I am going to sentence you to 15 years in the department of corrections to be followed by 10 years of probation the Tallahassee man pled no contest to second degree murder for killing a 16-year-old that teen was live on Instagram when Denis Anderson shot him this video contains the interrogation of a man who shot and killed a teenager donkey Anderson and Josh purcel were from rival groups involved in an escalating Feud although they hadn't interacted much personally they could recognize the other on site when purcel heard that Anderson's group had given his friends a hard time he became angry and declared that he was going to confront Anderson on the way to Anderson's house purcel started a live stream on Instagram stating his intentions he said that while he was armed he wanted the confrontation to remain physical Anderson wasn't going to sit back and do nothing instead he and several friends grabbed a gun and went to meet purcel partway spotting him crossing a church parking lot Anderson fired at him when purcel began to run Anderson chased after him continuing to shoot once percel had fallen to the ground Anderson fired several more shots into his body the entire confrontation was caught on camera so I'm going to try to take some notes here so I may stop you at certain points I may um you know ask and clarify questions so I know if I go back and ask you what were you doing on July 15th of 2020 you're not going to know because I wouldn't know what I was doing unless there was a big event that happened that day um and then that day would be clear to me um so I remember because I got called to the scene so I remember pretty much everything that I did uh that night so knowing that that was a big event um you know if we can start from did you go to school that day well that was summertime right so was were you doing football practice were you doing anything else that day I was at for house you it where I said I was my off yeah I was at for okay so you're at for tr's house and that's one game yep okay so about what time did you get to for tr's house like did you spend the night there the night before I think I was already I think I was already up with always okay um like had you been there were you there did you get there when it was still daylight or you know were you there at lunchtime just kind of trying to figure out when you got to for tre's house I got to for house it was Daylight or either if it went daylight I was already du okay I was already done then like it went to that next date okay so we don't exactly recall when you got the for tr's house but you were at for TR yeah okay all right so what's what's the relationship with like Trey he's just some dude that yall hooked up with you and your brothers or what I knew I knew for like he's like he always look up make sure we out of trouble make sure we go to school MH get us what we need and [ __ ] like make sure we straight the detective is trying to figure out the group dynamics since it played a large part in the Fatal confrontation with purcel got okay so you you you're chilling over for what do yall normally do watch movies play 2K play the game yeah all right so y all over playing the game um what was the evening like did your brothers come over any of your brothers come over at any point while you're at for tre's house no they don't come they don't come over it just like it's just like it just be me MH for be like for be like oh you since you be like going to school oh just me my brother a come over there though my brother at a crib okay all right so at at what point during the night did you become aware of the incident that happened close to your house the the shooting and all that that it was like it was like cuz I cuz I was asleep it happened boom I guess it happened I guess it happened then after that after like where you at where you at no no it happened it happened my where you at I guess he heard shot like crib he he probably know who that was so he probably like he like where you at mhm then I'm like I'm at for house what up he asked me he like like it's like it's like you going hear him though if you was him so I guess somebody had and got shot but he asked me where I was I he I mean did he tell you where he was at the time M okay but then um y'all had his phone right yeah y no I'm just not I'm not asking like like I I I think I know where it was at the time I'm asking was at a house he called me okay how do you know he was in the house either he was at the house or he was at the store okay one of those just assuming he was close by because he sees what's going on yeah he he heard it so I mean he had to be I think he the at the store he was at one of all right all right so did did your brother know the details of what had occurred at that point did he tell you on the phone hey this is why he's heard sock like he's heard sock like neighborhood the neighborhood like the neighborhood ain't know nothing like neighborhood ain't know nothing anybody from the building here doing this anybody from doing that call can make sure straight I mean typically you know Tuskegee is Qui a neighborhood you know what I mean so it's it's not like this stuff happens there all the time cuz it don't it don't don't never happen right there you know a nothing never happened over there no no I mean you go a few blocks north yeah but nothing ever happens there maybe you go a few block few block South you know it don't have a nonsense ke deep yeah so all right so at what point you become aware of kind of what had occurred cuz you know there was