Do you care for a lot? A lot. I'm here to do whatever I can to help. All right. So, where is she? This is North Bridgen. For the last 24 hours, police have been desperately trying to find his missing girlfriend, Teresa. But as soon as they discover surveillance footage, they will realize that sitting in front of them is not a concerned boyfriend, but a coldblooded killer. Video recorded on their camera Sunday showed a man and a woman heading toward the pond. 20 minutes later, the man was walking in the opposite direction alone with neither a shirt nor shoes. You see how that looks, right? You killed her and threw her in a lake. Late into the night on September 26th, 2021 in Jacksonville, Florida, 27-year-old Terresa Gortica's friends and family were beginning to panic. Earlier that evening, she had seemingly vanished after going to visit the home of her on-again off-again partner, North Pigen. Teresa, an artist and music lover, cared deeply about those around her and always stayed in touch. Which is why immediately her lack of contact set off alarm bells. In the early morning hours of September 27th, less than 24 hours after her disappearance, detectives had already begun questioning those closest to her. And all that questioning led them right to North Pigen, who agreed to come in voluntarily. Hey man, I'm Detective Lee. This is my partner, Detective Barnhard. Um, your name is it North? North Samuel Corporation. North Samuel Cole's Virgin. What do you go by? North. North. Okay. What's your uh what's your date of birth? Uh September uh 24th, 1993. September 24th. Yes, sir. 93. You just had a birthday, huh? Yeah. Okay. And what is your current address? Uh, that's your parents house? Yes, sir. Okay. Now, North, uh, it's my understanding is, uh, you came down here on your own free will to help us, uh, of course, find, uh, find Teresa, right? Thank you. Now, what's your relationship to her? Um, boyfriend slashclose friend slash just, you know, just family kind of. All right, Cole, can you uh I mean, North, can you read and write? Yes, very well. All right. What's the highest level of education you have? Um, high school diploma. High school. Where'd you go to high school? Uh, Sandalwood. Sandalwood. And are you currently under the influence of any drugs or alcohol? Uh just marijuana, but it's pretty much uh faded faded away by now. When was the last time you smoked some weed? [Music] Um 4 hours ago roughly, but no alcohol. Uh no, sir. All right, cool. The detective read north his rights, assuring him that he's not in any trouble. All right. So, you said you and Teresa are boyfriend girlfriend. Yeah. I mean, we we try not to label it. Try not to label. How long have y'all been uh in this relationship? About 2 months now. About 2 months. I've known her for quite a while, though. How long have you known her? Uh since 2009. Since 09. Yes, sir. How'd y'all meet? Um, well, we got to really know each other through a mutual friend about a year and a half, two years ago. How did you meet her in 09 though? Um, go to school together or No, I had a friend that knew her, so I knew of her. So, I didn't really like But he said about a year ago is when somebody kind of introduced y'all, right? Okay. And who was that that introduced you? Uh, Roger. Roger. Mhm. And then you guys just kind of remained friends and then yeah like good relation good good chemistry you know and then re so it's about you said two months ago is when you all started I guess dating quote unquote if you will. Yeah. So when was uh the last time you spoke to her? Um, I want to say between 1 and 2 o'lock roughly in the afternoon today roughly on Sunday. Okay. And did you speak to her in person? Over the phone? In person. Okay. Where were you guys at when you got uh my house? At your house on Williston. On my patio. She usually comes over every every day. Every other day. You said that was between 1 and 1:30 roughly. Did she come over or was she already there? Um, I had ordered her a lift over. You had ordered her a lift to come over to your house. So, you order her a lift? Mhm. And then she gets to your house between like 1 and uh 1:30. No, no. She she she came over way earlier. Oh, okay. Yeah. came over around like uh 10 9:30. So you guys don't take my word like verbatim on that cuz this is just a normal day. Normal day for us, you know, we don't really keep track of every second. We're just trying to do the ballpark, right? So about 10:00 a.m. she gets about your house, right? You guys are just what hanging out? Yeah. Do you need me to go into details? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, um, a lot of the time we just listen to music, you know, we do intimate things, we dance and, um, we smoke a little bit and we eat. Does um, Teresa have a phone? She does not. She does not. Now I've been urging her and urging her to get a job and you know you know I'll tell her I'll help you like with money you know if that's the case but I know better than to do everything for somebody and I I've I understand how that ends up playing out. So, how do you get a hold of her then if she doesn't have um she has a laptop on Facebook which she's on 24/7 while she's at the house and she'll message me and we'll make up a plan and she'll be like, "Okay, I'm on my way." Or, "Okay, I'm ready." You know, stuff like that. And is that is that what you did today? Is you send her you sent her a message on on Facebook? Did she bring that laptop with her to your house? No. No. She always that's her father's