On March 30th, 2025, officers were dispatched to Walmart for an active shoplifting incident involving a woman previously trespassed multiple times who had returned to steal again. >> What's going on? >> I have a female that we've caught stealing here before. She's been trespassed twice out of here. >> Okay. >> And I just watching her. >> Okay. >> Wait for you guys. >> What's she doing now? >> She has a cart full of stuff. She's marking merchandise off like you can see the black. >> Okay. All right. Where's she at? >> Uh she is currently on by. >> Okay. So if I mean she's been trespassed for me already. I think I'm just going to address this now instead of letting her you know obviously just deal with that. Especially we're 10 minutes till shift change, >> right? >> Yeah. No, you're good. You're good. I figure so this is something I can address now and >> I didn't know about it until I called you guys. Yeah. >> No worries. No worries. Yeah. And uh the district officer is out in the parking lot dealing with a whole another thing. So >> Oh, okay. >> It's a It's a busy day. So, >> it shouldn't take too long. She I think last night she was pretty compliant. So, >> okay. >> I think she's high because she knows who we are and still back there. >> Wow. >> Yeah. I stopped her before. >> Mhm. >> She looked straight at me and just Ashley. >> Yeah. with it's >> her last name >> Oh, okay. Yeah, that sounds >> you know off chance when she was trespassing there. >> I haven't pulled up my >> Okay, no worries. >> Two different ones. I have one from March. >> Is that her? >> No, no, she's wearing a face mask, too. >> Okay. >> Will you make your way to the back of the store? We're near the restrooms. >> Apparently, just the stuff she's took. Yeah, she's >> apparently and tossed it back back in there. >> Okay. >> Like I don't know the officers last time when uh we got her shopped. I don't know if he checked the purse or not cuz he had her go outside. >> Okay. Do we know where she was? It was like in a purse where she tucked all that stuff. >> A book bag. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I think it's still in her cart. >> Okay. Is that her cart right there? >> Yeah. >> She's been marking the barcodes and she >> Okay. She's been here two times before and each time last time was like two grand of her stuff. >> Jeez, >> that's ridiculous. Okay. Do you know if she came here in a vehicle or she >> um >> not sure? >> I'm not sure. She probably did. >> Okay, no worries. >> Yeah, I think she did. Last time they thought they had she had like a driver so she was ready to go but apparently she didn't. So, okay. >> I think she got a vehicle. >> Okay. >> Did she go to jail the last time? >> I have no clue. I don't. >> Yeah, we'll have to probably put that. >> I know. I wanted to know. I wait I watched her for 3 and 1/2 hours of my shift. >> Wow. >> It was $2,100, but it was right at 11:00 when we were closing >> and I wait I stayed over an hour just watching. >> Right. Right. Jeez. >> Yeah, I know. I was mad. I didn't get an hour I didn't get back. I I don't want overtime. >> Right. No, I'm getting >> She is third stall. >> How you doing? I ain't seen you like forever. >> Third stall. Um, she's going to have these the stuff >> bag >> and most likely in her book bag. >> Did she not leave the book bag in here? Cuz I didn't see her grab it into the bathroom. >> I don't see it in here. >> Oh, she did? >> Um, >> she apparently she trespassing her last time. She says she tears the tag off because she didn't want it to beep at the door. So, is this what we're looking at then? >> Well, this is what she did. There's nothing on them. So, we're assuming >> Well, she probably has concealed at least. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But she's at least that. >> Yeah. So, she's been trespassed previously. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm going to >> She was trespassed when I stopped her, but I didn't know that. >> Hey, Ashley. It's Officer Engles with the police department. You need to come out. >> Okay. Well, hurry it up. My body camera's on as well. So, once she comes out here, I'm going to uh actually >> I need to go check this doll. >> Anyway, um I'll have to go check this doll. So, I'll go ahead and bring her out here. I'll go check this doll and then I'll ask her about her backpack and everything. >> There's some makeup products in This is definitely that was open. >> This looks like a shirt tag. [Music] >> Awkward football. I don't know where she hit it or >> this is what she did. So, she was walking around. What do you got? >> Yeah. >> So, this is the one I don't know if you were working. I did traffic stop her because she was calling this a DUI from Portland. I stopped her on veterans. >> She's got that disease. >> Oh, >> I put I put her daughter to shop with a hero. >> Okay. because of that. >> Okay. >> So, this is who this is. >> So, do you think there's a bit of it's a cognitive disease? Like there's some sort of like she's just >> she knows exactly what she's doing. She just loses control of her her functions and stuff. >> Okay. Okay. Got it. Got it. Do you have anything in your backpack that you haven't paid for? No. >> That you've taken out of packages? >> No. >> Okay. Do you mind if I look? >> It's mine. I need >> Okay. They've got you on video. All right. So, you just might as well cooperate. It's going to be a lot better for you. >> I don't steal anything. I didn't take anything out of packages. I didn't do anything. >> Okay. Go ahead and have a seat there. >> Yeah, you can use that one. Yeah. [Music] I'm not afraid to go through this crap. So, not sure if you think I am, but Okay, go and get your backpack. Come with me. Go to the right. Just come over here. Do you want to go look at the video? >> Look at the video. I can >> Yeah, I mean >> I can. >> We don't need to do that. I'll just arrest her for trespassing. We can search back up cuz she's refusing. >> Okay. >> So, that's how we'll do it. >> All right. That's fine. I'm going to >> put these in that package. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Give me your sweatshirt. >> Can you take the backpack off, please? >> So, they did verify she has been trespassed. >> They said dispatch did not. >> They did not see >> pulled up on our system. >> I forgot. >> You forgot you were trespassed. >> You were told that you were trespassed from here. >> Yeah. And I forgot. >> Okay. All right. Go ahead and turn around. You're being arrested for criminal trespass cuz you are not supposed to be here at Walmart. >> Be careful with my library. >> Okay. >> Okay. Do you have anything on your person that you shouldn't have? Anything on your body? Nothing? >> No. >> Okay. >> All right. We're going to head up to the security office. >> Okay. You want it? You want it? Yeah. You want me? >> Okay. So, speak up just a little bit for me so I can hear you. But so, >> what was the intentions today? [Music] >> Okay. So, you were going to purchase the stuff that was in the cart, but yet the other stuff you were not. That's why all the tags are off of the boxes are off of them and they're in the I didn't take no boxes out of nothing. >> Okay. >> I had my book bag was closed. I didn't take anything out of no packages. I didn't open nothing. >> Okay. >> Just the clothes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So, all the tags that were in that um sanitary thing, those >> are the clothes that are in your backpack. >> Yes. >> Right. Okay. >> Do you want to go through all that? And I'm going to go ahead and go do my notice to appears for the criminal trespass and the retail theft. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yep, that works. >> I'll take care of this. You can disregard I'm just going to release her on a couple notice to appears. >> Okay. Well, what I'm doing right now is I'm trying to I'm trying to uh put everything down in a way where I can show that tags were ripped off. >> Oh, okay. >> Do you have someone getting a training receipt for like all of those that we have that were torn off? Do you want me to? You can. >> I I would say Yeah. >> Okay. >> Cuz I think there's a retail theft charge for removal of >> So, you want all the tags? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Do you mind just hanging out with her till Billy gets done? >> Oh, yeah. Did that photograph. You need me to photograph the alley car? >> I don't No, I don't think so cuz we don't I don't have anything. She didn't go past last point of sale. She had concealed this in her backpack >> in the restroom. >> She saw these stuff. >> Yeah. Everything was in there. >> Okay. So, I got up there and they they found the balls for this. >> Okay. >> So, I found that one, >> right? These are unknowns, though, so I don't know. >> Okay. >> There's a tag. That's something that I can probably look up. >> Okay. That look Yeah, that's a clothing item. Missy flow shirt. Black. >> What? >> Yeah, they watched you on camera. >> No. >> Take these out of the box. >> No. I did not. >> Well, where are they? >> I didn't touch anything. >> Okay. So, we want to answer questions about those boxes. I mean, they watched you take the items out of it. >> I didn't freaking touch the damn things >> and they watched you do it. >> I don't care what they said on camera. I didn't touch nothing like that. >> They're closing the card for the car. >> I did not touch or open anything. >> $102. >> I don't even know what the it is. [Applause] >> Okay. Did you take pictures and send them in for me? >> I haven't sent them in yet. Um I will when I get back out from the car. >> Okay. So, >> apparently this is all the stuff that she had concealed in her backpack. So, I just took photos of these. Yep. >> I'm not sure I don't think you took photos of those, but I can't. >> It's not necessary. >> Okay. >> Um because Yeah. I mean that stuff didn't the stuff Yeah. the stuff that the tags were taken off of and >> coming up here for me sign that I gave them to you. Your court date on both of these is going to be April 28th at 9:00 in the morning. Okay. Two misdemeanor charges. One for the uh criminal trespass and one for the retail theft. You have everything that's yours now. You got your sweatshirt and stuff? Everything. Okay. All right. >> You're going to be on your record. They sure are. Go ahead and sign right there for me. Just shows that I've explained the court date and what your charges are. Okay. And you are trespassed from here. Again, we have it in our records as well. Okay. These are your copies. Um, like I said, April 28th at 9:00 for the two charges. Okay. You can grab your back. A little over two weeks later, the woman returned once again. >> Hecker. She's marked out tags quite a few times previously and has been trespassed >> at least once. She's over by the fitting room, I believe. >> Okay. >> Do you know her name? >> I don't. Um, sorry. >> Our AP was tied up on a phone call. So, one of our who has dealt with her before >> Mhm. >> is over with that observing. Yep. Observing. I know. We've asked her to leave multiple times before and I know that she has 30. >> Okay. [Laughter] >> Right here. >> Hello. Okay. Hello. Hey. So, do you have an ID on you by chance? >> No. >> What's your name? >> I don't have one. >> You don't have a name? Ma'am, can I talk to you for a second? Can I see what she steal the bag? >> Ma'am, can I talk to you? >> Man, she's walking back towards the entrance. >> My phone's in my phone's in the car. >> Okay. All right. Hey, ma'am. >> I'm not talking to you. >> Did she Did she >> We're back by the fitting rooms by the jewelry section now. All right, ma'am. Hey, I need to talk to you. >> You're not talking to nobody. >> I need to talk to you because look, >> I'm not talking to nobody. >> Ma'am, >> let go of me. >> I'm having difficulties with it. Ma'am. Ma'am, can you talk to me? >> Nobody. Let go of me. >> Just talk to me. >> No. Let go of me. >> All right. Let go of me right now. >> By customer service. Let go of me. >> Ma'am, please identify yourself. >> No. >> Let go of me. >> All right, I'm gonna walk you to the entrance. Okay. >> Let go of Let go of me. >> Walking back towards the entrance. I walked in. >> Let go of me. >> Just identify yourself. >> No. Let go of me. >> All right, we're going to go to the entrance. [Music] >> Right here. >> All right. Stop. Stop. Let go me. >> I'm done with this. I'm done. >> Let go of me. >> Talk to me. What's What is your name? >> Let go of me. >> Let go. >> Put your hands on your Put your hand. >> I didn't know. >> Do you know that you just smacked me? >> Yeah, because you wouldn't let go of me. >> Okay. Well, that's Seline police officer. Where's your ID at? >> You don't have an ID? You don't have a name? >> That's okay. We'll figure it out. >> Okay. >> Can you pick my phone up and put in my pocket? >> If