sure you know your mother better than anyone. >> I do. And I don't know why my mom would do that. That's the thing. Like she has her social security. She lives with me >> and she doesn't have to pay any of the bills there. Yeah, >> I mean she buys food and stuff on her social security to help out, but >> I mean I make plenty of money to pay all the bills there and let them pretty much keep their social security check. So I don't know why. >> Eventually both grandma and her granddaughter were hit with shoplifting charges. Although grandma picked up an extra one for resisting arrest. Jane was a bad egg just like Shante, a granny who assumed tossing her stolen goods and running would erase the crime. Unfortunately, time hadn't kept her in the loop on modern policing. >> I swear that's not mine. She putting that on me. Can I just go get my mama, please? >> Oh, no, ma'am. Not yet. Not. Why you in our custody? >> Be honest. And that's when I threw under the little thing. I never made it out the store with it, but I was wrong for taking it. >> Can I please just give another chance, please? >> No, ma'am. That is not my choice. >> On February the 21st, 2024, police responded to Dillards after reports of a shoplifter. They arrived in time to spot the suspect, who panicked, ran back inside, and dumped the stolen goods, thinking no evidence, no crime. But that night, reality had other plans. >> Going on the back, God, you better stop right there. Cuz if I got to chase you, you have a bad day. I'm [ __ ] RIGHT NOW. I CAN'T TAKE IT. HELLO. I can't take nothing. >> Hello. >> Stop listening. >> Let me just ask you something. I can ask a question. >> I will dump you on the ground. You do not stop. >> Listen, ask a question, please. >> Can I ask a question? I'm at >> late for that. >> I didn't do nothing. No, ma'am. I dictate nothing. >> Ma'am. >> Ma'am, just let him do what he got. >> Do not make me use force. >> Nothing. >> Don't make me use force. >> Okay. Now, put my phone in my pocket. >> Nope. Put your hands behind your back. >> Can I put my phone in my pocket? >> Hands behind your back. [snorts] >> I'm going to put my phone in my pocket. I feel you cannot. I don't know where you came. I'm moving. >> Stop. >> Stop. >> Ma'am, >> right now you stop. Put your hand back. >> You come to the scene over here. I'm not doing nothing. >> You're resisting me right now. Stop >> Stop pulling your arms away. >> I think I know. It's the sweater. >> It's not the sweater. It's you. All right. >> Why' you run police? >> Yeah. Why did you run? You >> You up on me. You no person. Nothing in my hand. >> I didn't even say anything to you. I didn't even get out of the car. >> You did. You looked and you stopped at me. You did. I said look at you. I don't mean nothing. I could have just been riding by patrol in the parking lot. Right. But outside behind I said I don't have nothing. I told her right there and there. >> Okay. Can I get a chance to talk before you drop me off then? >> All right. I get my phone. Oh, you get that later. right now. >> Well, I got that grandma out my car. Yes, sir. >> Yeah, cuz they already got me all on the car. It's her. It's her. I swear that that's not mine. She putting that on. I ain't had that. >> Yeah. So, I can check your cup. >> So, that's not mine. And I'm not getting That's not mine. My girl did have that. >> Okay. >> That's what the dog did. >> I hear you. I don't even know what you're referring to, but Okay. >> Yes, it is. I saw when she called you. She called the number. I said, "Should you call her? You want to call? I don't want nothing." So, she said, "That's mine. Be honest." Huh? That's not mine. She put that on me, MAN. I'M LIKE, "GIRL, THAT'S NOT MY ASS. That's not mine, man. On my kids. That's not mine. I swear to God, that's not mine." >> All right. You have a record, man. Solid. >> I didn't have that. I read you. >> No, I got a thick jacket. You would have seen all that stuff FELL OUT OF ME. HOW DO I HAVE THAT? >> THE RICE I READ. >> NO. >> Do you understand your rice? >> This is not my stuff. [laughter] >> All right. Well, do you understand your rice? >> No. >> Okay. [snorts] >> Well, then guess what? I can't talk to you now. >> Okay. Say what you got to say. >> She tried the classic tears and lashes move, thinking it would sway the officers. They weren't buying it, and reality was ready to remind her who was really in charge. I didn't say that you were being arrested or charged or anything. Okay. I asked you, do you understand your rights? >> Yes, sir, I do. >> Do you want to talk to me? I don't know. >> Yes, I do. >> Okay, I'll talk to you in a minute. Your idea, >> please. >> I ain't got my ID. >> Okay. >> I just said I don't have much. Let me get my new pad out, ma'am. Okay. Um, can you give me What is your first name? >> Don't get me up. Can you spell your first name for me? >> I'm getting locked up. Let me ask you that. >> If you you spell me your first name for me. >> Can you loosen? >> Can you loose for you, ma'am? It's >> actually very loose. So, I'm not going to >> I ain't DROPPING NOTHING OUTSIDE. I didn't take no clothes outside. I told him I picked up. I didn't take no clothes outside. Man, not for my mama down there. He let me talk to stop to talk to