would that make you an accessory yes or no i don't know what the legal i'm not asking you for a legal opinion i'm asking you if that would make you a [ __ ] accessory to shooting at a cop yes or no this video contains the interview of a man suspected of firing a gun at the police on april 21st 2012 a complaint was made by a resident in the rural area of florida about noise coming from their neighbor's property when police arrived to check things out a gunshot was heard and a bullet struck the police car richard barker a diabetic man in his 50s was taken in for questioning parker claims he had only been shooting a pellet gun earlier but shells were found at the scene which contradicts his story thank you okay i'm detective lawrence this is uh detective supervisor reuben okay i might reuben tonight roger robin yes okay he's good people isn't he yep well you all guys are you know i'm going to suck up to him because he's my supervisor all right listen here's a pen we're going to go over this i don't have any glasses i can't see okay well then i'll i'll read them to you okay this is something that i like to do i like that it's like a participatory thing um you're you're obviously at a police station okay you're being detained because there's a pending investigation because of that pending investigation you have to be read your miranda warnings okay this is nothing to be intimidating or anything like that okay like i said you're being detained so we're trying to figure out what's going on because you're in a police department you can be construed that you're under arrest so yeah that's what i thought is going why you know exactly so one of the things that we're required to do is advise you of your fifth amendment rights per the bill of rights you understand that what they are you understand okay so that's what we're going to talk to you about okay now before we go any further obviously we know that you want to talk to us about what happened out there because i'm we know that you want to tell us your side of the story okay there's no confusion about the fact that we're the police right okay so i'm going to go over this with you and then you can verbally acknowledge with me and he can witness the fact that i'm reading you your miranda okay okay so you have the right to remain silent what that means you don't have to answer any questions that myself or my supervisor ask you do you understand that yes sir okay should you speak to me anything that you say can and may be used against you in a court of law do you understand that okay you have the right to speak with the lawyer before speaking to me or my supervisor and to have that lawyer here with you during questioning now or in the future do you understand that yes sir okay if you cannot afford to hire an attorney and you want an attorney one will be appointed to you before we ask you any questions do you understand that if you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present you still have the right to stop answering questions at any time until you speak with your attorney okay knowing and understanding these rights as i have read them to you are you willing to make a statement and answer my questions without an attorney present yes okay have you previously requested from either myself sergeant reuben or any other deputy or law enforcement officer to speak to an attorney no okay you understand what your rights are correct yes sir and with that understanding you're willing to speak with us without an attorney present correct yes sir okay we didn't threaten you we didn't promise you anything no okay all right first of all just so i can get things squared away first name richard p parker b-a-r-k-e-r barker yes b.a i like bob parker okay are you from boston yeah what's your date of birth 1955 and where do you live i live at 110 northeast 48th street oakland park florida 33 334. how long have you lived there i bought the house i think in 2000 2004 i think i bought it maybe 2001 2002 i bought it okay 10 years yeah phone number uh my cell phone is the only phone i have it's 954 803 9622 803 nine six that's got a blanket i'll see if i can get anyone oh man it's not that cold in here man i know but i was sitting in that cell and that thing was blowing right down on me yeah that ac was look at me 9622 correct okay do you work um i'm disabled you don't do anything additional for any additional income or anything um i was a hairdresser for uh 40 years okay every now and then i could do a haircut you know where would you like yours yeah where was your business coral springs florida where um in the rainbow wood plaza where's that onion uh it's on it's right across from it's on uh barker is relaxed and friendly as if he doesn't have a care in the world he's already cold but that is most likely deliberate if a suspect is uncomfortable it increases the chance of them spilling information so they can get out serna takes a sip of water replaces the cap and then without a pause he removes the gun from his pants and raises it to his left temple there is no hesitation diversity in rumble what drive i had a business there for five years have you ever been arrested before yes um i had a felony charge many years ago to get convicted or i was withheld adjudication i met a girl in a bar that drank an age at that time was 18 years old we went out in the car we had sex i didn't ask her for her id her mother pressed charges against me when i went to go see her again but it wasn't no forcible you know but i'm telling you guys the truth no i don't know you weren't convicted of that right were you arrested for any other felonies uh no that's the only time you've ever been arrested no i got a dui a couple of times once twice but i i think i only have one conviction on that what year was the um the statutory crime the felonies over almost 38 years ago that was a long time ago yeah yeah and even even the judges gave me um even with that on my record um i got a custody of my daughter right you know because they knew it was just like a you know stupid thing that happened it wasn't like nothing intentional or just give us a minute let me see what okay talk to me about your house is it a three bedroom two bedroom it's a three bedroom three bedroom yes sir okay living room floor room yeah living room kitchen front room bedrooms i'm just renting out rooms you know because i need the extra money that's where i can pick up a few extra bucks you know what i'm saying okay so do you have a florida room too like a tv room yeah well the living room i would call it okay have you been in the house you guys didn't you know i i didn't i told him i said i got two goddamn pellet guns you can have him i don't even want to see him he's gonna go he's gonna go get you a blanket thank you i think i'm done with renting after this little episode where if i'm in boston richard i grew up in framingham massachusetts who do you rent rooms to people that can't afford to pay first lasting security pretty much okay do you know their names i get their first names i don't ask them to sign any leases as long as they pay me okay who who do you have renting rooms from you right now i've got jeff diane woody tanya and her son just was released for a domestic and he started staying there which i'm not happy about okay and these people pay you rent um you know what well they can afford i you know because i got a big heart i say hey you know okay this is all you can afford right now at least you got a roof over your head you're not in a soup kitchen get your [ __ ] together try to find a job i got you um jeff and diane have their own separate room no they look their boyfriend and girlfriend okay they have their own separate room yes woody does he have his own separate way he's been staying on the couch okay he sleeps on the couch thanks brother tanya and her son do they sleep in a room they sleep in a room together okay and then obviously you have your room yes yes that's a blanket that's all we got it's this is one of those space age ones oh yeah i thought you were gonna um you know freezing i i ride a motorcycle so what's up with that tattoo man anarchy tattoo it's a tattoo that was given to me okay but in my club all right okay but we'll get to that but i don't i don't i don't i'm not with him anymore i'm out of that scene we'll get we'll get to all that in a little while okay cause i ride a bike and i know a little bit about all that [ __ ] okay yeah just because of some of the bars that i hang out in and stuff like that but we'll get to that a little while all right i'm gonna tell you guys the truth i was out there shooting my pelican okay well and you know that was it and you know if there's anything else i mean i don't know what to tell you okay and that was it and i'm not gonna lie about it i have no reason to it's out there being you know silly shooting at a couple of beer cans i had four beers tonight feeling a little oats in me and i was shooting at him next thing i know jesus i was in bed and all of a sudden like spotlights in my house and everything the police are interested in barker's biker connections but that is going to be saved for later barker admits to shooting a pellet gun but the forensics say that that wasn't the weapon that was fired the other goddamn thing so that's it i mean you can guys can have guns i don't care anymore because i don't want to see him again because if this is what it cost me i don't want to be there again that's it richard i've been doing this job a long time yes sir okay i work in new york city you know i work here i've talked to a lot of different people i grew up summers in massachusetts all right newton waltham every place sharon right so i know a lot of people from massachusetts all right the thing is is that i'm going to tell you right now while you're out in your lawn some of your neighbors call the police they listen listen to what i'm saying yeah people started videotaping okay everybody's got a camera now that's why the police came there in full force all right i know somebody had a gun a real gun not a pellet gun so what i want you to do is i need you to start thinking about your house okay and your freedom you need to start telling us the truth about what happened tonight well i i was i because there was a real gun tonight besides the pellet guns that are over there and i need you to tell me the truth about what happened i don't know no you do know no i don't yes you know you do know i don't know what happened tonight that somebody brought out a real gun because we're about let me explain something to you we're about we're about to serve a search warrant on your home right which includes attic every place that a gun could fit and it's not going to be it's not going to be pretty so the thing is is that if you're honest with us about where the gun is that that's that's the what we have to do the little amount of work that we need to do looking for that firearm right you need to be honest about what happened tonight because we are like again when we get a search warrant from a judge we could search vehicles on your property right we could search any place in your home right attic your ship i don't understand that all right but listen and if we find a gun and you lied to us everything that you said to us is going to be going in front of a judge right is there going to be a gun in your house not that i know of okay when you say not that you know of is it possible that somebody else brought a firearm into your home uh could be possible yes okay out of the people that are here tonight which person is the person that's most possibly brought a gun into your home i you know guess what i rent to [ __ ] people that have nothing okay and i probably made a big mistake okay and i don't want to take a hit for something i don't know about and we don't want you to we want you to post it so i don't know and i'm telling you the truth i don't know okay well again i'm going to ask you because you are the owner of the house and this is possibly on video what happened tonight your neighbors are pissed off what i love my neighbors and we get along very well apparently you