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She's lying on the floor. She's not moving. I li my suitcase. I lift her. I place her inside. I shut the suitcase. >> This is the suitcase killer. Rosindo Rodriguez III. A reserve Marine who would be given the death penalty for one of the most horrific cases Texas has ever seen. >> The man who became known as the suitcase killer is set to die this evening by lethal injection. But to understand what led him to an execution, we will need to uncover every piece of evidence that he left behind over the course of 14 years. Because behind each one are answers. Answers that will prove Summer was never his only victim. >> He is just a horrible, horrible person. Before he closed his eyes, he began to sing, "Here I go." He doesn't deserve to be on this earth. >> I checked to see if she was still reading. I noticed that, you know, she quit. Jesus, stop fighting. >> He wasn't bit sorry. He didn't care. He's only interested in himself. He just sociopath. >> These are Rosindo Rodriguez's last words. State may have my body, but not my soul. >> On September 13th, 2005, workers at a trash dump in Leach, Texas, made a discovery that would haunt them for life. In a suitcase, they found the body of 29-year-old Summer Baldwin. Full of life, but struggling with substance use disorder, Summer had friends throughout the city that immediately noticed she was missing [music] and were devastated to learn of her death. Tips from friends flooded in about her getting into a red truck the night she disappeared. But that wasn't the only tip. Inside the suitcase, police discovered a UPC number, a universal product code, which led them to where the suitcase had been sold, a local Walmart just down the street. After speaking with the surveillance team there, they were able to discover the footage of 25-year-old Rosindo Rodriguez III purchasing the suitcase at 3:00 in the morning, just hours after Summer had been last seen. Immediately after, he was pictured getting into a red truck matching the description of the vehicle she was last seen getting into. Rosindo, who wasn't a local, had been in town for a volunteer training program for the Marines, a job which thankfully meant that his DNA was already on file. and it was a perfect match for some of the evidence found with Summer's remains. After he initially refused to speak to police upon his arrest, he eventually caved, telling them a version of events that he felt made him look good, but you can judge that for yourself. The following footage was provided to us by the Love Police Department. >> Let me go on to uh the weekend of September 9th, 2005. >> Yes, sir. Uh my understanding that you had come to lo in reference to training for for the Marines came in reference to the military. >> Yes sir. >> And how did you arrive? >> I flew [snorts] in >> on what? >> Uh southwest Ireland. >> Southwest. Yes sir. >> We had um we had a drill weekend that weekend and also they had called and asked for volunteers for the hurricane Katrina relief and I as well as 20 other Marines have volunteered to go out there. Um, every time that they had called uh from the reserve center, I volunteered uh I volunteered to go to Fort Hood for two weeks. Uh I didn't need to go for an AT that those two weeks I volunteered to go to a uh army. >> Right now just want to kind of stick to that weekend. >> Oh, good sir. >> Um on the weekend of the night, you say you flew in uh on Friday. >> Yes. Southwest. Yes. Um, did you obtain any transportation? >> Yes, sir, I did. Uh, went to Enterprise. >> Enterprise rental. Is that where you rented the red dodge picked up? >> Yes. >> Um, tell me about that. Why did you Was there any special reason you rented the Dodge? >> The reason being is because they had told us that we were going to be possibly deployed for the hurricane Katrina relief. We're going to ride on convoy to Texar Canada. From Texas Arcana, we would go down to New Orleans to go down and help out. But uh they ended up putting us on standby after all. Um if I would have got a car, taking a car from San Antonio, I would had to leave it up there. So I got a truck. >> Anything that you think is relevant involving this case, let's go ahead and step back to that. Anything that you think is relevant, go ahead and explain to me. Keep in mind that this entire conversation is being important. Okay. um be as detailed as possible about what you actually go ahead. >> Okay. Um Saturday I had gotten out of uh Saturday night. I had gotten out of jail. I went to the uh hotel, got showered, squared away, everything. It's going to go down and bought a burger. I got something to eat. And then I came out and as I was driving down Q, I had noticed uh I had noticed a woman as she was walking down the street. So I uh stopped for each moment. Which motel are you saying that you stay? >> Uh holiday. >> Holiday in the one there at 8. >> Yes. >> And specifically what do you recall the room that you stay? >> Um 60 like I believe it was 609. >> 609. That's the information that we had as well. >> Go ahead. >> So, [snorts] I was driving down the street and I noticed a woman. She was walking on the as you're going north, I've noticed that she was on the right side of the street. So, I pulled up and uh she she was walking she was walking like this and looked like she was distressed. She was crying. I was like, "Excuse me, are you all right?" She goes, "Yes, I'm fine. I'm fine." You know, I was like, "Do you uh did you need some help? are you, you know, are you going to in trouble or something? And she No, I'm I'm fine. I'm fine. Just, you know, he's like, "Can you can you give me a ride?" I was like, "I'm fine." So, she gets in the truck, we go, and I was like, "Look, do you want me to call