Instagram live that was out when um after that happened everybody posting like make sure make sure your people down the straight at the church mhm somebody had posted it and I had I had screenshot and I reposted it so I'm like I'm like I'm like make sure yall people straight they a lot of police over there about um like and like I think police over there everybody was over there somebody had and got shot the shooting took place as purcel was crossing the parking lot of a church where he was ambushed by Anderson it was all on Instagram D after all right so you saw the post on Insta what what's your insta Instagram handle my Instagram Mr G himself okay so m r Getty M Mr Mr dot uhhuh g e TT h i n all right okay um so you're seeing the stuff start rolling in um did any did anything that you saw any the posts on Instagram that mention like you your brother your family anything like that by name no no sir I just see like cheing about people everybody understand nobody knows nobody knows who get shots everybody's like check on check on your brothers I guess is like it was like it was traic it had to be traffic cuz what time was when somebody oh it was like U you know right at thust like 8 or something it had to be and I know everybody somebody had got shot yeah I know they was uploading yeah no doubt um so after that first phone call that you had with Daniel where he was like Hey were at did you hear the shots did you talk to Daniel anymore that night that's it okay um what about with Danny that's it um and you talk your Mom I okay okay see I I went to sleep to sleep so at what point did you learn who had been shot said I know who yeah at what at what point did you know did you find out who like who have been shot first poting oh on y people D probably like 30 45 minutes after that everybody posting P shot yeah um the guy that got shot what what you know him by what nickn name I call him he used to go to Leon I know he go to Leon want track football [ __ ] like that people I like I know of them in the city but I know oh yeah know know okay I just know I just know I just know he he from from somewh else m i just from somewh else got gotcha all right um any ISS to have a problem with them like that I don't even I don't even know you have a problem with be like oh yeah I know him I know him all right um at what point did you become aware um that I guess that your mom had kind of received death threats that night that night yeah that night yeah same that that happened yeah a know about that yeah it well it was enough that there was enough happened that night kind of people coming coming on strong against her thinking that Getty mob her sons M had told me about somebody she took little Danny and they went to your sister's house on briwood cuz they were scared to be the house so you didn't hear nothing about that that night Anderson claims that he didn't know about the threats against his mother but that isn't very likely it's something that at least one of his family members would have told him okay all right so the [Music] talk my that night you know a no phone so earlier that day all right we've got pretty decent information um that you and ji were together earlier that day you remember seeing ji that day J yeah no right there saying some about to fight I'm I'm trying I'm trying to hit somebody fight somebody had a fight a couple hours before had you been with had you been with Jama that day M okay okay and somebody I'm assuming your brother or your mother has already mentioned to you uh we we had questions about whether or not you had gotten into a fight with uh jayen and and um his his people jayen and James maybe but I I ring a yard somewhere where was you been raking a yard at I just sarcastic I know ibody I just sarcas don't I got you but so that's that's kind of what we're looking at so if if if there was an altercation between you if these guys jump you jump to Meek we've already had people tell us that that happen um some of the people involved in that incident have already told us that that happened so I'm asking for kind of your your take on that situation but you're telling me that there was no these guys didn't jump you no nobody a even a nobody touched me that day hit that day or nothing okay you're saying that day was there a point in time like earlier that these guys jump you it was it was never it was never I never came I never came scin to skin with these boys okay they never T they never touched me okay and and just to clarify your saying we never touched each other did y'all get into like now want like okay go ahead tell it be like Raps like RS okay like raps it be raps they been thinking they been thinking they thinking all this and that like like when something happened I don't know bro my brother was rapping about something yeah mypp about something trying to put this with that and this with this and all kind of J it just be like it just be like I don't know what it be bro people just think people just think we just be worried about them bro beefing with them or something it don't be none of that we been on Lane making music out the weight okay um so no actual fight you weren't standing and and we're saying no no no arguing or yelling back and forth face to face is what you're telling me the most it might have been was y'all rapping back and forth posting stuff on social media about each other is that what you're saying no it was it wasn't that it was just like it was really what the rap rap SP after it happened it was really with the rap the rap after that after okay um I'm G