[snorts] >> You're refusing. >> No, no. I'll do it. >> I don't think you are. You have film or anything like that in here? >> Can you open your mouth, please? >> Okay, thank you. >> This starts like a normal DUI arrest, but something about her behavior doesn't quite add up, and one question from the officer changes everything. >> No, I won't I I'm not I won't >> Have a seat. >> Why did you >> Right now, we're waiting for my sergeant to get here, and we're going to go through some things. >> I just want to go home. I'm sorry. I want to call my dad. >> All right, it's not going to happen right now. >> Why? >> Like I said, we're we're going to wait. >> Why can't I call my dad right now? Why not? I would like the right to call my father. >> That is >> So, can I please call him right now? >> No. >> Why? Why not? I want the right to call my dad right now. I want the right >> getting Like I said, we're going to wait. >> Well, I would like the right to call my father right now. >> and call him later. >> Well, I would like to do it right now. Do I not have that right? >> No, you do not. >> Why? >> It's not a law that you have to sit there and have a phone call right now. >> I would like to call my dad right now. >> Well, unfortunately, that's not going to >> Why? >> I've already explained it to you. Like I said, right now, we're going to wait. Sergeant's to get here and we're going to go through some things. >> I would like to call someone right >> Okay. We'll just sit and wait and we'll for right now. >> Why can I not call someone right now? >> Cuz we don't have a phone for you. >> Can you contact someone? >> I'm not going to contact anybody. >> Why? >> I already explained it to you. >> I would love to if I could contact my father right now, that would be great. So, can I please contact my dad? Please. Why? >> I already explained it to you. >> Uh you clearly have the ability to let me contact my father. So, why are you not letting me? >> Because you right now we're waiting. >> Waiting for what? >> I already explained it >> So, can I contact my father? Why? >> Because we've already I've already explained it to >> For what reason? >> You were on your way to the door. >> Can I call my dad? >> No. >> Why? >> Because >> 25-year-old woman is sitting in handcuffs pleading one demand, let me call my dad. She argues with the officers, insists they have no proof, and refuses to let it go. Then suddenly everything changes. She's laughing, talking about her kitten, cereal, and ice cream. Until one officer looks at her face and asks, "Are your eyes normally that big?" From that moment on, the conversation takes a very different turn. >> Thanks. >> Just again, so you know you're being recorded, okay? >> You want to do your part first or >> Um I'll let you do your thing and um Okay. >> So sorry about my nose. I'm I was out of tissue. >> No problem. >> Does anyone here have a tissue or >> I'm happy to give you one. >> Maybe or >> I'm just going to do a breath solution. That's awesome. I don't think I can do breath test. It's going to be a mandatory solution change. The only other one I would say would be up at the the jail. Yeah. Which I just changed the solution up there, so Okay. Do you want to go there and then we can go to either Roper St. Francis or whatever. >> I have something that I could just pick. >> Or Center Point. >> All right. >> Either one. >> So in reference to your part, this has to go first and then your part? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> We'll do that. >> Is there anyone that you guys could explain to me what's happening or >> So I'm going to take you to Charleston County. They have a BA room that looks like this. >> Yeah. >> Because this box is not working properly. So I'm going to take you to one that is working properly. >> Okay. >> Okay? >> And what is that box doing? >> It provides a breath sample to see what the alcohol levels Pretty much without getting super in details of how it works and all that, that's generally what what it is. All right? >> just go? >> Unfortunately, you cannot go with this time. I got to wait for the judge anyway and then he's going to sign that warrant, so >> Um I'm going to call um There's another DRE team, so we can do a a dual eval. >> Okay. >> Um and then we'll >> What if I just refuse it? >> At this point you cannot refuse. >> Why? >> Because it's the law. So we suspect >> I can refuse. >> You cannot at this >> No, I know that I can. >> You cannot. You must provide >> call my dad? >> You cannot call anyone at >> Why can't I call my dad? >> So we're going to go up to where we're going to go. >> just confused because everybody keeps saying I can't call my dad. I can call my dad. >> You're under arrest and you are over the age of 18. You are not required to give a phone call until you're at the jail and