Is this really a free country? Hey everybody, welcome to Dr. Judge. Dr. Judge says it's supposed to be a free country. But we're going to watch a little video tonight and it's Listen. I don't Uh if if you watch this channel very often uh First of all, for those of you that have never watched this channel, I'm David Ridings. I am Dr. Judge. I am running for judge in Nashville, Tennessee. The DR Judge just means David Ridings Judge. Um it it came to be uh just kind of accidentally. But uh now it's kind of caught on and that's, you know, that's okay. I just um I have feelings strong feelings about these auditors. And by auditors, I mean the the people that go around with the video cameras and they try to instigate trouble. Uh I particularly have problems with the Second Amendment auditors. We're not going to do a video on that tonight, but I I will do one in I'll do one next week. And I'll show you the one that I have the most trouble with. But Second Amendment auditors, they walk around with something that looks like a rifle attached to their like shouldered over their uh chest. And they'll they'll have on body armor and they'll just look all militarized out. And what they're ha what they have around their shoulder is not actually a rifle, it's actually a pistol. But it's because of the length of the barrel and the fact that it's got a pistol grip and sometimes it's got one of those um It it's it looks like a stock, but it's not a stock. It's a pistol grip holder that wraps around your arm and makes the the thing that looks like a stock on a rifle makes it a pistol grip. And then they get they walk around in a public park and somebody's going to call the police on them cuz they're walking around with what they call an an assault rifle. It's not an assault rifle. And then the police, of course, are called and they come out and they investigate. And then we'll watch one of those videos next week and I'll tell you why I don't like them doing it. The one we're going to watch tonight is a first amendment auditor group called Auditing America. They've come They've become pretty popular. Um the and hence why they do this. They they don't do it because they care necessarily about um people's rights and you know, I'm a I'm a criminal defense attorney. So, obviously, I represent people charged with crimes. I'm a former police officer for those of you that don't watch this channel very often. Uh I'm a former police officer. I'm an attorney. I represent people charged with crimes. I'm running for judge in Nashville. And by the way, like this video, share this video, and comment on this video. It helps the algorithms and it uh and it keeps the show interesting. Because if you comment on the video, I will put your comment on uh the live stream, which we are live right now. So, this Auditing America group um Let's see if I can get full screen mode. There we go. Let me just let you watch this video and then we're going to talk about it and I'll skip through a couple of places that I, you know, that they get a little bit boring. They're in a a a DMV, a Department of Motor Vehicle license driver's license uh um place where you go to get your driver's license. Do you have tickets for service? And here comes the first interaction with uh not a police officer, but more than likely a security guard. Somebody went back there and told him, "Hey, they got these guys out here videoing and it just makes me uncomfortable." You know, the thing that I wanted to focus on this video the most is the way the public reacts to these guys videoing. I I mean say what you want to about whether or not it's legal, which it is completely legal for them to be there. Why does the public care? But some of these guys, they're they're going to get involved. You're going to hear one of the guys say, "Well, if you're a if you're a member of the press, you're supposed to have press passes and you're supposed to have them visible." No, you're not because of this little thing called the First Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, or the right of the people to peacefully uh peaceably assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Now, that says a whole lot. Freedom of the press is is is a large part of the First Amendment. And anybody can be press. You don't have to have a press pass to be the press. You might have a have to have a press pass to get into the White House. Like Auditing America, they're not going to be able to walk up there with their iPhones and say, "Hey, I'm a member of the press. Let me in the the White House press conference room." They're not going to get in. Cuz there are restrictions in that building that prevent them from getting in unless they have press passes. In the Department of Motor Vehicles, there are no such rules. They have some rules posted in the lobby that you're not you're not to come in there and create a disturbance and then you'll you'll see that talked about here in just a minute. Um but these guys have every right to be where they