all right thanks a lot Jay a stun gun a drywall knife and zip ties that's what police say a Kentucky Woman used to murder a pregnant woman and kidnapp her unborn baby 33-year-old Kathy Koy is accused of murdering 21-year-old jimie stce wind says Koy angrily denied any wrongdoing but eventually LED police to sce's body which was found in a wooded area police say Koy used a stun gun on SCE and also bowed her arms with zip [Music] ties Kathy Coy's life had been filled with struggles and disappointments having been abused by various people and suffering from mental illness she had a difficult time maintaining even the relationships that were important to her a baby she believed would solve her problems she began to tell people she was pregnant bought baby items and posted a stolen sonogram on social media most of those close to her did not believe her but that wasn't enough to make her give up she asked her teenage children to help help her steal a baby and when they refused she claimed to be joking she wasn't Ki had befriended two pregnant women online inserting herself into their lives to get closer to them no one gave it much thought until she showed up at a friend's house with a freshly born infant which was still attached to the umbilical cord and the mother's organs koi tried to pass the baby off as her own but when she wasn't believed she came up with a story about buying the baby from another woman with growing alarm the police narrowed the source to two possibilities one woman was found safe at home and the other Jamie stce was missing after hours of questioning and a fruitless search the truth finally came to light Koy had lured SCE out by saying that they were going to shop for baby supplies instead she drove SCE to an isolated area stunned her slid her wrists and cut the baby from her body SCE did not survive her injuries but miraculously her son survived please I won't we make that's why I got defensive all right can we can we make a deal right now make a deal right here now listen to me make a deal wa to me you're not going to threaten my kids no more no no more come here make a deal listen to me but you can't be raising your voice either okay okay do do you let me just say this Kathy do you understand there's a lot of emotions going on here okay yes I do and now now Jamie fing missing and I'm being blamed just because she was pregnant she was that at that house with Mike he dries a black truck that always parked over to the side Mike who I don't know his last name he's jny jny uh look he didn't BL Court I know that let's start over Okay okay now let's start from the get-go cuz we're going to figure this out together all right okay all right we're going to figure this out together and we got to start from the very beginning when you woke up this morning what time did you wake up I don't know I remember Dominic coming in there around 7:30 or something asking me if I would take him schol just a second sorry wait we'll start over I didn't know I still had a phone on okay now I wasn't feeling good cuz I have been all day yesterday who picked you up at who woke you up at 7:30 Dominic my son Dominic woke you up 7:30 now COI has two children a son and a daughter neither teenager was aware of the extent of their mother's mental illness and what she was capable of doing me if I was going to take him to school now before where was your husband at that time gone where was your husband huh he was what time your husb I woke up at 4:30 and woke him up okay cuz you told me before which that's right he woke up 4:30 and woke him upoke him up woke husband up all right he got up he called light he did his business and any that okay so you woke him up 430 you went back to bed right yeah okay so 7:30 Dominic your boy how old your boy again 14 14 years old wakes you up and then what happened I told him that I wasn't feeling good because I had been puking and had and everything let me ask you that about that you puking and diarrhea right was that was that nerves yeah because I knew what I was doing right was wrong so you knew what you doing was wrong so what I'm getting at is you knew what you was doing was wrong so you got a conscience yeah I did you got a conscience don't you yeah because you know when I was talking about right from wrong earlier there's some people that just don't care and there are other people I do care you sitting the same Jamie now that's why I'm taking remember okay all right listen to me that's my point you do care that's why it's been tearing your stomach up right he it's been tearing your stomach up because you do care so you're know the person had a bug to though right but you're not the person that doesn't care this has been eating at you right no I do care okay so you're going to help me work through this right yeah okay okay y tell me that do you understand do you understand why yes I do okay but we're past that now right yes can I say one other thing though before let let's go about Ashley please Ashley Ashley I did buy baby okay okay now I did tell y'all earlier actually D know well not you I told Captain I was talking to Captain I actually know when my kids go to school she knows that I've been chopping for the baby she even tells me deails you mean she's been following you well she tells me like where I've been she knows my what school my kids go to and she tells me don't [ __ ] with her on that okay okay all right but I understand where you coming from but but well what I'm getting at is the baby Jamie the baby Jamie it's the baby Jamie it's baby Jamie okay is what I'm saying okay Jamie was left at the house with Mike and a young tall dude that was with him they what the young tall dude look like he called okay the horsey I get they call hores now they're like this and they go like that mhm there's two of them in the back of a black pickup truck ky's story doesn't make any sense and is easily disproven the murder was planned beforehand but Coy never considered what she would tell the police oh okay like they par go like this yes and there there the last build he parked all the way over here the horses were on this side of the house let's go back to this okay I want to start from very beginning to the very end 7:30 Dominic wakes you up then what after Dominic wakes you up made him take the dogs out and then I gave him a hug I told him you I always give him a hug and kiss when I leave and if ask them if they want to go to the doctor with me or not okay do they go to the doctor with you sometimes they never do because I'm not going to the doctor you're not going to the doctor right for months kyi faked a pregnancy even going so far as to steal a sonogram photo to show people so where's your other child what's your other kid's name Brianna Brianna is she up at 7:30 no she was still speak so how old woke me up I got up and I told him wake up and take the dogs out all right so how old Brian again 13 okay all right now so 7:30 you wake up did did your kids go to school no because I was feeling SII so your kids go to school or no and then of course I knew I was supposed to get the baby to Daddy so what did you do with your kids all day were they with you my kid yeah they want us to say at the house they oh so you left them at the house so what time did you leave because the neighbor you know keep so what time did you leave the house honestly don't know what time I left the house or anything I know that at 9:30 I looked at the clock with jine and jny I don't know I talk to her on Jamie's Facebook page that wasn't Jamie it's on my Facebook page that's her mama going through that because is also gen too okay okay let let me ask you this though I'm getting confused now listen to me what time do you think you left your house did you call anybody or talk to anybody before you left the house I wasn't paying no attention I just got dressed and I told the kids that you know I was coming B everything I didn't even bother to look or anything okay so you think what time did you where and what I stopped at the gas station that um what gas station uh it's in morg town it's a white one uh across from the other gas station down there by morgwn big old fight dud with a lot of tattoos filled me up B Sonic okay what time do you think you stopped there huh what time you think it was early that morning before I left out okay do you know detective Stevenson I going to talk very okay so you stopped there and what time did you get in Bone Green and where did you go when you first got into Bone Green I came into Bone Green I thought that Walmart Walmart I put in Walmart which Walmart that one over by house that the new one by whose house by Jenny's house Jenny's house yeah all right Jenny's house and that one's the one on Morgantown Road there okay so you stopped there about what time I don't know I just pulled it through the rock to see if she was waiting down the well you so you obviously talked to her on the phone she knew where to go right what you obviously you talked to her on the phone to know where to pick her up is that right yes did you pick her up at her house or at Walmart I picked her up at the house okay and her house you picked up we did go we got went through that one more what what time you think you picked her up again well when you went to the house she was showing me her eviction papers who was there when you went to the house well I went to the house it was Jimny and Mike was upstairs and Jamie was laying on the couch so when you got there it was Jenny Mike yeah and Jamie right they said Jamie was on the couch so about what time on couch about what time were you I droke coffee drunk coffee so what time you think this was I know cuz when we went upstairs and she was uh getting her disability papers and everything and I told Mike that he needed to get to get a damn job to help Jenny that um and I gave him $20 when we looked at the clock at 9:30 9:30 okay was Mike and Jenny are they boyfriend girlfriend mm okay he's in drug he's in drug court and being convicted of 18 DUIs okay so then you leave right yeah we left there all right now where did you go after that I went to T-Mobile and made the the yeah T-Mobile yeah I made the phone bill after T-Mobile where'd you go Speedway across the street from me Speedway over there where the Walmart okay we went to the old Walmart her car in the old Walmart whose car Jenny car is at Old Walmart huh what' you say now her car it broke down in Old Walmart is that why you were picking her up cuz her cars broke down yes okay so you go L Walmart and then where you go and we went straight to the disability office disability I dropped her off my Brad woman and a death guy named Walker was outside cuz I for Walker okay now the disability office you go there right you dropped her off right what time was it 10:30 10:53 somewhere today 10:30 to 10:50 all right and then where do you go from there I went out there to Plano Road no no from there I went back to the house could Jenny told me to go check on Mike to see if Mike had left go why couldn't she just call him because I I had given him $20 before we left cuz he was supposed to go to Frankl not Franklin scotsville to see and everything to to get a to get a damn dog and [ __ ] like this cuz Jenny had me jump on Mike a lot of time you know to make sure that Mike would get a job get out cuz he was sleeping on the in the bed all the damn time and not helping them and they were already facing him now does Mike have a phone I don't I don't have a phone yes what's Jenny's phone number I don't know it's in my phone why wouldn't Jenny just call Mike and see if he left why didn't Jenny just call Mike and see if he left the apartment all I know is from what I was told before was mik the phone but he had no minut on me so I mean I don't know so you go back to her what time did you get back over there to Jenny's I don't know I just went from the disability office to her house I mean it was no time 11:30 I mean cuz you said 10:30 to 10:50 you got to the disability office so what time did you get to Jenny's yeah it didn't take me no time to get over there and Mike and that dude were just walking into the apartment okay so you went back over there about a little after 10:45 1050 right what what time were you now what time again were you supposed to meet Ashley me were that's what I was saying I knew I was already late you're running late to pick up your baby the the new baby right right because I went back to the house to to see if Mike would um why were you not in a hurry to get out there she no matter what when they wouldn't believe that she had given birth Coy changed her story and told the police that she had bought a baby for $550 right now on my patreon page you can watch the interrogation of a suspect who killed a man and then tried to run over a police officer while trying to escape watch him burst into tears during his interrogation thinking it may help him get away with it watch this video and many more right now at patreon.com stranger stories plus she had to get rid no what so all right so you get back over Jenny's and who's there why why B paid for why today do what why today if you were running late that up for okay but if you were running late why weren't you in a hurry to be on time and you said she was paid for right I'm not sure she wouldn't like neither you know I don't know if she was she was there when I was there okay but I don't know if she that there or you know if she just gotten there when I got there okay that I've never told y you she was there before me oh I said she was sitting there when I got there I don't know how long she had been sitting there or anything I didn't ask all right listen all right so you get over back over to Jenny's right right and who's there Mike right and who else he a Big C young darkhead boy kind of dark complexed okay and I like and they went into the apartment okay I that outside in my car and asked him if Jamie was coming mhm that young boy loaded up a horse or one of them St you like that it's made out of wood mhm okay there was already one in the back of the truck he put another one in back at the black pickup truck that they d a construction horse huh a saw horse yeah I don't know I don't know what you call you were asking if Jamie was coming with them or was coming out or what if Jamie would then come out and and go where why why were you asking where Jamie was going because Jamie wasn't even way I left with her mama she was asleep on the couch so you asked the men if Jamie was coming out why why because I had her mama's Keys her mama gave me the keys left the keys in my car and I was supposed to give Jamie the key okay all right and then so what did they say when you say is Jamie coming up saying Jamie never even got up I gave the keys to Mike to give to Jamie they went back inside Jamie was at the house Mike was at the house and that other dude how do you know J she was did you ever go back inside the house when you came back the second time Mike and the dude that he was supposed to be leaving to go to scottfield that was loading up one of the mhm when inside the house did you ever go back did you I never went back inside the house and you never went did you ever see I was inside the house that morning but you never saw Jamie again no she was laying on the couch asleep when me and her mama left okay so after that then you go back to meet Ashley or what she had she she woke up she she got up on the C I wasn't hold I wasn't fed getting ta you did okay this morning morning yes I andu she was wake up but when I went back to the house she never she never came out at all okay and everything it was m i wonder with there into the house and I sat outside in my car waiting to figure out you know what in the hell is going on and everything because if Jenny's not there I I've never been inside the house until Jenny taking me in there um that young dude came out looked right at me and went around to the side of the house and pick up his cell phone and do something with his cell phone and grab one of these mhm put it in the truck mik came out I asked M Jamie coming out mhm I don't know I said well I got to go get some blood drawn Coy's story isn't true but she still inserts lies about her pregnancy you told you told them that yes told okay I left mhm they went back inside the house because I SC at M I said you better go and get that damn job and put that gas cuz I gave you $20 hold on one second okay hold on you're talking about you had to go to the hospital for a blood draw yeah what which hospital were you supposed to go to the medical center the medical center what time was that schedule what time was I supposed to be out mic right I tell I was telling them that I was going to like I was meeting Ash she saying she making that up for the blood draw which she's meeting Ashley okay okay so then you go and meet Ashley right I head it out to plan all over about approximately where we were on planing a road and Ashley pulls over she was already sitting there when I got this I know she just pulled over have thing me come up through