booked in. You understand that? >> So there's >> You're not a minor. We're not required to call your parents. You're an adult. >> But I have to be moved to a different location to get my >> You're in custody of the police department. So you are required to go where they advise you to go to. All right? Good. I'll call the other one and then we'll follow. >> So there's no way that I can just get like >> Just hang tight. It's going to be a little bit. Our judge is on the way to sign some paperwork. >> I'll call the other one and then um >> I just want to like get it over with and go home. >> Right now we're in Just hang tight. >> I can't call my dad? >> Not right now. You can, but not now. Once I get you down to the jail and booked in, then you can call your dad. >> Can I just call him? >> No. You cannot. >> But what did I do? Nobody has any proof of anything that I did. So give me the right to call my dad. Nobody has a right to deny that from me. Right? >> Can you just hang in there, okay? Just hang in there, okay? >> But you Nobody proved anything. So, give me the right to call my dad. Nobody proved anything. Nobody proved anything. So, give me a phone so I can call my dad, please, right now. >> Right now. >> Why? >> Cuz you can't have >> She hasn't even been questioned yet, but she's already locked onto one demand, calling her father. She keeps asking the same question, refusing every explanation she gets. At first, it sounds like frustration, but the real question is why this phone call matters so much to her right now, and what changes once she realizes she's not leaving. >> I want to call my dad. >> I suggest that you stop. >> I suggest that you give me something so I can call my dad, please. >> Right now. >> Why don't you help me here? Why are you being so mean? Why can't I just call my dad? Please. >> You're not listening. >> For what? You >> You were not required to get a phone call till you are booked into the jail. >> Really? I'm 25 years old. >> a minor. You are under over the age of 18. >> You don't have proof of anything. >> you, ma'am. >> For what? >> I did not arrest you. >> Right. >> Holly Beach arrested you. >> So, can I please get a phone call? >> not. >> Why? >> Because you're in custody. >> For what? >> For felony driving under the influence. >> Oh, really? Did you prove that? >> I wasn't there. I'm telling you what the >> Oh, okay. So, you have no proof. So, please give me a phone so I can call someone. You seem like you might be a little bit more Can I have a phone so I can call my dad, please? >> have a phone to call >> Why? Why are you being so mean to me? >> being mean to you. >> No one proved me for [ __ ] or anything. >> Stop. You're a grown adult and you're crying on camera. Stop. >> Hello hi camera. Yeah, I'm crying because he's not letting me call my [ __ ] father even though they haven't proven [ __ ] and don't have any right for me not to be able to contact my family or anyone that I want to. So yeah, hello. I'm crying and I'm being just a little baby. >> Stop. >> Oh, stop. Yeah, stop. Let me call my dad. >> allowed to call anyone. >> Why? >> You're in custody. >> Why? >> arrest. >> Why? >> Because following me to arrest you. >> Give me I want to talk to my dad. I want to talk to my lawyer. I want to talk to my dad. Oh, I can't do that? Really? >> asking you any questions. >> You guys? Okay, never mind. I'll let this camera talk for me. Don't let me do that. It's okay. You guys look actually more dumb by letting this camera do exactly what you're doing. I'll just sit here. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> For several minutes the conversation almost feels normal. Then the subject returns to the same issue. Why can she call someone? But now there's a bigger problem. She still seems convinced that being unproven means she should shouldn't be in custody at all. And when the officers finally tell her exactly what she's under arrest for her reaction changes. >> Then prove it. Then prove that I was driving under the influence. Then prove it. >> All right. Hello. Okay. >> Thank you. The beach I not have to wear sunscreen so >> Um I think by the time you got there, it would be just as long, so you just want to wait. >> Okay. It's on. I'm going to start it now. I'm going to get all this done while we're waiting. >> Oh, yeah. So >> We changed it after the at the jail like 30 minutes ago, and it was taking like 25 minutes. So >> Yeah, I'd rather wait. >> Yeah. >> They call me the bat queen. >> Oh, yeah? >> I said >> No. >> Whatever. And I grew up in like a super rural area, so we had like a bunch of bats that would like swoop in like in our like yard. >> Where at? >> New Jersey. >> Oh. >> Originally. Um but western Jersey, so like close to PA. And um my siblings would always be like bats like to like sweep in on like people with dark hair. So we'd be like, you know, having fun like in our backyard, and be like, >> Did you go to school here? >> I went to Coastal Carolina University. Um graduated, and then I was like, "Oh my god, why would I go back to Jersey when I could just live here, you know?