We've been talking to your fiance. >> Your idea, her idea? >> Cuz I can almost guarantee you that she said it was her idea. >> This bottle of cringe is 28-year-old Aaron Lambertus. Right now, Aaron is blaming his 19-year-old fiance, Isla, for a shooting he committed, one that nearly left two people dead. >> Does she have something on her or does she? >> I will be extremely open and honest about everything. I just need to know what she told you guys. >> And over the course of this interrogation, this knucklehead will bombard detectives with his crybaby excuses. >> I just tried to scare somebody. So, only time I feel my humanity come back. >> In a shocking admission, one that will lead police across the country investigating a decade-old murder. >> I remember helping him put the body and throwing it in the river, and then waking up back at home. >> I'm not sorry that you guys are here. I'm sorry that that's what I literally had to do to feel like a human. >> On a simmering night in August of 2023, police in Loveland, Colorado were called to a local Safeway parking lot by numerous bystanders who had witnessed the unthinkable. A car with Montana plates had slowly circled in the parking lot, stopped in front of three sleeping homeless individuals, and unleashed a round after round of bullets at them. The car then sped away, >> [music] >> leaving one individual out on the pavement. The victim was rushed to the ER where they were treated for a non-life-threatening injury. One other victim at the scene received [music] a scrape on their arm from a bullet, while another was miraculously unharmed. The three targeted individuals had no enemies and were simply trying to find a safe place [music] to sleep, which left police with a sinking feeling. Whoever had done this wasn't targeting the people specifically. They were doing [music] it for the thrill. Fortunately, it only took law enforcement a few days to track down who the car belonged to because, well, this is the 2020s >> [music] >> and everyone should be well aware that there are cameras everywhere. The car was identified and tracked back to 27-year-old Aaron Elias Lemburgitis, a transgender man living in Bozeman, Montana. But, he hadn't been the only one in the car. His 19-year-old girlfriend, Ayla Yvonne Osterloh, >> [music] >> had been identified as the driver of the vehicle. Both were taken into custody in Montana [music] and questioned by Colorado police. And Aaron here starts the interrogation with a bang. >> I'm Sergeant Gerard. Hey, what's up? How you doing? >> [ __ ] sick as [ __ ] >> Oh, yeah. What are you sick with? >> the flu. >> Oh, no. >> I'm like, dude, freezing in here. >> Yeah, I've heard that. >> I'm wearing more layers, but >> we'll see what we can do. Have you been offered any water or anything like that? >> No. >> Do you want some water? It's It's been It's been a little bit. I mean, I haven't been offered this point. >> Honestly, I think I might throw it up if I have it. >> Okay, well, >> If you can get nicotine, though, then one of my dip pouches would be lit, but if you can't do that, then it's all good. >> I won't make any promises cuz it's Montana's house, and I'm from Colorado, so I don't want to make any promises I can't keep. But, we'll we'll ask and see what we can do, okay? >> Am I under arrest? >> You are. >> Okay. >> So, we're going to get to that. Um, clearly, it sounds like it was quite the event, but you are under arrest. You're not free to leave. But, you know, with that said, there's some things that we do want to talk about, and of course, our state Yeah, this form, we have all these rules that we we have to abide by. Um, I want to use those to you just to make sure we're we're on the [snorts] same page. Just know that we've been through the last hour, we've been talking to your fiance, and and she's fine. I just wanted you to know that, okay? >> Is she also under arrest? >> Yes, but she's she's fine. I just want you to have peace of mind, not her. >> any chance I could see her before we go? I don't want to talk to her. I just I want to give her >> No, we'll cross that bridge and and figure that out when we're done here, okay? I'm not making you a promise or anything like that. I just We don't run the show here. All right. We This is Montana and we're from Colorado, so but we'll we'll figure something. I'll inquire for you, okay? I promise you. >> I mean, I'm willing to help you guys out, too. I know three different blow dealers that get bricks and bricks. If you can hook me up, I will give you names and addresses of three different people that sell blow and H and pounds and pounds of Well, let's just start with some >> some basics here. You're just might just selling your full name >> So, again, this is I'm literally just going to read right off of here that way I don't mess anything up. Do you read and understand the English language? >> Yes. >> Just check that if that's all right. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to the presence of an attorney prior to questioning to have your attorney present during questioning if you so >> Does that mean right now? >> What's that? >> Does that mean right now? >> Yes. >> Then I want my attorney present. >> Okay. Well, if you don't if you can't afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you free of charge. >> Money is not >> prior to questioning and Okay. So, my understanding just I want to be absolutely clear, so you don't want to speak with us without your attorney present. >> I know from having a defense attorney as a dad that a lot of things that I say now could very easily be used [clears throat] against me later. So, I just don't want that to be the case. >> Okay. >> I am very happy to sit and talk to you guys, but it's going to take hours to get an attorney, but I also don't want to get screwed over. >> Well, and I'm not trying to screw you over, either, but we have to be clear about this, right? Like, if you're saying you won't talk to us without an attorney, I mean we're going to respect that. We're not going to keep an attorney for hours just just to have you talk, right? So, I just need you to be clear. >> What [snorts] do you guys know? >> [clears throat] >> Like seriously, what did she tell you? Cuz if she told you everything then I it's not worth me waiting for an attorney. >> I mean >> I know that you can say that. >> Look, I I want to have this full I mean I'm not wanting to >> I don't just just a like I don't want to have a one-sided conversation. I know to have a two-sided conversation. >> be extremely open and honest about everything. I just need to know what she told you guys cuz I don't want to get her in more trouble. >> Yeah, unfortunately, she's in a good amount of trouble right now. Like I mean that's why that's why we wanted to talk to you, but we we under we operate under very strict rules federally and I can't you know, I can't violate anyone's rights. Yours, hers, anyone's. >> I know that. >> Let me make this very clear. >> I don't need an attorney. >> I'm just going to read it through and just so we're all on the same page, okay? >> Bragging that your daddy is a defense lawyer isn't exactly a flex when it's written all over your face that you've got daddy issues, quite literally. Aaron's backtracking here once he realizes that he's going to be left alone with his thoughts and that his fiancee Ayla is also in trouble might set a record for quickest relinquishing of rights. And we're about to learn that evidently Aaron never learned the phrase snitches get stitches. >> So if you guys can try your best to help me out with her, I will be honest and open about everything. >> Are you still referring to attorney or to >> No, I mean I just I just want to be able to see her and make sure she's all right. >> Okay. What I can tell you this is I can't promise you that. I'm not going to sit here and lie to you cuz we don't do that. >> to promise that. >> I get that, but I will like I told you what I will promise you is we'll inquire, okay? But we just want to make sure something's very clear to you, okay? Initially, you said you wanted an attorney, okay? And we have to make sure that we're not threatening you, coercing you, or promising you anything in order for you to talk to us. >> You're definitely not. >> Okay. You talking to us is completely voluntary. In regards to not having an attorney here, and we are not influencing you in any way. >> not. You're not promising me anything. You're not forcing me to talk. >> So, you're saying you do not want an attorney and you want to talk about why we're here from Loveland, Colorado. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> [snorts] >> I'll tell you one [snorts] thing right now is you're going to get but the truth from Detective Medina and myself. We we just don't roll that way. And and hopefully we can get the same respect and courtesy from you. >> I'm not going to lie. >> I appreciate you. Thank you. >> That's That's the biggest thing. So, obviously we're from Colorado. So, you know that you were in Colorado, and that's kind of where we want to start this. Just tell me about your guys's your guys's trip to Colorado. >> Uh we just went down to visit the national parks and to see her family. That's literally it. That's the only reason we're there. We went to two of the parks and then it's like, "Bro, we are exhausted. We can't do the other two." We just didn't do it. So, we ended up staying at Grandma's