That's not good at all. For weeks, neighbors and family members had lost contact with 69year-old Cynthia Barenzan. But right now, officers have just discovered her body inside her own home. And as they break the news to her family, >> she was found in the shower. What's suspicious to me is the way she was found. So, we don't know if she was cleaning and that happened to her. Investigators will spend hundreds of hours investigating Cynthia's murder only to find out the killer was much closer to home than they ever thought. >> Your mom's deceased? >> Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> Your mom's deceased? >> And very soon, Dylan will be tricked into a confession, revealing horrifying secrets and the reason behind Cynthia's murder. >> I just went in the room. I looked at her. I gave her a big old hug and I I'm not a bad person. I'm not a bad person. In my heart, I really felt like I was doing this right. >> On November 21st, 2022, police in Las Cusus, New Mexico, responded to a home to conduct a welfare check. 69-year-old Cynthia Baren hadn't been seen in weeks. And not only that, but there had been more troubling signs that things were very, very wrong. Her car was discovered in Chula Vista, California, right along the border into Mexico. Inside were her four dogs, dogs who she loved and never would have abandoned. The following footage was provided to us by the Lasus Police Department who as they arrived for the welfare check have just received yet another troubling piece of the puzzle. A call from Cynthia's bank. And the weird thing is too, I heard from the bank, her bank right here, they they called two and they said, "Well, you know what? Her account's drained." >> Drained. >> Yeah. Everything's gone. And the only thing I can tell you was being pulled out ATM at Walmarts and everything that was pulled out at the ATM. Uh it looked like it was just pulled it out. I know said they did the same thing and this is all they could see. I remember before he said I could just see that the lamp in the living room was on. I couldn't see anything else in disarray. I can kind of hear like if there was like a television on or something. This is everything. >> But they never made it inside last time. >> No, they said that they checked everything was locked, windows. >> So they just found her car abandoned with her dogs in there. >> Mhm. >> In San Diego, >> I guess younger or that son Cory was calling L2 this morning. And then when the bank called me, I called L2 like, "Hey, this is what I have." And he's like, "We'll try to get more. I'll call C." Then when I saw this, I'm like, "Oh, snap. We got the key." So >> before the bar. >> Police obtain a key from a neighbor and crack open the door. Instantly, they're flooded with a smell of bleach, which is never a good sign, as you can tell by the detective's face. Police department. >> Police department. Everybody inside, can you come out with your hands up and ask you, please? Hold here. >> It's just >> Well, that's weird. >> Sounds like a TV though. >> Yeah. Just a note, we didn't add the creepy music in. That's courtesy of the television, which has been playing to an empty house for several weeks at this point. >> Please. Why is it so creepy? Charlie, the door's locked, bro. I got one over here. Cabinet's all empty. Patrick's empty. >> After searching the majority of the house, detectives return to the one room that they're unable to enter. A room that is locked. And what waits beyond the door? Well, it's clear that they have their suspicions at this point. Seems like >> I got it. >> Huh? >> Got it. >> Oh [ __ ] [Applause] based on a whole public and I asked the question to Ray and once again he didn't answer. I should be purchasing Americans that are anonymous and then using technology to penetrate them. >> Huh? >> Oh, that's not good at all. >> Well, that's code 24. >> Yes, it is. >> Code 24 in Donna County means suspicious person, scene, or activity. Inside the shower, police have discovered Cynthia, deceased and severely decayed. The detective sentiment is that the scene is code 24 as a fox couldn't be more accurate. They're left with two possibilities. That she was put in the shower fully clothed, or that she succumbed to a heart attack or something similar while cleaning inside of it. However, after they break the devastating news to Cynthia's siblings and one of her sons, Cory, it becomes apparent in the following conversation that they have big questions. all surrounding her son Dylan, who she had a tumultuous relationship with and who was seen at her house before her death. >> Um, David Castillo, brother. Mike Caspia, brother. >> I'm sorry for your loss. Um, I am the head detective on the case. My partner is still coming back from Albuquerque. He did give me a call. He let me know that there's nothing suspicious. So, um, there's, you know, he did have a lot of heart issues that they could see in the autopsy. Oh, that's what they're thinking. >> Natural causes. >> Natural causes. What's suspicious to me is the way she was found. Um, so either way, we're still looking for Dylan. Um, she was found in the shower. Uh, she was tested, >> so we don't know if she was cleaning and that happened to her. Uh, we had no reports. He could have called us, told us what happened. House is empty. Um, >> the house was empty. >> There's no blankets, uh, no cleaning products, no food. So, again, very suspicious. You know, that's why we looked at it as a possible murder because we didn't know what we had. Uh, we were out there for forever. Probably got up around 2:00 in the morning. Um, so now what I did this morning is I got a subpoena for her bank records. We go to the bank records, how much is missing, when those transactions were made. >> Okay. >> So, that's going to take a while cuz I'm asking for 6 months back so we can look at a pattern and who's taking out money. >> Do you know how long she may have been? Did the autopsy show when she might have passed? you know. >> So, because of her decomposition, um like I said, she was found in the shower and the shower was leaking water. So, that kind of threw us off on the time of death, but we're guesstimating the 14th. >> Still waiting for anything from the autopsy? >> Uh not on the autopsy. I did collect some bugs that might be able to tell us a little bit more of the time of death. That's also going to take some time. Um, so it's basically a waiting game right now with the >> when she passed away, if she passed away right away, you know, like >> we don't know. >> I mean, we have to wait. So, what the autopsy right now tells us, they kind of give us like a summary. And so, in a few weeks, I'm hoping I'll get the full report and then that's when all the details will will come in. But as far as suspicious, there's nothing right now that indicates. >> So Dylan is being treated as a what? >> Interest. >> So right now I'm looking at as a financial crime >> for that >> crime, >> but also why was he there? So yeah, he was certainly know everything, >> you know, and we need to talk basically and see what his story is. >> Um, but the records take time. >> So >> yeah, you just said weeks before you get some stuff back. That's how long it takes. >> And so we'll see when the bank also boards me everything. Like I said, it's 6 months of setup that I'm asking for. So it's going to take a while. >> We didn't even know. We didn't know that Dylan was our gym. We were not told. We know that at some point she had a protective order. >> She does have it active. The issue is that she will let him back in. >> Yeah, exactly. And that's probably why she never told us because it would have >> right. >> Cynthia and Dylan's relationship was far from healthy. And that combined with how the house was left behind very clearly has her family on edge. Wow. >> I mean, isn't that extremely strange? >> That's why we take >> Why take things >> the way we did? >> Like, is there is there other previous cases where why would you take all the things? >> I My theory my theory is that he want the refrigerator with smell and and the reason he took the dogs barking. Um That's just >> yeah don't make sense to me taking the dogs. He knew he knew that he didn't want her found. Why take the dogs? >> Yeah. So that you see the house shows natural causes but natural causes the house clean >> and she's dressed in the shower. >> Yeah. Well, so what I'm thinking is she was cleaning or something. I mean there's a couple theories. She was cleaning. She had a stroke. He found her. He's out. He didn't advise anybody. He just cleaned everything. So there's no trace of him. Another theory is they got into a fight which caused the stroke >> and he took off. >> Is it >> possible that he would have put her in the in the shower? >> No, because there's no no bruising. No, you know what I mean? Nothing that indicates she was grabbed. She was forced. >> She been pushed. >> No head trauma. >> I'm saying maybe she was dead already. He put her in there. >> That's what I'm saying. Yeah. like he either moved her and put her in there or she was cleaning and it happened and he found her. We could go we could what if it >> but it's it's just strange all around that why wouldn't he just report it once he's gone. So, there's a lot of questions that we have, >> questions that unfortunately took detectives quite some time to find the answers to because Dylan was missing and initially they believe that he was hiding out in Tijuana, Mexico. And Dylan was in Mexico, just not the old one. Police discovered him in Lascus and fortunately, due to several outstanding warrants for crimes unrelated to his mother's death, they were able to bring him in for questioning. How's >> he doing? I think you'll be fine, right? >> Thank you. >> All right. So, I'm Detective Melinda. Uh, this is Detective. >> What's up, guys? >> Chilling. >> So, we want to come talk to you. Um, we're investigating some stuff, but we want to just kind of get some basics from you. >> I know you got picked up the other day here, right? >> I think it was trafficking or something like that. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So obviously since you're in custody, we're not related to to anything of that, but obviously because you're in custody, right? Some randings. Make sure you understand those. Okay. >> Dylan is acting more like he's out for coffee with a buddy than he is being interrogated. Don't worry, it doesn't take long for that to change. But there may be a reason for his lax demeanor. After all, this isn't Dylan's first rodeo. Since 2015, he's racked up several charges for possession of controlled substances, DWIs, traffing substances, and domestic battery. Detectives read him his rights. After all those arrests, you'd think he'd be smart enough to ask for a lawyer, but well, look at that dumb smile. >> Uh, you want to talk to us once we get into everything about what we're here for? >> Sure. >> Okay. Um, let's just confirm your date of birth. >> Where are you currently staying? >> I'm homeless, actually. I was actually in the process of actually getting an apartment this Monday. >> Oh crap. Where at? Uh either off of Fleming, Missouri or I was looking at the apartments off Telshore. >> Okay. Nothing specific. >> No, just been looking around. >> It was all up in the air. >> Um before how long have you been homeless? >> I'd say about five about five months. >> Five months. Prior to that, where were you living? >> Uh I was staying with uh my friend. >> Okay. And who was that? >> Um I don't really have to give a name. >> Okay. Um in the city or in the county? And what's really Donian is like more out, right? >> County. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Then in the city. >> Okay. Um and prior to that, where were you staying? >> Um let's see. With my friend Cassie. >> Cassie. Okay. And prior to that, >> um pretty much kind of between her and Tom. >> That's the grimace of someone who's just realized they only lasted 24 seconds refusing to give police the name of their friend. In regards to anything else going on, you got picked up on this warrant, right? >> And then I guess you had a DWI that you got it from a while back. >> Okay. Um, at what point, um, when was the last time you lived with your mom? >> H [ __ ] >> Let's say I last talked to her probably about like October, Septemberish. >> It was the last time you talked to her. >> Yeah. I I stayed with her for like a week or so. That's about it. >> Okay. >> October, September. And how did that go? I know you guys had >> Yeah, we we >> tultuous past. >> Yeah, it was kind of always a conundrum with us. We've tried this and that. I haven't actually got to talk to her at all. I tried to call her, but I don't know like and then being on the streets, I I don't know. Just like it just got out of hand. I don't know how else to say. >> So, the last time And that's on that stress. Yeah. >> The last time you talked to her would have been October, September. >> Yeah, maybe like about maybe September 12th or something. >> September 12th. Why does September 12th stick out? >> Um, I don't know. Just given like a date in general. >> September 12thish. >> Okay. And what what caused you to leave? >> Uh, just uh us not having like you know how to say uh good morals anymore. We always been getting on each other's faces. Just being around each other. >> Good vibes together. >> Yeah. And then finally, like even when I saw her, she said, "Do you think I could probably stay here?" She's like, "I don't think it's a good idea." And I was just like, "All right." >> Okay. What What was the kind of the background of that? >> Uh, basically just my history of being a drug addict on the streets and this and that. You know, she gave me multiple times to try and this and that. I always failed and, >> you know, so just had to learn to live with it. >> Okay. What