100% the truth. That that is that's all I'm asking. >> All right. The way he was coming at me was just like I was a target guy. >> No. No. >> But Coutur said you and I were just the only one in the house when we when we weren't just the only girls in the house. She was way in Orlando. Like I see it's going to be a whole bunch of stuff going on. Well, see what what happens a lot of times when when you start trying to cover stuff up and trying to hide stuff, that just makes the situation 10 times worse than just going, "Hey, dude, this is what I saw happen. You know, I have I have no involvement or I have this involvement." Again, we just want to know the truth. Could an incident occurred? Somebody was shot. >> I'm not crying because I know I was guilty or something. >> No, I cry because I never been in this situation. Like, [snorts] >> you feel me? I just >> May 24th, 2023. Jacksonville, Florida. A 19-year-old girl is dying in the backseat of a stranger's car, bullet wound to her stomach. Just hours earlier, she was laughing recording Tik Toks and passing a gun around a bathroom. Now she's dead, and detectives are trying to piece together what happened, but the people who were there on telling the same story. So, we're obviously here to talk about whatever happened tonight. Okay. Before I start asking you something, I want to make sure I have preliminary information like your name, your address, stuff like that. I just want to make sure I got that all all squared away. >> What's your first name? >> Who are you? >> Uh, middle and last, >> Jenna. >> Okay. Okay. So I I guess start me from the top of what happened. How how did we end up how did we end up here? >> From the uh hospital. >> H >> from the hospital. >> Okay. Well, what what got you to the hospital? >> Me and TJ Antonio Singleton. We took her to the hospital. in his car. >> Is that the camera? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, go ahead. >> We took her to the hospital first. We lied and said that we just picked her up cuz we didn't want to get involved. >> I told him I was scared. I ain't never been in a situation like this. >> Mhm. >> So, we just said that. But when the other police officer came to the car, he just like he yell at me, but he was just all like, "It's better to tell the truth." And then the other police officer said, "You only 19, you got 20. You got to have a life ahead against you." So I was just telling him straight up, I reason why I lied cuz I never been in this type of situation. >> Well, what they what they said is the absolute truth. So you can take something where you're you're not involved. You may have seen something. You may have seen something happen, but you're not directly involved. And if you say, "Hey, this is what I saw." Then that then that's that's all we want to know is what you saw. That doesn't mean you're going to get in trouble. But when you start, "Hey, this is what we're going to say." That's when stuff starts getting cloudy. And that's when you start hemming yourself up. So the only thing that I ask for is >> because stuff like this, like I don't want to be dealing stuff like this just by trying to help somebody. >> Mariah, do this. Okay. Take a deep breath. [snorts] Okay. Okay. Relax. Right. I'm relaxed with you. >> Okay. And and start us from the beginning from your life and how we get to this point. Okay. That's what the title of can I ask you. Okay. >> Is she dead? [snorts] >> She is dead. All right. So, the best thing to do as he was saying is to give us the truth from point A to point B and we'll get through this together. Okay. That's all he's asking. All right. What what happened when your first initial reaction with the police? Um but again that's a high stressful situation for for all that's involved. So again it happens. All right. But we're here now. Um >> okay we understand that. Okay. But now is your time to provide us exactly what happened and we go from there. Okay. >> Like exactly. I got she's your friend. [snorts] I mean I couture this my first time around her. Like I don't even know her. >> It's time to provide us what happened in her family. Okay. She she deserves it as if anyone at your age would deserve it. Okay. >> I saw the officer like if I didn't care talking about why if I didn't want to be involved while coming. It's like my heart too. >> But we're pass I wouldn't never came. I would have been guilty of hiding and not coming. >> 100%. But like my partner said we're here. [snorts] Our job. >> This is Jenna interrogation. Detectives are trying to establish what really happened when 19-year-old Anna Awok was shot and who was holding the gun when everything went. >> Our job is to find the answers. And she said, "Yeah, she's your age. You know, she's young. You're upset about it." Our job is to provide the answers to her family. >> Girl, bro, having a girl like over like, >> "Okay, start from there. Start from what happened. What time you got over there?" >> Like earlier that day with Coutur, I was never supposed to even go there. I was supposed to go home. [snorts] >> What was supposed to happen and what happened are two different things. Okay. [clears throat] So, you were there. Okay. So, what time did you get there? >> Like early like around 11:00. >> Okay. And that was the day. >> Yeah. Like early. [snorts] >> 11. We're talking about morning. Morning. Early, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Who are you with? Well, I guess how did you get there with >> Okay. [snorts] And in whose vehicle? >> We go in and Uber. Me and was never at the apartment. The girl >> The girl that's there [clears throat] um she was there at the apartment by herself with other people. I was home at 8 86 81 Ed Road, my mom house. [snorts] Ki came to pick me up and we went to um some boys house and we spent the night there. Then that morning woke up from the boy's house and then we went there. She was already there. I had just got there with KT. >> Okay. You're saying um Annayia was already there? >> Yes. >> Okay. And when you So when you say there you enter you entered the apartment, right? >> Yes. >> And she's there and she's there alone or is there other people in there with her? It was like two people in there. >> Two males or females? >> Two males. >> Two males. Okay. >> Did you recognize him at all? >> Him? >> Do you recognize the males that were there? >> Um, one of the males that was at the scene tonight. He was there. He the one that opened up the door. >> Was it TJ? TJ was the one open the door? >> No. It was this black dude. Um, I call him Jamaican, but the other people in the apartment don't know his name. I I got him on Facebook, but he grown. And the boy that na was messing with. Um, she was in the room with him. That's I guess who she was talking to. >> So, it was just a Nia uh Jamaican and then an unknown Oh, you said it was a black dude. Yes, it was the light-skinned dude and [snorts] then the black dude. >> So light-kinned dudes with Anna. [clears throat] >> Yes, that's the one who she was messing with. [snorts] >> Those two same dudes was at the at the scene there. >> So you got there with Coutura. You go in, it's it's um Annayia is in a room with light-skinned dude and then the other the other dude Jamaican. I'll call him Jamaican cuz he black, but he really Haitian. >> Haitian. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um [snorts] >> I guess what's the atmosphere? What's going on? >> It's early. They sleep. >> Okay. >> This the I'm starting. >> Yeah. No, no, that's good. That's what I want. >> Um it's early. So KT Coutur, she went in the kitchen, made her some breakfast, and I just laid in the living room. >> So y'all watching TV or smoking, drinking? What's going on? >> But early that morning? Mhm. >> Everybody just chilling. It's early. She made us some breakfast. I'm in the living room on my phone. >> All right. >> Chilling. >> So, no drugs involved. >> And if again, we're not the drug police. But I'm just asking we have to establish >> I understand >> exactly what's going on. >> Like people are smoking weed. So that's that's that's not what we're hearing. That's right. >> I know. >> Um >> like I said, it's early. Everybody's chilling. We done went to sleep all the way up like to 1. Got back up at 1. Okay. >> And >> okay. >> Um me, KT, and like we really didn't do nothing all day. We Yeah, we didn't do nothing. Um we were just in the house. It was raining. Like we were just in the house walking back and forth from Walmart and stuff, getting groceries and stuff, chilling. And then um a couple people left and the only person that was there was a big fat black dude. I don't know who he is. I never seen him in the apartment before. I guess that's one of his friends, one of their friends. And then like I said, the man that I called Jamaican, his black self and was light-skinned boy who was messing with who was, you know, not just not talking about early this morning. Who was, you feel me? This is night time. Mhm. >> So, it's night time now. So, it's it's you, Anniah, KT. >> KT is not there. >> KT left? >> Yeah, she left. >> Do you know about what time she left? >> Like 9. >> 9. >> But she was in the apartment though. >> Um before she left. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. When we went to Walmart and stuff. >> She was in Okay. Did she >> When we went to Walmart, I had met I had my other friend. At this point, instigators are still building the timeline. The account describes a quiet day at the apartment with people coming and going, but the detective needs specifics. Who was present when each person arrived or left and whether those details match other statements. That groundwork matters before the shooting can be constructed. >> So, we're back at night time now, and you said probably like 9:00. So, KT's gone. Yeah, >> she definitely said she was going to Orlando. >> Okay. That's the females. Yeah. >> But then there's other males inside the apartment. >> You said fat boy. >> Three males. >> Okay. >> Have you seen these males before? >> Just the only two of them. Like I said, I don't know the other fat boy. >> What do they What do they know you as? >> Molly. >> Molly. Okay. So, we got fat boy, light-skinned, and Jamaican. >> Yeah, I just call him Jamaican, but I don't know his name, but I have >> That's what you identified him as. >> Yeah, I have him on Facebook >> to show you the >> We get his Facebook situation. >> Do you know by heart? >> No, but if I if you if I let you get on my phone, I will show you. >> All right, that's fine. Light skin, too. You know him? Yeah. He's young cap. Older cap. >> Yeah, he's older than me. >> Dreads. No dreads. Low cut. >> Curly. >> Curly hair. >> Curly. Like not like a Mexican, but I refer. >> Is he mixed race? You think? >> Yeah. >> You have a number for him? >> No. Which apartment was it? >> The number. >> The number of the door. >> Mhm. >> I don't know. >> Could you walk me? Um, do you know what building it is? >> Yes. Like when you come into Kennletown Novia, you come [snorts] in, you make that first right. >> Mhm. >> And you go down. As you going down right here, you you This building right here. >> Mhm. >> All this the building. and you turn. When you turn, make a um making sure I know my left or right. When you turn, you make a right and then you'll be right here in front of P. Once you go upstairs, you'll hit that first door. Like, hey, miss, you got to walk past our door to go to other people doors and go way upstairs. You feel me? So, soon as you come on the second floor, it's that first door >> right there on the right or left. You go right up the stairs. You got right. >> Okay. So, this one you walk up the stairs and the door is literally right there. >> Yes. It's going to be like right here. >> Okay. >> There's no other door by it cuz it's right here on the corner by the staircase. >> But if you go by other people doors, it's going to be 1 2 3, >> you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. >> The apartment right there by the staircase. So, it's going to be no other really neighbor, but neighbor like way like right there >> if [snorts] you know how the buildings. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, >> I just want to make sure like I'm picturing in my head and when I went went there, I want to make sure I got the right apartment here. Um, but you don't remember the numbers on it. >> No. >> Okay. >> I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure. >> Whose apartment is it? >> Everybody tell the truth. Tell the truth. Um, people do apartments through CPN. It could be anybody apartment. >> They do it through what? CPN. >> What's that? >> Like like it don't really have to be your apartment. Like you would just give somebody like a lot of money and they just go out and what fake social security, fake whatever to get somebody an apartment >> really like under like a completely false name and all that or is it more like somebody rents it and then just like let somebody else move in and take over the payments? >> Yeah, like that. in this generation is called CPN. >> Really? CPN's. >> Mhm. >> I never heard about that. Um, so I guess who's who's uh I guess renting this through CPN. Again, I'm that's not anything I'm look [snorts] I'm looking after what happened to Annayia tonight. If you say, "Hey, this person's renting this with you, whatever." I'm not worried about that. um KT and other people that people >> but you don't know who would actually say they own the apartment. >> Yeah. Like you know like Yeah. I want to say who own it cuz like like I said anybody can't own it. You feel me? >> Mhm. >> Anybody can't own it. Anybody can't put pay on pay on it. >> Okay. So is it like a monthto-month thing so you can move out? Somebody move in right right behind you. >> Yeah. If they if they money right. >> Okay. Um Okay. So take me back to the apartment then. It's it's um >> light scan dude. >> Mhm. >> I got everybody. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um take me through the rest of the night. After we came from um Walmart and stuff, I cooked nachos. I fed everybody. Um before KT left, she had got a do say bott one little shot and just like she b come here to drink with us and chill with us. So we ain't really get you know we want everybody well the girls we want everybody you know it's just the f was to for us. So we just like damn that's how we talked though like call my phone like damn ho you ain't you ain't you ain't you about what you about if you ain't going to come chill have girls night with us you but she wanted to be in Orlando or whatever so you feel me? I ain't drunk like trying to think that nobody want drunk. It can't we couldn't even get that get there until that happened. >> Mhm. >> So ain't nobody intoxicating. Uh, I'm at Excuse me. >> You good? You good for way worse. >> I'm so sorry. Know him. I still fed him though. But they was in the kitchen and >> making what? >> Tik Toks. >> Okay. We was about to make him with Tik Toks. All us was playing with guns. You know them ain't nothing to play with. You know, we laughing and jump. You know, we don't hold each one of us don't hold the gun or whatever. And then the boy Jamaican that I call after I got done holding the gun or whatever, he was basically trying to say like like let me show you how to hold it or whatever. He took the gun and I guess he was trying to do something on the clip thing that I was watching. He was holding it. He was something on the like safety. I guess it could turn on safety or off or not or whatever. He was trying to show me, but I was like, he basically was showing me, but I was watching him >> do it on the gun. It was not pointed no way. Now you was standing the bathroom alone. So when you when you go in there by yourself, like go back to the apartment after you talk to me, you going to be going to the bath to the um room by the kitchen. Not the room. Not the other room. We in this We in the other room >> by the kitchen. >> Yeah. But this room have a bathroom inside of it. >> It's the master bedroom. >> Yeah. And it's a closet. Like it's long. So it's like you in the room, but the bathroom right here, but the bathroom long. Then it's a bad deep cloth. >> She places several people inside a small bathroom when the gun discharged. She says she did not see anyone pull the trigger and denies pulling it herself. That is her count, not a complete explanation. Investigators still need to establish where everyone stood, who handled the weapon, and what [clears throat] each person >> bathroom then it's a fat deep closet. >> You get to the closet through the bathroom. >> Yes. Like it's a walk-in closet. So, um sink right here. [snorts] And the uh see-through shower. It's a glass shower. Walk-in