and then we just made our way back home and came back like a day early, I think. >> How long was the trip supposed to be? >> Oh god. I think it was supposed to be a week or 8 days. I'm pretty sure we were there for a week. >> When did you leave? >> I have no idea. You would have to ask her. My memory is is the size of a goldfish. It's awful. >> Well, don't you make anything up. >> Fair enough. Um what time did you guys get back? >> 2 days ago, probably 6:00 or 7:00 a.m. We got back really early to the point where I mean I was sick as [ __ ] for 2 days prior to that and I woke up in the car and we were in Billings. So, I'm like, "Dude, it's 6:41." Still with the >> the flu? >> Mhm. >> Oh, man. So, 2 days ago is today is Friday, yesterday would be Thursday, and then Wednesday or Tuesday. >> or Wednesday that we got back. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I'm going to say it was about a week but you guys Yeah, [clears throat] really. All right. And then you went to the two parks. Which which two parks were they? >> One Um >> Do you know the parks? Can you name them off? Oh, man. Honestly, I'm not as outdoorsy as some of the the other people. >> I know we went to the sand dunes, but we got there so late that we were just able to go to the visitor center. We did the junior ranger program for that and then just see the dunes and leave cuz I didn't know that there wasn't a road that goes right by them. >> Mhm. >> You have to literally either go hike them or do an off-roading trail, but you have to get a pre-pass to do that. And then it was Rocky Mountain. >> Tell me about your guys' relationship. Who is she to you? >> Um she's my That is my wife, for real. I mean, I am so in love with that I'd do anything for her. I mean, she got me through some really hard stuff with I mean, just my life in general and then my ex-wife that was super abusive and just disgusting. And it's been a year of trying to get that divorce filed and it's been such a pain in the and still hasn't been done cuz she didn't file her papers back when they mailed them to her. And then I had to go and get my name changed and that was a whole [ __ ] show with her. Oh, well, why the hell aren't we divorced? Cuz you didn't fill the papers back out. [clears throat] So, now it's still waiting to get redone. >> So, how long have you known Ela for? >> About a year and a half. >> How did you guys meet? >> She used to work with my ex-wife. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, [snorts] that that was fine. Um and then my ex-wife forced me to go to trivia nights with her and all of her coworkers when we probably got together. >> It's not really my cup of tea. >> No way. It was miserable. Neither one of us like trivia or bars cuz we both have alcoholic trauma, but what is it? >> It's about a year and a half and you you guys are married now or are you guys engaged? >> Not [snorts] legally, but yeah, it was the whole Well, I have a witness, so technically I can do it myself even though it's not legal, right? So technically married, but we're engaged and her whole family knows that. >> When did that happen? >> Oh god, back in November, late November. >> Well, late congratulations, but I mean one thing I've I've gotten just already talking >> you were talking to her as you guys >> You guys have a very strong bond. >> Yeah. >> That's kind of what I've heard. >> Ayla and Aaron became engaged in May of 2023 when Ayla was 18 years old. The two immediately moved in together and commiserated over their self-proclaimed mental health and family problems. Despite the fact that Ayla's family was reportedly very loving and accepting of the couple. So much so that they welcomed them to visit with open arms anytime. >> But the reason we're having this conversation today is obviously we know that you guys were in Colorado. We also know that you guys were in northern Colorado and specifically Loveland. Um and that car you guys were in, that's kind of how we ended up all the way here in Montana. Um and you were mentioning, you know, stuff about drug dealers and stuff like that. I'll be I'll be honest, man. I never really got into the whole narcotics cop thing. Like I had a lot of friends that they were s- they were smoking pot when it wasn't legal, they were using other drugs. Yeah, like these days no one cares, but like growing up like I generally care about the drugs and that's not for me. I'm more so interested in the crimes that involve people getting hurt. So, that's kind of where my passion is. We're here today cuz someone got hurt while you guys were in the living room. So, I mean, I'm not going to [ __ ] you, but I need to know I mean, what's the story behind that? Like we know your car was