What was it like the last time you talked to her? >> It was all right. you know, we got for a minute and stuff and >> I don't know. I I could just feel that it wasn't really yet that time to like move back in and [ __ ] >> Uhhuh. >> Okay. Um, outside of that, did you guys have any other dealings, phone calls? >> Can't really say >> like supplement stuff. Did she send you money? >> Oh, no. Uh, the only other time she actually really helped me out was I was last locked up. Um, was it 2020? She put a $100 bail on me >> and then I continued with court and then I turned myself in to do those three months and then we tried to reconcile then I stayed for like three days but within those three days it just showed like no way. Okay. But as far as that seep from September on she didn't funnel you money didn't give you anything any help at all or anything like that? >> No sir. >> Okay. So how would you >> get stuff? How would you pay for stuff? >> Well I actually get SSI. I'm because I'm disabled from cancer. Okay. >> I had what you call e-wing saroma/bone marrow cancer. >> So I had tumors on my pelvis and my hip. So I had my right pelvis and have my hip rem. >> Yeah. So even though I've been homeless, I've been able to, you know, pay for like say a hotel here and there. Get this saves what I need. >> And that's directly to you, right? >> Directly to me. Is that like through a card or? >> Yeah, I get it on my citizens bank. >> Okay. And it's your account. >> My account. Okay. Is she on that account at all? >> No. Okay. So, um, in regards to like, you know, having any additional contact, do you have any contact? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Cynthia did help out Dylan much more than he's conveying here. Despite literally everyone's insistent that she shouldn't. According to those close to Cynthia and Dylan, Dylan would frequently use his cancer to garner sympathy and money from his mother in spite of his cruelty and violence against her. Cruelty and violence that you will hear him continuously deny over and over. But court records don't lie. Even if Dylan is desperate to, >> have you made any trips like in the last year, out of state, out of country or anything like that? >> No. >> Nothing like that. Okay. Um, have you ever had access to your mother's cars? >> No. >> No. Okay. Um, so this is where it's going to get important where we talked about things um uh about basically your last contact with your mom. >> Okay. >> Okay. Your mom's deceased. >> Yeah. >> What do you mean? >> Your mom's deceased. >> You're bullshitting. >> No. So, >> how could she be deceased? >> Your mom was found November 21st of last year at her house. This is >> How the hell am I just hearing about this now? >> I don't know if you're just hearing about it now. That's what we're here to talk to you about. You've been gone in the wind for the last 8 months. Okay. So, the reason why we're asking you questions and we come here and we ask these specific things is because we're trying to lay out a timeline. Okay. And find out what's going on. And I already know you've told me a couple untruths. I'm going to call them lies yet, but you've already told me some untruths. So, it's important that we sit down and we talk and figure out what's going on. What happened? Did anything happen? Did you walk into something? It's excuse my language, but [ __ ] needs to be put on the table today. Okay? Because right now, I've got couple already from what you just told me in the five minutes I've been here. So, >> compose yourself and and let's talk. cuz you know I didn't just come in here out of the blue, right? >> Yeah. >> So, I need you to be straight with me as much as you can. Good, bad, indifferent, whatever it may be. It's today's the day. >> All right, here's the real scoop. Um, I wind up meeting this transgender online and everything and me and my mom, we went to go get her and stuff and we get there. I was living with mom for like the last year and stuff and whenever we were out doing our business and everything we came back and found her deceased and I knew I had warrants at the time so I didn't actually call anybody. I didn't know what to do and I first thought about fleeing the country but then I just I just didn't know what to do. >> Okay. So >> I cuz I had a key and everything and I opened the door, you know, and you know, I'm like knocking on my mom's door like, "Mom, mom, hey, I'm here. I'm here." Finally, I open it and everything and I see her and everything and I'm just like, "Mom, mom." I don't know. Maybe it was like maybe like three days cuz she was already like puffy and [ __ ] So that's pretty much the reality of it. I found a disease and I didn't know what to do. >> Okay. So tell me what you did do. I understand not knowing what you didn't know what to do, but what did you do? Like >> there's specifics and details that we know. >> Yeah, like the house was clean and stuff. >> Okay. What else? >> Um that's pretty much really it. I I was just so scared cuz I didn't want to get arrested >> and this and that. And that's pretty much really it. >> What do you mean by the house was clean? like I like wiped down the counters in case I had fingerprints and everything cuz I didn't want like to leak to me like it's like like as if I murdered her or something, you know? >> Um that's honestly that's as much as I can say. >> What else? >> And so I thought about what I did was I packed my car and everything to go to Tijana and I was staying with the transgender like I had her staying with me. I was like, "All right, we'll just flee the country and all this." And once we got to the border, uh, she said she needed to do something and I was like, "All right." Cuz we were going to take care of the dogs and everything like that. So, I wind up being a hotel in Tijana for about a week or so. And then something happened with her and the dogs. Then I had no money. I didn't know what to do. So, I came back in the States. And then I wind up going to the hospital. I was very like dehydrated from potassium and such. >> That's really just the real whole scoop. >> That is a scoop of something. A big heaping scoop of BS. It wasn't just the counters that were wiped down. The home had been thoroughly bleached, including the shower, floors, and the kitchen. All the food was taken out of the cabinets. And oddly, the silverware was stolen. After, in his version of events, he cleaned the house. Dylan fled to San Diego where he abandoned his mother's car with her dogs inside it and then fled across the border to Tijana. But he didn't stay there sipping margaritas with his transgender lover. >> We're going to kind of jump back and forth in places on that. So you when you end up down in Tijana, you you and you said the dogs. >> Yes. Yes. And shelters and everything. And so like I said, whenever I got in the house and everything, there was like [ __ ] everywhere and this and that, you