Hi, how are you? >> Fine. >> You Cynthia? >> Yeah. >> All right. I'm Officer Lamb with the Litchfield Police Department. >> Uh-huh. >> So, have any reason or understanding or to question as to why I'd be showing up at your house just knocking on the door? >> Who? >> Any reason or suspicion why I would be here? >> No. >> Okay. So, are you familiar with John? What What is your relationship to him? >> Well, right now we're just friends. >> Okay. Are you the only one home today? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Pretty sure this was my aunt and uncle's house at one time. >> No. >> Yeah, I'm pretty sure. >> Beagles? >> No. Um Hold on. Sperry. >> Oh, yes. >> Yeah. Anyway. >> What's wrong with Did you know something happened to John? >> Well, can you explain to me you So, you guys are just acquaintances you said? >> Yeah. >> How long have you known each other? >> Oh, since I was little. We grew up across the street from each other. >> You grew up across the street from each other? Okay. Secure. I'm inside the residence speaking with Cynthia at the moment. Um All right. Have you guys been in a romantic relationship at all? >> Well, not what you would think. We had fun one summer. >> Okay. >> Other than there was nothing intimate about it. >> But that was a long time ago? >> No, that was last year. >> This past summer. Okay. Um so, during [clears throat] this time frame did you utilize any of his uh financial assets? >> No. >> To take care of your own personal things? >> No. >> Okay. >> He would take me out to supper once in a while, but then I cooked supper here and feed him the next time. >> Okay. So, can you explain to me what the uh use of his account to pay off your >> You know what? He gave me that card to buy a ring. And I gave it back to him. >> What card? >> The JCPenney Yeah, the JCPenney card. >> He gave you a card to buy a ring. >> Yeah. Yeah, and I gave it >> You gave the card back to him. >> Yes, I did. >> So, you claim that he is in possession of the JCPenney's card. >> I don't know. >> Okay. Well, >> it to him, so I don't know what what he's done with it. >> Okay. But, there's a charge on there. How much was this ring? >> Either it's on sale was either on sale for $1,600 or $2,000. >> Okay. And this ring was purchased with this credit card. The credit card was in whose name? >> I don't know. I didn't even look. >> Okay. So, do you have a credit card through JCPenney? >> Yes, I do. >> You do. May I see it? >> Uh You can't buy drinks with coffee. >> I don't care if you drink coffee. Just don't throw it at me. >> Care if I put this back on? >> Yeah, you can put that back on. >> What's this $500 charge for Dick's Sporting Goods? What's this $500 charge for Dick's Sporting Goods? >> Well, his son was yeah, up to no good. I'll tell you what that that kid He's something else. He's mad because uh he him and another guy sneakily got him declared incompetent. And uh John went to this lawyer across the street. So, I figured he probably tried to get me in trouble cuz I told him a long time ago that he was after his dad's money, and he got all pissed off. Where did I get that? No, I owe $40 on this card. And uh I accidentally, when I went in online to pay it, I paid it with a different credit card. And now I got to get back in and and pay that credit card $40. >> What credit card did you use to pay it? >> Um Hm, I wonder if there's another um something I can call to find out what card I used to pay that on. Cuz it says credit card details, but I don't want to do that. What's the You know, I don't want to do that. Send verification. What's he saying? I used his dad's card? >> Yep. >> God damn, he's crazy. See, his dad's got $3 million. >> Okay. >> And he's after it. And he's got it. He's tricked on into signing these papers. Him and this other guy did. And now his son's got possession of all his money, and he won't even give him money to eat. >> Hm. You don't get a statement electronically regarding your card there about payments and stuff that you do. So, you paid it where? >> Online. >> How did you do it online? >> I went to my wallet. >> Okay. So. >> so I just went there, and there wasn't another card there. I wonder if I can call them. And ask them. So, I swear it said Citibank. And I think I I thought I deleted that card. And um cuz I had too many cards. >> There's There's a phone number on here that you can call for customer support, but >> Can I call it? >> Hold on. I have to zoom in on it cuz it's hard hard to read. >> Thanks. Just a second. Before we get started, looks like we haven't updated your income, which we use to see if you're eligible for credit line increases. Want to update it now? >> No. >> No problem. While I have your account up, let me tell you the latest on your account. Activity from the last 24 