that my car not hard hard to that'd be a hard place to sit for 30 to 45 minutes or an hour she was there when I pulled up in her grand dam in that white car in a white car 10 window it's got the the rim that s there in go but it's not this SP all right and that's the last time you had contact with her right this is the last time I'm supposed to meet her Friday okay now let me show you tell you what the problem we got okay Jam is gone that's what I y y buy me me for it listen Jamie's gone Jamie's pregnant Jamie we got who's Jamie who's Jamie's kid who do you know whose kid Jamie's kid is do you know they had some dude at the house one time that I ever met tell tell me what your Rel relationship with Jenny and Jamie is how do you know Jenny and Jamie I'm met Jenny and J Jamie they sent me a request because I was Rebecca John I grew up as Rebecca Johnson uh cousin how long have you known me few months did Jenny and Jamie know think you were preg I'm at I'm met I met Jenny did Jenny and Jamie think you were pregnant yes stce and Coy met on Facebook and stce believed Koy was an expectant mother KY used this to lure SCE out by offering to go shopping for baby supplies did you ever tell them different no I did not have you ever told anybody different that you weren't pregnant well if you're not aware of it who is who who have you told that you weren't pregnant you told somebody you weren't pregnant right I you couple people that told y' at the hospital assumption that I my Mis C being hit in the stomach with this time so did so uh Lindsay uh what's her name sh Lindsay Shel Lindsay know you weren't pregnant she knew I was to she knew you were pregnant but did she know you had a miscarriage she told y'all that she realized that I she thought I had a miscarriage because I was I had lost my baby b at the hospital me but did you ever tell her that no but she would call Channing for me have you I know and and played at the nurse right when you were going to the pretended to go to the doctor's office but you're really meeting as Ashley right all right I'm going to ask you I would think that you would have CAU on to something so you've known Jenny and Jamie for a few months right and they became your friend on Facebook right they were having a hard time they were getting they were getting evicted everything and her car was run down were you helping her out or what trying to yes did you ever talk about did you ever talk about with Jenny or Jamie you having a miscarriage Coy did not willingly tell anyone that she wasn't actually pregnant it was impossible to hide from the doctors and nurses at the clinic but Coy wasn't overly concerned with them since they would not be able to disclose that information to anyone else okay let me ask you this okay yeah that's gen all right that's same mhm and she was 30 something weeks pregnant she was she was at home mhm okay with in but iume I me she was she was she was safe and sound I okay okay listen to me sure but right now we're worried about her she's missing now I told did tell her mom that when I when I pulled in there was a red green twice was sitting out red green as sport looking car I'm not good with name naming cars okay and I asked she knew anybody because when I pulled in this morning Grand H I asked her mama if she knew anybody that Ro red looking train green g and because when I pulled in this morning beside my tuck and everything it fed out of there here's the problem we got I'm just telling you I that okay she was there at the live well and fine okay when you sprid her hair and you French braided Jenny you French braided Jenny's Hair or Jam's hair this morning I think budy Jenny okay now let me show let me tell you what the problem we got here okay me my friendship is not withh okay I understand Kathy I understand but listen let me tell you the problem and and we got things we got to answer to or questions we got to have answered right that what we got questions that we got to answer in this investigation and one big one now is who's the mother of your the baby that you got that okay let me talk first and then I'll let you talk okay the second question is where's Jamie her family's worried about her we're worried about her we're worried about her baby I like to know when that listen we're worried about her baby okay we're and that's why everybody's emotions running High cuz we're really worried where she is and where her baby is right right now and here's the other thing the other thing is she was approximately 35 or 36 weeks pregnant right okay well I have no clue how far on to it I didn't know she was but here's the problem we got cine the baby that you brought to the hospital is about the same age okay I was told it was 40 weeks it's about 35 36 weeks just like Jamie's baby okay I was told it was okay okay now listen here's the other we got okay so you saw her today and she's been missing since about 10:30 this morning okay her baby is missing her family is worried about her can you imagine I don't blame hey can yeah I can imagine can you imagine I'll be out I'll be out on the D and Che and everything and everything every but guess what that baby that you brought to the hospitals got a mom that's worrying now I know either that worse okay I'm could you imagine if those kids right there you didn't know where they were what happened to them I told this for upside down exactly exactly and that's what we're going to be me and Jen so much a light that's why I don't okay I understand but we got to find what happened to Jamie too and we got to find who that I would like to know okay CU she was at the house when I is that baby COI still insists that stce was safe when she left it may not have occurred to her that even if the body isn't recovered there will be ways to determine that the baby she had belonged to stce that you brought to the hospital going be James have no clue that's what I'm trying to tell you how do you have no clue how would this happen that you have no clue if it was Jamie's baby H what's it she was there my with Jim why can that dude with that you know assume she's still in that in in house and everything what what are we going to find in your car you ain't going to find nothing but the blood from that thing you have that box C you find a white dog hair from my dog chance what about in the trunk huh anything in the trunk in the trunk yeah you going to find the baby stuff and everything like what kind of baby stuff the costy a baby bag so You' already bought all that stuff right would you you buy that at huh where'd you buy that at when I buy the what where did you buy those things at the c i the C that was giving to me the diaper bag we bought at Walmart when back in December bought it think it with the fever who bought who me Shannon my H was Shannon real excited about you having a baby what did he have to say about what was he real excited about you having that baby put a lot of pressure on you didn't it yeah put a lot of pressure you've been depressed too M and then you had the miscarriage how long how long has this been weighing on you you didn't want to lose him what did you do about anything to keep him and your family together coin's husband never believed she was pregnant and he was already finished with a relationship you told me that earlier at the hospital you wanted to keep your family together that's what that's what meant the most to you my kid and you told me that earlier at the hospital I do remember that that's whenever I was in the room talking with you that that's why you pissed me off when you my kid I understand but but that's the one way listen it's not that but here here here's the kicker okay now listen to me all right they were they daddy anyway you got you got to think about your kids but you got to think about that little baby's mama too I am I'm worried about her right as well okay okay but what I'm saying is that baby's mom is out there and doesn't have her child if she's still if she's still alive and and and you don't think that I haven't done anything okay but listen to me but somebody has right you didn't get that baby from nobody I got the baby from actually okay but what I'm saying is I beg you please give me a polygraph T no want to we can't do it now we do that tonight we can set that up and we will okay but tonight we can't what's the polygraph going to show us what's it going to show us when I ask if that bab if when we ask you is that baby Jamie what's the polygraph going to show what are you going to say I'm going say I don't know anything so I'm being truthful I don't know I don't know you're shaking your head yes so you think there's a possibility that baby's Jamies I don't think so but I have I have I I have told y'all I do know that I have somebody watching my kids that I have Ashley but she was alive and kicking very well when I left that house did you talk to her today she was sitting up on the couch when um I was goinging Jenny to did you talk to her oh excuse me I just said hi know on M excuse me got on the Facebook P to show M just how tall my husband was how much time did you spend talking with her talking to her yeah I don't even think maybe five seven minutes just long enough M do you ever call Jamie on the phone I called Jamie's phone talk to her no talk to Jamie I talk to Jimny Jenny's the one that gets on Jamie's Facebook page some Ed which is supposed to be her uh son MH and she sent me inites on that because I never know which one who I'm talking to when I'm on there but I'll be like no well I'm going to take your mama to the disability office and she like well this is Mama how long she supposed to be geny of all the time since you've known them has there ever been a time where you would take both of them someplace or you is there ever a time whenever you would take both of them someplace where they both would be with you or would you would take Jamie some both take them they were both in the car where was I taking Jenny I Jenny was who who I was taking what did we take we took her to First Personnel cuz she wanted to try to find a job this Jenny or Jamie jeny Jenny will he we went he k and Jamie was W but all the other time the only one I've had in my car J okay but you got on Facebook and talked to Jamie quite a bit right I talk to her mama through Facebook on her account Jamie's account or Jenny's account no Jenny don't do it through her account to talk to me she goes on Jamie Jam's account right what have you said said on Facebook lately on Jamie's account what have y'all been talking about just about her addiction and if I will come in and run her to go looking at a house um if I would go to court if I would talk to um her Lord and see if you give her some more time and everything and if if I had if I had any kind of money that loan her how much money did you loan do what how much money did you loan I gave Mike $20 no I over the past couple months how much have you loaned her I haven't given anything nothing stce and her mother never asked to borrow money from Coy how much have you given her in the past I given uh I've given Mike G money and you're not really friends with Mike no but Jim asked me because that's the only way that they could get around that with my vehicle okay so how much you how much money have you given Jenny get none you all went to MK for gas was supposed to be going in his truck for the time that I cannot take her some damn place he can was um how much did you give him I gave him $20 today okay I giv him $10 besid that g him $5 here giving him another $10 so you gave him 20 now how much were you supposed to pay Ashley today is that when you gave her the money no when did you give Ashley the money gave gave her thday FR how much you give her again I gave her 300 I have two $272 on me right now to give her 200 for why didn't you give her the rest of the money today then when you got the baby why yeah didn't you give her the rest of the money you ow her when you got the baby today no I didn't why why didn't you because just it was one of these moment I didn't want to be in the present I just wanted to get the baby and go and everything and the meeting had already been set for me to pay her on Friday and Friday Coy is becoming frustrated trying to keep up with her lies the story is unbelievable enough without Koy trying to convince them that the woman allowed her to take the baby without making the full payment where do you think you this supposed to be like what the 15th and that's when I was supposed to me her you think she's going to show up huh you think she'll show up she knows y' been at the damn hospital I don't know how would she know that she knows where my kids go to school I nobody know that I don't post that on my Facebook she's not even on my Facebook where your kids go to school Butler County Middle School yeah but if you live in Butler County that's not hard to figure out right do right if you live in Butler County that's not hard to figure out if they go to Butler County Middle School right but she knows that I've G to the mission to buy baby clothes she knows exactly when we went we bought I went to a yard and bought another baby b baby bag that's not in at the house a little brown thing she knows that I kept Tyler with me which is a little MIT boy that's a FR of my daughters and my son let let me ask you this and she tells me she tells me stay don't [ __ ] with her okay let me ask you this what do you think should happen to somebody that took this baby and sold it if the baby was given to her for that then I don't know the baby wasn't given to her for that what do you think should happen to somebody that took his baby out of somebody's belly to sell it what should happen to him bet she get time I know I know you guess she should get time or should she get counseling or probation probation or or it depend on on her State of Mind from her me me I'm going be I'm going tell you supp buying the baby okay I did out of I know I'm going to go to jail but honestly okay you did it out love first of all I think I need to be treated for my depression I agree I need to get past past my dependency to I those good of losing can yeah sure that's and that's what and that's what we're talking about here but what if I'm talking about the person that took the baby from the mama what should happen to her if it goes down the way said it should go down she needs celing caning psychiatric help you do something like that yeah I agree with you sure yeah and those are all possibilities absolutely and and I agree with you because it's somebody that's got a lot of emotional problems doesn't it yeah down F me do what up front arest upfront Hest you think I did it honey we're trying to get to the bottom of that do you think somebody hey let me ask you this do you think somebody that did that took that baby from another mother we deserve second deserve a second chance want my honest opinion yeah honest opinion I believe everybody second right and I understand where you're coming from because because things happen in life my wa baby look that your signs of what a rape baby oh rape baby rape baby you've had a rough life hav you yeah I've been for to care I'm speak for something for this kind of crime okay I I know how the analysis is okay so I've been I was here we go you want some in my life I was molested by my adopted father who was actually my uncle okay okay my my mom that adopted me is dying in Georgia by now m i got this thing for the first time in over 20 years I sh okay my family in Georgia all treat me like a [ __ ] black sheep okay they all hate chaning so they isolate me on that okay me and my real mother can't stand each other because every one of my family wants nothing to do with me but want to try to take my kid you know and everything you my kid get fo you've had a rough life that money [ __ ] and then you've had Coy goes off on a rant about the hardships she has endured in her life either as a distraction or some type of justification she knows she is the prime suspect so she may be trying to gain sympathy a couple miscarriages one miscarriage you had because somebody punched you in the stomach is that right me me and Christine got into a okay we were out that Shannon's Mama's house on a around here okay um Tron and Clint bite like cat and dogs okay I'm talking about fat wood Hammer the Daddy had to take everything away from him but they can fight with this with anything else okay we were going to his MTI Clinton was on the four wheeel and I a move for some [ __ ] I made him go up on the HP but he decided to turn around and chase after FL it and now I just hit the bak and I made the thing go up there well we finished going on to Diane's house to try to you know try to tell Diane problem and CH got out of the car and start figh with Clint come over there my kid in the back SE of the car was hit my window come on get out of the car [ __ ] get out of the car get out of the car so you got yeah I told her let me tell you don't [ __ ] with me I want getting out anyway and Meo started battling and everything and Diane smacked