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um I'm a super like I'm not a 9-to-5 person. I tried to do it, but now I just like I'm super into like animal rescue and >> What do you >> and stuff like that. Huh? >> Is that what you do for work? >> Um as of right now, I'm like half animal rescue, half serving. I used to work at Total Quality Logistics. >> Oh, like roadside serving? >> No, Total Total Quality Logistics is I was a freight broker. I was a broker. Like It was hard ass work. But um and I was making like mad money, but I just didn't want to like sit in front of like a screen anymore. >> Mhm. >> So then I quit that and then I decided that I wanted to like, you know, be happy. So um I'm currently like serving right now. And just saving up money and I also help friends with like um animal like rescue and stuff like that. So I just got this new kitten. And his name is Theodore. But I named him Theo. Cuz I have a Joseph. But his name is Joey. So you know what I mean? It's like >> How many cats do >> Joseph, Joey and then Theodore, Theo. So two now. >> Two. >> Yeah. Do you have any cats? >> I have a dog. >> What kind? >> A Springer Spaniel. >> Springer Spaniel. What's his name or her name? >> Winston. >> What is it? >> Winston. >> Winston? >> Yeah, like the cigarette. >> name. I don't smoke cigarettes, so I won't know, but do you have any animals? >> No. My roommate has a dog. >> Oh, really? >> Mhm. >> What kind? >> Husky pit pitbull mix. Yeah. >> Husky pitbull mix? What's his name? >> Duke. >> Duke. That's a good name. >> Yeah. >> Wait, so where did you grow up? >> New York. >> New York? What part? >> Long Island. >> Oh my goodness. I'm from Jersey. >> Yeah, that's what I heard. >> Oh my goodness. You're like right around right around town. Right around town. >> Yeah. >> Okay, cool, cool. And where did you grow up again? >> Long Island. >> Oh right, yeah. You're just local. We're just the annoying people that just come and invade your space. Sorry. >> Did you work tonight? >> Tonight, no, I did not. >> Okay. >> Just out and about? >> Just living my life, you know, just, you know, trying to be a happy person as everyone tries to be and um Yeah. >> It's good. >> But I do have a new kitten. The same as Theo, Theodore. But >> The explanation doesn't calm her down. It gives her something new to fight. She repeatedly demands proof of the DUI while still circling back to the phone. But notice the shift. She's no longer just asking for help. She's challenging the legitimacy of the entire situation. And then instead of escalating further, she suddenly starts talking like everything is completely normal. >> Oh, I love Mount Pleasant. I used to live in Mount Pleasant. >> Did you? >> Yeah. Okay, that's not bad though. Yeah, I liked Mount Pleasant, but I liked James Island more, honestly. >> Mhm. >> Just more space, more like like trees and like land, you know? >> Yeah. >> So, personally, I liked it >> Mhm. >> better than Mount Pleasant. I could see why people like Mount Pleasant more, but I like James Island. Or like even Johns Island. >> Yeah. >> I'm more of like a nature like trees, space, >> Mhm. You know. Mount Pleasant's a little developed. >> Yeah. A little too developed for me. And they charge >> They do. >> to live there. And I'm like, I would rather like live like somewhere that has more space and the same amount of money, you know? So. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. That's me though. I'm not going to lie. I've been holding my pee in for a long time. >> You need to use the bathroom? >> Well, how much longer is this going to take? >> This is going to take at least like 10 15 minutes for that to get ready before we can do anything. >> Um well, what's your guys' favorite cereals? >> Cereal? Probably Crunch Berries. >> Captain Crunch Berries. >> Yeah. >> Good choice. >> Honey Nut Cheerios. >> Mm. Take it or leave it guys. You know, I am going to have to agree with him. Captain Crunch Berries is a really good choice. >> Never had it. >> What? What? What about ice cream? >> Mint chocolate chip. >> Oh my god. Thank you for saying that because there's so many people that say that they hate mint chocolate chip and I'm like, it's good. What about you? >> Probably Cherry Garcia. >> [ __ ] yes. Oh my god. I also love Cherry Garcia. >> Yeah, that's my favorite. >> It's so good when you get that little cherry in there. So good. >> I'm saying it. >> Those are good. You know, my favorite personally is soft serve vanilla with rainbow sprinkles. >> Good choice. >> But