hours might not show up yet. This is the same info our customer service agents have. We did receive your last payment of $57.43 on March 13th. You have $2,700 available for purchases, of which $540 can be used for cash advance. At the moment, you don't have a balance and you don't have a payment due right now. >> [snorts] >> Want to hear that again? >> No. I want to speak to customer service. >> I understand you'd like to speak to a person, but first, it would help to know the reason. For example, you could say things like payment address or account summary. >> Um account summary. >> Keep in mind that this is the most up-to-date info that our reps have, too. At the moment, you don't have a balance and you don't have a payment due. Your annual percentage rate for purchases is 33.99%. Want to hear that again? >> No. >> What would you like to do next? >> Talk to a person. >> I know you'd like to speak to someone, but there may be a wait. Instead, I can offer you self-service options. >> Just say operator. >> If you tell me what you need help with, >> Operator. >> to resolve your inquiry Operator. What you got? That's it, the 13th. >> March 13th? Uh Cynthia Bellator. Uh I paid my last payment on my J.C. Penney card, but I accidentally paid it with another card. Can you tell me what that card was? What was that a credit card or my bank account? So it came out of my checking account? Okay. Okay, is do you know what what who paid on that account? Was it my checking account or was it a credit card? I don't have I don't have that checking account. >> Is there a name associated with that checking account? >> Is there a name associated with that checking account? >> Uh no, ma'am. Actually, check it. The payment was actually made online. So, customer made a payment online and there is no name showing on it, ma'am. It was paid um as guest. >> Huh. Okay. Well, don't ask anything else. >> Last four of your checking account, ma'am. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> But that's not my checking account. >> Does it show a check number associated with it? >> Uh so, it won't go through. Okay, what was the check number? >> Well, there is no check number here, ma'am, but let's see for example that the number is incorrect, you'll get a notification if the payment will be rejected due to wrong checking account info. Cuz right now the status of the payment is still in process. It hasn't been cleared, ma'am. >> Okay. Okay. I'm going to check something else. Uh Okay. Okay, I'm going to I'm going to check something else. Okay. >> Was this made online, you say? >> Was this made Yeah, he she said it was made online. Cuz that'll that'll come back because that's not my phone number now or wherever that went to. >> Sorry about that. Let me repeat the number now. Uh by the way, see credit back and it said liars. We'll use this number to call or text or text message frequency vary. Message data rates may apply. The third party found is 2credit.com. So, I have a different phone number. Any other questions, ma'am? >> No. I'm going to look up that company name. Cuz I know I saw company name in here. Okay. >> Okay, thank you for verifying. I appreciate your business. Bye now. >> Thank you. >> [clears throat and cough] >> Hello, any other questions for >> No, I I just need to hang up. Go ahead and hang up. >> Okay. Thank you. Have a great day. Bye for now. >> Uh bye-bye. Cuz I did get something from them the other day and I thought, "Ooh, who is that?" So, do you think that's a credit card? >> It is a check. That means a checking account had to be used, which means that the checking account number was entered. Which means that you entered the checking account number. >> No, I didn't. >> Well, you you did not enter the checking account number. >> Cuz that's how I was going to pay it, with my checking account. >> Okay, so why don't you uh >> But I >> show me how you paid your your thing. >> Okay. >> I assume you did it right there with your phone, huh? >> Yes, I did. >> Current balance is $0. Activity. >> This doesn't say >> Payment on 13th. Scroll up. Order number women's stuff. I mean, this isn't showing me >> No. >> the information I need to see. >> Does anything say Busy Bank on it? >> No. >> No card. >> It just says processed, it's processing, description payment, status processing, and the date that it was done. That's it. >> up. >> So. All right, so here's that. Okay, so >> So now, what's going on? Let's see. Uh >> [clears throat] >> What's his name? >> Aaron. >> Uh Aaron has accused me of using his dad's JCPenney card. >> Mhm. >> And I never did. >> So, he takes So, he takes care of a certain account. >> Right. >> Or his accounts his his finances in general because dad's suffering from uh the beginning of dementia Alzheimer's. So, he has power of