Thanks for calling in. >> Yeah, you reacted to one of my videos a couple weeks ago. I was the girl that was filming in Polk County who was attacked by sheriff's deputies. And um >> You're in Polk County. That's Grady Judd, right? >> Yeah, my friend was the driver who was driving and then I was the um person filming and my channel name is Defund Oligarchy. Um so I just wanted to say uh first I appreciated you reacting. I saw that Shield of Shame had reacted and um sent it to you. Like my um my dad's a really big fan. He loves your videos. We were doing a homeless ministry and >> Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. Now I remember. Yes. Okay. >> And we were leaving. >> Yes. Okay, now I remember. >> My camera got shut off. >> Yes, I'm with you. Okay. Talk to me about that. What happened after the camera was shut off? That's what I want I I want to I'm so glad you called in. >> the tip of the iceberg. >> Okay, tell me what happened. And I'm while you're talking, I'm going to try to find that video to refresh people's memory. >> Oh, yeah. Um Okay, so I guess this is a refresher people. I I I wasn't the driver. I was the passenger and um they asked me to get out of the car. So I opened the door. I I opened my window to talk to them. I asked them I said I'm not resisting, but I just want to know why. And they said we can't we we don't have to tell you. Just get out of the car. So I got out and I had the camera up in one hand and my other hand out, you know, hands hands out. And one of the deputies, the one that had been knocking on the window on my side, >> Yeah. >> grabbed grabbed the camera and it was like my camera phone. I'm like still holding it. Um he turned it off and like flipped me over. And like five other deputies came from behind attacked me from behind. >> Mhm. >> And they did a hog tie. And the whole time >> On you? >> On me. >> Wait a minute. OH MY >> GOSH, DID did they were they wearing body cameras? I can't remember. >> They don't wear body cameras. >> Aw. >> They don't wear body cameras. And um I've heard that maybe a couple of them might have dash cameras, but overall the policy is that they don't have dash cameras either. >> Yeah. >> So that camera like that phone like that was the only person recording. And so they they turned that off. Yeah, they did a like a hog tie on me and it was like six total like six from behind. >> Yeah, let me let me let me just say something here, okay? Hog tie I in my mind hog tying is they've got your hands cuffed behind your back and they restrain your ankles. >> And they put them together. >> And they put them together they hog tied you? >> Like uh with so like hands were handcuffed. I um they they held my ankles and pushed them. So they didn't like tie my ankles, but they pushed my ankles to my wrists and held me like that for a couple minutes. >> Oh my god. >> And >> [laughter] >> I ended up >> only I'm I'm not laughing because it's funny. This is just >> dark humor, right? It's just >> Yeah, it's like what do you do? Go ahead. >> Yeah, and it was it I thought they were just going to ask me questions. I thought they were just going to make me come out and try to ask me questions you know to catch you. So when they come flying from like you know they turn off the camera and then a bunch more come flying out of nowhere and knock me down and and I'm just like what's going on? Can you tell me give me an explanation? What is the reason? And I'm like how am I being so calm but inside freaking out. So they held us. >> yeah because you were the calm you were the calm one in that video. You were the other the the woman's name was Kim, right? >> Yes, um Yeah, they're in the video. >> Let me just refresh people's memory. Let me just play a like 60 seconds of this. >> Searched through my car. They >> Oh, actually this isn't the actual stop video, is it? >> pop the soap. >> No, there's another one on my channel. Um >> Yeah, let me look for that one. Let's see, is it this one? >> that has like the black square? >> This right here? Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, let me refresh everybody's memory. This is Kim. Now, you guys help with the home homeless, right? >> Right. We have a community outreach. So, it's not an official non-profit, it's not an official thing. >> Yeah. >> That's private property. What we're on now, it's private property. We have a friend who he lets people that are homeless live on his land to try to get stabilized. So, we >> like all the stuff here, like everything we're doing, that's private property already. So, when people watch, just to keep that in mind, cuz sometimes people don't realize we're not like in the park, we're on someone's private land. >> Right, right. So, let me play let me play this, and then you're going to you're going to fill in what happened after they took your camera from you, okay? So, let's watch this. Can you hear the audio? Okay. Okay, guys, here's what