On February 28th, 2025, officers were dispatched to Walmart in response to an ongoing shoplifting incident. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> They didn't tell me they told me I was speaking with them about the reaction. I guess it needs to be as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm working in detail today specifically for shoplifting, retail thefts and whatnot. possible. I'm going to get your information and we're going to go from there. Okay. >> All right. >> 2012 go with my crippled friend right in the wheelchair. >> Say that again. >> I get to go with my crippled friend that's in the wheelchair. Right. >> Well, let's get your name and information first. And so, go ahead, take a seat for me. Do you have an ID on you? >> Yes. >> So, what' you guys see? >> So, I was was one that uh that washed. So, we saw what we thought to be concealment in electronics, but we didn't have confirmation on it. We saw concealment again in pets. Didn't have confirmation. Couldn't see the product actually entering the bag. Uh so, we followed her up to the uh the top, please. >> Uh whenever she got to the SCOS, we watched her scan a few items and then put everything else into bags uh without bringing it up while she exited her last point of sale. So, we made the stop and then uh we just filtered through the receipts that she did have for the stuff uh that we watched her just put directly in the bag, pulled it off the shelf, put in the bag and uh they're getting the training receipt right now from it. >> Okay. There wasn't anything taken directly estimated amount. >> So, I just talked to uh and he told me that it's at least over $300. >> Okay. >> So, they should have that soon. I would imagine they should be at the last portion of it. >> Okay. All right. Cool. Thank you. >> Yeah. No problem. Sorry, they just got tied up on something. So, it's going to be just a second before I get their information. Do you live here in Carbondale, Kelsey? >> Because the machine that I rang most of my stuff up with, they said that it wasn't cash, that it was card. So, by the time we went back over there, whenever she did that, I didn't have time to ring up anything else in my card. >> But you had eight items on your receipt and you had way over more eight items. So, you should have known. And I And I could have, >> but you didn't. >> If I could have done it with >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ma'am, >> let me talk. >> No, you're going to stand up. >> Let me talk. Turn around. Turn around. >> Am I going? >> Come on. We need to talk and figure some stuff out, but you're not going to talk over us right now. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, they have video of everything, so that'll make it easy. >> All right. like two things like >> face the wall for me. >> All right, Kelsey, you want to take a seat for me? >> Mhm. >> So, Kelsey, you are under arrest for retail theft. Okay. They have the itemized receipt and it looks like it was over $500. All right. So, that is a felony amount. So, you will be going back to the police station with me. Okay. >> And then after the police station, where >> probably to jail >> for the weekend? >> Most likely. Yeah. This is a felony arrest. >> I know, but I don't have any of my medication or anything. >> Okay, I'll notify the jail. Do you have your epipen? Is that correct? >> No, it's not epipen. I take like 30 minutes. >> Okay. Well, whoever you live with or someone you can call to go to your house, they can always bring the medication up to the jail. >> Okay. I've got to talk to my I've got to talk to my friend >> who is paralyzed. He's going to about to be the one to go to my house. >> Okay. Well, we'll get in contact with him. All right. >> Yes. So, what made this all of a sudden me being in jail all weekend? >> Because this is a felony. >> Okay. >> Mhm. Felony arrests go to jail for incarceration. >> Is any of this paid for? >> Yeah, that's all I thought was paid for. >> What's not for outside the door? >> Cool. >> I need someone to go find Jim. He was down at the last >> He was going out the last Jim. He's in a wheelchair. He's an older man. I've got to tell him what's going on. >> He's at service. >> No, I need to tell him cuz I need to tell him to get my medication so I don't see the police car. We don't have to tell him. Come down. We told him what was going on. >> Nope. Sit down for me. Can I put my paper? Um, go on, mother. >> Okay. >> You just broke my thumb. >> Oh, no. All right. What did you want to put in there? >> My receipt. >> Okay, I'll put in there. >> You just broke my thumb. >> I already have it all up. >> Do you not understand how bad I have seizures and congestive heart failure? You don't. >> Because when you put me in there, you don't give me the medications. None of them do. >> You're able to clear from 406 with her 295. So it's not her first time. >> She stole $4,000. >> She didn't trespass too. So she just reached a trespass. That's another charge. >> I think a lot of criminal trespass to that is 3,900. >> So is that like all the Walmarts together? Is that just branch or >> trespass? He really, really did break my thumb. >> The old man that I'm with is not trespassed. He just got out of >> here. >> He just got back into Carbonville from two years being in the federal joint. >> So, how is he trespassed? >> So, you're arresting him, too? >> He's not in trouble, correct? that >> he's not in trouble. Correct. >> Answer me. >> I don't know. >> All right, Kelsey. We're going to go out to my car. My partner just showed up and so he'll come in and take the door. >> You can if you want. >> I need to talk to him. >> I'm just going to take her back in front. >> I need to talk to him about my medicine. Okay, great. We'll get your medicine. >> No, you guys don't in Murphy'sboro. And he then you don't ever give it to me and then I seize for nothing but an hour a week