her. Oh, right now while you're in custody, he can't give you your phone. >> Okay. I'm saying without being in charge. He said I wouldn't be in charge with anything right now. >> It's like circum now. >> They're not made for comfort, but the way he put them on, they're still pretty loose. So, they are that's how they fit. >> I need a charge of that. I didn't have that. I have no idea what he's doing or what he's talking about. I'm just here because he called for us. >> What he was saying? >> He just called for us to come. >> Can I just go get my mama, please? >> Oh, no ma'am. Not yet. Now, while you're in our custody, while you're in your custody, you have to wait and see what the officer is going to instruct you to do. >> Um, >> I'm saying just be honest with me. I'm being arrested. >> I'm not the primary officer. I don't know what he plans to do. I don't know what's going on, though. >> Um, I'm just here to assist him. I don't know what the business wants to [clears throat] do. I don't know what he's going to do. I'm just here assisting him. That's why I'm at the computer right now. Typing this in while he conducts his investigation. That's all I'm doing. >> How you doing? >> All right. Good. How you doing? >> I'm well, thank you. Excuse me. I talk for you right stuff, but I never took it. I walked downstairs. >> No, that's not me. They never put that on me. I'm going to get all that stuff. I had a sweater. >> I know this was part of it. >> I didn't have that stuff right there. You pay nothing, but I can't even talk. They don't want to talk. >> Um, if I interrupt him, that interrupts his investigation, which is, >> it's not fair, though. How y'all going to char me with that? I don't have all of that. I put the dresses in the thing. >> I don't know. >> While she kept ranting, the primary officer was busy gathering evidence. Her shouting seemed all over the place, but beneath it, she already had her next move mapped out, just waiting for the right moment to strike. All right. >> Can I get a chance to talk? I'm being honest. Can I talk? >> I've got uh Reyes running it through clear. Uh neither one came up in NCIC GCIC. Neither one of her names that she gave me. >> I could be honest with you. I could talk, please. >> That probably be the best option for you to be honest with me. >> I'm being honest. >> Okay. >> I ain't going to lie. I don't want to lose everything. I did take the clothes, but I never made it out the door after I seen her calling your number on the in the car. I'm being honest with my dad. I threw it on the side by the thing. I never made it out. I already knew she was calling me on the intercom. She called some type of numbers and I said, "Oh shit." And I threw it under a little thing. When I walked down, you see me, I was already scared and I ran back in. I'm being honest. When you see me, I ain't had no bumpy clothes or no purse. Not like that. I swear to God, I didn't. >> I'm being honest to you and I apologize for running. >> Can you ban me? I'll never come back. Please. >> I got a lot to lose. Please give me another chance. Please. I swear to God I won't come back. I won't. I did take it, but I never made out the door with it. I never did. I was coming down the little steps part. I heard her call a cold. I said, "Oh, she called." I take my mouse and she calling the police >> and I threw it to the side. >> Don't tell him. >> I'm I'm just I'm talking to I'm sorry. >> Nice polo. >> Baby polos. >> My grandbaby. >> Mhm. >> I never made it out the door with it though, so I'm being honest. You know, please give another chance car. >> You realize how bad that looks. >> Yeah. >> If you're you didn't take anything, if you didn't made our story if I run. >> Yeah, you right. I seen you. >> So, I ran cuz I figure if I seen this, I'm being honest. When I walked in the door and I seen you, you had slowed down. You did any eye contact. I said, "Oh, he probably about to tell me to turn back around." I swear to God, when I ran, but you see me, I didn't have nothing. I know my rights. I left for in the store. I never came out the store with anything and I didn't have all that. No hats and all that. I'm being honest. >> Okay. [snorts] Ma'am, what's your name? >> Shante. >> Miss Shante, do you um understand how the state of Georgia the code section for shop listing is when you go into a store and you don't even have to fully leave the store with the merchandise. >> Only thing you have to do is >> randomly conceal merchandise, which we have you on camera doing. Yeah, I I got you on camera. We got you on camera. I heard a call a code and I had under a little thing over there. >> Let me finish. We got you on camera. Making a selection for those three items right there. >> And concealing and concealing them under your left side >> up underneath that that sweater that you got on there. >> I did. >> And then >> and when she was her. Yeah, I guess it was her. I don't know who it was. Y'all made a pole on the intercom. Right or wrong, be honest. And that's when I threw under the little thing. I never made it out the store with it, but I was wrong for taking it. >> Why don't I just pay for it? >> Can I? A >> little too late for that now. >> Can I pay? >> You had a chance to pay for it. >> Yeah, you