happened to Kim, and your name is Magdalene? >> Magdalene, like Mary Magdalene. >> Okay, Magdalene. Okay, great. >> We didn't do anything wrong. He's pulling us over. >> What? What? >> Guys, this is this is Sheriff Grady Judd. This is Polk County Sheriff's Department. >> I'm not opening the window. I'm not opening the window. What do you need? What do you want? >> Now, this is the this is the sheet of paper that she held up >> That she holds >> to the window and it says "I will remain silent. No searches. I want my lawyer. Please put any tickets under my windshield wiper." So, you're not You're not resisting a ticket here. You're like, "Okay, if you're going to economically penalize me, just put it under the windshield wiper. I won't resist it. I'm not required to sign." And then gives the penal code. "I'm not required to hand you my license." Penal code. "Thus, I'm not opening my window. I will comply with clearly stated lawful orders." Love it. Love it. Oh, good. I'm glad you put the map right there. >> Mhm. >> She provides her license, her insurance. >> I'm shaking. Yes. What can I help you with? What do you need? I'm not opening it. >> Does Get your driver's license. Do you have your um insurance? >> Yes, on my phone. I'm shaking so bad. I can't [ __ ] >> I do, too. I shake when they're around, too. >> Mhm. >> I am not I'm not opening the door. I'm telling you right now. I'm not I'm not [ __ ] around with these people. I'm tired of people like just thinking they can do whatever the [ __ ] they want because they have a badge. >> Hey, freaking man. >> It works for me. Okay, you have the license and then the insurance. Insurance I have on my phone. You did not ask for it. >> And then watching it back is like hard. >> I know it's like PTSD. >> to the window. Hold up the insurance to the window. >> Look at this. That's all you need. She's being compliant like this is a picture perfect compliance. Wow. Wow. >> And watch this guy that comes up on the right. >> Is that the guy Okay, the guy with the beard? >> Yeah, he's going to take a photo of her what she's showing so that >> now if you're just joining us, we're talking to Magdalene and she's the one who is sitting in the passenger seat of Kim's car right here. This is a video we covered about two or three weeks ago. >> Okay, we're surrounded. It's okay. >> About three Let's see, where's that? >> This is kind of like a you know, fast forward because we didn't know at the time. >> Yeah, yeah. >> kind of put how crazy it was. They are later going to tell her we pulled you over for the um Okay, cuz like in Florida, if there's a stop sign, you have to stop at the stop sign, but sometimes there's a painted white bar. Like majority of the time there's a painted bar on the ground. >> Yeah. >> If you touch that, it's a violation. >> Yes. >> But um if there's no white bar, you're just supposed to stop in general at the stop sign, not a certain number of inches. >> Right. >> no white bar there. There's no white bar. >> And that's why they said they pulled you over? >> At the time, no, but they don't tell her that until they never even tell me that, but they don't tell her that until she gets to booking. >> Wow. >> They said it's way later. So that's why this is I just want people to know like they claim it was just something as simple as like oh, you went over the white the white bar. >> Yeah. >> That doesn't even exist and like why didn't they tell you like like it just seems it protectable for sure uh made it up after the fact. >> Yeah, yeah. >> And it's a really rural area. So, there's no painted white bar. It's like um one of those lands where they split it up and um >> Yeah. If we were to psychologically peel back the layers here, what what do you think the cops' rationale for pulling you guys over was? What do you think they would think? >> Yeah, what what they told me, cuz when when I got released, I questioned the sergeant a lot and they said, "You were seen um in a neighborhood that we know has drug activity. And that we make it We literally said, 'We make it our mission to know who comes in and out of that property. And we didn't know you guys. And everybody who comes in and out gets um we check up on them.' >> Wow. >> And And he said to I was like, "What's what's the solution?" Because like my ministry is we try to do small small things, but really spend time with people. There's a lot of other ministries that come out of their outreaches, too. And so, I'm like "People are going to want to help. People are going to want to evangelize. People are going to want to do all types of things. >> Right. >> Like, what's the solution?" And he's like, "To burn it to the ground. >> [laughter] >> We don't want people coming out here." >> Really? >> Um and there's that's a place where there's children that live there. There is um there's families. Of course, there are um single men who have gone out of prison or who have or you know, trying