me and when she she smacked me she's trying to pull me back and everything I got hit in my stomach and had a miscarriage yes and CH would never let me call the law but we p d for that right and then you finally get pregnant again Shan's real excited about that baby right do what you get pregnant again and Shannon is excited about the having the baby wasn't he and then you had another miscarriage because you took the what was the drug you took huh what was it you took Depot shot Depot shot the depot shot my my daughter was on it okay now now I guess my point is I understand You' had a rough life we did we understand oh oh I haven't finished though I come to Kentucky to meet my real mom cuz me and my I got my Dr mom gave me back to her her brother which is my biological father to post to be mhm okay I couldn't stand here can't stand my stepmom my step Filipino and thing so he let me come to Kentucky with my real mom she beat my little sister bad and everything and I wind up hitting her in the head with C SK just to make her let go my sister she was dling my sister at that time the court said that I didn't need to interfere so I might go to fost care how old were you then 14 15 something like that um I went in fost from there I went into a group home I graduated from the group home a couple weeks child my 18th birthday um came back to B with my little mom wind up getting an apartment over there at BO Hall know what I'm talking about yeah I know I was the only female on that one side where I met my who was your rapist Joe Joe who Joe he goich now he he got busted for heitt to know everything on that um from there you know I what year was that 199 [Music] was7 so I guess what we're saying is we understand you you've had a rough life we understand that you got reason to be depressed you got reason I've been in and out of boale so we understand we understand that right and that's part of what's going on here right probably okay but we're here and we got to get to the bottom of it and you still we think you're basically you're a good person you've made the mistake right made a mistake I made mistake but now we got to make that mistake right I we got to make that mistake right she she she's missing I understand that mhm please understand where I'm coming from she would when I left with her mama but's listen to me for a second okay tell me about her tell about her tell me about her I don't I don't no no know her okay just from where I've been there and everything she's always really like feeling sick she she's bad and as she's not socializing with me very much was she excited about having that baby huh was she excited about having that baby no clue I know they supposed to have a baby child um her M was really exited okay her M was really exited she was talking about um on the way to the disability office today of making a baby shower cake and okay and and let's go let's go think about that for a second her mom is wor to death now can you imagine she's wored sick right I mean but but I mean listen to me okay her mom's scared to death she's worried the detective is trying to appeal to Coy's emotions but she is not in a mental state that allows her to feel sympathy truly all right think but I did T her I T her when I dropped her off she wanted me to come back and pick her up okay from the disability office I Tex jine and let her know that Jamie was at the house and had her keys okay you you didn't you didn't pick Jenny back up right how'd Jenny get home she took a cap I gave her F dog and say cuz I didn't think I was going to be able to make that how can I make it back with a baby in the car but do you understand can you imagine I mean how scared she is for her daughter and her baby that she was so excited about having yes I can her grandbaby yes and we got to figure out what happened okay what else in the last couple of months can you tell me about her you you were screaming at me as I choke like something with me and that's why I kept telling you when I left she was in that apartment she was live what else can you tell me about her in the last two months about what what else can you tell me about her she she she she beautiful she got beautiful pictures on Facebook and everything she had a beautiful baby too wouldn't you probably you know I don't I don't know much about it you know I know well she going to have a boy or girl I know Jen Jen said something that she wasn't she didn't have a boyfriend it's just a baby daddy oh okay which call her but wasn't invol like or anything let me ask you this on that note too I mean was that was that girl going to be able to give that baby the kind of life that baby deserved was it was she going to have a boy or a girl I have no clue on that you have no clue she was going to have a boy or a girl yeah a boy she was going to have a boy yeah she was it's on her Facebook page she was name of Isaiah Isaiah here's a question where's Isaiah huh here's the big question where's Isaiah I don't know now she she had at one point in time she her and her mama had me drop her off at a g house over there on Stone Hing M cuz Mike was sitting over there with jine in a um black pickup church we were supposed to have gone and picked up black pickup truck a black pickup truck that they you know they M Truck okay and everything it always F at the thing um Jamie and me uh i d uh Jimmy off fresh personn okay and me me and Jamie went back to the house where Mike was there everything and um Jamie had the phone and told me that mama wants to go back and get when was this a week two weeks ago and everything say okay and what you and Jamie talk about when you all were in the car together that what what did you and Jamie talk about in the car when you were with Jamie just that they were getting um an eviction you didn't talk about her baby and you and your baby we never really talk about now you're both now she thinks you're pregnant right right and you know she's pregnant she thought J Jenny but you know she's pregnant right okay and you're not talking about the pregnancies any no we're talking about they're getting evicted okay they they're getting evicted from their home it's AA the time within like six month time okay first one was back in January and now they're going through this now and you want to know if I knew like any kind of organization anything that could help them you know and everything say that I told I would look into it everything I told her your mama needs to get a job mik need to get a job okay let's ever where would you where would you look for her maybe what what where would you look for her where would I look for if you were looking for yeah St H department or at her own house I mean I don't I don't I don't know where she goes you know let's go back to this I really we got to figure out what do you think I mean cuz you got this baby but this baby was cut out of somebody's belly basically okay yeah whoever did that what do you think ought to happened to him what should we do about that what should we do what would you say would well that's what I was saying the person to do needs counseling absolutely needs canceling wouldn't you you agree need how much Cel probably psychiatric you think psychiatric yeah how much huh how much time how much counseling let give you scale 1 to 10 one being the lower 10 being the greater I I don't think I'm fck Mone years don't work so would be 10 be the greatest number I mean would it be I mean would they need to go to the psychiatric War for months years what somebody cut the baby out of somebody else they they definitely you know need to go take I I definitely put him in there for 5 years 5 years yeah I yeah okay if Ki thinks she will get away with only serving 5 years she is in for an unpleasant shock 5 years I'll tell you what hang tight now you in the bathroom yes yes hang tight just just one second do you want that back huh no no just leave it there I need I got go pee I pee I get somebody take it give me a sec what we're all real concerned about and you know we've been concerned about it for a while is who this baby's mom is and and where I am okay and I'm very concerned she's missing yeah and you know what I believe you I don't think you know exactly what she is I don't know what Jamie is and it does bother me that Jamie's missing because she was alive when I left with her mama I didn't see her after that my can I do with that and I assume she was still sitting on the couch okay I know what she was wi when I was there what are we going to find on your cell phone as far as text messages that you've sent just going back and forth nothing like that going back and forth with who with her with cherry um my husband and then the people that were just congratulating me when I told the baby was let me ask you a couple questions okay okay you gave me your password to your Facebook page so I got on it and I looked at it and the that 3D ultrasound picture what a cute little boy you've had that for an awfully long time since way before just a few weeks ago I did to them of last year let me finish okay I got this thank you okay here's the RO uhhuh here's the side of road all kinds of trees right through here okay show me where the store is is the store right here close to yes or past it the the store like back this way okay that's all right and say and you're going I'm going this way yes ma'am her car was parked going this way on my side on the W okay I pulled up meeting her like that you're bumper like nose to nose not bumper bumper right facing each other you see her in the window okay my passenger door was facing this road right here all right and I got out she got out she passed over the baby I told her I said do I not get him on the blanket KY adds more and more details to her madeup story to make it sound authentic but she refuses to admit to herself that the police have known from the start that she was guilty and she told me I could not take the blanket that was all that she told me no I know what would happen if I [ __ ] up that was it I got in my car I made a youth come in the road mhm and say I know another illegal thing I hell I made you turn in the road and come back down the PLO Road okay I came back down there I turned at the light went down scvi Road okay okay went all the way to Lovers Lane mhm made right on Lover Lane went past life skills and all that I turned on to save Avenue Road thing went down that way cut down the B pass went over those railroad tracks that's over there by Beach B ma' cut through that detour and got on to 185 all right when you pulled out of here you were in the grass do you remember it's it's rained a lot do you remember spinning did you spent I'm trying so we can find exactly where you were at I don't recall spending ties doing anything like that I mean I drove off pretty pretty easy I mean I didn't fide or anything on that you pretty sure you can take us right to where you R you think you remember it that what you think you'll remember where uh where you were if yeah I told them on that picture you know they there's not a whole lot of like Woody tree area okay it pass pass the store and everything you got all these trees there's a whole lot of trees right here uhhuh I know you got I grew up out that way I know exactly what about the only thing I call it Woody area CU a whole lot trees did you still see the store from where you were at or do you remember when you made cuz I was facing I'm facing this way okay right but when you made the U-turn how quickly how quickly was it before you you could see the store again once you started driving back down plan Old Road how soon did you see the store was it like oh honestly honey I can't help you on that because I was looking down the Flor board fing C okay I mean I I I don't really too much for car from the time I turned around to how to out of all honesty excuse my language I I don't even remember remember D just got oh I did I remember looking at C mhm that my baby I just want to hold my baby but I had to get him somewhere okay did you you you didn't stop anywhere until you got to Shell's house no I didn't stop anyway okay how long did that trans transaction between you and Ashley take how long were you all there it was a splitting splitting second basically I mean it was just know if I come to you I pass more okay now I actually had the blanket okay and everything and she told me that you know you're not taking the blanket right so I just took Caden and where I presume to be the proa was at the time that she also had taken some of sce's organs as well which was one of the major red flags that told the police that stce was unlikely to be found alive wom me but I don't honestly I did think something was wrong because that placenta was pretty damn big and she told me it was supposed to be small enough for me to fit back up inside me to play it off as a okay and she had told you that when huh she had told you that that the placa would be small enough I heard you say that she told you that when before today or before yeah she she's been telling me that when that they knew how that when the baby was born in order to take the plac and stuff out to where it would be attached to D where I could put it up in me to pass the baby off as my own okay well are you ready to go with us and and show us help us that yeah there's absolutely no way this would have worked although Koy was sitting on the placenta in her car when she arrived at her friend's house that's fine tell you what let's get your picture there uh that's just that's little note I do you want to are you want to leave these here or take these take the pictures with you right I want take you want to leave this with us yes or you she took my yellow note okay we we're going to get to do you want to take this with you this no y'all can have y can have it it's for my kids you want us to give this one to them too if you want to I it's a confession you're probably going to keep it it just there it says that I knew I lost Caden I bought the baby it say that I met with Ashley okay it's okay we listen I met with Ashley when I playing on going to the doctor see to the doctor I didn't okay well let's go let's go let's uh get you drink do you need to use restroom or anything before we go probably I need to go ahead and try Okay uh let's I need to see I need to tell y'all this this is the money that I'm supposed to pay on Friday the $272 in here that's what I'm supposed to give her okay well you just hang on to that right now okay and uh put that back in your purse but if I'm not pay I can't I don't have to I'm not going to okay well put that put that back in there I need to see that my husband gets it if I'm going to ja I'm going need something okay well put that back in there grab your stuff put your pictures up and and let's go I can keep do I take this really me or not or leave it here take that I mean there's nothing in it can go through it whatever get out here close to the bathroom you can sit it on the ice box okay I just want go home my kid right listen to me right now we need you to help us we need we need you to help us you you you can help yourself the most and by doing the right thing this time for the right reason do you understand D in my car okay the back of my car ex clothes only for when I go to the hospital we have your car right we got all that the only the only blood you find car from the thing that's bleeding okay you might find a couple of DRS for me I was explaining to Y Captain herad said Captain I don't know her name know you might find a couple blood dret from me in my seat because when I was parked at the barbecue joint I did try to stretch myself to make it look like I get okay but other than that I mean you can tell about call apart you're not going to find um I did take a t knif and try to cut myself with it but the only blood that's going to be on that is I me you took a what and tried to cut yourself a utility knife a utility knife yeah is that still in the car too should be okay I didn't do nothing with it so where were you trying to cut yourself at you make bleeding to okay okay so okay didn't work I didn't do too much do me a favor get your drink and and let's go and do this that's why I'm I'm trying to let you know everything you know I want to be able I want to be able to go home I know I'm going to go to jail for buying the baby okay that's why I keep it saying to y i right now we've got bigger things to take care of than we need your help with other than worrying about you going to jail right now okay we need you we need you to help us find the mother hope whatever lead you can give us by starting with where this transaction took place okay hopefully will lead us to the mother of this child all right okay that's what we want I'm help y'all got anything what my way though right now is the two kids at that home I know I can't get they're fine your your two children they're fine yes he's there they're fine okay your family's there they're fine I promise you my well but listen only him and those two kids my family then then those three people are