there, we we know what happened, it's just it's the why that I'm trying to figure out. Like I don't think either of you are are bad people. I don't think I mean, the important thing is just tell me from start to finish, like you know what we're talking about. I mean, what happened? >> [snorts] >> I mean, it [clears throat] was literally we are I mean, the plan I mean, we had a really day where we actually talked about [ __ ] that needed to be talked about, but she was working. I mean, like baby, I I love you, but I don't know how to help with that. And I do that. I don't either cuz it's like everything else that I tried doesn't work at all. To the point where I am literally losing who I am every day. >> [clears throat] >> Like literally, the only thing that works and the only time she has ever seen it work is when I just try to scare the hell out of somebody. It's only time I feel humanity come back. >> So, did you know these people that you were trying to scare? >> No. It's always random people. It's never with tension or hurt them. >> Well, let me ask this. How did the bullets start flying? >> What could scare people more than hearing gunshots? >> [snorts] >> Were you aiming at anything? >> No, I literally aimed at the ground right below the car. I read the article. The fact that the one article I read actually said that he ended up going to the hospital from a possible GSW, but then the line next to it said it is unclear if he got hurt because of gunfire. Made me happy. >> And that's that's important to throw out there. I mean, you probably heard it, but >> I need to share. >> Yeah, I can tell that you know, that that eats you up and he's fine. That's that's good news. He's out and walking around. I actually talked to him the other day and if anything, I mean, he's confused as we are. >> Right. >> And that that's important for us to understand. >> I know. >> Did you know him at all? >> No, of course not. >> Did you see him earlier in the day or >> It's literally just driving around and trying to find one one. I don't want to traumatize people. >> Did this only happen the one time in Colorado? >> Yeah. >> And you've been honest this whole I mean, I have no reason to doubt that, but >> [snorts] >> I just want to hear it straight from you. And where were you sitting in the car when this happened? >> Passenger seat. >> And what which gun were you using? >> .243 >> Do you know where that gun is right now? >> Yeah, it's just still in the car. I also have a uh the uh FN 509 in there, but that's literally just like a souvenir. >> So, that part of Loveland I mean, again, I'm not trying to get too specific, but have you ever been there before? >> Mhm. I've never even heard of it. >> How did you guys end up? So that was kind of something that >> It was our way home. We just passed by a sign and it's like, dude, it's worth it to have fun here and be back. >> According to Aaron, the only way he can feel remotely human is if he scares people half to death, or in this case, nearly causes their death. But people will do anything but go to therapy. Aaron was deemed competent to stand trial, and as such, had a mental health evaluation, which hasn't been released to the public. But it quickly becomes clear that he wants police to believe that his mental health issues stemmed from an unbelievable incident in his childhood, one that began with one of his mother's several ex-boyfriends. >> We've talked to a lot of people throughout the course of you know, what happened. >> [snorts] >> We've talked to a lot of members of his family as well, and so they're she has a lot of love and support, but there's also a lot of concern I'm hearing from you, both from her and from her family. I mean, >> Why? >> It sounds like you talked about a traumatic event when you were when you were 13. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, so that got that got brought up. You know what I'm talking about? >> Yeah, that's one of them. I did. And my [snorts] mom has always had people coming in and out of her life, and I mean, we say my mom, but her parents adopted me cuz she after story will be very clear why she wasn't a mom. person, but I mean, she had super bad drug addiction, and she had me doing things and taking for when I was 13, but >> [snorts] >> it's like one of her boyfriends just I thought it was super cool. We would vibe really well. We were smoking a joint with him, and then what I thought was a joint, but it made me so dizzy that the entire world was spinning, so I know damn well now that it was not a joint. And I woke up in his basement and helped him some 13 times. I remember helping him with the body and throwing it in the river. And then waking up back at home and honestly I