Don't say wise, ready John because why doesn't exist here. I wasn't at her house. Ready John. It's across the street. Look at Look at her. Look at her. That's Look at her face. That's wonder. >> What the hell are you doing outside at that time of night? It doesn't make any sense. Do you understand? Ready, John? It doesn't make any sense. There's a million different things you can do being outside where you don't belong and you know you don't belong out there. >> I'm sorry, but I I'm an outdoorsy person. >> You're not an outdoorsy person. You're a sit in front of the TV kind of guy. >> I don't have TV outside. >> Well, I don't know. I hope and pray you did not do this to this. >> I hope. >> June 9, 2024. Just after midnight, disturbing case involving a 91year-old woman brought detectives face to face with someone they never expected to question this way. A 14-year-old boy whose grandmother had raised him for 9 years was now sitting in an interrogation room answering questions about what happened to her. Then detectives brought up the evidence. His DNA had been found on her underwear. He had an explanation. But as the questioning continued, detectives began testing every part of his story. I'm up here in Reic. Um I'm at a house. A 91y old lady calls in saying she was just raped. Um we get on scene. Um she's beat up really bad. Tape. Um we'll lock down the house. Once she gets out, we'll wrap it up. >> It's our crime scene. I got evidence coming. Major crimes coming. Um K9's coming. You know, one's coming. >> Who do you want to go with her to the hospital? I don't care as long as someone goes. I mean, if you talk to her, that's fine. If being it's a female, maybe Alyssa can go a little bit more comfortable. >> That there was a that ladies moved out of the way, right? >> The >> with the phone. >> Yeah. >> Hey, uh have the have the the neighbor with the phone step out of our way. Uhhuh. Now, this is a >> on June 17, 2024, 8 days after the attack, investigators finally had a major break. DNA evidence connected Jesse Stone to the victim, and deputies brought the 14-year-old in handcuffs. But before they could get answers, you would spend more than two hours waiting alone in that room. >> I'm sorry. I didn't know evidence was coming out. I gave uh Christian the uh dress and the underpants in two separate bags. >> That's fine. >> There's no anywhere like when you walk around the house, no evidence of like her falling or anything. So everything she's saying and batting up. Everything is on her bed. Blood everywhere on her bed. >> The neighbor said that only Hispanics that she knows is right across this road right here. What's going on? >> Hey, do you did you see anybody run through here or anything? >> Not to my yard, but it's been good. I've been >> I went in the house at 9:30 to eat dinner. >> Okay. >> And uh came back out with my son said he saw all the cars coming up here. >> Okay. >> And I saw I was sitting there for a minute and my >> Your son live here too, >> huh? >> Your son live here, too? >> Yeah, my son lives here. My daughter and son-in-law are down here from West Virginia on occasions. >> Okay. Um, there was a car earlier that came up there like still daylight out there, but I think it was one of her friends. >> Okay. I think >> it looked familiar. Like I've seen the car before. >> Okay. >> But nobody's been in my yard because I got dogs out. So, >> Right. Okay. Um, >> feel okay. >> I hope I um >> I mean, I've known this lady since I was 10 years old. >> Okay. I mean, somebody appears somebody was over there messing with the house. So, >> uh, >> that lady's daughters wanted her to move so many times out of here, too. She kept saying, "No, no, no." >> I was out in the back working in my shop, I guess, when all this was going down. I never heard nobody yell or anything. That's what was weird. >> During the night? >> Yeah, last night. >> Yeah. I didn't come in till 9:30. He came back outside and then did the said all these lights going up the road. That's when I came back out, talked to you. Did the deputies talk to you last night? >> I gave them my name and stuff. Yeah. They just said, "Did you see anything?" I said, "No, I didn't see nothing." And they can't come through my yard cuz them two are out. >> Sure. >> Unless they jump fences. So, >> okay. >> Do you guys have video surveillance? >> No, I got a set. I don't have them up there. I'm crippled. I've been trying to >> What's the >> On June 17, 2024, investigators bring 14-year-old Jesse Stone into the Sheriff's Office after DNA evidence links him to the 91year-old victim. He has already spent more than two hours waiting alone. Now, Detective Ryan is about to begin the interrogation, and the first questions are just moments away. >> So, we sent your DNA [clears throat] and the sex kit up to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who does the testing, stuff for stuff like that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Is there any reason at all that your DNA would be on her clothes? >> Yeah, we hug. Um, when I said goodbye to her, we hugged like a a side hug. >> Okay, >> let's >> let me Well, let me be a little bit more specific. Your DNA went off her underwear. >> What? And so I want you to really use this time here to be honest with me about what happened that night because I think that we know what happened and I think that your mom knows what happened because she also wrote down a list of times that you went in and out of the house that night to include the time that the call came in. And I think you probably know that you wouldn't be in here unless we had a good reason to put you in. >> I don't see what >> it's not about see Randy John. It's truth. >> Yeah, I truth. >> It's impossible for my dean to be on her underwear. >> That's what we like to think too, brother. But that stuff doesn't lie. That stuff doesn't get made up. Sometimes the the truth can be hard. You seem like a really good guy, man. You seem like you got a good head on your shoulders. Make >> This is 14year-old Jesse Stone, also