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all right mark so on a scale of one to ten how on think about it for a minute for just answering on a scale of one to ten how honest have you been with us [Music] healthwatch is five six in late 2021 new mexico state police were called to a house where they found mark valencia in the driveway with blood on his hands inside the house they found two people dead state police detectives interviewed valencia back at the station he stated a fight broke out over a bad haircut not a good day yesterday so you live with eva well she lives with me she lives with you yes uh who is she to you she's my girl she's my girlfriend girlfriend yes and you guys have been dating for how long about a year what about a year about a year yeah and has she lived with you this whole time yes yeah yes do you have any children no um so you guys woke up and you're both kind of sick with the head cold and then walk me through the day we got up we you know got together i fixed the carport and put up lights and it was a good day it was a decent day you know for us and it was a regular day and you know we ended up going to our uncle dave's that you know he was like well we'll give you toilet paper and this and that and he's like well i gotta you know i got something for you guys and that was when the alcohol started drawing again is that what he meant by yeah okay and a lot of times that's that's my problem i don't she's an alcoholic i'm an alcoholic so it does not mix okay and so you know i mean i told her you know you know it's fine with uncle dave but alcohol does not always necessarily mean good for us okay you know and he started drinking and hanging out and uncle dave actually about stephen which was actually like he thinks of him as a son okay but i mean we we've seen them here and there so you know we hang out and whatever and then we started you know he cut his hair he cut my hair and he started getting an attitude with me and i was just like dude just stop and steve did yeah okay and it just started kind of growing from there and he took a shower and i was like okay and he just as soon as he got in the shower you know i was talking you know with uncle dave and eva and he started kind of you know in his mouth like oh well you know this and that i started getting annoyed and i was just like dude you need to stop you need to stop just leave me alone and it started growing start growing i'm not a violent person i'm not but when i need to protect myself i will and i i've done my level three security i've done all that so i am armed and you know i told me you need back off dude you need to back off stop and it just started growing and one thing went to another and everything started it's to me it's it's nightmare it is it's something that i it's nightmare to me it you is i i didn't want anything to grow and i will defend myself the best that i can and that's just how i am you know i will protect myself and i'll protect who's with me sure things just got around and that's what happened so when you and eva came over uh how did you guys get to uncle dave's i go you drove what what kind of car did you drive uh the chevy valve and whose car is that it's yours it's great so were you guys drinking when the haircuts happen yeah yeah uh what did steve start throwing your attitude for he just i don't know like i mean he cut half my hair and i was like dude really like only half of it yeah i'm like really dude like i mean come on that's just like okay i'm gonna cut half here you need to get out and i was just like dude really i was like man opera like come on and so it started going from there and you know he finished and took a shower and then he come he came out and it just started growing from there and started getting an attitude with me and i was just like you know what just he stopped dude and it just started growing and started growing i was like no dude no you know wanted to just fight with me and i was just like no dude like i'm not no stop right you sound kind of thing stop leave me alone just you know what he's like well come on you know and how how tall is he he's about a six foot about six foot six two what do you look like big guy shaved head now fresh haircut yeah okay well yeah both of us know okay except i have the beard okay so you know boom so i started in the bathroom and then kind of continued where where were you guys when it continued and watching tv and he was there too and were you guys sitting down were you yeah we were sitting down and then we stood up and i was like dude you need to stop bro he was like i don't care like you know he kind of got lucky with me and i was like no dude stop please stop late and what happened yeah go from there okay and by growth from there i i'd like to hear what your perspective of grew from there is natural stuff and you know tell him around like you need to get away from me you know because i felt threatened i felt that i mean come on he's a lot bigger than me okay he wanted to fight with me did he say that yeah yeah what did he say he said you know what like you know let's go outside i told him i was like you know what no i like just let's just squash it i tried i tried and i tried to talk to him and you know you know what no let's go outside let's do with this you know what i tried to calm it and he just kept on pushing and then finally i just got them up and they went to the other and i felt that and i felt that i had to