the police or something?" It looked like I I could tell something was wrong because she was distressed about something. So we were So she's like, "Yes, you know, um, if you can help me out, that's fine, but I don't I want, you know, I don't want you to call the cops." You know, she obviously did not want to have me call the authorities. So I told her, I mean, well, what happened? You know, did you get in a fight or something? you know, she goes, "Well, you know, she was telling me that she had gotten into some kind of altercation with and she said it like this this not not necessarily like a racial intonation, but she said like, "Okay, well, I mean, did you need me to like did you just need to get like cleaned up or something?" She's like, "Yes, if you don't mind, fine." So, we went to the room uh throughout the holiday. We go upstairs. We walk inside and she goes, you know, she uses a restroom, you know, she wipes off her, you know, face, you know, everything. We sit down. Uh, you know, I ask her, you know, are you okay? Are you, you know, all right? She's like, I'm fine. I just need, you know, calm down. I said, if I use your phone, go ahead. She go, she makes a phone call. I didn't pay attention to the gist of the conversation. I was I was watching TV. I said, did you need me to take you anywhere? She goes, would you mind taking me home? That's fine. So, we go downstairs to get in the truck. Before we let leave, she goes, "Is it cool if you go by the 7-Eleven?" I said, "Sure. It's a 7-Eleven that's located right across the street from the hotel." So, we go over there. She goes inside, she gets a couple items. As she's coming out, uh, she I guess she recognized some people. She because she goes into her car, she starts talking to a couple of folks. And as after she's down there, she's there for about 5 10 minutes. She gets up. She comes around to the truck. She gets in and then she tells me, she directs me to go over to 26th Avenue. I said, "All right." So, we go and there's a street that's perpendicular to 26. Not I'm not really uh sure which one it is. Guess it was a western one. Here's 26. Here's the other street. It was either N or P. I'm not sure. I pull up and I said, and she does not want me to pull up from the house. All she wants me to do is to stop, let her go at the other side of the street. She's going to walk the rest of the way. Go. And I let her go, turn around, go back to the hotel. >> You say that you were you were driving on MQ northbound. You see her walking along the side of the road. You decide to stop. Why did you decide to stop? >> Just because I mean just she she was like this, you know, crying. And I mean, you know, if if you were any kind of I mean, if you saw someone, you know, walking down the street and they're like, obviously something was wrong, you know, just like that. I mean, you know, somebody, you know, you're going to stop and they're going to say, "Hey, are you all right?" >> What a good guy, right? Stopping to help a poor struggling woman and expecting nothing in return. Unfortunately, this isn't a Disney movie. And Rosindo is far from Prince Charming because obviously this interaction didn't happen. There's no evidence that Roseno picked Summer or anyone up the night prior to Summer's murder. And if he did, he wasn't inviting them over to use his shower and leave. Because the area that he's describing picking up this stranger is an area that is well known for exotic work. And I don't know about you, but Rosindo doesn't strike me as the kind of person who is just looking for someone to talk to. >> Go ahead into Sunday. Now, into Sunday, um I woke up about probably 0 500. Went to drill. Uh got out of drill about I'd say about maybe 5:30, 6:00. Uh went to the hotel. uh went downstairs, got dressed, got squared away, and uh called my friend Chris. Uh we went out to the library to go. Actually, I went to go pick him up and stay at his apartment and talk to him for a while. We're going to go see a movie, but I needed to go to the library. >> The library, just for uh anyone who's not from What is the library? >> Uh the library is it's a bar. It's over the district. Um the uh the name of it is a library which is it's a common running drug. Most parents often wonder where their kids are at and they tell them they're in the library. You know it's a bar technically they're not lying. >> And how long do you all stay there? >> We stay there just probably about till I say maybe 12:31. No, we didn't shut the place down. >> Just saying. >> So, now you're actually getting into Monday morning. >> Yes. >> Right. Um, and about how much alcohol did you consume there at the library? >> I'd say about maybe 3 years. >> About 3 years. >> Let's go ahead and go forward now. >> Yes. >> So, you leave the library approximately 1:00 a.m. >> And you're driving the red pickup truck, right? Yes, sir. >> And where do y'all go? uh take him back to Jefferson. >> And was that his request, your decision? What? >> Uh well, I mean he was right with me. I went to go pick him up. So I mean there was naturally you dropped him off there. >> Um and then proceed for what you do next. Uh, I dropped him off at about probably around around 1 about 1:30. And it was about probably around I'd say 24th uh about 24th in 22nd that I noticed uh Summer. She was walking down the road on the right side. >> 24thQ >> about 24 26. This is about what time? >> I'd say about 1:30 2:00. >> And you notice you're walking down the road? >> Yeah. >> What brought your attention to her? >> I had She She looked familiar. >> So So I went I pulled up next to her. I was like, "Hey, how you doing?" Like that. She's like, "Fine." you know, she uh she was like she kind of looked a little I guess you'd say out of it, you know, she