thought it was a nightmare. It still feels like a nightmare. >> Where Where was this? >> It was back home in Kentucky. I have no idea who she was. I I don't remember [ __ ] I remember the stuff that I don't want to remember. And then I finally told my mom before I moved out here and I mean she was like, "Yeah, I'm glad you didn't tell me. I wouldn't have believed you." at all. And then she looked up cuz I know his first name was Michael and I don't remember his last name, but he killed himself a couple months after that. >> So I Again, I mean, I'm getting that you don't want to cause harm to anyone, but just have to ask for the Have you hurt anyone else? >> No. No. >> [snorts] >> I tried everything I could to make sure it was tamed. To the point where, you know, you go on like be websites and you find people that want some real [ __ ] but it's all willing. >> Mhm. >> And I mean that [clears throat] worked for a while and it just it didn't help. Nothing helped. >> Was that scaring people? >> Yeah. It's as close as you can get to causing violence without actually being violent. If I'm sure you guys see the giant cracks on the inside of the windshield on that car. It's literally from me throwing my phone at it. >> I >> Try to punch it. Try to throw something that's not a brick on it. It's like impossible to break that thing. It awful. It's so bad and the only thing that works isn't even trying to hurt someone. It is literally just trying to scare them. Which makes me very different and I'm well aware of than any other batshit crazy person out there cuz most people want to do it because they want to cause pain and they want to torture. >> [snorts] >> The only way I can get my [ __ ] to calm down is if I scare the piss out of somebody and that is literally all I tried to do. >> And that that's huge. That's that's really important. We talked to people that I mean their goal is to hurt people, right? Like >> No. >> I'm not getting I mean even you just asked me about Ayla, I'm not getting that vibe from you. >> The confession that he had been involved in the murder of a woman sometime in 2009 in Louisville, Kentucky completely took detectives off guard. However, it's something that to this day police haven't been able to link to a missing person or Jane Doe. We were unable to find any missing persons cases in Kentucky matching the description of the woman that Aaron claims to have killed. However, if the woman was transient as Aaron later claimed, she could have been from anywhere in the US and may not have ever been reported missing. That is if his story is actually true. >> Are there any other times where you're shooting your gun not aiming at anyone or just >> I mean I shoot all the time. But not for >> For purposes of >> Not like that. >> [snorts] >> Like that is the first time I felt as human in years. I was scared shitless that I'd actually hurt that guy. >> I think that means a lot that that's you know the the first thought that I'm I'm hearing from you. >> [snorts] >> I mean we're here wondering if there was you know anything else if it was you know if there was other context to it. >> No. It's really not. It's I don't know what but I know she doesn't know either. >> [snorts] >> I mean, obviously you guys care about each other. And I mean, I'm sure, you know, it's the shoot the sh- the shooting was a couple days ago and we're we're here talking right now. So, we have we have plenty of resources. We we always do ballistic tests and stuff like that, DNA. What's her DNA going to be? You don't need to worry. It shouldn't be anything that needs to explain now. >> I don't think it should be. I mean, she would have touched it She would have touched the gun obviously cuz it's in the car. This She easily could have touched all the rounds of the entire box of knives. So, I mean, the her fingerprints could be on the gun. It could be on the barrel. It could be on the rounds, but she didn't do [ __ ] >> Did she handle the gun or touch the gun at all after the shooting? >> After, no. I don't think so, at least. >> Okay. >> But, I mean, she easily could have grabbed it at one point cuz it's like I'm not saying they're not on there cuz they could so easily be on there. >> Yeah, but you know, again, it's just >> [snorts] >> I want to make sure that we we're doing everything we can for her as well cuz at this point >> How much trouble is she actually in? >> She's almost the same the same amount as you. I mean, that's And that's what we're trying to we're trying to help >> How bad is it? I don't give a [ __ ] about me. I just need to make sure that she's okay. >> [snorts] >> So, at this point, you know, our job really, we we just gather the facts, right? Like what I was saying, no, I