you want to grab it. >> Yeah. Will you grab it? >> Yeah. >> If you identify yourself or you make this difficult, you're going to end up going to jail and stay there until you can figure out who you are. Stop right there. Put your up against the car. >> Our cameras are on. Spread your feet apart. >> More. >> Is there anything on you that's going to poke me, stick me, hurt me, or is illegal? >> No. >> Okay. Bring this foot towards me. Lean forward. Can you unbuckle it? I can't. It's stuck. [Music] She refused to stop for you. >> Yep. Wouldn't identify yourself. Smacked me >> cuz you wouldn't let me go. >> Because you wouldn't identify yourself. >> I'm going to temporarily release this hand. I need you to not move or resist me. Okay. They're digging into my wrist. >> I'm working on it. >> Hold on. You're going to strap it back in. >> Let go of your hand. >> Can you Where's it? Let go of your hand. >> Oh. If you relax, it'd hurt way less. >> Once again, is there anything on you that's going to poke the stick or is illegal? >> Your car unlock it. Take a step back. Take your feet apart. Big and wide. Big and wide. You have both on. I'll just switch places when you're done. Okay. >> You have no idea. No. Um, >> are you going to tell me your name? >> Yeah. >> Huh? >> Yeah. >> What's your name? >> Ashley. >> Ashley? What? >> What? >> How old are you? >> 38. >> One more time. >> 38. >> 38. [Music] Have >> a seat. It's audio video recorded in the back. Okay. Can you pick my vape up for me? >> Yep. Go get it. >> You don't want to tell me why why you want to identify yourself in Walmart? Okay. Correct. Okay. Here's your um what they what did he say? >> He just said that he rec I got his info. I'll send it to you. He said that he recognized her as being trespassing here before. Um didn't make contact with her till you got here and then anything that you have. >> Let's shut the door. >> Okay. >> So, what h like can you just explain what happened? >> Yeah. So, I approached her. said, "Hey, um, what's your name? Do you have an ID on you?" I don't have a name. I don't have an ID. I said, "Okay, well, we're going to walk to the front." She said, "All right, I'm leaving anyway." Um, >> so I wasn't going to put hands on her until I got close to you. That's why I was trying to get you over there. And then that's when you showed up. Negative. When you showed up, I put my hand on her. She slapped me. >> Okay. I I was just watching her. How did she slap you? >> Oh, she slapped me right here. >> Okay. >> Um, are you charging her with the aggravated battery? >> I would. >> I would. I'm going to. >> Yep. >> I planned on it unless you told me otherwise. >> Nope. I would do the aggravated battery and the trespass. Um, even tag her for resisting arrest cuz we grabbed on to her. >> Yeah. >> So, um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that slapping you after you put hands on her to get her to stop would be resisting arrest. So, >> yep, might as well. >> Okay. >> So, yeah, those three >> detainable, >> they won't be detainable, but we'll send we'll take her there and >> give her notice to peers. >> So, obviously make sure to fill out your booking form and your notice to appears. >> Yep. And then uh I've never done this with I wasn't here during CO. How do I know this is her? I can't see her face. >> I mean, she has her ID. She's saying that's who she is. >> Okay. >> That's what we have to go with right now. >> Okay. >> She wearing a mask. >> Yeah. She's got a co mask on. >> Yeah. I was trying to >> She wasn't like super fighting, so I wouldn't say we need to do it RTR. We just grabbed on to her and put her hands behind her back. After that, she was compliant. >> Yeah. >> I wouldn't do I wouldn't do the resisting arrest, but I mean, if she's she's smack you, I would say we do her on the battery. Okay. cuz it's not like she was actively trying to get once we put hands on her, she was mostly compliant. She was just like, "Get off me." >> She was trying to get away from me from the jump, but I was basically escorting her until I found you. >> Yeah. But I mean, at that point, she didn't know she was under arrest at >> correct. Yep. >> But yeah, battery and trespass. >> Okay. The woman was charged with battery on a peace officer and criminal trespassing once