He said make sure make sure you you know how to use it. That's what he told me. That was the rule that you make sure you know how to use it. >> And what do you think he meant by that? Did he um did he teach you to point it at other people? What was the what were these uh what were the gun safety rules he was teaching? >> Spoiler details are in the video description and the full results of all charges in the case are laid out at the end of the video. >> Let's get that breathing. I'm very sorry. I'm truly truly truly sorry. Okay. Obviously we're just trying to find out exactly what happened and try to really wrap our heads [snorts] around what happened today. Okay? >> I loved my husband so much. I loved my husband so much. [laughter] I loved [clears throat] my husband so much. >> I'm sure. >> I told I loved my husband >> How long how long have you guys been married? >> 49 years. >> 49 years. I am so sorry. I understand you had a son. >> He was my son my son. >> And your son was a veteran? >> Yes. Yes. >> [snorts] >> Yes. >> So because we're sitting here by law I have to just read you a couple of things, okay? So if you are you willing to let me do that and then we can just try to find out what happened. Does that okay? All right. Sounds >> [snorts] >> What's the highest grade you completed in school with? >> What was it? >> Any drugs or alcohol today? Any drugs or alcohol today? >> No. >> Can you read and write in English? >> I understand English and read and write. >> Okay. Last question. I know they're kind of silly, but do you smoke or drink? All right. You have the right to remain silent. You do not have to say anything if you don't want to. But anything you do say can be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to talk to a lawyer before answering any questions and have him here with you. You can't pay for a lawyer, one will be given to you before any questioning if you wish. If you do wish to talk with me, you can stop at any time. Do you understand what I just said to you? All right. Do you hear? Yes. Yes. >> [snorts] >> And then Do you want to talk to us now about We need to find out what happened here. >> My husband is a a security guard. >> Before we start Yes, you you're going to talk to us. Right? Yes. We're just looking to find out what happened, so that's all we're talking about. I know it's got to be incredibly traumatic for you. >> They tell me. >> Can I ask you some questions about that? >> [snorts] >> How do you say your name? You say it Skelton, is that right? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You said you got married 49 years. >> My son. >> When did you lose your son? >> My son, where is my son? My son. >> Which son are we talking about? Can we make a phone call for him? >> Shante. >> Shante? >> Shante. >> Is your son? >> Shante. Shante. >> And where where would we find Shante? >> Hey. My son. My son. And my son. My son died. This way. >> [laughter] >> MY SON DIED, JOE. >> WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR WHAT HAPPENED YOUR SON? >> I don't know. >> Does he live locally or is he Yes. Yes. >> Well, [snorts] I don't know. He was my grandson. He was only in the jail. >> Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. How long ago was this? >> It was in June. >> In June? >> in June. >> [snorts] >> And they still don't know Have they had any idea what happened? >> No, I don't [laughter] know what happened to my son. >> [snorts] [snorts] >> It's so hard. >> [laughter] >> He's my only child. >> [snorts and laughter] >> Where did he serve? Where did he serve in the military? >> The army. The army. >> The army? >> He was in the army. My son was in the army. >> What did he do in the army? Did he have a job? >> I I don't know what he did in the army. I just >> Did he have to go overseas at all? >> Yes. >> He did that. >> Yes, he went overseas. Yes, he did. >> Yeah. >> He went overseas. He was um He went a long time. A long time. >> Yeah. It's got to be hard. Surely you're proud of him, though, right? >> Oh, my baby. Oh. >> Now, was he husband's son as well or was he >> Yes. Yes. Yes. My husband Where is my husband? Where is he? >> We want to find out. >> Where is he now? Where is he? >> He is probably on his way to >> I tried to save him. I tried to save him. I tried to save him. I really did. I tried to save him. >> Can you talk about that? >> It was an accident, okay? It was just an accident. >> Listen, ma'am. Nobody's saying that all of that. We'd love to hear all about it. >> It was just an accident. It was an accident. I didn't I didn't even >> Tell you what. Can you just tell us >> I I remember. >> Start at the beginning. >> Huh? >> Start