laptop and she always leaves at home. North somehow is completely unaware that he's just dug himself into a hole by disclosing that Teresa doesn't have a phone and didn't bring her laptop to his house. Because the instant detectives look at her Facebook, they're going to know that there's no way she was at North's house when he claims that she was. At 12:42 p.m., Teresa posted this status. Now, I'm no expert, but those don't sound like posts made by someone who is thrilled to be in an unlabeled relationship. Teresa made multiple posts with song lyrics from 6:00 a.m. to 12:42, which according to North means she must have been at home despite his claims that she was at his house from the midm morning until 1:30ish. Then there's this photo, which she posted at 1:31 p.m. when she was supposedly just leaving his home. It appears that she responded to a now deleted comment that North made. Now, Facebook comments aren't exactly the most damning evidence, but surveillance footage is, and the police aren't far from finding that. So, you said you lost spoke to her between 1 and 1:30. So, what where did she go from there? Um, she was supposed to be going home. Okay. How was she supposed to get home? She was walking home. You know, I insisted on ordering another list, but she's so humble. She feels bad and she just really said, "No, let me walk. Let me walk." You know, we need to save money. This and that. So So she left your house and walked. Yes, sir. Is that typical for her to walk home from your house or? Um, no, not typical. She does walk home a lot, you know, from Zach's home into Zach's home. That is the person she does her ice with and the person who I try to, you know, get her to, you know, not be around so much, not do the ice so much with. And who's Zach? Zach Morgan is somebody who she believes is her cousin. Mhm. Who she admitted to me last night. It was then and said, "Guess what? Zach finally admitted that he was my cousin." And it's someone she has sexual relationships with. So, it's very tricky. She's um a clinically in insane person, if you will. She has bipolar, uh borderline personality, schizophrenia. You can name the list. Great person, great human, worth the time and energy and the investment, but the those are the facts if that's what you're looking for. Mhm. So, she's she's known to do ice. Have you seen her do ice before? Do you do it with her? I did it with her on a a couple times because I I discouraged her from doing it so many times that I felt like hypocrite and I said, "You know what? I'll do it so I know what it feels like for you." And then I did it and I told her, "Hey, you don't need it. I don't want you on this stuff. It's a waste of money." And I mean, the high is just kind of paranoia if anything. And it explains why you kind of, you know, tweak out and act a little paranoid at times. Has she been that way with you where she's acting all paranoid? No. Um, she's done it once or twice, but usually I'm able to like hug her and calm her down and she she'll smile and realize that every Y'all didn't do any ice today. Absolutely not, sir. Or I guess when y'all were hanging out earlier. No, sir. No. Just smoked some weed. And weed doesn't make her like act any kind of way. She actually she actually tries to stay away from weed cuz she doesn't like the way it feels and she didn't smoke any weed today. I smoked like one or two hits. It's it's not a real big uh thing in my life anymore at this point. Do you do anything besides weed? Uh no sir. You don't have like a preference on, you know, you said ice is her thing. You don't have a No, I drink every now and then. Just just drinking and weed. Yeah. How many times did you do ice with her? Um two times. Just two times. How recent was that? If today is Monday, I would say last week, Tuesday, and Wednesday. Okay. So, when Teresa left her house, she's walking. Mhm. And that's the last time you spoke to her. And usually her plan is to message me as soon as she gets home so I know she's okay. She She enjoys the walk. She walks from her house to the Dollar General by Huffman all the time. and she just it's her thing. Where is Where does Zach live? Okay. I have his address on my phone and wanted you guys to stop by him and see if he may she's with him. Is is my thing. Have you been able to talk to him? Zack Morgan. Okay. She said she was she said she told you she was going home or you just assumed she was going home? Both. She said she told you? Yes. And I I believed her. Okay. What did you do after that? Um, I just went back and just turned um my TV, turned my music up and just um just relaxed. You didn't go anywhere or hang out with anybody else? Nope. I usually stay away from all of my other older friends and I've replaced them with Teresa and I've put more of my time and energy into her. try to see that flower blossom because I know it it's it's blossoming. So, do you care for it a lot? A lot. Otherwise, I would I would not be here unless I actually have to, you know. North was already a suspect because he's Teresa's boyfriend. But the fact that he's doing everything he can to make himself look like the white knight trying to save her from her own destructive behavior isn't making him look as innocent as he thinks. It's important to note that there's no confirmation that Teresa was doing any of the things that North claims. Though, as you're about to see, he sure is eager to point police in any direction but his. Also, how can you help us wander? Okay, so you have Zach's um