don't get along with them very well because that's who called us here tonight apparently you don't so tell me what happened tonight that brought the police there to your home i was sleeping when the police came no you know what let me explain something to you okay he's he's being nice to you i started off being nice to you he's being nice to you okay let me explain something to you we we talked to diane we talked to jeff we talked to mike okay now we're talking to you if you think for one second we don't have our [ __ ] facts straight you better start thinking again i have a pelican i know you have a pellet gun because that's pretty obvious you've already told us that okay what my sergeant is trying to get through your skull right now okay is we are not here to play games with you exactly okay so with that understanding and that understanding you know i'm telling you the [ __ ] truth here and you know you guys you know i'm not listen there are shell casings in front of your house okay that we are going to now take and we are going to test that includes dna fingerprints right okay now you're telling me there is no gun in your house okay we're going to test it we're going to test get a judge's order for your dna for his dna and we're going to put him against the thing tell me what happened tonight so you don't understand what a serious charge you think that you're sticking up for somebody but you're sticking up for somebody that doesn't care about you i'm going to jail tonight correct we don't know we have no idea we're investigating this crime the officers began to push harder informing barker that they know he wasn't using a pellet gun he denies it and tries to say it may have been one of his tenants yeah i don't know tell me what happened tonight so we have an idea about what happened i don't know i was in bed when all of a sudden my roommate said there's fights all over the place yeah but you weren't in bed when you were pulled up because you were not you were outside i was in bed in my things and i walked out to have a cigarette diane said you weren't in bed michael said you weren't in bed and i'm sure uh diane michael and jeff yeah i went to i was in bed i got up and i said what's going on and we talked they were all sitting in the living room listen you may pretend you were in bed when after the police ordered you outside that's fine but when when when uh when they showed up to the house when little michael showed up to the house you were outside yeah sitting there having a smoke yeah yep with woody no woody wasn't outside with me i was sitting out there by myself and he told me to hands up i said okay what's going on you told your hands up i'm talking about earlier in the night when i'm talking about when when somebody called the police on you when you came running in your house that doesn't make sense sergeant because no i didn't see the police calling me or anything and i i was went into my house i went to i had a couple of beers showed a couple of beep um pellets and went in the house and i got went to bed that's the last thing i remember until all of a sudden um i saw a lot my roommate said hey there's cops everywhere so what's going on and i went outside to see what was going on almost two that's almost two hours that's almost two hours after somebody shot a gun outside your house well all i know is i was sleeping i don't know you know okay well that's not what other people tell us so again we're gonna have to go because you're not telling us the truth we're gonna have to go with their story okay i mean you know whatever whatever their story is i don't know what this story is all i know is my story and my story is that i went i went home and i went to bed i'm diabetic i took my shot i had a little munchies ate something and passed out and then all of a sudden i hear uh you know my roommate going all the cops are everywhere and i'm going what which roommate uh [ __ ] there's only four of them it was jeff told me he says there's lights everywhere outside and we know that we know that uh diane was screaming at you that this was all because of you come outside we know every we know okay diane's a little loose in the head so let me tell you that honestly i love it daily a little soft though okay so we're going to do the search warrant on your house are we going to find um anything in your house associated with being a prospect and then motorcycle club no nothing in your house as far as what being a prospect in a motorcycle club i'm a prospect you are a prospect yes and what club scurvy few and how many members of this very few well we've got different um abacos affiliated with dallos yes yes well we're affiliated not right you're affiliated with the outlaws yes who's the president in your club man you know something sergeant what do you you know this doesn't matter because you know i i'm i just ride right you know i'm saying i have nothing to do with the clubs you know other than riding you know and um your prospect yeah i'm a prospect and i haven't decided whether i'm going to be a patch holder because i don't i don't like it so there you go so fast so i got two beautiful children i got a 17 year old daughter and i got a four-year-old son hey little you um my daughter stays over um she's got her own apartment now i'm very proud of her she's working at mcdonald's on commercial and my son's there uh three or four nights a week what is your wife live what's that what is your their mom live them well as you see we're kind of we have an issue you know if there's any weapon in that house i don't know about it all i know is about the pellet guns but you weren't sleeping because we know you weren't sleeping yes i was officers sergeant i was actually barker doesn't understand why they're asking questions about his motorcycle group they are irrelevant to the case this happened on personal property and no one else from the club was there barker also takes issue with the claim that he was awake he is very insistent that he was in bed at the time they mentioned and while he is upset he remains firm without losing his temper in bed okay everybody else is a liar and you're telling us the truth i don't know what to tell you i know i was in bed and i got up and then i went back to bed then i got up again and that was the end of it so i mean i don't know what you guys want to do but you know what we want to do okay you know so i'm renting in a house the people i don't really know or whose fault is that not mine you're absolutely right somebody brought the police there tonight now obviously it was you i mean you you are you were standing outside you were firing what you say is a pellet gun somebody called the police that somebody was shooting a gun outside your house there's a bellator that i shot so you obviously weren't sleeping you were outside shooting a pelican no that was earlier before you guys even got there that's the issue was earlier oh yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely yeah but it was it was earlier i mean it was daylight yeah it was getting to be dark out right you're just starting to go to dusk and then after that put it away and went to bed you know had a little quick food and went to bed and laid down in my room i'm just curious what'd you eat what do you eat yeah i'm just curious turkey turkey okay who fixed the turkey diane made a uh 20 pound turkey a couple of days ago so i didn't munch it on that right she's not that loopy at me if she made a 20-pound turkey right well she's a good cook yeah but she's a little loopy okay we're gonna find any narcotics in the house not that i know of and if it is it's not mine where are your hypodermic needles for your diabetes where are they i keep them in my bathroom they're just in your bathroom yes there are no other place in your house i need not got no narcotics in the house if there is it's they're not mine are they only could they be in your room if they're if they're in your room search my room i've got valium in there that i take every now and then there we go prescription yes from my doctor from what's his name is it going to be in a bottle or her name happens to be dr beer isn't that funny mm-hmm yeah they'll be in a bottle okay all right again we're going to do the search warrant we'll come back and talk to you after this earth form then here's the thing you can make this easier on yourself okay you can i i think he could be a witness so i mean there is there is a possibility we know what happened we know who fired the shot i'm serious i think that he could he could be the witness i just we just need you to tell us we know who fired the shot who's that you tell us i don't know if i did i would tell you right now what's this guy's name what's this what's his name woody woody what were you and woody doing in your room he's not in my room what were you doing what are you doing in your room i was doing nothing in my room with him he's never even gone in my room and i told him off limits what were you and what are you doing in your room in my bedroom i'm just telling you what we hey nothing nothing absolutely nothing officer and that for that to come up that that's really [ __ ] now i'm getting twisted did woody come in here to wake you up then no no no nobody came in to wake me up i gotta knock on the doors if there's crops everywhere outside and that's why i got up okay i said what the [ __ ] going on okay that's the end of it are you guys going to keep me here well yeah well we don't know what to do now because see now we see we've got one one side of the story and we were wrong my [ __ ] house and now i'm [ __ ] already said that that's you're the one who's made that decision okay we're trying to i don't want no weapons in my house other than my pelicans there have been weapons in my house but when i was with the clubs okay they left them there but nobody was there nobody was shooting that i know of and there's no weapons there and that's it neighbors clearly heard gunshots not pillow shots well i don't know what they heard because the spanish people across the way are always it's lighting off fireworks and everything else let me ask you a question when you shoot your pellet gun where do you shoot your pellet gun at well by my front porch into uh the three chairs in the front does it leave shell casings on the front porch sometimes you get the pellets yeah do you know what an extracted shell casing looks like from a semi-automatic firearm no handgun no no well i've seen it on tv you know they look like little cups right right you got a little ring around the bottom and then when you flip them over well it doesn't do that okay pellets don't do that any reason why there's shell casings on your front porch they aren't going to be letting barker go anytime soon even though they claim to know who fired the gun that may or may not be true since they do not have to be honest with the suspect barker may very well be guilty but if he isn't he is certainly going to want to do a better job vetting the people he allows to live in his home oh listen we're trying to find out the truth i know i know but i feel i feel like i'm getting well we're trying to figure out what happened the same way somebody shot up winning your daughter at the mcdonald's somebody did a robbery in the mcdonald's somebody shot at somebody you would want us to figure out what happened wouldn't you but i don't know if did anybody shoot at anybody i was just shooting beer cans somebody fired a shot from your patio from your from there and obviously it was a real gun and if it wasn't you we need to know who it was i have no idea because they showed me pictures you showed me pictures i didn't show you pictures a couple of guys showed me pictures and i didn't recognize any of them you didn't recognize any of who the pictures that they showed me that when they you know had me in handcuffs over by my house were you the first one to come out or were you yeah i walked out and i just i was having a cigarette i was wondering what the hell was going on and uh then the guy told me you know said hey put it on the ground with your hands up they were asking you who