this is bercy Armstrong a father of three who is often out of town for work leaving his children and pregnant girlfriend alone Armstrong and his girlfriend radio host tashika young were expecting their third child together even though their relationship was deteriorating Armstrong wanted to relocate while young wanted to stay near family at her own job young had confided and her mother that Armstrong was becoming more violent and had recently pulled a gun on her when young tried to break the off and threatened to take custody of their children Armstrong shot her twice before fleeing the apartment leaving his two toddlers with the body of their mother hey Mr Armstrong this is uh detective Kelsey my partner again I'm detective how are you first bcy b r SE y yes Armstrong 41889 yes okay what's a good address but right now I'm just visiting I actually took a job up north I stay in Connecticut and I came in town to make sure I could get my FMLA documents and stuff so I can go back to work oh I got you what's a good uh uh Stu on number for you who's that through what carrier uh that is Verizon okay is there any other numbers for you or is that the no that's my primary number okay you got any other cell phone numbers or any other way to contact you or is that the best way to get hold of you that's the best way to get hold of how long you been using that number uh maybe since December probably since December okay 21 yes all right all right listen obviously I'm very sorry I don't know what all you know what you don't know okay but you know obviously something bad has happened in that apartment okay um so I'd like to have a conversation with you to see Sorry by the way I'm going to get into all that okay but I want to have a conversation with you to see if you can help me figure out what happened tonight okay um but before we do that we are sitting in an interview room okay we're at the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office police memorial building okay all right all right so before I start asking questions of you or having a conversation cuz this is an active investigation I'm going to go further with that and explain all that to you in a second okay I need to read you your rights okay all right standard procedure I do it with everybody that I bring in here and ask questions of okay protects you and me all right all right are you under the influence of any drugs alcohol is there anything or any reason that that would inhibit your ability to have a reasonable conversation with me right now uh no just the fact that I'm not aware of anything well I know and that's what I'm going to get into all that okay um like I said we're at the police memorial building okay what's today day 723 yeah for 30 more minutes you got a drink you need snack or restroom uh no my lips were poed from sitting in the back and I know I'm sorry you had to sit back there so long there's a lot going on right now that's what I said I'm going to break it all down and get into all that okay um again these are your constitutional rights so all right do this with everybody you reading right okay yes I do all right I'll read it to you you have the following rights under the United States Constitution you not have to make a statement or say anything anything you say can be used against you in court you have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before you make a statement or before any questions are asked of you and to have the lawyer with you during any questioning if you cannot afford to hire a lawyer want to be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish if you do answer questions you have the right to stop answering questions at any time and consult with a lawyer do you understand all that yes is there any part of that you don't understand uh no okay what I'm going to ask you to do then is your sign it's not an admission of anything it's just saying that you and I covered your constitutional rights together okay and then I'm going witness it as I'm signning as on the witness line as well okay you said you're what do you do at you said you're I work in management for I work for Amazon at fulfillment center up north okay how long you been doing that uh I've been been at their facility since December before that I ran a company so I left Jacksonville back in December January and so you left Jacksonville back in December January and moved up to Connecticut yeah so and you were for Amazon up there yeah why you get job Amazon here we got Amazon here I mean I like the I kind of like the culture I like how everything is sometimes you like to kind of slide and go somewhere else and then me and the family we were thinking about relocating but she teaches and stuff like that so I was kind of trying to see if she wants to move up there and then you know the kids are down here so how you I enjoy it I love it man really building snowman and things like that you moved there at like Prime winter time so um are you from Jacksonville yes so you're originally born and raised here yes where'd you go to school I went to South Carolina State University oh well where did you go to like school around here and then Southern New Hampshire oh um I went to University Christian and then I went to John Ral so UC yeah did you graduate from UC or not no I graduated from uh John Ral okay fromal uh you said you went to college did you finish college yes yeah what did you get your degree in uh General Studies and Leadership Essentials okay are you using that with h Amazon absolutely okay paying pretty well I think sometimes we take a job for the opportunity because we're on a track room for yeah the potentials there it's Amazon so that's a huge company obviously yeah me and my director we're pretty close so things should be all right all right you mentioned family a second I guess who is family to you like who is your family uh my family is um well tashika okay my kids my mom and dad um that's really just that's really my family who are you living with on kinlock Drive uh that's actually my grandmother's residence okay so you stay with your grandmother on kenlock no I I don't even stay in Jacksonville okay I'm just here right now okay so who do you stay with when you're here are you and tashika still together most of the time I stay in middleberg lately I've been in middleberg that's your parents okay that's my mom's house so mom's in middleberg Grandma's on klock that's the address that I have on file and everything but I've been in middleberg for the past maybe like the past week and a half okay and did you just come back in town recently how long you been back in town from Connecticut um I think I came back here about two weeks ago okay um all right well I know you showed up to have you been staying with tashika or visiting her in the two weeks like how's how was y'all's relationship um well you know she and I we have a good relationship me and my parents we have a good relationship so I think that everybody meshes well for the most part so where like for instance where did you sleep last night uh last night I stayed in middleberg okay so you stay in middleberg is that normally where you sleep when you're in town yes do you ever sleep at Tas uh the last time I spent the night over there was probably last like last Friday okay either last Friday or Saturday had you been over to her apartment since last Friday or Saturday no okay so last time you were at T's Place was last Friday or Saturday you spent the night I spent the night my mom picked me up that afternoon I had to take like a 12-hour course for um statement with my license I got you so she picked me up that Saturday and I've been in middleberg ever since okay so what in your own words again what is tashika to you cuz you said family so how like what do you consider tashika uh she and I like a future wife future yeah she and I we had um we had kind of separated a little bit but every time we separate we get right back together okay Armstrong and young had a volatile relationship spanning several years they had a son and a daughter ages three and one um so where are yall at right this second uh fixing it fixing it we're fixing it yesterday she said that um is this about her yeah I mean that's kind of there this is about tashika yesterday she said that um she was like she wanted to fix the family make the family work was this in person or y'all talking on the phone we were texting okay about what time was that uh it was late late okay maybe like 10:30 11: last night yeah how long did y'all go back and forth I mean I'm not I know exactly you don't know all the exact numb but just approximately like what couple hours couple minutes we probably went back and forth maybe I mean we text each other throughout the day okay and then I text her this morning and I text her this afternoon and then she didn't respond to my text this afternoon and I called called her mother see you know she was around her cuz sometimes you know when she gets mad she won't answer my calls or text so I just kind of send something to a mom and say you know can you tell her just talk to me and then I showed up and then you guys put me in hand CU you said sometimes she won't respond to you when she's mad what what did she get mad at you about why would she get mad at you uh sometimes she thinks some that I can be insensitive uh sometimes we don't meet eye to eye it's so okay but you know I'm a guy man it's some some things I just don't care about as long as she's happy at the end of the day as long as we can kind of refuse the situation that's how it is how many kids do you have I have three kids two from her okay and then we have a um newborn on the way and I have my oldest son he's a 5-year-old 5-year-old yeah okay that's from a previous relationship yeah my college sweetheart she end up I were in a relationship for 7 years we were engaged we broke up and they live in the Charlotte area and Charlotte yes and um she and I we've been in a relationship for five or six years we had an engagement we broke it off and then you know whenever I'm home I try to see if she wants to move up North with me so okay so do you still see your first child's mother in Charlotte uh no you don't it's strictly about my kid you get to see your 5-year-old yeah they just took him back um to Charlotte today my sister drove up there so how does that work I have a very active relationship with all of my children how does that work like does do you have to go up and get your 5-year-old or does U my family is pretty involved with everything so what my family does is you know they make sure that everybody's hands on right and you know it's a family man it takes a lot of people make things work so is your mom close with tashika and your first child's mother um I would like to think so okay so they they talk like tashik your I actually think my mom likes them more than me oh well I got you um so the last time you physically were at tsh's apartment was last Friday or Saturday or that's just the last time you stayed the night there no that's the last time I was there okay when I left there I never stayed the night again I never returned to her apartment I got you yeah I was actually going to try and see if she could come and hang out with me but she wasn't answering my call or anything so and how old are the two kids that you have with tashika uh BJ is three and Bay's one it's BJ bercy Jr the third bercy the third gotta okay Bailey's one okay and those and then you said she you had another one a third child on the way with to shica yeah but we don't know what it's going to be though know how far along she was in the pregnancy uh she had an appointment and I think that she was eight like eight or nine weeks eight or nine weeks long yeah I was supposed to be making one of the next appointments with her in the future but a lot of times when I come in town a lot of times when I come in town I try to hurry up and get in and out because I have to make sure that I get back to work had something going on with my attendance and FMLA paperwork so I had to get my get some things situated with my doctor okay um so when you do go to the apartment how do you normally get over there you drive yourself or no I haven't been driving oh you haven't been driving no okay because I have a 12-hour course um that I have to take for my license to be reinstated I got you so how do you normally get around them um normally when I'm in Jacksonville I mean my whole life is up north so when I come in town I really don't have to get around too much but if you do if you do like how didd you get there today when you showed up there today oh I had a ride from my stepdad oh your stepdad Now where's your stepdad live talking about middleberg he stays in middleberg okay with your mom yes okay and did he stay or just drop you off and go uh I think he just dropped me off and left I was just going to get a ride from TSH could have head back that way okay so tashika will drive you back and forth sometimes too if I mean in a situation like that I I probably would have stayed tonight just to kind of patch things up or is she just would took me back to middleb um you said you got a ride with your stepdad today yes what's his name um his name is Dale Dale yes what's his last name uh alh Helen you sp it's like a lyen h a l e e m e e yes okay okay so how so being that tashik is about 8 nine weeks pregnant with your third child like how are y'all doing right now like I mean yall get along right this second were things rough or uh last night we had a few words but whenever we get into an argument or something like that I always try and sooth it over okay you know she's always a little more serious with that stuff than me so what is she upset about uh she told me the fact that we aren't married that's what it was about it was about marriage and commitment she wanted you to marry her did she feel like you were still committed to your your other no not at all she's not even in the picture oh okay do you so you don't even speak with your first child's mother or very limited just about the child or no we don't speak about it at all okay so who talks to her to deal with getting your 5-year-old back and forth your mom yes okay and my sister all right um so what made you show up at the apartment Theon night when we were all out there um well normally if I call her so many times or if I text her she'll get back in touch with me so I called her mom and her mom said she'll have her call me and you know I was kind of worried a little bit so I stopped over there okay and try to see what was going on with her because it's not like her to not answer the phone for me so y'all y'all were texting back and forth last night you had some words um she feels like you're not committed enough maybe talking about marriage and stuff like that and then at what time the day did you start trying to get a hold of her uh I think I called her first thing this morning mhm I think I called her around 8:39 I think I called her again like at 11: can I think I I I can show you on myself cell pH on okay and I might ask you about that again a little bit just trying to figure out did did you try to text her at all or did yeah I text her as well she wasn't responding that was why I called her mom and I talked to her mom I was like you know if you can get in contact with tashik have her call me or text me or something I'd appreciate it you know sometimes when she doesn't answer for me I'll like try and call my sister or call call her mom to see if I can get a response from her right do you know around what time last night you'll stop texting or calling uh uh maybe around it was late maybe between 10 I'm not sure okay let's over deal what was was it a text was that the last communication you had with tashika yes what was her last message to you uh the last message that she said to me said that I think she said that she felt like I didn't love her I think that's what it was okay so you know a woman said something like that to you you know it kind of you know it kind of make you feel away so then I called her this morning I wanted to try and Patch it up and just kind of you know right yeah would you describe y'all's relationship how long have y' all been together I know you have a five years years she and I are actually planning to get married okay um and did you ever live with her at that apartment at one point no okay so you've always lived separate like with your she I think she moved into that apartment in January no no no she moved in there in February um by the time she moved in there I had already relocated okay you po the question yet um you know when we broke off the engagement we didn't make it public that we kind of got y were engaged before yeah but but publicly we're still kind of engaged yeah how long were we all engaged for um man I'm I'm still engaged you're still engaged I'm still engaged but you don't have like a date like a wedding date or anything like that it's like one of those situations where you know a person and you've been with a person so long to the point where you really don't have to question it it's like right it's like we have our kids together we have our lives together let's just move forward so was what was her hangup then about the commitment and everything if y'all were engaged and uh there was no hang up on her end the hangup was on my end because she and I we had something going on where she kind of wanted to stay in Jacksonville a little bit and me you know I was making my living up north right so I was paying her bills and I'm paying my bills and I'm just like you know we can cut the overhead cost if you just come up here yeah so that's what we were working towards so she didn't want to move up north she said that the only way she would move up north is if we went and got the uh marriage certificate and everything if we went on ahead and went through with it then she said she come why didn't you do that then I'm planning on it planning on it okay yeah did she would she have left her family you think that she had down here I mean do you did she have I think that the family that we started was probably more important yeah young had close ties with her family and often relied on them for child care she was also very happy with her career path so it is unlikely that she would have wanted to move but so she was willing to come up north with you but you needed she wanted you to marry for yeah yeah yeah so it was it was pretty much a done deal like a solid commitment so have you did her mom ever call you back after you told her like hey I can't get hold of her no I spoke to her and she was like all right so I'm thinking that she probably called her and she was just like U I just don't feel like talking bir day or something like that all right um is there in I mean do you know of anybody else that she could talks to I me was there any of that in y'all's relationship any infidelity whatever you want to call it was I mean was she back and forth with anybody if she was I wouldn't though because I'm we don't stay together you know what I mean yeah like I stay up north she stays in Jacksonville whenever I'm in town you know I I need to get a hotel room I think the most that I ever stayed in her apartment was um this last visit last week and you know I left with my mom so did you stay there just the one night Friday or Saturday or do you no I stayed there for like 3 days three days was that kind of normal sometimes you'd stay there for a couple days days and then uh I think maximum I probably stay two days at a time okay most of the time whenever I come in town I get my own living arrangements okay um you mentioned the fact that you know the time that y'all communicate last and all that would be on your phone would you be okay with us looking at that yeah that's fine okay cuz I think we have your phone somewhere one of the officers does or something um in order to do that though would you be willing to sign a consent to let us look at your phone okay all right what kind of phone do you have uh it's an iPhone when was the last time you uh do you FaceTime your kids or do you do you ever come and pick them up or what uh she sends me pictures and things like that but whenever I'm in town a lot of times we're around each other okay you know what I mean so they ever stay like at your mom's or your grandma's or anything like that yeah they come out sometimes come I got you but I would have like hotel rooms and stuff like that so sometimes she just come to my hotel room but I'm I'm never in Jacksonville yeah that's got to be hard I mean I think as a as a dad and as a spouse you know we make the sacrifice man know you get used to just doing what you have to do mhm what number iph found do you have what model I think it's a 12 plus 12 plus yeah um is do you have a password on there uh there are numbers num 0000 418 0418 yes what's your uh three-year-old into see like like dinos or my three-year-old is BJ U BJ is a boy and my one-year-old is a girl baely but BJ likes um likes Monster Trucks and stuff like that a little robot sometimes I try and put stuff in front of him so he can kind of figure it out as it goes yeah you ever tried and takeing a Monster Jam here at the downtown no but tashika took them with her friend Cory okay so oh the Monster Jam yeah and I just paid for it yeah did you like that oh yeah he did I bet that would have been pretty cool all right Mr AR what I'm going to do here is this a consent a search form okay in order for me to look at your phone I have to get your permission okay this is is basically you giv me written permission to look at your phone okay to try to establish your last communication and just verify everything that you're saying okay like I said this you just want to see her the text between she and I yeah I mean I just I want to see anything that pertains to anything that can help us figure out what happened to I mean she and I we send each other photos in my phone I mean that doesn't I mean if there's anything like that in there I can I mean if y'all are cons consensually sending photos back and forth first of all that's between the okay not against the law and I don't have any interest in that okay I'm more interested in the communication in the time that's fine is that cool yeah that's that's fine so what I'm going to do then is it says that you're giving permission to me in the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office to do that okay and then I'm going to ask you to initial these two lines right here feel free to read this form I will read it to you okay yeah I I I feel a little uncomfortable about it okay because we send each other I might have to defer on that okay um do you know what the status of tashika is right now as far as what just I mean do you know why we're sitting here having this conversation why you're here no okay I asked you guys that a million times yeah the officers on scene well I asked them and they said that I they had to speak to the detectives right um well this is like I said it's an active investigation okay and you're down here at the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office obviously okay all right uh tashik has passed away okay and I'm very sorry to have to inform you that but that's why all this is happening okay and that's why I'm asking you for your help what what happened to well that's a good question and that's why I'm here talking to you I'm hoping that you can help me figure that out that's why I asked you the question earlier do you know who else who else Mr Aron let me ask you this when you got there earlier and you saw all the police give a minute I'll give you a minute all right I'm going give you a minute I need your help though okay God [Music] oh God oh my God who did it who did it oh that's why I'm sitting here talking to you trying to get your help let me ask you this though when you showed up in the apartments earlier and you saw the police cars and crime scene tape and crime scene units and Tas what was going I mean what was going through your mind what did you think was going on I didn't know [ __ ] I'm showing up just trying to see just see my kids see her real quick [ __ ] I don't know do you know where your kids are I didn't even know why y'all put me I didn't know what was going on do you know where your kids are no I don't okay I I called her I called her at the scene to see what was going on but she didn't answer the phone she didn't answer the phone that's why I showed up right oh so that's what I'm asking you wait you obviously knew that you couldn't get hold of her all day today you said you called her several times and she wasn't replying to you okay you show up at the apartment and see all the everything that was going on there with us so I mean did you not I mean what was your gut telling something bad I just didn't know I don't know I saw people looking around and stuff like that and I saw a [Music] girl saw a girl I I saw a girl out there and I know she recognizes me from her building but I a know why everybody was standing outside right yeah I mean it's and again I'm sorry okay I over here man well oh but I'm asking you for your help all right I love that's why we're trying to come up with a timeline of when people last spoke to her while we were asking about your phone um wa that's my phone just bring it just bring it where is it uh we we'll have the try down offic get it but I can't do anything with your phone without you giving me consent okay