are. And for the people that say, "Well, I don't want uh they're you they're profiting off of videoing me in in a public place and I don't want my image on their YouTube channel." Well, go wait in your car. Cuz it looks like they're videoing the inside of the DMV. And guess what? They have a right to do that. And you being in a public place have given the right of anybody in that public place to see you. You've given the right of of the public place that you're in to video you if they have surveillance videos like the DMV clearly has surveillance videos. And not only that, we're getting into a day and age of facial recognition uh like you've never seen before. Don't even get me started on that. But some of these places are eventually going to have facial recognition that's going to be able to track you when you go into a a public government building. So if you think you have a right to privacy in a public building, you're mistaken. You can't because you clearly do not. So let's keep watching. No, it it is a pri- it is a private place. It's state property. Okay, who funds the state? Nothing about the cameras? Okay, who funds the state? I just want to know if you have tickets or if you're waiting for somebody. Well, we we're And what? Why would that matter if you have tickets or if you're waiting for somebody? The The truth is it doesn't matter. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. This guy's trying to uh scare them into leaving because he has no authority to ask them to leave. We're We're here on official business, yes. For What's the official Are you part of a business? We're press. Yes. And most of the time these guys will say, "I'm sorry, I don't answer questions." Well, when Now, this is not a police officer, so they're not to the level that they want this video to be yet cuz they're not going to get as many views with this little security guard there cuz nobody cares about him. They're waiting for the real police to show up, and then they'll they'll be a little more standoffish. Typically speaking, then this particular video actually they're not. They actually do answer more questions than they normally do. But when the police come up, they'll typically say um "Hey, how you doing?" The police officer will say, "Hey, how you doing today? Um do you have any ID on you?" "Well, yes, I do, but I'm not going to show it to you." "Well, I'm I'm asking for ID. I want to know who I'm talking to." "Well, my name's Enrique," he says. "Okay. Well, do you have any ID?" "Yes." "Can I see it?" "No. I haven't I haven't been suspected of committing a crime. You don't have any reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. Therefore, you don't have the right to ask me for ID. Now, is that the law?" And it is actually the law. In Tennessee particularly, it's the law. Um Let me see if I can find this. So, in Tennessee, it is not illegal for you to refuse to give your ID to the police. In order for the police to ask you for ID they have to have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. This is not a stop and identify state in Tennessee. There are some states I don't know. I'm a Tennessee lawyer, so I don't profess to be an expert on the law in any other state. And I don't profess to be an expert in anything, but I do practice law, and I do know a a lot of a fair amount about criminal law. I used to be a police officer, and so I know a fair amount about being a police officer. And in Tennessee, you have the right not to show your identification. So, uh they will typically get stand offish about that with these police officers. Let's watch how this interaction goes, and then we'll talk a little bit more about it. Yes. Can I see documents? Um are we in a Nazi Germany or something? We're journalists conducting our business. We will give you all the information that you need at Correct. Correct. Okay. Well, do you guys have tickets up for service? Well, we're not getting service from them. We're working on a We're working on a Like we said, we're press. We're working on a story on the DMV. You actually have to show them your credentials, wouldn't Excuse me, sir. So, this guy right here, um he's what makes this video a little more interesting to me, in my opinion. Cuz he's just nobody sitting in a DMV. He's not anybody of authority. And he decides that he has the authority to tell these guys what the law is. Um excuse me, you have to have press passes and ID, and they have to be visible, and blah blah blah. Watch what he says, and uh see if you agree with him. Comment below. Tell me if you agree. When two When two grown men are speaking, when when two When two grown men are speaking, You have He's not a police officer. Um regardless of that, you don't It doesn't matter if he's a police officer. If the police officer asks you for press credentials, you're not required to give it to him. You're not required to give your ID to anybody who ask you unless there is reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. Now, we've