known as Randy John. Detective Ryan is now beginning the interrogation with DNA evidence already linking Jesse to the 91year-old victim. >> You can make connections with people that need help. You go out there and you help other people. And there's people out there sometimes that make mistakes. >> Come over here and >> that doesn't make you a bad person for making a mistake. >> Jesse Stone's grandmother is with him as the detectives show him photos of the victim who Stone actually beat up. She deserves the truth to be told and you know it. Personally, I can't believe that this is a horrible thing for you, John. That's a horrible thing. I don't I don't even have the ability to do that. Well, it it it's hard for me to believe, too. It's really hard for me to believe, too, that you would do a thing like this. >> I didn't. But how many times have you been caught in lies? >> I know. I and this is the whole reason why you're on restriction. It's because you're not telling the truth about things. If this woman deserves to have the truth, she deserves it and you know that. >> What? Don't say wise, Ready John. Because why doesn't exist here. >> I wasn't at her house. >> Ready John? It's across the street. Look at Look at her. Look at her. That's Look at her face. That's That's I don't even think that I've never seen you hurt anybody, but I don't want to hurt. >> What the hell are you doing outside at that time of night? It doesn't make any sense. Do you understand? Ready, John? It doesn't make any sense. There's a million different things you can do being outside where you don't belong and you know you don't belong out there. >> I'm sorry, but I I'm an outdoorsy person. >> You're not an outdoorsy person. You're a sit in front of the TV kind of guy. >> Well, I don't have TV. I'm outside. >> Well, I don't know. I hope and pray you did not do this to this guy. I hope and pray. I hope and pray you did not do this because this this is this is horrific. This is a human being and she deserves justice. She does. If this would have happened to your sister, what would you do? >> Whoever. If you know anything about this Randy John >> for her at least, if you care about her, tell the truth. Tell the truth. >> We've been down that road before where you've been lying about something and you swear up in Randy Randy John. You've lied about stuff before. >> Slowly, those detectives get Jesse Stone, whose nickname is Randy John, to confess. >> Well, let's imagine that this is the pillow. Show me what you were doing. Like if if like if if she was kind of in front of you, show me what you were doing. >> I was just kind of like holding it there so she couldn't really see me. And I was holding it down a little harder closer to her mouth so she couldn't really scream or yell. >> Okay. And at some point you said you told her to to what did you say was to be quiet? I >> I didn't say anything. I don't remember. >> Okay. I thought you said that you told >> Why did you put the pillow over her mouth? cuz I didn't want her to scream. I was just shaking. >> Was she screaming? >> She's trying to say something. Okay. >> What were you watching on the iPad? You said something very specific that you were watching videos. Tell me about that. >> Just YouTube videos. You sure about that? Cuz what I find hard to believe is that you can tell me what kind of videos you were watching in their YouTube videos, but you can't tell me what happened after you put the pillow over your mouth. I think you were watching something else on the iPad. I need you to be honest with me, Randy. Sometimes the hardest part of the story is the thing we give the least detail about. And I can understand it, man. You're 14. You have so much more of your life to live. But what we need to understand, man, is we need to understand the truth. And I think I think you're telling most of the true story here, but I think you're conveniently leaving some parts out cuz it's probably eating at your heart, man. Cuz I know it's in there. I need you to to take this off your heart, man. So, I don't I don't buy the whole I don't remember cuz I know you remember. I don't think you're some coldarted killer that doesn't remember cuz we deal with those kinds of people too, man. But I don't think Randy John's that guy. So, tell us what happened. What's the first thing that happened when you were in the when you got to the room? >> When I first got to the room was she was turned on her side. >> She turned on the her side. Is that what you said? >> No, she was turned on. >> She on her side. >> Okay. And then what? >> And just kind of step forward to make sure she's still asleep. Mhm. >> Um, I'm not sure if she heard heard me move, but we saw the in the corner of her eye, but she turned like just her head. She turned and that's when I put the pillow on her. >> Then what happened? >> She was trying to take um move the pill for us. uh in her saw and she started grabbing my shirt. That's when I let one of my hands off the pillow to try and get her hand off my shirt and she was able to move the pillow. So, I put both my hands on her face, one on my one on her eyes and one over her mouth. What makes this case even more disturbing is how ordinary everything around it seemed. This one some isolated place where nobody could hear or notice anything. This happened inside a neighborhood to someone who should have felt safe in her own home. And now investigators had to figure out who could have done this. When you say help me understand. So like you would like you you hit her face or you just covered her? >> Just covered it. >> Okay. >> And then what happened? >> She started to try and like get the rest of her body off the bed. She grabbed all one of my arms. >> Okay. >> And I just like pulling away. It's okay. >> And I let my other hand off her mouth to try and pull her off from my wrist. And then what happened, buddy? She tries to get up and I think I the first time I hit her was when I was trying to get her back down. >> What did you get with my hand? I was trying I I thought she