oh my God that's up to you I'm not trying to force on you okay there's a obviously you just got hit with a lot of information okay and terrible news and I want to respect that but at the same time we've got to try to figure out what happened to to shica now okay for her her family her kids you as her I understand that's what I was just about to say you her children's father okay and that's why you remember the question I asked you earlier did you know of anyone else that she may have been talking to or anything else going on I know she had friends and stuff but right do you know that she had people at Department did she go out you know I mean she's got two kids there so I assume she a lot of friends but with two little kids she probably can't leave home much I would assume a lot of times her parents keep the kids her parents keep the kids but sometimes but I know that she always has them a lot of times I check in and she'll send me a picture letting me know that you know everything's all right does she have anywhere she likes to go people she likes to hang with things she likes to do she what's up give me a second okay SP as [ __ ] my kids are my kids all right where are my kids your kids are fine they're with uh chica's Mom they're they're they're okay um do you know who all had access [ __ ] Mom I don't know I know you said I I don't go I don't go I'm sorry I don't go okay we're just if like a if like mom had a key or if a good friend of hers had a key or anything like that I don't know you don't know I don't know I just I was I should have been there with her and she never mentioned what what what happened well we don't know that's just I mean when you got there I had just pulled up not long had that tape there something that happened at that apartment Armstrong act shocked and devastated by the news but the detectives have some issues with his performance he saw that the apartment was a crime scene yet never appeared to think that young or one of the children could have been killed most people would have been more adamant about getting answers I just released another extremely intense interrogation on my patreon this time about a son of a millionaire being interrogated for the death of his father his trial was the longest and most expensive trial in the history of St John watch it right now at patreon.com stranger stories Plus something that happened though I saw her truck though yeah and I saw tap there listen this is an active homicide investigation that's why you're here okay I I would I want to know what we want to know what happened okay I want to help you figure out what happened but in order to do that you have to help me like we got to work together right now I had just gotten there not long before you showed up okay I understand and to do that I definitely need 100% honesty out of you okay I'm telling you what I know I understand um and I want you to be sure I'd rather you tell me you're don't you're not sure you don't remember then lock yourself into something that turns out not to be true later okay so you said earlier we've established a couple times now the last time you were at that apartment was a week ago approximately last Friday or Saturday Friday and you stayed there for two or three nights couple nights right few nights you said I might have stayed there from that Wednesday to Friday okay and I left there okay and you have not been there since no okay and you do not know of anyone else that comes and goes from that apartment other than you and maybe her mom I I'm not sure okay but she doesn't speak to you of anyone that she has over friends company that's okay that's not really my business coming from her is she does she go out party does she like to have people over I mean I know she's had people over um she's not really a partyer we cut that out a while ago um you've been together five years has there ever been any issues where you caught her talking to some other dudes or anything like that uh we had times we had incidents um and vice versa on my end okay but you know we always stick it out we we are kind of fully committed I know that I wasn't dating anyone else outside of her what kind of what when you were over there how was it I mean last time MH the last time we had an uh we had like an argument okay like we yeah we had a small argument and then my mom picked me up in then I hav't been over there since would you say maybe that's why you don't go over there so much it's just arguing no no I kind of just prefer my space man okay you know especially when I'm in town then I I don't really care for um you know I don't really care for that complex like that I've seen a few different things over there that turned me off about it and I told her that I didn't want her staying out there either so the last time you were there and you stayed there for those few know it's just you her and your two kids yes okay you have a pretty good relationship obviously with I mean your kids you see them like or the only time you see them I know they're young she and I she and I we don't have real problems do y' all FaceTime like does she FaceTime you so you can see and talk to the kids when you're not there I me anything like we're we're together it's like it's nothing she's not going to say to you know what I mean like and she didn't reveal anything to you last week or in your conversation a sense that she was having issues with anyone or anything like that she didn't convey any any kind of worry or fear about anything going on in her life outside of you I mean there are some things that we don't discuss there's some things that we don't talk about some stuff that we don't talk about such as uh I mean sometimes she doesn't tell me her whereabouts but you know I think us as adults we have right our privacy sometimes you know but for the most part she would I mean we like any other couple when she questioned your commitment was she worried that you were seeing other females I think she stopped worried about that okay young believed Armstrong was seeing other women and she was correct Armstrong was in a relationship with at least one other woman she just couldn't understand why he just wouldn't get married but you know what last night she said something about um me following extra people on my in some mentioned something about more females being like it would be Patty stuff so last night she was concerned about women on your Instagram how many females you were following or something yeah no messages no direct you know female stuff like you know sometimes when a woman does that you have to reiterate that like why you following her why you following her yeah stuff like that you only had this many followers now you got this many yeah like exactly I got you they watch that stuff don't they like a Hulk they really do especially when talk about relocating them and stuff like that and making the family work you got an extra up cuz you're out of town so she's probably really worried about what you're up to I mean I worry about what she's up to as well but you have to find your peace somewhere you can't worry about everything if you worry about everything you drive yourself crazy if I stay a th000 miles away that's what part of Connecticut are you staying in uh New Haven New Haven that's where the Amazon facility do you work out the actual Amazon facility up there okay how long are you gone like you go back and forth like how often like uh I Trav I travel every month but right now my job they're waiting for um FMLA documents so I was just waiting on my doctor to get those forms back to me because they need to justify my absences yeah so that's that's really why I was in to I got you when y'all have arguments um like say you're there in person staying there with the kids y'all ever argue and fight in front of the kids at all I mean have like obviously Bailey right your youngest is really young but like your son he's three correct yeah so at that age they kind of kind of start pick stuff up a little bit I mean has he ever witnessed yall I had or argue or anything like that uh he has okay like arguing like yelling screaming you know stuff breaking anything like that like to what degree uh nothing too too serious um a couple of things throng uh she had um she had a temper okay y throw things at each other or just like stuff gets broken during arguments she throws stuff she throws stuff I'm more passive aggressive I I don't have time for that anything physical no no okay no y never put hands on each other um no I've had to remove or grab her but I've never like punched or hit or anything what's the worst thing she's ever thrown at you yeah a knife a knife yeah police ever get called on any of that stuff like when you were over there arguing or whatever police ever show up knock at the door or anything like that a lot of time one time when I stayed on Harrison a house we lived in that I bought um she pulled a knife for me I think that I reported that how long was that that was like last year and then there was another incident recently but I didn't report it I didn't really you know I get to the point where I'm used to how she is so I just go with it who's who's I mean do y'all get to the point where you yelling back and forth at each other is it mainly her yelling at you you yelling at her like how's that y'all both shout at each other and bust at each other or what um we would go back and forth we would argue and stuff like that but a lot of times man I just walk away from it most of the time sometimes it get out of hand and she starts throwing stuff but even with that the aftermath it's like we would be all right you know one one thing about it once you get used to how a person is kind of easier to deal with them that's kind of how we work how does your son react youry old when y are fighting ARG um my son didn't really witness any heavy arguing I mean it was just like a regular family man families argue for us sometimes and we make up and we keep it moving nothing nothing serious nothing it's like nothing that would make anybody like really angry you know what I mean like Young's family told the police that the couple's fights were more vicious than what might be considered normal just regular stuff so you said the police got involved when you stayed on Harrison a year ago proximately uh maybe over a year ago but since she's been in this apartment you said about February right this year she in that apartment the police have never had to come there while you were there no she hasn't called the police on you that you're aware of no and you haven't called the police on her no okay um have you ever had to reach out to her mom or any other family members and be like look you know you need to talk to she cuz she's kind of out of control or uh I think her mom knows about some things but okay I wasn't like a town to like I'm not going to call your mom every time something goes on what's your relationship with her mom do y'all really have a relationship I mean do you go around her uh me and her mom we're pretty cordal we don't have a bad relationship y'all do like family dinners and stuff when you're in town or uh only on holidays only holidays okay sometimes like since I moved away sometimes when I come in town mom stopped by or we' go over to her parents house her dad's really sick so we would stop over there and see Mr Young um just little stuff like that you know this what happens when you head it towards marriage when you're trying to lock everything in you make sure that it's like one family I got you um okay and you have not been over there since last week no okay is there is there any reason why your maybe your son would have said that you've been there since last week maybe FaceTime okay how often do y'all FaceTime probably once every couple of days okay when was the last time you Facetime with theik it could have been yesterday yesterday could have been yesterday I know we might have FaceTime possibly I'm not sure but somewhere long usually every couple days yeah does she have any other phones that you know of or does she just have one phone I I don't know I mean once I once I relocated I just kept everything about the family because when it comes down to it the only thing I can worry about is what we're trying to do I can't worry about who she talks to when I'm gone I just know she'll mention some of her friends but I just have to trust her discretion M you know I try not to um try not to poke too much you know what her phone looks like like if it's got a case or if it's what kind of phone it is she had an iPhone just like mine she iPhone like yours yeah you what kind of was did she have a case on it I'm not sure not sure okay you know what color it was by chance no I just know it's an iPhone because we FaceTime yeah I got you you know her password I remember one time it was like a set of numbers but I don't I don't try to go through her stuff though Mr Armstrong I'm going to ask you a question and I'm going to make a statement okay so I'm going to ask a question don't respond immediately think on it for a second okay cuz I'm going to follow it up with a stat all right is there any reason why your three-year-old son bercy III would say that Daddy hurt Mommy uh and then remember what I said remember what I said let me make it the statement don't follow it up think about it for a second okay because these incidents it's usually one or two things okay good people lose control momentarily do some things say some things they regret or wish they hadn't done A or B there's an evil that exists within you and you're okay doing that and you go into self-preservation mode and start lying about what happened and always think about yourself trying to protect yourself okay and since I've been talking to you hold on like I said I'm going to give you a chance to answer that question in a minute just let me finish up and since I've been talking to you you seem like an educated person I mean you are educated person you've got a college degree all right we've had some normal conversation you seem like a good dude okay right but from what I'm gathering based on what I know about at that apartment and my conversation with you and the conversation that's been had with your son it seems like something really bad happened between you and tashika last night okay and maybe there was like a a moment where y'all things got really heated really intense and something happened okay and that's what I'm interested in if you don't know that's fine I'm not obviously asking you to say something that you don't know about or say that you did something if you didn't but what I'm asking is think about this woman her family and those two kids yeah I haven't been over there since last week but I know that when it comes to interaction um okay she says that she doesn't bring any other men around my kid okay so so you haven't been there so if something bad happened to her last night there's no way it could have been you absolutely not which leads me back to my original question why would your three-year-old son maybe indicate that you had something to do with hurting her most of the time I'm the only man that's around her right and that's why I ask she's not supposed to have other men around my kid but I'm not sure if that's the case she could have it could have been somebody in there but I don't know but but if there is if he's used to seeing me right if there is though there's no way I mean come on we know that as men and having children like there's no way your son at 3 years old is going to be calling another man daddy right I I don't think so I mean but I know that if it was to the point where your three-year-old son was calling another man daddy that would probably mean that man was around a lot and you would probably know about it at that point I would think right I mean I wouldn't know you would I don't stay there okay and I don't know how she would I I don't think that she would introduce a man by his name right or something like I don't know I don't know so I mean but you understand that's I mean that's a concern to say the least I know that I wasn't there and you said that your son earlier just never witnessed any physical violence because you said there hasn't been physical violence between you and the past as of late no as of late okay yeah fair enough cuz you you mentioned the knife incident last year um was your son there for that would he even remember that you think I mean did he witness that uh I think that he did witness it okay I think he witness me get loud and things like that I'm just as guilty as she is when it comes to all okay arguments and stuff fair enough do you have a gun uh no I don't okay do you car you don't ever carry a gun on you protction I no I had a gun before but I don't have it anymore okay all right have you been around guns recently within the last couple days uh yeah I have I was around a Taurus um yeah I was around a Taurus 40 like a 40 caliber what was that uh like a few days ago did you shoot it no I didn't okay whose gun was it that was just a friend of mine oh so you don't own any guns or have any guns no I don't have any all right um and then obviously I haven't done there's a lot of stuff I still have to do okay but and there's nobody or no other reason that you can think of for tashika or for someone else to hurt tashik she's not she hasn't mentioned a single thing to you about I don't I wouldn't know okay I wouldn't know you don't think she'd express to you if she was in any kind of trouble or fear or danger m if she had something going on with someone else she would probably try and keep it away from me and last night when y'all were talking she didn't Express anything like that to you no and I hadn't seen her since last week okay you hadn't seen her physically since last week but youall talked obviously yeah how did you normally communicate through normal text messenger apps text just phone text regular text FaceTime phone calls I got you um sometimes Facebook M like you know we're a couple do what couples do but I do feel like she was seeing someone else but I don't I'm not sure it's not so it's not like I it's not like I've been like that wouldn't bother you I can't control everything I know that she's grown so am I but if the woman's asking you to commit to her and marry her and you're talking about moving up north I mean one time you know I found that she was kind of texting guy back and forth but I didn't really look too hard into it I mean I've had infidelity in my relationship with her and she's accepted me back plenty of times so you know who am I to turn it you know what I mean when was the last time you were in town before this will stand up being town uh had to have been like a month before that about a month ago yeah okay hold on if I've been here this week I've been at my mom since last week to this week since like a week I had gotten in town like that Sunday since like two weeks so before that it had been a month since i' had been okay do you know how far along she is in her her current pregnancy you guys asked me that already it's like between 8 and nine weeks eight and N weeks um is there any concern that someone else might have been involved with her uh I thought about it but she never expressed that to you no she didn't she was acting 100% it's your baby as far as I know it's mine but and she was acting like 100% like it was your baby too or did y'all have that conversation I mean did you flat ask I really didn't ask you didn't ask that didn't was one concerning to you at all if you think maybe she's seen someone maybe she's not I try not to make her look like a you know what I mean I try to give her respect you said you were paying her bills earlier I mean do you want to be paying bills for a woman if she's seeing and having babies now with someone else possibly I mean I'm responsible for my children right I already have two with her so I just hold up my end of the deal as far as things go I know she had a um I know she had a firearm but I don't know what she did with it what kind of gun she have I think it was like a um it was like a 22 like a 22 with a long nose or something like that like a rifle or a pistol it was a pistol like a like a revolver or like semi-auto it was like semi-auto semi-auto yeah something a woman would have I got you have you ever had guns at all yes yes I have on uh cuz you said you don't currently have any right no when's what's the last gun that you had uh the last gun that I had I had a 40 and I also had a had a Glock the weapon used to kill young was a 9mm Glock I had a 40 and I had a glove the only two guns I've ever had what happened to this um I know somebody from what she from what she said somebody stole the um the Glock out of her apartment so I reported that stolen I reported that to JSO back in um back in January like someone broke in our apartment or yeah it was taken out of her apartment okay this was back when I really wasn't over there like that okay and this was a apartment she's living in now it got stolen from there yes okay but you reported it yes okay and you didn't get another gun since then no what about the uh what about the 40 uh the 40 that was like a friend of my eyes so it was like more along lives or something for protection but I never you know I don't have to use it yeah well where's that at now uh it's back in their possession oh your buddy yeah okay I got you the only problem I have right now with Mr arong is that I have a child your child that says that you hurt his mommy both children were present when young was killed her daughter was found holding her hand while the three-year-old boy was in another room clearly shaken he repeatedly told people that his father was the one to hurt his mother and at 3 years old I just find that incredibly difficult to believe that he would make that up or just say that the thing about my son is when it comes to men I'm his dad but I do not know who he has around him I don't know who she brings around when I'm not around um when he says that Daddy hurt Mommy that could have been something a while back um I know that I haven't been in that apartment complex since last week um and I think that you know I I think that everybody kind of knew that okay well again coming back to this are you any more comfortable helping us try to figure out the timeline the consent to search for your cell phone or not uh that's fine you just want to figure what just between today and what this last week any evidence pertaining to yeah to you and to shica in this investigation that's fine I mean is will that help me go home messages phone call history location history all that stuff I'm going to look at all that okay with your consent but in order to do that you have to sign a form and giving me consent all right and after that can I go home well yeah it won't be like as soon as you sign the form but I need I need more I understand um I need you to initial these two lines all right that says I have the right refuse consent search of my property and that obviously any information that we glean from this search could be used against you okay just like I read your rights earlier so I'm going ask you to initial those too all right it's just the text messages right no I'm going to I'd like to look at location text phone calls all I mean you said you haven't been there in a week your cell phone might be able to help verify that all right so I'm ask you initial those two and then sign right there and that passcode that you gave 0000 418 that's the code to the phone that you had on you tonight right yeah the iPhone 12 plus you said you thought it was yeah okay 1122 and you said you don't know anyone else that might have access to her apartment or anyone that she's been I wouldn't know because she she knows my driving situation right so she she doesn't have to worry about me showing up all day we just we're trying to get to the bottom of us see you know who might have had access to her apartment who might youve been talking to and um I mean this will help us with a timeline to see when when you last spoke to her uh you know we talked to her mom we're trying to figure out you know who knows her who last talked to her kind of to give us a time frame between when she was found today and when someone last talked to her to kind of narrow that time frame yeah you know what I mean I haven't seen her since last week um but maybe when I'm out I don't know I don't know what she does outside of me I don't ask her questions I try not to insinuate sometimes I do do you know if she's got like like if she talks to her mom like does she tell her mom everything or if she's got a really good friend that she might that we could talk to to kind of get more information on who someone that's here that might know a little bit more about her day today like a BFF like who would she if she was talking to a girl would probably be Cory Cory maybe Cory Stafford Cory Stafford you don't have to know Cory's number do you no I don't does she live in the apartment complex or no she no she doesn't okay and that's a that's a a woman Corey yeah okay can you describe her at all we're just going to try and Cory she's a car salesman car salesman what she look like uh maybe heavy set brown skin long hair she doesn't she's not a bad person but if there was one person that she might be talking to about anybody else she might have been seeing other than you that might be Cory that she would reveal that kind of stuff to