five no limited right now he knows all of it now no I said limited limit a limited amount right now okay Coy's family hasn't been given all of the details but they will have to be told eventually because really right now this is us this is between us the investigators and you all right you know what hold on I might have my pictures mixed up okay what pictures the the you think that the one that you gave the detective is possibly the one that she gave you is that what you're say I need check my Facebook and see when I posted that 3D 3D thing cuz it would be on there when I posted it you posted it shortly after she gave it to you you posted it pretty soon after she gave it yeah I never even posted one okay well we'll get to all that in a little bit okay first let's go I'm I don't want y to think I'm I'm I'm I'm all confused to I'm trying to figure out calm down it's okay we'll get through this all right well I'm just trying to help I everything you're saying you're tell my mind's going a million what I need you to do now is come with us come with us you're willing to come with us yes yes okay great tell me what can I do for you okay I want to do this so that y'all can see that I have nothing to hide I don't know if y'all can do it or not but I'm asking you okay what is it can you settle a r detector test a polygraph yeah yeah uh if we need to we can if you're willing to if you need to I'm asking yall can y'all do that for me if you want to take one I mean we can do that if you know but we that way y'all can ask a question if I know more or anything that way I can answer it and you don't have to just take my work that can tell you whether I'm lying or not fair enough many people believe that they would be able to trick a polygraph test which explains Coy's eagerness to take one okay okay well y just at least we can't do it right now no no but would you at least just that that up for me that way then see I don't know how much y are believeing you get what I'm saying you I want to believe everything you're telling me but right now but I know that once you have that vertification I'll put it this way if at some point I don't believe you will you tell me I will tell you straight to your face fair enough yes okay and you won't take offense to it so I I defitely am on my Facebook page I'm blunt I'm honest now I lied to my face but I Did for Love okay understand that but listen to me I'm sorry but all my friend will tell you I'm blunt I'm up front I'm Hest for lying about this pregnancy well right now you're I believe what you're telling me and and right now we need to go out here to this place I'm not lying to youm okay me I li to I try to come me with my baby it is my baby I paid for it I know it's against the law okay that's why I was sticking to okay and then when when they start accusing me of murder that that thing was cut out oh hell no that's why I'm going you know okay let it all come out and everything else like that I'm not going down for they think the baby the thing cut from the baby all right let's go here you go I know what I'm guilty of and I'm ready to that that way who's taking you we're going with myself and another TR can believe you missing and I'm in the middle of this play for talk to come on you got to talk to you got to call your mom you've got to do something totally totally getting blamed for everything KY has been left alone and proceeds to have a conversation with herself you were alive and you were kicking you need better call your mom she ain't taking no fall for nothing you better call you better call somebody a good damn world you're okay oh you they believe I've H you I'm not capable hurting anything bu you got call your mom you might help me out here I can't go down for this jine call call you m please C I'll be back in just a second okay I want to kid I've got to go home too two babies you pick today of all days to disappear you you better call your mom oh just fine when I left with your mama for cannot believe this I'll be home tonight but I'll be there I promise I love you all I love you a lot J please call your mom so I can go home please no good well I didn't I haven't done anything but buy a baby please I love C anyway today [ __ ] it tell let me tell you something okay talking talking to Jamie yeah I know you're talking to Jamie yeah anyone please call Mom and get me out of this [ __ ] [ __ ] okay listen to me I know you're talking J and I'm going to tell you something there's been some new things that come up and I'm going to tell you something okay okay the evidence clearly shows that that's Jamie's baby and also the evidence clearly shows that you're the one that took that baby from Jamie okay I didn't take that baby now listen now listen to me you listen to me for a second okay we're going to work this listen just listen to me for a second okay I'm not yelling at you you don't yell at me okay let's fill this out for you we also know that Jamie was in the car with you today and you picked Jamie up at her house listen we got eyewitnesses that saw Jamie get in the car with you who Mike in that voicey listen it wasn't just Mike Jenny knows you were scheduled to pick Jamie up and go back to morgant toown with her today no l listen to me we already know that we've already confirmed that we confirmed that and we're going to confirm that that's Jamie's baby through DNA okay now here's the kicker of it now listen listen to me honey I can't help you please listen to me I don't want you talking listen to me okay we got eyewitnesses and it's not just Mike okay you picked him up you picked Jamie up I'm Potter you were scheduled we've already talked to Jenny and everybody you were scheduled to go back Jamie was supposed to go back with you to Morgan time okay we hav been talking about yet Jamie L listen she left with you we know she did we know she left with you okay now here's what we got to do you let me talk okay here's what we got to do now we got to sort through this together okay we got to sort through this together I know you've had a hard life I don't think you're a bad person I think you were a desperate person okay and the main thing we got to do now is we need closure for this family okay and we know whose baby it is we know we got our Witnesses it's not just Mike it's not just J Jenny okay and we know you were supposed to you never said anything about picking Jamie or supposed to pick Jamie don't listen to listen but you never told us that you you never told us that okay you never the need to have to tell you that because that's real important because she is missing out and then people saw her get in the car with you honey and nobody's seen nobody's seen her since and here's the other K she listen and there's going to be her blood in there and that's going to be her baby okay we and I'm telling you this right now the other thing is that baby's Airways were cleared cleared up there on rville road that baby could have made it alive from Plano Road to rville Road up there in Butler County it could have made it alive it was just born we know that it was just born on the way up there okay somewhere around that area we know that honey that's right and we're here here to help you and we're here to work with you but we got to get the truth out because you are a good person you've made a mistake but we can work through this and we can get the help that you need okay but the bottom line is this are you going to be that person that keeps the nine to nine to nine or you going to be that person that I think you are you've had a hard life you've got a history you you're depressed you've had probably postpartum depression You' had a miscarriage your h husband was worried I was excited about having this baby and everything else okay and the bottom line is this we can place Jamie in the car with you we can do that now and you know whose baby that's going to be okay so tell me the truth about the Jamie you know Jamie was in the car with you because we got no I'm taking my head you're shaking we're because we're right I'm Shing my head because that listen to me let's work through this together but you got to start being honest with us and we know the truth and the truth is coming out she was she was but she's you keep saying she was you know why because she's don't talk let me talk can you listen to me now I've listened to you right now it's my turn your turn to listen to me she was alive and kiding but she's not anymore she's not anymore honey no no listen you don't know that no I don't know where is she at then if she's maybe still alive where is I don't listen where Jamie tell us Jamie tell us where she's at I don't know what Jamie at okay where was she when you dropped her off last where did you leave her honey where did you leave her please work with me I didn't leave leave her she was in your car came she never came back when she left with you her she never came did not leave with me she did we've got witnesses that put her there and it's not just Mike and Jenny we've got other Witnesses she lives doesn't matter yes I know okay you were supposed to pick her up where were you going to go with her today where were you going to go with her she was supposed to go to the morg to Mission and pick up exactly now here's the deal came home and she never came home with you and here's the other kicker why would you schedule to go to the morningtown mission with her when you knew you were supposed to get a baby on plain old Road that's you wouldn't schedule two things at once sweetheart you would it wouldn't happen and the baby had been born before then listen no listen no be quiet for a second listen to me please baby would have never made the baby from plan Road it still had the Airways blocked they had to clear the Airways okay that means that baby was just born recently recently sweetheart and you know I got the baby from as you know it and I Know It Jamie was in your car you didn't have in plan off Jamie was in your car today J jamy was in your car today jamy has been in my car she was not in my car she was in your car today today we got eyewitnesses that place you there honey and you know it's going to come back Jamie's baby and we're going to be able to prove that too that's my point honey that's my point let us help you get you the help that you need we know what all you've been through in your life we understand we don't think you're a bad person I'm not trying to judge you I'm trying to get closure for Jamie Jenny where for the baby where did you leave Jamie today after she picked you up after you picked her up where did you leave Jamie today just tell us where just tell us where did you leave Jamie today sweetheart where was it where was it at where was it at was it in between was it in between Bowling Green and morgant town was it in between Bowling Green and Butler County wasn't it no where was where was it at then tell me where it was at re Road Rey Road huh Road what's that what's the road where youville Road or outville where did you leave Jamie Jamie got in the car with Ashley Jamie Jamie got in the car with Ashley yes where did Jamie get in the car with Ashley Ashley supposed to take her back to the house Ashley was supposed to take her back to the house now hold up here where was this at where was this I told told Jamie Ashley would so did Ashley take that baby from Jamie Okay so so now let's let's think here I'm telling you truth when I don't know if that baby why would why would Jamie get in the car with Ashley because I told Jamie thaty was a friend of mine that to take to take to take Jamie home and everything cuz I want to get so did you plan this with Ashley where yeah where at did you plan this with Ashley where did you plan this with Ashley no I did not for once Coy is telling the truth she was the only one who planned and carried out the murder but the where where was Jamie where did Jamie Jamie was with me when okay actually he didn't have the baby the first time I met her and I did meet her twice today Ashley who who's Ashley's last name cuz you know Ashley better than you're saying I don't know what okay but here's the deal the problem we got here is the eyewitnesses put Jam in your car that's right now now here's the deal is Ashley really you talking about yourself yes I up okay you picked her up and then where did you go I just want go home to my kids where did you go listen to me where did you pick Jamie up my kid for my husand where did you I will I picked Jamie up from the damart me he come out and then where' you go we know that now where'd you go we went down toward uh what was that uh uh Lou Road Louis Road okay and then what happened honey talk to me what happened you got mad at her I metad at with Ashley Jamie want to know who she was and then where'd you go and I just told her that she was a really good friend actually play it off and everything like there and stuff and I told uh Jenine uh J Jenny that um I was having contraction and everything but that I was going to the hospital I was already at the lab and saying actually told me that she would take her home cuz the we played it off in front of Jamie I told her that I was I would going to go back to the house and everything go to the lab I was going to go back to the house and everything and she was because I said I was back and everything and I told her said well actually will take you home cuz I'm going straight to the so where did you meet Ashley at on Lou Road huh where did you meet Ashley at on Louisville road is that what you're saying no where I headed back towards uh Plano Road that way honey no listen listen listen please okay I didn't be actually on play Old Road that's why she had the baby how did she have the baby tell me how she had the baby were you there when she had a little bit L over there how'd she have the baby she wasn't in labor how'd she have the baby I don't know CU Jamie was with her right I didn't plan anything let me that's why I also say that I don't know if it's J baby or not let me tell you something you planned to pick Jamie up you planned to take Jamie's baby I did not plann to take Jamie yes you did now you got to tell me why was Ashley there yeah why is Ashley there why did you meet Ashley why did you pretend to have contractions why did you I was supposed to be having no you didn't tell us the truth about even picking Jamie up sweetheart and now you're meting that you did pick Jamie up so now we got you again in another story I you going to have to tell us the whole truth you're going to have to tell us the whole truth because I paid for a damn baby okay right but now where is Jamie is she dead huh I don't know where did you drop Jamie off where was the last time you saw Jamie on over Road where at the gas station what gas station that's before you get the bus you know those gas stations have security hams what time I don't know what time we we'll call we'll call them right now and we'll pull the security takes and that's going to tell the truth okay but I'm telling you right now you you you told us another story now Jamie was there with you right yeah Jamie's there with you you pick Jamie up nobody's seen her since there is no Ashley is there that's why I don't want to tell you all that because I know all looking back on me Y at the Damn Hospital listen but listen to hone do you think how long do you think we've been doing this look I know I'm going down for it but I go to jail okay listen to me listen what did I tell you earlier this evening you you you need to be patient with us because we're very patient with you okay the best thing you can do right now is tell us the complete whole truth how did you get the baby how there is no Ashley yeah yes there is an Ashley really really there's an Ashley yes there is an Ashley and there is a chain then how are you how why are you getting mad because you're getting mad I'm not getting mad y telling me there's not Ash there is an a listen to listen to us now Kathy you've lied to us how many times now why should we believe you that there's an Ashley now you lied to us you plan this no matter which way I go it goes back to you because right listen no no you I want you you to look at that I want you to look I'm not HED by her I know she's missing but I haven't done a damn thing to her you took her baby you took her baby didn't you look at her look she got her baby she's got huh yeah it's her baby and she's got a mama that's scared to death that was happy about find a granddaughter and you can't be I know you're not that cold blooded person I'm not but you're not telling us the truth listen look at so let me tell you this look at her I'm looking at Jamie she's a beautiful damn young girl she's not here anymore now where is she she is here where where show tell us where she's at and we and we're done tell us where she's at and we're done I don't know what she's at where did you leave her I left her with Ashley where what time on the L we pulled into D gas station we pulled P down there two minutes what time you don't want to look at just picked up from the house you don't