right. But I I ain't walked out the store with it. I'm being honest. >> You made an attempt in the state of Georgia. That's all you need is the attempt. >> Excuse me. >> So, with that being said, you're going to be arrested for shoplifting. >> Excuse me. I could talk to you. >> And you're going to be banned from the store. The plan she had rehearsed fell flat, but she wasn't finished yet. Years of dodging responsibility had taught her a few backup moves. >> Ma'am. >> Okay, here you go, sir. >> Ma'am. >> Ma'am, can I give that? That's just me. That's for you, sir. >> Okay, >> ma'am. >> All right. Criminal trespass notice. As an agent of Dillers, I hereby revoke your invitation to Dillard. You are requested to leave the dealers premises immediately and you are no longer permitted to enter the premises of any dealers in the United States. The fact that you may receive advertisements or be a dealer's credit card holder does not give you the invitation to come back to deals. You are considered a trespasser until you receive a written notice revoking your status as a trespasser. If you believe this trespass notice was given an error or if you wish to request that the trespass notice be revoked, please contact Dealer's Legal Department, 1600 Canrell Road, Little Rock, Arkansas. >> Okay. Ma'am, >> and what's your name? >> I got a question. I can ask a question. >> And what's your name? >> Excuse me. Can I ask a question? >> Sure. What's your date of birth? >> Can I just get one more chance, please? >> No, ma'am. >> Can I call Can I call my mom? >> No, ma'am. You can call when you get to the jail. >> When you work here with Secret Shop tomorrow? >> No. >> Oh, I can ask a question, but I ain't let it out the door, though. >> You still made the attempt. You passed the point of sale. >> I had I was right there. It's still a register right there. You still made the attempt to walk out the store, but I never made I don't have to hurt. >> But you made the attempt and like Officer Wright said, that's all you need to say. >> But I'm saying I never like heard of that. I never say, "Excuse me. I can't never mind. I can't even talk. I let y'all talk." What What you have to say? What I'm saying? >> I'm listen. I'mma listen to what you have to say before I go upstairs. Go. >> I'm saying when I had came out. >> I did. I dropped it right there. I never had left the store though. I never left the store. >> What did the officer tell you in the state of Georgia? >> How much um how much it came up to? >> Oh, I don't know. >> Yeah, I don't feel I feel like that's my fault. I didn't leave the store. I was out the store with the merchandise. >> What's not fair is you're trying to items. >> Okay. >> All right. Sally that up for >> questions. Real nasty. >> All right. So she said listen to what she just said now. She said I attempt. She said I passed the news. >> You want to get over here? >> You attempted the you attempted to steal merchandise. >> Yeah, but I ain't came out the store with it. >> Doesn't matter. In the state of Georgia, all you got to do is have the attempt. All you got to do is conceal merchandise and show. real intent. >> Well, as it appears as a Mr. Man, so you very well may, >> but I am not the one to make those decisions. >> Can I call Can you call my mom while you got your phone, please? >> Oh, no, ma'am. I can't do that. This is all work. I'm I'm checking on what's pending outside of this building. >> Can I please just give her the chance, please? >> No, ma'am. That is not my choice. >> Please. >> No, ma'am. >> Well, you think I'll lose everything I got? >> I don't know. what your situation is, man. I >> Your incident has been updated. >> So, y'all got the Y'all got me to walk out the doorway. >> I tell you what I do have. I have you over there in the kids section concealing that merchandise. >> I told you of course I picked up >> and attempting to leave the store. >> Yeah. But when after she turned when she turned the little numbers on the intercom, I straight dropped it. >> Okay. And that right there is intent to shop, which in the state of Georgia This pen belongs to the store. I take this pen, put it in my pocket. I shop with you. I have not paid for this item. This item does not belong to me legally. It still belongs to the store. All you have to have is concealment and you have committed the crime of shoplift. And that's where we're at right now. >> Well, you know what? She could just like ban me. >> That's their choice. And right now, that's not their choice is to just ban. They're going to ban you. That's not happening. But they're also pressing charges. >> They're pressing charges. >> In the end, she was charged with shoplifting and permanently banned from Dillards. Next is a kleptic granny whose defense for a felony hall was, "I didn't plan to steal it because intent obviously matters more than the evidence." >> She worked her way out to the south entrance and exited without making any attempt to purchase what she had concealed in her bag. >> Is there anything at all I can do? No. >> No. You did it. >> You committed felony theft and you're going to county jail. >> I didn't plan on stealing this stuff. I know you don't believe me, but I didn't. I was going out to find my >> I don't