was still like laying down and she was sitting up so my hand was pretty quick. I'm not sure where I hit her, but >> Did you have like a like a make a fist or was it like a slap or >> I think it was more of a slap. >> Okay. >> Cuz I was trying to put my hand back where it was on her mouth. >> Okay. >> You said that was the first time that you had it. What about the next time? was the first time I started trying to find something I could use to wrap her arms up. >> Did you find anything? >> I was trying to get the blankets I could, but she kept moving her arms around. I couldn't get quite get them or I could wrap them with the blanket. And then what happened? I know this is going to be our man. I don't remember if I wrapped her arms with with my arm or if I rolled her over. I don't remember what I did. >> Why would you have rolled her over to said she was on her side? And >> I would have pushed her onto her stomach. >> Okay. Is that just to keep her from like flailing off the bed or was that just to put her in a position where she couldn't like just reach up and grab me? >> Okay. When did you get on top of her? She was moving her legs around a lot and I was just trying to get her to stop moving. >> Okay. Is that why you got on top of her? >> I believe so. >> You believe so or you know so that's why I'm trying to understand that. I don't remember everything. >> I know if I know you remember, Randy. Don't Well, we've already gone through that. I know you remember. This is something you're not going to forget. I know you remember cuz you're wrapping her arms up, man. You're putting her on her stomach. Help us understand that, man. Cuz I know you're not going to forget that. >> I was panic. I know you were panicking, but I know you still remember. >> Did you rape her? Okay. But were you on top of her? Okay. Help me understand. How did it end up on the court? [music] Going to pick her up to move her farther onto the bed. And I grabbed about where the waistband was to pick her up. She like twisted or something and my arm slid down her legs. I'm not sure if that's when they came. Where you said they snapped when when you grabbed them? >> What? >> You said they What did I Didn't hear what you just said. >> I I wrapped my arm like around her waist. >> Mhm. >> And then she like twisted. >> Okay. >> And my arm like slid up her legs. >> Was it on top of her night gown? Remember for a night gown or something? >> Um I don't remember if it was on top or under. I I I feel like every time we're coming to something that's really difficult to talk about, right, John, and you're telling me you don't remember cuz what I'm trying to understand, man, is you're out there in our living room watching YouTube and then you're watching pornographic material. Like, I get it, man. I' I've been 14 before. I've been It's a totally normal and natural thing. What I'm trying to understand, man, is it went from progressing from you being in the living room to going into her room and then her underwear is on the ground. Help me understand that cuz I I I I want to believe you, Randy, John, but I I I don't know if what you're telling me is is plausible. I I think the reason you went into that bedroom was to have some sort of sexual relations with No. Tell that thing. >> I went in there to make sure she was still asleep. >> For what reason? Cuz before you you made sure she was still asleep and you slept. What I'm trying to understand is, man, why why are you grabbing blankets and tying her arms up? You're a fast guy. You could have been out of there. You could have just left, but you stayed. You put the because you put I understand you freaked out. When she woke up, she grabbed my shirt. >> I believe that. I 100% believe that. What I'm trying to understand is how a 14-year-old young man goes from watching pornographic material in the living room and probably was aroused by that. And that's fine and totally natural to going into this old woman's bedroom and then progressing to tying her up and putting her arms behind her back. I I I don't think that's how you planned on it going down. I think you did panic. I think that's reasonable. But I want to I want to know that you're telling me the truth. We we deal with this kind of stuff every day, man. Like I said, this doesn't make you a bad person, but I want to understand the truth, man. Hey Maggie, you also need to remember we've already talked with she remembers everything that happened. And we generally don't want to ask questions that we don't have the answers to right. And I I think you're being mostly honest with me except for the parts that you you just don't want to relive, man. And I don't want you to relive them either. But like we said from the beginning, man, from the jump, we're not we're not doing this for us. >> Until this point, investigators were working with statements, timelines, and a description of what happened. But the DNA result changed the direction of the investigation. Suddenly, this wasn't just about who had been outside that night. They had physical evidence connecting Jesse to the victim. We're not doing this for us. This isn't about the sheriff's office. This is about And I I saw a true reaction out of you when you saw this picture. I know you're not that kind of guy. >> Yeah, I don't think you meant to hurt it that way. >> I think you went in there with may maybe maybe hormones got the best of you and you were thinking thinking about the wrong part of your body for a moment and you know what, man? I think every teenager I've been there, I think you were just kind of caught in a bad situation. >> Did you pull them off? Did they get like tangled up? I mean, tell me like obviously we know that they came off of her body and obviously we know that your DNA's already on there. So, we we know that somehow you came into contact with them. I just want to know how. Was it some violent maneuver where you just reach in and just rip them off or did you just slide them off? She was on her stomach. >> I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you