shower. And the toilet right here, the closet right here. Um my friend K standing right here. um by the sink in the mirror and me and the black [ __ ] we standing right here and I just standing right here and so that's why I said he weren't pointing in it nowhere. It was just like he was holding it and I'm like looking try to see where he going and then it's just like I don't know you know it went off like you feel me? I ain't see nobody pull no trigger you feel me? I didn't pull no trigger. It's just like I don't know the gun went off. You just heard a pop. Once you heard it, you feel me? My everybody just like my air air is blew in the bathroom. >> Yeah. It usually happens like in a small room but like that. >> Yeah. So, you know, it's closed so everybody just like you know it got like for a couple minutes like you know like if you hear a gun sound like it just like everybody in the room just got quiet like like if you was to get in the wreck or whatever >> cuz your brain trying to process what's going on. >> Yeah. like you know we just laughing and kicking and something just you feel that's like somebody you laughing somebody just hit you in your face and you just like you know trying to figure out what's going on. So what happened like if I just started moving and I'm trying to figure out what's going on you feel me? But then when I looked at night, I ain't see no no blood. I just heard ah ah. So then everybody [snorts] run out the bathroom and she was like ah ah and stuff. But I started seeing blood like you feel me? U on the floor for real. It got serious. So everybody just like moved around apartment. So I'm like, "Y'all can't leave her. Like y'all can't leave her. Y'all can't leave her. Y'all can't leave her." So [ __ ] him he just not walking in. He was not even on scene. >> TJ >> TJ he was not on scene at all. He just not walked in. He walked in. Everybody came to him. Bro they tripping [ __ ] Bro they tripping. Everybody tripping in this [ __ ] He was all like, "Bro, I don't got nothing to do with it." So I told TJ like, "Bro, what you going to do? Leave the girl here like you feel me?" like, "Bro, I don't want nothing to do with it, bro. What y'all got going on?" I just walked in this vit. You feel me? He trying to walk out like, "Bro, what y'all going to do? Leave a girl here?" Like, "Bro, I got to take this girl to the hospital, bro. I can't leave her here." She not I can't, you feel me? Grab her like I can tell when somebody body off. My mom always say somebody body always, you know? >> Mhm. [snorts] >> Off everything get heavy. You feel me? So, I didn't want to touch her. So, I made them. They well they put her in the car back of the car just somebody robbed me. Mighty rob me. I was if you feel me I was just go straight home. I said ify on it but I just hopped in the car cuz the way how she was yelling. So we got in the car and try to look at the closest hospital and jump. He he panicking cuz he got somebody in his car you feel me? That he don't even know. He never seen her and I really even know her. You feel me? This KT friend. I'm just being a mutual friend, chilling with her, not giving her no bad vibe, just chilling, having the girls night. So, [snorts] I'm just in the back like, you feel me? We looked up the closest hospital. Mario on Sh, you feel me? Memorial over here. And then I was just in the back seat with my flashlight. Don't stay up, bro. What's your name? What's your name? Say my name. What's your name? And she just stayed up the whole time. So >> when the police got behind us like he he was like we was already at the hospital but we had to you know ride down the street pull in the jump. We just pulled right over cuz we knew who we had in the car. >> So he just like you know hopped out his vehicle like what's going on straight up told him like got somebody she shot. >> We found her walking down. You feel me? waited this what happened. Oh y'all got to wait here to question y'all d here. >> Okay. Well, first and foremost, I want to say thank you for like being forthcoming. It's it's a lot of a lot of questions um I would have had, but you gave me the answers to. And not only do I appreciate that, but the family's going to appreciate that. Does that make sense? Sir, >> um I I'm I'm going to essentially tell the story as you told me. If I'm wrong in any way, shape, or form, you stop me and you correct me. Okay? So, when I when I leave from this room, I want to make sure I'm 100% on board with you as to what happened tonight. [snorts] You go over there. >> And like like I said, if I didn't care, I would have got in that car. >> Well, you're right. >> Apparently, the vacation [ __ ] he didn't care. Feel me? You trying to choose us how to hold the gun, but you ain't killing when she when it when it went out and baby fell on the floor. You ain't killing. >> Whose gun was it? [snorts] >> I don't know. Like that just be have a gun sitting around. I can't pin that gun on nobody. But >> the detective shifts from the shooting itself to ownership of the guns. She says she cannot identify who owned the weapon and mentions another gun in the apartment. These details may sound secondary, but establishing which firearm was present and who had access to it helps investig. >> How many how many guns were floating around? >> It was the black gun that was playing with it. >> So it was just one gun. >> Yeah. And um another gold gun. >> A gold gun. >> Some other gold gun that be around them. >> Like is it like a like a pistol like mine? Is it long? >> No, I think it's a RP. I don't really know that gun like names of it, you know? I don't own no gun myself. So I can't just straight up and say, >> "Oh, that's that such a [ __ ] gun." I just know it's a gun. You feel me? I ain't see it. I see it laying on laying around know why while we was getting baby in the car, you know. I understand like I said apparently the black [ __ ] ain't care who was trying to show us something on the gun. Apparently he ain't care. >> So did they did they like soon as it soon as it the shots go off did they just they just run out the house? No, I can't say. Um, they put her in the car and >> they help you put in the car. >> I touch her. >> No, I said who who put in like >> um I'm guess it's big TJ and um or well I when they put her when she was in the car I was upstairs looking for my phone. So when I came down of >> course the boys was like out there outside the car. So, I'm guessing like she ain't get down there by herself. >> All the boys [clears throat] outside. So, y'all had to put her in the car. >> Um, where the gun was put afterwards. >> Like I said, that action [ __ ] apparently ain't care cuz he grabbed it. And I see him after that after he grabbed the gun. [snorts] So you you think he took it with him? >> Unless y'all check apartments, man. Apartment I have a gun. >> Okay. All right. Um hang tight for me for a little bit. We We got a lot of people to talk to. Do you need any water or anything? [snorts] >> Let me let you call your mom. I got some questions. You said you don't How many times have you been to this location? And be honest with me. >> Several times. >> Several times. All right. Every time you go over there, is it the same people over there? >> No. >> Okay. >> Every people though. >> The guys. Like, who's consistently over there? >> The [snorts] lightkinned [ __ ] in the uh the [ __ ] who was trying to show us the thing. >> Okay. So, you've been over there several times. Like you just what what what do they call him? Everybody call him Jamaican. Seriously like this. >> No, they um when they >> so light-skinned urban guy, [clears throat] >> I don't know where the [ __ ] he came from. He was just like there. >> Who who called T? How did TJ know to come around there? >> He just popped up. >> He just popped up at the right time. >> Yeah. Like honestly, cuz like everybody's acting slow as [ __ ] >> How did he know to come around there though? Like is that something he always do? He just pop up or he just hangs around there. He knows to hang around there. How did he know to come to that location? >> Who called him? >> Nobody called him. He just came in the door. like all that's coming in. He came through like what [ __ ] you know that's why I said he didn't even want to get involved like >> all right >> but he had heart though but all right we going to take us to the hospital. >> Mhm. Okay. So