know, cuz I like Like I said, I cleaned up and everything and make everything look nice and this and that. I said I was just so freaked out. I didn't know what to do. >> I just didn't know what to do. >> Okay. So, you you end up you this transgender. What was >> she Bianca? >> I don't know her actual real real name. Um, so you guys end up over there. You load up the car. You end up down with Tijana. Yeah. Actually, you guys cross? >> Yeah. Well, I crossed over. She said she needed to do something to make sure like her uh food stamps and everything was still able she was supposed to come back the next day. Then she wind up lagging. >> She kept the dogs, right? >> Yeah. She wind up lagging and then all of a sudden I hear that she gets arrested or something and then the dogs, I guess, were gone. And that's when I started like do I didn't know what to do. >> So then I just crossed back over and yeah, this is just something I've been just bound to happen. >> Yeah. So loading up the car. Describe what you loaded. >> Oh, just like you know necessities, uh, shower gel, clothes, pretty much that dog food and this and that cuz like Yeah. Like said we're going to go to Tijana. I was like I said warrants and this and that. I was like what do I do? I was like, do I just own it up like a man? Say I found her. I own it up like a man. So yeah, I just was freaked out. >> So So when you say necessities and stuff like that, describe the We were there, so we've seen everything. So describe the kitchen to me. >> The what >> kitchen? >> Uh it was fridge, cabinets. >> Yeah. Cleaned out and everything. Just emptied out all the food and this and that. I don't know. Just I didn't think of it wanted to spoil. I don't know. Just >> load it all into the car. Not all of it, just some of it, you know, to take on the trip. The other stuff that would just been left around, just threw it away >> into the trash can there at the house. >> Oh, no. Like uh like about like like like one of the dumpsters around pick and [ __ ] >> Okay. Um what about furniture, blankets, rugs, anything like that? >> Nothing with the living room. >> Oh, like I said like that, you know, shampooed it and everything. That's about it. >> You shampooed it? Yeah, cuz like I said, there's dog [ __ ] on it and everything. >> And then what'd you do with it? Because it's gone. >> Uh, threw it away. >> Where' you Where did you throw it? >> Um, pretty much like like the same like dumpsters around Pquid or the Circle K, the one on Soma >> by that car back there behind the car wash. >> Um, and you were you took her car. How did you get to her house? >> Uh, what's it called? Well, he said we were staying together and everything and uh it was actually I we was on I went and hang hung out with some friends for a few days and everything and with Bianca and everything and then that's when we came back and everything was just the dogs didn't like I said it was all the house smelled like [ __ ] and everything came back her door was locked but it's never locked and I unlocked it and everything and there was like horrible kind of smell already happening and then found her and >> I just panicked and freaked. I didn't know what to do. >> What did you do? Tell me what you did. >> You open the door to the house or to her bedroom. >> Yeah. You know, get into the house right away, right? >> No, cuz I you know her her door to her room was locked. I started like, "Ma, you good?" So like 30 minutes, you know, I was like, "Oh, she's probably just in the shower or something." And then that's I was like, "Mom, mom, mom." So then I open the door and everything. And then I start smelling something and I walk in the room and she's like just I see her in the shower. She's just there. I'm just like what the And then I just panic. I didn't know what to do cuz you know living there my fingerprints are everywhere. I just didn't know what to do. I just freaked out. >> Okay. What would describe what you did as far as cleaning others and wiping down the counters and stuff like that? >> Um you know just cleaning everything. Just like I said, everything, you know, like say, yeah, wiping off some of the furniture with like, you know, wet naps, you know, just cleaning the bathroom. >> It's pretty That's really So, what you're telling me is you found her in the shower. >> Yeah. >> Are you sure? >> Yeah. >> Nothing that I have is going to be indicative of her being put into the shower. I'm not a pro. I'm letting you either help yourself or dig yourself. >> Yeah. >> Does that make sense? >> So, I wouldn't ask questions if I didn't have an idea or an answer of what I'm asking you. That makes sense. >> And here's the thing. If it was something more than what you're already saying, now's the time to do it. Now's the time to repent or or confess, whatever it may be. But it's it's it can only get better for you if that makes any sense, but I need the truth from you, you know, and we can always come back and say, "Hey, this is the first time he's been confronted with the information." >> Looks like the detective is going home early today. It's not often that suspects completely shatter after you call out just one inconsistency in their story, but that's what Dylan's done. However, his new version of events is just about as ridiculous as his last story. Honestly, I you know, a lot of what I said is true. You already know the holes and everything. >> It's It was getting really bad for him, like healthwise, everything. Okay. My Okay. My stepfather truck, he had a pension or whatever, you know, big amount of money. All right. My mom was getting screwed around. She got scammed, you know. All right. Got scammed $100,000. She wasn't even supposed to touch it. her her friend who's a lawyer and everything was telling her like why did she touch it you know that she could actually face prison time and this and that and like I said her health was getting so bad and everything like every day was just a battle every day and I had to put up with so much [ __ ] and just I thought I was doing what I I thought I was doing the best for her cuz I never thought I could I can never see my mom in prison. Love my mom. I loved her. I didn't do it like to like try and get the house or anything. I only used them enough money that she had, you know, to be able to go to TA, start a new life and everything. And I just >> I just I I couldn't I couldn't handle her seeing it her being in pain anymore. I I just couldn't do it. >> And when the whole [ __ ] about her having to possibly face prison, I could never live with myself her that's that's when I was like, I'd rather did what I did and go to prison for however long I do than her have to suffer >> suffering the pain, the physical and the emotional side of that. So, let's talk about what happened. So pretty much um after we we drove actually all the way to San Diego with Bianca and she was living with us for about a month and I was just always