at the beginning and just tell us. >> What? What? >> Tell us what happened. What How did it come up to this? >> I [clears throat] don't know. I I I I took um I took my um I took my my my truck to be serviced. I didn't wake my husband up because he worked last night. I let him sleep late. >> Okay. >> And I was gone a couple hours. >> Where'd you get your truck work done? >> Um Vision. Vision. >> Vision? On Westbridge? >> It It Henrietta. >> Henrietta? Okay. >> Henrietta Vision. >> Okay. >> And I remember coming back home and I put away some documents that I had left out in my basement. I had everything organized. Put away documents. And and I remember my husband was always afraid for me being home at night by myself. He said, "Stay >> [snorts] >> practice using a gun so you can protect yourself when I'm not home. >> Mhm. >> Just show me that you know how to use it. Just show me that you can use it. Just Just show me that if anybody break in on you that you can you you can protect yourself, Stay. >> Mhm. That's very important, ma'am. >> And that's all I was trying to show him that I could use it, but I didn't know. I didn't realize. I just didn't realize that. Oh, have mercy. >> And we Stay, we completely understand. >> I didn't >> This wasn't an accident, okay? >> I I just didn't realize that. >> But it's important that we find out so that we can >> I didn't realize that. >> Okay. >> I didn't realize that. I wouldn't hurt my husband for the world. >> So, Stay, it's very important. >> I just >> Can you tell us about Are you willing to tell us about what happened today so we can find that out? >> I I I put away stuff like I said and wiped >> Okay, but yes or no? Yes. >> Yes, I can. I can. >> You can tell us about it. >> To the best of my knowledge, I can >> That's probably That's That's all we're looking for. Excuse me. >> To the best of my knowledge, but I can't remember it. I I [clears throat] I put away the napkins like I said and I [snorts] uh I came upstairs and and What did I do? Came upstairs and and was going to fix me some dinner and then I said, "No. Wait until he gets home." Cuz he was out at Wait Wait till he gets back so we can eat together. >> You and your husband? >> Yes. Yes. >> Wait You were going Who was going to fix you dinner? He was going to fix you or you were going to >> Dinner was already >> Dinner was made? >> Dinner was already made. >> Okay. >> All I had to do was uh heat up food. That's all I had to do was heat up food. >> What were you going to have? >> What we going to have? >> Yeah. >> Leftovers. Just Just leftovers. Just Just leftovers we were going to have. But and then I said I No, make him proud of me today and show him that I can take care of myself if you're not around. >> Mhm. >> Because my husband would he would often he would often leave his job and come ringing the doorbell just to check on me. Just to check. [laughter] >> Just to make sure you're being safe? >> Make sure I was being safe. >> Yeah. You said he works security? >> Yes, he kept on >> Where does he work security? >> Where? Where he works security? He works He works um He works for um He works for Allied. Um It's Allied who who works for uh works for Kodak. >> Is Allied the name of the security company? >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> I understand. And when does he when does he work for them? >> He works uh He works for He works for the midnight. >> What do you mean night? >> And I am afraid at home at night a lot. >> I'm sure you are. >> I don't want to [laughter] be afraid. I'm afraid. >> I'm very sure. >> [snorts] >> He knows I'm afraid. >> [snorts] >> I'm so afraid of being in the house alone, especially especially since my son died. >> So what did he teach you to do when you're afraid? >> Told me he's a scaredy. This is how you You make sure you know how to load this now. He make sure you know how to load this. This is what you do. >> Can you show show me how you load it? >> I >> [clears throat] >> What do you remember? It's a It's got a lever, right? Isn't that the rifle? >> I don't know. I don't remember how to load it. >> Okay. >> I don't know. >> Is Is the rifle loaded all the time or is it >> No. No. >> So where was the rifle at? >> It was always kept in my room to be safe. >> Okay. >> Just wanted to show him the day that you don't have to be afraid. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I had my next door neighbor. And my house came in the house and I was terrified. >> Oh, jeez. >> And my neighbor came over to see about me. I screamed and screamed and I called my husband on the job to come get me and see about me. >> [laughter] >> And it's gotten worse cuz my son can't come over and check on me, either. >> Right. >> He's the only family I have. >> Did your son used to come check on you? >> He used to check on me. And I just I just wanted to show him that I can take care of myself. You don't have to worry. >> [snorts] >> Where's the gun kept in your room? >> It's kept underneath my bed. >> Underneath the bed? Like on the floor or between the mattress? >> Underneath the wood. >> Can you describe it to us? >> It's just a >> Short, long, something else? Long? >> Yeah. >> What color is it? What's it made out of? You know? >> It's okay if you don't know. >> I It's >> If you don't know, that's okay. >> My son just >> I'm just trying to I'm We're just trying to better understand what we're what we're talking about. >> I just I I just wanted to show him that I can I can I can protect myself. Raleigh, don't worry about me when you're not here. So, just don't worry. >> Okay. >> [clears throat] >> Where are the bullets for the gun? >> [snorts] >> They're upstairs in a separate drawer. >> In a separate drawer? >> Yes, we keep them separate. >> And the And so your bedroom's on the first floor? >> Yes. >> It's a split level, right? >> Second floor. >> So your bedroom's on the second floor, too? >> I can. >> I can. But the bullets are kept in a different room on the second floor? >> Yes. >> I guess you said different drawer. >> Yes. >> Different drawer. Okay. Same room, different drawer. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you for correcting me. >> Yes. Yeah, you know. Hey, when Harry met husband world has been done. Husband for the world. Lord have mercy. He's my whole world. >> [laughter] >> I don't know what I'll do. I can't live without him. >> [laughter] [snorts] >> No. Oh Lord. I [laughter] don't know what I'll do without my husband. >> [laughter] >> Oh no. Oh Lord have mercy. >> [laughter] >> So tell us what happened after you you got the gun. You You wanted to show him how You wanted to show him that you could take care of yourself. >> Yes. >> Okay. So you took the gun out from underneath your bed. >> And and I heard him coming and I went out in the garage. And suddenly I can't I don't know how to use it now. But I didn't know anything was in it. >> Do you um Do you remember when So when you grabbed the gun, did you also grab any bullets? >> I I don't remember. I don't [snorts] remember. I just I just don't remember. I mean, they're in a they're in a drawer. >> Right. So, so do you remember taking the gun out from under the bed? >> Yes, I do. I I do. >> Um do you remember what you did after that? Do you think you went over to the drawer? Did you go downstairs or something else? >> [snorts] >> I don't know. I was just I I just I don't remember. I just >> Do you remember opening the drawer then? >> I I I really They're in my bedroom. They're in my bedroom. They're They're in my bedroom. I got them in the drawer. Oh god. >> And then >> Please tell me. Please tell me my husband isn't dead. Please tell me. No, I I can't live by myself. I can't I can't. >> So, you left the walk-in your bedroom because you heard him coming, right? >> Yeah. >> And how did you hear him coming? What did you hear? >> He has a loud truck. >> He has a loud truck. So, you heard the truck pull in in the yard. So, then in the driveway. Do you know when this was roughly? >> No, I do not. >> But it was dinner time because you said you were getting ready. >> Yeah, we was getting ready to fix dinner. Getting ready to fix dinner. >> And then walk us through what happened from there. >> And I >> You want to show them >> I was so excited. Came home. Really excited home. >> So, you were happy to see him. >> Yes, happy to see my husband come back home. And ran >> And in the garage and I said, "Honey, are you proud You'll be proud of me." I I thought I'd use this. I know how to take care of me. >> [clears throat] >> And then what happened? >> And then I saw him fall on the ground. And that's so bad. And I tried to I tried to resuscitate him. I said, "Please, Lord. Please let this don't be real. Please, please don't let this be real. Please, somebody help me. Help me." I remember screaming, "Somebody help me, please." And they just kept saying, "We we can't help you. We can't help you." So, I don't remember trying trying to give him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. Lord, have mercy. >> Listen, did you call 911 or did somebody else call 911? >> I didn't call 911. I was trying to give [snorts] him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. >> [snorts] >> And he kept asking, "Somebody please help me. Just help me. Please make sure