protect myself okay what made you feel threatened he's a big dude like seriously yeah you know i mean you know yeah i can protect myself but i mean he's a big dude what was uh eva and david doing during this time they were there you tried to come in between and she tried and i i told her i was like babe stop like you know what i i don't want to fight with him either but she kept on getting in and she got in the way and it just left from one thing to another and it it got around very quickly very quickly and i didn't i i didn't mean to i didn't i really didn't didn't mean to what i i told him to back away and then i stepped back and i shot at him okay the people got in the way and i ended up giving her and i didn't mean to i didn't need to i really didn't like it mean to i know she was trying to step in for me and trying to get me back right and that's your girl well she was protecting him too and i'm like babe don't stop just get out of the way and he kept on coming at me and i felt like you know stop just just you know what no i don't want this like he's threatening me he's a bigger dude than me like really no i i can't like i don't know what he can do he's always said that he was trained and he could do this he could do that and i'm like well you can like okay so uh you said you shot at him and eva was in the way i'm curious when you went to the house did you carry your gun with you i carry it and my my the bottom of my driver's seat okay and so it's always open so if any pd pulls me over i tell them hey you know it's here it's open i'll even put it back up i'll put it where the middle console's at put it in the top whatever you need okay just so you know it's all right so i mean uh yeah you know i don't hide it no so when you went in the house very first time you went in the house did you have your gun with you or was it in the car no it was in the car okay i went out because i told him you need to stop dude because i felt threatened that he kept on crashing and no that's nonsense so and i i felt that because i mean i don't i don't think that's the best thing i could have done but for me it's like okay well this dude's bigger than me what's he gonna do if he pounds the crap out of me and did you know steve before tonight and you you met him how many times probably a couple of times a couple of times two three four how many two three oh three about three two three times and um he's come over to the house he stayed with uncle dave and he's helped him you know fix his house and that's where you know him through data okay and has he been confrontational like this with you in the past do you know what caused him to be that way tonight i don't i don't i don't like it kind of floored me too because usually he's you know we get a lot of fun but tonight just you know he he seemed like he was kind of fancy and i was like i was like brother you know usually like we can talk whatever and we can you know he doesn't cause anything to talk and it's fine yeah but tonight i i i don't even know what what was going on but yeah that's what i led to and the half a haircut kind of started it all i guess like it was just like really half a haircut why did he eventually finish your haircut or did you well yeah he did yeah okay yeah um what kind of gun is it that you have i have a sprinkled nine millimeter and is it a semi-automatic gun it's a sm automatic what color is it it's black black yeah i have it registered in my name okay for level three okay yeah and um what type of ammunition do you usually have in it um i do hollow points or i do full metal jackets do you know what it had in it tonight uh i think full metal the full metal yeah usually i don't carry that usually i carry the house but tonight you think it was a full metal hooker yeah all right um so was it just the one shot that you shot two you shot twice twice okay so welcome walk me through the the actual part where you shot don't shout twice that's all back up so where were you where was he you're in the living room okay i was outside the door the front door front door and he started coming at me and that's when i shot him but and i sat back and you will somehow i don't know i mean i'm shocked three times usually it's twice and then one okay so so two or three times maybe did you see uh anything in steve's hands when he was coming out towards you i didn't know what he had with him okay and i didn't want to risk it because i don't know what he's carrying okay i mean the knife or something is a lot quicker than a gun so i didn't want to risk it and i kind of felt like okay well if he's coming at me i need to protect myself okay so so you're standing outside the front door and he's coming towards you um in your words you said you could have handled it better right what do you mean you could have handled it better where'd you go where did you go used some judo you know that that's how all of us are training you know just you can step back and talk to them but i mean when they're coming at you it's kind of different have you taken judo classes yes i have yeah we're at i i took it with fred banking up in albuquerque in albuquerque and uh you mentioned like two shots here and one shot here where did you learn that other than that from fred bacon okay yeah um any military experience law enforcement you know kind of with you know state fair and stuff and you know with my training at level three they teach you different things different tactics whatever okay so