information, his address. A good idea would be to start by asking him um there's um I know she got hard which is crack I believe right from a guy named Hassan wear and I think she makes her do you know sexual things to get it um and I don't know if anything occurred between the two of them two of them and escalated from there. Um, again, I'm just spec speculating and throwing things out there. I'm not accusing or, you know, did it upset you that you knew she was doing absolutely sexual things like that? Absolutely. Thought it out. You weren't good with that. No, but you know, the thing is what she taught me is to accept and love no matter what, you know, and to not hold any types of resentment or whatever. And the thing is, I've had a history of addiction issues. So, I understand it. So, it's What were you addicted to? Um, I had a real problem with Xanax. Xanax. Mhm. Okay. And mixing it with a little bit of alcohol makes you a little, you know, so your parents house over there uh on on Willist Drive. Do you actually stay there like full time? Um, like inside the house? No. No. I I've been staying on the patio for the past 2 months and that's where she come over and we would, you know, hang out and spend the day or the night. Like is there like a like a like a setup on the patio for you like bed and like TV and all that stuff? And were your parents home today this afternoon when uh when Teresa was over there? Yeah, my mom was home in the morning. In the morning. when she So, your mom saw Teresa as she talked to her. Um, I can't say for certain. I don't I don't know cuz I don't know if my mom came out there or not that morning, but she she often does and says hi to Teresa. And maybe it's something you can talk to her and ask her to verify with her. But your but your parents, they know they know Teresa. They very well. Yeah. They recognize her if they saw her. We went uh to dinner together uh for our birthday a couple days ago to watch the Sunday game. Cuz her birthday was the 18th. Mine's the 24th. No, they they love her, you know. I'm I'm trying. I'm just I don't know. I I don't know how serious it is because I I know she's she has a tendency to go out and go to the beach bars with, you know, Michaela, her friend, or Alexa, her friend, spend the night with some guys she met, and then not hit me up until the next day. So, I don't know how serious it is. You know, is it common for her to uh go like long periods of time without getting in contact with you? Long periods of times meaning two days. Yes. Four. No. So two days is normal for like you know one or two. Yeah. So be ghosting you for a little three or four and I I'd be I'd feel some type of way. Has that happened though? Like if y'all got into a bad argument? No. No. You're always good again within a couple days. No. Cuz it's like amnesia. We're always good. We're always good. Within a day or two. Y'all are good again. Always. Claiming that your girlfriend cheats on you regularly and then stating that you don't fight often is quite interesting to say the least. In time, law enforcement are going to find footage that shows just how volatile the couple's fights could be. But first, they have another lie to catch him in. You didn't go anywhere else with anybody else today? No, sir. Okay. You didn't go any place with uh with your friend Mickson? Mick? You know Mick? I know Mkinson. Okay. You didn't go anywhere with him today? Um, boy, I seen Mickson today. I don't remember where it was, but um I don't think I went anywhere in specific with him. I think I may have just seen him outside and just seen him outside. How? Um, driving by just told him, you know, good friend. I love him. Stay up. So, he was just you were just standing outside your house and he just come driving by. Yeah. and that happened me before. So, we usually catch up every every time we do see each other physically. Where does he live? I'm not exactly sure now. I know he moved out. I know he grew up in the neighborhood I lived in, though. Okay. You remember about what time that was when you saw him? No, I would say later on in the afternoon. Before or after Teresa left? after after Teresa love. I would have to say and you said he was driving by. He wasn't like walking by or No, you he was driving. He was driving. Yeah. Who saw who first? Did you see him or did he He usually always sees me first. Okay. Yeah. And did he just pull up to your house? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's usually how it works with them. Yeah. You just pulled up. Mhm. But you didn't come. You didn't get in his car. I think I got in his car and we rode around just for a second and, you know, just to talk to chat to make sure we were both doing okay and then he let me out and I went, you know, walked right back inside. Did y'all do anything while you were driving around? Just talk. Just talk. And you didn't like smoke weed? No. No, sir. No. Would there be any reason why Mickson would say that you did something to harm Teresa? No. Did he? I'm asking you. No. No. There's no reason for him to say that you did something to Teresa and then threw her in a lake. What? No. Are you Are you No. I'm asking you these questions, you know, and sir, you know, cuz I asked you before if you had left your house, gone anywhere. You said no. My house, right? Yeah. Your house? And then you said that Mickson just kind of rolled by. You guys said what's up. And that was it. that went from that to now you in his car rolling, you know, driving around. So, I don't