talked about that before on this channel. Reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime means it has to be reasonable and you have to be able to say it. You have to be able to articulate it. And if if you can't say, "This is what I suspect you of doing and here's why." then you probably don't have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. So, let's see here. Let's keep watching. You have an assumption of privacy. So, you would have to create your own privacy. film in the DMV and this is a This is This is not Correct. Correct. We all You're violating my rights. No, no, no. Actually, She says, "You're violating my rights because I'm here in the DMV." Now, she's just a citizen. She's in there for uh reasons of unknown. I mean, she's in there to get something done with her driver's license or something like that. And she has the right to be in there. But, she's in a public place, which means that she's opened her image up to be viewed by anybody. And the courts say, "If a person can view you and store your memory and store your identity in their mind, uh if they can see you in a public place, then the mind is no different than a camera or a tape recorder. He could be recording and she not know it. And he is recording. He's recording audio and video. He could be in there with a with an audio um recorder in his pocket recording his conversation with whoever he wants to talk to. And he doesn't have to tell them that he's recording. If you're recording a conversation that you're a party to or you're within earshot of, you have the right to record everything that's within earshot of you. There's plenty of case law that says that's that's the law. And some people will disagree with that law, and that's okay. You can disagree with it, but it's still the law. the state. Actually, the public correct. The first correct. The first What's the first amendment, ma'am? Freedom of the press, freedom of speech. We're working on a story on the DMV. I don't want to be on So, you shouldn't you shouldn't you shouldn't you shouldn't be a public Which is fine, so We'll let you know who we are when we're done conducting business, sir. Do that. Do you have a right Yes, we can. Yes, I'm still going to call the Call the police. Call call whoever you want, sir. Okay. This poor guy says, "I'm uncomfortable, so I'm calling the police. You're making me uncomfortable." O- Okay. Call the police. You're feeling dis- Breaching the peace for for for society, you guys should understand We're working on a story, sir. You have to supply you have to have your credentials shown. No, we don't. Yes, you do. We know our rights, sir. Okay, good. Well, then what do you have? ABC, CBS? No, you're an internet I'm I'm an in- I'm independent, sir. So, you're independent. So, where are your cred- Where are your credentials right now? I know my rights, sir. I don't have to show them. I know my rights, too. Okay. So, you should know 25 years. I know my rights. Were you Were you in the military? Were you in the military? You're violating people's rights by doing There's no privacy in public. You're And you're not helping This gentleman, if I just show him your credentials We told him we will. But this gentleman over here is wearing a thin blue line, which is a desecration of the flag, so I don't really trust him, right now. Yes, it is. You're only supposed to wear the American Did you swear to protect the thin blue line or the or or or or the Constitution, sir? So, that goes a little far for me. Um I don't believe that's a desecration of the flag. It's an expression of somebody's belief and and their and in support of the police. Um there's lots of people who wear those little things that have a thin blue line through the through the flag. And basically what that means is that you know, in in a in a world of tyranny, there is a a blue line of of people who are here to protect and serve the public and it's just your support of the police. I support the police. I support the good police. I don't support the bad police. We have a a Facebook page called Policing the Police and we're live on that page right now. We're also live on doctorjudge.radio on Facebook. So, facebook.com/doctorjudge.radio youtube.com/doctorjudge. And uh if you are not subscribed to all of those channels, go do that right now because um well, you should be subscribed. That way you'll be notified every time we go live. So, why are you carrying a thin blue line patch on you? It's a free country. It's a free country, but it's a violation of flag code. Ooh, it's a free country, but I'm asking you to leave the freedom of the country in this particular vicinity because it's not a free country in here. That's my problem with this thing. He says it's a free country to do what you want to do and wear this little patch, yet I'm trying to intimidate you into leaving this place. So, let's skip ahead and show you how it does get it does get a little bit um more involved cuz the police do ultimately show up. And when the