i mean i like i said i could have dealt with it maybe a little bit different but so help me when when something comes into yeah you know like that you you don't really know how to react so it was kind of different i mean i haven't really had to react with somebody no right so it was a lot different and it just it it happened like it wasn't i don't even know how to explain it like it was different it wasn't like i've dealt with a lot of different situations this was a lot different how was it different because this was somebody that i've actually met that you know it's i've known and i didn't think that would do something like that right so it's kind of weird took you by surprise kind of dead i did okay so you get there the gun stays in the car you get your hair cut the altercation kind of begins what time did you guys get to the dave's house oh i kind of remember it was like probably earlier it was like no it wasn't it was dark it was dark it was probably about maybe six thirty ish somewhere in there and so it was it was dark it was and you guys start drinking and go to haircuts how long did the argument last in the bathroom like for the haircut and stuff yeah it wasn't really that long just you know it was kind of quick and it was just like dude i'm like what's wrong with you like come on and it kind of just all right well finishes and put the shower whatever and then after the shower then that's when it like kind of got worse and you guys were aware at when it got worse in the living room watching tv yeah so at some point you go outside to get your gun is that right yeah yes and then you come back and you're on the deck and he comes out towards you and that's when you two maybe three times yes and then what happens after you shoot him and you said eva got in the way what she stepped in front of him okay so she's she kind of stepped in front of him and i i looked and i didn't really snap because i mean like i was focusing on him and it just she stepped in the way and she was telling me to stop and i i i don't know what happened i i don't like i i was focused on him and then when she got in the way it was just like i did not mean to like her that's my girl like yeah so what'd you do next when i looked and i was just like but what the like what happened like why like and you know i looked at steve and i looked at uncle dave and i was just like where was uncle dave dreaming was in the living room where was he at another room on the couch right here so between the kitchen and the living room yes yeah so yes he has one of those older beds that comes up and down he was sitting on that and that's where he was at and he freaked out and he started getting like he's like what happened and it was just it was a lot to take in it really was it just it was a lot you know especially uncle dave i mean all his stuff that he has to deal with and then our stuff you know eva and we usually stick together this sauce you even dance so usually steve's not even there and where's steve live he's homeless okay so it kind of made things a lot worse than it ought to be it does with him being there okay so uncle dave says what happened and then did you talk to him i just kind of just zoned out and i went outside and where'd you go outside but i just went outside i went to my car and that's where i remember pd showed up and that's really in your car yeah that's the only thing i remember okay do you remember what happened with your gun you don't know where it's at okay i put it the last thing i remember i put it in my car in your car yeah in my car you know where somewhere down low yeah right on the bottom where i usually keep it okay that's that's the last thing i remember was just putting it down going like trying to take everything in just thinking about everything do you remember unloading it or manipulating it at all when you put it down no do you remember how many rounds were in your magazine don't remember okay and i mean stupid i mean like seriously drinking and that is no usually i don't ever that's not something that i put in there at all how's your relationship with eva good i mean we have our fights i mean but ups and downs like everything yeah yeah what do you usually fight about stupid stuff like what you're drinking this or you're doing this or how come you didn't clean how come you didn't feel the toilet paper you know just basic stuff just little stuff i mean we made smallers the other night and it was uh we made tomorrow's there's still tamales in my freezer too yeah so it you know i mean we we have fun most of the time and it just it's it's little stuff you know and yeah what couple doesn't really fight about that sure you know were you guys arguing at all tonight fighting it all tonight yeah pretty peaceful pretty peaceful except with whatever happens with you know steve but other than not no we weren't fighting okay you know we went to uncle dave's to get toilet paper and hang out that was about it you know i did not know we we didn't fight so like this whole thing i it sucks i i mean i i don't know exactly what went down or what happened i know steve's gone other than that i do you know how you hurt your hand that was from the outside yeah that was all outside yeah from outside what do you mean outside i cut it outside i was i was putting stuff away in my tote and yeah i got it you caught it yeah is there any other cuts on your hands no no except like this like you know when i grabbed him i was like oh