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See, so I know the the viewership going to be down, man. It's all good, though. Listen, if you don't catch it live, um the lives will be taken down afterwards. and uh they will be put up on the Shy Gotam True Crime channel. Okay. All right. So, anyway, you know, we just moving some things around, fumbling some things around, you know, but um hopefully you guys had a great week. All right. We got a um we got a video that pretty much went viral. Like I've been seeing clips all over the place and this got like how many views this thing got? I forget how many. It got 21 million views. Like when I first seen it, it was at like 17 million views. And I'm like, yo, nah. What? This has to be an insane story. Okay, so anyway, we got a video from Dr. Insanity. The title of the video is rich mass killer realizes she's been caught eight years later. Eight years later, man, that's um that's insane. All right, so let's get into it. >> You doing okay this morning? >> Yep. >> Sorry to wake you up. Well, so my name is Tyler. This is Steve. How are you? >> This is 42-year-old Amy Valardi. And for the last 8 years, she's been living with a terrifying secret that these detectives are about to expose. >> I got to sign the case about the homicide that happened in Pendleton in 2015. So, we we'd like to talk to you. >> Oh my god. >> In 2015, Amy's parents and grandparents were found brutally murdered inside their family home. And with no witnesses and no physical evidence connecting anyone to the murders, the case slowly goes cold. >> Say hi, Amy. >> Years after the homicides, Amy and her husband Ross had moved on, spending their new found fortune on cars, a new house, and expensive exotic animals. But unbeknownst to everyone, the killers had been closer to home all along. >> Amy's done what she promised you was going to do. They're the ones that killed her. Deputies and stuff screwed up all the evidence. >> You're dead smack in the middle of this thing. >> We're not here because we think you did it or you might have did it. We know you did it. It's piling [music] up, Ross. We don't want to roll the dice on this. I'm telling you. We've been following this case closely for several years, working alongside police departments and legal experts to uncover every detail and bring you never-before-seen footage investigating South Carolina's most disturbing quadruple homicide. It's approximately 10:30 a.m. on a Monday morning, just after Halloween, when the Anderson County Sheriff's Office receives a frantic 911 call from what sounds like a House of Horrors. Peterson County 911 was location of emergency. >> Oh my god. I need some scream. >> Ma'am, I can't understand you. What's your address? >> 227 Refuge Road. >> Ma'am. Ma'am, TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON. >> Oh my god. >> Is somebody hurt? Ma'am, I can't. >> People in my mama's house in their bed. There's blood everywhere. >> Who are these people that are in the house? >> It's my mom and my grandma and my stepdad. On the line is 32-year-old Amy Valardi, reporting that her entire family has been murdered. Within minutes, deputies rush to the home where the scene awaiting them would be even more brutal than Amy had led them to believe. Okay. Okay. Wow. She offed her parents and grandparents. Two different generations. Two different generations. That's wild, man. That's wild. But I want to see what actually took them so long to finally catch up with her cuz 20 what? 2015 this happened. Wow. >> Once officers step inside, they discover three victims. Mike Scott, Barbara Scott, and Violet Taylor. Lying deceased on the living room floor. Several feet away inside a bedroom [music] lies the fourth and final victim, Kathy Scott. Each family member appears to have suffered multiple stab wounds and a single gunshot wound to the head. As crime scene investigators begin processing the home, they discover a trail of shoe prints, a Clorox bleach bottle sitting in the kitchen sink, and two cell phones discarded outside. The only significant clues left behind by whoever carried out this brutal attack back out. >> Yeah, but why do we see so many cases like this where it's your it's your child taking out the parents? We see, I'm telling you, doing these true crime things, we see this more often than not where parents are killing their they I mean, kids are killing their parents. Kids are killing their parents. Kids are killing their, you know, their their relatives and stuff like that. What have your parents done that was that bad to you to make you want to off the person that brought you into this world? You wouldn't even be existing if mommy and daddy didn't do the ooh whooo you who and bring you into this world. So because you going through your mood swings or whatever, you got your selfish reasons, you want to take out your parents, man, this is messed up. >> Side deputies speak with a 911 caller, Amy. She tells officers that she and her husband Ross live next door and became concerned after her mother Kathy failed to take her dog outside this morning. When Amy went to check on her, she says that's when she discovered the bodies of her parents and grandparents. After clearing the entire house and finding no murder weapon and very little physical evidence left behind, investigators grow increasingly concerned, they're dealing with a ruthless and calculated killer, and that these may not be his first victims. At this stage, the only people on the investigator's radar are Amy and Ross, seemingly grieving relatives of the victims. However, later that evening, as news of the Scott family murders spreads across Anderson County, Amy's ex-husband, Neil, contacts police with some interesting information. >> So, you were married to Amy previously. >> I was her first husband. I believe she's capable of this. I say that because while we were married, she tried to stab me. >> What brought on y'all separation? The fight or >> uh Actually, that was one of three fights. One she just tried to charge me, trip her and laid her down on the ground and tell her not to come back after me. And the other time was a knockown drag out where I was told she hit me and one of my friends with a ball bat. I don't remember that. Separation was on adultery charges. >> Did you get knocked out or something? >> I blacked out. >> Well, listen Neil, I appreciate you calling in and I'll keep your information handy. Amy's violent history places her under suspicion, but that soon becomes the least of detectives concerns as she and Ross begin behaving in ways no genuinely grieving couple ever should. Listen, well, my guy dodged that bullet. Okay, he got he got missing. You hear me? Oh, yeah. I got to divorce you. You're you're crazy. On Wednesday morning, acting on information from Amy's ex-husband, investigators quickly secure a search warrant for Amy's trailer and rush