you saying you're you're sitting around and then all of a sudden you guys are playing with the gun. All right. Where was the gun located when like what did you guys grab the gun and who grabbed the gun to put it like to start making Tik Tok videos? Who grabbed the gun? Um, all of us. >> No. All y'all. So, all y'all This is a gun. Did all y'all have hands on it or who picked the gun up and say, "Okay, let's go to the bathroom and make a TikTok video." >> No, the gun. It's like a little shelf right there in the bathroom. Gun was sitting right there. >> It was just already sitting there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Who was in the bathroom prior to Who's in that room prior to that? Who occupied that bedroom? >> Who occupied it? But So y'all y'all knew the gun was in there or the how' the gun get inside the bathroom? That's what I'm trying to figure out. >> It been sitting in the bathroom >> from since you been over there. >> Yeah. Like it just like Yeah. It been over there. It been in the house. >> It been in the house. >> Yes. All right. >> Well, it been in the room. When I enter that room, I don't go in that room. I go in the other room. >> Okay. that don't have the bathroom anymore. >> So, did y'all say, "Ooh, there's a gun right there." Or say, "Okay, let's get this gun." Or, "Oh, there's a gun." Or how did how did the gun come into play? Why why did the gun come into play? >> Cuz from my like from true like answer from me. >> I always want the truth. That's all I'm asking for. >> Cuz in this generation like kids our age, we think it's cool. Like we don't think it's cool to kill people. We think it's cool like the way how the gun shape. >> Okay. >> The body. >> Who whose idea was it? If y'all are doing the Tik Toks, I think it's one of my partners getting to like whose idea was it to like, yo, there's a gun right there. Let's make some Tik Toks with guns. >> No, we ain't just say it's a gun right there. Let's make some lot me out of PL. We be acting brand new. And all us just in the bathroom dancing. Grab the gun. >> So the music is playing loud throughout the house, right? >> No, we on the phone. >> Y'all on the phone. Okay. >> And [clears throat] Jamaican just comes back there and say, "What y'all doing? Y'all don't even be playing with guns." >> Mhm. >> Or did y'all say, "Show me how to use a gun." Or what? What was >> he never said, "Show me how to use a gun." Cuz everybody don't already hold it. But he just like, you know, stop playing. Like like I said, you caught that last part. >> Let me ask you this. >> What I said to him was >> after I got done holding the gun, he hold the gun. It was just like this how you really hold a gun. >> And once he flipped whatever, I guess the safety switch, it went off. >> Okay. >> You didn't catch that last part, but I told him. >> I heard everything. >> Oh, [clears throat] I'm just >> I'm I'm got I got questions. All right. Um that's I heard everything you said. He's showing her how he's maneuvering the gun and they flipped the switch and it went off or whatever. Um, so I don't [snorts] The trigger had to be pulled for the gun to go off. All right. >> Right. >> Okay. >> So, did you see him pull the trigger while he was doing this? >> Like, no. Like >> when he was What did you see >> when he was holding it? I was paying attention to the little the little black thing that clicks like that be moving back and >> maybe the safety mechanism the safety mechanism probably >> I'm guessing. Yeah. >> Was it on the side or was it like on the back like when you talking about the thing that flipped? Would it be right here? >> No, that's called a switch. I know that's called a switch that be back there. >> Uh well, yeah, it could be a switch, but it's also different guns have different mechanisms. So, I'm trying to I'm trying to picture what type of gun. >> This is a a long gun. This not no handgun. >> So, this is this is a rifle. So, the long one >> RP RP is >> an AR. >> It's a AR. >> Yeah, RP. >> So, you got like the most common ones like an AR-15. Um, you have like Draco. Is it Is it all black? >> Okay. >> So, it wasn't a small hand, man. It's a long Okay. That's why we >> The conversation turns to why a gun was being handled at all. She describes young people treating its appearance as impressive. While the detective presses whose idea it was to make Tik Tok videos, the important point is not social media alone. It is how that activity led to >> this gun >> shouldn't be playing with it. And when he switched the the uh thing, I'm watching him like I'm not looking at no, you feel me? No trigger, nothing. I'm watching him try to tell me like try to tell us like what he trying to switch on. But when he flint that bit, it just went boom. >> All right, so let me ask you this. Okay, you've been around there several times. Have you seen this gun before? >> Like three times cuz >> three times. Okay, that's a good number. That's >> You feel me? Cuz like they don't be on no cool jump. Like it was like females in here put that [ __ ] up. >> Okay. You know, >> every Have you guys made Tik Tok videos with guns before? >> No, not no not [clears throat] >> made a Tik Tok with a gun before. >> Me personally, not not in that apartment, but if I was like around other mutual people on some cool junk, I'll do it not post. >> So, this is something you guys normally would or you would normally do as well. You'll post with a gun. >> I can't speak with nobody else. I wouldn't post with no gun, but like I wouldn't post with no gun, but I hope like if it's somebody around, I'll hold it. Look at it. >> Okay. >> But I learned my lesson not to post no gun cuz my mama like she friends with me on internet. That's not cute. The police watching, you feel me? That's not cute on the internet. Like all that. >> All right. So dur during this investigation, I am Am I going to find pictures of you holding a gun? You can't get You're not Have you ever been arrested before? >> Who? Me? Yes, I've been arrested before. >> For what? >> Um >> like pett yourself. >> I got an artication and um like I did to the girl car in her neighbor. >> Okay. So misdemeanor. Yeah, I could. Yeah. >> Okay. So, legally, you can still have a gun, but during all this, am I going to find pictures of you with guns? You can't get in trouble for it. >> Like on my page or something? >> Anywhere. Anywhere. If someone says, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, look, she's got a gun here. This is from 2 months ago." Whatever the case may be. >> Like, no. Cuz I don't have none of that stuff on my >> Okay. Okay. Unless you go to like photos in my phone that's like in in in totality you're going to have some type of gun. You're going to have a picture with a gun somewhere in your life. >> No, I nothing nothing in my phone really. Really? Nothing >> really? Yes. So, I guess it's a yes or no. Have you do you have any pictures or have you ever taken any pictures with a gun? >> Like before in my life? Yes. But it's not >> that he's going to find. That's all he's asking. >> Yeah. Like, no, it's nothing in my my phone and stuff like that and [ __ ] >> All right. >> Who Who was recording the Tik Tok? So, who was recording during all this? >> Um, Nia. >> Nia was >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, >> first she set the phone up, then she picked the phone up. >> So, when Jamaican comes in and grabs the gun and say, "Y'all not supposed to be our what y'all doing? This I'm I'm going to show you how to use it." Um, >> he never said, "Let me show you how to use it." He just said, "Let me show you something." >> Or, "Let me show you something." I'm just speaking in in general. >> Okay. Where are you located at? >> Me? >> Yeah. >> I'm like, "Where are in the circle?" >> Okay. >> Just about the shot thing >> and just him like behind him looking like >> Okay. >> Like he right here like we about the same height. So he's right here. >> So he he took the gun. You had the gun. He took it from you and that's when he said, "Let me show you something." >> Yeah. Like this how you like he couldn't even show me cuz like it happened so quick. But I was looking at the little switch thing. I'm thinking he trying to put on safety or whatever. I'm looking at it hard. Like not even looking, >> you know, the way how he I'm looking at the little safety thing trying to see what he doing. And it just mean by night standing right there and the way how he standing right here and the way how the gun is is, you feel me? long hold it like it's not he not pointing it at no nothing like that. He just like basically trying to show us like what he trying to do on the gun and he wasn't holding it. It was like really sitting low. >> So when it sit low and it just pop you know this but you feel me? I ain't pay her like you feel me? I'm looking like that like everybody moving. But when I paid her so much, she she um like fell down to the floor and then that's when I seen [ __ ] got serious cuz blood flood just started. >> Okay. Does Okay. So this let's this how would you describe Jamaican besides just being black dark skin? Like how would you describe him? Start from the head. What what kind of hair? >> A low low. >> So a low cut like mine. >> Number one. Number one, >> curly. A little bit thick and curly. Yeah. Like [snorts] more hair than nappy hair. >> Okay. So, he said you said he's your height about. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> What's that? How tall are you? >> How tall are you? >> I don't know. I just know I'm short. Like, four. >> Okay. So, short guy. >> Yeah. I just know I'm short. >> Is he slim? Is he stocky? Is he slim? >> Okay. Does he have tattoos or bows or anything in his tattoos right here? But I don't be looking at him like you know they old as [ __ ] >> How how long have you known him? >> Not long. I just know him like at apartment I speak you know by like I don't [clears throat] know him know him like >> through other people like he just be at the apartment. Who who actually says okay this who has the key or who who has the apartment you I understand or I I understand let me finish listen let me finish let me finish okay I understand the parameters of you saying that you don't want to get involved or you know >> I I know I have to get involved cuz now is it being a crime scene but I'm just saying y'all coming at me at the police car saying oh this apartment if it's KT I mean, >> what sense that make about >> we we here asking questions. >> I know to hell. I'm not even get happy like mad or nothing. It's just common sense though. Like police talking about oh that that's KT apartment. Okay. If it's couture apartment, who you think got kid? Like since she said it's her apartment. >> Well, what what my partner saying is before we get called out to these these incidents, you have a whole the people on scene say, "Hey, it's it's their apartment. it's their apartment and then the patrol officers do their investigation. Hey, I think it's that that person's apartment or it could be that person's apartment. There's no name on it. Whatever the case may be and then we get called and it's hey, it's this person or this person this person. We have to sort through all that, >> right? >> So, I say people do CPN like >> Oh, I get that. I get that 100%. Well, what my partner's driving at is when when you go to this when you go to this department, you said you've been there three times, maybe more three times. Who is always there? who you got to have whenever I go to somebody's house, if I go to like a house party, whatever the case may be, and there's a whole bunch of people there, you can feel the air. Okay, this is their house. You can just see how people like the the items in the apartment. >> Like I said, that like the black [ __ ] I guess he just moved in or whatever. >> Jamaican. >> Yeah. Like cuz he just now he been here constantly. >> Who who who does Jamaican mess with? What chick he talk to? >> Nobody over there though. Nobody was not for his ugly self. Like nobody was over. Like we young. You got to understand like he's grown ass man. Like even though I talked to somebody grown, but I'm just saying nobody was over there for him. Like it was really supposed to be a all girls night. >> What kind of car does he drive? >> He don't have no car. I don't >> How How is this supposed to be an all girls night? But y'all have to go to a guy's apartment to have this girls night. Like >> because they let us be though. They barely be there. So, it's just like a open apartment and we just >> Okay. >> Okay. Why not? >> If they're not there, who has the key to get in? >> When I tell you that they'll just stay unlocked. Like, I can't tell you who have the key. Like, if I did, I would have told you. >> Do you I I never had no no key physically unlocking that bit. So, it's just a regular >> Are you afraid of >> No. The detective asks for names, but the people she describes are mostly known by nicknames. She explains that she never learned one man's real name and continued using the label she knew. That makes identification harder, so investigators need specific descriptions and confirmation rather than relying on a nickname alone. >> No, but [ __ ] >> How that go with black people giving out a little bit too much information? >> Yeah. See, that's the problem. All right. So we we can't have that in this situation. All right. >> Right. That's why I think you're smart and I'm just going to just tell y'all everything. >> Of course. >> So that's think of the apartment as a spot. >> No, but [ __ ] how that go with black people giving out a little bit too much information. >> Yeah. See, that's the problem. All right. So we we can't have that in this situation. All right. >> Right. That's why I think you're smart and I'm just going to just tell y'all everything. >> Of course. So that's think of the apartment as the spot. >> I know it's a spot. I [clears throat] just need to know I need names. You know what I'm saying? Like we need names of these guys and you know Fat Boy and Jamaican. I mean that that's that's something but that's not what I feel like you may know. >> I don't know them for real. I just know them like you feel me? If I come in you feel me? I want to call him Jamaican. He say he Haitian, but he ain't never say, "Oh, my real name is feel me." He never come out to me and say, "My real name is such and such." So I just call him Jamaican. He always like, "I'm not Jamaican. I'm Haitian." Still call him Jamaican cuz he black. >> How long? >> He just beat her. Like feel me? Like I'm not friendly. Like he just beat her. I speak, we vibe, smoke, whatever. Okay. So, and again, I want to get back to the bathroom situation, right? So, all three of y'all say we going to go make it like y'all leave from the kitchen area or the hangout area, right? And go to the bathroom, right? Okay. So, on this little section of the bathroom, there's a firearm or the the long gun. Is it just sitting on the the on the counter? Right. Am I >> It's sitting on the little stuff or towels and stuff. >> Okay. So, it's it's just sitting there. like it was >> I guess that's basically put up but it's out in the open. >> It's it's visible. So you guys see the gun. Who is the first one to say, "Oh [ __ ] there's a gun. I'mma pick it up." >> Who does that? Or not necessarily those right, but who goes to the gun first? >> Um pass that bit around so much. I can't even know who picked up it first. >> Okay. So you guys, how many how long y'all making the video before a Jamaican comes in and say, "I'mma show you how to use this gun." >> Um, not long. Like I said, we couldn't even do the Tik Tok video. We couldn't even We couldn't even do it. >> Every time we did it, we we messed up. The Tik Tok wasn't long enough for all us to get in the Tik Tok. So, she erased it. And then when that didn't work, right, let's go over >> and clarify some details. Um, I feel I feel like there's I feel like you're mostly truthful, but I feel like you're holding back on a few things. >> Why? Why? >> Um, on to a few things. Who all who all was at this apartment right at the time of the incident? Who was in that apartment? >> It was the big fat boy. >> Jamaican. >> Okay. And for females. >> She was wearing pink with a black shirt. >> From head to toe. What was she wearing? >> Um, and a bonnet. >> She had a pink bonnet on. Black bonnet, red bonnet. >> A burgundy uh bonnet. >> It was burgundy. Okay. [clears throat] So, where did she go after all this happens? >> She went home. >> Do she drive? >> She know how to drive. She told me not to put her name in it, but >> I mean >> her name in it because she don't know Na for real. So, how do you know when how so how do we know when we talk to Jamaican that they not going to