my god who did you grab i got steve steve where did you grab him and he grabbed his head and i was like i'm sorry like oh my god like i freaked out and you know i got evil and i got both of them i mean it it scared the [ __ ] out of me because i was like oh my god like what just happened right what just happened why why like when we were finding what five ten minutes ago and they're all sending this like what happened so it escalated that quickly it just it shocked me and it shunted it shouldn't have happened like it did you know but i'm scared i i love her and that's all i can think about like that's the only thing that i thought about when i was getting arrested i was like okay well what's going on they got uncle dave they got me and i was like okay well where's eva and i haven't heard anything so when they arrested you you didn't have shoes on do you know do you remember yeah no i hadn't i had just my socks on yeah did you kick off your shoes relaxing yeah who were you guys watching christmas movies christmas movies movies [Music] so i've been to uncle dave's house and i walked through there and looked at things and i appreciate your agreeing to talk with us in your statement but there's there's some stuff you left out and there's there's evidence at dave's house that shows us a lot more happened than what you said and i just want to make for sure that that's that's your recollection of what happened that's what it was that is did anybody else yeah no well uncle dave has his 22 that's about it where's that kept at usually he has it by the couch what color is that one no i'm not a pistol or rifle you know it's a rifle right hanging rifle yeah did you see it tonight no i didn't see it not that i know okay so i guess so mark i just had a few other questions and i understand this is traumatic so make take your time um how much so you were you you were drinking relaxing do you know how much you drink you remember we drank a lot and when i'm not gonna lie like we drank yeah straight straight what about what about maybe beard so when you say we you amen eva and steve and this is in about how many hours probably about three three hours three four hours okay and during what about what about and i just have to ask um any drug use or anything no no no just alcohol disou okay yeah i don't do drugs no okay good yeah because that's tough that that's a black hole especially around especially around here yeah well that close come on yeah um so so i'm just gonna be straight up with you okay i think everyone everyone has to come to terms with something with what they've done whether it's in whether it's today or next year i i can see i can see this is this is struggling this is this is this is already eaten at you this is eating at you and it's going to continue to eat at you and you know how you get rid of that is you just just let it all out you don't let it out it's going to eat at you you're going to lo you're going to lose you're going to lose your identity of who you identify as okay you're not going to be the same person you let this eat at you okay and this is the time to let that out this is the time like i said i mean that's the only thing that i remember yeah i mean i would never do anything to hurt uncle dave or evil or anybody in general okay ever and i believe you but sometimes people make they make badness they make mistakes you said it yourself you wish you could have handled it differently and i believe you you're i don't think you're a violent person one of these people is a reckless ill regard for her life but i'm i'm something tragic happened tonight would you agree so let's just let's just slow down and let's just start from the beginning okay you you you got the gun who did you shoot first well i just remember shooting steve that's the only one that i remember shooting and evo was in the way that was the only one did did eva get hit by a gunfire yeah where my friendly i i don't know if she got shot in her chest or and then then did you shoot steve again i shot him twice i know i did i shot him twice and what did you do to right after that he went up to my car and that was the last thing i remember did you ever shoot at dave no no did you ever point the gun at dave no no i did not i did not point the gun at uncle dave okay did you ever fire any rounds towards him no no no okay that was steve was the only one that i remember shooting at okay that was the only one that i remember because i felt that that was that and and did at this point did before the shooting did he ever say hey mark i'm gonna [ __ ] you up i don't know if he was just like let's go outside we'll do with this his body language yeah it's god's eyes that [Music] when you went out to your car to get your gun why not just go home i thought about it too but i didn't want to leave eva either so it was like oh no i you know i don't know i mean i probably could have just told her and let's go now you know let's go home let's get out of here let's get on the situation but i didn't really think about it like that because you're because you were mad i was mad but at the same time i was just like well like dude like step off like step off you know and he kept on saying stuff like this blah blah blah and i'm like no this is uncle dave's house it's not yours no you know so it kind of it escalated a lot of things and so basically what i'm hearing is he he checked you and you didn't want you weren't going to take that especially in front