he's breathing." >> [laughter] >> Can you show us how you were holding the gun? >> I I thought [clears throat] I told him the gun wasn't loaded. >> [snorts] >> Just take that out. I don't remember the position I was holding the gun. I just told him the gun wasn't loaded. I just wanted him to know I could I could use it. I I just >> Do you remember what you were Do you remember what you were going to show him like when you gave when he came in? >> Yeah, that I could just shoot it, but I didn't I didn't realize bullets presented. I did not >> Okay. I thought >> [snorts] >> I thought >> So can you show us >> I thought I didn't [clears throat] know there was I had no idea there was a bullet in it. I just I didn't I didn't know there was a I just say >> Do you remember what you were doing with it at the time? >> [clears throat] >> Remember what you were doing with it at the time? What were you going to How were you going to show them that you knew how to use it? >> Just pull the trigger and just Cuz if Nothing is in it. It just snaps, right? >> Right. >> Nothing there. >> And that's what you're saying when you when you pull the trigger >> I thought I didn't know there was I didn't know there was bullets in it. I just >> So you're saying when you when you pull the trigger it would just snap? >> Right. >> Okay, and that would be like the sound that the gun would make? >> Right. There's nothing in it. And that's what I That's what >> Is this what he's Is this what he's taught you? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did it Did that happen this time? But that didn't happen this time, right? What happened this time? >> I never wanted a gun in the house in the first place. Never [clears throat] wanted a gun in my house, period. No. [snorts] No. I hate guns. I don't like guns. >> When the [snorts] gun went off, was it up, or was it down? Do you remember if you were holding it like that? You held it like that? >> I'm sorry. I don't remember. >> I know, sweetie. That's why we're talking, cuz a lot of times when we talk to you like this you know, it helps to remember helps remember things. >> I just so I just want my husband back. I know. I just want Riley back. Please, just tell me. >> [snorts] >> Please tell me he's all right. Please tell me Riley's all right. I can't live without my husband. >> Um when he came back, were you saying anything to him? Remember you mentioned you said that you're going to be proud of me, I can defend myself. >> Yes. >> Um did you say anything else? >> I don't know. >> What did he say What did he say in return? >> He said, "Okay." >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um did he ask you to see anything or did he >> No. >> No. Was that about the time the gun went off? >> Yes. >> Was that after you said okay? >> Yeah. >> Do you remember where you guys were in the garage? Was it the garage or the driveway in the house somewhere else? Maybe where you were standing, we'll start with that. >> I don't know. I'm just so >> Do you remember where he was standing? When the gun went off, was he facing you or was he facing away from you? >> He was He was facing you. He was facing God. I just can't believe I just can't believe. I can't believe. I just can't believe. Please tell me this didn't happen. Please. Please, this didn't happen. Please, somebody tell me this isn't real. Please. Please. Oh, please tell me this isn't real. My husband. >> Do you remember what you did with the gun after it went off? >> I don't remember. >> No? >> All I remember is trying to get him trying to resuscitate my husband. That's all I wanted to do was resuscitate my husband. >> Mhm. >> [snorts] >> And I asked, "Somebody help me, please. Is he breathing? Please help me. Help me." And somebody said, "I can't help you." "I can't help you." "Somebody call 911." >> Okay. Well, it sounds like sounds like they did. Right? Um can you tell me about the uh looks like there's like some sort of cleaning material on the driveway, like Goof Off or something like that. It's like a can. Do you know what that is? >> Huh? >> Goof Off. Or it's like some sort of uh cleaning material or a lubricant or something. It was on the driveway. >> My husband. >> Your husband? >> He would use that. >> What would he use it for? >> I don't know. >> Oh. Uh is it normally on the driveway? >> Not to my knowledge. >> Okay. Was he carrying anything when he came in? >> I don't know. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> It was like an aerosol It was like an aerosol can? Um okay. So, we don't know what that was about. Were you Were you using any of that today? >> No, I was not using it. >> Was your husband Was he working on the truck? Was he doing something else with it? >> He probably was doing something else with it. I don't know. >> What did he go What did he leave for? He said he He said he left and then he was coming back and you guys were going to have dinner. What did he leave for? >> He must have went out. He must have went >> Oh, you don't know? >> Yeah, no. >> Okay. >> No. No, no, no. A lot of times he'll just leave without telling anybody that he comes right back. >> Okay. Do you know what store he usually goes to? >> He usually goes to He usually goes to Home Depot. >> Okay. Do the security cameras in your house work? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Do they record? >> Yeah. >> Where's the Where does it record to? >> What does it record to? >> Yeah. Does it record to a box in the house? >> Yes, it goes to the house. >> Where's that box at? >> It's in the basement. >> In the basement? >> Mhm. >> Okay. If you If you want to review what was on the camera, you would go down to the basement? Um is there Is it just a box? Is there like a screen down there that you can view? >> It's a television screen. >> Is it hooked up to like a TV that you would watch movies on or is it hooked up to something else? >> It's hooked up to something else. >> Okay. >> Do you need a passcode to to be able to watch it? >> No, no. >> If you >> did, what do you think it would be? >> [snorts] >> Who's in charge of that account? Was it your husband or was it you? >> It's my account. >> So, you set up the security camera? >> didn't set it up. A friend of his set it up for him. >> A friend of his? >> Yeah. >> Um Have you Have you viewed them recently? >> No. >> No? Have you viewed them since you put them in? >> No. >> No? Or has your husband, do you think? Um But, are you sure Are you confident there's a password There's not a password, or do you think there might be? >> I'm pretty sure there's a password. >> Oh, there is a password? >> Mhm. >> Okay. What do you think that might be? >> The password Password is my mother's name and the year my brother was born. >> Your mother's name and the year your brother was born? >> Mhm. >> Okay. What's your mother's name? >> Nin, N I N. >> N I N? >> Mhm. >> Um is that spelled correctly? N I N? And then, uh what year was your brother born? >> 1938. >> 1938? Um so, you think the password is N I N 1938? >> Are they all capitals or all small or combination? That you know of? You're not sure? >> I don't >> Which one is capital? Sorry. N I N 1938. Give it up. I'm sorry. Do you Do you have a cell phone? Is that at home or did that Where is that at? >> It's at home. >> It's at home. Did your husband have a cell phone? >> Mhm. >> Is it home as well? Okay. We're going to collect those up just to take a look at it if you don't mind. You guys is are there Do you know your husband's password? For which one? Yeah. >> I think I don't know if he ever set it up. I'm not sure. >> If it If he did have it, what do you think it would be? >> It would be um the year he was born, 1950. >> 1950, so 1950. >> I'm not sure. >> What about yours? >> 1954. >> Is that year you were born? >> Yes. >> God bless you. Okay. >> Well, you you kind of already alluded to it already. How was your relationship with your husband? >> We got along very well, very much. >> Okay. Um >> Very much. >> Now, I I know most of the time everybody doesn't get along all the time, right? Um how would you guys say you got along? >> Got along very well. >> Okay. Um >> Very well. >> Besides any minor disagreements or you know, like take out the trash or something like that? >> No. >> You probably always did that, too, huh? >> He did He took out the trash. >> Okay. Um So, no other no other issues? Okay. Any recent arguments or anything like that? >> No. We just struggling trying to deal with our son, the loss of our son. >> I can't imagine. >> That's what we talked about all the time. What happened? He just left us so soon. >> How would she die with that? >> Not well. >> Not well. >> Not well at all. >> Have either of you thought about hurting yourself at any point? >> Excuse me? >> Have either of you thought about hurting yourself? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> No? >> No. >> He's never said anything like that. He's never tried to >> No. Well, we just We want to know what happened to him. >> Yeah. >> We want to know what happened. >> So, your husband uses drugs or alcohol? Does he drink at all? >> I don't know if he does anymore. He can't drink on his medication. >> He can't drink? >> No. He takes a lot of medicine. A lot of medicine. >> Yeah. Does he drink at all? Any alcohol? >> Pretty sure he does occasionally, yes. I'm not really sure he does occasionally. >> Okay. That's That was really good. Mhm. What does he What does he drink these days? Beer, liquor? Don't know. >> If he does, he wouldn't do it around me. >> No. >> He wouldn't do it around me. >> How come he wouldn't do it around you? >> Cuz he's on a lot of medicine. >> Cuz he's on a lot of medicine. Okay. Would he be upset if he drank with his medicine? >> It would probably make him very sick. >> Mhm. Okay. >> Cuz Cuz probably his only It's not of his only 43%. 2 years ago he was down 10%. >> So, he's been getting sicker and sicker? >> No, staying getting better. Security makes him feel that he feels better. >> Does it? >> Yes. >> Gives him a purpose? >> Gives him a purpose in life. >> Have you guys made plans for what happens after one of you passes? >> Yes. We uh After my son died, we just did our will and will. It's for the grandchildren. Three of them. And we waited to pick them up from the attorney. >> What attorney? >> Philip Cohn. >> Philip Cohn? >> Mhm. >> So, everything are you >> Everything it's split between my three grandchildren. >> Yeah. Any insurance policies for you, for him? >> We both have insurance policies. >> Any amount of money in the bank? >> They're the same. >> Same? And those go to the grandchildren as well? >> They would. >> They they That money would go to the grandchildren? >> They would go to the grandchildren. >> How are you guys doing on money? Are you struggling at all? Are you trying to make ends meet? >> We are not struggling. >> No? >> We are not. >> Okay. Are you Are you retired? Do you work? I mean, I didn't ask. >> I I was in broadcasting. >> What's that? >> Broadcasting. >> Broadcasting. Oh, really? >> For 42 years. >> Tell me about that. >> A pleasure. I broadcast Yankees games. >> Really? Come on. >> You wouldn't know me anyway. >> Really? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah? I smashed his head in the wall. All right, still legends, huh? I know all of them. Really? I worked at Anacom. You worked at Anacom? Is that the company? I was at Anacom and it's something. It's a different company. All right. We were at Anacom for a while. Uh what did you do for Anacom? Traffic agent. Traffic manager. Oh, what's that like? What does that do? Very stressful. Oh, I'm sure. I controlled four stations. Wow. Okay. So were you Are you listening to content or making sure that they're working or No. Everything you hear in the air goes mostly in my office. All the commercials. Okay. I was responsible for that if getting on the air. So you can schedule all of the different plane slots and things like that? Unbelievable. Now you said you still do that or you retired from that? I retired from that. When did you retire? 2018. I retired 2018. Congratulations. That was before Cano left. Yes. I was so tired. I was so tired when I left. How are you feeling now? Still tired because my son He has a lot of energy. I I don't visit his grave site every week. Do you? Every week. You drive? He should have not first. Should have been me first. >> We were talking about the relationship you had with your husband before and I said one more just one more question. I'm trying to know the answer but did he ever you said you guys would typically argue or anything that is he ever put his hands on you? Or hurt you in any way? >> Years ago. >> Years ago? Tell me about that. >> Many many years ago. >> Okay. Three or five or 10? >> Much longer than that. >> Longer than 10? >> Yeah. >> Okay. 18, 20? >> Well, [snorts] probably longer than that. >> My gosh. Was it a one time? Was it several times? >> Well, all couples have problems. >> Absolutely. >> They're not trusting. >> Mhm. Nobody is. I mean >> Not trusting. >> We're not trying to pick from his memory from his younger days or anything like that. We're just trying to like I said, find out the whole story. Okay. That helps us to be able to get a whole picture. Cuz we don't want to get this wrong, right? So, was that something that happened one time? Did it happen a couple times many years ago? >> I was going to say he's very jealous. >> Did you find him to still be jealous recently? >> No, but he's older. >> We're both older. Um Um both older. >> Okay. So, does that come up Does that come up recently? Any jealousies Any jealousy come up? No. Okay. Okay. So, he put his hands on you recently for any other reason? >> Um No. >> Is that something you're still upset with him about? Uh putting his hands on you all those years ago. >> I'm not upset about it. >> You had >> No. God teaches us to forgive. >> Agreed. Did you forgive him? Is there anything else that you you