police show up, then you know, you're going to get a little bit different view. Do we have the right to be here, sir? I'm I'm talking to you. Okay. Do you have the right to be here? Yeah, because it's motor vehicle. We haven't been walking. What I guess what you guys don't understand is that people can't they can refuse to allow you to videotape and the officers here are How you doing, sir? No, they can't. Not when they're in public. How are you Good. What's going on here? We're here working on a story on the on the Department of Motor Vehicles. We haven't been walking around. You guys have your IDs on you? What chance? For what? I just like to know who I'm talking to. Well, I'm Enrique, nice to meet you. Um, what's your name? I'm Enrique. Enrique? Yes, sir. What's your name? I'm Chuck. Chuck, nice to meet you. Chuck, it's nice to meet How's it going, guys? Can I see your IDs real quick? Um, I do I do have my ID, but I'm not suspected of committing any crimes. I'm not being disorderly. I'm just working on a story. I'm acting as press. I'm working on a story on the Department of Motor Vehicles. Okay. Not impeding the business here. I'm not being disorderly. Mhm. Some So, that's what I'm talking about when we are teaching people on this channel about whether or not you have to present your ID. You don't. And some police officers will press that issue. This This guy didn't press it. He pressed it a little bit um, cuz he wanted to see the IDs, cuz he wanted to know who he's dealing with. But, when it came push came to shove, he didn't press it. Because he knows if he does press it, he's going to have to write in his report what his articulable reasonable suspicion of a crime was, and he doesn't have that yet. So, there is no crime here. Um, and and there's nothing there's really nothing to investigate. This is just a huge waste of everybody's time. He's not too happy about being on video, but he's he's being I guess that gentleman that left felt uncomfortable, but Well, are you guys from Connecticut? Are you from No, we're not we're not from here. We're just working on a story about about about this Department of Motor Vehicles. We have no ill intention. Okay. We uh specific, you know, DMV. We had a lot of requests We have a lot of requests for people to uh for us to make a video on on on this building right here. And we decided to show up and peacefully, you know, quietly Is it like a YouTube channel or something? Is that what Yeah. Yeah, so you do that. Yeah. What is What's the name? We'll We'll give you the information. See, I don't know why he doesn't just give him the name at this point. Go ahead and give him the name of YouTube channel cuz it's going to be public on YouTube and everybody around there will then go log on to whether they like you or not, they're going to log on to your YouTube channel just so they can see themselves on this video. You're going to get at least 1 2 3 4 5 6 You're going to get at least 30 more views if you say out loud we're from Auditing America. And you know, that's the the YouTube he uses. Which by the way, go check them out. If you like that kind of thing, I will say it is educational if if you're not someone that understands how to deal with police contact, these videos are useful in that they do teach something. Some Some channels are better than others. Uh there's one called Audit the Audit that's really good. Um it There's an attorney that uh that basically breaks down the the video of the auditors and says, "Hey, this is how This is how this person did. This person got an A. This person got an F. Here's why." And they'll stop it during the during the video and they'll say, "You know, here's the law in this area as far as identification is concerned." And they'll you know, they'll really educate you. So, some of these are very educational. When I meet with people, I'm a criminal defense attorney. When I meet with people, most of the people that I meet with have a little bit of a a little vague idea of what their rights are under the Constitution. And under the you know, basically what I deal with the most is the Fourth Amendment, the right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, and uh not be seized in your person except for by warrant. Uh and then a warrant can't be issued unless there's probable cause sworn by oath or affirmation in particular uh describing the place to be searched and the person or things to be seized. And then we deal a lot with the Fifth Amendment. No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime unless on a presentment of an indictment by the grand jury that goes on to say that you cannot be compelled to be a witness against yourself. You cannot be compelled to testify against yourself. Those are really crucial things. And you know what? Everybody ought to have them one of these. This is my little It's not a pocket one cuz it's a little bit bigger. I have a pocket one right here. Um There you go. That's That's small enough that it can go in my pocket. And when