possibly okay do you know about how old Cory is Cory's like a year older than me so she's like 34 34 and she's here in Jackson yes do you know where she says no I don't maybe somewhere on the West Side you said car salesman you know where not sure not sure okay how about her mom does she uh her and her mom pretty tight as far as her and mom pretty far as they have a decent relationship I know sometimes you know you don't really talk too heavily about your direct household and what goes on and stuff yeah we just talk about what we have going on don't how it is we're just trying to find anyone that knows her pretty well that you know might have been talking to her texted her this morning or you know what I mean just trying to figure out just kind of narrow down when this may have happened um you know to give us a better clue so you consider yourself to be like a ladies man little bit you said you have some infidelity issues you got a little uh maybe flirting I mean you're a working man you're an educated man yeah but I don't I don't get around too much you don't got you don't got more than one phone no you have a work phone through Amazon or anything like that no I just use my one phone number phone you know I do have a different phone number um attached to it from like a text app but that's on my iall like you know how you have like a app with another number on or something like WhatsApp yeah I have those on my pH but just one phone yeah just one phone and you've had that phone you said since December yes okay do you talk to her through that other phone app or no okay you said y'all pretty much just text phone call and FaceTime yeah I used to use the phone for like business purposes the other number but that was about it all right now um when you I know you said you don't go to the it doesn't sound like you go to the apartment a whole lot right no okay when you do go there does she have to let you in or do you have a key I had a key you do have a key do you still have a key uh I think I might have giving it back to her but I know I have a copy of it somewhere okay so you still have a key of the apartment yeah okay um would you I mean would you ever just go over there and go in or do you normally not I mean I'm assume she knows when you're coming right yeah if I would you know I would call her and let her know I was on the way and stuff like that you never just showed up surprised just to see what's going on a couple of times yeah but my mom um after we fell out that last week um I just kind of stayed at my mom's house man okay but y'all were still talking yeah we were still talking but I was trying to see if um I could see her today it kind of worried me a little bit when she wasn't ask her my calls do y'all ever go long periods of not communicating no okay so even if y'all aren't necessarily seeing each other physically you're still talking yeah okay what's the longest period I mean if she's mad or you're mad what's the longest y'all would go without talking never really maybe a day a day okay who's normally the one to give in uh come on you know how it is that's there always I think that um I think that we both do you both okay I think that I think um once she and I start dealing with with each other on a certain level yeah um just get to the point where you start getting past that type of stuff maybe when we first started dating it was a little more difficult but I mean she she obviously cared for you you all got kids together another one you had another one on the way I mean she drove all the way to and from middleberg sometimes to give you a ride no oh no I would just get there um Uber mom just come grab me did you ever like Uber or anything like that over there no no have you ever done it that's probably expensive one um how much is that ride if you I have I've never had to do that I've never had to Uber from um her place to that you would just like mom step between mom step her I mean maybe if I lived in Jacksonville I probably would have to do that but you know whenever I'm in town I'm only in town for like short periods of time so it's like two and three days at a time stuff like that so so between mom stepdad and then her you didn't have to no one of them always got you back and forth yeah for the most part only when I'm in Jacksonville only time I Uber and lift is when I'm up North because I have to I use it to go to work get home stuff and you don't drive at all not even I mean I know say a lot of people don't have good license that doesn't stop them from driving but you you're pretty disciplined with that you don't drive no I got you where' you say you were staying the last couple days I've been in middleb your that's your mom's in Middle yes okay and um can you just run me through like as best you can your timeline the last two days uh starting from I guess so today Saturday yesterday was Friday I guess where you went to where you went to bed Thursday night and woke up Friday morning uh I've just been there just been there yeah I haven't I haven't really been in town okay you say haven't really been in town like have you literally been in middleberg the whole I mean past several days that's where I've been okay did you go anywhere any out there you just literally just stay at your I went to a store there but you just stay at your parents house mean I had everything that I needed you don't have a girl out there no I don't nothing I'm pretty I'm pretty um I don't really lack too much self-control man okay I don't I don't have to what do you do all day you play video games or no man I stay on my laptop catch up correspond with people things like that I got that's all I would do okay the story you went to is just a corner store like a grocery store yeah okay near the house yeah go so but in the last two days you've pretty much been at your mom's house or just like area yeah like Walgreens go places like that places you can walk to uh places they they don't mind taking me or I don't mind hiking or something like that like jog or something like that what you what you do for fun man if you're here for long periods with not having to work I mean what do you you just sit at the house come you don't just sit at the parents house come on man you can call them and ask them what I do I mean I might play basketball for the most part I might read a book or something like that my life's pretty boring man I got you I did all of the sleeping around stuff does your mom work um no she she stays at home she's retired for the last couple days she've been at home yeah was it did you did you tell us your mom's name I don't remember her name is sandal sandela Sandy s sandella yeah Sandy okay what's your last saying Al heline alhim yes okay how do you spell her first name uh s a n d e l l a you understand why we're having this conversation does it make sense at least I mean you have children together who's the first person you're going to start with a lot of times in a situation like this the person that you would consider to be closest to that person and if you don't consider yourself to be the closest person to her then obviously I want your help trying to figure out who would be I mean when it comes down to it I would like to think and I do believe that I'm the closest to her but I see her the least out of everybody right um she didn't she didn't relocate with me when I left and I only see her for days at a time she knows that I don't really drive like that so I don't know what she had going going especially um especially being the last time when we saw each other was last week last time I saw was like last Saturday and it doesn't concern you that your own son is saying that Daddy hurt Mommy I mean you really think it does it does it does concern me but I know that my son he's like BJ has a he wouldn't like if she had had another man around and he might say it around another man depending on what she has going on as a man it sucks to have to say that but I have to be real with my I have to be honest with myself so how sure are you that the baby was going to be yours I mean she's my girl man like Armstrong has had to make a tough decision with his story either say that there was no problem with their relationship and have his son's words used against him or tell them that he thinks young may have been cheating which gives him a possible motive we would have gotten to that point we weren't at that point yet we were at the point where we were just going through pregnancy I wasn't concerned about if it was mine or if it wasn't I know that I stay a th000 miles away could be somebody sleeping over there every night but but I don't know that okay that's what I was to say she would never tell me she could be talking to her seeing someone else but you don't know she would never tell me that and you've never caught her on the phone or showed up at the apartment unannounced and found another dude there nothing like that I don't I don't try to um I don't try to overly intrude I try to trust her you know a lot of times in the past I used to talk about cheating and stuff like that but she would um those weren really the best conversations that we would have but I know that she did deal with other guys outside of me in the past but I did the same thing as well right when you said pay bills earlier what kind of like how much of the bills you you paying rent you just buying some groceries throwing earn a little bit of money here and there like how do that work uh I have the account statement so no that's what I'm saying like was it a set amount this past month this past month I think I gave her like maybe like 13,400 um the month before that I gave it like a couple of grand so that's quite a bit the month before that you know because I it's not just my it's my f you know what I mean like she had something was that pretty consistent every month giving her a th000 $2,000 um for the most part or was it you go long periods of not g i mean is there months where you don't give her anything no no and I told her um you know I have all of these things in my checking I got account and stuff like that so but you know I would overly compensate her sometimes she would miss appropriate the money and she would end up having to ask me for more stuff I know she asked her mother to U pay her rent or something like that but I had already given her enough money to do it so so there's nothing to do the court she don't have you on any kind of papers or anything like that no no no okay y'all just always kind of worked it out amongst yourself yeah let take care of everything okay all right Mr Armstrong do give do me a favor right just give me a few minutes sit tight go um do you do you know off the top of your head phone numbers for Dale and Sandy uh no I don't they in your phone uh yeah they are okay do you know what they're saved under is it Mom and Dad or Dale and S no it's like Mom and Dale mom and Dale um how about um how about tashik what did she say d uh well for this past week it say it's crazy crazy yeah okay I got you all right yeah just give us a minute um if you need anything if you want a snack need to use the restroom just all right Mr okay man all I can say is I'm I apologize taking so long I do appreciate your cooperation all right obviously you understand the gravity of the situation okay um like we spoke with your uh stepfather and you know he was able to verify some of the stuff you were saying about him giving you ride and everything so like I said I appreciate your truth are you being truthful with me um what I got to just keep picking your brain a little bit though about T and just like any little thing you can think of like does she use do you know does she use Instagram Messer M Facebook Messenger I don't know right now I want to do something to somebody about the situation I understand and that's why the why I have you here I know you this is the last place in the world you want to be right now but I'm trying to take advantage of being able to get as much information from you being probably the closest person at least that we know of to her cuz right now you're my only connection to her I mean her her own mother probably still doesn't know as much about her daily life about certain things that like you do cuz I mean when it comes down to it I don't know I didn't have pass words or anything to her phone okay did she ever message you on Facebook Instagram any of that stuff yeah she did okay so y'all so that wasn't out of the ordinary for her to communicate with Facebook Messenger Instagram DMS and all that stuff no what about an app like a messenger app did she use any of those no text now y'all wouldn't have a reason to do that with each other y'all just text each other right I mean but we would still use social media to to do it because everybody used social media I got you the uh what about the 994 number you've used before what is that that's a old T-Mobile number a old T-Mobile number that phone has been cut off since okay you know what I cut that phone off and cut the Verizon phone off so that was back in December probably okay so you haven't used 994 number since last year no 994 6537 I think that's what it was and y'all and did you used to have those two numbers concurrently or you cancel 994 I canel one I got 646 yeah okay um have you been to T Sheik's parents house no but I need to go over there no no no I'm just saying ever like have y'all ever gone over you like family dinner and Stu like that yeah yeah did they bring my phone in uh I think he's done with or about to be done with that's what we're kind of waiting on now cuz right now there's there's like you cooperating with the phone and letting us do that also can exonerate you you know your location history shows that you're here not there when something happens that kind of stuff makes you look good okay all right so that's why I was asking you for your consent to do that okay that's fine because if your phone's way over here in middleberg or something and something's happening way you know up on the North side then understood you know what I'm saying so um I guess whatever works well cuz nor people I mean not very many people are without their cell phones yeah that's true so um what else did I want to hit on did she work uh well I know she used to instacart a little bit and then she was um she was substitute teaching and then she started doing um she became a PA professional okay what do you know what school uh it was holl Elementary and then the school year ended and then she was working at Boys and Girls Club like a summer camp and she just has the one car is it the Volkswagen whatever it is SUV T1 yeah um she pay for that no her mother her mother helped her but I gave her quite a few bucks okay now you you said you were sitting here quite a good one per month um like she stayed she stayed like 3 miles away from her parents right what was the last thing you knew her to be doing to make money if you weren't giving her money like I'm not sure like a school's being out right now so she's not so was she still instaart do you know uh she would talk about instacart you know with instacart people go to different locations and stuff like that so she would talk about that but outside of that you know I'm not sure I wasn't trying to um track her down or anything you know I wasn't asking her to turn the location on and stuff but she would give me her location sometimes though is there anything you can think of that you thought of while you been sitting here that might help us out I think that I know she had some neighbors who stay in her building but I don't really know what they were into they just looked a little shyy to me but any distinct features about anybody that hangs around in that building or those apartment that you can think of weird tattoos anything Miss point I mean you you know a lot of different things take place in that complex that I've witnessed and me you just I just right there around her apartment building like anything nothing never stood out to you did you ever sit outside and I saw some guys fighting out there before were you like I mean you smoke cigars yeah I do do you stand outside to do that like outside the apartment or yeah I smoke cigarettes do you ever witness Neighbors coming and going like I mean yeah nothing stood out to you about any of the neighbors a few of them looked a little different she had one neighbor that didn't like me um she stayed above her but I think she had a crush on my girlfriend because she had a girlfriend that lived with her so I think you know it was a dark skinned girl with dreads and stuff like that you never really had much interaction with him no one day she kind of one day she cursed me out I was um I was on my laptop and she thought that I looked at a girlfriend so she cursed me out no I wasn't looking at a girlfriend who lives in the apartment across from tashika um I think it's a lady just a lady but I know it's like some I know she has like three or four Sons or maybe that that's their friends I know they smoke there a man that comes and goes from there I would know they haven't seen any other dudes that like live right there in her little building that you can think of one of the guys had a whole lot of tattoos okay um a couple tattoos on on his face on his face you know remember what apartment he was in I know he stayed um I know he stayed on the floor above her above he black or white it was a black guy so he had was he like thin or yeah thin muscular then there was another guy who um what kind of do you remember what kind of tattoos he had on his face no I don't okay but then they had another guy it was like a group of guys like three or four of them they were smoking in the um hallway and stuff like that and just kind of do their own thing you know when it comes to stuff like I just try to walk away from my my business bu my business all those guys did they live all did they all live together I think one of them used to always be a visitor but I remember there was a lot of different interaction um as far as people who they would see and stuff like that I got you um what made you go over there today I know you said sometimes y'all would go a day or so without talking if she was mad and it sounded like things kind of in there where she might have been a little bit mad last night so what made you like what told you to get a ride and go over there this afternoon I called her about 30 times and she hasn't responded to me since she didn't respond to me since last night then I text her this morning and she didn't respond to me this morning either and you know normally whenever I ask her something about the kids is or if I say something to her she responds so I asked her mom to um just tell her to call me or something like that I thought maybe she might have been upset but normally she gets over the small stuff M and you know she still didn't reach out to me so that was kind of like let me see what's going on I got you all right so nothing else came to your mind as far as being able to help us out with who what direction to go something like at want to work with you guys on so I appreciate well let me go see about your phone all right hang out for a few more I know this like I said I know this is taking a while but it's easier to do this now to try to chase you down back in bring you back in and at least I'm like getting everything I need I could possibly need from you now you know what I'm saying instead of me having to keep trying to Hound you and coming to your parents and looking for you calling you yes I appreciate it Mr armr yes all right let's let's talk let's a little bit more listen up so straight up there's some messages on the between you and tashik that are concerning all right to say the least all right I mean there's stuff involving guns being put to heads and all that just within the past couple weeks what's that all about knives oh knives all yeah she was she was a little violent so what did she do uh she pulled a knife out on me while I was holding my daughter okay one day and I had a well it was it wasn't even a real gun it was like a fake gun what kind of fake gun was it U it was like a BB gun it was like a BB gun what what kind of like what did it have markings on it did it say it was it was something that was store by it was a BB gun but she tried to make it look like it wasn't did it have an orange tip yeah it had orange it was it's just a BB gun yeah did it have like a removal like was it modeled after a gun I don't even know what kind it was but I'm not violent but me and her we why would she be sending you text saying that you pulled a gun on her I mean it was a it's a BB gun you positive about that yeah I know what' you do with the BB gun I was probably still in her apartment well I mean when you were there what' you do with it oh I pulled it out and I I didn't put it to an when young told her mother about the incident she said he used a gun Armstrong is trying to make the situation seem less violent than it was but even a BB gun could have done damage at close range you didn't no I didn't why pull it out um because I I felt threatened I didn't have a real gun on me do you remember what kind of gun that you reported stolen back in January yeah it was a uh it was a Glock do you know what kind um it was a 43x 43x do you know what caliber that is yeah it's like a nine it's a nine yes so in the picture messages that she sent you on your phone it's not a BB gun it doesn't have an orange tip and on the side you want to guess what it says what it says Glock 43x yeah but the thing about that gun I haven't seen that gun since January and the um the BB gun that I pulled out I don't think that she had a picture of it but I know that that gun is probably why would you even pull out a gun I mean she pulled a she pulled a knife out on me when did this happen that was that might have been like a month ago we talked earlier about stuff like that you didn't mention anything like that yeah I didn't call the authorities or anything about it I mean she didn't want to call the authorities either because she felt like it would have been child endangerment well no doubt it's child endangerment knives and guns are being pulled with kids in the apartment yeah but the uh but she had like a 22 I want to say it was like a LR or something like that but she's clearly telling you in the messages you don't care about me you pulled a gun twice I think it says and put it through her head no it was a it was just a Babb she told her mom about it too yeah I know I didn't really mention the knife but if you look in the text thread you'll see I mean y'all got a violent history no but if you look at the text thread you'll see that um you'll see that I trust me we looked and the common theme in that text read is a lot of violence yeah I was not I was non abusive though I didn't well she's claiming that you were putting a gun to her head and she's got a picture of a gun that matches the same gun that you reported so but but the gun I think the gun the picture of the gun that she had was probably like a older picture because the BB the date on it's the nth yeah but or just two weeks ago no but the thing about an iPhone is people like and I've seen her do it that's how I learned about that type of stuff iPhones you could change the date of a picture through the app not even through the app just through the phone why would she do that I mean she does stuff like that that's just like she said that if you look at a lot of her messages you'll see that a lot of the stuff was manipulative and she said a lot of different stuff that was contradicting who was the girl you were seeing 5 years ago before before her uh before you got a relationship with t who were you seeing probably my kid's Mall my first kid M what's her name her name is seantavius all right who someone between her and tashika uh Malika a girl starts thing with a why her name starts with a y why there's a police report from 2017 with you and another one oh yaria there you go yakara you got a history man no but yaria um I remember when she put her hands on me um this was over on the North side yeah but everything you said so far is you're the victim no but my thing is when when did you kick the door in I didn't kick a door you've never done damage to the apartment when you went no the bedroom door I um that was when she pulled the knife on me the bedroom door I pushed it open and I paid to get it fixed so if she pulled a knife on you why did you push the bedroom door open no I had the BB gun and stuff like that because I was holding my daughter when she pulled a knife on me and I told her I was like you know that's like child Benjamin XYZ I said a whole lot of different things to her but I never but I haven't seen the uh so walk me through this she pulled a knife on you while you were holding your kid yeah and then what did you do um I pul she still helding and I pul I didn't have a real weapon so I pulled out a um grab the BB gun you grabbed the BB gun yeah from where I grabbed it well I had it in a bag you had it in a bag yeah and then where did you pushing the door and come and all this um it was really I really didn't p Push the door in I really didn't push it in we were kind of she kind of tried to shove me a little bit but I didn't want to put my hands on her and that was kind of partially one of the reasons why I started stand over in middleberg after that incident that's why you're kind of dancing around this first you said