remember exactly the is if the exact step by step, you know, how my day was cuz I don't, you know, Well, the biggest thing here, North is finding Teresa. Absolutely. All right. and we brought you down here because you know you want to help us find her. But at the same time, you know, Mickson is telling us that you guys are riding around. You said that you killed her and threw her in a lake. No, I I did not say that. I did not say that. So, you're saying he's a liar? Yes, sir. Why would he lie about that? I have no clue. I mean, could you have said just said that to him and in in just No, that's not funny. Then where'd that [ __ ] come from, man? I don't know. I'm really kind of pissed off right now. I'm What? Are you pissed off at him? No, sir. Cuz you see how that looks, right? Absolutely. This is my life on the line if if anything happens to Teresa. So, Mr. President, how did you get all banged up, man? Your limp pain, you got scratches and red marks all over you. I've played basketball and it got a little rough. My uh ankle was from the um Who did you play basketball with? a whole bunch of friends at uh Huffman today. Yes, sir. So, that's another place you went that you didn't say that you forgot about earlier. Oh, if if you would asked me through what I did throughout my whole day, I would have gone through the whole day with you. Y'all play some rough y'all play some rough basketball, man. I played ball basketball growing up, too. I got scratched up. Is different. Buffing is different. Ball hard. And I hadn't bought in a while, too. So, my body wasn't I played some basketball, too. I ain't get scratched up like that. The only time I got scratched up like that is when I was trouncing through the woods. That silence kind of speaks for itself. In the early evening hours of the day, Teresa was killed. North messaged his friend and asked him to give him a ride home from near the pond where Teresa's body would eventually be discovered. Immediately upon getting in the car, he told his friend that he had strangled Teresa and thrown her in the lake. Why he decided to call and create a witness, let alone tell the witness everything that happened, is a pretty good testament to the level of criminal mastermind these police are working with. I get what you're implying, but that would do you get why we're implying it? We didn't make it up, right? You know, somebody's saying this and obviously somebody's very concerned about this young lady as we are. Yeah. So if something happened to her, be it by you or someone else, most important thing we can do now is focus on working together and trying to find her. Right. Abs. Absolutely. And I'm I'm here to do whatever I can to help. All right. So where is she? I do not know, sir. I think you do know. Okay. And I'm willing to do whatever I can to help you, but I I can't just make up a lie and tell you that I know where she's at when she doesn't. Well, what's Mickson's background then? I mean, is there some reason why he would say this? Is he He's just an old friend of mine. Has he ever been known to be an off-the-wall kind of guy with this kind of stuff? I mean, is he going to make some [ __ ] up about you? I I haven't really associated with Micas in the past year or so. Yeah, but you he just happened to be driving by today and y'all got in the car and we're chilling together listening to music and talking. So, I mean, what were we all talking about? Nothing. Just life like we always do. He usually tells me about where he's at in life. I usually tell him about where I'm at life, where I'm at in life, you know? So, if something bad has happened to Resa, who who should who should we look at? If something is bad happened to her, I would keep it wide open because she's knows so many people and talks to so many people that it's Why did you miss me? Why did you mention like Zach so specifically earlier? Cuz you said Teresa because because aside from me, Zach is one of her really close friends. Yeah, but you Okay. Well, you said she has known to hook up with lots of guys. I was just kind of wondering why you threw you Because honestly, like if there were a guy one and two, it would be us. Okay. That's why. And you didn't like that? Obviously. I loved it. I loved that he cared for her and I wanted him to help. Right. But you didn't. You said you didn't like the fact that you knew she was basically going back between you and him as well. I didn't like the fact that she was doing those things she was doing with, you know, her body for those other things. Okay. Cuz you didn't like it was any big deal that you said she goes to the beaches and hooks up with other dudes and stuff. Yeah. No. And that's not a big deal. I just don't like her son or her body first. But you feel like she cares for Zach kind of like on the same level she cares for you. Okay. Then I encourage her to do so because you know he's a great guy and it's all the make you feel jealous or anything or just kind of feel like some type of way about that like it wasn't No. No. Maybe maybe at first it but then I started to understand the dynamic and I I became more comfortable with it. What was y'all's visit like today? Did y'all Does that come up? Um, no. It was cool. Y'all didn't have any argument at all about anything? No. We just relaxed vibe, listening to music. And the last you knew she was just walking on foot from your house. You walk her down the to the street or anything like that? I walk her towards the front of my house. Just to the front of the