over. The moment they step inside, they're struck by a peculiar smell. One eerily similar to what they encountered at the murder scene. As the search continues, detectives uncover an unusual amount of cash. $68,000 bundled inside a bedroom safe along with 18 firearms, all of which are seized as potential evidence. Considering Amy and Ross' modest lifestyle, this discovery immediately raises questions. After clearing the trailer, investigators ask Amy and Ross to come to the station for an opportunity to clear their names. And interestingly, both agree, almost as if they've been expecting this very moment. Once Amy and Ross arrive at the station, they're immediately asked if they're willing to undergo a polygraph test, something rarely requested of witnesses. Ross agrees and is the first to take a seat. But before asking about the murders, the examiner would begin by trying to better understand the man sitting across from him. And Ross is about to reveal something from his past that makes him almost impossible to break. >> This is Mr. L. >> I'm polygraphing them. I'm not law enforcement >> in any way, form, fashion. I do a lot of tests for law enforcement, but I don't have a gun about it. Any medical problems you know about? >> Uh physical or um nothing physically wrong. Um >> you mental problem. >> I am rated for 30% for PTSD. >> Were you actually in combat or I know you had embassy duty sometime. >> Yeah, that that was my last three years. My first two and a half I was infantry unit. So you was in combat the first two and a half years you were there. >> Yeah. Like I only did one deployment. So it's not like I did like back to back and >> you did one deployment in combat. >> Yeah. But one deployment is enough on infantry. Infantry is them guys that's literally on the front lines. You know what I mean? Like you got bullets flying at you. >> Oh yeah. >> Yes sir. >> We're correct. Iraq. >> Now you you've been in Marines. You know what gunshot sounds like. Oh yeah. You know what on all you know what screaming and everything sounds like? >> Oh yeah. >> Uh you hear anything that was out of the ordinary? >> Not out of the ordinary. Amy sleeps with our television on and >> I I hate to think that that would be the reason why I wasn't able to go save someone. You >> think Amy had anything to do with this? >> No, I don't think she had anything to do with this. >> Although Ross steers detectives away from Amy, his own background has started to draw attention to himself. Ross spent 5 years in the Marine Corps. During that time, he received extensive hand-to-hand combat training with knives, along with specialized instruction on how to resist interrogation if ever captured by the enemy. Realizing this, the examiner would allow Ross to share his thoughts on who could be responsible. And his answer would be unexpected to say the least. >> How do you think I did this? >> I'm just I have no freaking clue. Um, >> you do it. >> Did I do it? No. >> What about your guy telling you? >> There's three possible scenarios that >> Okay. >> Um, >> one, Mike deals in a lot of gold. Um, he buys and sells gold. Um, he buys and sells guns and he buys and sells video games and stuff like that. And maybe, >> listen, nobody ain't killing them over no video games. So, you might as well just cut that out, okay? the gold and all of that stuff is all right, you know, but uh listen, nobody ain't killing you over the PlayStation. All right, so no, no, no. >> Maybe someone was disgruntled at a sale. Um or maybe someone [music] noticed that, you know, he dealt in a lot of this stuff and figured they'd cash in. You know, that's >> okay. >> You know, that's one scenario that could be a slight possibility. Uh the other one um I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday of this past week. Um okay, >> he had mentioned to me that he had seen um Amy's ex h >> Amy's ex-husband [snorts] kind of skullking around. Um and then the third thing that I've um kind of been thinking over the last um couple hour well not a couple hours but the last 24 is the last couple of weeks Mike has and it made kind of like a weird habit where he'll just kind of walk up to the end of the driveway and he'll just make you know kind of make a couple of circles and kind of look back and forth and then he'll go up and walk up the road. So I don't know if that's something that is real suspect. I don't know if that's something that's relevant, but at this point, you know, the detectives are telling me, "Hey, >> yeah, think of anything that might be out of the ordinary." >> Unsurprisingly, none of Ross' theories involve himself or Amy. But now it's time for the polygraph. And detectives are about to find out whether years of marine training are enough to help Ross beat it. >> In any marine train, y'all been talking about if you got captured or anything, about polygraph or anything? If you get caught, captured or whatever, you give them your name, your rank, social security number, blah blah blah. Don't give any other information, so on and so forth. >> Do you live in South Carolina? >> Yes. >> Regarding the physically harming of those people, did you intend to answer truthfully each question? >> Yes, sir. >> Before last year, did you ever intentionally harm anyone? >> No, sir. >> Did you physically harm anyone in that house? >> No, sir. >> Is there something else you afraid I'll ask you a question about? >> No, sir. So, you kept calling it a test. Did I pass my test? >> Man, Polygraphs, you could beat Polygraphs. You know that. Ah, I'm curious to see if he beats it or not, though. >> I just [music] joke. I said, keep calling it a test. You know, did I pass my test? >> The examiner gives nothing away, leaving Ross in the dark about whether he passed or failed his polygraph. Meanwhile, Amy is brought into another room for her own test. Like Ross, she's about to be asked who she believes is responsible for her family's murders, and her answer would shift suspicion to someone already familiar to investigators. >> This has probably gone through your head a million times since then. Tell me tell me what your theory is. >> A lot of different scenarios have went through my head. >> Mhm. my uh my ex-husband who did not have a good relationship with my parents. >> Can you think of a motive why he would be involved in something like that? >> My mom and stepdad were pushing him for child support or pushing him to take care of his son and >> Okay. >> He was not doing that. >> Okay. Tell me why you would not be involved in something like this. >> I love my family. I love them. There's no way that I could and especially the scene that was in there. I could never do that kind of thing. >> Okay. >> Although Amy attempts to steer detectives towards her ex-husband Daniel, they have no evidence linking him to the murders and are not considering him a suspect. But now it's time for the test. [music] Unlike