you paid to have the door fixed now you're saying you didn't push the door I paid to have it fixed because she doesn't have the money to pay for her and they would have so how did the door get broken the door got broken because she and I we we were like right in front of the door and I was trying to she had the knife I had a BB gun I was worried about the knife a BB gun that you got out of her bag yeah did you bring the bag was the bag there no my bag was already over there but I didn't have I didn't have a real gun and I wasn't about to pull a knife on her um I had set my kids to the side and stuff like that she's pretty specific in that message that she sent you two weeks ago with the picture of the glot 43x saying this is the same gun you put in my head twice no that's that's not true well that's what she's telling you the thing about her is when I pulled it when I had the black BB gun really was spray pained when I pulled it out she was kind of um she was kind of shocked by it but I had to just I had to kind of scare her off I did it to scare her off yeah but that's the picture is not of a BB gun that's not that's a GL 43 no but any picture that she'll have it would be of something that is around her like when I reported that gun stolen I probably I don't know what she did with it when I reported it but I you tell her in the text like hey why do you still have a picture of that gun I thought it was stolen no I mean I'm just no give me just a second let me grab that F real quick we'll go through some of these texts cuz this isn't making any sense whatsoever all right yeah I wouldn't say anything about well you going to have to help us make sense of this because this is like a lot more violent than what you initially led us to believe had occurred between y'all I mean she she'll tell you that I'm not I'm not violent understand that but well you said that earlier that y'all basically just kind of verbally argue yeah just like with the knife incident I didn't feel the need to tell yeah but your chance earlier to disclose that was then and now here we are having to confront you that's not the case looking at the phone I understand you made it sound like verbal arguments okay was the only thing that y'all had had before yeah and now we're seeing pictures involving guns guns being put in people's heads you're saying she's pulled a knife on you while you were holding your child I mean that's way more than verbal arguing I mean but at the end of the day I know that I wouldn't do anything to her like even when it came down to it me and her we could have most couples would probably fist fight or something like that I still didn't put my hands on her um when she pulled a knife on me I didn't have any type of weapon and I know she had a 22 I know she had like a 22 gun but I didn't know where she kept it so I I grabbed a BB gun that was like the quickest thing but I didn't tell my parents about the incident I didn't let anybody know about it you go by BJ right yeah BJ listen to me stuff's starting to not add up man I understand but I didn't do anything to I mean we've talked to her mother of course you can imagine okay I understand she's very close with her mother you know that definitely so pretty much everything that's happened between y'all she's disclosed to her mother and some of the stuff that her mother informed us about matches up to exactly what's on the phone between you I understand but even when it comes down to it I never called my parents in regards to a knife or anything or a gun um when it came to her parents I never reached out to them about it I would just remove myself from the situation like the day that happened I think that might have been one of the last days that I was over there have you ever pulled out a gun on her uh not a real one but you pulled out a BB gun yeah I pulled out a BB gun why were you carrying a BB gun around with you I mean because you know I might go outside and shoot some pellets or something like that come on man I mean seriously you going to go to her apartment no I mean because and Sh us out the apartment the thing I mean not really outside but like in the grass in the wooded area there's a wooded area over there I shoot little pill and stuff like well let's just run through a couple things and you explain it to us cuz right now like I said it's not making sense so this is from the 9th which was two weeks ago she's saying that you tore the family apart this is trauma for our kids kids I'm so hurt I the same she's talking about signing the rights over which I can only imagine would infuriate you because you said you love your kids what about a gun being put to my head twice you took my car keys what was that all about I didn't take a car keys okay she's just saying that for fun yeah I know she was trying to take the kids and stuff but at that point once she pulled a knife out on me I by by her pulling a knife out on me while I was holding my daughter I felt like she would have did anything and I also knew that she had a weapon so I moved the keys but I gave her car keys back to her I told her I was just like I'm about to leave cuz I couldn't drive so is that why you broke the door down no no no no we almost got into a tussle but we didn't that was me like because she was poking at me and I was kind of trying to like push her away a little bit but I didn't want to I so how do you break a door doing that that doesn't make much sense you can't really you don't really break it but you know if you have a door like pre-lock and you know if you push it it was like that okay so the door was shut or open it was like she both of us we were like tugging it I she's on the back side of the door you're on no I I had went into the bedroom so you were in the bedroom she's in the hallway yeah okay and then you're trying to shut the door a little bit and she's trying to open the door yeah cuz I was trying to grab the kids cuz you trying to grab the kids cuz she's coming at you with a knife is what you're saying exactly okay well then why did she [Music] say then I walked away you followed me into my room and broke the door I ran into the bathroom to hide and you put a gun to my head that's not true okay well you didn't act you didn't say that's not true no she did that but you didn't say that's not true here that's in a in a text message I'm not going to go back and forth in a text message like so you said I'm a grown man don't pull a weapon out on me while I have my child yeah BJ when you went in that room last night you got on top of her and she's in that bed you pulled out that gun in what room her bedroom what are you talking about there's a bullet hole through her pillow there's bullet holes in her how many times did she get shot got your children's Mother man did she what' I tell you earlier there's two ways people go in this situation how many times did she get shot you're trying to save yourself right now BJ no I'm being honest you're more worried about yourself than you are this no I'm worried about me getting like I'm worried about going you haven't been there 24/7 for these kids she has no I provide for my children that's fine you monetarily but you're not there for them day in and day out she is absolutely I am she's not there anymore but because of what happened between y'all last night I didn't do anything to were that's not true I promise you lied already to me I haven't even been over there gave you your chance earlier to come I have not been over there I have not been there you sat there and told me verbal altercations verbal this verbal that yeah but I told you that now you're admitting that she's pulled knives you pulled out of this no but also in my statement I told you I said that most couples go through it I said I'm not one to I understand that but I gave you a chance earlier I've been very respectful with you yeah I'm being honest with you as well but but you you hit stuff cloes all this early my first time going to that apartment complex since last week was today when I showed up over there I have not been over there so regardless of what type of altercation she and I have regards how it goes I haven't seen her in a week I haven't been there you look at my phone um you said something about locations and stuff like that I haven't left middleberg at all well interesting all your locations recently have been deleted so we can't see your recent what do you me been deleted they're not there it doesn't go back until like the 14th is your last history so if you've been have you used your phone since the 14th that today's the 24th yeah I'm always in middleberg so in 10 in 10 days have you used this phone at all yes okay so when you if you look at our text messages it'll tell you that I haven't like we talked about the fact that I haven't been going over there okay well you were there as recently as the 9th when this all happened so she's apparently got screen grabs we're downloading her phone right now too and then all of the deleted stuff that's on that was on here we'll get we got on the download we're just waiting on that to come back on the disc and we'll see all that all right this is your chance to separate yourself remember what I said earlier there's there's situations where people find themselves in good people find themselves in a bad situation where they momentarily lose control hold on and then there's beyond that true evil there's cold blooded killers that can kill someone in Cold Blood and then lie about it all right so how do you want to be seen I haven't done anything I know that the last time I saw so she's just accusing you between the two of y'all she didn't call police so she's not trying to set you up with us no no no my thing is couples go at it all the time different things different things take verb we acknowledge that earlier yeah yeah guns and knives yeah but she and I that that was those were just things that happened between she and myself it even says in there she'll tell you like I'm not V she says in the met I know cuz we talked about it we agreed that I'm not a violent person I wouldn't do anything to her well I see I don't see that that you're not violent in here I see right here she says all I see is you putting a gun to my head and I think I have PTSD from all the things you've put me through I'm done and you say I I saw that my life was in danger when you pulled out a knife on me and made me grab my gun so you're I mean you're acknowledging here that you grabbed your gun yeah but it wasn't but it wasn't a real gun but just just below this she sends a picture of the knife and she sends a picture of your gun which is a Glock 43x but that's not even that's that that Glock 43x she had pictures what happened over there 24 hours ago no I I haven't been there Armstrong likely didn't give much thought to the details when he decided to kill young if he had he may have considered the damaging evidence that could be on her phone and chosen a method that at least didn't directly TI him to the murder weapon you can ask the residents you can whatever you have to do I haven't been there the first time that I got there was today I have not been there honestly what went down in that apartment last night I don't know I text her this morning I text her this afternoon I didn't even know that anything had even happened at the apartment until you stuff earlier because a lot of times that's that's private couple stuff yeah but we're sitting in here talking about your children's Mother who's been murdered and blood when I know that I'm not guilty of something I shouldn't have to disclose the details of my relationship you disclose everything you can to let us know like hey these are the incidents that occur we spoke about specific incidents between on and you acknowledge that everything had been verbal there had never been physical violence yeah for the most part that's physical violence that's y speaking about back but we but none of us we never put our hands on each other and you said the last time you called the police on her or something about some I mean she pull she pul she pulled a life on me you remember taking that have you seen that picture yeah I remember that picture okay were you there when she took that picture um no I wasn't no are you familiar with live photos yeah okay do you know what happens when I hold my thumb down on a live photo show and it does audio too yeah right I think I record a whole video you hear that the knife you girl that's the knife you tried to stab me with right so if you weren't there taking the photo then how's your voice on there saying girl that's the knife you tried to stab me with I mean it's a it's a lot of video clips with her doing stuff in right well this is what I'm saying this is during that incident on the ninth when she tried when she had the knife right she's taking a well yeah you're taking a picture with that you're holding it down yeah that's the knife you that's the knife that you tried to do what but then on that same counter I mean you see all that stuff there's that purple candle it looks like or something there's a green there's a little green bag right there and everything like that now and some Dawn okay I see the Dawn dishwashing detergent the little green thing and what looks like a c like a purple candle or something right there now do you see anything that looks like a green bag a Dawn dishwashing detergent or a candle in this photo one more time what's the difference in those photos well I'm talking about when I'm looking at the photo of the knife that with your voice then that's the that's the picture of the knife that you sent her on the ninth I see on the counter I'll zoom in so you can see it it too that means that there's the dawn right that means that and there's there's the candle and there's that green bag and right next to that green bag do you see that right next to that green bag in the dawn that's on the same counter as that knife that means that the gun wasn't in my possession right but it's it's a Glock 43x you see that Glock 43x that means that that gun wasn't in my possession that's what it right it wasn't might not have been not on this it's on the counter in that picture right but that picture is from the same day that y'all are texting about her threatening you with a knife with your voice girl that's the knife and everything on the counter hold on let me finish let me finish like how does she do stuff like you can change the date on the picture with the phone sure you can change the date on the picture on the phone but how has she taken a picture of the Glock back in January 7 months ago with the same green thing that looks like a cop like a folders or some kind of coffee thing the same dish detergent the same stuff on the counter as the stuff on the knife seven months later I don't know okay you understand it's not going to be he and I judging you right I understand but I understand so how do you want to be judged you going to be judged as a man who got caught up in his emotions with having some sort ofation with I want be no I want to be judged as an honest man because I know that I didn't do anything or as the cold blooded killer who left his children's Mother laying there in Cold Blood with his kids and the apartment with her and left I didn't to save yourself I didn't do anything like that what time did you leave there last night I wasn't there last night okay where's the gun I don't even have that gun do you love your kids absolutely AB absolutely would you leave them there by themselves from 2:00 in the morning until 700 p.m. the next day with their dead mother laying right there is that how you found my kids laying on their dead mother they were land on her BJ you shot with shot with the same Glock that you have that you threaten with two weeks ago y'all didn't tell me that you need to tell us man I didn't do anything I wasn't there I wasn't there I don't even have that gun where's it at mean I wouldn't know you're trying to make it sound like you don't have a history of violence and all that but you do with other women I don't with your own family your grandma trespassed you when did you trespass why' your mom get you trespassed from your own grandmother's house in just in October uh my mom has a a issue do you do you hear yourself you're putting your everything is on everybody else so you're your first baby mama with a 5-year-old has an issue the in between girlfriend has an issue that's got a report against you your current girl's got an issue with you know that causes you to put guns to her head your Armstrong falls into the typical pattern of abusers blaming everyone else for his own actions he likely believes his own lies and is genuinely frustrated that the detectives don't see the situation from his point of view your own Mother's got an issue that causes her to trespass you so do you see the common denominator I got four different people all have an issue with the same one person I understand but when it comes to my mother my mom well not just your mother your mother my mom has multiple scaros I only have two um my kids when it comes to yakara yakara got violent with me because she used to be like a where your self- accountability I'm being I'm being accountable but you're not you're blaming it on no you guys are trying to say that I was in a place where I you guys trying to say that I was in a place where I wasn't and you're trying to say that I had a gun that I didn't have and you're looking at we're looking at the text messages from a manipulative woman and you're trying to make sure you definitely you definitely hid stuff from us I'm saying but you didn't bring up anything about guns and knives earlier no but when it came down to it in my statement I said that yeah we had disagreements and things like that specifically asked you about violence and physical and you said no none of that well maybe one time there was a time she pulled a knife a year ago or something I think I had to call me I mean that's a year ago this is this is two weeks ago I understand but I didn't want to I didn't want to mention that because you didn't want to mention the whole part of you putting a gun to her head no I just didn't want to I didn't want I you're in self-preservation no I didn't want I didn't want try yourself right now no I'm really not because at the end of the day of course I'm going to save myself but at the end of the day I know that I wasn't there I I I wasn't I didn't even know what happened I text her at I text her around 10 something last night and I text her like I never left I I don't even have a car you have me convince there for a minute man I came in here he did it then after talking to you okay he's being stri okay maybe yeah but I don't come on man you can't how do you explain that I'm being honest like that's a Glock 43x my thing is she probably had I mean right let's say she manipulated the phone no no no but no but even when I reported it stolen when I reported that gun stolen I think that I think that she had a guy that she was talking to and I think that she gave it to him originally another time she had a gun she had a 22 but you never refuted here you never refute that you that was you never refute that you put a gun to her head all these times that she claims it you never refute that you weren't there you never refute that that's a gun that was gone months ago but at that point she and I we had already been talking to each other we had still been around each other we were still going around each other so I really didn't feel the need like in a text message sometimes you can look at a person being manipulative or being overly objective or something like that or making up something or wagging their tail and you just choose to look over it because at the end of the day whenever she would text me she would try to show up to somebody to make it look like I did something and a lot of those times I never did when it came down to my children you manipulated me I didn't manipulate anybody you're manipulated no I'm being honest you have all these altercations and all these incidents with different women including your own mother me and my mother have never really been in any true altercations called the police and had you trespass from your own grandmother's house the only time the only reason she did that was because and I'm having to confront the the I'm having to conf you all these no no when it came to that she and I like I didn't do anything but I didn't really have anywhere to stay at that point and I had a lot going on and she was was my mom has multiple sceris multiple sclerosis she called um law enforcement on my 12-year-old brother as well so you know I kind of want to leave my mom's medical history out of it but she knows that she was kind of going through it a little bit so at the end of the day you're just a victim in all this no I'm not a victim in all of it but that's what to make it make no but I know where I was and I know where I wasn't and I know that last night I prom probably went to sleep at around I probably went to sleep at around maybe 11:00 and when did you wake up maybe around 7 something did you wake up anytime in between those two times um yeah I think you know every time you know you argue with somebody text them in the middle of the night see if they all right stuff like that texture in the middle of the night I believe so I always do after 11 and before seven PJ more than likely a man who got caught up in an emotional moment cold buy killer I wasn't over there and I didn't do it you pick which category you want to go in I didn't do it I can't do it for you you pick it I I didn't do it I mean at the end of the day you're going to have to justifying your own mind and I wasn't there how you left your two kids there what did she do what happened last night what did she do to I wasn't there last night I wasn't there last night I didn't even know what happened where's the key earlier you said I think I have a where's the key to her apartment that you said you have um I think it's over at my um I think it's like in one of my bags where at home more than likely why would you come over there to day to her apartment without the key I wasn't at her apartment you got a ride from your stepdad to the apartment day why would you come to her apartment without the key I did get a ride from my step I didn't get a ride from anybody how'd you get there today earlier my stepdad took me over there I just said that you just said you didn't get a ride but I couldn't even why did you come over there why would you get your stepdad to drive you all the way from middleberg to her apartment and not bring the key that you have to her apartment with you oh because anytime if you were worried something was wrong with her no no because anytime I go we we you going to do when you got there we weren't having bad blood like what were you going to do when you got there without a key knock on the door knock on the door me and her we weren't having like she and I we can argue with each other and we'll still see one another just like with that situation when she pulled that knife on me we were fine you came over there worried something was wrong because you hadn't been able to get a hold of her you've got two young kids in that apartment and if there's something wrong with her you wouldn't bring a key to get in there to check on your kids do you see how many times I called and text her before I showed up do you see the message that I sent her mother when I asked her when I was concerned I'm not fooled by it no my thing is when I when I got out there I thought that I was going to be able to walk up to the door and just knock on the door why would I even have my stepdad come into a a situation where there's any type of way out of this I'm not lying I'm skirting around everything everything that we're bringing up you're skirting around you did not bring up any of this this is this is out of everything we've talked about tonight guns and knives being pulled and messages like that as recent as two do that type of stuff all the time nobody ever gets hurt if I had the [ __ ] flag right now I'd plop it right down on the table in front of you that's not true I'm being so honest I have never put a gun to any of my a BB gun you know you can we know it's not a BB gun we know it's that Glock 4 but she no she is violent she is violent she might be I pulled out a BB gun when it comes down to that nine you and you carried the BB gun around over there because you like to go outside and shoot pellets in the grass and stuff you said all really one of the guys who stayed in that apartment complex they left it outside and I grabbed it my [ __ ] flag is going to be flying no seriously no seriously come on Ser okay let's say then how did she send a picture let's look look how everything's set on on the counter right now right if I take a picture here's a knife I take a picture of that knife just that knife but you can kind of see all this other stuff right and then I send that you you take that picture but seven months earlier I take a picture instead of this being a knife it's a gun and all this stuff is in the same spot no no no all this stuff is in the same spot on the counter you tell me how that's possible because that's my thing is that's the only type of that's the only thing that she probably would have seen me with at any time throughout our relationship you realize you and I sit in this room all the time and do this for a living you