was like a little bit this motion. I was like, "Are you sure you're all right?" And she's like, "No, I'm I'm fine. I'm fine." And uh I was like, "Do you like did you need a ride somewhere?" She goes, "Is it cool if you just come and chill at your place?" Like that. Her voice is kind of waver. I was like, Yeah, that's fine. You know, just want to hang out. So, she gets in the truck and we go to the hotel. >> This is the same hotel in district they have. Um, so y'all go to the motel room. Is there anybody else there with you? >> Yes. Explain what goes on. >> Okay. Well, we sat on the bed. Uh, the lights were off. We're watching TV and uh I just asked her, you know, "How are you doing so far?" She said, "Fine." Spit out a little chitchat and uh then, you know, we were in kind of close proximity. So, we end up, you know, kind of like leaning towards each other, end up kissing. Um so, y'all end up kissing. Be as detailed as possible. explain to me what you're talking about as far as uh what what brought the conversation. >> Uh we were we were just we were just in close proximity and uh just talking you know just about uh she was telling me these things like you know she had moved to love and everything else. We were just watching TV and we just laid over start kissing on the bed. Sadly, Summer was involved in that kind of work to fuel an addiction that she fell into while living in Washington State. Police were well aware of this, and several of Summer's friends made sure they knew that. And I don't know about you, but a man on a business trip picking up a you know what worker up just to hang out at their motel doesn't exactly pass the smell test for me. Especially when you consider the fact that Rosindo's entire unit was staying at a different hotel and he went out of his way to request staying away from anyone who knew him. So let's move forward to point cases and that ultimately just explain in detail what occurred as far as from the kissing the point you're having intercourse. Describe what's going on. Um, we start, you know, kissing, bonding each other. Uh, she removes her clothes, I remove mine. Uh and as we're sitting there uh we're uh we just start uh we start having as we're she seemed I guess you say a little agitated maybe it was uh she she appeared to she was kind of like breathing a little like a little hard uh little it it sounded it sounded as though she was like just you know having a having a really you know [snorts] like just having a hard time I guess. Okay. And I go it's probably about maybe 10 minutes and then uh I stop. Um, let me stop there for a second. Get a little bit more detail here. Uh you you say uh were you using >> Yes. Um and where did you obtain? >> I had bought it from the uh I had believe it was across the street from someone. >> When did you purchase that? >> I had bought that probably at the beginning of the weekend. >> Beginning of the week. Uh >> around the beginning of the weekend maybe. I'd say maybe even that maybe even that night I believe in the weekend somewhere around there. I I purchased them on the 7-Eleven because I've been there like I've been at the 7-Eleven several times that weekend. Um, but you don't recall if it was that night or if you purchased something. >> Um, and you we're speaking about >> Yes, sir. >> was >> uh probably about three or four. Um, explain the uh that you were having as far as when you were involved. Um, was it the physical position that you both were in and where it occurred at? >> Um, gosh, probably her on the bed. Uh she was uh lying on her back and then also um her and her back and we were just like like moving around on the bed as she was on her back, >> you know? Uh we'd end up being like over here then we like scoot over here and scoot over here. >> Okay. Um and y'all had was it uh just normal? just normal. They don't do anything that some people might consider a little bit unusual. >> Now, this may seem like an invasive or unnecessary question, but in reality, it may be a nail in the coffin. Summer's injuries in her intimate areas prove that they were not the result of a typical encounter. Rosindo, denying that they did anything unusual, takes away his ability to say that their interaction was consensual. later on. >> She was discomforted by it. She was discomforted. It looked like kind of like the whole time. So, >> what do you mean she was discomforted? Was she verbally saying she was discomfort? >> No, she she like had a like it's a look on her face like she was pain. >> Okay. And is that the whole time that when you started? >> Yeah, it was the whole time. >> But yet, y'all continued on for 10 minutes or something? >> Yes. And why was that? >> Uh that I asked her I was like are you fine? She's like yes. >> Um let's go forward now. decided and then after we're done, I go get a pair of shorts, um, turn on the light, go around to go use the restroom, and I go to the sink, wash myself off, and as I'm coming back around, uh, she's she's sitting, she's facing away from me, uh, like here's the edge of the bed, here's the chair, here's the table, and she's leaning over and it looks like, you know, she's I heard like, you know, she's lighting something. I figured I know she was lighting a cigarette, maybe uh it was a smoking room, you know, I figured, you know, wasn't uh you know, when I walked up, I saw that she had a pipe. I didn't think, you know, she was I didn't think she was like that. It's light in a pipe was like metallic with like silver with like little gold nubs and at the end it looks like one of those things that you used to scrub pots with u like SOS or like a brillow. And when I saw that I told her I was like hey what are you doing? And she didn't respond. She just kept lighting it. It was a metallic