want to look at you just went that way you how did actuallyy know to meet you out there she didn't she didn't know to meet you out there she didn't look Kathy Kath you we're going to we're going to find out everything and we already found out the majority of it and we already got enough there is an ashle where's Jamie I where's Jamie you said Jamie never you were adant for an hour and a half that Jamie never even got in the car with you where's Jamie I don't know what Jamie that well you're the last one to be with her you're the last one to be with her [Music] honey I have listen to me listen to me you got to show that you got a heart I got to be able to tell I do have a heart then you got to prove it to me now you got to prove it to me now that you got a heart and that you are a good person that's had a rough life one of two things where's Ashley where's Jamie and you know how to get in touch with Ashley cuz young lady there is no way that you've been riding around here and all of a sudden poof Here Comes Ashley and poof here comes a baby that does not happen do you understand that does not happen so two things right now where's Jamie where's Ashley we need to find one or both now that's the bottom line get me do what get me with me no no we're not getting concerned we're concerned this is our job to figure out what happened and our job is to help you too that but you were the last one this ask me why why are you doing why why are you going to play this whole time because you have S here and you've taken us to Plano where you picked up the you pick up the baby let him talk and look at that we we rode out Plano Road we've looked at all these places taking you around never seen anything resembles what we're looking for because you've taken us out there well now we find out that there's Jamie Jamie hasn't been seen since she was with you today now you keep saying plan a road I got the baby at plan a road FL then hey we found out this there's no way this baby was on Plano Road today with you and Ash there's no way the baby would have died going from PL a road up to where you eventually met up with an ambulance there's no possible way none now you just keep telling a little bit of it at a time a little bit of it at a time and the story fits the more you tell the truth with us okay but we know the story that you've given at first did not fit it didn't fit the physical evidence it didn't fit the time frame and the timeline we know what happened we got eyewitnesses we got Jamie's baby okay the detective is trying to get Ki to understand that the evidence is too strong for her lies to hold up but he isn't having any success it didn't magically appear in your arm sweetheart and she was in your car and she was seen with you and you were the last person she was seen with and the only thing we can do now is is we can get the whole truth out here once and for all and be done with it so we can get you help so we can go and start the healing process because her mom deserves to know her baby deserves to know I don't know don't tell me that honey don't tell me that listen to me and you also sit there and told me for 3 hours that Jamie was never in your car and we know better now you also told me you also told me for an hour or two at the hospital that that was your baby and we know better now right so we know better I bought the baby honey let me tell you something why should we start believing you now until you can lead us to Jamie or you can lead us to Ashley why should we start believing you now honey it's over if I know what Jamie is I don't know what James what you ear mad at earlier you were I'm not I'm trying earlier you were screaming polygraph to us what earlier you were talking about taking a polygraph to us yeah and the whole time you're sitting there lying to us then so why do we need to take one now why why would we need there's no reason the first the first thing here is you know what you probably think that you paid for this baby because you were giving them money for the past several months that you've known them I know that now you've been giving them money I know that I've been giving them money I know you've been giving them money so in your mind sure you've paid for this baby and you could give this baby a better life than she could right could you give the baby a better life than she could because you know why it would give you a better life because it's the life you wanted was shame and you were desperate you were desperate to live he baby with but but listen you baby of Jamie because you know it's Jamie's baby you better tell me at least tell me this you know it's Jamie's baby right do what you know it's Jamie's baby right kyi will not even admit that the baby belongs to St she may believe that without a body they won't be able to prove anything but even without her cooperation it is only a matter of time before SCE is found y'all told me get Jamie no you had Jamie you set it all up to get Jamie's baby honey do you understand what I'm saying you've already told me that just a minute ago you set it up to get Jamie's baby you were supposed to take her not said that yes you did and no I did not and you were supposed to you were supposed to go to morgant toown with Jamie how come you didn't go to morning Town yeah how come I didn't have how come you didn't go to where you were supposed to go with Jam how come you didn't go to morning town with her like you said you were supposed to go with her and how come you didn't tell us you supposed to go to mortown with her and how come you didn't tell us that because she was sick she wasn't going to go but she got in the car with you she left with you how come you didn't tell us she got in the car with you because I know we all going with this we're going to the truth right it's exactly right we're going to the truth you're right when he first asked you about her this evening you know what you did you turned away from him that what whenever he first asked you who Jamie is and you were like who and you turned away from me when you finally heard her name you turned away that tells me I didn't I try away from him when he was asking about much no no no listen to me listen to me okay there's only one way to make this right now only one way y tell tell you where Jam is yes I don't know see there you go you're trying to make me be a Roy whole hearted [ __ ] no no listen listen there's no reason to get mad here because only person who been lying in this whole thing was you the only person that's been lying the whole day is you we have not lied to you once I yes you have you told me I was going to see my kids and my h but you I told you you got to tell the truth to us too and you hadn't done it you not done that you told me I would see my kids in my head do you want to see your kids and your husband is that I mean is that what it's going to be but what are you going to tell them and you you didn't know my kids away from Daddy get them again am I the person that did wrong here do what am I the person did wrong here Kathy who did something wrong today I bought baby I did something you didn't just buy baby didn't buy you arranged for the baby to be taken from her I did not why should here's the question why should we believe you now you've been lying to us ever since I met you why should we believe you now honey the the only I'm a prot li huh I'm prot liar is that it so I've been told a thousand times you've been told that you're a liar I'm a protas li okay so now that we got that on the table we need to know where she's at why do you keep moving stop pushing that towards me why now I'm actually starting to get pissed off okay it's not bothering me is that what you're thinking it bothers me she's Miss but I don't know where she's at you the last one with her honey you were the last one with her and you keep push you were the last one with her you were the last one with her what do you think though I was not you were the last one with it when do you think the DNA testing is going to show do what DNA testing you know what DNA is I'm sure you watch I know what DNA test is is Jam's blood going to be in your car do what is Jam's blood going to be in your car oh no the blood that's in my car is going to be from the placenta thing is Jamie's blood going to be in car so there's not going to be Jamie's why are you yelling I'm not yelling sweetheart you keep asking me I told you where the blood came from no no but no I'm asking besides the perent of blood is Jamie's blood going to be in your car because we're going to find it if it is M do you understand that is it going to be on the outside of your car huh is the blood Jamie's blood going to be on the outside of your car anywhere I I can no okay inside of your car James's blood going to be on the inside of your car no well the blood that's inside my car came from the thing will there be anything in your car that will have her blood on it no so where's her blood going to be Jamie's blood I have no damn clue how why y' trying to pin a Mot on me Mur who said murder Kathy who said Mur you said you saying she's dead I don't know it's all this damn thing you can't [ __ ] new B she said she was you said she was still kicking yep that was your exact word she was when I left her where did you leave her no hell where did you leave her you're not playing this [ __ ] CH where did you leave her if you want me to keep talking and give you all damam information fat the [ __ ] up now let me ask you something calm down no COI can't handle the pressure and she becomes more angry and confrontational the longer she is confronted with the facts Len listen to me listen to me I [ __ ] shut so [ __ ] fast thank you Kathy listen to me now I'm tell you listen to me is that the r you use with list to you want me to keep talking shut okay are you going talk are you going talk y got did you tell her to shut up too one did you tell her to shut up what are you going to do honey say another [ __ ] word I'll quit stopping well are you going to tell us the truth shut up are you going to tell us the truth you trying to pin a goddamn Mur you [ __ ] said that she was you tell on hold on okay are you going to tell I told you the truth I said she was lot and kicking when I left her left her where where'd you leave her I told you at the goddamn apartment but she was with Ashley no now see now it's different now because you said she was alive and kicking yeah when youny with but then when you picked her back up after she was alive she's been alive the whole goddamn time in my present honey you see how much where is all BL that you come from on your car where's it come from I Love the goddamn car I know what [ __ ] do y going take me down for that goddamn [ __ ] take you down what do you mean what if we try to get you help like you keep screaming what if we try to get you you do you get me help I'll buy down and I'll Ki your [ __ ] white ass okay because I know I [ __ ] need it okay you do need it so let us help you yeah now listen to me I [ __ ] know I need help I need to be psychi for I know that okay tell us what happen I'm [ __ ] crazy I'm godamn depressed I have them temper okay we see that with Ko's temper on display it is easy to see how she could work herself into enough of her age to commit murder for a baby she believed should be hers I know that we know that so but don't [ __ ] with my kid don't my kid nobody's mentioned your kids in 3 hours I don't know where D is is it selective what selective selective mem what selective but cuz you don't know where she's at you remember you blocking us out no I don't know what she at you're the last person with her I was that person with I'm person y know that was with her what then tell us where Ashley is you going to have to show us I didn't told you show me pictures of [ __ ] vehicles I tell you car I you stop stop Ashley you know her better than what you put on no I don't okay then how did you where did you plan to meet Ashley with Jamie today because at first you said you're going out to plan whatever now you're going to Louisville Road you never evention louisv Road and furthermore you never even mentioned that Jamie was with you in a car until just about 5 10es with James why did you put RO with James there was two guys standing outside okay when we left the little bitty um cut through what uh low drive all over Road next to the what what is that um what St wood Stone you know wood stone is right off but yeah you turn by that c out and everything mhm and stuff like that and before we went to the thing we went out that way and everything uh you see on my Tex and everything else like that so y text all my text message and everything text I text my kids making sure that they were okay that's what me the most to you in your life my biggest in t today with my kid absolutely and your family and your family and we understand that are much that's that's your pride and joy there we know that and we understand that but you know what can I ask you something mean more can I ask you can I ask you something Kathy will you listen to me and not yell will you listen she would not listen you will you listen to me will you listen to me not yeah we know why it happened yeah we know that I know you know why I told you why then why you keep yelling at us and everything Kathy because we know why it happened we just got to finish out the rest of the story that's what we got to get to the bottom of and and it's not selective guys I was not the posting with her okay honey you going to have to give us more okay we know why your family means more than anything actually knew that I was suppos to take to right you know that right she knew that okay that's what that's right I told her what we be today she knew Jamie she knew Jamie was pregnant okay m know I had been hanging around Jamie mhm okay giving Jamie money giving Jenny money giving Mike money and I'm I'm telling y'all the baby right here this this is she got CAU with Ashley Ashley was supposed to take her home okay yeah and then I went back over to PL of road I was there you were what you were Ro first Plano Road first huh you were at Plano Road first I was at Plano Road first she brought C wrapped up in a yellow blanket yellow blanket and what' she say I had I got the to bad I might have the same thing no I didn't set it up guys okay I set it up for them to be together but not for that okay day I didn't not play for baby I call home CJ or anything she was alive when she left me is she dead now she dead now that what is she dead now kyi has a habit of acting as if she hasn't heard or doesn't understand the question every time that an honest answer would show her guilt did you what is she dead now I don't know that's what I'm telling you on that I don't know I don't think she is but do you you got to understand I I don't I don't I don't I don't thinky hold on you got to understand this okay I mean I'm looking at a picture right now and I see her SM that but I don't feel her being dead well I don't feel I don't feel it here that she but I'm okay you may not feel it here but nobody's heard from her since yeah okay and I'll tell you something else the doctor said there's no way she could have survived no way I didn't do it though there's no way she could have survived but here's the deal honey you show up at the hospital with the baby she's with you that's the last time anybody ever saw her there's no way she could have survived and her family deserves answers and you know what I don't know why she that I know but PL Old Road listen C play on RAD can't play into this it's too far it's too far it's too far from where you were at eventually with the baby the amb me you it's too far that it's too far there a a white bow we knew to clean the lungs and everything like that CH all done that and everything the baby laid in the floor boy he would he would bring the they clean the lungs at at the out 185 you think the ls weren't clean yeah I'm telling you everything that I drove from PL I told you exactly which right I've taken and everything now I ask you this to get to huh and I'll ask you this why were you out there were you finally met up with an ambulance that what why were you out there were you finally met up with an ambulance why were you at 185 why'd you go to 185 in Butler what why did you go out to where you went to okay why did you go there where did I go why why go you went from Plano Road because I went to chell's house I always sto by chell's house after I'm supposed to go to a doctor's app me and she calls chaining she was my unknown I don't know if she knew the truth or not but she never questioned it or anything but I would just go in and I would tell you know we need to call chanon tell him um this far along you know this is what the doctor said and she would say that she's a nose from do ne's office and such and such and such and such and she called from a private number and then I would just go home the level of effort that koi put into convincing people she was pregnant is more evidence that it would be easy to convince herself