say, "Yeah, Molly pulled the trigger. She had a gun." No. No. Why would he say that when he was the one trying to show show us what was on the gun? >> I didn't pull no trigger on him. >> You sure you don't know any like we we need to find out who Jamaican is? That's like really key. you I mean we can't we can't worry about this the snitching aspect and all that kind of stuff like that you say you're not afraid of them you always around there you know what I'm saying you know these dudes you get what I'm saying >> I don't know I don't know him I don't know the Jamaican I don't know his real name if I knew him >> like I wouldn't say he old like up in y'all age like not your age but like 20 Is he is it? So, we talk to people, then we come back, we talk again. [clears throat] Obviously, it's my second time talking with you cuz now we get inconsistencies in the stories and we're like, "Well, this is not what she said. So, let me go back and and touch base with her." Just like my partner said, what's stopping what's stopping from anybody that was there, the people that we have saying that you accidentally pulled that trigger or you mess with the gun? >> When asked what happened to the gun afterward, she says she was focused on the injured woman and did not see where it went. She suspects another person took it, but cannot confirm that. What she personally observed is different from what she inferred while everyone reacted to the emergency. >> Wait, you're messing with the gun? Cuz you said everyone's tossing the gun around. You got the gun last >> and I and the man came in and was all like, I better stop. And he had the gun. >> Yeah. So, what what exactly if if he's going I'm going to show you something. Um it what was his key statement when he came in? Y'all are tossing the gun back and forth around taking Tik Tok videos or attempting to at least he comes in and we'll call because this this it'll take a little bit to download it. Um, so for today, I I don't know when exactly I'll get it back to you. Um, it's not too long, but I'll get it back to you as soon as I can, but we will call uh your mom. I'll talk to her, my partner talk to her, or we'll let you talk to her so she fully understand what can happen. If if you need a ride back to her house or something, we'll get all that worked out for you. Okay. It just made me want to like [snorts] don't even be a Jasmine, bro. It's always something like it's always something, bro. Like it never fails. [snorts] Like that crazy talking about he say she say I pull the trigger like I was guilty. If I'm guilty of doing something I like to hide. I like to go. You feel me? Got to admit I be playing tough. I don't know nothing. I'll be acting like a donut girl. I don't know nothing. What y'all talking about? I wasn't there. I would have been putting that mood on. You feel me? Like >> feel I'm jelly bean like feel me? Hard in the outside, soft on the inside. But as you can see, it's messing with me. >> You said what now? A jelly bean. >> Hard in the outside, soft on the inside. >> Oh, it's messing with me. I got to >> All right. You want to read this? This is going to give me consent to uh to do a full phone download on you. If you want to read this here, you're going to write your name right here. Okay. I do here authorize and give my permission to Detective D. Hancock that's me who has identified himself to me as a sworn law enforcement officer employed by the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office to take possession of and with the necessance of computer forensic examiner uh authorized law enforcement agent to make a full and complete search of my computer computer peripherals inside this is what you're looking at right here the cellular phone related to the media content located and this this address here cuz this is obviously where we're at in the phone at I've been advised the law enforcement officers are engaged in investigation concerning an alleged violation of federal and or state laws utilizing computer audio visual digital technology. I do authorize and get permission to set law enforcement officers to take any computers, computers, peripherals, cellular phones, and related media or devices which may have or might have connection value or relevance as evidence instead of that. [snorts] So, I'm going write your name or you write your name here. And then the above law force also ask fully and fairly advise me of my rights as follows. that you have a right to refuse consent to the search of my property and that any computers, peripheral sailor phones, and related media found by state officers in the course of their search can be used as evidence against me or others in a court of law. So, just your name um initial initial sign. >> So, I'm allowed to go home. >> What's that? >> I'm allowed to go home. Well, we'll we're still working on it. Wait, let >> you know at the end. It's um I'm saying so after this um be still sitting here. >> Yeah, it's we'll let you know when where I'm just trying to go. >> These are >> You said something about a ride and stuff. That's all. >> If Yeah. If it comes out that we're going to take care of all that for you. >> You said basically how long I sit here if I don't have no ride to come pick me up. >> No, no. If what I was saying is if you need a ride at the end of all this, we'll get you a ride home. >> Oh, okay. Or what I was saying is if we call your mom and you need to set that up, we'll let you set that up as well. >> Nope. Nope. Yeah, you're right. Sorry. Also got the wrong line. [snorts] >> You want me to write in curs? >> Nope. Print right there and then sign it at the bottom. >> Um, it's in my phone. >> [snorts] >> And my initials. >> Yep. My initial there. Initial there >> and then sign right there. [snorts] put a foot on my phone. I appreciate it. Sorry. >> I didn't know if I thought it was a [ __ ] for some reason. You know, you know, she's there with her mom, her dad, her boyfriend. What's going on? >> My friend be somewhere everywhere. >> Be [snorts] some everywhere. >> Yeah, cuz she just moved out of her apartment. >> She just moved out of her apartment. >> Yeah, that's >> Do you know where that was at? [snorts] >> That was on M Road. >> What road? >> M road. >> [snorts] >> Does your phone have a password on it? >> Yes. I don't know. >> I use the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah. Let me get Let me get somebody to get Yeah. All right. Still working on Do you want water or anything? >> You good? All right. Um, so you know what you're making, right? >> [snorts] >> But not like Oh, yeah. I grew up with him. Just know him. So going around at the house. >> Yeah. >> So you know from >> you know you know him if you see him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yes sir. Cuz I see I you know >> how many months have you been How many months have you been going around the house? >> When they first bought me to the house? Um, it been long, you know, since I started chilling around her who I met >> months. >> I'll say what we in June. >> Me and May. >> The end of May. >> June. So, um, April. >> So, that's You've been around. He's been around consistently. Okay. Just checking. >> If I show you a picture, you going to be able to tell me if it's him or not? Yeah, because I looked at, you know, see him in person. >> Well, that's we just want to make sure that you know establishing that. >> Yes. >> All right. >> Yes. Okay. >> That's him. >> Scar from his eye. >> All right. >> Okay. Signing date. >> Do me a favor. >> Boo. You know, I'm ass. >> As the question continues, the detective returns to the sequence of events and points out differences between accounts. She maintains that the other man was demonstrating something on the gun when it fired. The important issue is whether that explanation fits the position's handling of the weapon and details investigators. >> Just write this is and what you know him as and then sign and data for me please. >> Y'all going to do this with my picture? >> H >> y'all going to do this with my picture? >> What are you talking about? >> Like a picture like this? >> Like a picture of you? Yeah. So, how do you spell Jamaican? >> A I C A N >> A. >> Are you adding? >> Yeah. >> J A spell a >> M >> A I C A N. >> Jamaican [snorts] N. >> And then date. >> Yep. Sign. >> What's the date? We are now in the 24th of May. [snorts] >> 24 23. There