I'm a soft serve girly. But if I do want hard serve, mint chocolate chip and Cherry Garcia are definitely on the top of my list. That's five shots. >> Mhm. >> Okay, favorite fast food? >> Chick-fil-A. >> Oh my word. Are you serious? You said you're from the north and you picked Chick-fil-A? >> I never really eat fast food though. >> I can't even with you. >> Deli's were a lot better up there. >> Of course, we have good deli's up north. Yes. >> I went there to get a deli. >> I changed mine. White Castle. >> White Castle? >> [ __ ] yes. Oh my god, hell yeah. White Castle is such a vibe. Um McDonald's is my ride or die forever and forever. I like a good old Big Mac and a good old 10-piece chicken nugget and some good old McDonald's fries. Can't beat it. Sweet and sour sauce? >> Mhm. >> Oh. >> I'm not I'm not a fan of McDonald's. >> Oh. Oh my god. >> They're all out now. >> They're out? What about Arby's? Because some people don't like >> at Arby's. >> Arby's is good. Arby's is good. Get the classic with the curly fries. >> Heard about the curly fries but I haven't >> They also have like mozzarella sticks. They have good stuff. >> Did you eat today? >> Did I eat? >> Yeah. >> A lot of food eat. >> Yeah. >> I eat all the time. >> What'd you eat today? >> What'd I eat? >> Yeah. >> Tacos and eggs and fruit. Blueberries and pineapple. >> Big salad. >> Cantaloupe is my favorite fruit. >> I love that you said that because so many people do not like cantaloupe as their favorite fruit. And you know what? A lot of people >> Yeah, her speech changes completely. She starts talking about her family, school work, animals, food, almost like this is an ordinary conversation. The officers follow that rhythm and the confrontation temporarily disappears. But underneath that relaxed conversation, they're still watching her. Then one observation suddenly cuts through the small talk, her pupils. >> It's good. I promise. Do you guys like poached eggs? >> No. >> I do. >> Why? I love poached eggs. >> They're runny. >> They're like hard. Like half cooked. >> No, no, no. Alex, they're not. >> eggs benedict. >> Mhm, kind of. Yes. >> Those are poached eggs. >> Okay. So then yeah. You boil water and then you crack an egg into the water. And you let it like cook in the water. So it's like a nice like soupy little eggy egg. It's really good. They're soupy. Right? It's good. And you put like a little salt and pepper. I usually put apple cider vinegar or something like in my water before I put the egg in to let it like form better. And I'm a vinegar girl, so like I love the little extra vinegar taste. Like do you guys like salt and vinegar chips? >> They're okay. >> I enjoy them. >> Oh, I love salt and vinegar chips. >> Yeah, people put vinegar on fries. >> Oh, yes. Malt vinegar on french fries? If you go to like uh Oh, [ __ ] yeah, I do that. I love vinegar. >> Your pupils are really big. Are they normally that big? >> I just have very brown eyes. >> Yeah, not like I You're not your Not your cornea. Not your iris, your pupils. Like, the black part in your eye. >> What about them? >> They're like huge. >> Really? >> normally like that? Yeah. >> Uh >> Like, they're almost as big as your iris. >> Well, I just have really dark eyes. Like I said, like my siblings are >> Like I I mean, I'm just saying they're like super big. Like, in this light. >> You want to look in my eyes? >> Yeah. >> But, my siblings have very, like, light-colored eyes and light skin and light hair. And I would just like I popped out and I was like >> [laughter] >> I just Yeah. >> Yeah, so that you know what I'm talking about. Like, so like the color part of your eye is your iris. >> Yes, I know that. >> Yeah, so the pupil >> Yes, I understand that. >> almost filling the entire portion of your your iris. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Can you take a picture? I want to see. >> Um I don't have my phone, but they're really big. >> I have very dark eyes. What do you think? Are my pupils dark or something? >> No, I just asked you if that was normal for you. Cuz normally, like, in this light they wouldn't be that that big. >> Oh my god. I'll stare at the light for you if you want. >> They're still kind of big. Just so you know. >> god. I'm >> I don't know if they could constrict a little bit. You take like down like Adderall or anything like that? Cuz sometimes that does that. >> Why are you so concerned about my pupils? >> I was just wondering cuz they're super big. That's why I was wondering. >> I have very dark eyes. >> Yeah, but it's not your It's not your iris, it's your pupil. I just want to make sure you're okay. >> Do you think I'm okay? >> I hope so. I was just Because >> I hope you're okay. >> I am. I'm fine. >> Okay. Good. Then we're good. >> All right. >> Okay. Cool. >> Just making sure. >> Oh, me