to rebuild their lives or they've got like kicked out of their family situation. So, there's there's a lot. There's It's not it's definitely not all people who have um >> drug >> drug history. Oh, right. Um and there's animals. That's the thing that got me, too. There's also animals there. Like, we'll bring food for the animals. Um um cuz people will go there because they can't take their pets to a homeless shelter. So, this man who lives in a rural property, he'll let people live there and bring their pets and um So, it's just it's just a I didn't really have no time to argue, you know, cuz at that point I'd already been like beat up. So, but um >> Yeah, let's let's let's finish this and then you can talk us through it. >> Of course, yeah. >> What is he doing? >> I'M HELPING THE HOMELESS. >> Just calm down. Come down. Just >> I'm not putting the window down. No. >> Open it a crack. Just a crack. >> I'll open it a crack. That far. What do you need? >> what's break window and >> Oh, no, you're not. Oh, no, you're not. >> STOP. STOP. STOP. OKAY. STOP. STOP. >> CASTLE LAW IN Florida states that unless I'm doing something illegal you can't in Florida states >> Please states that unless I'm doing something illegal you can't in Florida states >> states that unless I'm doing something illegal YOU CANNOT COME IN >> OKAY, JUST please please explain what you need. Please explain your request. >> Tell me what what we're doing wrong. >> Can you make the request, please? What is the request? >> What do you need from me? I need from me. I want to know. It's right here. >> It's right here. >> Wow, you guys have such a good case here. Have you started a GoFundMe? >> I do have a GoFundMe. >> Okay. >> Um it's probably in the description on this video. >> Okay. Uh we're going to we're going to look at that. If I forget, please remind me, okay? And then um I don't think here, you know what? I want to take a look at the GoFundMe. >> And I guess I'll just mention the Palestine so the um I was like Palestine is a really important issue, but like um it's uh she She bumper stickers on her car and I later on, I saw them taking photos. Like they took photos of her bumper stickers, photos of like the stuff in the car, of like anything that kind of signaled her support or um for different issues. And it was kind of seeing their faces like I didn't in the moment I didn't realize it cuz I was focused on what's happening on the other side. They were looking at us with disgust like >> Yeah, it's it's everything. It's the rainbow flag. It's the Palestinian flag. And when you have like Christian conservatives like I think Grady Judd is a kind of uh it kind of all flows downhill. And then there's a big judgment that's made because I know that people who are pro-Israel despise people who have any semblance of a Palestinian flag. And um it's it's kind of a it's kind of a mental stronghold for these people. And they just view anybody who's not like them and doesn't hold their Christian beliefs as the enemy that needs to be vanquished. It's really pathetic. So I've got this I've got the fundraiser app right here, and we'll we'll come back to that. But I want to I want to just finish this so we you can tell us what happened right afterwards cuz I want to have I want to I want people to see the window break. And hey Van Balion, if you're out there, here's another window break for you. Uh tell me if you accept this kind of tyranny. >> I have my my license. I have my insurance. You have no reason to stop me. I was in that neighborhood helping those people. Thank you very much. We do mutual >> Kim is super high-spirited. And you're like the rational one in the room. It's like, "Okay, you what everything you're saying is right, but you're hurting their feelings, and this is a dangerous situation." >> Okay. Okay. >> This is the second time this has happened. >> else What What else can we provide? >> not to. Why do you need it down? >> Okay. >> You break it, I swear to God. >> What do you require? What She's on that side. >> Last minute. Oh God, there they go. God. Oh Oh my gosh. >> Why? Sorry, what is the problem? >> Get out. >> Why? Can you please explain why? >> Well, you shouldn't have broken the law. You shouldn't have broken >> I just want to know what's happening. >> Get out. >> Okay. And that's me getting out myself. >> Get out. >> Okay. And then I try to say like that's thumb there, like that's not my thumb. Like we just saw my thumb is like a long nail and that's like a weird-looking thumb. Um and so that's like the guy one of the ones that's not wearing gloves. >> Okay. >> That um grabs the suit. >> Yeah. >> yeah. >> Six officers assaulted her, demanded her cell phone, removed her cell phone by force. They paused her recording. Video ends here. See our blog. Okay, so take us from here. This is where the video cuts off. >> Yeah. Um Okay, so I held on to the phone as long as possible until they like outright