burning smell, like a chemical smell. And I told her, hey, hey, you know, don't do that. And I took the pipe away. I was like, you know, hey, you know, don't do that stuff. She got out of it right at that point. She said, you know, you know, this and that. I like, no, I don't want you to I don't want you to smoke that here. I, you know, why don't you just go ahead and, you know, get dressed. And so at this point she still >> Yes sir. >> So does she begin getting dressed? >> No. >> As detailed as possible. >> So I turn around, but I figure she's going for her clothes. She goes into her bag. She pulls out a knife. It's one of those little yellow fold out ones. It looks yellowish, kind of like a like bone wood. And she stands up and she comes towards me. She was going to give my at that point thinking, "Oh shit." It's like, "Look, I was like, you know, take it. just, you know, get dressed, you know, leave. She goes, you know, and everything else like that. Starts coming towards me. She asks, you know, where's your where's your wallet? You know, told her, look, it's over there. It's just don't, you know, don't don't don't swipe at me. Don't you know don't don't cut me, please. Once again, Rosindo's story has detectives rolling their eyes. Because look, I'm not a thief. But if Summer's intent all along was to rob him, wouldn't she have done it before the events he's described rather than after they had a supposed consensual encounter? >> She has the knife like me. She has a knife in her right hand. Now she comes towards me. I reach for her wrist, the one that has a knife, and I go and I pull her arm around like this. Like that. >> So, you pull you pull the arm around behind her? >> Yes, sir. >> Where are you at? You're behind her at this point. >> Yes, sir. >> Standing in the room. >> Uh, we're standing still kind of uh like here's the bed, there's the table, there's the chair. We're standing up right here above the bed. So, as I have her there, I grab I grab her hand, the one that has a knife in it. I grab it with this hand and with my other hand, I have it around her like this. >> Okay. Grab her throat like that. >> Yeah. Her hand, her arm around her throat. >> No, >> your her arm is right here with the knife and it's right here. That's where her arm is. My arm came around her neck like that. And I and I tell her, you know, hey, quit, you know, chop the knife, you know, quit, you know, this ain't I'm not I was like, just, you know, quit quit trying to, you know, swinging on back and forth. You know, she's all this starting to struggle. [sighs] We fall kind of like towards uh towards the bed on the uh like where the chair on the table is. And she [sighs] she had this it was like a you know just just this grunting sound like like that. And she kept swinging the knife around and it's right there. She's man uh she's like you know grabbing on my arm with a knife. Her that's when I noticed her nose started her nose started bleeding like just this gush of like blood just comes down like right there by the by the bed kind of like on the floor also just on the side right there. She rears back. We kind of fall back. I don't fall. We stumble and we start falling back, you know, and towards where the door was, going back towards the door. She's still, you know, kicking. I've got a hold of her hand. The knife's still flicking around and I'm going over towards the door and I'm thinking, "All right, I'm going to throw her out." But the only thing is is that if I let go of her hand, the knife's going to come out to me. over her arm, she's going to get, you know, start swinging with her arm. So instead, you know, we're sitting there, we're fighting by the door. And I tell her, "No, drop the knife. Let it go." You know, she still wouldn't. Finally, she I noticed that, you know, she she quit. You know, she she stopped fighting. So I go and I go and I let her go but she was like she was lying across from where the carpet meets the top floor from the bathroom. [sighs] I sit sit there on the toilet and I at this point I'm I'm panicking. I'm freaking out. I'm my arm is sitting there. It's It's shaking because I had it rigid for so long. She's lying on the floor. She's not moving. She's lying on the floor. She's not moving. I'm sitting there just scared. So, I go and I check I check to see if she was still breathing. I die checkered also risk number [snorts] [sighs] just a million things started running through online I couldn't believe what was happening I I just I didn't I didn't know what to do. >> What you don't do is literally anything that Rosindo has done here. The injuries to Summer's body were extensive, including individual areas that suffered bruising or fractures. The marks on her body weren't marks from someone simply trying to get her to stop coming towards them. The marks were from someone who enjoyed seeing her in pain. What did you put on? >> I put on my shirt. I put on so I had sandals and I thought I should have I should have called I should call him. >> During this time that you're deliberating on what to do. You say you have the presence in mind to check for pulse. Correct. Military training. Did you receive any first aid training? >> Yes, sir. >> Uh, did you receive any training as far as CPR? >> Yes, sir. The only thing was that her face was, you know, she had blood, you know, like on her on her nose and her mouth. >> You were a trained par, correct? Yes. >> Um, did you attempt CPR? She I didn't after after I checked her. I didn't get a pulse. I just I I didn't think I didn't think to try to resuscitate. I went downstairs, got in the truck, drove to Walmart, bought a suitcase, >> which Walmart is >> uh it's the one over on South. Bought a I bought a suitcase and I bought some clothes because