of your girl like i mean it was just do you remember the shooting i remember i saw him i do i remember i saw him and what what were you aiming at anything any body part in particularly don't get away from me and i shout them twice in the chest okay that's all i remember that that was about it i wasn't focusing on yeah i'm gonna shoot you in your head or no i wanted to get away from me just you know the threat was gone and then i went away so so okay so mark i'm about to tell you you're gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna be straight up with you okay i'm gonna be honest with you you're a man i'm a man agent harwell's a man we're all adults here and like i said i'm firm believer that one day all of us have to answer for our actions whether that's whether that's through your religion i'm catholic a lot of us here okay okay i'm catholic too i know i am i don't i did but you know but you know the first part of forgiveness right is accept you have to accept you have you have to own that mistake you have to own what you did because no one else did it but you that's how you begin that's how you move forward right i went to church i was confirmed in catholic church where you still go to church you pray you pray regularly you go to church right here regularly do you follow the ten commandments do this like on purpose i felt i i didn't do it on purpose i believe you i believe you but something tragic happened and you know you you you know mark okay she got shot in the head she's dead no yes yes mark [Music] yes steve's dead too agent harwell and i walked through that house mark we we sent me away neither sergeant jurgen syndrome is gone and we don't believe you did it on purpose somebody that does it on purpose doesn't doesn't stay there and wait i want to die i want to die i wanna die i don't wanna live without her i don't so here's the thing mark okay there's some some questions we need answered because like i said agent harwell and i walk through that home and there's there's numerous bullet holes in that house so this is the time to come clean with us like i said i don't remember anything all i remember is shooting steve that was it i don't remember anything else after that there's bull holes in uh dave's uh beer there's ball holes in the door i don't remember anything other than that i don't know you don't remember shooting the door oh no the door opened when steve was coming towards you yeah the door was open when he came at me that's all like i said that's all i remember do you ever remember making the comments how i'm gonna get my i'm gonna go get my gun no oh eva stayed in the house when you went to get your gun let anybody come out of the house with you nothing because i think you know you're here's here's what i think mark okay alcohols alcohols flowing not a good thing to me not a good thing to mix alcohol and firearms steve's been bugging bugging you all night you had it up to here you're fed up he was checking you in front of your in front of your girlfriend and you got that gun to scare him but what happened was you ended up shooting her and you shot him because you said yourself he checked you and you weren't okay with that especially in front of her so you're going to teach teach him a lesson you're going to show him that you're the one that he should be worried about not you be worried of him i don't care about that like i i didn't mean to like it to escalate that bad well what was the reason for getting the gun then you said yourself you thought i maybe i should just leave i mean maybe i should but i i still went back and i shut down but i still didn't want to leave with the leave back because you wanted to show him that he's to be afraid of you two these are the questions that we're asking you because there's a lot there's if you picture your your story like a line there's gaps in that line there's only like there's only things that i remember and that's it like i all i remember is i was in the car and that's when petey showed up and they took me and they arrested all of us after that but i don't remember i remember a little bit of shooting steve you know but i don't remember like i thought he was with me and what about david he was in the living room that was about it where did he go he was just in the living room he wasn't outside with me i haven't known saturn i was sitting in my car so you said you go get your gun you come back steve comes at you and you shoot him twice eva gets in the way i i shot more than twice okay i did okay thank you ah obviously i mean because otherwise she wouldn't have been in the way and she obviously would still be alive i i don't like i don't remember her being in the way i don't like how that even got no how she got there i don't know maybe she was trying to protect you i don't know but so here here's the thing mark okay this critical incidence happened okay we've talked to a lot of people involved and i understand i understand that uh everyone everyone in their relationship has that everyone has their own problems and their own issues but your and her relationship was more than that right basically she would beat up on you and you would beat up on her one wednesday we had our times like i mean okay it was back and forth but it wasn't like did you ever go to jail for beating her up no how about how about her do you ever call the cops on her but just the other day you guys gotten a little tiff we did but i mean it's not like a