believe you could cuz you removed some of the stuff from the items. On September the 19th, 2023, police headed to a mall where an elderly lady had been caught lifting a felony amount of merchandise with surprising expertise. >> Oh, thank Shane. her burns. I began watching her hair. >> Okay, >> here's a whole list and times of every time she took something. She had these bags in there and sealing it in her thing. >> Okay. >> Then I spent a bunch of time in a fitting room for an hour and a half before she went upstairs though. She took that off the card, discarded the card, and then took the elevator. >> So that showed her intent from the beginning already. But so her then she took the rest of this, put it in her cart, went out to was going to go out to her car. She exited the store. Her claim is that she was going to her car to get her wallet. But what I'm trying to explain to you is you can try and tell me that all this she walked out with by accident. The fact that you discarded the card >> and she put these three things in a Macy's bag. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We >> I've got everything. She did it all under the camera. So it's >> Whose bag is that? Yours? >> That's hers. >> That's from here. >> No, that's her her bag. >> Okay. >> But I took a picture of all this. So >> there's stuff in the bag, too. >> No, that's her bra. >> Okay. >> Yeah. She was trying on dresses. >> Okay. >> I was running out to my car to find my phone, which I still can't find. I know it doesn't make sense. >> Yeah. You know, it doesn't >> Yeah, >> we we do this a lot. >> I know you do. >> Very lot. >> Unfortunately, >> I've gone with patience. I I >> We'll get it for you. Okay. >> Mall 16528. >> All right. I'm going to read you your Miranda rights real quick. I'm going to make sure you understand them. You have the right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Do you understand this? Before confronting the aisle bandit, the officers checked with the store employee to get the rundown and needed to know what happened and how to handle the suspect. >> So everything you tell me is truth. >> Yes, I do. >> All right, tell me. >> Okay, so I saw Penny enter the men's department. She selected various uh items, concealed them inside her little rolly cart, proceeded to go to the men's department, select clothing, then fragrances, and kept concealing them inside these huge bags, hiding them under that. and they were in the rolly car thing. >> Then she selected some jewelry and then headed over to the es elevator. >> Then when she got off the elevator cuz she was taking the jewelry off the card in the elevator. When she got off the elevator, she threw the card in the trash >> and had already concealed the necklace in her purse. >> What did the card have on it? Like >> it had a necklace. It's >> I mean what was on the card? Like the scanner and the price. Okay. >> Yeah. So she just had the the necklace in her purse naked. >> Right. Um, then she toled around upstairs for a little bit, tried on some dresses, finally went back downstairs where she concealed a few more men's clothing items inside the bag. >> Um, >> and then she worked her way out to the south entrance and exited without making any attempt to purchase what she had concealed in her bag. >> Did you watch this um on camera or on the floor? >> Both. >> Both in real time. >> In real time. >> Okay. With the troubling info in hand, the officer walked up to the suspect, silently, praying grandma wouldn't find a way to make the situation uglier. >> So, you can't come on >> mall property at all. >> Okay. If you come on mall property in the next 18 months, you're subject to arrest. Okay. >> And that's on video. >> The her being told that cuz they come back and like, I didn't know that. You're on video and uh you've been you've been >> What do you mean mall property? mall property. So, anywhere in the mall, not just Nordstrom, the entire like the you know how there's a ring road around the mall. >> You can't come anywhere within that. >> How do I get my gown for the wedding? I >> call and have somebody bring it [music] to you. >> You have to have somebody else pick it up for you. >> She was in the midst of altering it. >> No, I had She wasn't because you haven't finished the transaction. >> No, I came down my phone and she was waiting going to call her. >> That's all right. I'll have her bring it down cuz it was your own goods. You'd already purchased it, [music] correct? >> I don't know. I don't know. No, I >> Did you bring it with you? >> Not the one that I >> I need Barretta, please. >> Maybe she didn't pay for it and she dropped. >> Did >> Did you bring it in a box? >> No, the one I brought in a box we returned. >> Okay. So, she was doing >> No, no, no. So, there's nothing. Everything's null and void. You didn't even pay for it. >> No, we were in the process of doing >> No. Well, unfortunately, you've you Nordstrom has catered you enough today. You won't be able to purchase anything. And actually, you trespassed from Nordstrom for a period of 2 years. And that includes the rack and everything else. I'm going to give you those paperwork as well. And that includes online, email, phone orders, nothing. Don't even think Nordstrom for