there was there was blood there. left, went back to the hotel. >> So, you bought a suitcase and disposable gloves. >> Yes, sir. >> And you paid for those. How? >> Uh, used card. >> Go ahead. Go for it. What do you decide to do next? >> Go to the hotel. And I the suitcase I lift her. I place her inside. I shut the suitcase. >> And so you put her in the suitcase. Do you recall how you had to place her in the suitcase? Can you describe that to >> uh like that? >> Indicating that you had to like fold her body in there. Is that correct? Uh, no. >> You say a little. Did you have to break anything? >> No, sir. >> Hit anything like that or be able to just >> No, sir. It was It was just, you know, just all I did was just place her in there. It wasn't kind of like >> So, you place um What did you do next? >> [sighs] >> I went and I got uh one of those holiday in the dry clean bags that they have on the closet. I got it. I collected her clothing. Um got some of the hotel towels. Uh wiped up some of the blood. By this time, I already had the gloves on. >> Okay. >> Uh wiped up some of the blood. Uh placed all these articles on the bag. Uh there was a sheet on the bed that I had taken off. uh had a little bit of blood on it. Uh they sent back, as I was going through, I I had uh noticed that, you know, there were uh two knives. One was metallic, the other one was the one that was over there by the bathroom, the one that she had. Uh, I went I placed those I put them on the bed. After that, the elevator came. I went downstairs. I took the suitcase and the and took the suitcase and the bag, the clothing, my handbag. I put it in the truck. I got in the truck. I went down and over by where the water center is. Okay. I go I turn down that street where the Okay. Here's a water Olympic center, right? There's a street. I turn right and then I take like another right in a residential uh neighborhood. Uh I pull into an alley and I go down and I pull uh around to a dumpster that's at the end. And I remember it had like uh there's the alley, then there's uh some grass with like three trees on it. The dumpster's right here in the alley, but there's a street running behind that. And I go, I pick up the suitcase facing the dumpster. I drive down, take the bag and the uh and her handbag, the purse, throw in the dumpster uh probably like maybe few dumpsters down and then I leave. >> The district attorney assigned to the case described Rosindo's retelling of events as if he was talking about going for a coffee. And that couldn't be more accurate. In fact, his actions in the hours after her murder reflect this. Soon after he came back to the hotel room from dumping her body, he got gussied up and took a selfie in the hotel mirror, one that promptly went on to one of his many dating profiles. And there was more. >> Okay. Um, what did you do next? >> I I got in a truck. I went to the hotel. U sat there. I stayed up for a while just kind of just out of it. I mean, you know, I I I couldn't believe what just happened. So, after a while, I went to sleep. >> Okay. So, you went to sleep. Um, about what time is that? >> About 8:00. >> 8 a.m. Yes. >> Yes, sir. >> Did you go over to the 7-Eleven? Any comment about that? >> Uh I'm I might have uh I The only thing I remember else doing was probably maybe going to Chick-fil-A, going to go see something to eat, going to 7-Eleven. Uh made an ATM withdrawal. That was about it. you go back to your rank or what did you do after that? >> Uh just I just sat there. I got a movie. I watched Star Wars. >> Okay. So you rented a movie on in the motel room? >> Yes, sir. >> About what time is that? >> Uh that I couldn't quite say. I probably about maybe 4:35. I I would imagine. I don't know. >> So you rent you rent Star Wars. >> That's right. and you watch Star Wars. Uh, did you call anyone else? >> Um, >> I tried calling probably Chris. I may have talked to my parents. >> I guess we've already talked to Chris. Do you recall calling Chris? >> Um, I might have. I don't know. I think he he tried calling me also. Um, do you recall talking with Chris and saying that you wanted to hang out? >> Uh, he he had mentioned the fact that he wanted he wanted to hang out, but that he couldn't. He had a bunch of stuff to do. He was tired. Uh, so >> So you recall that conversation? >> Yes, sir. >> When you uh when you checked out, when was that? >> It was the next morning. >> Tuesday morning. >> Yes, sir. About what time? Uh, it was probably around maybe 9 10:00. I'm not quite sure. I had catch a bus. Great. >> Um, we have copies of that information. We had two bags. Bus. How many bags did you have? >> I had two duffel bags and then I had my uh my combat backpack. Um, and you decided to take the knives with you. >> Yes, sir. >> Correct. >> Yes, sir. >> Why did you do that? >> Because at a later point, I wanted to contact the authorities. >> You say that later point you want to contact the police, correct? >> Yes, sir. >> And I'm assuming you're saying that you wanted to contact authorities to talk about what happened. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Um, your father's an attorney, not Yes, sir. >> How long has he been an attorney? I've graduated tech law in about 1976 I think. >> So you say that you've been an attorney probably close to 30 years. >> Yes sir. >> Would you would you believe that your knowledge of the legal process the judic system is probably a little bit above the average individual [gasps] >> because of your association with your father? >> I would say so. I mean it it's a lot of guesses. Um, hence you took the knives with you that you're saying that we're involved in this matter, right? Um, you know, if I understood you correctly, you say that you discarded that you say she threw it away. >> How come you didn't? Because >> um, this matter is involving the death of an individual. >> Correct. And you [clears throat] say the reason it started all this according to you is because of >> but yet you discard is that correct what you >> Yes sir. Because if >> if I would have had this pipe on me and say I don't know like a police officer or something they walk through. You're not you know you can't I do not want to carry any kind of drugs on me. That's >> you don't want to carry any kind of drugs, but you're transporting a deceased person stuff in the suitcase. >> Like >> you're saying you're saying you got, you know, above average perception of the legal system. >> Yes, sir. >> Enough to take these knives. You say we're involved. The whole matter started and and you start to discard it. You're carrying a deceased person's body around in the suitcase. >> Yes. I'm just I'm just want to clear I understand. >> Rosindo's father, Rosindo I was a prominent attorney for nearly two decades. According to his own words, he assaulted his wife often and was an alcoholic which negatively influenced Rosendo III, which isn't the defense that either of them thinks it is for these heinous actions. >> Uh there was two sets of gloves found in that bag. It has I'll give you that we have recovered the bag started in the trash and It had information evidence in it which appears at this time the DNA on it appears to be consistent with evidence in this case. There's two sets in this. Why why the two sets? >> Um because whenever I guess whenever you take them out like stuck together both both pairs >> wear them at different times. >> No sir not that I recall. I recall that one. So there wouldn't be any reason for your DNA to be inside. >> Uh I wouldn't think so. >> Did you tell anybody else? Did you tell anybody about this? >> No sir. >> Did you seek guidance from anyone? A priest, attorney, a friend? Yes. Um do you recall talking with And and some of the things I'm going to ask you now is it's related to this because it involves this entire weekend, but a lot of this is coming down to your word against a female's word that cannot speak for herself because she's no longer experiences. I told him that I had been that I've gone through the Marines and he's going to Iraq. Our units leave a do you recall sharing rather graphic stories with him about instances you've been involved in issues where you've been deployed right? >> Um not nothing. I told him that, you know, I had seen scenes about uh, you know, people being blown up and stuff like that as far as, you know, what they showed us and stuff like that. Do you recall specifically saying though that you were involved in these and you were alleging according to that you were actually deployed? Uh he he asked me if I had been and I kind of you know told him I had been over there but >> So you told you you had been deployed to Iraq. Why did you give false information surrounding uh supposed deployment to Iraq war situation? >> Just because he seemed curious about it. I just got to his imagination. >> I'm sorry. I just kind of fed his imagination. >> So you fed his imagination by talking about that. So you did talk to him about issues when you were never actually deployed. Is that right? >> You could write Rosindo's war history on a grain of rice. Not once had he ever been deployed to anywhere, let alone Iraq. However, his history at his college fraternity, Chiro, would take a couple of books to fill out because what he was doing there paints a picture of a man that should have been stopped much sooner than this interrogation. >> Would you say that was it that one instance that led to you leaving Cairo, as you say, under bad luck, or were there other instances brought forth about inappropriate contact with? >> Uh, there were some girls that I had dated in there. I talked to one girl while I was dating another one and uh they got they got mad about that and so everybody was just like you know what I was like name is best. >> Do you remember those girl scenes? Um and Jennifer and >> what about allegations of these girls or all the way >> uh that those were on you because I had heard uh from one of the people that I met that night the rare Christmas department that uh they said that yes they had gotten together and completed in order to get me kicked out of Paris. Um, do you think any one of those girls particular any certain instance that you can recall that you say they believe? What's what's one specific instance you can recall? >> Uh, when I was sitting there, I was talking to uh uh this girl that was over at Chris's apartment. She had said that uh one of the girls in Mela had been uh was talking to her one night after party and said that yes that she had >> I'm talking about specific instance that you say taken out of context or something that >> did you ever have? >> Uh yes. >> How many? Um about I'd say five >> um about five girls. And what >> um with him it was casual. uh >> to you in general. say um it depends if uh if I meet a girl who like I really really like then you know it's emotional it's caring but if I meet a girl that you know we meet for for maybe a few days maybe a few weeks you know it's like a six month flame something like that I just take I it just depends on the situation to this serious. >> Um would it be or do you recall making a phrase to someone that is like a handshake? It's a way of saying hello and it's a way to say goodbye. You recall making a comment to someone? >> No, I nothing like that. Just I remarked that it's to me it's casual at times for some it's not. people know that you know uh people that I get involved with that I do get emotional and you know I do care for them you know but it's not like uh you know it's not in every