straight. >> Can you tell me that guy's name again? >> What guy? >> The guy that you that was waiting on you. >> Jim. >> Jim. >> Yes. >> What's Jim wearing today? >> He's in a wheelchair. >> Okay. What's >> an older man? >> He's tan jacket. >> Okay. And he has access to your house to get the medication. >> Yes. Okay. Then I'll go talk to him. >> Okay. I need to talk to him myself. >> No, you can call him when we get back to the PD. That's fine. >> I can't call him. He don't have a phone. >> Okay. Well, I can't let you speak. >> He just got out of feds. I I can't speak. I can't He has no phone. I have to speak to him verbal to verbal. >> Is that guy that was with her? He also has prior too with Walmart and he also is trespassed. Okay. Um I don't know if the man is paralyzed. I mean he was moved. >> Do you want me to try to find him to try? >> He's at the He was at the service desk. >> Do you want me to try to find him to offload the stuff so he doesn't have to go to jail >> or is this going to jail? >> Um this I don't really care about this going to jail. She keeps complaining she has medications and that Jim needs to get the medication. So, I'm wondering if this gym guy, if you wouldn't mind asking him, he has access to our house and so you can take the gym. >> Yeah, exactly. He can drop off the mosa. >> Perfect. >> Cool. All right, show me who >> Thanks. >> So, why am I the one that's being stuck? >> Because you were the one that was caught shoplifting. >> I wasn't caught shoplifting. I was trying to use the machine. It was broken. That's why I had to take it to the card reader. If we hurry, am I able to get in front of the judge today? >> No, you can't see the judge today, but you'll be able to see them Monday >> at 1:30 >> or 9 a.m. >> I don't know what time roll call is, but or jail call, but I think it's sometime in the morning. >> I knew as soon as they said to walk this way that they were going to find some way to lock me up the weekend. It didn't matter what was paid for, what was not. They were going to find some way to wake to um lock me up the weekend. The machine don't work. I used a scan gun. If your scan gun is not working when you pull the trigger and it's right over the bars, that is not my fault. Can you ask around at least when we get there to see if I could get get to go to court at 9 on Monday? >> You can ask them. >> Ask who? >> The jail staff. >> Nope. Stay standing up. Face off. >> I'm going to have a heart attack. I need my nitro stuff out of my purse. >> Okay. Okay. >> My heart is hurting really, really bad. That's the reason why I sat down. >> Okay, then you tell me that. Okay. Going to read your no rights. Kelsey, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say. Carbonale 406. >> Can you get EMS in route processing for a possible seizure? >> Kelsey, you awake? Here you go. Why don't you sit up for me? Okay. Blue. Blue. Don't stop it by itself. Okay. We're going to wait for EMS to get here. Okay. They'll come check you out. Anyways, as I was saying, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to consult an attorney and to have that attorney present during question by police. >> Sign in the computer here. I'll help you. >> We already had one. >> This one I would just worry about the offense which we're going to do. Felony retail theft and trespass and subjects. We'll just fill her information out. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I need to clear my >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Just a future question because it's already felony amount, but does that still count as >> there's a conviction on that to >> bomb? I'd have to look, but usually forgery is some type of uh >> no forgery was is working with our registered that has nothing to do with anything to do with stealing or >> what was it? Explain the 17 charges you got for forgery. The 17 charges is because manel was behind three months and he gave me paperwork to do on his charges which was mental handicap and he had me fill me had me fill me fill them all out and they all were forgery documents because of that reason. Why? Because they were being switched over to computers. >> Yeah. I didn't know if that was like one of them. You know, >> there are certain things. >> Yeah. Like burglary or whatever. >> Sit back. I want to have a seizure. Just sit back. I'm trying to keep >> back. So, sit back and you won't fall forward. You're trying to make yourself fall. Sit back. >> I'm not trying to make myself fall, sir. I don't want busted up anything. >> Okay. So, sit back. >> Oh my god. All right, Kelsey. Whenever you're done talking to him, we'll get your photo and fingerprints and then we'll be good to go. Okay. >> Okay. I'm going to go ahead and go. >> You didn't understand Miranda, which is fine. Do you want me to explain Miranda again or do you understand your Miranda? All right. >> I understand now. Okay. I can >> cuz you're more than welcome. You don't have to, but you can tell me your side of the story of like what happened at Walmart today. >> Um he's the one that got all my stuff and all. Um we paid in the back, we paid up front and the stuff um he told me um that he had already had someone ring it up. I just had to ring up the dresses that she had to take off the couple clips off of everything else would have already already rung up in the cart. So, you're saying Jim is the one that was like, "Hey, I already paid for this stuff and kind of like set you up." >> Yeah. >> Do you mind telling me why you didn't tell us that in the first place? Cuz I think before you said the machine wasn't working. Well, the machine wasn't working and I had to go um uh the for the cash it wasn't working and I had to go over to um the lady and I expected that he was going to be there to at least do damage control or at least pay or at least say >> Mhm. we're going to put this stuff back or whatever. >> The woman was charged with felony shoplifting.