was still in the house right no the guy just said to me he says get your hands up walk over here get on the ground i'm saying when they were showing you pictures they were asking if those people were still in the house no they just asked me if i knew them if you knew them yeah oh i've seen people i know who they are and i didn't reason okay so again getting back to us investigating a shooting like if it was somebody in your family the truth is going to come out obviously where you're here for a reason police are eyewitnesses there are neighbors that are eyewitnesses i don't know i don't know you don't know because you don't want to cooperate or you don't know because i don't know because i don't know i'd be more than glad i've been cooperating with you i don't have a problem with it well you really haven't been co-operating this because the police have been outside your house for two hours trying to get you to come out and nobody would come out you're you're you're i was i was waiting in bed so i ain't with diane yelling at you to get up no no no so everybody in the house is lying again except for you they're all liars at one point she told me i can honestly say yeah at one point but i was laying down she goes you go out and take care of this i go what the cops are pointing their thingy at the house okay what thing at the house the light in the front window all right that's when i went out to have my cigarette and that's when the guy told me to you know come over with my hands up and lay down on the street which i did all right let me get some gloves i want to call from him lift up your pants give me a look bring it closer am i am i being arrested right now you're in the same predicament you're the same thing as sitting in the cell as you're here oh boy this sucks hey man we we i i this is what i think sergey i i think he's just you know he's trying to attack somebody's but he is trying to protect um that's what i think how long you know him for woody a couple years is he part of the club too independent independent i'm going to go to jail with my kids something stupid this isn't stupid somebody took a shot at a police officer somebody took a shot at a police officer as the police car was pulling up somebody took a shot and listen if something else happened it was a real gunshot if something else happened we need to know i don't know about anybody if somebody took a shot at my whole family's vso something else happened we need to know the officers used the good cop bad cop routine to try to get barker to turn on anyone he might be protecting they keep trying to bring in the motorcycle club angle as if this is some type of organized crime but it isn't likely to be the case [Music] i don't know anything about it that's that's the whole [ __ ] problem you know some people bring [ __ ] into my house i'm renting the house i don't know where anything is but you seem to have a loyalty for woody because he's part of the biker club so you're ready to give up everything for somebody give up what freedom fought for somebody because he's an independent in your biker club ah man you guys i don't deserve this you're right you don't you worked all your life 30 years cutting hair you have people family that's bso family that worked for what they do your family all the family and here we're here as bso as you're trying to solve so see i can't give you the information if i'm not 100 sure what's going on in my house well listen listen you are out front tonight you're obviously out front people saw you out front what happened i was shooting a pellet gun and what happened pelt gun doesn't make a boom what happened i i don't know i you know i tell you honestly about truth i went to bed after that i did i went and i had some turkey then i went to bed and that's it i i didn't hear nothing why are you protecting this guy why are you protecting him are you afraid of him i'm not afraid of anything and i'm not afraid of you guys i mean what are you going to do i mean listen we're not afraid we're not trying to make you afraid of us i didn't do anything wrong i'm doing our job the same way you wouldn't want somebody to protect somebody in your face i didn't do anything wrong and now here i am sitting shackled because i weren't roams out that's the position you want to take with us i don't you know i can't be 100 sure and i can't see what percentage can you be i'm not sure i can't because i don't know what they come and go they come and go they've got keys to the house i'm not home if our investigation which i think it might bring us to the fact that you might be within i don't know maybe the distance between my supervisor and i are standing next to each other when somebody points a gun no i'm not even if i had a gun i wouldn't be that stupid i didn't say that you were stupid all i'm saying is our investigation brings us to that point would that make you an accessory yes or no i don't know what the legal i'm not asking you for a legal opinion i'm asking you if that would make you a [ __ ] accessory to shooting at a cop yes or no i never shot at a coffin i'm asking you a [ __ ] question right now would that make you an accessory to shooting a cop yes or no i don't know you don't know what would you think richard yes i don't think anybody's why would somebody try to shoot at a cop that's what we're trying to we're trying to understand too why don't make sense you guys are here to help us not to hurt us okay what about what do you guys make drinking tonight no i had four beers man i was you drink all that you drink from the morning till night time i do you do okay i know you drink a lot of the day because what do you drink the same i don't know and what whatever i drink because since i'm a little bit retired yes i've had it okay but not today i'm not blamed but i'm not blaming you for that i'm not saying i'm not i'm not holding you up i'm not saying anything bad nobody would shoot at a cop nobody a stupid not even a not even a club member would try to shoot at a cop that that would be that stupid place so was it just a mistake i have no idea no i'm asking a question legitimately but was it was it a mistake was it just happenstance is it a misunderstanding what that a cop got shot at was it a miss i'm asking you i don't know anything about a sharp uh cop getting shot at and god knows i've been nothing but in the family of you guys for a long time and i would never even consider it and i don't know how anybody could consider it i mean let me ask you a question richard again taken away from somebody possibly shooting at a police officer you're not you're not a convicted felon okay so you're illegally allowed to possess a firearm okay by law you're allowed to possess a firearm could somebody have had too much to drink tonight and been shooting into the ground in front of your house with a real gun and now listen look at me this goes to the truth here and like again maybe maybe when the police officers pulled up maybe somebody got scared barker isn't given a chance to adjust to one tone before they switch on him they go from speaking harshly and swearing at him to talking in an almost friendly manner in the space of minutes let me finish what i'm saying let me finish what i'm saying you're legally allowed to possess a firearm let's get back to that neighbors neighbors are out there saying that somebody's shooting into the ground or or whoever in the ground or in the air which is you know obviously it's a misdemeanor we're not talking about anything we're not talking about a felony can my cops of a mistaken possibly that they were being shot at because somebody was shooting in front of your house is there a possibility that that that was the case anything's a possibility okay what's there richard do me a favor listen you seem like a nice guy listen you seem like a nice guy you've worked your whole life you're allowed to legally possess a firearm because you're not a convicted felon okay i know that based on what you're telling me you're not a convicted felon it doesn't matter if you're an outlaw or you're a boy scout if you're not a convicted felon you're illegally allowed to possess a gun in your home as long as you're not concealing it okay it's a misdemeanor to discharge a firearm in public a misdemeanor is there the possibility that my police officers mistake ms still you shooting into the ground or somebody you or him shooting in the ground with a real gun now i'm not talking about training guys we're not talking about guys my guys know the difference between a pellet and a real gun there are shell casings out in front of your house if this is a misunderstanding if this is a misunderstanding we need to know this seems like it's a bad misunderstanding yeah it is it seems like listen it seems like guys are freezing my ass off okay what was the misunderstanding tonight i have no idea but i i i can guesstimate but i want these off and i want to go home we need you to tell us the truth and we need you to spot for that i can't tell you the truth because i didn't see it happen one okay what did you what did you do what happened i didn't hear it i was in bed i told you i was in bed and believe me sergeant i was give me [Music] something i'm freezing um richard getting back to tonight about being possibly a misunderstanding and the fact that you could legally possess a firearm because you're telling me you're not a convicted felon what well you have my record you pulled me okay i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm taking you on face value i'm taking the face out that you work for 30 years cutting hair that you've owned in coral springs you've owned the shop for five years or whatever and i know bs overseas just because i've been with it all my life my brother-in-law is the next chief what what happened tonight i have can i tell you something i don't know there was a weapon in my house at one time i said everybody the person and i'm not going to mention anything to get rid of it i don't want it here is that person here tonight is there something wrong with that guy does he have some mental illness is he i don't know i don't know i don't talk to them i just you can give me 75 bucks a week you know help me out so this is some guy that you know for a while i know him for a while um but just in a social atmosphere what was the last time you saw a gun in your house from him oh just told me he had one i didn't know anything about it does he have any hard feelings towards police officers i have no idea he's not my buddy well now we're talking about who we do he's just just a guy just a guy i talked to you know when i went out of the room because he had no place to go that's one of his bikes out front yeah do you see one of these cops can run see if they can get him up a cup of coffee somewhere or something like that listen this this is the problem this is the problem the problem is is that now my partner's gone the problem is is that you lied to both of us using the coffee is an excuse parker is left alone with the officer who is pretending to be on his side some people respond better to a positive approach while others reveal more information if they are nervous or upset figuring out which category barker falls into will help him determine the best way to continue questioning him from the beginning all right about what just about not knowing about a firearm at all let me finish let me finish all right the problem is you lied to us at the beginning i want to be able to go in front of my boss and say okay listen richard is just possibly a witness to this whole thing and there was no witness to it listen that he told me the truth from the beginning richard i need you to start from the beginning this guy will be out of your house listen this guy will be out of your house and i don't know what his intention was tonight but obviously you you saw a gun oh no no now all of our mates are probably going to be out of the house so now now i'm gonna be broke i'm sure jeff and them are cleaning out my house right now i'm not they're not allowed in your house we have police officers on each side of your house we're police officers