instance or situation. Has there ever been an allegation against you or >> as far as like any of the stuff that was false and cut open that >> do you recall working South Plains Mall at a place called Image Plus? >> Yes, sir. >> Back in 2003. >> Yes, sir. Do you recall talking to an investigator with the local police department about an allegation that made this? >> I do remember that. But as far as you know, he said that someone that was unidentified and I was never contacted about it again. >> Um, tell me about the instance where you went to this girl's house. >> Uh, I had never went by, sir. >> You never went by? >> No sir. >> No, sir. That's what you're saying you call? >> Yes, sir. Throughout his time at Texas Tech University, Rosinda was the alleged perpetrator in numerous attacks on women. All of the stories told to police after his arrest by women who didn't even know one another were nearly identical. Rosindo would woo them, charm them, and then in the midst of an encounter would become violent. After the encounter, he would send the women off, pat them on the head, and tell them things were going to be fine. They would then never hear from him again. And tragically, this didn't stop at Texas Tech. >> Do you recall talking to a female and making a statement that you knew seven different ways to kill somebody with your bare hands? >> No, sir. >> You say you don't recall ever? >> No, sir. >> Would it be fair to say that you know seven different ways to kill somebody with your hand? Um, >> I mean you can, but I never >> from your training in the Marines. >> Did you receive any training on how to terminate someone's life with your bare hands on? >> Yes. >> Would it be more than one way? >> Yes. The manner that you demonstrated to me just a moment ago in reference to this was that any of the training that you received >> as far as that th >> Yes sir. >> So that was training that you would receive the Marines. >> Yes sir. But it said it's only meant as a submissive. We know it's not meant as a >> um but apparently somehow it turned out to be >> Yes, sir. >> Did you make any other physical contact with her? Any type of hitting? >> No, [clears throat] sir. >> Any type of shoving? >> No, sir. >> Did you knock her to the floor? >> No, sir. >> Did you push her against the wall? >> No, sir. >> You also received training on how to resuscitate someone? >> Yes, sir. telling me from your own words just a moment ago that you had caused this woman to be laying on the floor with no pulse and you don't respond. You don't, you know, you say you're in control enough to control your own temper and your own actions, but yet you say you're so out of control that you don't know what to do. You don't know how to get CPR even though you've been trained to do that. Can you explain to me, explain to Albert Sutton and ultimately the district attorney's office and a jury, can you explain to me why you did that or why you failed that? >> Because when I was sitting there on the toilet, you know, I figured, you know, all right, I was I didn't think I I I was panicking. I couldn't believe what just happened. Uh when I looked down at her, you know, her face is covered in blood. I I didn't want to put, you know, my mouth, you know, on her on on over her mouth. I I just didn't think to do it. >> Okay. Yeah. I was panicking at that point. >> Okay. Just minutes before, right? >> Yes, sir. >> Right. Yes. Um, and then just to recap, so I understand correctly, you still had a presence of mind to go ahead and then go to Walmart and make these purchases we talked about the suitcase and the gloves and gun. How come during that process having the exceptional or the elevated understanding of this system did you not call 911? >> Because I immediately at that point I thought my god what did I do? Uh I panicked about you know uh my career in the military. Uh how would you know I just panicked. I I I I can't I don't know how I was doing. >> Um would it be fair to say that uh you had stopped panicking when you were watching Star Wars Monday evening? >> Uh I bought the movie just to you know just to watch but I really didn't really wasn't paying attention to it. >> Okay. Would it be fair to say that you stopped panicking when you went down the ATM and got money and bought lunch that Monday? >> Oh yes sir. Okay. So, at that point, you stop. How come you didn't call your father who's an attorney, and ask for advice? >> Because it's not something exactly you want to say over the phone. I mean, it's something, you know, you're going to want to tell somebody, you know, up front in person. >> How come having your elevated understanding of the judicial system, you didn't go ahead and call the police at that point and get your side of the story out? I mean, you could you had every opportunity to call an attorney yesterday. You're you're you're buying lunch. You're watching Star Wars. You can easily have called an attorney and had all this counseling before the police even became aware before you left. >> How come you didn't do that? >> It's because I wanted to go to San Antonio and eventually talk to my dad about it. >> Rosindo's father was at his trial as well as his mother and sisters trying to defend him. They pointed out that Roseno had a young son to take care of, though they neglected to mention that he had only seen his son three times in his entire life and that his victims sadly would never see their families ever again. Because despite what you're about to hear Rosundo say, Summer isn't the only woman he's killed. >> You're telling me that she had a knife? Yes, sir. >> And that your back was turned. >> Yes. You would go ahead and turn. Okay. And you're saying that she had a knife in her right hand? >> Correct. Demonstrate to me in