too. Can someone get me a glass of water? >> I don't have any water. >> Oh, good. This is perfect. I love this party. So, what are we doing? >> We're waiting for this machine to be ready. It's got a minute and then it's going to start. >> Well, I'm not going to do that thing. You know what? >> I'm not running it. The other officer >> I'm glad that you guys are just running this machine for absolutely nothing. >> We have to run it. It's part of it. >> Well, I'm not going to do it, so. >> I mean, you don't have to do anything you want to do, but like I said, we still have to do it. You still have to run it. And he's got to explain it to you cuz I'm not going to explain it to you in the wrong way. >> Oh, okay. I would like to have somebody pick me up if that's cool. >> Not right now. >> Oh, okay. Um, so, what's your guys's favorite candy? >> Candy? >> Probably Twizzlers. >> You know what? Unforgotten hero. I appreciate that one. >> Twix. >> I [ __ ] love Twinnix. >> Think right or left. >> They're all the [ __ ] same, aren't they? Do not tell me that you think there's a difference because I swear to god if you think there's a difference, then you're wrong. >> They say it on the commercials. >> There is not a difference. >> I just believe what they tell me. >> I hope my rental car is okay. >> What do you like to do for fun? >> What? >> What do you like to do for fun? >> Volleyball. Rescue animals. >> Do you play like on a team? Yeah, in softball. Did you play in college? No. >> I played lacrosse for a year. >> All right, that's cool. Lacrosse is not big down here, in case you didn't know. You had to lie to a couple of us. >> I just want to go home. I just want to have someone pick me up, and I just want to go home. >> Well, we're working on all those things, but there's certain administrative stuff that has to happen before we can do any of that stuff. >> Yeah, okay. I get that. >> It's like for you, as well as >> [music] >> for us, we're investigating. >> Yeah. >> We're investigating a bunch of stuff. >> Yeah. >> There's administrative stuff that has to happen. >> The casual conversation now gives way to something much more revealing. An officer notices that her pupils appear unusually large, and she immediately asks whether they think she's on drugs. That question matters because the officer never actually accused her of that. She introduced the possibility herself, and shortly afterward the conversation returns to the one thing she still wants going home. >> I just want to second. Can I call my dad? I can't call my dad. Not right now. Why? >> You know what I'm doing here? >> Yeah, we still have to do all this administrative stuff first and then once we get some of that stuff done, then you'll be good to go. All right, you're good. All right. Ordering? >> 25. >> All right, so I'm going to go over a bunch of stuff, all right? And we explained to you that this is recorded. You're also being recorded on the body cam, okay? I'm going to be typing some information and I'm going to be asking you a couple questions and explaining everything as I go. I'm from somewhere in there. Oh, yeah, you got it. >> Okay. >> Can somebody get this hair out? This one. Thank you. >> Okay. I'm going to read you your advisement of advisement of scent. >> Okay. >> This is for you. All right, I'm going to put it right here. You're more than welcome to scoop forward and read that. Can you see this? >> No. >> Okay. Can you see it now? >> No. >> All right, so this is your copy. I'm going to put it right here. Okay. And you can read along. >> Okay. >> All right, you are under arrest for felony driving under the influence, felony DUI section 56-5-2945 South Carolina Code of Laws 1976 as amended or a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that you have violated this section. >> When can I call >> The officer Hold on. The officer has directed that samples be taken for alcohol and or drug testing. The samples will be taken and tested according to section 56-5-2950 and sled policies. Pursuant to section 56-5-2946, you must submit to either one or a combination of chemical tests for the purposes of determining the presence of alcohol, drugs, or a combination of alcohol and and The resistance, obstruction, or opposition to testing pursuant to section 56-5-29-46 is evidence admissible at trial. If you have an alcohol concentration of 15/100 of 1% 0.15% or more, your privilege to drive in South Carolina must be suspended for at least 1 month with the option of ending the suspension if you enroll in the ignition interlock device program. You have the right to have a qualified person of your own choosing conduct additional independent tests at your expense and the officer, upon request, shall provide you affirmative assistance. You have the right to request a contested case hearing within 