like I I always thought in my mind like if she did wind up being able to get sentenced or something that I would do what I did cuz I couldn't never see her in jail. You know, I've been in jail before and this and that. She's one of those good people. She was always a good person. >> Your mom, >> she was a very good person. So, I was just so just one night I was I was just sitting on the couch cuz she was like just screaming in pain. She was just so pain. She was crying, you know, she's yelling at me, not yelling at me, but she's just yelling out, "What am I going to do? How do I get this money back?" cuz she got screwed over so hard by guy and like these scammers and [ __ ] and she was like just freaking out so bad and I'm like what how can I help? There's nothing I could do. So just I don't even know the date. I don't even know the date. I just went in the room. I looked at her. I gave her a big old hug and I strangled her to death. That's basically it. >> How? >> I just I hugged around her and I just held her as tight as I could around her neck. Just telling her I love her and I'm so sorry for this, but you'll it'll be better for you. It's going to be a lot worse for me, but it'll be better for you. >> Okay. Show me not show me but like detail to me how you walked into the room, how you held her, where she was at. >> She say she was just laying on the bed and everything. >> Sometimes, you know, I always would have like terrorists and stuff. So sometimes I would like, you know, go in the room and lay next to her and stuff. So she was just laying on the bed like normal and I was just I lay with her and then I don't know all of a sudden it just happened. I don't know what it just happened. It just happened. >> Were you front or behind? >> Like on the side like this. And I started doing it and then she started freaking out and then I had to like really like get in there and squeeze in her. And then finally when she finally when she like >> she fell on the ground. >> So were you standing or leaning? I at that point I was standing up because once I got up and everything she kind she just like fell over and stuff. >> Okay. >> When you basically began to to clutch her. You're both laying down on the bed. >> Is she is her back to you or is there >> She was like she was kind of like this and I was like on the side then when she started like freaking out that's when I kind of got more on top of her like that just around the neck. So more compression. Yeah. You think versus strength? I mean you said >> Yeah. It was like the first more like like that cuz I know probably the hand marks or that first more would start like like that. >> Do you do you have her more around the neck or around the upper chest area? >> I would say more like that. That's >> cuz I know I'm pretty sure it show like like my handrints are kind of like pushed in or something. >> Uhhuh. What a martyr. He killed his mother because, hold on, let me check my notes here. Because she was afraid of going to jail. Not only does his explanation make zero sense, but his mother wasn't at risk of going to jail and had never stolen or dipped into any money like he claims. There are only two truthful things he said. Firstly, that his mother was a good woman. Secondly, that he killed her. Everything else is a pathetic story he spun. One that detectives waste no time unraveling. >> What's going through your mind at this moment? >> All I'm thinking about that she's just going to be in a better place. That I'll suffer. I've suffered so much in my life. >> Mhm. >> What's in prison sentence? I've gone through cancer. My dad used to beat the [ __ ] out of me. My brothers never liked me because I was life on the streets. I basically did what I did because my life has been over for a long time. And like I said, I would rather have killed her than ever see her in prison. I would rather go to prison for the rest of my life knowing that in my heart I know what I did was wrong, but I give her >> Okay. >> She was in so much pain. >> Was she currently seeing a doctor? >> Doctors, dude. She been like with my cancer and [ __ ] It took 13 doctors until I got diagnosed just because I they just kept thinking I wanted dope. I have taken her to multiple doctors even just to get it and do that [ __ ] >> Okay, so we'll go back to basically she stops moving, you stand up, she falls to the floor. What happens? Honestly, I didn't touch her for like five days. I was just so freaked out. I didn't know what to I just I couldn't I didn't like it was it felt like it was it was a dream. >> Like I just kept thinking like she's going to wake up and then that's when it just hit me. I was like I got to flee the country. Like I got to get out of here, you know? And that's when like packed up all the packed up everything. The dogs uh drained her account, my account to have at least enough money to get a little startup over there. And >> let's let's jump there now. We're going to go back here in a little bit, but let's jump to the draining per account. >> How did you do that? Uh just like about it was like three or four times at like the ATMs just pulling out like say like leave like 800 or something at a time. >> And during this whole period of time where's beyond that >> with me? >> She was there when it happened. >> Well, she was in the other room. She didn't know what I did until I told her. >> How how after did you tell her? How long after? Like >> like about an hour cuz I was just sitting there next to her just >> So what was her response? She was freaked out >> cuz like I was always telling her I was like I was like I swear if she ever has to get sentenced I'm I'm going to I'm going to make sure she doesn't have to suffer that horrible fate. >> Um so this 5 days that you're at the house Bianca's aware of what's going on. Correct. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then you guys deise the idea to >> I did. You did? >> Everything was me. Okay. >> Everything. >> Um When you load up the car again, you take everything out again. The carpet was because of the dogs. >> Yeah. >> Or was there anything substantial to that? >> No, I just cleaned it just cuz it was just just to get rid of evidence. >> So when you decide to finally leave, what do you do with your mom? >> I thought maybe if I if I moved her into the shower, it would just look like as if she slipped and fell. >> Okay. And then what else did you do? What additional stuff did you do? placing her in the shower. >> Um, >> door open or door closed? >> Uh, I think I had the door the shower door open. I just kind of cranked the water a little bit. I walked out and then I locked the door. Said I loved her one more time. >> Did you do anything to her bedroom? >> Uh, just cleaned as much as I could. >> Okay. Describe the cleaning that you did. uh wiping down everything from the cabinets, bedspread, anything that could have had in my DNA. But it doesn't matter what it