Ross, she's never been trained to withstand the pressure of a highstakes interrogation. And as far as she knows, both her future and Ross's depend [music] entirely on her results. >> Man, her breathing going to stop and everything. She going to fail this mug right here. But even though even if you fail a polygraph, that's not enough to, you know, that's not enough to convict you cuz they could be beat. So if they could be beat, then they could be, you know, it could go both ways. >> Okay, please sit still. The test is about to begin. Are the lights on in this room? >> Yes. >> Regarding whether you were involved in the deaths of any of those people in that double wide, are you going to tell me the truth today? >> Yes. >> Were you present when any of those people in that double wide were shot? >> No. >> Did you cause any of those injuries to any of those people in that double wide? >> No. Do you know the name of the person who caused any of those injuries to any of those people in that double wire? >> No. >> You may not be entirely satisfied with the way things are going. >> No. >> Right now. >> No, I don't. >> Well, I'm just going to tell you right up front, you fail the crap out of this polygraph. >> Okay. There's no doubt in my mind that you are involved in some way, shape, or form in this. Okay. >> Great. And it wasn't even close. It wasn't even close. I mean, you failed the cowboy dog [ __ ] out of this test. You could not have done any worse. Their theory is that you're dead smack in the middle of this thing and Ross is dead smack in the middle of it. >> But didn't Ross pass this? >> No. >> Hell no. No, he didn't pass it. >> If you go smoke, you can come back and talk to us. Um, I would like to go talk to my lawyer in her office next. >> Thank you for your time. >> Well, let me ask you this. My goal every time I do this is to be fair. Do you think I was fair to you today? Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. >> In reality, from this, >> you know, I like that question. I like that question because she says, you know, I want to go talk to my lawyer and then he says, "Wait, well, well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I have one more question for you. Was I fair to you today?" I like that question. I ain't going to lie, it was just something about it. It was It was very dramatic, but it was I liked it. I liked it. moment on, Amy would hold a grudge against the examiner, one that would stay with her for years. Despite failing the polygraph, the results alone aren't enough to prove guilt. Without a confession or physical evidence, detectives have no choice but to let the couple go, and before long, the investigation comes to a halt. >> See, that's what I said. I mean, even with the polygraph, they could go either way. That's not enough. As weeks turn into months, leads begin to dry up and the case eventually goes cold. For a time, Amy continues giving public interviews, pleading for the killer to be found. But behind closed doors, life goes on for Amy and Ross, and it appears they've put the tragedy behind them. After inheriting the family's home, the couple begins renovating the very place where the murders took place. Once the work is complete, they move in and settle into a comfortable new life, benefiting from the money left behind by the victims. During this time, Ross would spend nearly $40,000 on a Dodge Ram, a Mustang, two Harley-Davidson motorcycles, and a Yamaha personal watercraft. Eventually, [music] the couple would sell the home and move to West Columbia, South Carolina. All the while, they would keep the truth hidden, not only from investigators, but also from their own children, who were still too young to understand where all this newfound fortune had come from. >> Hey, I'm here. I'll show you some. >> Yep. See you. Open up. >> Yeah, look. It's now 2023 and in an unexpected twist, the television series Cold Justice approaches the Anderson County Sheriff's Office with the hope of finally solving the case. And 8 years later, the investigation is officially reopened. Detective Tyler Duncan is assigned alongside veteran investigator Steve Spingola. and together they're tasked with re-examining every piece of evidence collected back in 2015. And as he scrolls through years of Facebook posts, he comes across something unexpected, a video the couple would soon regret not deleting. Without this recording, detectives might have hit yet another frustrating dead end, especially since Amy's parents had no CCTV cameras surrounding their home. And it shows just how important reliable security can be because when something happens, every second matters. That's why this video like Simply Safe. With that said, let's return to the video that's about to spell serious trouble for Amy and Ros. >> You guys keep calling the police and you guys keep making >> I did not call no police. I don't know. >> I don't know what Kathy does. That's all right. is making problems for Amy and I. Not only for us personally and me, not a me. >> You don't know the English, stupid. >> Wow. Danny, [laughter] hold on. Let me go get my grandmother, who's actually an English teacher, and we'll find out who's correct on this. >> Okay. >> Why don't you have Grandma Lester come out here real quick? >> I don't think your grandma wants to deal with this trash. >> No. This is ridiculous at this point. Can you >> Dad, you don't know doodoo for beggars? Yeah, that's right, Jamie. I'm the litter. >> I'll show you some. >> Yep. See you. Hope you die. >> This footage completely contradicts the story Amy and >> Whoa. Hope you die. >> Oh man, who even got time to be arguing with granny's and stuff? Like, come on, man. It's just too many. Come on, man. You just let let the older people get whatever they got to get off off their chest and that's it, man. Let it let it roll off your tongue, man. It's just Come on, man. She's like, [clears throat] uh, Amy and me or whatever. Like, all right, just just let her have it. All right. All right. No problem. You got arguing over English language like whatever. You know, Georgia, what's going on? >> Yeah, that's right, Jamie. I'm going to let her have it. >> I'll show you some. >> Yep. See you. Hope >> I can't love. This footage completely contradicts the story Amy and Ross had been telling police for years. Becoming the first major lead detective Duncan believes could finally crack the case. And so, after 8 years with virtually no progress, Detective Duncan prepares to pay Amy and Ross a visit. A couple who have spent nearly a decade believing they got away with murder. But what Detective Duncan is about to do is not without risks. Knowing the couple had already lawyered up in the past, detectives know they have only one chance to get this right or risk the case going cold for good. On December 11th at 8:00 a.m., Detective Duncan and Spangola head to Amy and Ross' new