two years. Hey, Marissa. So, cancel with your ladies. uh alteration, cancel her sale, cancel everything. >> She has just uh Yeah, it's a felony. >> Let's tally up first. >> Is this >> Did she Did she already return the dress? Yeah, that's stuff she stole. All >> she hasn't returned. >> How much do you have so far pricewise? >> Oh, shoot. >> Yeah, that'll add it up real quick cuz it'll be a lot. Hold on. 88150. >> Yeah. 88150. >> And I'll give you a list in just a second. >> What's What's your name? >> Penny. I'm going to need you to stand up. I'm going to have to search you. >> That's mine. >> Yeah. You're under arrest. You can't take it with you. >> Well, I'm leaving. >> You're going to jail. Felony. >> You stole a felony amount of money or amount of products. Misdemeanor. You have misdemeanor and felony. >> The type of crimes. >> Misdemeanor. You could have been released with a notice to up here, but >> nope. It's a felony amount. Law dictates how much a felony amount is. Anything over $270 is a felony amount. What you guys are doing now? >> What do you mean? Should I call you? Then she got in a mock like, "Oh, let's go." >> No, you're under arrest. You can call somebody when you get down to the jail. >> Now I can't go after anybody. >> You're going to jail. There's no way you >> No, it's a felony amount. You have to go to jail. >> Okay. You are now suffering the consequences of your actions. Put your hands against your um >> I'm putting your dress in your bag. >> I I have to search you. So, I'm going to let you know touching your areas. >> Can I call my husband? I got to find my phone. That's what I was going to find. >> Well, you can't leave here to go find your phone. So, there's nothing you can do. >> You can call him from the jail here. She's going to be stared down. is I do not have the authority to allow to say whether you can or cannot use their phones. I'm going to touch your foot and search. >> Is there anything at all I can do? No. >> No. You did it. You committed felony theft and you're going to county jail. >> Grandma couldn't hide behind old age today, but that didn't stop her from digging up every worn out tactic she had perfected over the years. >> There's no if we don't prosecute, they do. [music] We don't uh have any say in it. The judge does. >> So, when you take me to jail, what happens? >> I'm going to take you to the PD. You're going to go to our holding facility. We're going to process the paperwork, all of your property. We're going to transport you to the county jail on Gun Club Road in West Palm Beach, and you'll either bond out or stay there till first appearance, where you'll see the judge, and then state, you know, then from then on, you're in in their care and custody and to do with whatever they do with you. >> Okay. So, um, bond out. When do we find out how to bond out? >> You'll have to talk to them down there. Once we take you to county jail, you're out of our hands. You're in the you're in the justice system then with the with the judge and the and the uh the correctional facility. >> Yeah, I'm um I know you don't care, but I'm on strong medication, too. >> Okay. You'll let them know that as well. They have a nurse down there. >> Yeah. Well, they won't have what I have. I got >> That's not my problem. >> Yep. I I I feel I feel for you. You have medication you have to take. But you you think if it was that important, you wouldn't do a felony amount of theft where you go to county jail and you're without >> I didn't plan on stealing this stuff. I know you don't believe me, but I didn't. I was going out to find my >> I don't believe you cuz you removed some of the stuff from the items that would that would that would prevent it from being a necklace that I didn't even remember doing, but that's all right. I >> I don't know what else. But if I could call my husband, he could at least know [cough] where I'm going to be. >> I'm going to have him take her hold off. >> Apparently, she pulled the necklace off the box and then pocketed it in the bag, too. She came in with empty bags. >> Mhm. >> She filled her bags. >> No, I had the bags with the stuff. >> I got you. I've been doing this for 25 years. I know what's happening. >> The bags. >> Yeah, >> I got I know what's happening. >> Sent to my house. Okay, I understand. >> We're not talking about that dress so we can start doing the paperwork inside. >> And the people that you're going to be telling the story to have have heard it all as well. >> We already know. >> Yeah. >> Is there any way anybody can check to see if my phone was in my car? >> No. >> I was just running out quickly to get the >> I know you were my phone. >> All right. Hang on to this and we'll put it in your purse here in a minute. Okay. So, Penny, this is all the items that you took today. Like that, you know. So, I'm going to let you, like I said, I'm going to let you use this to >> walk to the car and then once we get to the car, I'll put you in handcuffs. Okay. All right. Hold on. Before Before you get in there, I have to put you in handcuffs. Okay. >> Is that really necessary? >> Yes, ma'am. >> It is a policy. I don't care if it if it makes life easier for you. Right. Other hand, please. >> In the end, she was charged with felony theft.