have no biases. Like that's that's the whole honesty. I just get all the facts. >> me a good estimate, though? >> So, the charge right now is attempted first-degree murder. And that is for both of you. But, whether that stands, whether that changes, that decision is actually honestly not up to me. That's the district attorney. They're above me. We just gather whatever information we can to send. >> Um Before you guys leave, is there any possibility that I can get a dip while you guys are still here? >> Can you ask? >> We will definitely ask, but it's Montana's house. Their their rules kind of apply. >> The man who Aaron struck was 47, had recently begun living on the streets, and was injured in his lower extremities after one of Aaron's bullets struck him. He woke up, confused, in pain, and unable to comprehend what had just happened to him. Fortunately, he survived and was released a few days later from the hospital. And though Aaron is keen to talk about the trauma he's experienced and how horrible it is, he seems completely unremorseful about the trauma he inflicted on this innocent man who was already down on his luck and was just trying to sleep. >> So, specifically the night when the shooting happened, tell me about what you guys were talking about when you were out looking for somebody to shoot. >> I >> [sighs] >> I couldn't have it be someone possibly get hurt that was actually, sounds awful, but contributing member to society. If they had kids or a wife or husband, I I couldn't risk them actually getting hurt. So, I had to find someone that no one would really care about. >> Just tell me about how you described that to her, about how you wanted to not shoot somebody that had a family or that was a contributing member to society, in your words. >> My logic was, I think, if there's a possibility I could have hurt someone, I need to find someone that is so hooked on [ __ ] that even if they got hurt, they wouldn't know. >> Is that what you guys talked about beforehand, then? Is to find somebody that would exactly how you described it. >> Yeah. >> The hooked on [ __ ] meaning maybe a drug addict. >> Yep. >> And I'm not putting words in your mouth. >> No, that's literally I'm just like that that that's it. That's the only target I will go for. >> So that's why this person when you saw this person on the on the ground there, what is it you saw in them that made you believe that they were >> It wasn't even him that I wanted to go after. It was the 100% tweaked out girl that was sitting two or three cars next to him, but I couldn't I wouldn't have been able to get like even a warning shot off without 14 different people seeing directly and that's not what I want. >> Okay. >> I honestly figured laying down I I don't even have to aim at him. It could be so close and just >> [snorts] >> So how did you come about spotting that person? >> It wasn't difficult. I mean we literally just drove to downtown. We saw Safeway and I'm like I know back home Walmart has the weird people. All right, it's great. We love Walmart. And [snorts] literally as we're leaving I see five homeless people sitting on the corner. >> So you passed and then came back. >> Yeah. >> Tell me about that. >> The pass is I would rather find one person than five. And not because I want to get away with [ __ ] and not because I want to make sure that they get hurt. I It's like we fired those shots and I see some dude across the street off his bike and his bag and sprint away. I don't want that many people that have to be affected by the one thing I feel like I have to do to feel normal. >> So you spot these people, you go down the street and you come back. >> Literally, we circled so many times cuz I'm trying to find just one good person that I can unfortunately traumatize. I couldn't. >> And would it I mean would it be fair to say that she didn't want to hurt anybody that would be a contributing member of society? >> No. >> I mean [clears throat] >> My goal wasn't to hurt people to begin with. But I mean it's like if I had had the right amount of when I was a kid, I wouldn't be here. So, why would I risk taking away something to someone that is important and actually a parent to them? I can't look at a normal person and not think what if they're super good or dead and what if that was me when I needed them? >> But tell me about the conversation you guys had about what gun would be used. >> There wasn't a conversation. I just It was the Glock. It was the exact same one. I keep it literally in the tank for when we go to places where we are the only tent surrounded by really sketchy campers cuz you got to love that as a trans dude when I'm like I got to go to the door and get my fake the piss out of. That's