house, sir. All right. To uh help us uh locate Teresa because you do have messages from her on your on Facebook and whatnot. Would you be willing to give us consent to uh download your phone so we can, you know, get some information, try to find where she's at? Sure thing. Well, give us a second here. I'm going to go uh get the guys to come download your phone right quick. Okay. And then um be back in here a second. [Music] Detectives need more than a second. They leave North in the interrogation room for 4 hours where he assumes the position of a slug, which is pretty on brand considering how slimy he's being. In the meantime, they're running a rapid investigation to see if they can find Theresa's body. They're hopeful that downloading the GPS history on his phone will lead them right to her because the surveillance footage they've discovered from the houses around Norths tell them that they are without a doubt going to find a body. Mr. Bridgen. All right, man. We're going to get you out of here and get your phone back to you and all that stuff. All right. But before we do that, uh, all right. You know, we had some inconsistencies earlier. So, I'm going to give you this this opportunity to kind of take us back through Sunday, September 26th. All right? Just kind of take us through the your the day's events. Don't leave nothing out. All right? And just go line by line, incident by incident. All right? because you kind of left some stuff out before. So, let's just clear all that stuff up. Okay. So, you want me to recap an entire day? Yeah, man. Let's Let's start from uh you know when you woke up Sunday whenever whenever you woke up. Get your day started. Go from there. Started doing all my stuff, man. Just hygienic stuff. Like what time what time did you get up? Uh 10 10:30 11 10:30 in the morning. Okay. Did you talk to your parents at all that day when you got up or did you see them? No, not that morning. Where were they at? I'm not 100% sure, sir. Okay. So, you get up at 10. Then what what do you do after that? Um, then I talked to Teresa. Um, turn on my Xbox, start listening to music. Um, we just sort of talk to each other, see what she's doing. So, you talk to Teresa around what time is that? I I can't tell you for sure. So, can you give me ballpark? Yeah. [Music] Um 11ish. 11ish. So you get back to your house and you guys are hanging out. Um how long were you guys there? I want to say 3 hours. 2 hours. Two two to three hours. Two to three hours. So what do you do after those two to three hours? Nothing. Just that's it. We just decide that maybe we'll hang out later probably. So she just leaves. Yeah. By herself, right? Right. It's a very normal thing with us. Very independent woman. Does she say where she's going? Oh, yeah. She said she was going to go home. Going home. Mhm. and she was just going to walk, right? And you stayed home. You didn't follow her. You didn't go with her. And you said that's about 2 or 3 hours after you guys got back to your house. Roughly. Roughly 2 or 3 hours. Okay. It's still daylight out though, right? Yes. Okay. So, what do you do after after she leaves? Well, I just go back in um get on my Xbox, listen to music, and sort of just wait for her to get back home so I can talk to her and know she's okay and just occupy myself. Normally, I play video games, write music, you know, stuff like that. So, is that what you did for the rest of the day? No, not for the rest of the day because I ended up going uh to Huffman and play basketball whenever I didn't hear from her. Okay. Cuz I got a little upset that I didn't hear from her. So, I went and played basketball and did my own thing that night. Why were you upset you didn't hear from her? No, just because we always communicate, talk back and forth. There's nothing like, you know, it was just You guys didn't get in a fight at all? No, that's why she left. No. No, she just left cuz time for Yeah. No, no, we Yeah, we we don't try to hang out all day every day. You go to Huffman to play basketball. Did you do anything before? Um, no. Not not to my knowledge. No. What did you do after that? Um I asked my buddy to bring me home because of how bad my ankle was and he did so. And your and your buddy that's um Minson. Minson. No sir. No sir. Another gentleman up at the court. Who was that? Um his name is Terrell. And um he uh brought me home or to my parents' home where I packed up my stuff and then went over to Cass's stuff. Cass's place. So So Mickelson was the one that dropped you off at the park, right? I believe I believe so. I don't remember if you did or not, honestly. But you're saying Terrell is definitely the one that drove you home from the park. For sure. For sure. How did uh how did you how did how did uh Dickinson like come in contact with you today? Um it must have been just random sighting. Just random sighting. Yes, sir. You didn't like call him or ask him to come get you? No, I don't. No, no, I don't think so. Where did he pick you up at? I don't remember exactly. Probably somewhere around the neighborhood cuz that's usually where we end up seeing each other. But you weren't at the park when he picked you up? No. I was probably on my way to the park, honestly. You were on your way to the park? Probably cuz it that's happened multiple times. But was it before after you played basketball when you ran into him? Oh, before for sure. Before? Yes, sir. All right. So, where do you guys go? you and Mickson. Um, we just drive around, talk a little bit, and um, then