home in West Columbia, South Carolina, more than 100 miles from where the murders took place. Once they arrive, the people inside the house have no idea their lives are about to be turned upside down forever. You ready? >> Let's go. >> There we go. There we go. >> Hey, Ross. >> I'm Tyler Duncan. I'm with Anderson County Sheriff's Office. This is Steve. >> How you doing? How's it going? >> Um, so we're I got assigned the case about the homicide that happened in Pendleton in 2015. >> Okay. And uh so I'm trying to go around basically and start from the beginning and since Amy is Amy here. >> She is. >> So since she's the one that called 911, I think you were there also. Um >> yeah. Well, I mean I showed up just after you called yesterday. >> Okay. Yeah. >> So we we'd like to talk to you. Um we're kind of starting from the beginning of the case and going back through. >> Yeah. I mean my house is a mess right now. >> Well, that's we can actually just get >> we can go sit in the car here and uh talk reports in there. >> All right. Do you want to talk to both at the same time? We'll talk to you separately and we'll talk if you want to come on out. We'll talk to you and then we can talk to her. Okay, >> man. Yo, if you've if it's been eight years and you've been in the clear, I'm not talking to nobody without no lawyer. Like, all I got to say is lawyer. That's it. I don't got nothing to say. Sorry you came all this way, but I got nothing to say. Lawyer, that's it. That's it. Cuz if they open the case back up 8 years later, that means something came up and your ass is in deep waters. Okay, deep waters. After Ross steps out of the house and walks towards the detective's vehicle, all three men know this could very well be their final standoff. The detectives have the element of surprise and the couple's unsettling digital footprint. While Ross relies on a rockolid story backed by years of marine training, the stakes have never been higher as the couple's future now rests entirely in Ross' hands. >> Did we wake you up? Oh, I'm sorry. >> So, if he just >> So, I think I So, I think they think they probably think that the girl did it. He didn't do it. Maybe the girl did it and they might try to get him to flip. >> Want to start from kind of the beginning of what you remember and and we'll go from there. >> All right. Um, well, this will be fun cuz that was quite a while ago. Um, I went out to run my errands. I didn't really notice anything um out of the ordinary that I could see or uh you know that morning when Amy got up, she had noticed that uh her mom's dogs had not been taken out yet, which was weird because her mom takes her dogs out every morning. So her so she went out there to see why her mom's dogs hadn't been taken out. um she let her mom's dogs out into the dog run and she went up to the uh house to, you know, knock on the door, see if her mom maybe wasn't feeling well, see if something was going on that she didn't, you know, didn't tell anybody about. So, she opened it up, walks in, and that's when she apparently found the scene that she found. Um, she went holding back out of the house. Uh, I believe that's when she made the call. I think she called 911 before she called me if I remember correctly. >> If you remember the story correctly, Georgia says, "Miranda is a wonderful thing when it's understood. One wrong statement can open the case back up." Well, in this case, it wasn't really a statement. It was a uh it was a TV show. TV show came to town and was like, "Hey, we we want to open this case back. Hey, let's go through some cases." You know, that damn if that TV show wasn't going on. But anyways, um why is he telling the story of what his wife may have saw? Tell us what you did that day. Don't speak for your wife. She could tell her own version of the story. What you're tell Oh, she when she got up, she went to do this and to go. She noticed that the dogs weren't outside. You don't know any you didn't see any of that. Why? Because you said that you was already out running your errands. So, I don't want to hear nothing. That's he say she say. No, that hearsay stuff. You You didn't see that. This is just stuff that you done heard. Nah, nah. Just talk about the errands that you ran, man, cuz I doubt you probably even ran any errands. Okay. >> From the start, [music] detectives immediately notice a few things. Ross struggles to maintain eye contact, and the story he's telling is one they've already partially verified. On the day of the murders, surveillance footage captured Ross at a nearby Quick Trip, seemingly supporting his account. But what appeared to clear Ross of suspicion 8 years earlier would eventually become one of the strongest pieces of evidence against him. For now, Ross' story matches his original account. But as he continues talking, small changes would begin to emerge, giving detectives an unexpected lead. >> Can you describe, I guess, your kind of your relationship with with Mike and Kathy? Yeah. So, um, at first when, uh, uh, when Amy and I first started dating, um, uh, my relationship with Mike was really great, actually. Kathy is one of those people that if you don't understand her, she's hard to swallow, but I mean, overall, I mean, she was a really good person, I think. Um, it's just like just some of her mannerisms were a little bit, we'll say, fun. There was a couple things that kind of were red flags, but I don't know if they have anything to do with this or not. Um, one of them was at really weird times and weird hours of the day and night, I would see Mike walking around the perimeter of the property talking to himself. In something like this, what do where does your investigation normally what do you guys normally follow in cases? TV shows that I watch always say follow the money, [music] right? That that's one of the biggest things. Follow the money and you find out where the real motives are. Interestingly, this follow the money approach will prove to be the key to solving the case, but not in the way Ross thinks. After a few more minutes, Ross's interview comes to an end, and he's asked to let Amy know it's her turn. As detectives wait for her, they know the last time Amy spoke to law enforcement, she sat silently as they angrily confronted her over failing a polygraph test. But now Amy's attitude would be very different. And detectives are about to see how 8 years of carrying a terrifying secret had changed her. >> He's the victim. >> Oh, I got that very quickly. >> Yep. Very quickly. >> And he goes on and on and on. >> Benefit from this. What an excellent. >> But follow the money. >> Follow the money. >> You could tell that he's >> Yeah, I saw him. >> Yeah. >> And crying, you know, >> and every time he's talking, he would look and then when he would go to answer and and again, I don't but but he can't look at you in the in the face. His timeline is extremely off. >> You just hop