I go out on the campaign trail this this year, I'm going to have this with me. And when people stop and ask me questions about things, I'll just pull out my Constitution. You know, it's really It's It's a great conversation piece because most people have never read it. And there's so much good stuff in here that it's really crucial that you um spend a little time educating yourself on the Constitution. It It's just It's imperative in this day and age um that you do that. Now, we're going to be talking more about how we are starting a nonprofit organization to do that very thing and teach people on a large scale on how to deal with police contact and how to be pulled up. And then it's not a slight against the police. I love the police. I used to be a police officer and I'm a very supportive of the police. Uh you you're not going to see me ever say defund the police. That's ridiculous. It's the stupidest thing that's ever been said. And there are some bad cops. And I will be the first and people will tell you they've seen my channels. They've seen my videos. If If the cops do something stupid, I'm going to shine a light on it. And I'm going to I'm going to talk about them. I'm going to going to my finger at him. I'm going to laugh at him. I'm going to criticize them. If they if they do something stupid that leads to the death of somebody, I'm going to be all in favor of what happened to Derek Chauvin. He He deserves to be in prison. I'm going to get into whether or not the verdict was proper on all counts, but he deserved to go to prison. Derek Chauvin killed a man in front of a lot of people that did not deserve to die. George Floyd was in the the video of Derek Chauvin with his knee on the neck of George Floyd was one of the worst police body cams I've ever seen. I say one of the worst. It's probably top one or two. There's another one after that in Arizona, I believe, where they're dealing with a guy named Mario, and I've shown it on this channel before. I might do a little a little update on that, but it was equally repulsive. Um so, anyway. Hey, Wendy. Nice to see you as well. How do you get a copy of this? Oh, that's a good question. You know what I need to do? I'm going to I'm going to start I'm going to order these. Um for my campaign, and it it'll probably have somewhere on the back of it it'll say vote David Ridings for judge. Um this one says Hillsdale College. Uh so, Hillsdale College has them. The little pocket size ones are the are the best. Um this one's kind of a desktop size, and here you can tell the difference in the two sizes. This just easy This just easily fits in your pocket. Um but that's a good question. This one was sent to me, I think, by Rand Paul. And you know, they have them even smaller. This is a smaller even than this. You can tell the difference in the sizes there. So, this one's got a little bit more um meat to it. It's the Declaration of Independence and the amendments themselves. So, they're great little pieces. I will try to get those and and have them on my uh on my page as part of my merch. We're also going to have t-shirts. Um and I'll we'll we'll tell you about that once the t-shirts are in. They'll they'll be in next week. We're going to officially launch our campaign. You'll hear about that here on this channel. Um if you follow us on any of these uh mediums, whether it's YouTube or or Facebook or uh Instagram, then you'll hear about our launch and you can uh you can join us. You can even come out and join us on a live event. We're going to have a at least one prayer walk that I know of in Nashville. We're going to start at Legislative Plaza and we're going to walk down to the courthouse and we're going to pray over this city. I'm a Christian. I believe in Jesus and you know, I don't know what your stance is that that's watching this channel. Doesn't matter. Um that's that's what we're going to do. And you'll be invited to come be a part of that if you want to. Uh otherwise, uh let's get back to this video. As soon as we're done. How's that? Well, it's not going to work like that. Why? Hey, back that up. We'll we'll give you the information as soon as we're done. How's that? Well, it's not going to work like that. Why? Do you guys have your ID on you? I don't know if that was funny. He said, um "Do you have your ID on you?" Well, we'll we'll give you all the information when we're done. How about that? Well, it's not going to work like that. Cuz I've been taught in the academy that I'm supposed to not relinquish any power and authority like this and so I'm demanding to see your identification. He's pressing it a little bit farther at this point, but he he doesn't press too far. There's another cop that shows up in a few minutes that kind of takes over. Um and then he he tries to go a little farther before he realizes that's not going to work. So let's fast forward awareness of freedom of the press is a publicly funded place. We're not impeding No issue. There's no issue. Yeah, yeah, somebody wasn't feeling