fun for everybody involved. It's It was that. I didn't want to use the more intimidating super scary FN which you pull that out and people are already like woah. This is the giant massive pistol with a gorgeous sight on it. I didn't want to use. An M-15 and I didn't want to shoot it. I wanted to do as little damage I >> So, when you guys made that turn and then came [clears throat] across those transients right there by that gas station. >> to drive through I think three times before I could convince myself to even fire off shots. >> So, you guys drove by there three times beforehand? >> We [snorts] drove around for God knows how long, circled safely God knows how many times, but we went down that little shitty side road at least three times before I could even convince myself to put the gun out of the car. >> Well, and one of the things we know is that you guys are getting familiarizing yourself with maybe hunting and stuff like that, outdoors, fishing. >> Hunting is such a different ballgame than any of this [ __ ] >> I agree, but would you say that some people might think of what you guys were going through, the struggles you're going through, as you were hunting for someone to shoot? >> Yeah, if we were actually looking for somebody to kill. >> Um tell me about after you shot. What did you guys talk about? >> [snorts] >> I don't remember what the hell we talked about. I just remember me thinking I have to make sure that she gets out of here. >> What did she say? >> [snorts] >> I don't remember. Our conversations weren't anything like, "Wow, I can't believe we just did that." It wasn't like, "That was cool." It was, "Okay, let's go home." And see how long it lasts before it's all back to what it was. >> Your idea, her idea, or together? >> Mine. >> 100% her, maybe 95/5? >> She can say it's her idea all she wants cuz I can almost guarantee you that she said it was her idea, it was not. It was mine and she said, "Okay." "You think it'll help? Let's do it." >> What Ayla told the police exactly, we don't know, because she was sentenced in the youth offender system meaning for first time criminals under the age of 25 her records have largely been sealed whether she snitched on her husband as easily as he snitched on his dealers is a mystery. But one thing is for certain Doodle Bob here and his bride definitely think they're the main characters especially when it comes to the incident that Aaron allegedly was exposed to in Louisville in his youth. >> Um Where in Kentucky were you living when you helped >> It's Louisville. >> What? >> Louisville. >> What city? Exactly that's Louisville. Is there a suburb or anything that's connected to that? >> I don't know where the hell I was. >> Do you remember the address you were living at at the time? >> I remember my mom's address. >> What's that? >> Uh All you have to do is ask her about Michael. >> Did you ever look in media see if this girl was there was a press release or anything about a girl missing? >> Nothing ever came up. I guarantee you she was a Guarantee you based on what she was wearing and what she looked like and the fact that there was absolutely no information. >> Black, white, or something else? >> Black. >> Black. About how old? >> Maybe [snorts] early 20s. >> Remember the tattoo she had? >> No. >> What? Tell me everything you can remember about her. >> [snorts] >> She had super short black hair. It was probably Well, like a pixie cut or a bob cut. Super short blonde. She had >> [clears throat] >> two super long hoop earrings and then she had one diamond stud that was definitely fake right above the right one. Uh she had blue press-on nails, ridiculously long. >> [snorts] >> I couldn't tell you what the hell she was wearing clothes-wise because she was when I was there. >> You said you threw helped throw her >> in the river. >> In the Ohio, yeah. I remember we uh put her in hefty trash bags. He weighed them down with a little bit of dirt. We duct-taped them and then threw them every single one of them into the Ohio. >> Do you know where abouts in the Ohio river? >> I know exactly where we dumped it, but I don't know the address. >> Is it by your mom's house? >> No, it's closer to my actual parents' house. >> Do you know their address? >> Yeah. >> [snorts] >> There are a ton of boat docks. If you go down Tri County and you hit River Road, there's probably like five or six different boat docks off of River Road. I remember the exact one we went to. It was the one that was super close to um the Louisville Boat Club. It's like right next to it. There's a private one and then there's a publicly owned one. >> So, you say you helped >> her. >> Am I misunderstanding you or tell me about how you helped her? >> I