said like drop it. >> [laughter] >> Like ow. Um >> Yeah. >> Cuz and and obviously those couple extra seconds helped me grab. I have another video where I do even more slow-mo. I caught more stills. But um one of them Yeah, the the first one, whatever, stubby thumb. Um he kind of flips kind of like flips me around. >> Yeah. >> Um Five other officers run over. And so they tackle me to the ground. And so it's like they're on my legs. They're on my back. They're on my neck. Um I um had a cervical contusion on my neck from being cuz they pull you back. >> Yeah. >> they push your head forward. And um I start I the grass that we were in, I'm allergic to it, so I start breaking out in hives. Like like breaking out in like a rash everywhere. I'm like in t-shirts and a short and shorts. Um they keep like not telling me like what like why why they why they grabbed me. Like why am I on the ground? Why are you touching me? They won't answer. They're just like, "Shut up, [ __ ] Shut up, [ __ ] We need to tell you you're a [ __ ] bitch." Yeah. >> They were saying that? >> Yes. >> Wow. >> turned off, um they pulled me up. And so I just thought, "Damn, this is so stupid. Like why did they knock me to the ground just to make me stand up again? Like you could have just left me standing. I would have >> [laughter] >> Like what? Okay. Okay, so they they they're like kind of like surrounding me and they're kind of like pushing me towards the squad car. And the whole time I'm like, "Can you just give me a reason? Can you just explain?" Um and they're like, "No, [ __ ] Like we don't need to tell [ __ ] nothing." And then one of them is like one of them says, um "Yeah, like shut up, [ __ ] We were cuz we were born here. We don't need to give you a reason cuz we were born here." Um and then I was like, "What the [ __ ] I was also born here." And they're like, "That doesn't matter. Like shut up." And um so that we don't have to tell you. And this part I have like my hand my hands are cuffed behind my back. And I'm like my knee is skinned and bleeding. My knee is sprained. My shoulder is sprained. Both my wrists are sprained. Um there's like grass and like covered in grass all in my hair. Um they have a squad car door open. And they won't even let me get into the squad car myself. I'm like, "I could I can get in myself. Like please don't touch me." And they're like, "No. We put you in." And they picked me up by like my knees and my shins. Cuz there's like, you know, five or six of them. Basically. That like the like the junior deputies. Um so they pick me up and like put me like backwards. You know, hands are still behind my back. Throw me backwards into the squad car. Um, that I was perfectly capable to just sitting into. It was like unnecessary um, >> unnecessary roughness. >> touching touching, roughness, like um, I already told them like, I'm already injured. And they're like, shut up, we don't care. Um, so I'm in the squad car, they leave me in there. Maybe within the first 30 minutes, a sergeant does come out and um, I ask him like, why am I here? Why am I handcuffed? And he's like, well, I actually don't know. I have to figure that out. And I'll get back to you. And so, um, he does come back and >> still you're you're still sitting in the squad car on the site where they just took you out of the car. >> Yep, and I'm watching them I'm watching them um, search through the belongings. >> Yeah. >> They have my purse. So like it's not my car. All I had was my purse, right? Um, but I see them also search through Kim's car and we had um, a lot of like a lot of the donations we had were things like beans, rice, toilet paper, and they're drug searching that stuff. We had little things that were the know your rights cards >> Yeah. >> that were about ironically, what to do in this type of situation. Which we only have because it happens a lot to the to um, people that are, you know, homeless or unhoused, like they get stopped higher rate. >> Yeah. >> They were drug searching those cards. Like they thought those cards had drug residue on them. They're using the the field test, the rapid response field test. >> Yeah, with the swab. >> Mhm, and they're and they're laying out the little, I guess little response, they're like laying them out to watch them cuz it turns a color. Um, and there's like seven cars. It is like it's it was like we were swatted, kind of. It was It wasn't just like one car. It was like um we're surrounded on our corner, and on those other corners there were also squad cars there. It was like there was a major operation, and they were searching everything. It's like they thought they thought that we were doing some type of drug smuggling with the toilet paper and the beans. Like the way they were testing >> Yeah. >> They could not It's like It's like they couldn't believe that the toilet paper was really toilet paper. It actually um >> The bathroom they could have easily planted drugs