he just drops me off at the park and um, that's it. At this point, detectives have good reason to ask if North followed Teresa because they've discovered footage showing exactly that on the street leading from North's house to Teresa's. In the footage taken in the evening hours of March 27th, Teresa is seen storming down the street away from North. She repeatedly yells at North, telling him, "You're not coming with me. Go back home and leave me alone." Yet, North continues to follow her until the two disappear off camera. About 30 minutes later, North is seen walking back in the direction of his home. Teresa is nowhere in sight, and North is disheveled with his clothes soaked and a limp. Well, here's the thing. And then we talked to your parents. Um, you know, we've talked to Teresa's parents and her family and obviously they're very concerned right now and you being the last person to see her. All right. Yeah. You kind of play a key role in this right now. No, I understand. That's why. Now, what makes it makes it difficult though, North is that you know your buddy Mickson, you know, he calls us. He actually comes down here to the police station to tell us that while you guys are riding around, you tell him that you killed Teresa. I I don't know where he got that from or why he said that. I mean, I spoke to Mickson myself and he's not the type of person that's going to make some [ __ ] up. No. And I've known Mikson for a while, too. But that's that's definitely not what I maybe took something out of context or maybe he said he said you told her that you her and drowned her. No, sir. So that's not taking You can't really take that out of context. No, sir. That's honestly and that's not even fair for me to hear cuz that's not right. That's not I would never do that. And that's North. Let me ask you this then. But if we find Teresa and she's in the water and been then what? I'd be devastated. You'd be more than devastated at that point. After somebody said that, that's exactly what you said you did to her. I mean, did y'all get into fight? Was it an accident, man? Crazy [ __ ] happens sometimes, man, in emotion. Love. I mean, do you care about her at all? I do, sir. Yes. Absolutely. I I I love her. You love her? Love her to death. You love her to death. You guys are scaring me now. Well, well, we're trying to figure out. There's a young lady that's missing and no one knows where she is. Okay. And then there's another guy saying that you claimed to be responsible for that. So, obviously, your friend that you were riding around in the car with said that you told him you and killed her. I wouldn't do that. She knows I wouldn't do that. Then where is she? I'm not sure. But when she when she pops up, I I'll be very relieved to. Is she going to pop up? Knowing her? Yeah. So, where'd that story come from then? Why would you tell me this and that? I have no clue why he said that. No clue. Well, he's wondering why you said that. I I I'll talk to him and I'll straighten it up with him, but I I do not know why he would come up with something like that. That's Nor the first time we talked, you left out the fact that you rode with a lift driver to the house to get Teresa. You left out the fact that you got in a car and drove around with Mickson, and you left out the fact that you were at a park ball and you said you stayed at home all day. All right. All right. Well, I'm sorry about that. I I wasn't sure about how important each detail was. Well, we're talking less than 24 hours, you know. Mhm. That this stuff had happened. Okay. I can tell you Sunday. Well, here's the thing. I didn't know something so severe was like occurring. So, well, the first time we talked to you, that had only been like 12 hours since all that happened. You know, it wasn't like it had been a long time ago. So, yeah. You said you got those scratches and [ __ ] on your arms and legs from playing basketball. Basketball? Yeah. No, I we we play rough out there. I fell a few times. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't buying that, man. I mean, did you Like I said, those to me, those scratches on you, I'm looking at them right now, man. That's not from playing ball. That shit's from going through the woods. Did you take a shortcut through the woods or anything to get to the get to the park? No, sir. I'm No, sir. I'm sorry if you don't believe me, but No, sir. Yeah, I would like to go now. Well, stand by. Like I said, we got to wait on your phone and we're getting uh somebody come and photograph your uh your injuries from playing ball. All right. Okay. But in the meantime, you think about uh think about her and where she's at. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. [Music] Detectives were swiftly brought in to photograph the multiple scratches all over his body, including his neck, the fronts and backs of his arms, and all the way down his legs. Now, I know you said you uh wanted to go, but uh there's a couple of things in your phone that I kind of want to clarify if you're okay with going over that and clarifying that with us. Everything we can see. Okay. So, so when I asked you earlier if um you know how you and uh Mkinson got hooked up today, you said that it was just a chance encounter. You just right. Did Did we reach out Did I reach out to him or something? Well, you told me that it was just a chance encounter, right? That that's that's the best I I remember it. Okay. Well, and at 550 At 5:50 p.m., you send him a message that says, "Pick me up