mean, he said you are going to this with me, otherwise you are going to die. So, I watched him. He said her right here. >> [snorts] >> And then he walked over to me while cuz I was literally waking up from God knows what and I was tied to a pole that he has in his basement. He said, "You are going to help me with this otherwise you are going to die first." >> [snorts] >> What did you use to >> It was some pocket knife he had. Blade was only about this long. It wasn't big. It had a green handle. And it was thicker at the top than it was on the bottom and it had a little piece of paracord. >> Whatever happened to that? >> knife >> I don't know. I'm assuming he put it in one of his bags but he could have kept it. >> And this took place >> at his mom's house. In the basement. No idea what the address is cuz I didn't even know that he owned a place. Then Beth he goes, "It's not his." It would have been his mom's. >> And this is Michael. >> Yeah. [snorts] >> And you don't know Michael's last name. >> I don't know Michael's last name but >> ask you this. Are Are you sorry for what happened in Loveland? >> You have no idea. I mean, I read that article. I read the title that said that he got hurt from a gunshot and I shut down. It's not what I wanted to have happened and it's not I'm not sorry that you guys are here. I'm sorry that that's what I literally had to do to feel like a human for the first time in a couple of years. >> Um I can tell you what you were trying to accomplish, to scare somebody. You You You did a good job. >> I know. >> Okay, I can tell you that you you you scared him. And you scared everybody and uh >> Yeah. >> What I'm What I'm wondering is cuz they don't know who you are. >> They don't know who >> They have no idea. >> Um let me ask you this. You don't have to do this but it might be a good gesture on yours because you really did freak him out. I can't obviously put him here, let you tell them you're sorry. Do you want to write him a letter? I mean, I can hand it to him and and I think this would make a look give him a lot of closure and let him know that he doesn't have somebody that's specifically targeting him, the individual, right? >> If you think that he would read it and know that I'm actually sorry and not sorry, then I'm in trouble, then yeah. >> I will promise you he'll read it. And I didn't catch the last part of that. >> If he knows that I'm actually writing it because I feel like a piece of [ __ ] and not because I'm in trouble, then yeah. >> I absolutely That That's what That's how this is going to be and I promise you he will read it. >> Yeah. >> I will personally um make sure he reads it. >> Absolutely. >> I'm going to step outside with my partner. I'm [snorts] going to work on getting When you say nicotine, what are you talking about? Cigarette? >> Um I have dip pouches that they actually took. >> Tell me not to get them. I can do that. I can tell you that. >> form of nicotine would be lovely. >> Like a cigarette, is what you're saying? >> Anything. I don't care. Just inject me with it. Like >> I'm going to inquire, right? I don't smoke, but I'll see what they got going on, okay? Would you do some No, you don't want water, right? >> Water would be great at this point. >> Okay. Before you do this, let me ask you something. Um Have we treated you with respect today? You're saying I want to make sure people there [clears throat] are having to know about this. It's Okay, it's important, okay? Have we threatened you, promised you, coerced you in any way, shape, or form in order for [snorts] you to talk to us today? >> No. >> Has everything today been the truth? >> Yeah. I know a lot more people are going to know about something that I don't want anybody to know about. And I want two people. >> [snorts] >> I'm not following you. >> I just ashamed of what happened with Michael for so long. >> Well, this is the first step to a new chapter in figuring this out and maybe bringing some closure for you. Um and for the family of that person that uh that was killed. I applaud you for that, okay? >> Aaron completed his letter to the 47-year-old stranger that he terrorized, and his confession ensured that jail time was on the horizon for him. At trial, he pleaded guilty to attempted first-degree murder with an enhancement due to the extreme indifference he displayed. As a result, he was sentenced to prison for 20 years. Ayla, on the other hand, pleaded guilty to attempted second-degree murder for her role in driving the car. As a result, she received a 4-year term in the youth offender system. If she doesn't successfully complete the 4-year program, she will be forced to serve 8 years in prison. 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