understand this is what we do for a living understood okay so when someone's completely innocent we don't have to worry about [ __ ] like that popping up on the phones we don't have to worry about all the information that was withheld from us early on in just ask her where I was last night ask my mom she just she was asleep I think everybody was she might know where you were at 11 or 12:00 where were you at 2:00 I think that everybody I mean at just call her said she has all kind of mental stuff and health issues going on no she has multiple sclerosis okay but which caused her to trespass you from your grandma's house right my mom had a lot going on in that point you got a lot going on right now you got a lot going on I understood but when it comes down to it everybody was together last night everybody until when uh until about 6 o' this afternoon 6 o' this afternoon was the first time that I left no I left on a bicycle and rode the Walgreens and bought me a lighter earlier today around 2 p.m. and that was in middleberg what about last night last night I probably sat on the patio on the porch and smoked a couple of cigarettes I probably went to sleep until what what time you go to sleep uh I probably went to sleep around 11 11:30 okay and I know I text her I probably went to sleep maybe around 1 I don't know it was late last time I text her between the time I went to sleep it could be a different time but I know I sent her a text I was trying to see if she was awake like hey you up what' you do to your elbow what do you mean got a wound right there on your elbow where' that come from where right there oh that happened you said you play on your laptop and sit in the house all day what you do no this came from the back of that police car when they uh with how the seats are the plastic can you do me a favor can you jump up and take your shirt off [Music] spin around for me you need to tell us what happened over there man I didn't do anything I haven't been there I want to know what happened over there just like you okay so again you came over now we're talking yesterday afternoon okay you got there at what time 5:00 5:30ish not long after we got there uh today you showed up you came from across town knowing in your mind something's wrong something's not right she's not answering the phone I've got my two young kids in there and I can't get hold of her this is not like her it Disturbed you enough that you had your stepdad drive you from middleberg all the way to the north side of Jacksonville but yet you went without the key yeah that doesn't make sense because I mean if you're going to knock on the door she's already not answering the phone if something what if something's wrong with her how you going to get in then at least I would have known that she was home and everything was fine I mean there have been times where she where she gave me a house key where gave me a key to her apartment and then she asked for it back and then she gave it back to me and stuff like that so there would be different times when I would go over there I just knock on the door she open the door so I know I know that if I go over there any time a day and I knock on that door I know she's going to open it why did she tell her mom a couple weeks ago you pulled a gun on her and then Lo and behold y'all have text message exchanges between y'all from a couple weeks ago where she's saying you pull a gun on her and put it to her head my thing is whenever it comes down to um she set all that up when it comes down just to get herself killed no get herself killed by who you tell me my thing is when why did she say you pulled a gun on her to her mom and then tell you the same thing the because it was a BB gun but she doesn't have a photo of where's the BB gun is is it's probably in her apartment her apartment yeah I promise you it's not it's probably well I didn't take it with me what' you do with the clock um I don't even know where it is I never had it once I when I reported it what no once I reported it that was the last time it was in my possession you said she had a 22 earlier and you just mentioned it again earlier you never said anything about her having a Glock 43x no I didn't I told you the Glock 43 the I told you that the Glock 43x was reported back in January but yet here we have pictures of it two weeks ago and then she's claiming this is the very gun that you put to her head with the picture I think she probably changed the date on that because she's changed sometimes she changes the dates on pictures because sometimes when she's out she might say that she's insta caring and I used to make a fuss about I used to I used to look at the times on it and I say you weren't there at that time so she has a habit of adjusting but it's not it's not the date that's one you understand we've gone through this it's not the date I don't know her setup in her apartment her calendar could have had the same stuff on it from that time to that time I don't know that she your children's Mother man she was pregnant with what you assumed to be your third child with her exactly so why would I do something like that she was threatening to kick you out she was threatening she was threatening to take your rights away no you've been working so hard and you've been paying for her and you've been paying for the kids and now she's with someone else she's possibly having a kid with someone else she wants to take your rights away she doesn't want you to be around her kids anymore and you go over there and confront her about it and things you put the gun to her head again no just this past what when was this Wednesday just Wednesday she told me she was like I would never do that um I would never try to terminate your rights and I think she said in the text no no no look at the most recent test the most recent test say that she wants to be she wanted to be a family she I sent I sent her something from TD Jake I sent her something from TD Jak what happened when she filed for the injunction against you she never um she never filed it she was doing that she filed it she might have followed a motion to dismiss it later but she filed for an injunction I I was supposed to file one as well you didn't mention that earlier either I was supposed to file one why didn't you mention any of this stuff earlier I didn't mention um file filing the paperwork on the other stuff I mean at the end of the day what did you think I was looking for earlier I mean trying to see where I was if I had like just trying to see who committed who committed the murder I didn't even know that tell the first starting point always is you the person closest to her the person that's got the most emotional tie to her understood but because emotions can lead to some pretty crazy things happening why does anybody walk in this room that's married to someone or has kids with someone that's just killed him yeah but and lie about it yeah but I haven't I haven't been over there I have not been over there I'm looking for the same thing that you're looking for and it just seems to well you can leave your phone at home and go do something that makes it look like you weren't there that's I mean I'm not why in the hell would I do that why does anybody do anything because if I were to go to her apartment and if I don't have a key or something on me I would need my phone so I can call them that's like when I showed up today you know what the name of this case is going to be my file daddy shot Mommy that's not right daddy shot Mommy that's not right so the three-year-old's lying on you too my three-year-old your kids lying on you too you've already accused multiple women your mother your three-year-old and your 2-year-old that from 2 a.m. until 700 p.m. tonight or by themselves you know why you got snatched up when you showed up earlier you know why those officers snatched you up so quick why because daddy shot mommy daddy killed Mommy I I don't think that that is true you don't think that's true I don't think that my son said that Armstrong may be in denial but his son's testimony matches with the rest of the evidence during the trial the jury were unable to believe Armstrong's excuses for the child's accusation he did got on a recorded interview think that he said not only that but her entire family said knows y'all's history know you've kicked in the door know you've held a gun to know you been violent to your past girlfriend that starts with a y know you've been violent with your past baby mama with a 5-year-old know you've been violent with your own family to make your own mom trespass you from your grandma's house I never know that you been violent I haven't been violent against my mother and I haven't been violent against her either even when it came down to it if you really look at the whole if you look at everything that I am looking at everything I'm looking at your history with four different individuals that have all had issues with you stuff with yakara when she put I'm talking about yakara skirting around I'm going down the list no you're making an excuse for I'm not no I'm not making an excuse but I'm telling the truth cool [ __ ] Yari I don't care about your Cari tell me why your three-year-old son said Daddy shot M tonight I do not know I was not there I have not I haven't been I haven't been in Jacksonville city lines since I left Mission Point last week and my mother you can call my mother and she can let you haven't been or your phone hasn't been one more time you have not been or your phone hasn't been I haven't been why don't you have any location history on your phone since July 14th why is it there up until July 14th and then it's not I don't know just call my mom I I don't know we talk to your mom all right she know what what you did after 11: that night she went to bed I don't have a car your dad went to bed well that that didn't stop you from getting all around the time all the time July 14th was last week right that's the last time you said you were there your phone shows that you already knew that when you told me that that you had deleted up till then that's why you said that no that's not why I said that you know your phone wasn't with you last night when you went over back over there and to confront her to do whatever it I had my phone next to me last night my phone was next to me while I was left no I didn't leave at all why would I leave without my cell phone why would I leave without my cell phone because you knew what you were going to do seriously why would I leave without my cell phone why' you leave with a Glock 43x I didn't even have a gun how did that gun go missing in January and then it resurface on the same day that she's claiming that you're holding a gun to your head because that you're taking a video of a knife that she threatened you with on the same counter with the same items that the gun is sitting on that you claim is some big coincidence no because she doesn't have a picture of a BB she doesn't have a picture of the BB gun right she's got a picture of a Glock 43x same how is that the same gun that went missing six seven months ago I understand is now on her counter when you talk about two weeks ago when you talk about you held a gun to your head I understand but her door got broken I understand but when you talk about the staging of everything people leave things set up in a certain type of order on their counters all the time so I can't help if like I don't stay there I don't I can't say if she had a green box or a blue box she some people set that stuff up a certain type of way and she was one of those types of people when it comes down you understand how big of a coincidence that is and just how silly you sound right now I don't I don't I'm not in Jacksonville enough for a gun to be there you're an educated man we are too okay the difference is we do this for a living you don't so we recognize when it smells like [ __ ] it's probably [ __ ] understood okay understood your story and everything you said earlier did okay I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you failed to mention some pretty crucial stuff I mean at the end of the day you tried to paint this picture like they all just have normal little arguments it gets verbal you noral that's not normal I mean but we weren't nobody was fighting we weren't putting our hands on pulling BB guns out but we weren't putting our hands send pictures back and forth of knives and guns yeah but even even in the text messages she'll say that yeah thank you that thank you I'm glad that you aren a violent person because she knows that I would never put my hands on her busting doors down I mean come on yeah but look she said she has PTSD because of the things that you've done she would say anything held a gun to her head tce say anything do you know what she said right before she got shot don't do this I love you Daddy H Mommy uh do you know that that's a that's an apartment it's a three-story apartment complex with adjoining walls you think no one heard so so if she said that you think no one heard a boom you think no one heard the door so she had a guy so she had a guy outside of me that's what you're saying she I'm saying you I wasn't there I wasn't there okay earlier I was believing you I don't believe you anymore I wasn't there that's the truth cold blooded killer I'm not well we thought it was a Heat of the Moment maybe an accident some kind of passion thing cuz that's understandable you lose your temper you're about to lose your family you've been working so hard that's one thing that's understandable I I can understand how that can happen I is a cold blooded killer that can shoot someone that loves them that says please don't shoot me I love you don't do this then leaves their two and three-year-old in a room for over 12 hours with their dead mother by themselves goes back home and acts like nothing's happened that's what I don't understand that's the proof that I didn't do it because I would never leave my 2-year-old and my I would never leave my one-year-old and my three-year-old anywhere by themselves and the simple fact that I wasn't there shows that that if that's what was said it shows that she probably she was probably dealing with somebody else I haven't been there in over a week and even and even when you look at my locations and everything like that yeah cuz you deleted them how can I delete my location deleted everything after the last time you were there which you told us about I didn't delete delete what delete my location how do you how do you delete your location from your phone a lot of you understand how many people have sat in that very chair and tried to run the same game you're trying to run no don't phones link up to Towers in certain areas don't don't the towers pick them up or something like that and you can tell the vicinity and stuff like that so I don't hide my location from my phone just look at everything just just look at it and you came all the way over there knowing something was wrong without the key to even getting the apartment because if I knock on the door I've been trying to get contact with all day okay so you can't get contact Mak you believe she's going to open the door no but I called her mom and when I called her mom and I was like hey um just tell T she to call me and her mom was like all right and I didn't hear anything from her mom and I still got work because I have kids from her I didn't plan on really being in Jacksonville that much longer so I wanted to make sure everything was all right once I got to the scene I still didn't know what was going on until you know I asked you guys I asked different police officers and they said that they couldn't tell me what happened um do you know until I spoke to a detective you know she told her mom about you that you were a one person one minute and a completely totally different violent person the next minute she was the same and you have all the history that shows up she would say including the history with her she would say anything I can't really that's what you're doing right now no but even in a text message she she's like overly manipulative when it came down to it you just walk around with a BB gun just cuz you might feel like going outside and shooting pellets no no I didn't no no no no I didn't walk around with it I didn't walk around with it but you just happen to have it when she threatened you with a knife no one of the guys left it on the steps the same day no no no no not that same day how did you just happen to have it to pull it out on her when she pulled a knife on you because once I took I think I grabbed it you think I think I grabbed it a whilei to that you don't specifically remember having to pull a gun on your own children's Mother and get a knife pull on a b gun that's not something that specifically I it was a BB gun she I don't even think that she it was a Glock 43x that she took a picture of the same day the same Glock 43 what I'm saying is I don't even think that she knew that it was a BB gun until I said that you said that had an orange tip yeah but no it it was spray painted but you're saying that now before you said it had an orange tip no I told you it was and that one is not a BB gun that's a Glock 43x so you can read but no but what you're saying about the Glock 43x I told you that she probably that's probably an older photo people change dates on those pictures just so things add up not only is Armstrong wrong about being able to change the dates but it made no sense for young to do so as far as she knew that was a conversation between the two of them that no one else would ever see is that a gun at your house I don't I don't have that gun okay are you good with us searching your house and your room and everything like that to make sure that gun's not there that's fine we can go now where's the key at to the apartment uh it's probably at home okay I don't know I I was in a rush but I know that you know it's the daytime I can um you know it's the daytime I can knock on the door or something like that or ring the doorbell that's why when I saw the scene I called her I sat there because they were like oh we're not letting anybody else in unless you're a true resident I sat there for a while calling her so to see if she'll answer the phone so I can kind of skip through so stuff like that and I went to bed who you give the gun to I don't have the gun I don't even know where it went the BB gun oh the BB gun the BB gun should have been in her apartment I mean something like that I would just leave it in there I don't know what she it could still be in there she might have did something with it she might have gave it away I don't know the company that she keeps I don't I don't I don't live in Jacksonville so for me to try and sit and count who she has around her and what object she exchanges with so after you after you held this BB gun to her head you just left the BB gun there when you left yeah I did so you made her think it was a real gun and actually actually I tucked it in a drawer tucked it in a drawer left it wasn't it wasn't any use to me um like in the K not in the kitchen I put it somewhere high so kids couldn't get to it there what drawer is high she there like there was a drawer where there would be like pots and pants there was another drawer where so the gun you wanted to make her think is real that she thought was real that you held your head she she just P she just she panic she panicked she panicked I tried to scare out because I knew I knew that she had that 22 that's like with the 22 I saw that on her part man I didn't take pictures of that but I knew she had it and I just she would cuz she didn't hold it to your head and threaten no but what she would do is anytime me and her would get into arguments and stuff she would go and show her mother stuff so if she would show her mother stuff she would try to make it manipulative don't do this don't do this I love you I love you don't do this those words ring a bell to you no Daddy hurt Mommy that's not true what you I wasn't there that's not true is that what you're going to say when you're in a sitting in a courtroom and that interview gets played I wasn't I wasn't there what do you think a judge is going to think when you tell him this that oh yeah I just found BB gun oh yeah I just happened to have the BB gun with me when she threat me with a knife oh yeah she knew it was a BB gun I I just held it to her head oh the fact that on the same day that I held a gun to her head she sent a picture of a Glock 43x which is the same gun that I know and and car the same gun that I said I had I pulled a gun me not giving you texted her and said you pulled a gun but me not giving you details about the BB gun I would just say yeah I had a BB gun on me I would we call we know it's not a BB gun we know it's the Glock 43 no it wasn't it really wasn't and that's the truth even when you talk about my location from last do you think anyone's believe in that I wasn't there I mean you were there what you just said you were there when I was there earlier today around 6 but I wasn't there last night what talk about when you were holding the gun to her head no when I held the BB gun tour the Glock 43 when I held it out yeah I mean I was over there then but I think that she thinks when you if you look at a picture of that gun and if you look at a BB gun she wouldn't know she how many women are in your rotation right now uh I deal with her and I deal with someone up north she found out about something something went wrong like last night you need to tell us what you know the police got called out there very early yesterday morning right around the time this all happened people heard things your own son heard and saw things I mean you've been in an apartment you you can hear neighbors especially if there gunshots going on and do getting kicked in I mean I'm just trying to think especially if someone's landing on the ground kick in especially someone's laying on the ground screaming you don't have to do this I love you you don't have to do this I love you doors kicked in doors kicked in so it was a forced entry so it was a forced entry you tell me you've never kicked her door in before no no cuz you're not violent y'all are talking about the bedroom door that you broke I mean the bedroom door I didn't kick that she had not out was like a push and the door was already the door was already messed up and I paid to get it fixed but no that was after she went and hid in the bedroom no I never kicked her door and she she said that you fold her in there she used to overly exaggerate you didn't deny it in the text message she used you didn't say you're lying in in a text message when you're talking to a person and when you're arguing and when you send a rebuttal back to them you don't like like for her she used to take the text messages and show them to her mom so if you look at some of the messages I used to have to correct what she said I stopped doing that because I knew what I was doing I knew that I had control of the situation I know that I know that I would never harm her especially with me knowing that she was pregnant I know that I know that if I would have went over there if I was to go over that last night it would have been for me and her to probably it probably would have been for me and her to kind of get close it probably would have been to have intercourse or something like that I would have went over there last night because she didn't want to no she'll tell she's been trying to get you out of her life no no look at she wants you to sign with the rights to your kids no no that's not what she recently said yesterday I just went through all say anything no no that's what she said Tuesday to make me upset if you look at what she said yesterday yes say she didn't rec that at all no yes she did look at no yes she did read through all of them I can show you no I can show you I can show you unless you deleted it everything July 8th today no I can show you I show you a t a TI Jake's text that I sent her she said that means that that means you want to make the family work right right after that she was like come home and I had to straighten her I was like uh I don't live there that's not my home I'm I'm out here look at the text and you'll see that she wanted to make things work she was upset because I wasn't speaking to her if I wanted to make everything work out all I had to do is call and say Hey I want to come over there hey come grab me or come pick me up the last three things she said to you was nothing about coming over says I'm happy you think this is funny or that I'm joking goodbye I'm a stalker yeah goodbye told her are not important none of that seems like sat there and withheld all that information earlier because you're like let me see if these dumbass detectives are going to find all this stuff on their own and then I'll deal with that and you had sat there spinning your wheels thinking about all this stuff all day yesterday no I told her she was a stalker though but now that we found all this out now you're having an answer for it why didn't you bring it up earlier why am I having to confront you about it because you because I know that I didn't do anything to her but why would you not reveal the most crucial stuff about I'm asking you about violence in your history when it comes to the privacy of my relationship I just I didn't feel like so you'd rather protect the privacy of your relationship with