you saw the house we told you we're gonna do a search warrant on your house i'm i wasn't i don't i don't have to lie to you i don't have to and there's no reason there's nobody's going to be letting your house they're still sitting outside here we're not letting them out oh okay what about jeff is he in the house no jeff is here oh josh here too yeah jeff with the tattoo the fire tattoo yeah yeah he's here with the crew cut why did you guys arrest everybody in the house obviously when we were on the impression that whoever whoever fired the shot was because they weren't coming out was holding everybody in the house hostage so when we what we do is listen what we do is we have to take everybody in the briefing we need to talk to them about what happened mm-hmm yep you got to do me a favor so we could get past all this stuff i don't think you were trying to hurt a police officer no obviously with family as police officers what happened tonight let's start from million please tell me what happened tonight i'm going to jail right you are not definitely going to jail i need to know your side of the story i will only charge you with what you did do you understand i will not charge you for something you didn't do what happened tonight you know sergeant i like you and you know something i don't want to go to jail i don't because i don't i don't deserve to go to jail i don't want you to go to jail i'm telling you that's why i'm spending so much time here i don't want you to go to jail for something you didn't do you had a nine millimeter beretta who did he did yeah what what bright and nine millimeter blue stainless stainless okay and what happened uh i don't know i know we had one you just guys are stolen at you because i didn't hear it go off but um i'm pretty sure i know where he hides it where did he hide it um he told me put it up in the attic okay tell me i appreciate you being honest but from the beginning you were were you outside shooting a bb gun tonight yes so tell me from when you said after that i went to bed from when michael listen from one michael that's the son of the lady that rents you out from when he pulled up to your house with the mom you guys were arguing about rent correct well no that was early i understand but from that point on tell me what happened i don't know i went and got worked on motorcycles today and where do you do that uh it was uh at um 35th street and sixth i just just give me one one second something um 35th and 6th yeah a little bit east february where is that that's 35th and 6th that's over um what kind of are they working on harley's winner yeah who owns that shop one of the states all right so you're over there working on bikes well you do a lot of wrenching or yeah oil changes so oil changes and stuff yeah you tell my hands are all cut up all right so you come home now it's getting darker i'm going to show you sergeant right now and ruben how's it moving came home a couple of dudes added a little bit of turkey went outside shot some beer cans went in had a little bit more turkey and went to bed okay and then the next thing i get calls i get knocked on the door all the cops are all over the place i don't know what those like okay the people across the street are always fighting on fireworks and every other goddamn thing you know so i'm going oh okay what's going on that's when i came out had a cigarette the next thing i know okay when did you see him with the firearm today what's that when did you see him i didn't see him with a firearm today when did you see him with the firearm i didn't see him with it today when did you see him with it when was the last time you saw him with it about three weeks ago okay how do you know he had it today i don't know if he heard it today he told me he said he put it in the he said that he was going to put it in the attic and i said get the [ __ ] out of my house when was that when i first saw that he had it barker finally says something the officer wants to hear although he isn't very clear on the details and it is difficult to tell if he is misunderstanding on purpose there is the possibility he is lying because he thinks it will get him out of jail faster three weeks ago so what makes you believe you put in the attic tonight i have no idea i have no idea you can go check you guys find it take it i don't want it in my house i don't want the pellet guns in my house you can have them all if in fact that's where we put it he told me what did you guys discuss while the police were outside your house you and woody nothing sergeant moon nothing nothing you know i was having you know half asleep one eye open did you hear what you sounded like gunshots no i didn't hear any shots i was in my bedroom the tv was on i was laying down i was half asleep i didn't hear anything all right give me a couple minutes off being back let's see about getting a cup of coffee what about getting me out of here me see what we could do again we're working on a cup of coffee some police officers went up to go get it why can't i just go home you charge me with a misdemeanor i don't care charge me with whatever i didn't i didn't kill any i didn't try to kill anybody i didn't try to hurt nobody i just want to go home man i don't gilbert and i got my insulin what time is it already it is 1 39 yeah i got to have my insulin in the morning you guys can keep me here all night i'll be sick as a dog okay well we're going to let you go home but we can't let you go home until we do the search warrant on your house we're going to just write up a search warrant you're going to rip apart my house well first place we're going to look is the attic where you told me to look obviously take me there take me there i know where he put it i'll give it to you where did he put it yeah i told him to get rid of it tonight he told me no two weeks ago so how do we know what's up there because that's the only place i would think you would put it because i didn't see it you know and around so you're gonna let me go man are you gonna let me go take me home i'll do whatever i can to help you guys out all right just let me get the [ __ ] out of here because i'm not feeling good and i'm getting stressed out to the tip and i didn't do anything wrong did you take the pelotons i'll give you the pellets i'll give you every [ __ ] thing i don't want it i don't want i don't want no guns in my house coffee should be here in a few minutes okay thanks man just take me home you can drive i'll go with you guys i'm gonna handcuff me i know but because listen you have to understand because he lives there he lives there he's a resident you can't give me permission to search something for him that's why we need to get a judge to sign a warrant so that's what's going to take a little while [ __ ] so what i rent the [ __ ] house out and i'm [ __ ] sitting here like this i understand but that's that's that's what happens when you shoot something that looks realistic in front of your house a bb gun with a laser neighbors see you and then all of a sudden a real gunshot goes off that's what happens right i mean can't you see can you see where you have to take some responsibility for this you know go to jail you don't [ __ ] with it nobody's saying you're going to jail right this second yeah i'm sure you guys are holding me this [ __ ] long you're gonna [ __ ] put me in jail i already told you that if you did not fire the shot tonight there's a good chance that you're not going to jail we are investigating this and i have to protect when you're in this facility you have to be you saw how you were handcuffed right you have to be you have to be shackled to the floor so you don't run out of this building while we're investigating this you understand i didn't shoot shot a pellet gun tonight that's what i was sure okay so somebody kind of mistaken that as being a rail gun correct i guess yeah okay that's why i don't want him in my house anymore i don't want it i don't want it i don't want it i'm sitting here i'm sick to my stomach i'm [ __ ] should be home in bed i got my diabetes to worry about and this is stretching the [ __ ] out of me because i rent [ __ ] rooms that's not i mean i could loosen it if you want me to listen what are you going to lose where am i going [ __ ] this is a big mistake on my part my life obviously i mean i was desperate for money and i rented out [ __ ] because i couldn't support the house without renting i'm disabled like my hands get numb my feet get numb i can't do my job anymore let me ask you another question would you be interested in do you do you have any information about any of the motorcycle clubs that we did possibly you could possibly make some money i don't want to make any money when you're off duty i'll give me a call you got my cell phone i'll meet you let me get the [ __ ] out of here tonight that's fair no tape the officer tries to tell barker that it isn't guaranteed that he is going to jail but barker doesn't believe him and he shouldn't if he wants to do anything to help himself he needs to stop talking and get a lawyer nothing he has said has done him any good so far if anything he has made the police even more suspicious am i talking like a gentleman yeah i understand sergeant but i'm not stupid either and i didn't do any criminal act tonight so why i'm here is beyond me the criminal act i did was renting right but you can understand why people mistakenly thought you were shooting ate oh i'm shooting i wish you yeah i'm going to be that stupid go out and go yeah i'm shooting at a cop tonight i'm not saying you did and what i'm saying is that you are out front of your house shooting a pellet gun yes the pellet resembles what it resembles at 45 correct yeah 40. okay 40 45 i mean yeah it's good it sounds like it goes pop up pop okay so it's co2 some people could have mistaken it for being real and the next thing you know police officers being shot at from the front of your house i don't think any police officer was ever shot at you know and if if no there are there are new shell casings out in front of your home sir which means listen for shell casings or brass brass doesn't stay you know you understand how brass works right the tarnish is very fast so if it was shot yesterday it wouldn't it wouldn't look clean today sergeant enough said you know okay something happened i'm i wasn't witness to it and here i am okay that's that's you know pretty much bottom line on this night i don't like them i like my sporty it's quick it's easy one year 0.7 so it's rubber mounted yeah 1200 yeah 1200 sns and what does this guy have i think he has a diner that's what i have i'm the owner of the home i can give you permission to go in no no not because because of the fact that you rent to him he's considered a legal resident of your home and he has expectation of privacy yes or his rights to that to that house in fact you couldn't even throw him out tonight if you wanted to without legally evicting him so if he wants to let's say he doesn't get arrested why is jeff and diane still here why haven't i been able to go home we just let them go home but they're not allowed to go back to your house they're not allowed to go in your house we have a police officer sitting in the backyard and a police officer sitting in the front yard nobody why am i not allowed to go get out and not go back to my house because you were the one who was shooting the bb gun out in front of your house which people believe to be a real gun why you're hence why you're here i'm getting charged with something tonight you may or may not be charged with something i am telling you the truth do you understand that if i lie to you i don't want you to learn listen listen if i lie to you then when i deal with you on another day which i'm sure i am i'm a detective i'm on uniform tonight because i worked at far detail i was working and i was working in a restaurant detail tonight i am a detective if i lie to you when i want your help on something else are you going to tell me the truth are you going to trust me or you're not going to trust me so what i am telling you is is that if you tell me the truth about