with your mouth. >> Wait, when she was on her stomach, she just like trying to get onto her knees to get up. >> Mhm. >> And I was trying to find a way to get her completely lying down. Um I was trying to lift her up to get her legs from under her. >> Okay. And I I lifted her by her underwear. >> Okay. And then I was trying to like get her lace wine to her and then I ended up pulling them off of her. So that if I went then then no one would know about it. >> She said I'm sorry. She said if you don't if you what >> if you stop now then no one would know or something like that. She said that to you. What did you say? >> I didn't say anything. I just like let go of her. >> Okay. >> I grabbed her pillow and I like put it on her head so that if she turned it, she wouldn't see me. >> Okay. And then what happened? I I left the door >> the same door you came out or the same door that you came in and that was you said earlier that was the living room door. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And then I went to my house. When I went to open our screen door, I noticed that there was blood like on my hand here. So, I went over to our hose and I washed it off. >> Okay. >> And my shoes got wet, so I took them off. >> John, I feel like you probably wish that this had never happened. Like I honestly still believe that you never really intended to hurt cuz you care about I don't intend to hurt anyone. >> But I'm still one thing I'm still a little bit kind of unclear about is what was your original reason that you went to her? Like why did you go into her house that night? What were you planning to do? just chill somewhere where I wasn't being watched and I didn't have to quite be outside. >> Okay. So, were you planning to use your iPad? >> Planning? No, just something that came in mind when I was there. >> Sure. >> Kind of an opportunity deal. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And that's when you were watching the pornography and stuff. >> Okay. >> How many times have you gone in house like this kind of in the middle of night? white lounge the first time and every other time that I've been walking outside for the most part just like chilling outside either in the backyard or across the street. >> Yeah. Have you tried her doors before? >> No. >> Cuz it's kind of odd that the the first time >> you got in was the night she left the door open. Explain that to me. Cuz I know when I talked to Detective Haran before we came and talking with you, you made a statement to them about how she always locks her doors. >> Yeah. >> So, help me understand that, Randy John. One night, she leaves the door unlocked. You make it inside. >> I went over there the first time and I decided to see if the door was open. But I didn't go to that door first. I went to her sliding doors on the other side of the house. >> The porch door? >> No. Yeah. Next kitchen counter next to the table. It's like >> Oh. Oh, I see what you >> Yeah, that's the blinds here. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um I tried those doors first and they were locked. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> And then I went to the kitchen window and I tried to see if that would open. You mind if I get some more stuff? Sure. So, how old were you when you started watching the porn videos? [snorts] >> My friend showed them to me when I was 10. >> 10. So, you've been watching them since you were 10? >> Off and on. Yeah. >> Okay. How often do you think you were watching them before you got put on restriction? >> Once or twice a week. >> Okay. And what kind of stuff were you watching? Watching looking at pictures. Were you watching videos? >> Next up. >> Notice how the detectives keep bringing him back to one question. What happened? They were no longer just asking where he was or what he remembers. They asking him to explain the evidence in his own words. And as the pressure builds, his answers become just as important as the question. >> Mix of both. >> Mix of both. Okay. And what what site do you normally use? >> Oh, X and XXX. >> XN XX. And that's that's all it's called. >> You just put that into Google. XNXX. >> Yeah, it was the website my friend show me. >> Okay. >> In her rocking chair in front of the door. >> Okay. Gotcha. So, what was the last time like before then when you had seen her or I guess talked with her like kind of like you did that day? >> I The last time I'd seen her before that was probably about I want to say a week and a half before she was um um driving down the road from like church or something. >> Oh, okay. >> And she just stopped and said hi real quick. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then do you remember the last time like my understanding when we spoke the first time >> and correct me if I got this wrong that you when you were younger you used to go over and talk with her quite a bit. >> I'd go over talk help her. >> She's never asked for your help to do those types of like household chores or like laundry or whatever. >> Okay. >> I know I've helped with the laundry machine but not to do laundry. >> Not like you've never done her laundry for her bed sheets or anything like that? >> No. Um, you've never like taken a nap or slept in any of the bedrooms or anything like that? >> No. >> Okay. Um, do you remember if you've ever been in any of the bedrooms? >> No. >> No. >> No. I've never been in any any room other than the living room, kitchen, the bathroom. >> Okay. >> Well, Randy Don, I think you probably know that I wouldn't ask that question unless I had a reason to. >> Okay. So, I'm just going to be honest with you because I mean I I feel like you've been mostly honest with me and I know your mom's been honest with me. Is it okay if I call you his mom? Okay. I don't mean dead. It's >> okay. >> Um but when I came over to you on I think that was Sunday and I was asking you about your clothes and the video and such and I explained that I wanted to get your DNA cuz I knew that you had been over there before cuz you mentioned like you told us today that you had talked with her. So, I knew that you at the very least there would be evidence of you being in the porch. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, I went and met with your mom and you guys signed a consent form and we got your DNA. >> Uhhuh. >> Okay. So, we sent your DNA and [clears throat] the sex kit up to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement who does the testing and stuff for stuff like that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Is there any reason at all that your DNA would be on her clothes? Yeah, we h um when I said goodbye to her, we hugged like a a side hug. >> Okay, >> that's >> Let me Well, let me be a little bit more specific. Your DNA went off her underwear. >> What? And so I want you to really use this time here to be honest with me about what happened that night because I think that we know what happened and I think that your mom knows what happened because she also wrote down a list of times that you went in and out of the house that night to include the time that the call came in. And I think you probably know that you wouldn't be in here unless we had a good reason to put you in. >> I don't see what >> it's not about see Randy John. It's truth. >> Yeah, I truth. >> It's impossible for my dean to be on her underwear. >> That's what we like to think too, brother. But that stuff doesn't lie. That stuff doesn't get made up. Sometimes the the truth can be hard. You seem like a really good guy, man. You seem like you got to get head on your shoulders. You have to make connections with people that need help. You go out there and you help other people. And there's people out there sometimes that make mistakes. >> Come over here. >> That doesn't make you a bad person for making a mistake. But we just need to understand like who who is Randy John, man? My god. Okay. >> I I don't know. >> And we don't think that that was the intention, but we need to understand what what happened. >> Freddy, let me I want to be real clear with you. We know what happened. What I want to hear from your own words everything that went on that night. God. Holy cow. I want to know why this happened. Randy, help us understand him. Randy, ready? Randy, look at me for a second. You did this exact same thing when I asked you about you walking down the road or down the road at 11:00 and you did the whole I don't I don't remember and I was like and you finally admitted to it. And I think this is a this is the exact same thing. I know what happened and it's only going to help you for you to be honest with me about what happened because like I said, we know what happened because we have your DNA at the quing. She said it's not like we're talking about a sweater that it was found on. It's It's in this elderly woman's underwear. >> What do you think that you're We're putting everything out here and you're kind of just looking at all this. >> This is where the pressure becomes personal. The detectives had already confronted him with evidence, but now it's his own grandmother asking him to face what happened. She isn't just asking for an explanation. She's reminding him that the victim deserves the truth. and watch how the conversation keeps circling back to one thing. Why was he out there that night? >> You're kind of looking at all this, man. I know it might be a shock, but what are you thinking? >> I'm overly confused. >> What are you confused about? >> I wasn't even near her house. I I was across the street for a whole hour. You were gone. Yeah, I said I was gone for about an hour. >> Mom, I don't know if you want to have a couple minutes to talk with your son. >> Lady, I want you to real think real long and hard about everything that happened. [snorts] And I want to do this, listen, more than I want to have the truth from you about what happened cuz I know that you know what happened. I want to do this for her. If she is as an amazing of a person as you say she is, and I believe you because I've talked with her, getting all of this out in the open for her is what matters. She deserves the truth to be told and you know it. Personally, I can't believe that this is a horrible thing for you, John. That's a horrible thing. I don't I don't even have the ability to do that. Well, it it it's hard for me to believe, too. It's really hard for me to believe, too, that you would do a thing like this. >> I didn't. But how many times have you been caught in lies? >> I know, but And this is the whole reason why you're on restriction. It's because you're not telling the truth about things. If this woman deserves to have the truth, she deserves it and you know that. >> Why? Don't say wise, ready, John, because why doesn't exist here. >> I wasn't at her house. >> Ready, John? It's across the street. Look at Look at her. Look at her. That's Look at her face. That's That's I don't even think they thought I've never seen you hurt anybody, but I don't want to hurt. >> What the hell are you doing outside at that time of night? It doesn't make any sense. Do you understand? Ready, John? It doesn't make any sense. There's a million different things you can do being outside where you don't belong and you know you don't belong out there. >> I'm sorry, but I'm I'm an outdoorsy person. >> You're not an outdoorsy person. You're a sit in front of the TV kind of guy. >> I don't have TV outside. >> Well, I don't know. I hope and pray you did not do this to this woman. >> I hope and pray I hope and pray you did not do this because this this is this is horrific. This is a human being and she deserves justice. She does. If this would have happened to your sister, what would you do? >> Whoever, >> if you know anything about this, Randy John >> for her at least, if you care about her, tell the truth. Tell the truth. I >> we've been down that road before where you've been lying about something and you swear up in Lanny Ray John you've lied about stuff before. >> Jesse's grandmother leaves the room and the detectives do most of the talking. >> I just got done talking to your