ASAP." And he sends back, "Where are you at?" You said, "You're at Sutton Lakes." And he asked, "Are you in danger?" And you said, "Yes." Okay. I just wanted his attention. I just wanted to talk to him. Okay. You just wanted to talk to him. Yeah. It's 18 hours ago, man. You You don't remember? Like, that mean that's it? You just wanted to get his attention? Why didn't you tell us that the first time? Like you would have remembered that. No, I I honestly didn't. I honestly didn't remember reaching out to him in that manner from 18 hours ago. You don't remember texting somebody saying help like basically I'm in danger? No, I'm I'm sorry. I do not Well, how did you go from he was just riding down the street and he saw you to Because those are the occurrences that happen often with me and Mckinson. when I, you know, recollected on it yesterday, that's what I had assumed. So, it wouldn't be normal then for you to text him that. So, why'd you decide to do that? But we have reached out to each other in the past, you know, to check up on each other. One morning, you know, he reached out to me and we talked for hours and hours and you guys rap together. Vented kind of. Kind of. Are you a rapper? Yes, sir. Spit some bars for me, man. I can't do it now. My energy's a little bit drained. Oh, come on, man. If you're a rapper, that [ __ ] just flowing, man. Come on. No. North had no problem spitting bars in a video that he made for Teresa just 10 days before she was murdered by him. You think it's black and white for eternity. I broke them with the algorithm so they tried to murder me. They started riding backwards. I went forward into enemies territory. Now I tell a story full of mysteries. The story that North is telling isn't full of mysteries, just really, really bad lies. With detectives paging through the GPS info on his phone, the countdown to his arrest is ticking away. But first, detectives have another bomb to drop on him. Like I said, we're we're trying to unearth every stone right now looking for Teresa. Okay. I said we're um you know, that's all we obviously talked to Mickson. We talked to Zach. Okay. You know, his you know, we've talked to her family, your family, you know. Oh, by the way, um I spoke to your mom and she wanted to make to uh make sure that I let you know that it is abundantly clear that you were not welcome at their home. Okay, just FYI. Okay. And why why would that be? Just over time, deterioration, fights, and you know, just it's hard to explain 20, you know, years of life. Just to recap though, when uh when you and uh when you and Teresa, you said you guys were at your house, right? Hanging out at some whenever you guys came back with the lift, right? Right. Um when you guys were hanging out at your house, you said for about two to three hours. Give or take. Give or take. Okay. Did you guys have uh I don't mean the pride, but did you guys have uh Yes, sir. Seems kind of hesitant. Is that um No. I'm just I'm just answering the question. And it just it's just rude a little bit, but I mean it's a very uh special situation, so I understand the question. Okay. So, you did have Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Um well, with that being said, then obviously would you mind if we get your DNA then? Okay. Um just cuz I want to you know make sure that we get uh that we can eliminate everything. Right. Right. This is also showing just how uh you know that you're cooperating. Your story is a little wishy-washy but but you're cooperating. I'm trying my best to recall. Do you just have um a hard time remembering [ __ ] man? Well, honestly, I didn't expect for the day to unfold and for, you know, her to go missing. So, I didn't like, you know, quick shot any certain memories. I just sort of went about it as another day. And now that everything's, you know, being forced to the surface, it's it's a little difficult to call to recall it as accurate as you guys would wish me to. Do you remember one more time what time she left your house? the best you can recall cuz I I can't tell you an exact time, but you said earlier like 2 three two three hours after. Okay, that's the best I I can. And you said it was noon, 1:00ish, something like that when she got to your house. Yeah, that's that's the best. And she left by herself. You didn't like walk her past your front door? No, no, no. I She She walked out. She left. No, I I walked her to the front door. That's usually what I I don't I walk around the back of the patio. Do you guys argue at all? Um, so with Teresa, it's a little different. Um, it's not really arguing. It's she'll have like false memories that um, at first I would argue with and then after I got to understand the type of person she was, I stopped arguing with it and sort of just And what kind of false memories would she come up So she she would say that the the government abducted her five children. Mhm. And her five children were made in magic. But she's never had kids though, right? As far as to my knowledge. Uh do me a favor. You can read that over. Uh that's just you saying giving us consent to get your DNA. Okay. And then just uh whenever you're done, just sign there. And then what I'm going to do, North is uh I'm going to take some Q-tips. Okay. So far, North has tried to pick the credibility of everyone brought up in the case. Unknown to him, however, police have discovered another bit of evidence to destroy what little credibility he has. Law enforcement went to the bridge that the witness claimed to have