30 days of the issuance of notice of suspension. If you do not request a contested hearing or if your suspension is upheld at the contested case hearing, you shall enroll in an alcohol and/or drug action program. You understand? Yes. You understand? >> I don't wish to >> Okay. Open your mouth, please. Can you open your mouth? I have to check to make >> Now the officers begin explaining the procedure instead of arguing with her. They tell her there are steps that have to happen before she can move on and she appears to understand. But understanding the process does mean she accepts it. When the formal implied consent warning begins, the situation becomes much more serious because this time her choices can have consequences beyond this room. >> So, can I get picked up by somebody here? >> Did you get bailed out of jail? >> Well, I never got read my Miranda rights before I got booked. I just wanted to say I would like to have someone pick me up because I was arrested without getting my Miranda rights read back to me. >> So, um A quick question. >> that? >> It's going to be a warrant. So, it's not like a number. So, the 00000. >> Nobody read my Miranda rights to me, so >> Case number? >> Could somebody come pick me up because nobody read my Miranda rights to me and I would like to get picked up right now. Nobody read my Miranda rights and I want to go. Nobody read my Miranda rights. Did you? Did you? >> I was not there. >> Did anybody? No, nobody did. >> On that piece of paper is the uh >> Nobody read my Miranda rights, and I would like to get picked up right now. Please. Does everybody want to say anything about that or what? Can I please get picked up now? Nobody read my Miranda rights before I was arrested, and I would like to go now, please. Hello? Anyone? Does anyone have to say anything? You? >> I wasn't there. >> Okay, so I wasn't read my Miranda rights. So, what? Now what? What happens then? I would like to know. Do you know? What happens? What happens? >> Ma'am, just sit there and relax. >> Nobody read me my Miranda rights, so I would like to have my phone. >> They were read on scene. If you don't remember >> No, nobody No, I do remember, and nobody read them to me. So, I want to go home. No, no, no. I want to go home. >> go home. >> I want to go home. >> you want to go home, but you're not going home. So, just relax. >> Nobody read me my Miranda rights. >> that a bunch. We heard you. >> Okay, so >> So, just hang tight. >> What does that mean? >> It means sit there quietly until I'm done, and we'll go from there. Okay, perfect. >> So, I'm not arrested? But I'm not arrested? >> No, you're arrested. >> But I didn't get my Miranda rights read to me. >> No, you did. >> No, I didn't. >> Okay. >> No, I didn't. >> I will read them to you again if you would like. >> No, I never got them read to me. >> Oh, okay. >> So, I'm not under arrest right now, actually, technically. So, can I please have my phone? >> No, you cannot. >> Why? Cuz I'm arrested? Well, I never got my Miranda rights read to me, so does that make sense? No, it doesn't. >> [snorts] >> So, can I please have a phone call? >> Not right now. >> Why? Why not? >> Cuz I said so. >> Oh, uh why? Huh? I'm a little confused here. I'm a little confused. Are you confused? Cuz I never got my rights read to me, so >> You've said that. >> Yeah, so can I please >> No, you cannot. >> Why? I never had my rights read to me. >> You said that. >> Yeah, so I'm going to go to the bathroom. >> No, do you need a screwdriver? Do you need to go to the bathroom? >> I would love to go to the bathroom. >> Okay, well, you can't right now cuz you're being recorded. >> Because well, guess what? Nobody read my rights to me. And now you guys are telling me that I can't call someone even though nobody's read my rights to me? >> like me to explain this to you? Or are you going to just keep talking? >> You know what? I would really enjoy if I could just go home and figure this out and please have my boyfriend pick me up, and I didn't do anything. I swear, but You want to go? >> The conflict changes direction again. Now she's no longer focused only on the phone, she starts insisting that her Miranda rights were never read. She treats that as a reason she should be able to leave. The officers try to correct her, but repeating the same claim only makes the conversation more circular. And after that, the footage becomes almost eerily quiet. >> [snorts] >> Mhm. >> So, 02 The whole case number is 23. >> All right. >> Dash 0257. >> 0257. >> Mhm. And you just have >> My license is suspended and I have no license here. >> Yeah. All right, good. >> Mhm. >> We're almost done. Yeah. Minute and a half. >> And then what? >> After the long stretch of silence, the same argument returns. She wants to go home and the officers remind her that she's