to stop taking notes for a minute so that I can focus on talking to you and making sure that you understand um what what I'm talking about I want you to feel me I want you to get what I'm saying um and you need to pay attention uh it it's it's serious at this point so we get called to a scene like this and there's a body laying on the ground and you know we start investigating it like a homicide um and when I say every time somebody's killed like statue says it's a homicide okay there's different levels of homicide different types of homicide there's justifiable homicide and there's like cold blooded premeditated homicide so we we generally start investigating everything like a cold blooded premeditated homicide cuz that's how we know when we get there bro um but then as we're investigating we start getting more information okay uh we get the Facebook live we we we get it we get it from from from Facebook from insta um so we've got the whole thing we watching it okay so see the live okay um on live calling out y'all calling out your brother Daniel specifically um and uh he doesn't just say I'm coming to your house he is walking down the street with his homeboy on the live ranting raving screaming at the top of his lungs angry as he can be you can tell that he means business he's talking about how he's going to hurt people how he's going to hurt y'all how he's going to hurt Daniel how he's bringing fire and he doesn't just say I'm coming to your house he says I am coming to and I quote 538 the detective has very specific details which lets Anderson know that he doesn't have much leeway to lie right now on my patreon you can watch one of the most disturbing scenes ever recorded on an interrogation room surveillance camera It's a combination of desperation and carelessness that resulted in something incredibly shocking this video is not suitable for sensitive viewers as it is extremely unsettling you won't find it on YouTube but you can watch it and many more exclusive videos on patreon.com stranger stories plus tus Street meaning he knows where you live his intentions are clear um I'm coming to your house I know where you live and and you can watch him getting closer and closer and closer to your house he knows right where he's going he's he's going through the church parking lot he's going the cut and he's going to 538 Tusk just like you said on live and this isn't like a f minute live this is like a 20- minute live it just goes on forever cuz it's from the time they start walking from like four four points all the way up up north and and through wanish and and through the church parking lot and they're going to your house this this thing happens 300 ft from your house bro um so he has made his intentions clear I'm going to the home of the Andersons at 5:38 tusi um I W Daniel but I'm going to get everybody I can um there is no doubt that he means business so we as investigators we got our detective hats on we're pretty good at what we do we say oh that guy was going there to hurt somebody when he got shot he he was going there to hurt somebody well we need to find out who that somebody is that he was going to hurt and we need to interview them because we're going to sit down and talk with them and their family members and they're going to say yeah um that dude was coming to get us so we had to you know we had to defend ourselves right um um because that is justifiable based on everything that we see on the live video this guy is coming to mess some people up he has said who he's going to mess up he said the house he's going to mess up and now he is just mere feet from the front door why you coming to do that well we'll get to that in a second um and he is said I'm I'm I'm coming there so we know at that point there's a very good likelihood if the people that did this will talk to us they're going to say that it was justifiable and the evidence on that 20 minute long Facebook live says oh yeah he was coming there to hurt somebody you can see how somebody have to defend themselves okay and this is not me pulling the wool over your eyes all right uh that's just the facts that's the way it is so then we start looking at things like okay not a premeditated murder but something justifiable okay so we just need to get the facts from the other side that's it um you know we come and we talk to you we talk to your brothers because think about it you're a smart kid um you're not Kidd anymore you're a man you're a smart man um you if you're in my position and this guy is saying I'm coming to 538 toi to get the Anderson people I'm G to get Daniel I'm going to get everybody that's there and bring him a fire um and then you see him on the live walking towards the house who would you think went out and for whatever reason maybe self-defense got into it with that guy you think it would be some of the people from 5:38 tuskey you think it would be Daniel because he's calling Daniel out by name um you think it would be any any of his brothers that were home okay that makes perfect sense that they would be the ones that would come out and keep this guy from getting to the house okay cuz he's already said just hear me out he's already said um I'm coming to get you I know where you live this is your address and he says the address I'm coming there right now and then just 300 ft from the front door of that house um is where the incident happens okay so as investigators we say okay these are the people he said he was coming to get and then he got got himself 300t away from the front door of their house so they must