comfortable with us recording. Just inform them that You know, freedom of the first amendment. It's the first amendment. people asking for their press credentials they didn't get the chance. Correct. Because because sir, the our press credentials You're supposed to have them hanging out so you can see That's if you That's if you That's if you sell out to corporate media and then they give you a credential. But if you But the real press No problem here. So we're going to skip ahead and this is the cop that comes in and kind of takes over the scene. Let's watch what happens. Yo, what's up, brother? Nothing much. Just working on a story. What kind of story? Sure. What's your name? Do you have a name badge on you? 1126 whoever. Nice to meet you. I'm Enrique. What story are you working on, man? The DMV. Now this is normally where he would say, "I'm sorry, I don't answer questions." But this guy's a trooper and he comes with a little bit of air about him. So let's see how that works out for him. Okay, cool. All right, first 202011 want to warn you somewhere? I'm sorry? Is there a 1011 to deter you? We don't answer questions. Well, that's where you run into a little problem. You see what I'm saying? We You see what I'm saying? Sorry, what's your name? I'm Enrique. Nice to meet you. Well, I have to pause the video for that one, Wendy. That was a very nice thing to say. I would be a fair judge. I'm a little biased as to whether or not I would be fair. But having served on every side of the criminal justice system, I've been a cop and I've worked for the DA's office. I've been a defense lawyer and if you go far enough back, I was in the backseat a couple of times, too. So, I've seen every side of the law. I haven't always been well, never mind. That's for another day. I'm not going to tell stories on myself tonight, but that was a very kind of you to say. I don't care if you're filming in here. Okay. Okay. These two officers right here have been extremely cordial. They know They can explain to you everything that you want to hear, but right now you might want to stop. Stop what? What you're telling me. What am I telling you? You might want to speak with them. They already know everything, so you might want to stop the investigation. I'm in charge of this state building, so that's why we're here. So, so who funds this state? What do you mean? Who funds this state building? We're not getting into that. Why do you Okay, so I I fund it, too, right? So, I responded here because we got a call for service, so I will be taking over. Yeah, these these these gentleman over here guys said that he's going to investigate because we've been committed a crime. No, I didn't say that. How do you say that then? Okay. We just explained to him we're working on a story. What's going on? Tell me what happened. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll explain to you, sir. I'll explain to you. Okay. We just explained to them we're working on a story. How is it funny, sir? Explain to me how it's funny cuz I'd like to let you know. Please elaborate. Sir, we're not doing anything wrong. We're just working on a story video. We were actually on a We were actually on our way story on the DMV. We're actually on our way out. We just explained these two officers right here everything that's going on. We're trying to We're trying to bring awareness on freedom of the press. We have to We absolutely have As long as we're not being loud, we're not creating a disturbance, we're not impeding the business, and we're not just, you know, bothering anyone, we absolutely have the right to be here and work on a story and publish it. So, No, actually it's Trooper. Trooper, okay. State police. Sorry about that. Trooper. Sorry. Are you you're not state police, correct? He leaned down and videoed his name tag and he said, "Officer so-and-so." And he said, "No, actually it's Trooper." Come on, guys. I I know it's I know they like to be called called Trooper, but don't get pompous about it. I mean, you can you can be a little more respectful, but you can tell this guy's um patience is waning and he's about to um push it a little bit farther than he should. So, let's watch what happens. Okay, cool. So, we were actually on our way out. Am I being detained? Sir, what your name is? What's I'm I'm Enrique. I've already told him. Yes, sir. But Where's your ID? I have my ID, but I have if I'm not being But if I'm not being suspected of committing any crimes Need to see it. Am I being detained? You're not at this point. Okay, so if if I'm not So, if I'm not being detained, then I can walk away from you. And if I can walk away from you, then you don't have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. That's how you process it in your head, officer. I'm sorry, Trooper. Come on, guys. This is really this stuff needs to be taught in the academy. They need to know how to deal with these auditors and they need to not give them airtime. Because that's what they want. They want this back and