in the passenger seat. >> Okay. Well, we can we can stand outside. You doing okay this morning? Yeah. >> Sorry to wake you up. >> Well, so my name's Tyler. This is Steve. How are you? >> But when we start with a case, you know, considered a cold case, we want to start from the beginning. That's how I operate. I hope you have no bad feelings with me. Um I'm sorry that the maybe the county or somebody has has irritated you. I can only imagine >> irritation. You know, you get pretty irritated about lies. I understand >> and stuff going around everything else and how that affects your children. certainly and >> but we we're trying to do right by your mother, your grand your grandmother and then obviously Mr. Scott and and his mom. So >> I don't know if y'all are redoing it and y'all going to do it justice and that would be wonderful. >> Despite Amy claiming she's okay with the case being reopened, her defensive demeanor tells detectives otherwise. After reviewing the original case file, Detective Duncan knows that confronting Amy directly has never worked. So, learning from their previous experience, he decides to take an opposite approach to get to the bottom of what Amy truly feels about the victims. >> Man, yo, she better stick to what she said before eight years prior. Lawyer. Lawyer. She better stick to that. If she don't if she if she do anything else besides lawyer, it's over. >> Do you remember what can you help us with? Where should we look? >> I mean I mean obviously you got to know finding dead people doesn't really leave you in the right state of mind. Could do things to you. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Um but and then everything that ensued. I mean honestly I can't even tell you. I can barely remember the funerals. I don't really remember much about being inside the house anymore. I I think I've blocked that out. That's just and that's just how it's going to have to be at this point because I've got children. I've got to be here for them and I can't be in the L. Then we had >> Now that's [ __ ] Come on. You better off just saying I I don't want to talk. I just want to speak to my lawyer. Now all of a sudden you don't remember nothing. You blacked out. Come. another girl that was working for us. She was around at the time here and there. Roxy. >> So her name was Roxy. >> Yeah. Roxy boy. >> How about leading? So he Ross was telling us a little bit about like the relationship between like I guess y'all and the family. Um and I guess it was good and then something happened. >> Uh yeah, I remember what happened. [laughter] Um I mean a lot of people should remember what happened. We got into it around Fourth of July or something with Mike. It didn't have much to do with my mom and my grandmother. Of course, my father died when I was 18, so I didn't need another father cuz I was 23 and had my own kid. And there had always been issues there for years, but way before this. So, he had issues with a couple of my ex-husbands. He had issues with a couple of my friends. >> Now, who who this is? Mike. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um, I really hate to tell y'all this. That probably sounds horrible coming from me, but he wasn't a nice person. [laughter] >> Even a fish wouldn't get Georgia says even a fish wouldn't get in trouble if kept its mouth shut. [laughter] >> For the first time in 8 years, Amy admits she never had a good relationship with her stepfather. But detectives would later learn her resentment towards him went far deeper. She also points Duncan and Spingola towards her friend and former employee Roxy, someone detectives now need to interview as soon as possible. Before wrapping up, Detective Spingola has one more question for Amy, one they would return to again and again throughout the investigation. >> How were things going financially at that time? Okay. >> Yeah, it was fine. >> No problems. >> Nothing abnormal. I mean, >> and you tried to cooperate. I know you answered questions before. >> Yeah. You took a polygraph. >> Yeah. >> How'd that go? >> Uh they were like they they wouldn't even tell me. They acted like I did something horrible on it, you know. And it's not that I haven't wanted. >> That's a lie. They told you you failed. Now they see this is why you don't talk because now all they're going to do is compare what you said the first time to now what you said now. And there's probably gonna be a whole bunch of inconsistencies >> to cooperate. It's just you get to a certain point and you see where things are going and you're like, you know what, this is >> Thank you for talking to us. >> She can't remember anything because she doesn't remember her lies. Am I wrong? Despite Amy's best attempts, detectives know her account is full of lies, even more so than Ross's. Still, at this stage, they have nothing concrete tying either Amy or Ross to the murders, and the couple knows it. Once detectives return to the station, both sides realize they're at a pivotal point in the investigation as the next 24 hours could determine whether Amy and Ross walk free or spend the rest of their lives behind bars. The following morning, Detective Scotty Hill and prosecutor Kelly Seagler follow up on the previous day's leads and decide to pay a visit to Amy's former coworker, Roxy. The detective's hunch is that Amy believes this interview will strengthen her alibi. But by introducing a new potential witness, whatever Roxy is about to say now has the power to shift the investigation in either the detectives or the couple's favor. >> Hey Rocky, how are you doing? >> Good. How are you >> doing? Fine. >> Good morning. Basically, what we we've decided to do is start this [music] case from the beginning and work it like it's never been worked before. >> Okay. >> Do everything we can. So, obviously you were kind of a big deal in the early early days of the case. You worked for Ross Navy, right? >> How was she to work for? >> Um, cool. Laid back. Um, >> we jumped around a lot. Never took anyone too serious. Um, I think I seen um Kathy and what was his name? >> Mike. >> Mike. >> Um, at the the shop, the grooming shop [music] twice. And the first time everything was great. And then the second time they came, uh, it wasn't good. Um, it was kind of I was in the back grooming, so I didn't hear everything that was going on, but just watching the body language and hearing the what they were saying at the time. [music] It wasn't it was something to do with money. >> Okay. >> Um because afterwards Stacy Stacy uh Amy had talked about um how she was going to keep her kids away from um Kathy and Mike. And that's when they just went kapahoots from there. They never [music] >> got along after that. And then throughout working there, she >> classic, classic, classic, classic. We see that a lot. You know, weaponize the kids against people that they Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Georgia