what happened i'm not going to be able to show my [ __ ] face around town for a while over this [ __ ] issue no you're not because you're not you're you don't understand you are not the one who gave us the information the people outside that went home that told us the truth about what happened they were like oh you're still here so nobody's going to think that you gave us any information because you're still here with him and obviously we want your help with well i want your help with the most second game so if i throw you out there how are you going to help me with the motorcycle things correct well if you kick me in here i can help you is that what you're saying no what i'm saying if i throw you if i if i throw say that you that you helped me with this and i let everybody know that you helped me with this and it wasn't the other people how are you gonna be able to help me with the motorcycle you want me a dead man the rules regarding searching a home have to be explained to barker but most people would be just as confused on this point it is natural to assume that as the homeowner he would be able to override anyone else and give police the permission to do a search the truth is that each adult has their own individual right to privacy and the process must be repeated for each one this works out great if you're a resident but not so much if you're the homeowner the officer then proceeds to tell barker that he is being honest with him because he may want to use barker in the future but that is hardly reassuring because the police have no obligation of honesty with their informants either walking no i don't want that man walking i didn't do anything wrong tonight tell me what happened tonight i told you what happened i went out i had [ __ ] turkey i [ __ ] shot the pelican a couple of times i went in i had a little bit more time somebody fires a real gun it's loud enough to shake the house especially a nine millimeter is it loud enough to rock that i was [ __ ] i passed out man i was i had you know four or five beers today what were you talking about in front of your house what were you and him talking about in front of your house who you and woody i wasn't talking about nothing when when mike pulled up with his mom you tore out front of the house that was earlier today in the the first thing this morning it was early in the morning and i said you know gonna start getting rent together man you know otherwise you're gonna leave who are we telling that to woody okay call him get his rent together and i told his mom i said you know you owe money too he says you know you can't just leech off me i'm paying for everything and everybody's sitting here squatting not that i was mad at him or anything like that because i feel for people but oh oh where was woody tonight when you went in your room he i imagine he was in the living room because when you go to my room you can't even see him delivering me so i imagine he was in there with whoever i didn't see diane i didn't see jeff all i got is a knock on my bill but the props are everywhere i see what how is that you know let me go see where your coffee is [Music] oh man i'm going to jail oh no sugar for me oh you can't have sugar okay i forgot which one that was if you need sugar you don't that's okay i'll drink it thank you no problem so now what are you guys doing going from room to room to room to room to room to bounce off this [ __ ] oh no don't even bounce over you know what what you think happened what didn't happen i mean you know you watch so much tv i know right now you watch so much tv what's gonna matter is when we do the search warrant on your house and we find whatever we find in the house and then what we do is then we do everything's done in a lab did you ever touch that gun yes you did touch chicken when was the last time you touched that gun about a week ago a week and it only gets the [ __ ] out he had it three weeks ago all right let me next question again you're allowed to touch a gun you're allowed to touch a gun because you're not a convicted felon and again i haven't checked but you're so i'll be here for two days you know you have to be every two days listen listen to me you watch again i know where the [ __ ] gun is i know where the [ __ ] thing is i did touch it a couple of uh about a week ago because i i thought it was cool and i told him guns i know you like otherwise you wouldn't be playing with pelicans in front of your house i played with daisy when i was a kid so tonight so where is the gun i told you where it was i think it's in the way you're telling me but you're telling us you're going you're telling me something like you i know where it is i know where it why do you is him to put it there because i didn't want it around the [ __ ] house i got a four-year-old son that comes into the house and i have a 17-year-old daughter i agree i didn't need it hanging around right under the couch or something i said get [ __ ] pulled up barker keeps changing his story which only serves to make him appear guilty he bounces back and forth on where the gun is and if he has seen it or not he might think he is being smart by giving himself room to backtrack depending on what other information they find but this decision rarely works out well for a suspect he's as dumb as a box of rocks you understand that right is he gonna try to protect you or is he gonna was he gonna throw this on you whatever i'm asking you i don't know what to do what do i know i don't know don't protect himself most people do whatever happens like an honor among these there's no thieves here do you understand what i mean it's the same you know something sergeant you're very intelligent and if i respect that in you but this was nothing and it's becoming a major [ __ ] crime issue and it was nothing whatever happened happened you saw it let me ask questions you saw the equipment we had out there tonight yeah you saw a swat team out there somebody's going to have to pay for that i said you saw helicopters yeah and i've seen them many times over that area okay but you saw many people out there tonight so this wasn't something small in its appearance i think it was overreaction to whatever happened because i did not hear the gun go off okay did you see him with the gun tonight what this is important did you see him with the gun today no no i don't see him with it is his fingerprints gonna be on that gun i don't know how do you not know i don't know maybe they are because he holds it too you know i mean it's his gun he holds it too well it's his gun so i'm sure that they probably are i mean nobody wiped it now i don't think anybody would wipe it down for any particular reason you know but yours are going to be on it um i think they may be yeah i mean i've touched it yes absolutely um who was the last person such a you had i don't know i touched it about a week and a half ago a week ago he took it out from upstairs in the attic and looked at it what's that you took it no he had it down when he first got it i looked at it where did he get it from i have no idea and i'm getting tired i know you're getting tired i'm getting tired i believe i've been working since six o'clock this morning this is just ridiculous already to to to this nobody's he's a convicted felon it's not ridiculous he can't possess a gun you can he's a convicted felon so it's not a ridiculous thing right yeah but it's ridiculous for me to be here like this for nothing and this for nothing then if you guys this is going to get all around the [ __ ] motorcycle clubs what's going on what happened here tonight and then i'm going to have a problem what is it scurvies i never even heard of him is it not one of the scourge has been around 20 years family club what family though is he's not bought us told you he's independent he flies but he writes his own colors you know how long do you have to be a prospect for before your you become a member 90 days so you only been doing this for 90 days i was with the states for a few years you know who they are i just came back for bike week that's alright i'll start everybody up there i'm supposed to be going to laconia but it doesn't look like uh with this [ __ ] around my leg i'm not going real soon what are you gonna do you're going to go over to my house i told you i think that's what it is yeah that's the first place okay look you get it and and [ __ ] are you going to release me i'm going to talk about what we're going to do i told you i told you that talk to me sergeant here are you going to release me tonight well i need to know that you're not involved in this and you're not you're not really helping me you've given me like the roundabout like 10 times i've told you the same thing 10 times because it's the truth because you told me there was never no guns in your house then you told me there was a gun in your house and then you told me well that the guns i just i didn't think it mattered because i wasn't sure we were investigating the shooting of a gun and you didn't think that was important to tell us about the gun in your house come on you said i was intelligent [ __ ] man i rent the [ __ ] room out and i'm getting [ __ ] the kick in the ass listen did i when you said you touched a gun that i get all crazy oh i'm charging you i'm doing it i'm i'm still acting the same way this is still so i gotta wait till they test the gun and do this and i'm gonna get printed and all that [ __ ] tonight i'm sure you've been arrested we already have your friends already so i gotta wait till that gun gets tested and all that [ __ ] before i get ready we need to we need to wait until we finish our investigation before you get out oh of here could be tomorrow afternoon you need to wait till we finish our investigation let's see what knucklehead has to say you never know me he might be a stand-up gun i have no intention of telling barker if or when he will be released it is in their best interest to keep him uncomfortable and concerned he might be stuck there for a long time if he has a set time he would most likely be able to make the decision to wait it out barker already suspects he won't be going anywhere anytime soon based on how long they have already kept him as well as how long a thorough search of his house could take i'm sure he'll roll if you push him hard enough yeah he'll roll on me try to [ __ ] blame me that's the type of good guy he is or whatever i figure i'm not getting out of here for a day or two [ __ ] i'll be sick as a dog when i get out of here with my diabetes when is the next shot there in the morning yep you know well let's shoot i'm trying to something we'll do something if you need to go to the hospital we'll take it out oh yeah then i got to pay that bill too no i'm out of here we'll see what happens no i'm in police i said and not if you're a policeman am i arrested yet [Music] richard hey where's the uh where's the hole for the attic in your house ah i gotta take a piss can i get up yeah what is it your room no no no where are they let me talk to them and i'll walk them through it well they're not there yet i've got a funny feeling out of here oh i don't know i told you i can't promise you i don't want to lie to you but let me bless your leg up let me [ __ ] this up because i know you guys because i got bullets in my [ __ ] drawer in my bedroom too i took it away from him okay we'll talk to you about it this week i don't want you to talk in front of anybody's voice i know your bullets in your draw what about wire balls when you draw what because i took them away from him why do you take the bullets i don't want i didn't want him in my [ __ ] house to tell you the truth you don't want the bolts hitting us i didn't want him to have him in my house he was running through the is [Music] in no no sir okay this time i don't put that [ __ ] away i don't want to [ __ ] see it i'm going to secure it i don't know nothing about it i got a box of bullets i took them away from them richard he he his story is is that he's not saying that you shot at the top but he's saying he's not saying you shot at the cop but he's saying that you shot three times into