the sequence of events what had occurred in the pipe. I was going to turn uh she was sitting there. She was following around. Okay. >> Where's the doorway at this point? Point the doorway. >> Right there. >> So there's the doorway directly in front of you. She's standing behind you. >> Why didn't you just go to the door? >> Uh because I didn't want her, you know, running out the step. Okay, it's got the this. So, you have a hole. Go ahead and move the hole. You have this hole here. Okay. She has the knife right here. >> Turn this way. >> She has the knife here. >> Correct. And you're holding her in this choke. And you say she's continuing to move the knife around. >> It's about right. Right about there. >> Um, did you sustain any cuts in here? >> Uh, no, seriously. >> If you go ahead and put your hands back. >> There's no cuts, but >> no cuts. >> No, she's swinging the >> Okay, so now is it over here or is it over here? >> No, >> it's right here. Keep swinging it back and forth over here like that. With her other hand, she's trying to sit here and like scratch at me, scratch my arm, something like that. She has this. She's trying to to get Why? What? She's trying to get I get it. I guess that you're saying with this hand. >> Yes, sir. She's She's going She's cling on my shoulder, my face. >> How long do you say that this type of altercation was going on? >> Oh, this? Yes. >> Oh, double time. She was like moving back and forth. >> You're saying she's moving back and forth. How long the duration? Um, from the time that from the time that she, you know, had the knife all the way until I was able to until she stopped resisting till she stopped. >> Time say about five about 3 minutes. Five minutes. [cough] >> 35 minutes. be fine. >> Do you think your actions occur here representing >> and defending myself and and you know trying to protect myself we have a measure of self worth and self-preservation as far as like calling you right off the bat as far as me wanting to contact you all wanting to have this interview? Yes. [cough] >> So you say that you feel that your actions are appropriate or not? uh at the time when I didn't call you know but sitting here having this interview tell yes what about your actions as far as mean having presence in mind to obtaining a suitcase with gloves so that you didn't get any blood contamination crosscontamination disposing of the body in a dumpster disposing of the wallet a different dumpster. Do you think that represented proper actions of a marine a like I said at that time I I was I wasn't a good friend of mine. >> Did you know that she was pregnant? >> No. No, sir. That I did not know. It wasn't until, you know, I saw the the news and everything, you know, that, you know, she was possibly pregnant. That's the only time I ever felt. I never knew. I've been doing this a long time. That's right. And I've heard an array of different stories, some true, some not true. That's right. Um, I'm telling you now, some of the information that you're giving us is not consistent. I'm telling you now that I'm offering you an opportunity to explain this further. Anything you think we need to be made aware of ultimately a jury needs to make aware. This is a good opportunity you can come forward on this. >> Okay. What is it that >> you're going to leave it at that and I'm I'm offering you an opportunity to expound on yourself what has occurred here. any of the events that have occurred. Is there any other details that you think the jury needs to be made aware of or that police department? That's whatever you need to ask, whatever you need to know. That's all that I can offer. >> And you realize that this information has been completely recorded serve as a voluntary statement criminal investigation. clearly among militia. >> It's approximately 11:35 hours. This will conclude the record portion of this. [snorts] While doing a deep dive through Rosindo's computer, police discovered that he had been in contact with 16-year-old Joanna Rogers, a young Leach girl who went missing during the summer of 2004. Her body had never been found. Desperate for answers and suspecting that Rosinda was involved, police offered him a deal. If he plead guilty to both of their murders and told them what he had done with Joanna's body, they wouldn't pursue the death penalty. Rosindo agreed, telling them that he had met up with Joanna for intimacy, but she became angry, trying to steal money from him. In his version of events, he only killed her in self-defense. Just a reminder here, Joanna did well in school, had no criminal record, and was a kind, smart, loving girl. A girl who likely was wooed and targeted by Rosindo so that he could kill her. With Rosindo's tip on where he dumped her body, police were able to locate Joanna in the same dump that they had discovered Summer. She too had been placed in a suitcase and abandoned. Two innocent women with one perpetrator. A perpetrator who for the millionth time in his life decided not to follow the rules. He refused to plead guilty before the court, leading to a full trial for the murder of Summer and Joanna. As a result, he received the death penalty. That death penalty was carried out on March 26th, 2018. His final words were, "Lastly, I want everyone to boycott every single business in the state of Texas until all the businesses are pressed to stop the death penalty." He died 20 minutes later. Our thoughts are with the families, friends, and communities that surrounded Summer and Joanna all their lives. Thank you for watching today's video. Whether you're new here or have been with us for a while, check out one of the craziest cases I've ever covered right here or one of my newest uploads right here.
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