with five gifted memberships. I appreciate that. Gifted five new members. Appreciate that, Georgia. You always looking out. Um yeah, we always see we we see that a lot, you know, uh when people don't get their way, they weaponize the kids against, you know, uh other people. It could be a dad or mom or grand uh grandparents and all that type of stuff, man. Sad. >> Always tell me about how she was treated growing up and all of that. So, >> what kind of stuff would she say about how she was treated? Um, she told me that she was always a daddy's girl and when um her dad passed away, I think she said her dad had a he was working on a car and it crushed him and [music] he placed in the hospital. >> Um, and her mom decided to pull the plug on him and she said she was only 13 and so she didn't really have a say so but she always uh hated her mom for that. What Roxy has just revealed could provide detectives with one of the strongest motives behind the murders. As Amy's hatred towards her mother over the decision to remove her father from life support had only deepened over the years. And as detectives wrap up the interview and relay their findings to Duncan and Spingola, Amy and Ross are completely unaware that their luxurious life is about to come crashing down. While Amy and Ross continue enjoying their freedom, Duncan and Spinola drive over to two people who knew the victims better than almost anyone else. Their closest friends, Stan and Mary, to see if their stories match, detectives decide to interview them separately. And [music] while they expect to hear more unsubstantiated claims, they're about to uncover much more than that. Do will you just hop in a passenger seat so we can sit down and and talk about what happened back in 2015 real quick? >> We're investigating the case again. Um going through going through everything. >> Um and that's kind of why you know we kind of talk in private a little bit and just see >> I know at some point in time I think you had called and talked with some detectives back back then and stuff. So >> I did because I felt like I I need to tell them what I knew about what Barbara had told me. I kind I kind of come on the case earlier this year. Uh started reviewing it and stuff. Uh >> I hope you catch it, man. I tell you what, we were with him. Uh Kathy was here that uh Friday before we don't know exactly when she died, either Friday night or Saturday, whatever. But uh she and Kelly and uh and we told the first people uh we were really good friends. She cleaned our house, but Mike and I were good friends. And uh uh we sent food home for them. our food was in their refrigerator when they died. >> I'd say at least 3 months before that happened, she was just a nervous wreck over what was going on up there in that house. And then that last time I went, that was just a few days before that happened. Uh Barbara was just I mean she was beside herself crying and and going on about how uh Amy something bad was going to happen because uh um Amy just seemed like she just hated their guts. >> I think the week that he died or the weekend that he died, I think he told his boss that he knew was going to die. >> Do you know why he would say that? >> He was going to get killed. >> He was that afraid? >> Yeah, he just knew. I think they might have I don't remember all of that stuff, but uh you know, uh >> to the detective's surprise, neither Stan nor Mary believe these murders came out of nowhere. Their accounts suggest this may have been a planned attack, potentially explaining why so little evidence was left behind. But what stood out to Stan and Mary even more was the couple's behavior in the days after the murders, convincing them that one of the Valardes is indeed the killer. >> Did you go to the funeral, man? Anything unusual at the funeral? >> Weird. >> Weird. Why? >> For them just to come in like they were all upset and and concerned about what had happened. That just didn't seem normal to me. I don't know. >> Do you remember anything anything unusual happened at the funeral? Anything that stuck out in your mind? Do I have to say that? >> Yeah. >> I don't want to say it. >> You know, we we're trying to put this together. >> She was dressed like a >> red, >> huh? >> Red dress. >> I don't remember the color dress, but short dress, boots, and all that stuff. Uh, Kelly will be able to tell you more than I can on that. >> If she wasn't speaking to them or having anything to do with them, I don't know why she decided she'd come in and check on them. What did you think happened? >> Minute I heard it, I I I thought Amy's done what she promised you was going to do. I never even considered it being anybody else >> when you heard they were they were murdered. What was your first thought? >> They killed her. >> What makes you say that? >> They did. They're the ones who killed her. Uh and y'all know that, too. So, several people have told me, you know, just don't have the proof. And what I was told, and I don't know, maybe your sheriff told me that, but uh they went in over there, the uh uh deputies and stuff thought it was a a murder and screwed up all the evidence. >> After speaking with Stan and Mary, detectives Duncan and Spangola know they're closing in on a breakthrough. They just hope it comes fast enough before the couple disappears. Over the following weeks, Duncan >> Yeah, because think about this. I mean, if they did this and all that time has passed and they've been cleared, what if they just moved to another country, you know, like what if they really just got out of dodge, you know, got some, I don't know, remote jobs or something or whatever, you know, and just moved and left. Damn, man. and Spola conduct dozens more interviews with family members and friends, re-examining every piece of evidence to see whether anything had been overlooked over the years. And that's when they come across something peculiar. Amy had insisted from the beginning the $60,000 recovered from her home was her savings. But as investigator Duncan digs deeper, he discovers Amy and Ross' dog grooming business had been earning far less than they originally claimed. That's when Spingola uncovers something critical. While reviewing the victim's phone records, he finds that just days before his death, Mike had photographed stacks of cash to prove to a seller that he had enough money for an upcoming purchase. But upon closer inspection, the serial numbers in this photograph exactly match the cash seized from Amy and Ross' home. Then comes their biggest breakthrough [music] yet. Duncan and Spinola revisit the CCTV footage from the morning of November 1st and identify the shoes Ross was wearing, red AS6 Speed Star sneakers. When they compare them to the bloody footprint left at the scene, the match is undeniable. Nearly a decade later, Detective Duncan finally has the concrete physical evidence he's been searching for. On the morning of December 20th, detectives return to the couple's home for what they believe will be their final visit. Once they arrive, they spot Ross' brand new Ford Mustang, confirming the couple hadn't disappeared. While Amy refuses to speak with him this time, Ross agrees to another interview. After 8 years without an arrest, Ross is convinced any evidence against him simply doesn't exist, but he's about to get a reality check and his final chance to explain away the damning evidence stacked against him. He's cooked barbecue chicken, man. Deep fried. [clears throat] >> Hey, so we just want to ask you a couple more things and we're going to get out of here. Okay. >> So, there was something that had come up um while we was looking through the file. Do you remember owning a a like a red pair of shoes? >> Red pair of shoes. >> A basic uh Speed Star shoes. Don't realize here. >> So, there was a video on your phone of you wearing these AS6 speech shoes. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I remember those shoes. >> What What happened to the shoes? Cuz I don't think they ever found They never found the shoes. >> That's a good question cuz I have no idea. I possibly thrown away. The reason that I ask is we found this is from crime scene photos and these are confirmed to be AS6 speed store shoes. >> Okay. >> Um inside and they have blood droplets on them. And interestingly enough here at the Quick Trip wearing those shoes the night of the murders. >> I have no idea how those shoes would have had any kind of blood on them. I mean, obviously I was wearing them at a quick trip on the 31st. >> And they never found the clothes either that you were wearing. >> I mean, I I can understand where that would look like to be a problem, but again, I don't know where the shoes are at the moment, and I don't remember what ever happened to those particular shoes. If something were to have happened that I had done, would be stupid for me to wear them into the house and then wear them after that. >> Well, that's what I'm saying. They were never found. So, it's almost like you got rid of them and y'all did benefit from the murders, okay? Because you got a lot of money. We've been through your financials, okay? >> We did not get a lot of money from this. >> Y'all were struggling all up until the murders. The money found in your safe, there's money photos from Mike's computer that match the same serial numbers as the money that was found in the safe. So, it's [snorts] not savings. That's money that was found inside of Mike and Kathy's house that Mike was saving and y'all took it after. Your ass is crash. Imagine, you know, his heart has to be beaten out of his chest. You're done. Your life is over. Your life is over. Military guy, you know, so he could he he know a thing or two, you know. He try to cover his basics, you know. He tried to cover his tracks a little bit, but those shoes, man. Them shoes got you. Them shoes got you. >> You killed him. Okay. And I'm telling you right now, we're going to prove it. >> Or you can roll a dice. And when that jury comes back, I'm telling you, like you said, it's not going to be pretty. We're not here because we think you did it or you might have did it. We know you did it. Okay? We're just here as a courtesy. It's piling up, Ross. So, you're telling me that and if you guys said you went through my financials, >> right? >> You saw where I had made the money >> and we saw where you spent it. >> No, you didn't. >> Yes, we did. >> The car cuz your car was even reborn, buddy. >> I'm tell I'm not trying to scare you here, but >> that's actually absolutely what you're trying to do. >> Well, I'm not. You said it the best. Follow the money. We did that. It led right into your SINGLE WIDE. JUST >> OH, THIS DETECTIVE IS GOOD, MAN. He good. He using his own words against him. Follow the money. You know, he's sitting in that cell thinking about that. That phrase right there, he thinks about that at least once a day. I'm telling you. >> Using Ross's own words against him, Detective Duncan and Spangola followed the money and ironically, it led detectives straight back to him. For the first time, Ross begins to realize he and Amy may not be as untouchable as they once believed. But even then, he's convinced detectives still don't have enough to secure a conviction, and he's about to show them just how confident he really is. >> Let's just play this out in a hypothetical. Right. >> Right. >> Let's say a deal happens, >> right? >> What kind of deal would that be? >> I don't know, Ross. Here's Okay, but here's the deal. would that's a bad analogy. Here's the thing, sir. Without a deal, >> there's no hope. Do you believe that? I want you to go and, you know, think about this. >> I I understand that, but my my point being is you guys just brought up my kids, my wife, >> my family. >> Right. >> Mine is going to be better than Amy's cuz I came to the trough first. Right. >> Right. >> So, prison time no matter what. >> Amy prison time no matter what. So now you're talking about both of us are going to prison. Um my my three kids in here, they grow up without a father and a mother. Granted, my mother would be more than willing to take them. I understand that. We're not the ones who put you on this predicament. Okay. Y'all made a decision for whatever reason, okay, to do what y'all do. >> You say we made a decision wall. I understand it. We make decisions at stress. Now you have now, you know, eight years, whatever. Now you're >> turn on your wife. Get the ratting, man. Get yo, get the cheese out for this guy. He's ready to fold, man. You're done. You're done. So now what you have to think about, let I'mma Now, now I'mma tell you the real. This is really what you have to think about. He's sitting here thinking, "Okay, me and my wife, we're going to jail. Whatever." Right? We both know we we know we have something to do with it, right? This what he's thinking. We going to jail. Our kids is going to grow up without a mother or without a father. If I strike a deal, at least I could flip and maybe come home at some point or not go to jail. This is what he's thinking. But now you're still going to go to jail for a nice amount of time, but instead of getting life, you might get 20 years flat, right? You might get a date where you coming home. But look, but now you're going to have to go into prison being a rat. You ain't coming home, MAN. YOU'RE NOT COMING HOME. YOU'RE NOT COMING HOME. It's not like you're somebody that's going to get some extra uh little extra protection with some status or something like that. Like as if you were uh a ex cop, a exco, exjudge or something like that. You know, those are not getting they're not getting put in regular population. You know, a rapper or you know, some sort of celebrity. They're not getting put in regular population. You're getting put in regular population and