picked North up from. Upon searching the area, they located a backpack belonging to Teresa, one of her baseball hats, and her vape pin. What about you? What were you wearing yesterday? Uh just like a white t-shirt. The clothes you got on? Not the clothes I have on. Um I think it was a different uh white t-shirt and um shorts. Where did you When did you change clothes? Like this morning or like I went when I went to go play basketball. Okay. Where are the clothes that you had on yesterday? Just on the at your parents house somewhere? Yeah, I think I I washed them out. Yeah. So the same clothes you have on now are the same ones you wore out to Cass's place. You didn't change out there? Um, no. Cuz I changed after I played basketball as well. Okay. At your parents house? Yeah. In the in the back patio before you went to Right. Right. Right. Right. What were that? What were you I mean, what was that? Just another white t-shirt. Um, yeah. And like shorts or what? Yeah. Yeah. I just Yeah. What about shoes? Um, the blueberries. I I wasn't able to bring them. I think I kind of got pulled out of uh Kansas house a little too quick. I wish I would have put more clothes on again. Oh, so you have shoes at Cass's house? Blue Spar? Yes, sir. That's what you wore yesterday, too? Yes, sir. Okay. You were Marlin Spar? And that's why I think I uh rolled the ankle. There's no spar. You ain't got no ankle support, man. No, I know that. And I have high top shoes. I just forgot to grab them. So, I just wanted to play basketball. And you said Terrell take you back home. What kind of car does Terrell have? I'm not sure exactly. I don't pay attention to cars like that. I want to say like a gold uh Honda or something. Gold Honda. So, and just one more time clarify the clothes that you have on now are not the same clothes you had on when you were with Teresa yesterday. No. Okay. Where are those clothes? At your parents? Um I Yeah, I would have already washed them. Yeah. Okay. At your parents house? Yeah. Are they Are they at Cass's house now? Because your parents pretty much packed up all your stuff, right? M or that are your clothes still maybe in the washing machine or something at your parents house. Something of that sort. I I don't know exactly where those clothes are. If you want me to, I can. Did you take a bunch of stuff to you when you went to Cass? Like did you take all your belongings like you were moving to Kazz? Okay. Did that include like a bag of clothing or suitcase? Okay. So, as far as you know, mo any of your clothing or anything you clothing should all be at Casses, right? Okay. Do you have other shoes besides the Blues Fairies? Yeah, I have um some black Nikes. Okay. But you were wearing blue sperries when you were went up to the park to play ball, right? Like slam ball basically. Looks like Well, not wear the black Nikes then to ball. That That was the plan. But once I got on the court, I was just like, "All right, let's play." Cool. So, you went to go knowing you were going to go play basketball at the park. You left your house with the Sparies on, not with the Nikes. All right, guys. What is this? Like story. Hey, look, man. Just your story's got a lot of holes. I mean, that's just being honest with you, you know, and you can't explain it. Yeah. And it's our job to Okay, I understand. I've tried everything I can with you guys. It if there's anything else, you know, more related to Teresa and helping her out. I would love to talk about it. That's what we're trying to get to. We're trying to get you to help us find Teresa. You were the last person that saw her, right? Okay. No, you were the last person. You know, I don't understand why I didn't make sure that I wore the high top Nikes instead of the Sparies and it cost it cost me my ankle and you know and that's how we live and we learn and but you understand we're going to come at you. No, I very careful because you're the last person that and I can respect that and totally understand that. Yeah. So, if you want to know why, well, a there's a lot of things that you were inconsistent about. Okay. Call it lying, call it inconsistent, label it whatever you want to label it, but the evidence is there that some of the stuff you told us when we started our conversation, right? Is not true. It's just not true. I'm sure that happens a lot with this type of situation. It's so hard to recall things. Sometimes when there's weeks in between, it's hard, but not just a few hours. You know, at the time we started talking to you this morning, there's only been like 12 hours in between this happening and I mean, I'm sleep deprived now. At this point, I've been kept in a room. I haven't been able to get sleep. It's It's It's been rough on me. Now, if you guys want to do this again on another day, then maybe I can do it for you. But at this point, I'm done. I'm done. Are you worried about Theresa? I mean, do you think there's legit something wrong with her? You think she's just out there shacked up somewhere? I'm praying that she's shacked up somewhere. As you know, tragically, Teresa wasn't just hiding out somewhere. Just 2 days after this interrogation, Teresa's body was located in the Sutton Lake subdivision along a pond. Her body had been covered in branches and debris in an attempt to conceal her. In March of 2022, North was arrested and charged with seconddegree murder. At trial, he pleaded guilty to killing her in exchange for 30 years in prison, followed by 10 years probation. He is set to be released in 201.