the ground tonight now listen to me it's a misdemeanor you'll shoot a gun if you did and that's the truth then you did if your prints and dna are going to be on it and obviously there's a couple of things we're going to we have to do you don't get no cold or anything do you no no no just smokers cough okay man i got four kids so i don't want to you know no smokers all right obviously your dna and fingerprints are going to be on the gun he may have he may have been the one who took the shot at the cop i don't know if you just shot into the ground what's that if you shot into the ground if i shot it into the ground if you did shoot it tonight right in the ground right it's a misdemeanor charge it's not a felony okay i shot it into the ground tonight let me get the [ __ ] out of here okay i shot it in the ground what did he say three times okay i shot it into the ground two times i want to go home barker has hit the point where he will say anything to be allowed to leave this is counterproductive because his statements become even less reliable as evidence dodge me with a misdemeanor no i want to know the truth bud i shot it into the ground three times why did you shoot it into the ground i just shot it into the ground three times just for the hell of it where did you get the gun from what's that where did you get the gun from i don't know where the gun came from what do you mean you don't know where the gun came from i don't know where it came from could we thought can we stop from the beginning no because you know something i just want to go home now but i don't listen to this you're not going to let me go so i mean you want me to tell you what you want to hear i don't know i want you to tell me the truth i'm telling you the truth i shot it in the ground three times start from the beginning and tell me what happened so i could see if you're telling me the truth i shot him to the ground three times so i can go home no not so you can go home i'm a smoker and i'm having a nicotine attack here richard did you shoot at a police officer tonight no absolutely not would you shoot at a police officer never in my life could you've done something stupid tonight shooting out a police officer no could you have done something stupid tonight what do you mean by stupid like firing a gun not at a range yeah i shot it and took around three times you want you want that you can have that i don't want i don't want the truth i gotta raise this is gonna do me a lot of good for being an idiot okay [ __ ] exhausted i'm exhausted too bud you're going home tonight i don't think you're gonna let me go home listen where did the gun come from is it his gun your gun somebody else's gun where did the gun come from i don't know where the [ __ ] gun came from do you want to keep no how did it come into your possession what's that how did the gun come into your possession oh god i mean what's his name what's his real name larry larry he gave you the gun didn't give it to me you took it from him did you take it from him tonight or did you take it from him another day no i don't think what made you bring it outside today i don't know who wrote it out what i don't know it was out on my front thing and i just checked it it was had one in the [ __ ] and i pulled the trigger down on the ground and then i [ __ ] put it back away where did you put it up in the attic and that's where it is right now you know something i'm [ __ ] scared shitless right now because i don't want to go [ __ ] away for life for something stupid you know something [ __ ] boom and i have the [ __ ] all everything in my house take it all i this is it's not me is there any other guns in your house no just any other magazines any any bullets they're all in a case excuse me hey listen we're going to step out for a few minutes okay all right i just wanted to let you know all right hey um take me over there i'll get you everything you want then you don't have to rip apart my [ __ ] house you can keep me handcuffed i'll show you exactly where it is where i hid everything because i didn't want no [ __ ] guns in my house and that was stupid that was stupid stupid stupid okay so now we're on the same page here now so charge me with whatever you want to judge me what's the truth is that the truth because that's the truth that's the [ __ ] truth sorry um i should put it three times why what why because i never heard a gun like that before you never heard of them like that no not you know you didn't think your neighbors were going to call the police um what they do over there all the time no i mean they got [ __ ] drug dealers over there all the time they get [ __ ] you don't know what goes on on that street and i can help you with that okay did he ever touch the gun yes when when he first brought it over okay did he touch it today no i did you did how did he make it outside what's that i guess he it was outside when i saw it on the on on the on my by my computer and it's in a black case and i opened it up and there it was who was it outside your house or inside the house just by your computer and where is that what room is on him front room as soon as you walk in the front door it was in a black case okay where are we going barker is almost pleading for the police to take him home where he will show them where the gun supposedly is but that isn't how this works he is going to be kept there and their search will locate the gun without his help he cannot even say how the gun made it into his possession so the odds are that he is still lying but if you would have told us the truth from the beginning this one we wouldn't have been here we wouldn't have been here all this time because i don't want anybody to get in trouble well you don't want yourself to get in trouble is what you mean anybody but i'm not lying for myself sergeant who are you lying for why no you want to protect your family you line and protect everybody i want to protect my family right exactly okay everybody everybody does that yeah okay so you wore me down you got me i shot it into the ground three times put it away look up in the attic and say goodbye i don't want to see it again okay now just like again you know i know it's as simple as if you think it's simple for you just to say that but again i need to know myself that we're not making where we're not putting words in your mouth i just need to know from the beginning again let's just go through a quick and then we'll be done yeah and then you're going to charge me and then i'm going to jail i'm going downtown tonight let's let's just start with the truth first i saw the case it opened up what time was this about i have no idea it was just light out it was dark it was and then i went what were you wearing that's what you see okay and then i put the [ __ ] away said [ __ ] this [ __ ] i want it out of my house i threw it up in the attic and i said tomorrow's gonna get rid of it and that's that anyone in your room yeah i went to bed well i had some turkey first what did larry say to you did anybody talk to you about it no no not until i got a knock on my window let me help him do a cops are everywhere what's going on he said i don't know i walked out that's that you know something stupid child [ __ ] 57 year old man acting like a [ __ ] idiot like a baby yeah like a baby tell the judge that huh how many years am i going bye bye for shooting a gun in the [ __ ] ground anything else do you know anything that could help yourself at all anything about any legal act any other guns can you get us any gun can you get me any guns any illegal guns i can't get them but i know people that do where they get them from i'm not talking right now man let me out of here where are these people getting these guns from i'm not asking you this guy i don't have any idea where it came from is it going to be reported stolen i don't know is there a possibility could be how long has it been in your house i told you about three weeks about three weeks yeah i told you that and you saw larry said his name larry yeah you saw larry with that gun yeah he brought it into the house he brought it out and that's when i [ __ ] took it away from me because i don't want the [ __ ] and then then stupid me i saw it sitting there is it i mean i'd be more than glad to help you all right because i don't like the [ __ ] either all right but you can't [ __ ] keep me in here because if you do it's going to [ __ ] go like this and then i'm not going to be able to help you is the scurpies at uncle parking or what are they are they uh they're primarily in oakland park the people that are knocking yeah yeah um you ever hanging out a boar's nest or anything like that no bahamas who hangs out at a boar's nest i've got a couple of guys i can help you up with but you got to get me the [ __ ] out of here i'm telling you right now this is going to snowball down to that i won't be able to help you sergeant without risking my life and one more question is that a sunset anarchy tattoo no that's the grim reaper the level of desperation is intensified and barker is trying to make the case that his ability to be used as an informant will be compromised if they continue to detain him he isn't a big enough fish for them to care and if he is ever used in the future it will be on their terms not his he has no bargaining power here and doesn't even realize it when did he get that i want to make sure it wasn't because of the tv show five years ago all right let me go see what we can do get me the [ __ ] out of here and guess what i promise you i got some [ __ ] i can get okay but i can't do anything but more important [ __ ] than what you're doing right here okay you know i'm telling you the god's honest truth this is stupid and i mean i know it's not in your eyes but this is silly i mean okay i deserve a [ __ ] spanking listen well i wasn't there when when that happened i wasn't able to do this i was in deerfield like i don't based on what other people are saying oh i know people what but you know something what's happening now is you're going to lose a good thing well you're gonna lose it because of this because it's gonna start snowballing down my ass is there any way possible that one of the rounds fired could have hit one of the houses or a car or something so there's no way that any of those rounds that you fired they're they're all in the ground um there's not going to be it you know nobody's reporting that their house was hit went around no not tonight no it was straight down because you understand how right how how ballistics work there's rifling and what happens is is that when a bullet comes out of it out of a gun and leaves a certain marble i'm just trying to just trying to fit just trying to figure this out at least certain marks on a bullet it's like fingerprints okay whatever i'm i'm asking you is there any way is there any going to be is any neighbors going to find anything into their house their car or anything like that tonight no no way okay he he's saying that he witnessed you do it now not shoot at the police officer he's saying he witnessed you shoot the gun he went in and got he said he went and got a beer where was he when all this was happening i have no clue you know it's on the by the computer that's all i know who was by the computer the i told you the um case what kind of case is it looks like a like a camera case i guess plastic case is it meant for a gun or not meant for a gun i don't know what's inside of is it what's in inside made out of that was uh uh phone number phone is it what's like this stuff yeah yeah kind of like that how far did you put it in the attic where in the attic did you put it i just shoved it down so it's gonna be far into the attic um i don't remember i just shoved it i went to bed that's it okay you know you guys are building a case it sounds like against me here and i'm getting [ __ ] really nervous about something that was so silly there's no rounds in anybody's houses there's no guns is no and here i am getting ready to go downtown i'm freezing my ass off and i'm going to freeze my ass off down there i gave you the blanket man thank you authorizing us to