mom and she said that I mean you're you're 14, right? I think every 14-year-old's got some uh some thoughts about what a woman's like and things like that. And I I heard that you've been kind of exploring some nudity and pornography. Is that is that what's going on, man? Cuz the thing is, grandma's got no reason to lie to me, and you have no reason to lie to me about that either. >> That's totally normal and totally fine. >> So, is that something you've been I heard you're taking grandpa's phone and taking a look at that? >> No, I don't do it on Grandpa's phone. I haven't been able to do it and since I had my computer because she takes everything away. Well, is it true that you were looking at some of that stuff? Like I said, it's totally normal, man. Okay. And like I said, I think Detective Harding said it's totally normal to want to find out about these things, especially for someone. It seems like you really truly cared about this woman, >> you know, and maybe you just wanted to figure out what what was what, man. >> What it was what >> maybe you went into there you didn't you didn't expect for her to be awake. And so you freaked out and panicked because that's what it looks like is that this was a oh [ __ ] and then maybe you just locked around not expecting her to maybe you just wanted to knock her out. Didn't want to you didn't think you were hurt of this bad. >> Mhm. >> And then you got out of there. Cuz what we're trying to figure out, Randy John, is like taking part like we're we're pretty certain of what happened. What we're trying to figure out is Randy John the kind of guy that that breaks into people's houses with axes and chops him up into pieces and leaves him and murders them or did Randy John just make a mistake? Did he go into a house and expect this 91y old woman to be sleeping and maybe figure out something about life and then things just went arry? Cuz it like thing is people panic, man. And people do things that they don't mean and they don't want to do and they panic. >> Honestly, Randy John, I feel like you probably wish that this had never happened. Like, I honestly still believe that you never really intended to hurt. >> Did you hurt? >> Yeah, I don't intend to hurt anyone. >> There's a difference between admitting part of a story and explaining what actually happened. Here, the detective notices that Jesse can describe some details, but becomes uncertain when the questions turn to the most important moments. That contrast matters because in this interview, the gaps in his account are becoming just as revealing as the answers themselves. >> Sure. So, how old were you when you started watching the porn videos? My friend showed them to me when I was 10. >> 10. So you've been watching them since you were 10? >> Off and on. Yeah. >> Okay. How often do you think you were watching them before you got put on restriction? >> Once or twice a week. >> Okay. And what kind of stuff were you watching? Watching looking at pictures when you watching videos? >> A mix of both. >> Mix of both. Okay. And what what site do you normally use? >> Oh, XNXX. >> XNXX. And that's that's all it's called. >> You just put that into Google. XNXX. >> Yeah. That was the website. >> After hearing both sides, the judge delivers a sentence that will define Jesse Stone's future. 25 years in prison, followed by 30 years of probation. He was only 14 when the crime happened. But for the victim and everyone affected by what happened, the consequences will last far beyond this courtroom. And as the hearing comes to an end and one question remains, how did a boy trusted by this family become the person standing before the court today. >> Matthew, do you have your passport? >> Um, no, he has. >> Okay. I'll be right back. >> Can I have you come with me? Please have his passport. I'll come talk to him in just a minute. We're going to go. >> Okay. >> Okay. Matthew, I have some unfortunate news. You have a warrant out of Florida. >> Are you aware of that? >> No. >> Okay. Well, you have a warrant out of Florida that has a nationwide extradition. Okay. So, go ahead and stand up and face the wall. You're going to be placed under arrest. want to test. >> So, my partner's going to search you. Just make sure you don't have any weapons or anything like that on you, and we'll do our best to explain what's going on. Okay. >> Okay. Hopson. >> Um, and this is Detective uh, Pinto. >> So, I'm going to kind of talk to you and explain why I'm here and why we called you down here. Okay. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Um, so what I do, I do the internet crimes against children. So IC and what that is is there is the online world [snorts] when things are being shared conversations you know nothing ever goes away on >> this is another case involving 18-year-old Matthew Muksheni high school senior under investigation detectives question him about his Discord account while officers search his family home >> nothing ever goes away on the internet right so when certain conversations happen, they get flagged in the system. When that happens, it goes to an organization called NickMick, which is kind of like a clearing house for the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Um, I'm not here because of any missing kids, okay? >> Um, I don't have any concern with that with you. Um, but I do want you to know that that's kind of how my investigation started. You don't have to talk to me. You're free to go at any time. Tell me to Pacan. Whatever. I know you're only here for first period. >> What is Pacan? >> Pacan. Like I'm not talking to you. Yeah. >> Sorry. It's a term from when I grew up. >> Um, so my investigation is in regards to Discord. Do you have a Discord account? >> I do. >> Okay. Do you mind sharing with me your account information? >> Um, yes. >> Okay. Um, yes. you'll share it or um probably the account that you don't have access to is literal loaf of bread. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, this is what's going on. Um if you don't mind just putting your phone down right here. Okay. Um is your account was flagged. Okay. That's why you don't have access to it. And I think you know why your account was flagged. >> Do you have an idea? >> I think so. >> Okay. Why don't you tell me if you want young people? So that's why I'm here. Um so I will let you know right now there are there's another group headed to the house. Okay. Um, when I received the cyber tip, it included at least three images of what was on your Discord account. Okay. Um, the girls were one of them was probably around eight, the other one, you know, 11ish, and then a super super young one. Um, the people you were having conversations with, do you know who those people are or is it just kind of someone you met on a server? >> It was just random people. >> Okay. Um, I know I've got kids, too, so I know Discord's on the phone. Did you use your uh computer at home at all when you were communicating? Okay. Um, is there a passcode on your computer at home? Mind sharing it if there is or? >> Yes, there is. >> Um, do you mind sharing the passcode? >> It's um, >> hold on. >> And am I going to jail? >> Um, not today. Okay. Uh, >> yes. So, this is kind of the process, okay? Um, you know, since you confirmed the account and everything, you're being super cooperative. All right. Um, today I'm just here talking to you, okay? Um, we did out of courtesy, uh, your mom's going to know that we're up here, okay? Um, it'll be up to you on what you want to explain to her. I don't know if um you know I got a couple of bosses that are going to the house. They might explain something to her. I don't know. Okay. Um so although you won't be leaving here with your phone today, you're more than welcome to go get another phone. Okay. Um do you uh is there going to be anything on your phone or on your computer or anything like that? Okay. Do you mind sharing the passcode to your phone? Okay. And um I when I went through your Discord account, I think you had the one computer set up like a gaming >> Yes. >> Do you have any other electronics at home? >> I have a laptop for school stuff and a backpack. >> Is that um is it school property or No, >> it's personal property. Okay. There's nothing on that. >> Uh, what schooling do you use that for? The dual enrollment stuff. >> Yeah. It's not through PSC though. It's like a personal laptop. >> Okay. Um, so when you're accessing the Discord and you're exchanging the child pornography, what devices are you using? >> Okay. Okay. Um, how >> when the detective asks why his account was flagged, Matthew says he thinks he knows. Then she explains what investigators received. A cyber tip containing images they believed involved very young children. And while this interview is happening at school, another team is already searching his home. >> Um, how long has it been going on? >> How how'd you get into the world? Again, here the audio is redacted because the detectives with the Santa Rosa County Sheriff's Office say that Machznney made an admission. The questioning continued. So, you guys are trading people your age, age appropriate. Okay. Um, did it just get to where you wanted younger because people your age just wasn't? And I know this is going to sound weird. It's very normal. Um, it's not, but it is in this world. um you know, you start off watching the pornography that's going to be around your age and then it just no longer satisfies you. So, you look for something else? Um, is that what happened? You just started going younger and younger and younger or >> No, I I I really just I like people my age and I >> I wanted to just see more of that and So, how did you get a hold of the younger stuff that I had printed out? Um, let's see. With a Skyler, do you remember a conversation with the Skyler? >> No. >> Okay. And and it's not uncommon, you know, you said you were talking to random people. that's totally fine. Um, and but they're saying that they have a mega links. They're not a scammer. Um, you know, and in this world it some people can be a little nervous. You know, you're scamming me for this kind of stuff. Um, did anybody ever send you any mega links? Did you save any of that stuff or do you have your own mega? >> No, I don't have my own. Okay. Is there on your new Discord um account, were you continuing uh those kinds of conversations and videos? No. Okay. >> I I haven't talked to any >> Okay. Do you remember about when you made the new account? I think like the day after my first one got >> Okay. And because I do use it to talk with friends and >> No. And that that's like kids don't text anymore. They use Discord or they use Snapchat. Um >> that or um Yeah, I don't use Instagram or not Instagram. I don't use Snapchat actually. >> But yeah, it it's it's crazy. You know, you got some generations that don't like to text, which is probably like, you know, your mom, your dad. Then you have the generation. For us, we prefer texting sometimes over phone calls. And then y'all's generation don't even text. Y'all are using like Discord and WhatsApp and things like that. Um, it's just weird how things change over time. Um, have you met anybody in person? Uh, >> no. >> No. Okay. So, you haven't done any in-person trades or anything like that? >> I've never met with anybody in person or anything for that. >> Okay. Um, who's home right now? >> Um, my dad and my brother was at the gym. >> He might be back. I think he's probably back by now. >> Okay. Um, [clears throat] is there Does anybody else have access to your account? >> Like my Discord account? >> No. >> Okay. Does anybody else have access to your computers? My parents know my password. Okay. >> But they don't go on it. >> Okay. If if they were to go on your computer and snoop through it, do you have a hidden folder or anything so that way they don't find these images? >> I don't. >> If you don't like the younger ages. >> Okay. And when you're doing the trading, are you only doing it on Discord or is there another application like uh Telegard or Telegram, WhatsApp or or are you only doing it on Discord? Is there a