remember about the about the gun or anything like that that might be able to help us? >> If you saw a picture of the gun, would you be able to recognize it? >> This might have been asked before, I don't remember. How many guns are there in the house? >> My husband has one that he um that has a magazine and he carries that everywhere he goes. >> Okay. Uh is that gun big or small or medium size? >> Small. >> Medium size. >> Medium size from a medium size, just so I know what we're >> Something like that. >> Okay. You said it's always on him. Where would he keep it? >> He would He would He would carry it with him in the truck. >> In the truck? >> Yeah, he would carry it with him in the truck. >> Okay. Does he put it on his person? Does he tuck it in his pants or does he tuck it somewhere in the truck? >> He um He carries it um He carries it on a bag in the car. Tied bag um I don't know what small bag or cloth bag. >> Okay. Um is that something he had on him today? >> Yeah, he did. Yes, he did. >> How do you know that? >> Because I went in the bathroom and I started to put that gun down. And my piece forgot to put He does that a quite a bit. He forgot to put it back up. So I just left it folded and put it put it up himself cuz he went out earlier. He takes it with him everywhere he goes. >> Okay. Um >> So he had went out earlier. >> I'm sorry, did you catch So when he went out earlier, did he take it with him? >> I think he was taking it with him. >> Okay. Did you see if it was on the bed. >> So, when you found it on the bed, was that after the accident or was it before the accident? >> I think it was before the accident. I said, "This thing shouldn't be out on the bed." >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And I just left it. >> So, is that where you think it is right now? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> My fingerprints is on it, yeah. Because I tried to put it back in in the drawer. I said, "No, man, do." >> Was it in the case? Was it in that little cloth case? >> At the time? >> Not to my knowledge, no. >> No? >> No. Not to my knowledge. But he uh >> So, he carries it with him everywhere he goes, especially if he's riding in the car. Does he keep it in that cloth case when he's carrying it in the car? >> I don't know. He uh I don't know what he did today because Sure. >> Oh. >> I'll get him more water. I don't know because when I left early this morning, I had an appointment and when I got back he was gone in the Cadillac. And he don't take it with him. >> Okay. >> Especially if he's in the car. Cuz of the carjacking now, he's very paranoid about it. >> Understandable. So, you said you came back from somewhere? >> I Yes, I I took my truck to Fishers. The truck. >> So, the So, is the truck that he was closest to, was that Is that your truck? The pickup truck that was in there. >> This is his truck. >> It's his truck. >> Okay. So, which truck is your truck? >> The burgundy truck. >> The burgundy. So, the SUV? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, you came back from Vision and you said shortly after that he left he went out to Little Wa. >> went out to Little Wa. >> Okay. But you're not sure if he took his gun with him at the time. >> The second time I'm not sure. >> Okay. >> I'm not sure. >> When's the last time he worked? >> He worked last night. >> He worked last night. >> He worked last night. >> And he would bring his gun with him to work. >> I don't know. >> You don't know. >> I don't I don't know but I I don't know. >> All right. We don't We don't want you to think you >> I don't know. Sorry, I don't know. >> That's quite all right. When you went and got the the rifle the gun that was involved in the accident was the handgun or was the other gun lying on the bed then? Do you remember? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It was there. >> Okay. You were waiting for him to put it up. >> Yes. I I don't like This is I don't like touching that. It is. I don't like guns in my home. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't like guns in my home. I don't like guns. >> Did your husband usually leave his guns loaded in the home? >> [clears throat] >> Or does he unload them? >> I don't know. >> You're not sure. >> I don't know. I don't know. He tried to have it just wanted to show me how to use them all the time and I would say, "Don't do that." >> You don't like it when he does that. >> No. He'd say, "You need to know. You need to know. You need to know." >> When was the last time he threatened you? >> Not that long ago. >> Yeah. >> He didn't worry. Bobby, I'm all right. Bobby, please, Lord, help me. >> You said around when? When did you say? Sorry, I didn't catch what you said. Did you say around when? I don't >> I don't know. >> Did he ever take you Did he ever go shooting? Or take you? >> No, no, he's never taken me. >> Okay. Have you ever shot a gun before? I thought you can make up. All right. I'm sorry. So, you Okay. Do you Do you remember at all I know we asked this before. Do you remember at all where you were standing or where he was standing? Or you can try and show us how this all happened because I appreciate everything you're saying. We're just trying to figure out how something like this happens and help us better understand how something like this could happen. I know that that would help me and it would help my partner. >> You know, I remember him getting out and came through the garage. I was so happy to see him. I said, "Honey, look, I'm going to show you I know how to use this today." That's what I said. >> Okay. Okay. And then what did you do? >> And I I pointed it and I didn't know I didn't know that I didn't know where he was. >> Did you point it at him? >> I I >> Or somewhere else? I thought I was pointing it. I thought I was pointing it somewhere else. >> [clears throat] >> Did he uh Did he teach you to point it at other people? What was it What were these uh the gun safety rules he was teaching? >> He said make sure make sure you nobody sees it. That's what he told me. That was the rule that you make sure you're not hiding your weapon. >> And what do you think he meant by that? >> Protect myself. >> Did [snorts] he ever teach you you know about the the safety or Did he teach you how to load it? Or did you just try to know? >> [snorts] >> He tried to teach me how to load it. Well, if I don't get it, he tried to teach me how to load it. And I would say, "I got it. I got it." >> Did he ever teach you any safety rules about guns, anything like that in general? >> No. >> No. Okay. Um did he teach you So, if he's telling you how to use it, right? And you're saying you're using it for protection? >> Right. >> Okay. Did he teach you where to point it? Did he tell you where to point it? >> He said just point it. Cuz it's big he says. It's a big dog. Just point it. >> Just point it where? >> Anywhere. He says just point it. Just shoot. He just say shoot. >> Okay. Is he saying point it at a person, point it at the wall, point it in the air? >> He said person. >> Point it at the person? >> Yes. >> Okay. Now, um Is that what you did today? >> Yes. >> [snorts] >> Right. So, you pointed it >> I didn't know I didn't know it was loaded. I did not know it was loaded. I did not know it was loaded. >> So, just from what I'm just from what I'm getting, so you you come out into the garage, you have the gun. [snorts] You say, "Look, I'm going to show you how to know how to use this." >> Okay. >> You pointed it at your husband. >> Yeah. >> And I said, >> He said, "Okay." He said, "Okay." >> "Okay." Okay. You pointed at your husband and you pulled the trigger. >> Oh, have mercy. Well, I did [clears throat] not know. >> And he fell to the ground. >> Oh my god. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. I saw all this blood and I tried to I tried to miss. Oh god. >> Okay. What are you doing? >> Nothing. >> I mean, so you were kind of watching him You were kind of going through the motions trying to show him like he showed you, right? >> I I I can I can take myself. That's all I said. I know how to protect myself. >> So, could you lift the gun up like this? >> I just I was just holding it like >> it like that? >> Yeah, I just I just >> Are you right-handed or left-handed? >> I'm right-handed. I had no idea that know would go off. I had no idea that it would go off. >> [laughter] >> Can we get you anything? >> No. >> No. Do you need to go to the bathroom or something? >> No. [snorts] >> We appreciate you taking the time, okay? I know that this is difficult to go through. Thank you for helping us better understand, okay? >> I don't [clears throat] understand it myself. >> I know. >> It just Oh god. >> Skaven Andrews was originally charged with second-degree murder, with manslaughter also considered in the 2022 shooting death of her husband in Greece, New York. In August 2023, a jury acquitted her of the murder and manslaughter charges, but convicted her of criminally negligent homicide. On September 22nd, 2023, she received an indeterminate sentence of 1 to 3 years in state prison. She was denied parole in February 2024 with an 18-month hold, a decision later affirmed on appeal. As of the most recent verified public records from 2025, she remained incarcerated at Albion Correctional Facility serving that term.