forth because it makes you know, their channel views longer. So, that's that's why you just need to say, "Oh, you're videoing and you haven't done Okay, well, you guys have a nice day." And walk away. That's that's the only way to deal with these auditors is to walk away. Now, this guy pushes it a little bit farther than he should. And we're going to see what happens when he tells them to come on outside. Oh, yeah. Okay. Let's do something. Let's Let's Let's do something. Let's do something. How about we step outside? How How about we step Let's go outside. Let's step outside. Let's step outside and speak. Yeah, yeah, please, but don't touch me, sir. Don't touch me. Why Why are you touching Why are you Why are you touching me, though? You know, it's dis- disrespectful, trooper. How How would you feel if I put my hands on you, sir? Yeah, and that's a good question. You're not allowed to put your hand on him and guide him. He's Well, you're you're allowed to. I mean, I wouldn't say you're not allowed to cuz the cops can do anything they want until somebody tells them that they can't. That's the whole point. That's where judges come in. You know, judges hear things like this and they go, "No, officer, that was a little too far." And officers need to be trained on how to deal with these things. When you start saying, "Come outside. Come outside with me and we're going to That's escalating the confrontation. And when you escalate the confrontation to the point where you're putting your hand on somebody's like you're grabbing his elbow or you're putting your hand on his shoulder and you're guiding him outside then you've escalated that into now what is a physical touch confrontation. There's no reason to put your hands on somebody even to guide them outside unless you are trying to guide them outside because you're going to place them in custody or they're or they're being detained. If you don't have the right to detain somebody a detention is the absolute least the lowest point on the totem pole. In order to detain somebody for any reasonable amount of time, You just have to have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. And reasonable suspicion means reasonable, something we can all kind of agree on, and articulable, which means you can say it. If you can't say it, you don't have it. So, in sum, the reason for this video was just to kind of point out these auditor sites. I've actually in spite of the fact that I don't agree with all their tactics, I do send some of my clients to watch these video channels because they are educational at least to the extent of what to do and what not to do during a police encounter. Now, I don't agree with everything they do, and I wouldn't do everything that they do. I wouldn't push the envelope like they do. But certainly, there are things that you can glean from these videos that are educational. Things that you would like to have known before you had the police encounter. And I think that we need to be in every junior high and high school in America teaching young people how to encounter the police. Part of teaching them how to encounter the police means teaching them about this. If we can teach young people about the Constitution, which they're not doing in school unless you're in some kind of private school or you're home-schooled, if we can teach young people about the Constitution what it means and what powers it gives the people. Then we can teach young people not how to not how to antagonize the police or how to talk back to the police, but we can teach people how to deal with the police and how to know what the police are allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do and how to deal with the encounter. Now, when you deal with a police officer who's exceeding his boundaries, you don't fix that on the street. I say all the time uh if if a police officer ex- exceeds his boundaries of reasonableness, um then you deal with that in the courtroom. So, what you do is you get your phone out and uh yeah, I don't think he was causing a disturbance necessarily, but all the police and the customers were causing the disturbance. It turns out that everybody in there um was had an opinion and they were going to let these guys know about it. Hey Deborah, glad you're catching me live, too. It's been a while. I haven't been on here as much as I should have been, but I'm going to get better at that. You ain't seen nothing yet. But that's when you pick up your video camera and you say, "Officer, I'd like to video this encounter for my protection and for yours." Um and I appreciate you saying that. Catch the whole version on replay. Um I don't know if you heard, I guess uh Deborah, you tuned in, but you probably have heard before I'm running for judge in Nashville, so I know you're a Nashvillian and I appreciate your support as always. You guys will hear hear more about that in the future, uh but in the meantime, like this video, share this video, and comment on this video. And we'll be back next time.