is. Anything is always going to be found >> other than wiping down. Did you move stuff around? Did you make the bed? Did you >> not? Um I think I made the bed or not? No, I think I left it undone like as if house she was sleeping on it. >> Did you vacuum? >> Yeah, like I said, I did everything. Vacuum, cleaned, tried to get as much as I could out. But I already knew it would really come back to me because everybody they knew I was living with her and all that. Like my brothers don't like me. Her family doesn't like me. She was the only one that was ever my side about everything. Especially when the whole domestic violence [ __ ] happened and I had that bipolar episode and she about me in my heart. I really felt like I was doing was right. I mean, yeah, I could have just let her go on and on living and getting worse and worse. I just couldn't see it anymore. I just couldn't take it. Cynthia was the only one who was ever there for her son. In spite of the fact that the domestic violence incident he's referring to was against her. In 2018, Dylan was so violent against his own mother that she ended up in the hospital. According to her other son, Corey, she nearly died and Dylan was to blame. Ultimately, Cynthia filed a restraining order against Dylan, the longest that the state would allow in a desperate attempt to protect herself from her son. However, over time, he managed to weasle his way back into her life. And though he blames that incident on a single bipolar episode, the truth of the matter is that it wasn't just one incident. There were several, especially in the days leading up to her murder. So, what you're telling me, the physical stuff that you did is going to match physically what we have from the autopsy and everything, you believe? >> Cuz I know at first I was like this and everything. She was moving and then that's like that as hard as >> What if I was to tell you that's not consistent? >> What do you mean? That's if what if I was to tell you that >> because I I physically >> and everything and then like push more in kind of like pushing in. >> Okay. So basically what I'm trying to do is basically you reaffirming what you're telling me happened is what I'm going to physically physically see already. You're starting variances starting to come back say well you know he started off lying now doing a lie. >> Yeah cuz like at first you know when I was like in bed like this and then her like that and then I started pushing and she woke up and then started moving around and I pushed her down more and then started going like that and then just really start pushing in like that. >> I don't know how much more else I can do. Right. So you're saying approximately 5 days >> about five a week before leaving? >> Um any alcohol drug use during that period of time that you were there? >> Oh yeah. >> Um oh as you already know I got caught up with a secondderee trafficking. >> So what happened with Bianca? Where she >> last I know she's in Tijana. >> Did she eventually go back down there? Well, you said she got arrested, right? >> Yeah. Something about she got arrested at the border. I don't know what happened with the car and everything cuz we left it for a second and she we were first going over to get me over and then she was going to get the car but do what she had to do then cross it over and then we were supposed to go deeper into Mexico and then just start a new life >> but it didn't work out. >> What connections other than you here in Chris's does she have? I actually have, this is where it's gonna sound crazy. Like, this is where it's gonna really sound crazy. We only knew each other for a month >> before me and my mom even got her. >> Okay. >> Like, I literally don't even know her real name. Like, her she's transgender. I There's a lot of stuff I don't know about her. >> Prior to your mom's, did you guys stay anywhere else, too? >> No. >> Okay. And you had told me you were staying with uh Cassie, was it? >> Those are all lies. >> Everything in the very beginning was just all lies. Everything I said, these last five, whatever, man, is all the truth. >> Okay. Who were you staying with prior to that? >> Her. It's only been my mom and me. >> So, this whole time that you were supposed to be out of the house, the restraining order, >> she's been hiding me. >> You haven't been? >> Nowhere else. She's been hiding. >> Has Jeremy? No. >> No. Those are just friends I would see here and there. >> Okay. >> Um >> when she falls to the when she falls off the bed. >> She hit her head on this thing on the end table. I think she hit her head on the end table. >> Which end table? >> Like so. The bed's here. End table's here. She has two end tables like that. Table like that. So once I like got up and everything, she just walked over. It was like kind of like this. >> When she landed, she was face down on the carpet. >> Yeah. >> So you So when you went into the room, she was laying down when you walk into the room, right? She's laying down on the left side of the bed. >> Is that where she normally slept? >> Yeah, cuz Chuck would always sleep on the right. >> And then that's when you go and lay down with her. >> Yeah. For a moment. And then I could and then that's when I just hear it in her like breathing as she's like sleeping just like the pain. >> Did she take a lot of meds medication? >> Yeah. But none of them were >> Okay. >> Cuz I said these doctors are just >> When you went into the room, was it morning, night, afternoon? >> Probably like around 12:00 morning, morning. >> Like midnight is when you went in there. >> Um was she dressed to go to bed? >> Yes. >> Okay. Like exactly what she found was what she was wearing. >> What she was wearing? >> Okay. What What do you remember that to be? >> I think just a night gown. Maybe just It's either a night gown or it's a shirt and pants. I can't really justify what it really was. >> And And when you go in there, you're saying it's about midnight. Is that um >> Is she asleep? Is she >> Oh, yeah. She was asleep. >> Okay. Like I said, I could just when I laid next to her, I could just hear the pain in her sleep. Just like just a just a heavy breathing then. I don't know. It just I was like I was like I can't take it. I can't take her being like this anymore. I was like I'd rather her go to heaven than have to do it. >> And that's why I said I've my life has just been after one after the other. And >> so what's what's been going through your mind since then? >> I've just just This is it right there. >> Just waiting for this day. Can't hide it. Can't lie it. I just been I mean feels good to finally get it out. But >> did you tell anyone else besides Bianca? >> Bianca know what happened? >> I said nobody knows. Nobody knows. When you came back from Tijuana, where have you been? >> Uh, I've actually just been on the streets. Really? >> Just here or El Paso or >> here? Just cruises cuz like when I crossed back over