do a search warrant on house when we're done with the search warrant and depending upon what we find then we're going to talk about it what if we find a dead body in your house what if we find a ton of narcotics in your house what if we find you're going to go search my entire home we're gonna search your house we have to find we have to look for a firearm i mean we don't you know told you where it is i know it's up there that's all that's in the house even if there is a gun exactly where barker says the police will still do a search of the entire house oh god help me it's not going to be cool yes i don't like the way this is going right now i went the [ __ ] house out the [ __ ] and i get to [ __ ] get killed for it you're the one that fired the ground fired the gun and that's what brought the police there correct correct correct i'll give you all your information so i won't even have a legal defense right now anymore you guys want to put heavy charges against me you're not trying to press every charges against you we're trying to just find out the truth it's nothing it's a stupid stupid thing to do and i thank god that if you guys get take every [ __ ] thing out of that hell take all the [ __ ] bullets take the guns i don't want to see how many bullets are going to be in your house i don't know it was a box of them where did the box of bullets come from i'm not saying anything i'm just looking so is his fingerprints gonna be on any of that stuff it could be very well could be yeah sure good thing why not going to be on there definitely because i took them away well you would alright are you guys going to be on the bullets as well what's that you're going to be on yours principally in the bullets as well i took everything away and i put it up in the attic you know so so you guys want to charge me with [ __ ] felony i don't know what you guys are planning on doing i'm planning on finding out the truth i told you the truth three bullets in the ground nobody hit nobody nobody pointed a gun at a cop didn't you see him do you see police come down the block no i was in bed already no though please comment down your block at some point i was in bed already sergeant i swear to god to you i was a bad whatever you guys want to do with me is now it's in your hands i just think this is like i feel like i'm going to get the [ __ ] ramrod up my ass for a little stupid thing could there be another gun in your house besides that gun not that i know of it's the only one i know of that was in there and i threw it in the attic you guys can take it i don't even want to look at the [ __ ] thing ever again well it's not yours then obviously we can take it take it take it this is i can't believe i'm here i can't believe it because i'm an idiot playing scoop what no go ahead hit me in the back of the head idiots well we're gonna try to make the search as quick as possible all right what's that we're gonna try to make this search as quick as possible are they hit by any chance did they get the warrant yet nope not yet but it should be very soon hey and well going to your house now so we'll talk to you in a couple of minutes but my question to you is and i need to know the truth was when you fired that gun was michael outside the first for from the truth not that i remember sir i don't remember i i think i was pretty much by myself doing something stupid and then i put it back up in the attic and that was it okay all right if you want to find out where it is so you can guys can go there and also what we want to do is want to get into that okay where the toilet is if you if you go into the house for when you open this room is the uh is the entrance in the laundry room no no it's if you make a left when you go in the house you'll see a bathroom just before the bathroom is a hatch okay it's right there how do you get up there chair um yeah so i'm sure there's a little step stool out front if you want to use that hey can you shut the ac off in here it's freezing i'll try hey wayne it was nice seeing you again nothing is going to be done with parker until the search is complete they only want to have to fill out the paperwork once and it is easier to charge him with everything at once if multiple crimes are discovered try to bother man i just take a whiz if it's okay [Music] right now [Music] what's your middle name paul social only been here in florida since the uh 80s i guess about 25 years or so well that's probably a little bit more than that 30 years yeah i'd say three years uh you got tattoos what tattoo on that just the one arm yeah no other ones chest back so your left arm right leg yeah right ankle how tall are you five nine how much away 160. colorize green i guess hazel whatever normally keep your hair about that length yeah you work anywhere i'm um disabled all right you were worried you were wearing that earlier tonight this is my night clothes take the yellow one blank it off real quick just stand up the best you can again [Music] um stories aren't driving so i just want you to be honest we're gonna come back in and talk to you in a second let me see your hands real quick don't otherwise i'm gonna come back and talk to you just there's a couple things that's really pain uh hanging out aren't making sense you know i didn't talk initially so the same guys i talked to and then come back to pianist though all right i know it seems like you're being honest but there's like a kind of a void that we're trying to fill the gap in um to determine because honestly i think larry fired a shot from the gun also um could he have sarge sarge by the way said he uh he had a lead he had to go somewhere else we had another uh happened um but he said i guess you were talking to him and he said he had to leave so sorry um hey what's your phone number real quick uh i don't have my phone with me but nine five four okay 803 yeah nine six two two okay um did larry fire around after he did you hear another one no i i fired two rounds into the ground okay i never shot a gun like that before and i just wanted to see what it was like and that's fine no cops were around then but at some point after that larry picked up the gun fired and we're trying to establish what his motive was he was trying to hit one of us i don't know that's that's why that's right if i swear to god i want after i did that i went right into the bed and that was did you hear another shot after that are you ready or anything which one's your favorite i can't hear out on my left ear which one's your bedroom when you go in when you're going the one by the bathroom to the left to the left okay so your face in the yeah well you can't hear about the other one yeah i can hear this one but if i'm laying like this well and you obviously know what a gun sounds like i mean you fired it so you know the same thing well um and i'm not trying to get you to you know tell me anything i don't already know but by you not being 100 honest it kind of makes i'm being 100 honest with you i told you what i did and i wasn't trying to shoot somebody i wasn't trying to hurt nobody but larry did i don't know i don't know how you can see him i'm telling you but after you shot what did you do with the gun i'd put it away put it work up on the item how'd you put it now what's that on a stool i still from the kitchen white one the white one yeah then i went to bed so that leaves me i mean nobody was designing it was a stupid stupid thing and i understand but we're trying to verify that by you by by you saying hey i fired and put the gun away it makes me think maybe you were the one that shot at the deputy the officer is trying to placate barker enough that he will want to talk but not just say anything he thinks they want to hear it is doubtful that it will work because barker sounds pretty done with the whole situation well that's that's what i'm trying to say and we're trying to get the state of mind of either oh listen to me we're trying to get the state of mind either you or larry what you were thinking when that gun was raised and pointed and fired at the car if i was screwing around hey i didn't realize the car was coming i didn't realize there was a cop there or hey there was a cop there and i wanted to take them out you know what i mean you don't strike me as that kind of guy no so that's why it's one of the two but i'm trying to figure which of the two well nobody as far as i i know i would never especially a sheriff's and when i went to ragdoll and talked to mike he said the same thing it was not those guys that live up there i said yeah uh richard he goes richie zohan richie i said yeah and he goes no so that's why i'm trying to not like that officer i know something this is horrible well it is absolutely but we need to figure out what your intents were you both you and larry i had no intent other than just seeing what it sounded like to shoot a gun you've never shot a gun right in the rifle but never fair enough but you know and now i'm you know i'm gonna have a lot of problems because you went up there and you talked to mike and you talked to this one and that one well initially initially when nobody would come out of the house we only did that to try to establish hey who are these guys what's their state of mind mike's like no they're good guys yeah they seem like good guys and he said ah they wouldn't fire any shots somebody in the house did and i wasn't there when it happened so i didn't know who it was um and so initially we go to try to get as much info as we can about you about larry about who might stay at the house what kind of guys you are if you're not carrying weapons that kind of thing so you're saying it's all kinds of problems it could have ended all of that but you guys coming out right away when we called you out on the bullhorn well if you get sick i'll get your garbage can or something um but you understand that that's what we're trying to stop and you seem like an okay guy there's no intentions here you know i'm telling you stupid foolishness shooting a gun into the ground and that's the end of it officer nobody was but somebody was seen pointing and shooting it larry was seen i should say by two deputies who are next door to your house pointing the gun and shooting it at the third deputy as you drove by the house in addition witnesses [Music] okay richard i'm detective mulan good morning good morning man i know it's been a long day it's been a long day for all of us um i've actually been working sorry about that all right uh i've actually been working this case with these guys i know you haven't seen me you probably seen me walk by a few times um basically um [Music] i have some things i want to share with you but uh you know based on what we did in our investigation and what we found out but i want to get your consent to get your dna just so we can compare it to evidence that we have on scene okay would you consent to provide your dna i know you've already admitted to firing three shots okay there's a fourth shot that was [ __ ] they've come to take barker's dna knowing that there is no way he would refuse at this point they make it sound like they will get results within a few hours but again they are not obligated to be truthful tired right that's what i've been told and i don't listen there's a fourth shot that's been fired and i want you to think of this while i go through this packet and we go and get your dna right now you're looking at a misdemeanor charge for discharging a firearm in public basically possibly get you out of here with a citation okay so you know because you just can't in a neighborhood like that you can't be shooting your [ __ ] gun now you guys are drunk and you guys are [ __ ] doing stupid [ __ ] that's okay um we've talked to witnesses we've talked to parties in your house and we've talked to um larry okay and he's pretty much came was forthcoming with us right okay now we it's your firearm you're responsible for it okay we need you to be completely honest about that fourth shot if not if not if we can prove otherwise which it's a good likelihood that we will be able to you could be charged with more charges for hiding information