a woman who's dead guilty or innocent there is no such thing as privacy during a murder investigation the police aren't going to take you at your word that the information isn't relevant and it will only cause them to dig deeper that has a fetus inside of her I didn't even know that she had passed away that help us figure out what happened I didn't even know that she had passed away until I spoke to you guys until you guys until we sat at this table I didn't what did you think we brought you down here for why didn't you ask I had to tell you no I asked you you of yeah you had to tell me because I kept asking once when I got there um JSO they said we can't tell you um it's an investigation going on and then another hour went by they said the same thing on my way on my way no yeah on my way here they said the same thing okay and then once we sat down that's when you guys were like well I mean I man I was still speaking like she I thought she was alive I was asking questions even even when I I was talking to my stepdad on my way to um on my way there were you just hoping that she was still alive cuz you didn't know after you panicked and ran out of there I didn't even go over there I wasn't there I didn't know what happened I I didn't know what was going on went the first time I found out that something happened to her was when we sat at this table when we were at Mission Point I asked the officers I said what's going on I said was it a did somebody kidnaps AR because I saw so much tape everywhere so at that point I just didn't know what the hell was going on I didn't know you trying to lie your way out of this man it's not going to work no I did not know I honestly did I sat here earlier I listened and I rolled with you and I rolled with you and I rolled with you I'm telling you the truth now I'm telling you the truth I wasn't there I don't know what happened over there until you guys told me I didn't even know it was a forc entry until you just told me that I didn't even know that my kids were in there laying on their mom or laying in there when it happened until you just told me that I didn't know that it was a murder until you told me that I had so they shot Mommy I didn't know what was going on until you guys mentioned what happened for my kid who knows man you know she ain't got no other man in there calling three if you're still coming around and y'all are still a thing she ain't got no other men in there she's got her kids calling Daddy I've had I've had her she she said to me one time that she wish she had a a daddy she said that to me one time and you know I started looking out for a little more but she says stuff like that Daddy Daddy she says stuff no you don't have to do this I love you I love you you don't have to do this that's how she talks like she'll call a man daddy she said to me she used to she was like that before I met her that's it's how she is and she's going to let her three-year-old call another man daddy knowing that you still come around there she only sees me once a off if that I don't even stay in Jacksonville where' the 43x come from um when I originally purchased it I think that I bought it from shooters from Shooters yeah but one day I how long what year when did you buy the 43x like last year you say like last year when I can't recall I don't remember I mean summertime might have been could could have been about how long do you think you had it before you reported it St missing maybe six or seven months probably maybe longer I'm not sure I would have to look at the receipt but when it comes down to it I know that I left it in her apartment one day and it was gone after that and I hadn't really seen it since and that was back in maybe January I wasn't even over there when I reported stolen um and she was trying to look for it help me find and stuff like that but I think that she had stolen it I think that she had a guy that she was talking to on the side and I said this to her one time um I told her I was like you know whoever you're dealing with they need to return my gun and she was like I said that one time but there's no way to verify that but she she told you last night you're not important and you didn't like that you couldn't handle it you went back over there she didn't want anything to do with you I didn't go over there I said I mean she and I we would insult told each other I mean I know who I am I'm comfortable in my skin so she said worse stuff than that to me and I didn't budge or say anything So at the end of the day at the end of day you saying all this little smile on your face no because it's funny no it's funny when she says stuff like that because she and no because she and I we we were we're a couple like she'll insult me I'll insult her and then we would gone by our married way like you said earlier you weren't really interested or didn't really no I still PR around and she was messing with other people this and that because I can't I can't monitor that type of stuff because if I stayed if I stayed in Jacksonville and I knew that I was going to see her every day it would be different because I can monitor that type of stuff I can clock it I can say you know you work from this time to this time every day um I I why didn't you stay in Jacksonville you leave um I want it better for the family I I wanted her to move that was another one of the texts we we had last night we were talking about her moving up nor if if you look at my phone I just read all the way back through the 12th again I didn't see no no no if you look at if you look at the text there's a text from yesterday that said that I wanted her kids to relocate up north how were you going to play that knowing that you have a girl up there no I don't really have a girlfriend up there well you said you had a girl up there no you said you said how many chicks go have yeah she's my that's my girlfriend and I had a friend but it's not like a girl who I go on dates with it was a girl who you know I would socialize with every now and again nothing serious no photos nothing public no real dates it really if you want to talk about it she's the only woman that I was truly truly dating but I have been I have flirted with another email at the end of the day if you look at the text you'll see that I chose to tell her I told her that I wanted her to move with me I I see where you say uh you trashed your apartment and pulled a knife and then you got mad because I grabbed my gun and then she sends a picture of the door completely shattered not from just tugging on the door like you said and then you say the only thing I broke was the door true so I mean that's contradicting what you're telling us now and then sends a picture of a Glock 43x I mean yeah but if you look at when you look at when you look at the Glock 43x that's probably an older photo I did but I did but I did mention everything on the counter is the same as when you when you I don't know how she I don't know how she set everything up on her counter I don't know how that went that's silly man I'm I'm serious that's silly I'm serious even when it's not even it's not even a creative it's not even a creative excuse no no no but seriously but even when you look at our text messages from yesterday you'll see where I said I prefer you and the kids to move up north and that was when she said well two out of three text yesterday she said goodbye stop talking to me I'm that was late that was late no that's not if you look at the trend of our text messag and she look at two text messages before that I'm looking at the ones where she's saying you're holding a gun to her at the she's saying you broke her door I'm looking at the ones where you said yes I grabbed my gun and where you said yes I broke the all that stuff is old in an effort to further discredit young he claims that she is bipolar the detectives allow him to ramble on since he is only damaging his case with little to no effort on their part it was a BB gun and that was the last time I saw her you didn't say I grabbed a b gun you said I grabbed my gun A gun a BB gun it's the same gun that she took a picture of the saying no it wasn't no no it wasn't and the last time I saw mythical BB gun that you just found outside and now it's not it's not mythical if you go in her apartment it's there right now search the whole apartment it's not there apartment bro we've been in her apartment all night it's not there even when you look at our text messages you'll see how can you explain the BB gun being gone it's not there I don't stay there I don't the BB gun that you just found randomly outside I don't live the same BB gun that you just happen to have I don't live there I don't know who com not the Glock 43x that you bought last year not the 43x that you reported stolen last year not the Glock 43x that you held to her head a picture no I did not hold a GL Glock 43x that you were going to carry I did not not the Glock 43x that you said you with a knife I did not hold a Glock 43x not the Glock 43x that you shot her I did not hold a Glock 43x to her head and I did not have that gun in my possession the last time I saw that gun the Glock was like in the last time I really had a f was a Taurus and it was a friend of mine it was a 40 caliber but I didn't need it why did you have that uh just how long ago was that that was maybe like maybe like last week your friend uh just a friend of mine what's his name shoot um what Nick Nick what I don't know Nick last name I mean it's just where can I find Nick I just got to verify this I just you said last week it's not it's a friend named Nick that lets you hold a 40 and you don't know his name it's I don't know his last name where can where can I find Nick uh probably on the North side somewhere on the North side some how do you get in touch with Nick I it wasn't something that I was carrying I'm just being honest you said you were carrying it for a little while the 49 oh I'm not it it wasn't on my person but that's the last type of gun that I was hold on who's Nick let's let's get this let's clear this up who's Nick Nick is a guy out of the uh out of the neighborhood what's his last name I don't know what's his phone number uh I don't know how did you get in touch with him uh just being around I being around where I was at the park um you know my grandmother's house the 6622 klock address just being I'm I'm not talking about the one you got trespassed from no I don't get trespassed the one you just told us that you since two weeks ago you haven't been in Duvall County you've been out in Green Cove or in uh yeah yeah yeah but now you're up in kenlock I that was around the same time when you said this last week you were holding 40 that was the last time I was just I'm I'm being honest about my point is you're not being honest about anything no my point you're not being honest about anything you can't now cuz made up I'm not I'm not making up anything then who is Nick my main point no who is Nick no my main who is Nick it's a guy in the neighborhood it's he's not just a random guy in the neighborhood everybody in the neighborhood I didn't I didn't like carry it anywhere but we talked about guns the last time I had a real gun around me was when I held his that's not what you just said you said that he was letting you hold it for a while what I just said yeah he was just letting me hold it and earlier you said that you had it for months but I didn't say I had it for mon play back to table I had I had my own for you said you had both I had my no I had my own 40 oh so now there's another 40 now that now that you won't tell us who Nick is now now that I'm calling you on your bluff and you're getting getting caught up in another lie no I'm tell I'm not lying I'm tell just skirting around then I'm tell theth who's Nick it's a guy in the neighborhood you if we sit at the park or something how you get the gun back to him I mean we sat I didn't care like I wasn't carrying it around on my person how did you get about how you get it back to him explain it we talked about he was just showing it to me and stuff like that like here just hold it I was holding it like just take it with you no I didn't take it anywhere with me I was holding it you asked me about a gun and you tried to say that the last gun I was around was a Glock 43x and I'm telling you that the last gun you said the last gun you had you said no I said the last gun that I was around was you changed that after I started asking about Nick I said that you said the last gun that you had was a 40 that your friend let you hold for a while and earlier today earlier today you said you had it for a couple months you gave it back to your friend and now that I asked you who Nick is you said oh I didn't really I didn't really hold I just kind of I was next to it and I don't know who Nick is I don't know Nick's last name I don't know where Nick stays at I don't know Nick I don't know anything the Glock every time we're confronting you with something you're skirting around it more lies more stories none of it makes any sense hey just take a deep breath real quick when is any of the when are you going to realize that every everything you're saying is just silly and it can't be it can't be substantiated it can't be verified and you're just SC you're not being honest about a damn thing the you are not being honest about anything the last the only honesty that we've said here honest God TR honest God the only honesty that we've said in here is don't do this I love you do this you don't have to do this I don't know what you're talking daddy hurt Mommy that's not true the last tourus if you look at my record of guns that I bought with my own money you will see that I purchased a 40 caliber tourist from Shooters jacks that gun is missing but I didn't report it stolen I looked for it I didn't report it stolen I how long ago was that 40 caliber tus um I bought that gun like four years ago so you just told me the last gun you had was a 40 caliber tourist we asked you what happened to the last yeah the last asked you what happened to you said you gave it to your friend no the last Nick and fabricated the whole story you up the last gun that no the reason I told you that was because you tried to make it like the last gun that I had in my possession was a was why two shots why' you shoot her twice shoot who why two shots I didn't shoot why did you shoot the mother of your children twice I didn't shoot her you fired two shots in an apartment last night why no I didn't how could you leave your 2-year-old and your 3-year-old I didn't in the apartment with her I the whole time I didn't how can you sit here it's just so calm and cool because I'm being honest I guess gave you two options earlier I gave you the path of emotional things went down something bad happened I'm not a bad person I wasn't even there and then cold blooded killer I'm going to lie lie lie and I'm going to protect myself I wasn't there damn her damn them kids damn that unborn I got to look out P I love my children this is pure evil I love my children I do anything for my kids I would never leave my kids in an apartment would you do to stay I would never leave my kids alone by themselves I would never leave my kids unattended you would do anything for your kids yeah I do anything for my children you would do anything for your kids nothing can separate you from your kids why don't you just stay home why don't you marry her stay here work and live with her because I started a life up north and if you look at the you had kids here yeah but I was doing better than what she was doing I was the bread winner so the best situation for for us to have would have been for her to just come where I was at but instead wanted to terminate your rights and she was no she was talking she was just talking crazy she wasn't just talking crazy text messes we've got three times now I've read every single one of them you just said you do anything from your kids nothing could separate you from your kids she was trying to separate you from your kids and there's nothing that you wouldn't do so you made sure that you and your kids were not going to be separated I spoke to her about that termination of rights and if you look in the textt M I looked in the text messages it's not there I just read it and you'll see that she because I'm going to bring up the text and you're going toate some new story serious she wasn't serious about that she wanted to get married she wanted to get married she wasn't serious about that not anytime soon not since she just talked about she just said she wanted to get married yesterday not not in the text the text messages and you'll see the text messages I'm I'm just waiting just waiting what uh you don't have any problem keep having kids with her why not I mean we we were moving into my building she says you want to marry me this is 3 weeks ago you want no this is in June this is over a month ago you want to marry me but you keep me hidden you moved up north you want nothing to do you're not present you didn't want a post her she want want po this is was just her life that you wanted to have that little life pin tucked away your back she she wanted to get married and she didn't want to get married I just looked at the M no that that was her trying to say she was upset she said you keep me hit i' be upset too if someone held a Glock 43x I'd be upset too if someone broke my door I'd be upset too if someone threat next to anybody's head and her saying that I keep her hidden that's just her talking about how she felt about my social media pres St no that she said she said no that's what you just said that though because you keep saying look at the text look at the text I look at the text I read the text and it's not saying this is your phone this is your text messages that's not lining up with anything you're saying right now everything that she said when it came down to um there's what's you're fabricating everything that she said even when she said something about termination rights I I mentioned that to her and she was like you know I would never do that X Y and Z she did if you look at the text you see I'm looking at the text and I read it and nothing nothing's making sense with what you said I didn't have any reason to be that angry with her the police went through all of the messages from Armstrong's phone including the messages from social media apps none of them contained what he described to the detectives before we continue with the case I wanted to let you know that right now is the best time to get anything from my merch shop in preparation for the holidays whether it's a gift for a loved one a friend or just for yourself because you deserve it stranger label.com has everything that you're looking for we've got hoodies t-shirts beanies socks and even mugs plus almost every item in the shop was designed by me so head on to stranger label.com and use the code strange holidays to get 15% off your entire order and don't forget you can leave me a short message once you check out I'll be reading your messages at the holiday dinner table so expectations are high and with that said let's get back into the case I really did what went wrong in that apartment I think that she and I just sometimes we just used to argue but I didn't stay with her I didn't live with you argued and it turned into a lot more than that it escalated the violence me what do you mean it escalated the conversations about guns being put to heads being even I mean by your own admission she pulled knife on you more than once yeah but I'm not you're just sitting there acting like you did nothing wrong no but I'm not I'm not fussing about it because why did to that type of stuff why did she pull a kn funny um I was being nonchalant I was being passive aggressive she pulled it out on me while I was holding my daughter you stop the pass no no no no seriously no seriously I got report after report woman after woman including your mom that but even no but even the first time I was holding my daughter I was holding her and she pulled the knife out on me so why because I she was she was upset and I wasn't pan her in attention I was paying my kids more attention than I was paying her so she pulled a knife on you cuz you paying attention to your own kids she was yeah she was how was that being she was fussing at she was fussing at me and arguing with me about something and I chose to ignore her and so you pulled a BB gun on her no after she pulled a knife on me and after I set my daughter down and got my son in check then I grabbed the BB gun she didn't even know it was a BB gun but she follow you around with a knife while you set your child down yes she did where was that BB even at she pointed it at me where where's this b g even at um it was like it was in a like a book bag it was in a book bag whose book bag I mean I had like a I had like a book bag I had like a clear book bag and I had like a black book bag I keep like a laptop in this when you were staying there or you just happened to come over no this I didn't I never stayed there so you had just brought brought you brought bags gun in it for no reason no anytime I come in town that's me visiting anytime anytime I come why did you bring the BB gun over there cuz my thing is I I don't reason why I don't have a gun why did you bring the BB gun over there I found it in the complex so that day no not that day when uh I can't I can't remember a week a month a year a day it was on one of my visits so you car you take it up to up North with you no you can't take guns on planes that's why that's why I never carry the gun it was on that visit you found it I don't even have a gun when when why did you bring the BB gun over there the BB gun was already over there okay so now it was already over there yeah but and you put it in your bag why I mean shoot if I go outside how many guns have you bought yourself two guns the tourist 40 the T 4 and the Glock 43x you bought both those from Shooters yeah Taurus four four years ago approximately you said maybe three years and the 43x was last year yeah and you gave the tourus to Nick no I didn't give anybody that gun that no you guys when we talked about guns to I don't oh that gun I don't know that g one I just asked you no I can show you a message where no I don't want to I want to know what happened to the tourist 40 stop thinking and answer the question honest God's truth I don't know one time no one time I was at a girl's house we don't need we don't need any more crazy stor it was stolen it was taken I said I didn't report it when it was stolen I said thaten you know how I know when someone's about to tell me a lie because they started off with honest God's truth no I can I can show you in Facebook Messenger where I wrote a person about it I don't want you to show me I asked you to tell me what did you do with the tour's 40 caliber where is it what' you do I don't know where it's at you don't know what happened to a gun that you bought was it stolen or do you not know where it's at somebody stole it from a girl's house what girl um a girl I used to talk to named Ashley her name was Ashley um when was this I can show you the text I can show you the th when was this click on Facebook Messenger that might have been [ __ ] that might have been it was over a year ago over a year ago been missing for a while so you so that was went missing lost stolen whatever whatever thing you're coming up with yeah before you bought the 43x you want me to go get you a shovel real quick it'll help you d dig this hole deeper that you're digging no I'm just be faster with a shovel no I'm being honest you're not being honest about a damn when it comes down to the tourus 40 what are you being honest about I'm being honest about everything the tourist 40 the girl tell you one thing you being honest about no listen listen I asked I've been listening for hours man you haven't told us anything you're just spinning you're just spinning all said when it came to the tours the the 40 caliber tours the one that you missed the one that you lost the one that was stolen the one that Nicks got the one that you had for months the one you you only saw from Ni you told us 10 different stories still but when when I mention but you don't even know if it's stolen no but you no but the only reason I is it stolen or is it missing or do you not know what happened to it I it first first it was missing and then it became stolen I left it at a girl's house do you know what happened to it I think somebody she was dating took it but she told me she didn't know where it was and she said that in Facebook Messenger on Facebook Messenger she told me she said she doesn't know where it is she doesn't know who took it she just knew it was missing you just leave a gun at her house um I left it by accident oh of course that makes sense of course of course you did no I did I left it by what happened to the Glock 43x um I don't know you don't know or you missed it bro you know a lot of stuff tonight but you don't know what happened to two guns you have an answered for everything Glock 43s what happened to where is your Glock 43s I felt like she where is your Glock 43s don't know I felt like I can promise you that's not the face I saw tonight was covered in blood bullet holes I felt like she stole it because you felt like she did where did you leave it it used to be at her apartment at her apartment yeah why' you leave it at her apartment that was when I had a