that this was the right course of action to take tell us this how do we find jie do what how do we find jie I have no clue because you know what we got to find her the only thing the only thing I don't know you know she's a beautiful girl you can try and let me try to me they tell her at least at least you get that part of my damn th that there is and actually okay you getting frustrated with me I guys please okay you get frustrated with me I know all the damn times okay listen to me listen to me Kathy no I'm worried I want to get you help but until you come completely clean with us I can't get you help because you were out there at Shell's what are we going to tell you kids baby what are we going to tell you kid now how are we going to explain this to them what are we going to tell them can we tell them that you're yeah your world I know and we got to tell them y going to put me away and they going to be 18 if not older than that by the time I get out hone what are we going to tell them honey cuz until you give us more than you've given us you're right it's going to be all you because it all points to you you tried to let mebe you tried Kathy you tried you tried your hardest to hold this family of yours together you tried every way you could every way on this Earth that you possibly could to hold your family together your kids your husband and now I did not show going with this now it went this way somebody did you ask any damn that knows me I got tber but I'm not capable of Hur com anybody well you told me you hit somebody in the head with a cast iron skillet earlier so because she was hurting my sister you and I already H her trying to get her to let go Kathy you need help we want to help you okay you need help we want to help you because these two are important to you your husband I know I'm not going to be there she she's also important listen you know what you're not the I see you as a victim too here I see you as a victim too here try but but you got to remember this you got to think of her you got to think of you're a victim here I do understand that you're victim of your circumstances you're victim of your depression you're victim of your miscarriages you're victim of all the stuff that you got raped you you've been molested as a kid you've had family problems and now you got your family and you want to keep them together and you do anything to keep them together wouldn't you but I'm not going to commit motiv but you do anything to keep them together wouldn't you yes okay I don't think you I don't think you I'm not going to commit murder I'm not going to hurt okay it may not have been hurting was it an accident that what it may not have been murdered was it an accident did it accidentally happen did it accidentally go too far it may have been an accident I don't know you're going to have to tell us it could have accidentally went through that's what I'm telling y'all did okay she was alive I put her in Ashley's car she was aive what did ashle say she was going to do with J why would suppos to take her home she's not at home why then why'd you go out little road Coy expects them to believe that this woman had a baby sold it and immediately afterward was willing and able to give stce a ride home it might make sense to Koy but it doesn't to anyone else why'd you go out louiso with her you just drove out louiso dropped her off why wouldn't she just stay at home what' she do supposed to take her to morgant town yeah what what she we went out to road because Jamie had house that she want to look at out that way with them going through the vit and everything only I had actually told actually yeah I know here go I know okay here's here's another story you g here's another story you give me K hold on stop you decide you're going to be nice to Jamie you're going you decide you're going to be nice to Jamie she wants to go look at a house out on blal road oh all of a sudden oh M already had a l of hold on all a sudden all of a sudden oh here's as no I actually knew I was Bes Jamie today but she didn't know you were probably going out to look this house cuz you thought you were going to go to Morgan Town with her you got Ashley's number you got to have some contact with Ashley if if Ashley's involved here if there's really an Ashley you got to have someone to contact asle follows me around I told you that from the damn beginning honey she knew I had Jamie Kathy this is this is very unbelievable hone this is very unbelievable and you know what we've catching too many lies you not put us on to anything right now the only thing I know about you is those two and your husband mean more to you than anything in the whole world they do that's what I know about you and I think anybody you one one thing that's told you at the hospital my [ __ ] way and yeah I'm being just as evil as I can on this my [ __ ] way I will kill myself y'all try to y'all try to take my kids to me nobody's talking about your kids anymore nobody is nobody is to Mur on me watch me be dead murder you keep keep saying y say she's dead we asking you all that godddamn t we want to know I'm talking to y a goddamn attorney and everything I'm tell y don't [ __ ] deny what y'all been telling me because I'm not denying what I told ask we're asking we don't know what happened to her all we know you saying I was the last one with her you were okay that y'all can Bey listen then you're going to have to verify your stop shaking your damn head at me you say that one more time to me and I promise you I promise you what things are going to change that's I'm not talking but I don't have to talk to I'm not talking to you that way I'm not you're not listening to me yes I am what I'm saying I trying to help you okay what did I tell you earlier and all you do your head and everything else you cut me off now listen to me these mean these folks right here mean more to you anything in the world and I know you right now I've been around you long enough to know that anything to get in your way you don't care anything else about it but those folks right there that's what kid oh I know yeah I would you care for them to keep it together I hope that that no I didn't know hang tight you need something else to drink huh you need something else to drink please what do you want fight fight may I use the bathroom and I have not eaten all day long what you want what you got a C of snack machine out here it doesn't have a whole lot in it but any of potato chips anything but potato chips no any kind of Po I don't want chocolate Okay won't you just uh won't you come out here with me and we'll uh you pick something out there we'll you say you need use your restroom again huh you need to use bathroom again yeah okay come on Ain nobody in here a nohe in here more I told I'm bring this he's bringing out my angle we I like cut show I know that's what he's trying to do I have an anger problem once again Coy admits that she has anger problems as her confrontation with the detective proves she cannot stand to be contradicted and blows up as soon as something gets in her way I'm going tell y right now okay me too I have Ang problem that's why I will you at the hospital I was listen it was at the I told I told the two at the hos that I say it's better I be stomping on your toes than stomping your ass you know where I've been on I'm a fighter I'm a figh I what you know where I've been all night that what I said do you know where I've been all night I didn't understand you know where he's been all night I've been on Butler County all evening Butler County Butler County I started over there at Shell's house okay and at my house no Shell's house Shell's house okay yeah went over there there and I got some evidence over there okay and some things got your car okay seen some stuff in your car got that right which I told him there's blood in the passenger side SE if there blood on the outside handle yeah it from the plac thing but do you know CU it was already bleeding when it was but that that placa what they said that but the placenta yeah carries parental DNA okay okay that that that DNA that's in that placa they get DNA from the parents of that DNA that placenta and it shows exactly who the parents are so if you got I'm on WE that so if the placent if the blood in there is the placenta then that shows who the parents are so um that's the first thing but I got your car and I got took care of all that it's not in the yart anymore okay I've got it then I left there and I went and talk to your brother-in-law and your dadd in-law and talk all them well I talked to around here or my house well I went around here first okay and I talked to them and um then I went to your house okay talk to your kids talk to your husband are they okay they're fine they're fine but they're concerned okay okay they they want to know where Mama's at they want to know what's going on Mama okay they're concerned about you but they're also concerned about what went on tonight okay they told me they was and they they don't want to get you in no trouble but they but but listen honey they want to help whatever whoever baby this is okay they want to help them and they did help us you know how you know how I found out whose baby this was how your little boy got on your Facebook page and he showed me who it was coet asked her son to help her kidnap a baby and when he refused she claimed she was just joking okay my my Facebook page yes your little boy what's his name kayen this boy right here Dominic Dominic yes Dominic got on your computer there at your house mhm and pulled up your Facebook page you know what he said right he said there's two Jay girls in here that Mama talks to Jessica Parker poking okay Jamie that's Jessica Perkins and Jamie sty and you know he said Jamie's got some parakeets I believe she does yeah I've seen him I've seen them yeah and uh well not Jamie it's for Mama and M that's right that's right but uh but he pulled that up and he said you need to check on them girls right there and you know what your husband said right he said I can't it's unreal to him and you know what your kids said they said if something happens to Mama can we stay with Shon and I said it ain't up to me why ain't it up to y'all well it ain't my stay with their daddy well that's the only daddy they've ever know but listen it ain't up to us honey but we got to at this point this whole my kids listen listen don't don't get mad listen just we'll find out listen to me a minute okay the husband your husband he loves your kids he wants to keep them he wants to stay with them and all that but but listen at this point we don't think he's got anything to do with any of this he had nothing to do I'm not I'm not saying he does but we got no the whole story okay that's the first thing after I left that house your house mhm after they told me that it was probably Jamie I found out where she lived and I went and talk to her mama jeie okay who jeie St St Jamie's Mama Jamie's Mama J J jeie whatever I'm from the country much like you okay okay it sound like you say s something I don't say they make fun of me all the time them big kids you talking about I don't even or something I swear I hear it all the time I can I can understand him so if you can't you just ask me okay I speak my own language they tell me regularly I speak my own language the detectives have eased back in an effort to get Koy to cool down and prevent her from refusing to talk but it is only a matter of time before she flares up again okay so you went there I went there and I talked to her mama she said I ain't seen her since this morning early and she left with you okay she knows she left with you and then I talked to um Josh and I talked to Mike Josh eigler I know Mike is I don't know who that but he was the fellow that was with Mike okay that putting the horses in the thing yeah put the saw horses in there and they confirmed that y'all left together and since a Nobody seen Jam okay um I heard you talking about this Ashley was it Ashley lman is that who you're talking about tell what you talking about Ashley lfan is that who you're talking about I don't know her last name okay she got blond hair huh she got black hair black hair okay maybe it's a b long cly black hair and like look like a blad p with PR and everything she's really really granny okay but listen here's here's what I put together like I said you know I I told you everywhere I've been I've made my rounds tonight I've been working on this I ain't been up here talking to you and harassing you all night and I ain't been doing all this other stuff I've been out working beating the bushes and and in this time that I've been out beating the bushes I've made several conclusions now I started it and not even knowing who lived over there on rville road which is where Shelly lived and by the end of the night I found out that you was the last one with with Jamie and y'all left Potter Drive okay and when you left Potter Avenue up there at her house 920 Potter Avenue she ain't been back okay so that tells me that whatever happened to her happened with you then you then another piece of that puzzle you walk in you walk in the hospital up there with her baby in your arms and when you walk in there with the baby in her arms she's got all the inside parts that belong to Jamie okay they're there I mean there ain't no denying it um and with these parts there like they told you before that girl is very seriously hurt okay so with that being said there's two options here either you've been planning this for several several months ever since you had your miscarriage back in January or it was a spare moment thing and the reason that makes a difference here's the reason that makes a difference okay if this goes to court if it's a spare moment thing it's looked at different than if it's a PL premeditated act you understand that it's a much harsher penalty if if she's if she ends up dying if she's not dead you're take me down for no no that the question is see that's what the other guy the question the question is murder okay the question what the other keep the question is the question is if and he on the tape listen to you okay we will honey just if if you if you done it just out of the spur moment something happened something clicked you know you got this anger problem she pissed you off and all of a sudden something just happened and then you couldn't go back or if you've been playing it for a long long long time you see what I'm saying it's it's a big okay well it's a little bit just talk baby all right the other two believeing Ashley I told him I can draw up a composite composite that the detective is giving KY a chance to say it was spur of the moment rather than premeditated even though he is certain that isn't the case at this point they will take any chance to get her further away from outright lying actuallyy she got an Ashley car today after she was after she was cut open after I CAU it with her after you cut her belly she supposed to take her home after you cut her belly open huh after you cut the baby out I never she was alive I didn't say she was dead I ain't saying she was dead no her she was she's perfectly fine when I left her how'd you get the baby then but I'm trying and I keep saying I keep saying I keep saying and nobody I'm listen to you how'd you get the baby Ashley brought it to you yes but where did you leave where did you me I'm met her on playo Road listen listen y' please don't shake your head like I did meet her on she wasn't there before me okay but where did you leave Jamie if you left her with Ashley now there the gas station that right there before you get the b m school uhhuh okay the one that's closed or the one that's open Junior food yeah and stuff like that Bristol Road Junior food store goe yeah okay and um we p in there and everything and um there was two guys standing down the so we decided to to drive down the corner nobody could see and she got into Ashley's car Ashley supposed to take her home mhm okay I knew I supposed to meet Ashley later you I'm saying hold on hold on please I'm listening to you actuallyy showed up on play Road and I know you're not falling for road but I at Road okay I got there her she hand me cayen with a baby whatever you want to call hat my baby tell up baby um when she hated him to me he was the yellow B it know she got okay you do care though hone I believe you do you do care if you did listen if you did didn't care you know what if you wouldn't help Kathy got that baby that ch right there you car I listen to the one but but that shows you care you done it cuz you care about Kath you talk like this don't you did you talk like this and she smiles all the time last time I talked to her she was crying cuz she was hurting so bad inside because it's happened and because she knows that her children are down there with Shannon and she knows know her and she knows that Jamie ain't going to get to see her kid listen you you care about Kathy and if you care anything about Kathy which it's obvious she does her you wouldn't Ashley