you go. >> And then just uh sign it up on There you go. >> I say >> just however you sign. If you go with that, I'm good with that. What what was she listed under? >> Do she stay with her mom? >> No, >> she don't. >> Like I said, >> she just be rent. She rents. >> Oh, she just be anywhere at her people house. >> Does her Does her phone work? >> No, her phone I don't. I can FaceTime. >> So, she has to be around some internet. >> Yeah. Like if I was get straight up like she'll do it. But when that just was going on, everybody back down. I don't want no farts. I don't want no parts. >> So, and let me get this straight again. So, the girls at the house was you, right? So it's four girls. Who >> you saying? >> Me? >> Yep. >> As in Mario, >> the victim. All right. >> And one boy in the bathroom. big boy that I don't know was and it went down [clears throat] so it was none but for us in the bathroom. >> All right. All right. Thank you. >> We're we're working towards the end. >> What is this? You know where it's just like low. So when when he clicked the thing just bow. >> So it's it's you're facing the mirror, gun's pointed that way, it shoots this way. So you're standing right there in front of it. >> And I would say um the gun is not correctly hold like it's flipped the other way. >> It's not holded correctly by him. It's flipped the other way cuz he trying to show me. But when he grabbed it, I let go. >> I let go. So, so you're right there like like he's behind you actually as the gun is going off and >> show like damn >> he I'm just saying I know I got >> I had the gun right here like I wish I >> No, I'm I'm like are you immediately immediately letting it go or you just >> Yeah, I immediately let go. Like once I saw >> Is he showing you? Are you still But he's behind you though. Like right? >> Yeah. like he was like not like on my booty or nothing like you feel me his arms like you feel me like trying to trying to show me but I let go trying to see like what a little thing he talking about and when he when I seen him move that bit the bit went like this and when it went like this it went boom >> okay so your hands were never on the gun >> no it was before he got it he got it let it go cuz I'm trying to figure out >> from what you just showed me. It's like he's like around like he's like literally behind you. He's a guy. It's like he's just behind you. He's going to come behind you. Cuz if he just wanted to show you how to perform the mechanism of the gun, all he had to do is like walk up to me like, "Hey, look. This is Let's Hold on. Let's stop everything and let's point the gun down and let's I'm going to show you how to use the safety on it." But he's he's coming behind you and >> Yeah. >> is simultaneously it happens. >> When you did that, you move to the side. [snorts] >> You were able to move to the side with him straddling you like that? >> Yeah. Like when I'm trying to see him move the little thing, when he moved it, it like it feel back. >> I guess my question is, is he are you in that position of you being right here and him right here when the gun goes off? >> Yeah. Like close like everybody like in a circle like this. Like this is how he is in the circle like you feel. >> Okay. But you you see what I'm asking you? Is he like over you as it going as the gun goes off? >> Um so he he's over around you. You drop your hands, but he still got his arms around you. Yeah, but it's like it's like he not like like behind me. It's like he like >> it's like he like this like he's short. So it's like he not like this behind me, but it's like like I was like this like you feel me? And the gun low like you feel me? That's I call behind like but he holding it and I'm trying to see what he like doing when he did it. It just wow. So the question is if you're standing right there now this gun is I can't say upside down because it it's firearm doesn't really have an upside down but the selector switch talking about the safety switch is on the thumb side so that would be up >> right how does he hold a rifle if he's behind you and he's got his big old rifle right here and you're standing right here your face would literally be just the way you showed me my arms would over your shoulder. Even if it wasn't, I'd have to go like this and not see anything. >> Yeah. And then when he moved the thing, I like backed up. Like, you feel me? When I was about to back up, it just went boom. That's why I said like the gun. >> So, did it did it happen and you dropped? Was it four hands on the gun or just two hands? >> Just two hands. >> Okay. Like, did it did you when it did Did you did your hands drop when it went off? You was like, "Oh, shit." when it dropped it like >> but you >> Well, my partner's asking when he came around you and he was like, "Let me show you something." >> Yeah. When he was all like, "Let me let me show you something." I like I'm like, "What?" And then he was like, "Look, look, look." And then when he say, "Look, look." I like let go him to look. >> All right. But do you see how close >> How tall is he? >> Like >> he's he's your height. Not my height, but he like a couple inches. >> Okay. But short. >> With me being 6'2, I have long arms and I can go like this. >> Yeah. >> Even with that, >> it's pretty difficult. >> It's it's it's kind of difficult to say, especially if the gun fired that way, that switch is up. If I'm holding a rifle, I can't really get to that switch. So, I have to come over here or I have to do some weird stuff or hold it in the middle, something like that. Even while I'm doing that, >> he got it in his hand though, cuz he the one flick the switch. When he flicked that jump, that jump. Pow. >> Is he using your hands to show you exactly what to do? >> No, he didn't use my hands. He used my hands. That's why I said when he said, "Let me show you something." I was holding. But I let it go. Once he was showing me the little moving thing. When he was showing me the moving thing, I'm trying to figure out what it is. It I like, you feel me? I move my head. >> Who had the best point of view of this? is over here. >> She's not way right there though. >> No, I know that she's right here. >> Right here like by the shower by the cliff shower thing like right here like everybody right here. She was looking. Everybody was looking what he was talking about. And then when we see what he was talking about that [ __ ] went off and everybody got the movie. >> Okay. >> All right. We going to we going to make sure this is obviously the right way. But for now, can we we want to we like to do DNA as far as the gun situation um just to establish who was and who was. The investigation also turns to messages and phone records. Those records could help establish what people discussed before and after the shooting, giving detectives another way to check the timeline. But digital evidence needs context. The goal is not to assume what a message means, but to compare it with the >> who was and who wasn't holding the gun. Oh, you got one. >> All right. So, yeah, we're going to obviously we're going to swap the rifles, all that stuff. We're going to say, "Hey, yeah, your DNA is going to be on it. You said you had it in your hands. Your DNA is going to be on the gun. We're going to swab your DNA and say, "Okay, we we expect her DNA to be on there." So, this is her DNA. So, you can see everybody was >> Yeah. So, we we have to even though multiple people be on it, we can we can >> we can sort out who had that gun in their hand. So, we expect your DNA to be on that gun. So, we're going to get a sample of your DNA and we're going to say, "Okay, this is hers. She already said that she had it." This person said, "Yep, she held it." Well, whose DNA is this? We can't We haven't talked to this person. Whose DNA? Who else had this rifle? That kind of deal. Okay. [snorts] Um, you give us consent to uh take your DNA. It doesn't hurt. It's literally a cute tit and you're done. >> How do we find How do we find Kav? She um last time I checked she was at her brother house >> that was like we show locations but >> do you know her brother where he lives at? >> Cuz I tried to go there. She said my brother don't want nobody know where I stay. So I said you could just come with us with me and the girls. >> All right. Just write your name there. It's just saying I've been I have not been promised anything. I' not