constant thing like i mean it's not constantly i even heard that she stabbed stabbed you once no or with scissors or something no she scratched me scratch it okay that was it that was not a stab [ __ ] once you scratch with her nails she always had sharp nails yeah that was it it was no she did not ever stop me okay but you did get into this little tiff last night right before the night before excuse me really what couple doesn't fight i agree but not everything it's not something that like we constantly do all the time but not everyone not everyone goes gets physical people maybe not everyone gets into a physical fight you gotta agree sometimes we argue there's sometimes it's physical yeah it's not good but i mean it can go either way like i mean we'll yell each other but other than that no it's not all the time like i don't care i believe you i believe you i'm not saying i'm not saying that happens every day i'm all i'm saying is that your guys's fights have been more than just verbal you gotta you agree with me on that of course like i mean they've been they've been rough a couple of times yeah of course that's all that's all i'm asking i'm not here to i'm not here to make you feel like [ __ ] i'm not here to beat you down i'm just asking these questions because we look into these things we look into every aspect of these things and assume when we ask you these questions we want to see how honest you're going to be what kind of person is mark because we've never met you before i would always protect her like she's like we were always together we would go a lot of places um do you want do you want to water okay we're gonna take a little break get you some water just i'm just just standing is there anybody that has a cigarette oh my god i got a cigarette when we can't smoke in the office let me give us a little minute let us get some water get you some water we'll be right back uh uh wow uh gee she key brother i'm sorry that you have to i'm so sorry man oh it's not good bro it's fire from good or whatever you think you did to me man gee shhh so all right mark so on a scale of one to ten how on think about it for a minute for just answering on a scale of one to ten how honest have you been with us and why not 10. why not 100 percent honest when you shoot when you certify what is what do you always tell you there's always that one percent that you may be off right that's not the training that i've received no i i'm always a hundred percent always um and when you ask yeah i am i have not lied no i put that on my hook and i put that on him i have not lied okay as far as i know and everything to my heart i have put my hundred percent into telling you all that i know all that i remember okay that's i'm just asking i'm asking oh that i remember i'm putting 100 and i'm not buying i'm not sugarcoating it like i know it could have been handled probably differently yeah i would i think there's a better way it could have been him but it wasn't and we've got over that it wasn't handled that way sergeant jorgensen and i are here to get your side of the story and i think that whether intentional or not there's some parts that are left i don't think you're lying at all i don't think you're a bad person i think that this this guy kept bugging you kept pushing you kept pushing all your buttons until something had to happen that would not do it did you drive over there intending to kill no not ever i took tamales though tonight are they red or green red red like the reds better well we i can make both we have to make both i got pork yeah so i can make oh like i i didn't even expect steve to be there it didn't matter if he was there or not has he never heard of him before we've never had a problem with him ever is there anything else about your statement you'd like to add to the best of my knowledge this is all i know okay well that's fair enough man so you've been through a lot tonight that's my best friend hey girl do you have family here in pickles well let's use my rounds i'm valencia ranch that's my rounds you've been standing with who do you mom and dad's alive my dad died two years ago what about your mom my mom's still alive and she's still hurting but is she here in town i want you anyone that can come to take care of your dog they can call me on a car man does she live here in pekos yeah carmen what's her last name hill i used to be a patrol here you know cheesedo yeah that's one of my best that's one of my best boys right there really yeah good guy i am one of the co-founders of bloody fast fire department okay wow my dad was carlos valencia we built that fire department bill and jamed sweeney again you'll learn very quickly who i am i believe i've always been a civil servant always so i can call me out to take care of my dog okay you know you guys are taking my jelly up do you know her number like i said um you're certainly not free to leave before we start talking um you are detained so we have to work the rest of this out something like this can't be resolved in an hour or two but um i don't think i have any other questions agent verwell mark i don't have any other questions i i appreciate you talking with us uh you still want a cigarette all right it's a little cold outside i'm not the birthday now i really don't even really know valencia's trial will be held in october of 2022 he faces two first-degree murder counts and a few other weapons charges
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