you wouldn't have done this you that you wouldn't have done this if you didn't I saying I have saying you want to know what it is yeah better I'm stomping on your toes and St your ass you you I'm BL where's Jamie at where's Jamie at a tell tell us for Kathy tell us for question Coy's mind can't withstand the pressure and she has completely switched personalities y'all keep asking me like I [ __ ] care I know you don't care but Kathy does tell us for Kathy y pick just tell us for Kathy we're J okay just like the on at the damn [ __ ] Hospital every time you like this you going piss me off I'm the only one that really knows you if you want C boo [ __ ] [ __ ] down here I'm in [ __ ] control you can't do [ __ ] about don't know what I want to know no I do I know you do but who's going there for it both both of you hell [ __ ] I know where it go both of you I know what it if you care about Kathy and you want to see her get some help listen if you care about Kathy I swear he's the death one that happen I don't care I didn't ask you if you cared but Kathy does you know what I've been doing it I've been acting so well that I had them fool I had everybody fool that I would just one person but that I had a temple P I had everybody [ __ ] food yeah except for me except for me how did you figure it out how Kathy told me no she didn't she did no she didn't she did she don't want nobody to know I know she didn't tell you she told me no she didn't have you been in here the whole time yeah she didn't tell him did she and don't lie to me KY did don't lie so tell on Kathy tell us where Kathy would not a damn y'all playing me for [ __ ] stupid I ain't playing you for stupid Kathy is a ly [ __ ] [ __ ] that to on you is who she is all right you can call what you want [ __ ] if you don't care then you tell on her I don't care what you think about me what you think told you already told us Kathy's the one that's going down so let's put her down we're going to do it let's do it right tell us where Kathy put Jamie's body we'll take her ass to jail I headache thank you this this Kathy please tell us where Kathy put her is that how Kathy's Kathy's one going down ain't that what you said did she you hate me I don't give a [ __ ] I don't hate the detective is understandably frustrated this type of questioning really requires more specialized training and he knows that he is unlikely to get CAU back into a state of mind to help the investigation I wanted to remind you once again my new merch shop is up stranger.com is full of relatable designs like the unstable and the mentally checked out t-shirts as well as other cool items like the allseeing beanie and the stranger socks every purchase helps support this Channel and you can even write me a short message on the purchase page I'll be reading every single message that comes with any order big or small so head head to stranger.com and get whatever you want what that said let's get back into the case I I don't give a [ __ ] see the thing about me I don't care who I pissed off I don't care what you think about me because probably what you think about me the whole hell was think about you I mean I don't care I don't need no God [ __ ] okay her damn little one yeah she need shut up okay I'm talking thank you very very fing let me ask you a question shut up let me ask you no no shut uput let me finish while I'm saying and then you can talk okay okay thank you thank you now she goes what her husband thinks she can't live without [ __ ] ass okay so they fight all the night same time okay the kids are small asses and everything I am yeah I am you're right me y leaving yep we're going to leave again see no I'm not done talking F [ __ ] I was actually trying to [ __ ] talk y so picking me up the detectives have to step outside to determine whether or not it is worth the time to continue the interrogation you're pcking up oh very nasty for Kathy huh you need anything to drink you got something to drink yeah I have to thank you okay is there anything I do for you want somebody to talk to who you want to talk to yeah to my kid okay well you to here's the deal here's here's what we can do you want to talk to your kids okay we got to get through this we got to get to the truth who do you want to talk to right now and if if whoever you of my life you tell me you were going to let me what you told us the full truth I'm telling you the kyi has switched back to her original personality but she is no closer to being honest okay let me talk for a second Kathy okay listen Kathy I don't know how to tell okay okay listen to me Kathy for just a second okay right now you want somebody to talk to who do you want to talk to right now it can't be your kids until you tell us the full truth I'm telling the who I'm telling you the who who yes I am all right hang tight I'll be right back with you okay [Music] I'm telling you all right Kathy you're the one I want to talk to why do y keep saying you want talk to Kathy why I'm Kathy I mean I talk but I mean you've been talking to you know don't you what are you talking about what you about I'm not sure what you're talking about sweet why do y'all keep saying calling me calling me you trying to make [ __ ] no I just wanted I going to come here and talk to you a minute can I tell you some information I'm trying to help y guys I'm not going to can you listen to me for just a minute okay let me tell you what I've got okay I've been doing this a long time okay I want to help you and I believe you want to help yourself I can't no I'm a I'm a steak Tripper no I know listen to me sweetie listen to [Music] me I know you want to go home I want my kids please yes I do please okay help us help us help you okay now listen to me let me tell you what I've got okay I've got your car out there okay got your Toyota out there not toyot and it's got Jam's blood all in it okay from the well listen to me I've got her bloody fingerprints on it also okay what bloody fingerprints Jamie's bloody fingerprints probably from where that I ches prince who Jamie Jamie Jamie Jamie uhuh she was in the car yeah she been in the car I took call mom I've got bloody fingerprints okay I've got her blood on my car on your car yeah no yeah I do I didn't do it I I just need to find her okay whether you did it or not I don't know where she's at H I'm tell when you brought that little baby in to miss Lindsay's house it's okay when you brought when you brought that little baby into Miss Lindsay's house can I tell yeah you me if I told you I'll try person Ashley's what Ashley's not a person Ashley's not a person think I'm don't don't don't what don't I'm sorry I can't hear you sweet i' got talk too L okay don't make me mad don't make you mad I don't want to make man you think I'm so crazy just go list I promise you I'm not going to make you mad I belong in a psychiatric for what I do I don't belong in jail okay I have committed I don't believe you many suspects lie about their mental health to try to get a reduced sentence but in this case KY is correct she is lying about the murder but her need for psychiatric care is very real belong in jail I don't believe you belong in jail okay you know ja please okay please I I need beatric I know that okay how do you know that you probably not going to tell no just me and you Ashley what Ashley's inside you she com she comes out when you get mad okay did you get [Music] mad okay did you get mad at Jamie I haven't got mad at Jamie no I didn't okay that tells us a lot then don't it don't tell don't think I'm crazy they think I did it I didn't do it asley did it Ashley did it how did she do happen to okay I won't tell them how did she do it yeah yeah she's in you all you had to do sweetie I've dealt with I've dealt with this before you dropped her off with who Ashley Ashley's inside you so you couldn't have dropped her off with Ashley right she was in your car right I had her with me and I her with Ashley what kind of tools did Ashley use it's in here Coy used a drywall knife to remove the baby from SCE it's in here what kind of tools get out I don't want Ashley out I don't Kathy knows all you have to do would want to know sweetheart I don't I want to know be honest I don't want to know if it helps you you want to know don't you it helps you see Brianna again you you want to know I've been called that b okay told several times a [Music] coupley but my family everybody notices that I have like a split personality split personality well see when you have split personalities when you have split personalities you can remember you can know what the other one knows now what I need you because I'm going now for it well sweetheart you you're a victim in this you're a victim you're not the bad person they don't see my baby do you think prison is a place for sick people sick prison is not a place for sick people how am I supposed to watch them you will can you promise me that I wish I could sweetie I wish I could but I can't promise that but I feel like down in here I feel like you will okay what I need right now sweetie I need you to reach down real deep and I only remember bits in pieces okay and I tried to help them find where I would you there's finally been a turning point KY is being more honest although she is fearful of what this will ultimately mean for her it is also difficult for Koy to face what she has done which is why she avoids answering directly as much as possible I told you tell me those pieces to um play no Ro okay okay there that white F uhhuh there that opening between them trees right there where I show them that the last that's all I can get actually with with you okay I don't they tell me a lot of time I've g off in somebody MH I don't remember it right okay you might not but you can okay I'm telling you you can remember when she comes through I I don't it's I have spells almost like a blackout I don't I don't know I can be driving out the road and not remember how I got from one place to the other place I be sitting there talking to my kid and then all of a sudden they're gone I'm like well why don't you walk off I went off on him and I don't remember going off on my babies CU I would never h them tell let me tell you what Brianna told me what at the house earlier she told me that you told her that you had miscarried a few months ago she told me that y'all had that conversation and then you told her you was just kidding okay she knows she knows she's smart little girl she I tried to to yeah and she started crying didn't she and and you didn't want to I understand that I tried to tell I did I did I did I tried to give P I believe that I really did I tried okay I kept ask it it wasn't for okay you me did he tell you no it was would you leave me that's my baby yeah that's my baby k I don't think Shannon wants to leave you he loves you I talk to Shannon too of course Shannon's a little confused right now I did it for I want to everybody knows you did it for love everybody knows that I want a baby I know you did sweetie I know you did you wanted it real bad I not harm her I didn't do that you didn't want to harm her I know that I didn't but you had to get that baby you had to and I understand that okay everybody's going to understand that want her baby I just want to a baby she just happened to be at the right time and you would have been a good mom to her I know you would have been a good mom to Katee I know that everybody knows that okay now I'm going to tell for it maybe not you're sick what I'm asking you to do away for a long time no not a long time away for my baby just till you get good and you need to be good I want to be good I know I have depression yeah they have medication that helps you with that a lot I think I have a temple problem that's what I think when you make me mad okay I don't remember anything but I heard people say oh I have I have a mouth on okay too okay I have a mouth on me I'll tell you that right now it's not funny but I don't know how to get through this but to smoke okay everything I don't everybody can tell you when I get mad get a blank expression comes across my face yeah I hell have you ever heard of the crisis intervention team a what Crisis Intervention team uhhuh okay that is a special team that deals that is trained to deal with people like you okay was like me though crazy no sick sick you have you have sick you have a mental sickness okay you have mental sickness and there's medication for that there's a hundreds of different kind a lot I know you I've heard that a lot okay but let me promise you one thing something I didn't do I'm going to promise you one thing COI is in danger of becoming worked up again there's too much for her to process and she is unable to regulate her emotions there is the right medication out there there is I've talked to people that's 60 years old have I don't know I'm trying to talk low for you my for some reason don't pissed me off having be honest with me not me but maybe somebody did I don't know I just got here no no you were here you made me cry over over well yeah I mean that's that's you got here now no I got here about 30 45 minutes ago but I think somebody might have made made you mad before I got here okay cuz I was talking to that guy but when I was St what I was talking about was the sicknesses this these sicknesses there is the right promise you the right medication will make you better make you can I take a polyic test to show you how I didn't do anything poph test don't tell us nothing they don't tell us do I just want to tell her that I didn't do anything to I believe what you're saying okay let me tell you there's medication that'll make you better you'll just be away from your children till you get better but what I have to I go to jail why would you go to jail sweetie you're sick you have a mental illness you told me you've been diagnosed by [Music] po to me that baby what did you use to cut the baby sweetie that baby might turn well I already know the baby's hers we got that test back okay already know that I'm going to have water no you're you're sick sweetie you're sick okay you know what what can make this better though what can make it better that time away from my kids for something I try to hide for you that you don't need to hide it babe you don't need to hide it you can't live a normal life that people will take you care you can live a normal life I do I'm that one guy threatened me well do you remember tell week do you remember me telling you about the crisis intervention team yeah I'm on that team I'm trained to deal with MTH come see me yeah okay I do you been C anything I like talking to you because I learn a lot a lot of information from people like you and everybody I talk to that has a mental illness teaches me more and helps me talk to the next person okay right now what can really make this situation better is for you to dig way down deep inside of you and tell me those bits and pieces that you said you remembered do what I how I don't know how know well let me tell you something I I've dealt with a lot of mental illness people a lot of split personalities and I know you can you can find out the information that Ashley knows I know she she don't have to tell you Ki has access to all the information but she may have mental barriers in place to prevent her from remembering it doesn't help that the Kathy person ity is weaker than Ashley you know why cuz her brain is your brain I don't remember anything but you can I know you don't I know you don't but you can I'm tell I'm telling you the truth I don't know anything got a migraine you know why you got a migraine because she is trying to keep you from remembering that's why you've got a m I'm battling she tell I don't want to talk to Ashley but you're not mad and I'm not going to make you mad you know why she wants to come out because she don't want you to give help because she don't want you she wants you to go to prison of course she does of course she does why I keep tell I don't know any well sweetheart you do know you do know you just got to find it how do I I don't know how to tell to find it I don't know cuz I want to help you I told them I want to help you'all okay think about this everything backwards we went to play Everything backwards do you remember do you remember do you remember going into Miss Lindsay's house is that was that a friend of yours is Lindsay a friend of yours that's okay no it's okay do you know Lindsay did she help you do me a favor please go back out M I'm sorry go back go back out thank you will you hear my you're drink yeah going B can you'all please please give me something for I'll I'll try [Music] to I'm hold my head Hur my B you know why she's trying to keep you from telling me I'm going to help you I know you do I know you do I know you do I believe that 100% Coy is visibly struggling she may not be able to stay in control for very long okay my M hit me real bad when he come in has he pissed me off he may have he's the one that know he's the one that knows that's him he's the that know okay he knows he know he know honestly