under arrest for DUI. But now there's an important detail she says nobody properly tested her while the officers point out that she refused. That creates a contradiction at the center of the entire situation. And then they finally explain what the breath test can actually mean for her. >> So, I can have someone pick me up? >> No. >> No? >> No. >> Why? >> Cuz you're under arrest. >> But nobody did anything to me. >> Nobody has to. >> Why? >> Because you're under arrest. >> For what? >> For DUI. >> How? Nobody checked my anything. Nobody's done a all the sobriety tests. Nobody's done anything. >> You refused. >> Okay. And? >> And? >> So? Now I can't be charged for it. >> Really? >> Take my blood. >> I'm going to. >> I want to call my counsel. >> All right. So, Jamie, let me explain this to you. What this is doing is getting ready for a breath sample from you. I cannot force you to provide a breath sample, but if you refuse, okay, it will be used against you in the court of law. So, when this goes to court, that will be used against you. It's not going to be used against you as >> someone before I do this. >> Also, this is going to provide you a chance to show yourself, us, whoever, if you feel that you're not impaired, this is your chance to scientifically prove that you're not. Just keep that in >> get to go home? >> No. >> Then I want to call someone. >> You call someone when you have your jail I want to call someone right now. We're just focusing on this. >> I want to call someone right now. >> You cannot call someone right now. >> Why? >> Cuz we're in the middle of doing something. >> I would like to call someone right now. >> I know you would like to, but it's not going to happen. I'm not doing anything >> I'm not doing anything until I talk to someone. >> Okay. >> [snorts] >> I'm just keep that Keep mind. If you refuse, it's which is read in the consent, it's going to go against you in the court of law. Okay? Just keep that in mind. So, this this is your chance. If you don't do this, it's a missed opportunity. So, once we leave, you can't say, "Oh, you know what? I want >> this, and then it proves that I'm not like intoxicated, and I still can't go home, then >> Yeah, but it will help you it will help you in court. >> Why am I going to do it? I'm still not going to go home. >> If you do not I'm not going to do it. >> I would like to talk to someone first. >> is going to be suspended as well, just so you know. >> to someone. >> It's for refusing as well. >> talk to someone? >> Are you going to keep cutting me off? >> No. >> You going to keep cutting me off? >> No. >> Okay. So, with the refusal, also your license will be suspended. Which has been explained to you in your rights. I just want to make sure you're aware of all this before >> Correct. >> Cuz once once you're done, you're done, and we walk out of the room. Okay? Are you willing to provide a breath sample? >> No. >> No? You're sure? >> Yes. >> Your last chance. >> No. >> You want to blow in this? Provide a breath sample? >> to a lawyer before I do anything. >> Okay, so you do not want to give me a breath sample? >> Can I talk to a lawyer first? >> Not right now. >> Why? >> Do you want to provide a breath sample? >> I would like to talk to a lawyer before >> Okay. I'm going to take that as a refusal. >> Well, it's not a refusal. It's actually me asking if I could talk to someone before I can talk. >> This is your last chance. Would you like to provide a breath sample? Yes or no? >> I would like to talk to someone before >> Okay. That's refusing. >> How is that refusing? >> you. >> I'm asking you if I can talk to someone before >> No, you cannot. >> Okay. >> Would you like to provide a breath sample? >> I would like to talk to >> You are not going to talk to anybody. >> Then, no. >> Okay. That's refusing. >> I really have to use the bathroom. >> As soon as this prints out, I'm going to turn this off and you go to the bathroom. >> It's going to happen soon. Like I'm almost there. I have my period right now. >> This is where everything finally comes together. She's told the breath test could give her chance to prove she wasn't impaired. The officer gives her multiple opportunities to take it and explains exactly what refusing could mean, but she keeps asking to speak with someone first. Eventually, she refuses the test and that refusal becomes part of the case against her. After spending the entire night arguing for a way out, she ends up making one decision that she can take back. What do you see? Look closely at his story. What do you think really happened? Was it truly an accident or is he leaving something out? Drop your theory in the comments. And if you want more interrogation breakdowns, hidden details, and psychological analysis, like the video and subscribe to Verdict Interrogation for more.