in the bathroom. >> Yeah. And Miss Kim is a diabetic. >> Mhm. >> So she did have um like the insulin, like the used insulin or like the um the the GLP-1s. >> Yes. >> So she did have those in her car, and I saw them also drug test those. >> Mhm. >> And that's when I thought like, "Oh no, that's like they could plant something there." And And it was like in a locked You know how you have like a locked um the little red like the little red containers for biohazard. >> Yeah. >> So she had that in her car, and they were they broke that open to test those. And um I And they dropped them on the ground, and I was just like I'm behind, you know, in in the squad car, but I'm like leaning all the way forward to watch cuz I'm like, "Okay, we cannot cry. We cannot freak out. We can freak out later, >> Yeah. >> but we have to focus because the camera's off, so I have to be the record with my eyes, you know, my brain." Um when they came when the sergeant came back to me, he said, "Okay, they told me the story uh and I heard that you were filming, and um I want to see the video uh of what you filmed." And mind you, like this they don't wear body cameras. So I'm like, "Hmm, okay. Sounds like a reason why they should have body cameras." But um he's like, "I'm going to bring you your phone, and I'm like, "Okay, so you're going to bring me my phone. Can I call? Because I have friends that are lawyers. I have people that are waiting on me. Like I can I just call cuz I was planning to do stuff today. Um and also like I know I have a lawyer that can cuz they clearly are not bringing me a lawyer. So I know I have like friends that are lawyers locally from my church. Um So he says if you try to use this phone to contact anybody um we will have a misunderstanding. And that would be such a shame because we've been so cool. And um if you do use it to contact somebody or sneakily contact somebody, it's only for you to show me the video. If you try to do anything else and like call for help or something, something bad will happen to you. You're going to have literally you're going to have a very poor outcome. It's going to go really poorly for you and you're going to regret you did that. And so um >> What a threat. >> Yeah, and it was like that's the nicest person there. That's the nicest person. Everyone else has been like calling me a [ __ ] and a [ __ ] and a hoe and um like beating me up, you know? So that's what the person that's like the most like the Yeah. the least the least >> at what point at what point did they hog tie you? >> Um it was wherever the the camera shuts off. That was that was it. Like it was it was like camera shuts off, I go to the ground and you see kind of in the background where people are running. Um like a minute after that. It's like a bunch of them pile on me. >> When did they release you from that hog tying? >> From that hog tie it was a couple minutes. It was >> Yeah, but cuz you can't get in the back seat of a patrol cruiser if your legs and your if you're like this. Yeah, so did they hog tie the female as well? >> No, they >> No. >> pushed her up against the car. >> And you were the calmest one of you two and they hogtied you. That's crazy. >> Yeah, [clears throat] cuz I remember when I said it's like it's like they tackle me to the ground, they hogtie me, and then they get me back up. When they got me up, they released my legs so I could stand. So, but they had me like walk over. Um >> So, have you contacted any civil rights lawyers and where does it stand right now? >> Um right now, I've contacted a few. A few have reviewed the information. Um it I'm still in like the consultation phase. So, I'm like consulting with a few to compare. So, um what I have heard is um like good so far. I guess I'm just kind of have to um finish my consultations and then pick one to proceed forward with. >> Yeah. >> still doing a fundraiser. Um with this fundraiser, so originally I was like the kind of like outreach is um was the original thing we were doing. And so then now it's like, okay, we were not expecting to have legal expenses with our outreach. And so we have, you know, we had like the update there of like everything we've been doing and how it started. Um I um still trying like raise money for my what would be a federal civil rights case. Um I don't have any charges. So, everything they could have done like they they >> Wait, they they didn't They ended up not charging you? >> Cuz they couldn't find anything. And even the sergeant Yeah. >> book but they didn't book you or anything? >> Mhm. They released me from the scene. >> But, they did book Kim. >> Yes. >> And were you able to drive Kim's car home or take it to somewhere else or did it get impounded? >> They had me drive her car home. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> But, Kim got arrested and she got booked for what? >> They said it was for obstruction. >> Uh-huh. >> So, they called like all that, they called it obstruction even though she gave all the documents. >> Yes. >> And then they they told me like the the sergeant when he saw the video, he was like, "Okay, I'm looking for evidence of you doing obstruction because the deputies say that they had to like drag you out of the car." And he was like, "I see that you didn't do anything that could be obstruction." He's like, "But we're still drug testing your belongings. So, as long as you don't have drugs, otherwise you're going to go to jail, too." >> Yeah. >> Um >> This is a perfect example of why if you ever see somebody get pulled over, just take it if you have time, take a second, take a couple minutes, stop and record because I would love to get that body camera footage where they're calling you a [ __ ] and they're treat and they're hog-tying an innocent person, man. You you talk about creating a record and making an ironclad case. And another there's there's an alternative. I I kind of have a secret weapon. If they take any of my cameras, I can still record audio. I'm not going to say what that secret is cuz cops watch my channel, but one of the best ways you can do it is with a 360 camera cuz even if it drops on the ground, you still have a 180° view. And on a lot of those 360 cameras, it's got a really good audio so you can pick up a lot of that stuff. And I'd love to have seen them mis- misuse you like that, abuse you. >> Yeah, I feel like hi- like hindsight's 20/20. I thought it would just be a simple stop and then now of course now we are like, "Okay, if if any volunteers go out to do outreach, they need to have a dash cam." Um but yeah, they could they couldn't Obviously, all my stuff was tested negative for drugs. Of course, cuz I'm not I don't know a little drug kingpin hiding drugs in toilet paper. Um So, yeah. So, there So, he was like uh it was like 30 uh It was 90 minutes in total. So, for me it was like 90 minutes in total that they that then the sergeant was like, "We can't find any evidence to continue detaining you." And meanwhile, like I'm like covered in blood, the hives are spreading, I have asthma, and I have like these little bruises forming. Like every so they just like, "We don't have a reason to continue detaining you." And I'm like, "Okay, why'd this happen though?" And he's like, "We won't let you leave the scene though until you um give us a copy of the video." Um so they're like, "Just give us a copy of the video first, and then we'll um let you you know, we'll then we'll handcuff you and then you can go." Um >> Yeah, I'm just showing pictures while you're talking about how evil you people are. Uh feeding all the homeless. You're such horrible people. You deserve the treatment from the Polk County Sheriff's Department that you got. Just kidding. You don't [laughter] deserve that. >> the owner of the that property. Uh he's a sovereign royal. Yeah, his name's Virgil. He's He's also been harassed for letting people live on his land. Um There are issues that happen with with people living cuz it is off-grid. >> Yeah. >> And they need more support, but he's willing to be a partner with the county. Like he constantly asks the county for help, and he says there's there's there's not enough resources in our county for for the homeless. So he's like, "Uh where would these people go?" >> Have you tried Have you tried reaching out to the civil rights lawyer? >> Oh, um that guy, like the civil rights lawyer? >> Yeah. >> I did send him some stuff. I think there's like that online form that they have to make submission. Um I know a lot of people have been tagging him on my videos or tag like on TikTok tagging his account. >> G Dent is also saying Southern Draw Law is another one, too. >> Southern Draw Law, okay. Thank you for that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, and still open for recommendations cuz I so far found a couple, but I want to you know, just compare. Um But >> Yeah, here's I'm going to put it up on the screen right here. Here's Southern Draw Law. He's actually a good guy and I think he is a practicing civil rights attorney. So, what I'll do is I'll drop a link to his channel and there's probably an email address you can get a hold of him at. But, I think once he sees that video, maybe he'll even cover it on his channel and get even get you even more more exposure and hopefully Lackluster will pick it up as well. >> Okay, cool. Yeah, thank you. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Hey, listen. I'm going to I'm going to move to the next caller. I so appreciate you calling in. Can you contact@highimpactflix.com is my email address. Just let me know how it's progressing for you and if you have any kind of update, I'd definitely love to cover that. >> High High Impact Flix. Definitely, thank you. >> Thank you, Magdalena. I appreciate you calling. >> for the support. >> Yeah. Yeah, we need to help people like this. That was an absolute travesty right there.