be honest with me what he know Li so don't I don't know does he he know that don't don't don't don't don't just don't lie to him please don't let me m please I'm okay he I believe so I heard him mention actually yes how I did not tell you did I did I tell you no I didn't tell you I didn't tell you I didn't tell you you I told you I okay my is I'm not Prett okay let's go back do you remember did you know uh the Linds Miss Lindsay that you sh Lindsay Shelly yeah shell Lindsay you knew her right yeah I know her she she helped you with the baby right yes she did when you went there I don't remember everything I know can you start backwards from Shell's house and tell me everything start backwards I had car uhhuh I left with Ashley okay ready I went over there to Plano Ro okay I was on what that what's that with the daugh do where the Sonic is yeah is it restful Road I [Music] no I have on okay I with Ashley okay I want to play no rope baby [Music] start at Shell's house sweet start at Shell's house there you go good job good job I know you are I know you are I know start at Shell's house and go backwards you're at Shell's house and you're you're going you're coming up to the front door the barbecue pit the barbecue pit that's why I keep telling them I picked up the baby I want to try to where where at at the barbecue pit it's house okay where was you at the barbecue P right in the drive I'm sorry right in the drive in the front just right in the I was thr my hor but she didn't hear me you was your from the barbecue P yeah she didn't hear me did you pick it up off the ground the baby the baby was already com and and I pick pick him up off the ground or what no and I floorboard on the floorboard yeah on my car when did it get in your car he got in my car on PL Old Road the baby wouldn't have lived that long the baby wasn't breathing I not okay the baby didn't start breathing I got him and iove I'm just tell I um remember this is what I did I got got him Ono [Music] road so is that where J's at I got I went down is that where J's at on Plano Road oh that I don't know I'm going to die if I you know that right I promise you can't you don't you can't St her I can with the right medication can stop her every time koi comes closer to revealing new information she Cycles back to worrying about what will happen to her and does not believe that medication will help on some level she may realize that she will still be incarcerated for a long period of time I'm telling you I I deal with all the I deal with these you this sickness all the time the right medication can stop her it can I promise you that I've talked to people that lives great lives now that used to be just like you it's just a manner of finding the right medication and it takes a long time and I know it some of them have bad side effects and some of them aren't Pleasant I know all about that but I don't want to go through all that no but you you have to go home to the kid please once we find the right medication and make you all better you can't I can't go home of course but you don't put me in prison why would I put you in prison honey because what about Jamie trying to play the home water the guys and Listen sweetheart we already know you killed her we're just trying to figure out that I pay for it right not necessarily no trying to say that I know everything that I did this I did that I want to go home to my kids I know you do I know you do and I want you to too for them when I was talking to them they made me love them because they were so they are they are you brought them up good you did good job I be like be a little he look just like you he to play his video games and Chey those are my w I know they are sweetie I know they are will you trust do you trust me do you trust me with everything you've got I do trust you for some reason I really do and I don't trust a lot of people I do trust you I know there's some kind of to me you you kind you think like you got to hard would't you help me pleas I'm going to help you and I will help you I'm sick you I'm sick I'm crazy you're sick you're not crazy no I'm crazy you're not crazy you're sick right now I need you to help me help you I can't do this by myself I need you to help me you bad if you do if you do look at me I want to help you so bad I really really really Coy's willingness to help highlights the importance of having the right person handling the interrogation while the original detectives would have been well suited for most cases they were right to switch over to someone with more specialized training let's let's do this together are you ready okay okay you're at Shell's house okay you're walking up on the front door and you have the baby in your hands okay yeah it's a baby right now let's go backwards in time okay this will help you remember let's go backwards in time walk to your car okay where is your car okay go back to the car where is your car my car is in your right now back out I dropped in little Lo because that put little too heavy okay now back out and pull out of her car out of her yard and go back the way you can at the barbecue pit okay is Jamie there is Jamie there no she's not there are you sure yeah Jamie wasn't wasn't bad okay Jamie so the barbecue p is on 185 right was on okay where on l Road this CH she around the gas station around the gas station it's okay hold on hold on she's trying it's coming she's trying she's trying because you're coming clean sweet please don't please don't please don't please don't please don't back away back away back away back away back away back away please I you can do this you can do it sweetie fight through it you're stronger than she is which one you want I want the SM one you did it you did it you happy now she beging she beg you don't BR me out D yeah as expected the pressure was too much and the Ashley personality has regained control yeah you finish it what gas station is she at those tears don't work on me him tear don't work on me you're not going to get it out of her do you not realize that you tell all kinds of Co of [ __ ] [ __ ] let me tell you something she's not going to know nothing I want her to know it she knows it she tell you she know she's throwing down for she's not going to tell you there's nothing to go down for he ass hello did you come come on back in talk to me you can handle it I can handle it can you have you got anything no she's not going to tell you [ __ ] they're up there on the little road let me tell you something I know how to kill I know without there being a damn cheat you can keep going through without all you [ __ ] want there being a what now I know how to commit suici that before you hurt yourself though pick that up before you hurt no yes before you hurt your take for me no Coy believes she is in control of the situation and that she has power over the detective by withholding information this might have some truth if they didn't know that sty is dead and they aren't in a Race Against Time talk nice to me and I'll help you talk nice to me and I'll talk nice to you and I'll throw it at you if I pick it up I don't care you been charged with the UN talk I might just one more charge I don't give a [ __ ] listen listen what me and you got a connection yes you even it's okay I don't give me you understand each other don't we that what we understand each other okay so you know something you finally able to figure it out no hell I would finally hell it took me what 10 minutes wow you know down you know going for yeah I I be and she'll be sitting in [ __ ] prison give her I heard that [ __ ] you can give her try to get rid of me I okay because you know what then who sting there K I give a [ __ ] so let's get Kathy the hell out of here un let me and you talk talk this is all I want to know that's what you want to know okay she was last with me Big D right I thought we do this time is that where she's at is that where she's at then move by Junior food inside that little shed right there is that where you killed her at is that where you killed her at and cut Caden out no I really don't like you right I know okay good I know but you respect me actually I don't I do think you're very smart to know who I am I understand you you're the first no everybody kep oh cath has PK eyes me listen what just tell me you call to Cathy everybody else does I ain't call to Kathy let's talk about where Jamie's at and want talk about whatever you want to talk we'll talk about whatever you want to talk about after that just tell me where she's at I'll send them guys go get it in you'll sit here and [ __ ] the rest of night if you want to but you're acting like I give a [ __ ] I ain't saying you give a [ __ ] I'm not I'm you're tired of talking about this [ __ ] ain't you you let me go pee tell me where she's at when go pee no I have a pee and I pissed on myself I don't care the Ashley personality enjoys power plays and takes malicious pleasure in being difficult it makes any progress almost impossible won't take but two words l Road 185 I have to pee okay come that watch it up Pi up thr what the hell I can act all happy pick it up pick it up what do I get for picking it up okay okay so my lady I talk to me about Jamie sty right there tell me where she's at and then we'll talk about whatever you want to she could be here she could be there but where is she you know yeah I do know you do know it matter hm do it matter does to me are you going quiet hm are you little quiet no but her mama's cry he one of those hm neither one of them matter I ain't talking about them I'm talking about her mama is her baby e breathing yet because I decided to give some who car about her G her kiss and Jamie tried to steal that baby from you that what Jamie tried to steal that baby from you that's the reason you had to kill her right right wrck that up C pick it up then pick it up what do I get for picking it up throw it at me again p on back that a't what I want well good didn't pick it up uhuh you really pick me off I pick it up M pick it up you really you really happy you figured it out don't you you just one cck that's you're smart I'll give you that you're smart I ain't that smart you're smart I ain't that smart everybody else just started with just C [Music] life I know many [ __ ] people just talk to me about D will you I know you don't give a [ __ ] I know you don't care about nobody I know you don't one thing you're not going to get me what you that what's it matter what's it matter why not I mean really what's it matter you don't care about nothing Kathy's going to go to jail you don't you don't care you don't care about nothing you can't split me from you can't split me from I mean I know but why why why I give you credit though you you why does it matter if you tell us where she's at what's I mean what's it going to make a difference all that's going to do is get me the hell away from you you can go relax somewhere here's the thing SM ass you know it what if I don't tell you where she's at you can't KY is mistaken there is enough evidence to prove that stce is dead and all the evidence points to Koy being responsible it's done done baby it's done done you can't do [ __ ] to me I don't need to find her the only reason I want to find her is for her mama other than that I don't give [ __ ] mama or me I don't know I don't know tell m but we don't have to find her that it don't matter whether we find her she's gone that's not true you can't give me for [ __ ] we done got you C you C but for what can you push his dead most definitely you cannot most definitely no you cannot yeah I can no you [ __ ] cannot do you think you can cut the whole energ out of somebody body and then not die I mean think about it you had her uterus you had her ovaries you had her Fallopian tubes do you think somebody can survive with the with their abdomen split wide open with all that internal [ __ ] cut out I mean really or you you're smarter than that she did you're smarter for about 5 minutes for about five minutes she lasted longer how long she last no matter maybe 10 minutes but you know when they're just sitting there sling like that that ain't life all that is is just nerves who that [ __ ] pay for [ __ ] that's what you all that is is nerves that ain't lie nerves when they're just laying there flopping that ain't life you said yes she's alive that gasping for a that gurgling sound that you heard that [ __ ] bubble she was blowing out of her nose and her mouth she never blew any bubbles out of her nose she never blew no bubbles her mouth and all that blood that came out she didn't bleed a whole lot NE oh yeah there's a lot of blood in that car I don't know what talk did you cut her across or did you cut her up and down huh did you cut her across or did you cut her up and down she wasn't when I did I know she wasn't the the blood in the car it's from the baby I don't know Kathy had the baby in the D damn car okay where' you cut her at where was she at when you cut her she was not cut in the damn car where was you at then that what where were you when you cut her it does matter I don't where was you when you cut her you think Kathy she's so sweet and she I don't like her either I don't like her I don't like either damn one of I don't like either one of you yeah the [ __ ] [ __ ] you told that Dam yeah that's why I come back I'm trying he's trying to get [ __ ] out of I know me tell you something you don't know she can't remember and I remember you do oh yeah I KN where was when you cut her she cling her eyes out and she tell you she don't know nothing I don't care what y [ __ ] know about split personality guess what I know how to block [ __ ] she cannot ask where were you when you cut her it don't matter it does matter where she name get these damn things off me [ __ ] it I'm done with you I don't give a [ __ ] you do go cry me and [ __ ] leing I ain't going to cry for you I ain't going to cry for you a bit no I don't give a [ __ ] I know you don't you got anything else I don't care you got anything else to say for me what are you going to do what you cry you look like you about to cry you got anything else to say to me you know who's going to go down Ashley you got anything else to say to me who who you going you going to tell me anything tell you what where Jamie's at5 where she at then it does matter where she at I'll go get her you going to tell me no no no no okay well upon no don't you understand the Ashley personality is unbothered by sce's death and even takes a smug pleasure at the thought of getting away with murder her violent acts have escalated to the point that she will continue to be a danger to others if left unchecked I thought you gave up smart ass I do I'm done with you he not that's why you keep coming back no I'm done with you no you're not the case officer which is this fell right here is fixing the bring you know how you know how you said we can't do nothing how we can't do nothing without the body that what we can't do anything without the body you can't do nothing if I don't tell you what she this man right here is fixing to bring a saltation in here for you for capital murder and kidnapping of this child and for this lady right here who's falling for it who's going there you are no I'm not so in order for you to help yourself right now Ashley if he's we're going to char you only [ __ ] figure that you blame Kathy the whole [ __ ] time she knows where but you know what he's going to be the one put you in prison he's going to be the one charge you you know what's funny about it you charge me you charge me you CH me [ __ ] cut me [ __ ] oh you're done see we can please say byebye to your kids and everything else byebye to your kids and everything else you're done yeah you want to cooperate with us you want to tell us where want to tell us where Jamie's at please please take a my to and my heart no cut into my I swear I you're done you're done honey done have a seat get the trip have a seat get the done with you you're done we're done playing let me tell you let me let me tell you the bottom line let me tell you the bottom line here give me a second let me tell you the bot you are a sorry ass ass my [ __ ] you are going to prison you're going to prison come on they going me [ __ ] don't broke my wi I broke my wi you better not break let me ask you something you going cooperate my C stop stop stop please please please please please [Music] stop as the interrogation ends koyi begins to switch rapidly between personalities neither one able to maintain control Kathy Koy pleaded to three counts murder capital kidnapping and kidnapping she was eligible for the death penalty but by taking a plea deal she was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole Isaiah survived his horrific entrance into the world and is being raised by his father and continues to visit his maternal family on a regular basis thanks again for watching don't forget to like the video and if you want to support the channel even more there's a patreon link in the description below stay safe and I'll see you in the next video