sessions account on your phone or on the on the computer? So, it's not on your phone. Okay. Are there um any questions that you have? >> Am I still going to college? >> So I cannot Where are you going? >> USF. >> USF. >> I've already been accepted and >> Okay. So that >> scholarships. >> Yeah. That will be up to them. Okay. Um I'm not going to be reaching out to them. I'm not going to be calling them. It's whatever their policies and things like that. Okay. Um the plan today is you go back to class and you do what you need to do for the remainder of the day if that's you know skipping your dual enrollment. That's whatever you need to do. Okay. Um >> I I leave after first period, >> right? No, I know. That's why we had to come up here first period. Um do you normally go home after first period or? >> Um today I am. >> Okay. Well, don't be surprised that when you go home that we may still be there. Okay. If that's the case, depending on what we've got going on, you can't go in the house yet or you won't be able to go in your room yet until we leave. Okay. Um, are there any electronics in your car? >> Phone charger. >> Just a phone charger. Okay. >> Phone charger. >> Um, and what kind of phone is that? >> Uh, iPhone 13. >> iPhone 13. Okay. >> Do you have any other phones at the house? family phones, but none for me. >> I don't have a second phone. >> Okay. Um, so, but just so you are aware, you know, there was I did do up a search warrant for the house. Okay. Um, so regardless of if you were home, if you weren't home or anything like that, we were still going to go to the house. Okay? And then we were just going to track you down if you weren't at school. Okay? >> [snorts] >> Um, so it'll be up to you on what you want to explain to your parents. Okay. Um, I'm not sure what information is being relayed to your dad. Um, but you are 18, so to an extent. Um, I don't have to tell them anything if you don't want me to. Okay. Um, but other than that, that's how I'll leave it today. Okay. Um, and then I will do up a search warrant to have a forensic analysis done for your devices. >> When the detective asks why his account was flagged, Matthew says he thinks he knows. Then she explains what investigators received. A cyber tip containing images they believed involved very young children. And while this interview is happening at school, another team is already >> done for your devices and depending on what comes back will determine, you know, how we move forward, what charges, uh, how many charges and things like that. Okay, deep breath. It'll be okay. It sucks right now. Um, but it's not the end of the world. Okay. Um, your parents will likely chew your butt out, okay? Depending, >> to each their own on how they parent, but yes, um, but just know they do still love you, okay? You don't look like you're in a family where you're going to be shunned or anything like that. They love you. It's just going to be um everybody's going to have to process this, okay? And they may process it differently. Um so just kind of I say be aware of that. You're only 18. You don't really understand things like that. Um but just know everybody is going to be affected by this and they kind of deal with everything differently. Okay? The way you process something is different than how your mom's going to process something. Okay. Um but the time frame for stuff to come back, you know, it can be maybe 2 or 3 months. Um I can't give a good answer on that because I'm not in the forensic and it really depends on their case load. Okay. Um but I will Um, I've got a card in my car if you would like my card that's got my contact info. Or we can just leave our info with your parents. What would you like to do? >> Could I take the card? >> Yeah. Yeah. Let me go get you one. Okay, bud. Um, and what I'm going to do, I'm going to put this on. >> Yeah. Put on airplane. Um, >> I'm going to shut that off. >> Yeah, she go. She said she's not reaching out to colleges. >> No, we don't do that. Um, if the college pulls some kind of like record for you and they can see, they can get that deep in, then the college will make that decision. But we we won't go out of our way to try and ruin your college entry or anything like that. That's that's up to the college itself. >> So it's only if like they did a search or something and they saw like >> Yeah. I don't know what they do as far as who they admit and whatnot. But if they were to request something from you from law enforcement's backgrounds, then something. But again, we're not going to call them and be like, "This is what this is what's happening." Um, so we're going to get out of here. Okay. Um, but like I said, you're more than welcome to get a new phone. You can disconnect this phone. And you >> Some of Matthew's answers are redacted in the released interview, but the report says he confirmed the Discord account was his, believed it had been flagged because of the images being shared and acknowledged that evidence could be on his phone and computer. Investigators then seized his phone as the inquiry continued >> and, you know, transfer your phone number over and things like that. Okay, so you're not having to go through that whole mess. Um, you absolutely can get more electronics. Nobody's stopping you from doing any of that. Okay. Um and then if you got any questions, my cell phone number is on there, my work email, my work desk phone, um I text, it's whatever you need. Okay. All right. Well, you head off to class and um >> What time is it? >> 10:04. So, time for you to go home. But, um, we don't plan on, you know, trying to really dork everything up today. Okay. So, if you go home, just know we're probably still there cuz when we leave here, that's where I'm going to head over. Okay. Okay. >> Thank you, sir. >> What do you see? Look closely at his story. Was it really an accident or is he leaving something out? Share your theory in the comments. And for more interrogation breakdowns, hidden details, and psychological analysis, like the video and subscribe to Verdict Interrogation.