and everything, uh, I had no money on me. >> Um, the car that I hired to cross me over and everything, I had like weed in it and [ __ ] so I was like, you know what? I'll walk across and everything. So, I wind up not reconnecting with the guy. So, all the rest of like I think like it's like a like,500 I had was in that bag. We this and that was gone. So I'm literally in San Diego on my own, no help from no one, no cell phone, and like it was like I think it was like four days that I was just wandering aimlessly, not knowing what to do. And then I came to this I don't know like like I was just I was so dehydrated. I was just like just like not all there. I came to this hotel and I for some reason I thought that Bianca was there or something. >> And the guy looked at me. I was crazy. Like I didn't really understand how I looked at the time. So then he was like, "Yo, you can't come in." Blah blah blah. I was all right. Then all of a sudden I really felt weird. I was like, "Yo, can you call the ambulance and stuff?" All I had on me was literally my driver's license. That like that was it. Cuz when I went through the border, that was all I had. So I wind up going to they took me over to to Truma Vista Hospital. >> I was there for about 5 days. The social worker there helped me get a ticket back to Cruis and I've been here ever since just waiting for this day. >> A lot of people were waiting for this day because from the very first time detectives walked on the scene, they had several people telling them to look at Dylan for his mother's murder, including one of her closest friends who was interrogated at the scene. So when they told me my first gut was Dylan, her son. Why is that? Um because I've been in the house and I've been with her and he's got a dark side and I know he had she had the restraining order and she lied to her son Corey cuz he just told me. I've never met Cy. Dylan was troubled and because I'm a therapist, she wanted me and my husband to see Dylan. I said, "No, it's conflict of interest." So when Peggy notified me, that's just my gut. >> I mean it was always just well knowing mental health mental health. I mean he would be explosive all the time you know yelling um and then she was in the neighbor she would neighbor you know and say don't say he's here. So I was always firm with her and I was just concerned. Now I feel bad if something happened because I didn't talk to her. Is she Did she die? >> I know. I don't want to. >> No. You contact her son. The concerns were he yells. He's he's violent. Um but I thought he was out of the house. So in speaking to Corey, he said she had a restraining order. Didn't know. Um, she gave me the keys because she, and it wasn't verbatim, I'm a Baptist historian. She said, "If anything happens to the dogs and I'm out doing errands, come and feed them." I said, "Okay." I was reluctant to get the keys cuz I was like, "I don't want to overcommit." So, um, and then when she had her son come pick up the last check for our last dog, which was October, I think, >> um, they were on the phone. >> Dylan. Yeah. Cory lives in Texas. I heard him yelling and my husband said, "Cindy, you don't need to tolerate that." That's really the last time I heard Dylan. I don't know what day it was. So, and just her being an enabling mom and then just talking to the neighbors, they heard it all the time and they never called law enforcement. It's like, "Who does that? Why don't you do that?" I tried to tell. So, Dylan is very troubled. She would always make the excuse that he had cancer. Um, I said, "Cindy, get him into the valley." >> So, and I felt for her. >> It wasn't just her close friends telling police to look at Dylan. More than two neighbors approached police, telling them that for up to a year before Cynthia's murder, she had come to them asking for help after having fights with her son. The neighbors often heard him screaming and throwing things. And at least in one instance, Cynthia came to them with visible injuries. In addition, Dylan's brother, Cory, told police that his brother was frequently violent. So, take that into consideration as Dylan ends his interview once again trying to claim that he was only trying to help his mother by killing her. >> Anything else you want to talk to us and tell us about? >> That's pretty much it. >> Okay. As far as your mom's cards, the stuff that you use, what did you eventually do with those >> through here in town or? >> Yeah. Uh just like in some random dumpster by some church cuz I knew like the next day it was going to get picked up and tossed. >> So any any truth or fallacy as far as using the dumpsters at the Circle K? >> Yeah. Uh some of them dumped a lot of the other stuff uh like went to the like dumpy yard, dumped a lot of stuff out there like I don't know why was >> multiple trips. >> Yeah. About like about four >> four trips from the house loading stuff up, taking it, getting rid of it. >> Yeah. Okay. And then like you said, you pretty much clean everything just uh >> Yeah, like everything was supposed to be cuz we found a place over in Tijana for like 700 bucks for a house like kind of like deep in it and we're just going to start a new life and you know it was just this was just going to be something I was going to have to live with for the rest of my life. >> And at that time I was pretty content with it. But when she didn't come back and something happened with her at the border, I just was so lost. I didn't know what to do. >> Okay. Um the clean wood supplies at the house. >> Oh, just like just stuff like um like you know just like a pine saw, Clorox, um disinfecting wipes. >> Nothing like seriously like as if on or anything. >> But like did you take them, leave them? >> Oh, like through them like as you saw was emptied, the pantry was emptied. You know, that's I I don't know why I don't know why I got rid of food. Like I don't know why. I don't know why it was so important for me to get rid of the food. I don't know why, but that's really >> What did you think like eventually she was going to be found or how she was going to be found? What was your thought process? >> I just thought maybe that that's what I'm saying too. It did like it just it it really didn't matter because like she had a friend know named Ronnie who knew I was staying there >> and if she was found dead there would only be like one connection to me, >> you know? So, I don't know. Like I said, this was just something I just been waiting for to come and to face. to face the music. >> So, I mean, maybe if you guys could put in because I'm going to be doing Fed time most likely. >> Whatever time this whatever happens with this, I would like to do the feds >> if you fed side. >> Yeah. I don't want to do state. I want to be in the feds. >> Um I mean, we'll we'll speak on it. I've got to call them back a little bit too and talk to them a little bit. Um, like I said, these are the ones that it's