attorney over his stuff. He makes sure that he utilizes certain things to pay certain things. >> Mhm. >> Um this account or apparently >> Wait. And that's doubtful account number? >> Mhm. Apparently so. So. >> But I didn't. >> But that means that's a checking account. And I would assume that at checking account you're going to enter the the full checking account to be able to make that purchase or process go through. At any rate, uh Aaron is interested in having you charged for fraud or theft of of the use of his father's informa- or name or money. So, that's where we're at. >> Hm. Want me to call John? >> No, I don't need you to call John. So, Aaron's Aaron's making the choices there. Um and I understand he doesn't He's told you and whatever he doesn't want you talking to his dad. >> He doesn't want anybody talking to his dad because I encouraged his dad to go over here to the lawyer >> Mhm. >> and file charges uh because he is does not have dementia. He's eccentric because he has so so much money and he smokes a lot of pot. That's all that's wrong with him. >> Okay. So. >> Well, should I get a lawyer? >> Only if I was to ask you any incriminating questions after I put you in custody, you can. That's up to you. You can make that decision. All right. Um [sighs] hm. Based off of everything I've got up to this point, I mean, I I have enough to place you under arrest, so I guess we'll uh go ahead and go do that and we'll place this in the state's attorney's office. Uh state's attorney's >> Oh, I can't go out like this. >> We'll place this in the state's attorney's lap and we'll see from there, okay? So >> Can I Can I get a shower? >> Uh no, we can't We can't do all that, so >> Can I call my >> What I can let you do is put some shoes on. So, let's put some shoes on. >> As is. Yep. >> I can't even throw any clothes on? >> No, ma'am. >> Well, that's >> Well, that's because I can't be following you around and throughout your house and making sure that you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. I've been down that road before and I've had bad experiences, so I'm not going to do that. I don't know you. I don't know that. >> So I don't know your intentions. I don't know anything So, what I need you to do is collect whatever items you need to collect, put your shoes on. You got some shoes right there, or some slippers, or something. It doesn't matter what you put on. I don't care. But we're not going to wander throughout the house and and go throughout the house and >> No, I can just put the clothes I had on yesterday. >> We're not doing that, cuz I [music] can't sit there and watch you put your clothes on, okay? So >> Is it possible that somebody Cuz I know it said the city bank paid that. I'm fine with that. I thought I could >> Well, let's get your shoes on and we'll walk out to my squad and I'll make a phone call. >> Okay. I wore my house slippers. Can I get a coat? >> No. You won't need one. You won't be outside. You'll be in my squad car. >> What do I need to take with me? >> I don't know that you need to take anything with you, really, other than No, pretty much nothing. >> My phone? >> You You can take your phone, yeah. >> Can I use it? >> Uh you can use it while I'm making my phone call if you need to. >> Well, let me call my friend. >> Well, let's go out to the car and you can call from out there. >> Okay. No, not not my friend Winnie. >> 128 141 25 this uh driveway got something to run past you. Do you need this door locked or anything? Just going to leave it standing open? >> Shut it. >> Just shut it? >> No, but but anyway phone can I use Well, if you could go to my house >> Yeah. >> front door's open >> Okay. >> and get me some clothes >> Okay. >> and underwear >> Okay. >> t-shirt >> Okay. >> You might need >> All right. Go ahead and un- or kill your phone there. So you save your battery. >> I'll I'll do this if you want. >> Let me double lock them so they don't clamp down on you. >> What's that mean? >> It just means I click this little thing. So like if you were to trip and fall, it doesn't squish your ankle your wrist. Ooh. >> Seems like you need to get a hold of them. The senior abuse people in Carlinville. >> In Carlinville? >> Uh-huh. >> Why Carlinville? >> I don't That's where they have the senior abuse thing. >> They have one at Montgomery County Health Department. >> Well, he John's already got a case going over there with them. >> You got anything else on your person you need? Can you step this way just >> some chapstick. >> Chapstick? Okay. Where's your chapstick at? This pocket? >> One of them. >> There it is. I know it's all tangled up in there. Yeah, we'll just get it from you at the jail. >> No problem. >> Keep searching through your pants for Montgomery 10-41. 10-41 dispatch. Female's 10-95. >> 10-4.