from us right i understand that you understand that yes sir so we need to find out how that fourth shot was fired and i'd love to tell you yeah well you better start thinking very quickly um because that's gonna ultimately decide what we're gonna do here because we can prove other things we can prove otherwise okay so don't i don't i don't want you to be scared of larry or whatever he he came he was honest with us i guess the fourth round he shot the fourth round yeah why are you holding that information from us you need to be [ __ ] honest bro when [ __ ] hits the fan here you know people are saving their own necks here i know you guys are friends and maybe a little group whatever you guys are trying to start or get into or whatever the hell but don't be an accessory to his crime tell me how his fourth shot happened i heard it i didn't see it when you walked inside after you shot into the ground where did you put the gun i don't remember i honestly don't i was drunk how did he get a hold of it he must have been somewhere near where i was drunk officer we know that you were drunk yeah but you know we've been you know i mean we appreciate you telling us what happened but you know tell us how it happened i i'm not very clear on a lot of the issues because i was drunk listen i know that i've been drunk but i don't i wasn't clear because as soon as i finished doing my rounds i went and i go to the kitchen i got some turkey and then i went right into my bedroom and i can't hear out of this left ear so i heard a pop but that was the end of it and i just rolled over and closed my eyes and the next thing i know that i'm not going to do it that the police are asking richard richard don't start mixing the facts up again i'm not mixing them up i'm just trying to you know what what i recall exactly how i recalled it there is a time where you actually came outside before okay swat actually demanded that you guys come outside okay there there are reports that other people in the house came outside the only person who didn't come outside was larry but when he would walk in front of the window because you're you're for a time there the front bay window by the front door was open and every time that he would pass by you see the swat team members and other uniformed personnel are stating that they figured him to be the suspect okay yes sir so when you came outside you had a cigarette you sat down in a chair you weren't in the bed i just had gotten up from the bed because they knocked on my bedroom door and told me that they're calling us out there right well if they were calling you out there you didn't go to them because we have reports that they asked you to go to them and you didn't neither did michael okay and neither did um i drew a blank on the female's name neither did diane okay yes look i'm probably 20 years younger than you you don't have to call me sir i'm not trying to be disrespectful by that comment what i'm trying to explain to you is we know the whole story now the third officer tells barker that they already know everything which has to leave barker wondering why they need him to say anything if that is the case one possibility is that they are lying but a confession is always the goal because it helps the prosecution you know larry has told us the whole story also so now you're in a position where hey now that we know the whole story you know what you didn't tell us the whole story as you know it and you have to tell us that right now in your words we know what happened we need to decide what we should do here with the parts that you decide that you want to leave out for whatever [ __ ] reason i pretty much told you everything that i remember tell me again comes out i have never fired a pistol before real one i wanted to hear what it sounded like boom boom boom and i went back into the house at that point i don't remember what i did with the pistol and i grabbed some turkey had a little piece of turkey went back into you didn't just roll over and go to sleep sergeant reuben told us that you actually took the gun you put it back in its case and put it up in the attic after i got woken up before i came out to have my cigarette and after you told diane tell everybody that's out there i'm not here that's what she told us and she told that to us in a sworn statement no i never said that to her i never said that to her that's what she said to us so you're telling us when this forefront goes off the police have already been called because of your realms i guess so there's police eyewitnesses okay and you said your blinds were open your front i don't remember skies so you're gonna tell me you weren't there when larry fired the shot that doesn't really change anything but it does change is your credibility i didn't see him fire was short i actually didn't see it myself visually see it the jury that i recall but you heard it i heard a pop yeah yeah and you knew he had the firearm he took the firearm i didn't i wasn't positive i was so sorry god forgive me you can have my dna whatever you want nobody was trying to hurt anybody especially me that's what we figured out we didn't know that right we get calls peop there's people shooting [ __ ] police start responding to the area one doesn't know the exact address swings by he hears a shot now he thinks [ __ ] they're shooting at me that's why this whole thing got blown out the way blowing up the way it has after we've done a thorough investigation we've done to the scene we've got the gun trajectories around no one rounds when the shell casings extract from a firearm they fall a certain feed so you can tell where people are standing the trajectory and things of that sort we don't think anybody nobody in your house is trying to kill anybody no now we just punch stupid [ __ ] drugs [ __ ] it [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] it but are you uh you weren't standing right at the doorway i can't tell you for sure i can't i don't remember and i'm being honest with you i don't remember and i'm being straight straight up with you spell your uh first name for me r-i-c-h-a-r-d last name b-a-r-k-e-r burp 1-9-5-5 they've allowed barker a faint glimmer of hope that he might get away with lesser charges but what barker may not realize is that they do not have to stick to that and may have no intention of doing so 1-1-0 northeast 48th street open florida 3-3-3-3-4 three three three three four okay i'm gonna read this uh this form to you so you understand it okay i richard barker hereby freely involuntary consent to provide broward county sheriff's office deputies with a mouth swab specimen and or blood sample for typing comparison and or other analysis or comparisons that broadcast office deems necessary i have been fully informed that these results may be used against me in court of law and i fully understand that i have a right to refuse to give the sample i have read and understood the above statement and i contend to provide the sample of my own free on my own free will without any threats or promises have been having been made to me do you understand this forms are you consent to give your dna is that correct sign right what did i say what exactly is this going to be used for we're going to use for whatever we deem necessary to compare the scene today is 21st people in jail up in pennsylvania the way they shoot out of their backyards up there yeah but when you're when the houses are so close yeah i don't know i've never been to pennsylvania how what does that look like over there country country if your [ __ ] neighbor is a mile away [ __ ] i'll be popping rounds all over though you know when the houses are so close so this is what actually to see if i murdered somebody or something like that no [Music] we're gonna use it to we're gonna we recover the gun and you know it's not just we obviously you told us you fired around and stuff like that but for legal purposes we're gonna we're gonna use it for elimination purposes because your fingerprints and your dna is going to be on the gun so is larry's and what we're going to do is find those two profiles and latent prints and what we're going to do is we're going to match them up okay well i told you i handled that i know but we have to prove it it would be too easy if you just told us and we're like okay we're done with it you know what i'm saying you just told me you're going to give me a ticket send me on my way well yeah i mean basically you're charged at this point it's a misdemeanor that's all it was dude okay what clothes were you wearing when you uh were shooting out front you were wearing those same clothes yes sir you didn't change your clothes at all this is where i go to bed i like this you know i wear these because in case i have a reaction at night a reaction yeah i'm diabetic okay and you know one time i had a reaction and i was in my uh my shorts and it was it was a girl paramedic i was so embarrassed so now i always sleep well was she embarrassed you weren't embarrassed i was embarrassed oh you were embarrassed um i'm sorry you're asking something um i was just saying i like it you said she was embarrassed anyways any reason why larry would tell us that he changed clothes no not that i know you weren't wearing different pants different shoes when you were shooting the gun into the ground um what time of day or evening was this when you were shooting the gun into the ground i don't know it's just getting dark so it was dusk out right they keep asking questions but all the energy has gone out of barker his answers are by rote and he isn't giving them much thought he is just hoping that they'll be satisfied and let him go darker home did it start to rain yet yes okay talk to me about was it heavy rain was it downpour was it torrential downpour was it a light mist it was uh it was a heavy rain there's a heavy rain yeah okay so in here that this is your in the heavy rain you shot into the ground yes sir okay did anybody change clothes inside the house i don't know what was uh larry wearing all day what he's wearing right now the black shirt i saw him this morning in the afternoon you know i don't think i didn't pay attention to what he was wearing if he was a hot woman would you have paid attention at my age right now no you have to get me some videographer for that now how do you 57 diabetic for 40 years but the diet the diabetes makes you a lot of a lot of things happen i'm disabled no i'm saying like uh you're saying you need viagra no i was saying that yeah probably i mean if you saw a hot looking chick you wouldn't like i'd think about it i don't know if i could uh like that old country song goes that not what i once was but i'm as good once as i ever was who sings that country western song i don't know who things are pretty cool [Music] i'm gonna i'm gonna have to walk home we're all gonna be able to get a ride we'll work something out you probably get a ride i don't think i can walk that far and i don't have any money for a cab other than at the house get a pretty nice house sir it's paid off almost i like the yard but you don't got the uh the jacuzzi going on anymore it looks like no i can't afford it right now well because the heating bill did you even call something yeah everything all right give us another few minutes and uh keep wrapping all this stuff up okay thank you guys so this man not just quite yet but you are going to be let go you'll be going home all right take my place one real soon you guys just wait a little bit longer so just come on might take you to the other room okay finally barker is allowed to leave and he will be able to return home rather than being booked into a cell richard barker was not charged with a felony firing a weapon within city limits is a misdemeanor which means he would be punished with a fine or community service giving his health conditions it is likely they chose to find him rather than demand community service that's the end of today's video if you liked what you watched and want to support the channel hit the like button and check out my patreon link in the description thanks again for watching and i'll see you next time