better to get everything out than to continue with certain lies and and even some of the stuff that you told me. If I I'm not going to take everything 100%. So, if I go back and things don't match up, that's probably not going to look good for you, right? >> Yeah. Cuz the other thing, too, is um you'll probably find fingerprints around her arms cuz when I had Bianca finally help me pull her into the shower, >> so that's the more of the truth. But honestly, I first like when I first did, I tried to use a bag and then she fought me. That's when I got my hands around her and that's when I really started pushing and then with all my might. So then it kind of wrapped around like this and then just really just like there was no like blunt trauma. I didn't bash her head in or anything. It was like I was trying to like say my goodbyes. >> Okay. >> So you were trying to use the bag at first. >> Yeah. because I thought maybe if I used the bag it wouldn't it wouldn't show my handprint so it wouldn't lead to me right away but the more she fought and when she freaked out that what I was trying to do you know she screamed out like help me Jesus and everything else if I leave now she's definitely going to call him that's attempted murder so then I was just like just do it >> in that bag >> it was just like a black normal bag like a like a trash bag >> a big like a big hefty bag. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like a big hefty one. But >> [ __ ] she's always been a tough one. She's always been a tough bag. >> Like everything else just threw it away. >> Okay. Um you said you had to get the to help you. >> Yeah. >> So when you moved her from the floor to the >> It was It was just like It was just normally like the like I had I was like grabbed her wrist and just went like that. uh the the ankles and so when put in the shower, I kind of put the bag on her face cuz I couldn't bear to look at it. So then the day that we were to take off and everything, um I went in the shower. I could already smell her like just whatever. And then when I pulled the bag off, my hand was shaking so bad cuz I like forming. And then I kind of just sprayed her down with some chem. I don't know which one it is. And then she turned on the faucet and that was it. >> Describe how she was laying in the shower >> just like like that. >> Was she flat? Was she >> like like her head was a little bit against the back part and just like that with the lotion like the conditioner bottle that maybe she like was going in to turn on the water then slipped and fell. >> Um I appreciate you talking with us. I appreciate you telling us what you've told us. Um, again, that's some stuff we're going to go back and and clarify and verify and whatnot, but you know, I hope everything you told us is consistent with what we have and we're still finding out. You know, these are evolving things as they go. >> Um, in the event that we have additional questions, you will want to talk to us again. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because I'm already going to do time, so this will just be another charge. But I I if you guys could put in a word, I would. I want to do federal. >> Okay. >> Because I mean, pretty much I'm going to be doing federal. So, and then the prior charges I have is with the state. >> I'm not a bad person. I'm not a bad person. I in my heart, I really felt like I was doing something good for I really did. It was way that it had. >> Yeah. All right. Um, any messages you want us to relay to anybody? No, everybody hates me. All my brothers, they never like me. Her family doesn't like her. They don't like me. I've It's literally just been me and her. >> It's only been me and her. >> And even as between the two of you, it's >> She always Yeah, it was always just us. Like I said, especially with the whole restraining order, she cuz at the time too when I had that one warrant, she couldn't take it off. It had to be more than like three years or something. And then I had another warrant, but she needed help a lot. I needed help, too. So, we like she like would like, you know, hide me and this and that, you know, >> just a roller coaster. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Um I don't have anything else. If we do need to we'll come back and talk to you. >> Yeah. >> All right. And then we'll we'll call the we got to go back. We'll call the feds and the states. >> Yeah. But yeah, if you really can sign I just hear that the feds are a lot better. >> Yeah. like with programs like I'm probably gonna be doing now that I've confessed this probably like what 20 years or something. I'd rather at least be in federal doing something good like getting degrees and because I love to read and all that [ __ ] So now that I've confessed and everything and just would like a little help like that because I'm willing to do the time. I just don't want to do state. >> I don't want to do state time. I want to do federal. If that's if you guys somehow help me out, >> we can mention that we can mention obviously any charge that we come up with is going to be a state charge. >> Yeah, >> but we can a lot of times they'll work stuff out. >> Yeah. >> Do concurrence or whatnot. So, all righty. Any questions for us? >> Um, how did you guys hear like how did you like how did you guys even get over there? Like what happened? car concerned neighbors. You were seen there. >> Yeah. >> So, >> wow. That wasn't too long. Even two. You said the 21st. >> Yeah. >> I think it was the 21st we got there. >> And I think I left on I think it was like Was it the 8th? I know it was November. No, that was just that was like just a week later on the 21st. That was just like a week later. >> Yeah. It wasn't It wasn't a huge gap of time. It might have been less than a week from the time you left the child. That's good. >> All right, guys. >> And you know, we can't divulge everything. >> Yeah, I gota I know you can't say names and just like that. >> All righty. We'll get you going, get you back up there, and then we'll kind of just just kind of stand by for stuff. I know you got a hearing tomorrow. >> Yeah. >> Um and what we talked about today is it may affect what's happen there tomorrow. So, >> yeah. >> All righty. Any questions for us? >> No. >> Ultimately, Dylan was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole in 30 years for the first degree murder of his mother. In addition, he was charged with tampering with evidence, which added on an additional 3 years. He continued to claim that he only killed his mother as an act of mercy, but his history of violence. taking money from her bank account and fleeing the country has painted a very different picture for everyone who knew and loved Cynthia. Thank you for watching today's video. Whether you're new here or have been with us for a while, check out one of the craziest cases I've ever covered right here or one of my newest uploads right here.