reported stolen did you always leave at her apartment uh I left Jackson in December so you didn't leave it at your parents house no I I left it over there at her apartment because she needed protection for my kids and stuff but she's got her own gun you said she had a 22 I didn't know I didn't see the 22 until March I a see 22 till March where's the 22 at I don't know that's her stuff I don't know the 22 is tell me okay tell me about a time where an incident was your fault with one no but no no no no I want to here what what when was one of these situations your fault when did you do something wrong when did you start the altercation when did you do something that deserved the reaction the wrong thing that I did was when I took the BB gun out when I took it out and when it looked like I made it look threatening I made it look threatening how did you make it look threatening I just made it look threat I made it look like it was show me how how did you make it look threatening I mean I I grabbed it and I was like this but like what I grabbed it explain it you've been explaining so much stuff in detail don't shy away here I was I was holding it like she holding it where where were you pointing it at a person's not used to me carrying a weapon a person not used to me seeing a gun in my hand she's used to it no she wasn't you purchased two guns did you buy those guns to not carry them on you no the the first one with the Taurus I slept with a girl one night and I didn't feel comfortable her apartment and I took my firearm in there but when I left her apartment I left the firearm there hold on you went into her apartment yeah you slept with her but you didn't feel comfortable there that was like a while that was over a year ago BR you you about two years ago so it was two years ago it was stolen maybe over a year between a year and two years but I never reported it stolen I kept asking I threatened so first it was a girl you were seeing now it's a girl that you just sleeping with and which one is it see in this girl or did you just have a one night stand no no let's let's dive into this because every time you come up with a story it's [ __ ] no I can tell you I can tell you the truth I can tellable I can tell you no I can tell you the truth about that gun with that with that 40 cal Tes no you can't was it a year ago or was it two years ago no I trusted her I trusted her TR her no that's not the girl Ashley I don't know you tell me yeah me and Ashley we before you said there was no girls in between your baby mama with a 5-year-old hold on hold on hold on first when we started you had your baby mama with a 5-year-old and then you had ashy had M me and Ashley were Affiliated by friends were you seeing her or was it a one night stand cuz you've told us both I don't know what to believe she and I we had a thing going on years ago and then we met back up but you weren't comfortable with her uh I just didn't trust where she stayed at I'm not going to say I didn't trust her but I didn't trust you're trying to lie to us like we're one of your chicks man no I'm being honest I'm being honest because the reason that I did not being honest about anything no the reason that I didn't report that 40 sto stolen was because I figured that if I put a enough pressure on her she would give it back to me so I told her I was like um I said hey if you don't turn up with it I'm going to report it stolen and if I report it stolen Whoever has it they'll end up going to jail you ain't no Street dude this ain't your life man you ain't no exactly I'm not a street dude so when I cuz you're terrible at lying no I'm being I'm being honest about what if you I what you being honest about I can show you the thread you can't show me a thing in here cuz everything that you've said in here is not true it it doesn't exist I can show you the thread when he said with Messenger on it man up bro man up I am Manning you put two two rounds in that girl last night man up I didn't man up I really didn't you did I did you might not have wanted to I wasn't even over there you might hate yourself right now for you around all day thinking about you knew we were going to come to you your brain I'll go to them I'll look like the innocent I was go over there if I know let show up show out let me know if I would have known that anything took place I would have went straight to her mother's you knew we were going to come for you showed up no I would have went to her mother's house this whole time you've been trying this is a game to you you've been trying to lie your way out of this I'm not lying let me show up as a concerned father without no I would have went to her mother house if I you didn't ask about your kids you were here for hours before you even asked about I did ask about them not until we brought them up no I asked I that's why you called her mom cuz you knew what would happen mom one of the one of the main reasons I couldn't ask about my kids was because I didn't know what was going on why I didn't know anything you just said you asked about your kids and now you said you didn't ask about your kids yeah but pertaining to you guys knowing where my and me knowing where my kids are now I did not know that anything why you call her at like 2:00 in the morning knowing she was dead why did you call I didn't know that anything happened did you buy both guns and Shooters at the same time or were they did you buy them at two different instances um two different instances you said the tourus was a few years ago yeah what how let's go about the Nick you said Nick ended up with no no no he didn't end up with my tours he didn't have my tours he didn't have my tours we're talking about two separate tours yes that's what I was saying I was saying the last time I was around a real gun outside of that Glock n was when I was around a Taurus so the B is you bought two guns within the past few years that you purchased personally that you can't account for you say you don't know where they are what one of them I reported stolen the other one out with the to yeah you have a picture of a 43x but with the 40 caliber and then there's a separate tours 40 Cali some dude named Nick from the neighborhood just let you hold on to and then you don't know what happened to that one either you just gave it back to him at some point I didn't even really carry it around I just said that because I just wanted to be honest about the last time I had a real gun in my presence I probably shouldn't even mentioned it because it's not something that I had on my person I I don't I don't listen listen I don't live in Jacksonville so I don't have a reason to have a weapon on me I don't have a reason to do anything like that and then I can't I can't fly with a gun you know what I mean I can't take a gun on a flight so I mean you can I just did it I mean when you have your when you have your um what time did you show uh I showed up at Mission Point Apartments maybe around six and I think that and who gave you a ride um um my stepdad gave me a ride okay and why did you come over I came over to make sure that everything was all right like I had been call I called tashika I called about [ __ ] I called about 15 20 times and then I sent a text to a mom whenever whenever she did you talk to your mom or your sister um I spoke to my sister earlier when maybe around 4:00 she was taking my she was taking my 5-year-old back to Charlotte when I called her she was like two hours old did you express any concerns to your mom or your sister I express concerns to my sister because my sister and tashika they kind of get along so did they express any concerns to you no no Armstrong's family was in frequent contact with young so it is odd that he didn't ask them if they were also having trouble reaching her so I um you know with my sister janula you know her until she could kind of get along so I was like hey you know call her maybe she see your number she'll call me or do something and I kept calling her and now it's when I text her mom and call them all and then that's when I showed up out there when I showed up out there that's when I saw the scene and nobody wanted to let me know what was going on there's a there's a fact that I've presented several times tonight detective Kelsey has also though that you seem to just gloss over like you don't Daddy shot Mommy I mean you haven't attempted to try to explain like at the end of the day a big deal I think don't you no no no I mean at the end of the day that's your son that's my son and us men you were just there last week us men we take things like this serious but I don't know what she does when I'm not around that's why when I'm up North when I'm a thousand miles away I try not to get too jittery about that type of stuff because if you're somewhere so far away where you can't catch a flight and get to somebody a person will lose sleep over there so I got used to not you know once you with a person and you guys are solidified the relationship some things get swept under the rug were you solidified though I mean that doesn't those messages the conversation the history don't solid about she wanted to get married and I wanted to get married too I wanted to get married I'm just saying solidified you just called the relationship solidified was it she saying by our want know you sign over the rights of the kid that's what we both we both talk like that to each other but at the end of the day we never mean it if you look at the last thing she said to me she said you know I sent her something I was talking about you know how they how a woman we we talking about women and men the difference in running household or something like that and she was like does that mean that you finally want to make the family work or does that finally mean that you want to get married she said that to me yesterday around 4 something in the afternoon and I didn't respond and today she's dead I wish that I had responded to her well you seem like you've convinced yourself of that story it's the truth here's the truth she would get nasty with me whenever I wouldn't budge for you never got nasty with her yeah I did yeah I didn't say that I did but at the end of the day I knew that we still loved each other I knew that me and her could get through anything I knew that she and I would always be in each other's good graces to until she didn't want that anymore no she did want until she was finally done no I'm telling you she did want to make these situations always eventually end up finally done no you weren't going to let that happen no she wanted to make us work she wanted a family yeah she wanted a family she wanted a real man to commit to her and be there for her not someone running around hiding her not wanting to post her if you look at the message and you we talked about it yesterday talked about it yesterday how many social media applications you got you Instagram Facebook yeah how many pictures of her on your Facebook and Instagram I archived them how many pictures of her are on your Facebook and Instagram uh right now meaning nobody can see them right you don't have any pictures of her that's why she felt like I was hiding her why were you I really wasn't I felt like like I felt like we need to get married first before I do all of that she was done she knew what you were doing no she wasn't you keeping her in the shadows while you did what you ran around the country doing what you wanted to do if you look at the text messages you'll see that she said she was done bro done she wasn't she was ready to cut you out yesterday I told her yesterday I told her I said back and forth she was sick of knives and guns and drama and doors being kicked in yesterday I told I said I wanted to move our family up north she said that we need to be married first and then I'll come she wanted if AKA commit if you want me show it and commit you couldn't do it no I could have done it if you could have but you chose not to if if I would have show she was done no she wasn't if I would have showed up yesterday and said let's get married she would have said let's do it no because if that's what you really wanted you wouldn't have spent the last week in middleberg you spent the week with her you're in town that's where your kids are gone all the time and I why not take advantage of every minute here to be around her and your kids but she and I we were she and I we were engaged and we put the engagement on hold she had her engagement R sometimes I guess that she would wear it out um but when it came down to you weren't done playing man and she called you on it no I think that when it came she was done she called you on it you weren't done playing you weren't ready to commit you didn't want to be what she wanted you to be she loved me she loved you she was she really was and if you look at the whole conversation that we had you can love someone be with him anymore no yesterday she said that she wanted to be with each other even if you look at this past if you look at this past week's text messages you'll see a message in there when she says I don't have to look at past weeks I can look at last nights Armstrong is in denial about the state of his relationship with young if it was going to end it would have to be his decision Young making that choice or self was enough to push him over the edge she didn't want you in her life no when she says she didn't want you in her kids life that's not the truth she didn't want you to have any right that's not the truth cuz you wanted to go play up you didn't want to send them any money you didn't want to have anything to do with them not the truth you wanted your free space that you said she would make that stff you're in town and you're staying with your parents you're not even staying she knew I love she knew I love myid you haven't seen her in a week and she knew I was active in my kids seen in a week she knew that I would never my children's see them for a week in I mean I was I mean I was country I was talking I mean the last time I you wanted nothing to do with her no that's not true and the second she tried you I need space handle no that's not true but I needed space the last time why you need space you live up north the last time one of those pictures is when you met the last time I saw her was last Saturday which ones is when you met her U I've known her since I've known her since I was in the ninth grade she trusted you she loved you she wanted it forever and this is where it got her I didn't do anything to her I would never touch her just pull a BB gun on her know but I would never hurt send pictures back and forth of knives and guns I mean at the end of the day that's something all couples had that type of stuff going on sometimes I didn't feel like I had to mention it that's how you left her that's what you did to her I didn't do that you see your kid's blanket right there on her I didn't that's how you met her that's how you left her I didn't do that do you know who put that kid's blanket on her I didn't do that your three-year-old kid you know where your three-year-old kid laid for hours I didn't do that by himself by herself left in that apartment alone there should have been two casings next to her where you shot her but one of those casings was in your kid's room because they were running around playing with stuff in the apartment all day left unattended on their own I wasn't over there that's what happens when you hold a clock 43x to someone's head I should have protected you should have from yourself but what' you do instead I wasn't there you should have let her go you weren't ready to commit she she got so sick and tired of that [ __ ] back and forth she was ready to let go she was so in love with me she was ready to let go no she was so in love with me to the point anymore she wanted to let go that's not true I I knew how she felt she said goodbye she said she wants your rights look she said look at how many times we both said goodbye and and look at my response when I said when I told her I said you didn't even AP not important no I told her I said you didn't even apologize to me about talking about the stuff with the kids rights and then she told me she said that she said you know I didn't mean that I said it because I was mad and I said you need to apologize to me and that's when she sent me a text message she was laying right there when she said you don't have to do this she sent me a text message said she apologized you don't have to do this I don't I don't know Daddy Mommy and you knew those kids were going to be there that's why you locked the door on your way out I don't know who she was dealing with her mom had to use the key when she went in there today I don't know who she was dealing with the only person that's going to take the time to lock the door and try to make sure it's at least somewhat secure is you because your kids were in there and you knew that I want to find but you couldn't call her mom you had to wait you had to wait all day long to make it look like I don't know what's going on I can't get hold of her you couldn't call right away I never call you had to wait you went preservation mode no save myself no I never call a mom when me and her would get into arguments and stuff I would never get a mom involved so when it comes down to it you know I just like to handle stuff stuff like an adult but when I saw that I kept calling and I kept texting and she didn't respond you and I both know that's what you did to her there's no one else that came in there and did that you did that I did it you did that I didn't you got pissed off you got emotional why would I be upset she said wor stuff than that you shot her in her own bed the same bed you probably conceived that baby in her I've never I've never the same bed that you had used to have sex with her and that you conceive that baby and there's a bullet in that pillow right where she laid her head last night I didn't touch her I didn't do anything to her all that back and forth [ __ ] guns kicking doors in pulling guns this is where it got you I didn't do it to I didn't touch it just tell the story man what happened I did the last tell the story the last time I saw her no I don't need to hear all that last week no that's not true it is true this is the last time you saw her this is the last time you saw her it's not I didn't even know what happened to her until y'all told me as the detectives have pointed out Armstrong has asked very few questions since being taken into custody a behavior that doesn't match his claim of being a loving and engaged father all of his thoughts are focused on on self-preservation and he is as willing to sacrifice his children's well-being as he was to sacrifice young your sister knew what happened your mom knew what happened who your sister and your mom when they knew what happened before you got before you showed up on the scene you didn't go they they had been contacted they knew something was wrong well I didn't anybody contact me why' you show up at the scene oh we were going to contact you and you knew that that's why you showed up but you came without a key because you knew you'd already called her mom and you left her mom to find her like that so you didn't have to no I showed up over there because I called you were hoping to never see what you did to her I called her countless times I tried to go in there I didn't I didn't know that she had even had anything done to her I did not know I didn't know what happened to her until you guys told me when we came in here you think it's a coincidence that two weeks prior to this you broke her door and you held a gun to her head I don't think and then she's found with gunshots and a broken door isn't that a little bit of a coincidence daddy shot Mommy I didn't do anything you don't have to do this I love you I didn't do anything to her and I didn't go back over there once I left there last week on that after you held a gun to her head and kicked her door a BB gun your phone might not have gone back over there but you did I know actually I wouldn't know because you deleted your location history after the 15 I don't even I think that's why you were very quick to say it's been a week since I've been over there cuz that's what your phone shows no I just I just know where I've been I didn't know that anything happened to her I didn't even know that my family had been contacted about something that happened to her why wouldn't they contact you I don't know maybe they were worried about how I would have handled it you you handled it just fine you haven't seem to right now you seem to have an issue at all you'll see you weren't even concerned about it when you showed up and you saw police everywhere I didn't know what happened you didn't even ask about your kids for hours until we men I know what happened how can I ask about something that I don't know how did your family know I don't know I don't know let me tell you this if you dropped your son off at his girlfriend's house police everywhere police tape people standing everywhere and the second you walk up your son walks up they take him into custody what would you do would you drive away would you go see why he got taking into custody what what would you do I didn't know that my kids had gone into any type of custody listen to No no listen to listen to me you have theoretically you have an adult son you drop him off at his girlfriend's apartment complex there's tape everywhere there's police everywhere yeah I told him that I told him that it was he asked me he said am I dropping you off or are you am I supposed to wait on you I said I don't know I said maybe she'll be able to bring me out to middleberg after I head over here once I got there they said that they weren't letting any anybody else outside of residence go into the buildings and once he said that to me I they didn't want to tell me what happened so I eventually I started walking back towards the car and he said hey I need you to come here so I asked him I said what's going on I didn't know what's going on was your dad s there or did he just drop you off and leave um he sat there for a minute because he I guess he was trying to see what was going on too so I don't think he knew if my mom and my sister knew to him um I didn't see him after that okay did had he already left before you were taken into custody uh I don't know once they took me into custody it was hard to kind of hard pay attention saw do you think if he saw you taken into custody he would have come and seen what was going on they had the whole area blocked off if he saw you being taken into custody do you think he would have come and seen what was going on I don't know you think he cares uh stepdad he maybe he didn't care he probably didn't even want to give me a ride I don't know were you still there when the police came and knocked on the door knocked on what door knocked on her apartment door last night were you still there after you did this did you how long did you hang around I was never there the first time that I showed up at that apartment complex was around 6:00 p.m. that was my first time going over it's your position that some random guy that maybe she was seeing maybe she wasn't that your three-year-old son also calls Daddy I don't know like a lot of guys know that she loves me a lot of guys and some guys get jealous of that you know I'm a guy guys are those which guys are those because earlier you said you didn't know anything about any guys so you just said a lot of guys know that she loves you I mean I've been out and guys she told you about other guys no but I've heard stuff but I just have you confronted her about other guys I just don't pay attention to gossip I don't have have you confronted her about other guys have you asked her about other guys yeah I have asked her about what did she tell you uh she's had times where she's had times where she said stuff like um no she doesn't feel that way she loves me no she would never deal with another man just like in that picture she said in a text she said no um me and you have two kids going one on Three um I don't want any other man I just want you like she said that stuff how did you calm the kids down afterwards Cal the kids after what you have to go put your hand over their mouth what do you mean did you tell them not to say anything what are you talking about did you tell your son don't say anything after what after this happened I wasn't there I I didn't do anything the first time that I got to that apartment apartment complex was this afternoon that was my first time being there after since last Saturday since last night Howes wasn't there last night how does me telling you that she's passed away send you in a you know balling curling up and everything but these pictures you don't have any reaction to you you're asking me questions I feel how I feel but I still have to be strong in this situation I still have to my kids I have to deal with my kids I have to worry about raising them and I have to do it as a single parent you didn't worry about him when you left him there you think you're going to of your kids after this I don't know that was a grand plan in your mind that ain't going to work maybe maybe between her P her mother and me I don't know maybe her maybe her mother can keep though while I'm up North and I can come and visit Jacksonville I don't know but that's how I'm thinking after that stuff happened she was a great mother to my kids and I