been threatened or coished to provide consent. I am providing this consent voluntarily with understanding that any evidence obtained may be used against me in all criminal proceedings. I've been advised that I have the right to refuse to provide consent. Okay. So, just write your name right there. And it's going to be what they call buckle swabs. Like I said, it's literally a Q-tip. You'll say right there. Mhm. And >> so, right. And then sign. [snorts] >> Um so sign and print. [snorts] going to say that because he not want to take the blame if he find out this girl dead. >> That's when we go ask him. We like, why you why is her her fault, not yours? Or why is it >> why you saying it's her fault? >> Exactly. Like I said, I know I didn't pull no trigger cuz I was paying attention to that little switch thing that he was trying to show me. >> Okay. All right. But she was right up front there, >> huh? >> She was right up front there. >> What you mean? >> She had a front row seat to it all >> to uh the scene. >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. She was present in the bathroom and stuff. All right. >> So, like I said, Uh, this is um, you feel me? He's trying to show y'all something on the gun because that did happen like >> Okay. [snorts] All right. Give me a few. I I thought we were done, but we got to go. >> About this. >> That's not him, right? >> I Yeah, that don't look like >> All right. Yeah. Sorry about that. No, you're good. You're good. All right. Why didn't after she was shot? >> Why didn't Why didn't you or why didn't anyone call 911? >> When the promotion was blown up, I was trying to call 911, but I didn't know where my phone was at the time. But when Big TJ came in though, like I said, they had a lucky phone. I saw I was like, "What you trying to just be here?" Like everybody was when the shot fired, everybody got in action as in stuff, you feel me? Too much moving around. [ __ ] can't think like, you feel me? I I I don't even know where the [ __ ] my phone at. That's all. The detective asks her to clarify exactly where she was standing and who had the gun when it fired. She says she had let go while the other man demonstrated something. Reconstructing the scene matters because small differences in position and timing can help investigators assess which parts of an account. >> They put her in the car like you feel me? I'm like, "Y'all need to call 911." No, bro. No, bro. You saying >> they >> did you did you observe Big TJ? I guess the guy who drove out to the hospital. Did he actually come in the house? >> Um house. >> But I'm saying but why is he trying to step foot into the door? They coming out the door. So it's like he trying to open the door but the door already been trying to be open. Like you feel me? He >> after the shooting? No, this is when when Junk went down. When he just came up out the blue. >> Okay. So, he's upstairs. He's not downstairs. >> He just walked upstairs though. >> Okay. >> And that's when everybody went, you feel me? That's when everybody >> Did he come in the bathroom and look and say all [ __ ] or did he ever make it to the bathroom? >> No, because he didn't go to the bathroom because I don't help Nia up. >> Okay. So, where is she at when he sees her? >> She come in the bathroom. She um right there by the um door in the room. >> Okay. So he can see her >> when he was just like when he was at the front like what y'all got going on like shot bro? He like no. And then I'm like bro yes yeah like come on let's take her to the hospital. You feel me? Like he I'm like bro get her up TJ. He got her off. >> What what time would you say this happened? like the times like like 12 something. >> Okay. >> If it's not 12, that's too late. It had to be like around 9 10 or 11 >> when the shooting happened. >> I don't I don't know. I don't know what time, but I know it was like late getting there. >> And how long it took y'all to get to the hospital? Like how when did y'all figure out we got to take her to the hospital on our own opposed to calling 911? But how long did she lay there or whatever for a while? Like she didn't lay there for a while. Like when I see the blood that's not helped her up and when TJ was like basically trying to see like should I get myself involved or shouldn't like he was just iffy about it like >> like shaking like but I don't want to get into like but you just going to leave her though like he just picked up like come on y'all put her in the car like you feel me? >> Okay. So well I guess how long time lapse let's say >> boom the rifle goes off. >> It was quick though. Like it wasn't no long wait. It was quick though. Like when we got her to the hospital like you feel me? She went it was quick. Especially the way how he driving like for police to flag us down down the street and stuff like that. He got there quick cuz that's all I was talking about. Bro, make sure you get her there, bro. She got to breathe. Make sure she get there. They put her in the car quick. I can say that. Like >> where was the car parked? >> Like it was >> cuz you know you come down the stairs. >> It right there. >> Right there on the the very front row. >> Yeah. Just straight like this. >> Okay. >> Not no back end, none of that. It's like >> who's carrying her down the stairs? >> I I don't know. But I will say >> So you you left her somewhere >> to go get your phone if you carried out the room and you said you didn't take her downstairs. What what I did um when Big TJ grabbed her, I did leave out the room. Um who was the other person um helping helping him? Um >> Well, you named all the people, so you know who? >> Yeah, I named a lot of people, but I'm trying to like think think back in action cuz I was just moving so fast. Like if it might hit her, but I was moving so fast. But I know for sure. >> The case ends in sentencing where the consequences become real. A young woman is gone. Her family is left grieving and the social media posts surrounding her death at another >> move so fast. But I know for sure that TJ picked her up who helped him either. One of them helped him. >> All right. >> One of them had to help him because by the time I got downstairs, they was closing the doors. You feel me? >> So one of them had to help him, but I just know who picked her up from the start. I made him. I didn't make him. But you feel me? He could hear in my voice like, "Dang, you going to leave the girl here?" Like you had to think like you know like what y'all got me into bro? Like >> so are we talking about just a few minutes after the rifle goes off? She's in the car headed to the hospital. We talking about 10 minutes 15 minutes? >> 10 minutes. >> 10 minutes. Okay. >> Like it wasn't long like we like >> and this didn't this didn't happen. But say if TJ TJ wouldn't have came like who would have what y'all would have did? >> I would have called 911 from my phone. By the time I was dialing 911, I was telling TJ put her in the car. But I was like head to like damn I had think like if I call 911, they asked me the address and [ __ ] We going been, you feel me? We going to go to the hospital. So it's not like [ __ ] it. >> But 911 was on my do, you feel? Once I got my phone, it was on my dialer. But [ __ ] >> you didn't never dial or hang up or anything? >> Yeah. Like like [ __ ] >> You didn't dial it? You never dial? >> I never I pressed it, but I'm like [ __ ] We can take her to the hospital. Like, you feel me? Ain't no That's That's going to be >> All right. >> All right. All right. All right. So, we're all done. Um, appreciate you talking to us and stuff. I do have some bad news, though. All right. You do have two warrants. >> It's not from us. It looks like um, well, I mean, it's from JSO. It's not from us. It's not for this incident. It looks like you have a violation of probation for I think it was what you were telling me, the criminal mischief or whatnot. Vandalism with a car. It doesn't tell me what you violated. It just says the the statutes criminal mischief, which is vandalism. Um, >> what do you see? So you guys >> think about what Mariah told detectives. Do you believe her account of what happened or do some details leave you wondering what really went on in that bathroom? I like to hear your take. So leave a comment below. And if you enjoy real interrogation footage and the details people often miss, subscribe to Verdict Interrogation for