you're a rat. You're man, listen, they going to get you together in there, man. So, yeah, you're thinking about coming home and everything. Oh, me and my wife, we both got to go, whatever. But if you flip on your wife and say she put me up to it, just know you're going to have a tough time in there still regardless. You know, I don't know how the women's prisons is. Those are a little different. But for the guys, man, yo, [laughter] >> going to have to deal with the consequences. For almost 10 years now, no one has found anything enough to come down here and bother me or my wife or my family. For 8 years, nothing's been enough to come down here. But now, all of a sudden, 8 years later, there's enough evidence to come bother me. Why or how? >> And we found the missing pieces. >> Okay. >> Okay. And I just showed you >> why why is it why is it 8 years later that bits and pieces had just finally >> quote unquote fallen into place? >> I can't answer. >> No statute of limitation on murder or nothing, man. >> Answer that because I wasn't I wasn't the ones that was investigating this case before I got it. >> So tell me where they fell for sure. >> I don't know. I can't plead guilty to something that >> Ross, don't go there. Don't go there anymore, please. I have a lot of respect for you. >> Don't go there anymore. >> All right. I won't say >> I did my job and you did yours. You understand it? >> Yep. >> That's it. That's the bottom line. No more bull here. >> All right. Then I won't then if if if that is where we are, >> then at this juncture it is time for me to hop out of the truck and I >> Yeah. Yeah. I I respect that detective too. He like don't go don't go there. Don't go there. You did your job and I did mine. I I respect that. 8 years later, the bits and pieces had just finally quote unquote fallen into place. >> I can't answer that because I wasn't I wasn't the ones that was investigating this case before I got it. >> So tell me where they fell for sure. >> I don't know. I can't plead guilty to something that >> Ross, don't go there. Don't go there anymore, please. I have a lot of respect for you. >> Don't go there anymore. >> All right. I won't. >> I did my job and you did yours. You understand that? >> Yep. >> That's it. That's the bottom line. No more bull here. All right, then I won't. And then if if if that is where we are, then at this juncture, it is time for me to hop out of the truck and I probably will be contacting an attorney. >> Well, you're free to go. >> Okay. >> Yep. You guys have a nice drive back to Anderson. >> Despite Ross still refusing to admit to the horrific crime he and Amy committed, Duncan and Spinola no longer need his confession. The evidence speaks for itself. Later that day, both Amy and Ross are arrested and transported to the Anderson County Detention Center, where they are charged with four counts of murder based on 8 years of findings. This is what investigators believe happened on the night of October 31st, 2015. Around 11 p.m. that night, Amy and Ross walked the short distance from their trailer to the Scott family home. Because they were family, detectives believe they were able to enter the house without forcing their way inside. Investigators believe Mike Scott was attacked first before he had a chance to defend himself. Kathy Scott, Barbara Scott, and Violet Taylor all suffered slash wounds, which investigators concluded were the fatal injuries. After they had already died, each victim was then shot in the head. Detectives believe Amy and Ross then took the cash Mike kept inside the home before leaving the scene. 2 days after the murder, Amy returned to the house [music] and placed the 911 call, reporting she had discovered the bodies. In February 2026, Amy is found guilty on all four counts of murder and sentenced to four life sentences. As of August 2026, Ross remains behind bars awaiting trial. [music] If convicted, he too could receive four life sentences, one for each victim. >> Wow. Wow. Oh wow. Wow. >> Andrew Wymer the >> Oops. That is nuts. That is insane. Eight years later. Eight years later, they finally got them together. Wow. Unbelievable. Unfreaking believable. It's a good story. I can see why it got 20 20 something million views or some something crazy like that, man. 20 something million views is insane. 21 million views, man. Damn. I pray to get a video with like five I pray that I can get a video with 500,000, you know? Damn. Out of all my videos, I only have one video with a 100,000 views. Man, it make me start thinking like, damn, what am I doing wrong, man? Golly, I'm doing so wrong. But anyway, uh Jordan says, "It's Amy and me." Yeah. You see how that turns on him? Wow, that was Yeah, that was crazy, man. That was crazy. I ain't going to lie. That's a good That's a good story. That's a good story. and they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in in prison. And um yeah, you know, it seemed like maybe he didn't. Um yeah, those detectives did a good job. And just just think it was a cold case. They were done and over with, but that TV show came to town and approached them to to reopen everything and send their own investigations in. That's wild, isn't it? Oh my goodness. Jonathan says, "Uh, it's gonna happen, Shai. This is my favorite channel." Ah, I'm I'm glad this is your favorite channel, you know. Um, eight years later. Uh, that was absolutely crazy. Yeah, man. No statute of limitations on murder, man. They could come grab you 20 years, 30 years later. Like, yeah. But finally got justice for those people. And um I wonder how much money did they really have because they still had some of that money left, right? So they were having money troubles and they had around 60,000 left. But how much did they grab from the home like eight years ago? You know what I mean? Like what was it a a couple of hundred thousand? Cuz he said that they was spending money on boats and and trucks and spend 40,000 on a truck and this and that. Like listen, that that pet grooming business wasn't bringing in no coins. Was not bringing in no coins. He gained a bit of weight in past eight years. Yo, right. They look like completely different people from that that video that that picture that they keep showing when they first got together. They were both slim. She was had I think a red dress on or something. And even like they and now she's she's she chain smoking cigarettes and just it just went downhill. He look he blew up big as a house. They look completely different, man. Completely different. You know, that must be that relationship weight, isn't it? Huh? That's what they say, right? [laughter] But anyway, that's it for the live. Um I hope you guys have a good weekend. Um, I don't know when I'll be back live, you know. I don't know. Um, you know, whatever. We'll feel it out. Um, but it will be on a Friday. 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