didn't want anything to happen to of course she was she took maintain the kids while you ran around the country doing she tattooed my name on her wrist and her hip and different things like she Lov that's what she wanted at one point in her life and then she gave up no if you look she knew you were never going to come around if you look at the text M we looked at him she told you goodbye she told you you were nothing she told you she didn't want any you to have any rights to the kids anymore that's what that's not what she said she said we read them to you no she said I want you to terminate them and then once I said something to her because I stopped talking to her after that I said why didn't you apologize to me about saying that you want me to terminate my rights she said you shouldn't have she say something like you shouldn't have taken me serious you know I was just angry when I said it and we talked about making the family work again like it was never going to work it it could have you held a gun to your head you kicked her door down no I didn't kick her door down you came back and did it again no I didn't and then shot her in her own bed the last time and left your two kids there with her dead laying there I didn't leave my kids anywhere and I didn't do anything to her and that's the truth the last time that I saw her get a good look bro see those pictures my courtroom the last time I saw her she did not look like this the last time I saw her that's not how she looked when you got over there last night I didn't go over there last night I wasn't there it's funny how you have an answer for everything except the actual important stuff like these guns that are just missing out there in the wind somewhere I mean why you came all the way across town without a key to get inside the own apartment that you knew your kids were and you could couldn't get a hold of their mom I mean all I had to do you didn't need the key and you knew you didn't need the key all I had to do is knock on the door how are you going to do that if you can't get a hold of her a person was willing to make a blank trip or a good trip it it's been plenty of times where I stopped over there before and she just opened the door for me she would just open it for me you acted like earlier that you know she might be seeing other dudes you don't really know too much but so why all the violent arguments I mean for me what were the Violent arguments even about why did she pull a knife on you when you held your daughter I've been in Jacksonville for about two weeks now since I came back maybe two and a half I'm not sure specifically but you know when you when you stay in a different place than a woman who you plan on marrying it takes away a lot of the mess why you go back to earlier what you said why do you have to stay at your parents house why can't you stay with her and your children when you're in town I mean the last time I came for a long time I had hotel rooms like why why can't you stay with the mother I'm a I'm a man I like to have my own living arrangements I I'm used to being in my own space I'm used to being in my own why not just stop messing with her then why not just leave her alone let her go on no because it wasn't that type of situation she and I why not let her go be with a man that was going to commit to her she and I we've always been committed to each other and we still are like we still are committed to each other we still are even through it all we just had a tough time we've had tough time she didn't want you anymore she was done she did she said you were nothing that's not true she said it in a text but she was just trying to be mean no she said you were nothing no she was just trying to be spiteful like most people do when they upset over the last 3 weeks she said nothing she said she said all arguments no she said that after she said you don't love me I'm happy you think this is a joke goodbye you don't care about me the text before the text before that she said something about how I feel why focus on the text before that Focus you have pride issues she said that stuff because she felt like I just didn't want to get married that's what it was about she felt like I just didn't want to get married that's why she was she was going to start holding you accountable she was going to go to the courts you're going to get put on paper no I mean even if she would have went no more this you can pay what you want you want come and go as you please she knows that I gave her more in support than what she would have gotten if she would have taken me to the courts she knew that that's why she would never do it and then we would always make it work I know you still like her please just leave me alone yeah she was just talking she say stuff that's all she's saying she doesn't say anything decent in here she doesn't say that she wants you she doesn't say she wants think you skipping text I'm not skipping I'm reading through them it's a lot of messages in there that say other stuff like even when she apologized even when she said when are you she asked me she said when are you coming home I want she was like I want you to come home like being a parent isn't a sometime job it's a 247 job 365 a year no days off yeah we I'm not about to beg you to help me yeah because you're not around cuz you want your space no she asked me no she asked me for something extra and I had already given her what she needed I said wait you haven't given me any I said I said just she said in 3 weeks she said she said you haven't given me anything in three weeks that's what she said three weeks she didn't make that much money so I ended up pay I ended up giving her more money than what she would have gotten in child support just to make sure that she was good just to make sure she was taken care of young had her own career and was able to care for herself and her children without Armstrong help he is hardly the bread winner in the relationship but he feels the need to justify his importance in Young's life she was taken care of now she's no longer your problem she wasn't a problem so did the gun go you really you really know how to hurt me I don't think I'll ever be the same after this I know she was talking about social media and she wrote that there goes another excuse you got an excuse she was immature you got an excuse for if you look at it you'll see she'll say oh that's what you put on your social media she put something else like oh don't you want our family yeah that she asked me that she wanted to get married yeah but she can only go to do that so she finally realized you were never going to she no she did she did real you just need to apologize and tighten up you couldn't even apologize to her I didn't do anything to you you turning the blame just like you're doing now you're turning the blame on her she asked you to apologize you said I've got nothing to apologize because she had here here what's the excuse now you always got one it's no excuse but I look at things how they are and a lot of times she would give me a hard time it was a mistake to text you it won't happen again no she said that because no she said that because she felt like I wasn't responsible you can't hurt me anymore because you never loved me and I realized that just now now you've made yourself the victim in every situation no she was just you see that she was playing a victim in those situations she she's a victim of aggravated battery and aggravated assault when you held a gun to her no she's a typ she's a victim of being a single mom when you ran up off North and not support she I second she wants to cut ties she and she didn't want to cut ties and I open her text I just read no that's not right you didn't want to cut ties you said you didn't want to have anything she just said do you want don't you want our family that tells you that she just wanted to be married she just wanted to be married that's all she about the kids superhero I have nothing to say that's what I said no that's what she said no I made a I made a Facebook no I made an Instagram post and it said sing it said like Batman single Superman single and then I put oh I must be single and she was like oh all right superhero and that she got upset about it she asked you to stop being mad at her cuz she was really depressed cuz of how you were treating she got upset she wanted to be married all that stuff was and you wanted nothing to do with her so she moved on and you couldn't handle no I don't think she moved on but you broke her door but I do think that she was seeing I do think she was seeing somebody else I won't contact you or reach out to you anymore I do think that she was seeing just wanted to have you just wanted that when you were in town a few nights a month I think that she would seeing somebody else though do you think how you handled me as love ask yourself that I hope you enjoy yourself last night because you were pushing me further and further away you couldn't even answer the question how would it make you feel if you never saw me again and you you don't answer the question you go hours without answering a question a lot of times she would just I won't contact you or reach out any a lot of times she would you nothing to say to that she she used to over exaggerate stuff you're at a apparently you're at a hotel party this whole time no wonder you're not responding cuz you're out with other women with other people you're having a great time without your family you don't need them she's ready MO she was ready to Mo it's more of a gathering oh okay sorry it wasn't a party it was a gathering my bad I was mistaken of course it wasn't and it wasn't a party it was like I had a drink with a friend I of I was being I was being I was being nasty like she likes to be nasty you know you were being nasty all right yeah you know how she'll say something and you know how she'll say all she said she wants nothing to do with you no she that's all she said no she did she wanted everything to do with me she wanted everything to do with I feel like I need to go your message I think you know my ex-wife man y'all got a lot in common bro y'all been the victim of everything Y no but I'm saying no but but the point he keeps going back to in the text messages is saying that she didn't want anything to do with me but on the flip side we just saw the message that said don't you want our family that tells you that she wanted everything to do with me she was just angry when she sent that to me she was ready to move on she was just angry you can want game play for so long she's ready to move on she of the man when I get to Connecticut I'm only coming on holidays talk to you later so you didn't even you didn't even want to come see them you were happy to be out I was saying that out of angle that was your little hidden away family did you just shoot her out of anger did you just break her door out of anger did you just hold the gun up to her head out of anger I didn't touch him I'm not fooled by you man you got a very violent side to you I dident you're hiding it and you think you think you're good at the past four women you've been with you've been violent you SN you took a gun to a woman's house you get emotional and you snap your own family trespass you house you lose control I don't cool you're a player you're smooth with the ladies and all that until this happens until they say hey this is your child's mother you can handle the other one that's I didn't touch her she had to start therapy I'm mentally drained I had to start therapy she had I'm getting therapy for son too because of how you treat used to take no she used to shake my son she had mental health issues you wouldn't answer the phone you hung up on me she had mental health issues why did you blocked her number yeah I didn't want to talk sir points she had mental health issues you disrespect me so much I don't know why I reached out your ego is going to cause you to lose your family for good I where she wanted make family work where did any of this where does any of this say that I wanted to make the family work as well why you were going to Gatherings and hotel her but she want do things said when you get to Connecticut you're not coming back that was you weren't giving her you you said you tested that her said but I didn't mean it why didn't you just let why didn't you why didn't you just let after all this why didn't you just stop in the communication I mean she loved me and I loved her and at the end of the day care that youur me I'm pregnant I'm not even eating I really don't think you love me at all you didn't respond those pictures are love that's how you loved her you loved her so much you left her like that I would have protected her I would have never had her you just said I guess I'll be a single parent raising my kids now this is your plan man that's what you wanted I you couldn't control her anymore no that's she finally was Breaking Free of your that's what I would have to do based on now based on the now you were losing control said she said I want us to get help and you sent her an emoji with no mouth cuz you didn't want to talk cuz you didn't want to get help you were happy in your no she wanted us to go to counseling yeah and you didn't want to yeah I just just there's that gun again that Glock 43x it went missing 6 months before this photo was taken the same picture yeah it's the same pict picture as the we the same picture right here yeah play the audio one more time oh yeah what does that say oh hold on about the knife girl that's the knife you tried to stab me with on the same counter as the gun what was the point of that what was the point of you doing that and taking no because no because no just I had to over and leave us alone no because she was that she got mad with me exactly she no she no she was trying to play the victim and I told her I said hey some of the stuff that took place I said I recorded it once I said that I recorded some of it she started acting like she had some sense why did you record it because you knew he was in the no no I didn't record it you you did right here you took a picture of it no no I didn't record the whole altercation I said I record altercation and she started saying that she didn't want to say anything about it and stuff because she was in the wrong I made that up just to show that she just to let her know that I knew she was in the wrong I didn't tell anybody about grab my gun all I see is you putting a gun to my head and I think I have PTSD from all the things you've put me through I'm done if anybody was going to have pts you called it your you called it your gun and then not minutes later not 2 minutes later you said you threaten me with a knife and you show the picture of the knife and on the same counter she takes the picture of the gun threaten her with that's not a BB gun a block 43 she probably took a picture of it because she probably had possession of it that's a how did she have possession of it if seven months before this you reported it lost I don't know I don't it it was reported lost her the same gun that you just said that you used it was reported l in her apartment you made me pull out my gun you didn't make me pull out a BB gun you made me pull out my gun my glock 43x my glock 43x I had a Glock 43x on me okay it's right here how do you say that it's right here never had a Glock 43x on me how do you explain that I never had a Glock 43x on how do you explain it I never had a Glock 43x you a Glock 43x yeah but it got reported back in January from her apartment it's right here the picture of the gun is days ago it's right here on her apartment all right well the same day that she said you held the gun listen listen the same day that you broke her SW the photo that you're looking at that's a picture that she took right that's a picture that she took that's a picture she took that means that it wasn't in my possession if she took that photo that means that she had that gun was in the same she wasn't in POS of that and it was in the same apartment where I reported it stolen that means she had the Glock 43 eggs the same day that she had the knife oh she didn't have the knife I took you see the knife did you see the knife in her hand I I took that picture no I took that picture after she left the knife's not in her hand no I took that picture after she left after she left her apartment or after she went because I was getting no I was getting because I was I was gathering my belongings apartment she's out of the apartment when you took this photo yeah then we kind of made up that same day she's out of the apartment when you took this photo that's the knife you girl that's the knife you tried to stab me with yeah how did who were you talking to I was talking to the camera you took a photo yeah I was talking to the camera and I sent it to in a you took a photo yeah like a live like a live um photo you don't talk to a live photo you you just said last night if you would went over there y'all probably would have had intercourse you probably would have made up you did go over there and you did think that's what was going to happen and she didn't want [ __ ] to do I didn't go over there when's the last time youall had intercourse um the last time I said that I wanted to see her was the last time I said I wanted to see it was probably on Saturday I called myself putting her on punishment because she wanted to see me and I wanted to see her when was the last time y'all had sex it might have been no she it it was before Saturday she gave me was it during the couple nights you spent there last week she had an outbreak she has um she had git herpes when's the last time y'all had sex um we weren't having sex because she had had an outbreak so when's the last time so we were doing stuff outside of that when's the last time um that was maybe like real sex or like oral sex real um it might have been that might have been when I got in town when was that that was about two and a half weeks ago over two weeks ago yeah okay and you haven't since then no okay you come in town you spent a couple nights over there and then you disappear again that's what you wanted that's what she didn't want anymore I mean I was with to work it out but I just needed some time to myself she just wanted to be married she wanted to make the family work well you keep her full of kids how are you not ready to settle down and get commit to her I wanted her to come up north it would have been backwards for me to move to Jacksonville because she didn't want to come up north cuz she have nothing to do with you no she wanted to come want you in her life she wanted to come upth wedding ring she wanted youate your right no she wanted to be married for her to come up north she said that in she said that in a text she did say the text I just read text from the the text message said when we get married she'll move up north that's what it says I saw you're worthless I don't want anything to do with you said the same stuff that's that's an argument though that's a she was saying that's a light argument if you look at you you aren't pointing out any other good stuff that she it's not in there it is in there that's a light argument as opposed to a heavy argument where knives and guns get pulled I mean that stuff had already that stuff was already bygone man it was like nobody was worried about that she was worried about she said she had PTSD from it just on Wednesday she asked me to come over just on Wednesday she asked me to come over I see that in the I could have had PE look she says when are you coming home come home like and I had and I corrected her I said I don't stay here I don't stay at your apartment I don't I stay up north I just read through all those I didn't see that look she look on Tuesday at Tuesday when when when um she said that to me it's not in there it's in my text messages we've gone through this like four times now I remember the conversation it's not in your text you got your story man you stick to it I remember the conversation though just remember your kids are running around there holding the casing from a bullet that you fired into her I didn't fire see whose blanket is that on her lap right there there's a bullet hole in that pillow right there that looks like my kids do you think during the 17 hours they were left there that maybe they took a nap maybe they tried to crawl up with their mom cuz she wasn't waking up I because they were just left there do you think they got hungry in 17 hours if they were there by themselves I would never do that why wouldn't you commit to the woman that you put three kids inside of why would you not commit to her it was on the itinerary it was on it was on the itinerary you couldn't even spend a week with her yeah you wanted your free space yeah I wanted to stay in I want visit my mom you haven't seen her in over a week I wanted to visit you haven't seen your kids in over a week your mom just tresp but we would FaceTime your mom that trespass you from your grandma's house that was you talking about last year October she didn't she didn't trespass me my sister record docent no my sister your sister's not in there my sister my sister does stay there my sister lives there your sister's not the one that trespassed you no but my mom was trying to I don't know what she had going on me and her would what you think your kids did for 17 hours by themselves and I wasn't TR passing what do you think your kids did for 17 hours 17 hours by themselves no food no water no one to take care of them their mom laying there after they just watched their dad do that Daddy hurt Mommy I didn't do anything daddy hurt mommy and daddy told saying they watch me do something don't tell anybody what what that means that it's another man that said Daddy could have been it was Nick Nick did it I bet oh yeah it's probably the same Nick nah she doesn't know him you don't know him no I know him who is he no just a guy who's um up the street from Ken of course that's running around with your tourus 40 or his tour no he doesn't have my tus he had his own that was just the last time I was in the presence of a real firearm that was why I mentioned it not the Glock 43x no I bet Nick broke in and stole the Glock 43x probably and the and the Taurus 40 I doubt I don't know you never know but I don't even think he knew where she stayed at he was that close to me you know sometimes you just know people from around the way but I know that he didn't take anything and you know I just are you violent I just wish that I had been with her are you violent no I'm pretty people are just all lying on you I'm pretty passive aggressive you use that a biton no I'm saying I'm pretty sure like is that passive aggressive that's your definition of that you pass four friends think you're all passive aggressive nine times out of 10 yeah they all called the police cuz you're just being too passive aggressive no I called the police on your car they all made police reports being to passive aggressive call police they got to go to therapy because of PTSD because of your passive aggressiveness they trespass you from Family House passive aggressive a lot of times no I was they want you to be in their I wasn't TR terate to their kids cuz you're passive she didn't want my she didn't want you break a door cuz you're passive aggressive she did not want my because she didn't want my rights to be terminated why would you continue to impregnate her when yall are going through all this drama because at the end of the day she and I would always work it out that's why didn't work it out this time we would always work it out is this working it out I is this how you define working it out I'm not responsible for that leaving her there saying please don't do this I love you don't do this I love you just think if you had committed and you had been a father to your children and a husband and been there for her and your children in your family this wouldn't have happened then you could have used your Glock 43x to defend your family last night had you been there had you not wanted your own space when I lost that gun back in January I wasn't even worried about it well maybe you could have died defending your family and she wouldn't be laying there like that then but you needed your own space I mean I I wish that I had been around no you don't you said you wanted your own free space you said you got a hotel to keep something like to keep you were a man and you needed I don't I don't know who said you're a man and you're staying at your mom's house say you're a man and yeah I had my own place up north I didn't I'm I'm visiting away from your family yeah I'm visiting I came because I had a heart diagnosis I I came my my doctors are in Jacksonville who are you visiting you're not visiting your family no I was I was stand stand at my mother you wouldn't shoot her and do this to her cuz you don't pull real guns on her you just put BB guns on her I was I wasn't in her presence yeah all right [Music] man my phone bercy Armstrong was initially charged with second deegree murder since tashika young was 4 months pregnant at the time that resulted in a second murder charge Armstrong was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison that's the end of today's video if you liked what you watched and want to support the channel hit the like button and check out my patreon link in the description thanks again for watching and I'll see you next time