have been out there defending themselves because you know that's what the video shows us all right and then as we start digging into it a little bit further you know we learn about the incident with knowledge Gibson now I'm not going to talk about what happened at street with knowledge Gibson with his claims that Getty mob maybe your brother or some other Getty mom people shot up his mama's house cuz I don't know if that's true or not what I do know is true is that knowledge Gibson came into your house when your mama was there and held a gun to his to her head exactly I know that's true and you know that's true also know are super tight with knowledge so I know that y'all got beef with knowledge I know that knowledge has got beef with y'all knowledge gets locked up after what he did was he came into your house and he held a gun to your mama's head and now these people that are tight with knowledge are on live saying we're coming to your house we're bringing fire um we're going to [ __ ] some [ __ ] up um we know where you live it's it's 5:30 at tuskey if I was one of Miss Stephanie's sons and I saw that on live I would not let those people come in my house because they have already made their intentions clear that they are going to hurt Daniel they're going to hurt me if I'm in the house they're going to hurt Stephanie they're hurt my little brother Daniel um we cannot let this happen again because we know what they did the last time the last time knowledge came in with a gun and held it through Mama's head by making his actions sound reasonable or even Justified the detective hopes to lower Anderson's guard um you if I don't get on Facebook okay but let's just say that I'm in my house and somebody is walking down the street and they start yelling threads I'm coming to your house I'm going to kill your wife and your kids what do you think I'm going to do I'm not letting them come to the front door either I'm I'm going out there to where they are I'm not going to let them close to my house I'm not going to let them get my wife I'm not going to let them get my kids okay they made their intentions clear they're going to hurt my family I'm going to go out there and I'm going to keep them from doing that by any means necessary okay uh whatever Force they present I'm going to return it right back at them okay because I'm justified in doing so so that's what I'm here to ask you straight up did you or one of your brothers have to use some type of justifiable Force to keep these people from coming to your house and doing what they said they were going to do and what they had already done one time before that's what I want to know before we go any further okay NOP okay all right so that's where we're at um I appreciate you coming up here and talking good I have more questions I need to ask you because there's some things that have already come up in the interview with your mom okay um so what I'm going to do now I'm tell look at me understand because I don't want to I don't want to freak you out or put you in fear okay um I just spent a whole lot of time telling you about our case now I need to ask you questions by our case um that are more particular and probably to be quite Frank more confront ational um then questions about where you were at a particular time okay uh so I'm going to advise you if you're Miranda rights you're not under arrest right now okay you came up of your own free will okay I have no plans on putting you in handcuffs but you may say something that's incriminated incriminating um you might tell me a lie you could say something that's incriminated you might admit that you have knowledge of this okay so I need to read you your rights and make you aware of them okay um this is the same thing that's going on in the other room with your mom right now um and I need to ask you some questions about the things that she is saying all right so you have the right to remain silent anything you say can and will be used against you in court of law you have the right to talk to a lawyer and have them present with you while you're being questioned if you can't fire if you can't afford to hire a lawyer won't be appointed to represent you before any question if you wish and you can decide at any time to exercise these rights not answer any questions or Mak any statements um do you understand each of the rights okay um to my knowledge you haven't asked uh for an attorney at any point today all right uh having your rights in mind do you wish to talk to me now um you can talk to me about the incident if you come to a point where you don't want to talk to me you just tell me you don't want to talk to me anymore and and we're done and I'll go go sit in on the interview with your mom um but I have some questions I need to ask you about some things that she's saying I have some questions I need to ask you about the video footage um and I have some more questions I need to ask you about um different people that you may or may not know because if you're if I'm taking your word and you're telling me that I didn't do this then my next question would be obviously did Daniel do it could Danny have done it um what about Duke uh what about some of your other friends you know those are going to be the questions I have because right now we are solely focused I'll be honest we're focused on you guys and I've already told you why all right right so if there's evidence that sways us and shifts us away from that I need to know what it is so if you're willing to talk to me I'll talk to you all right are you willing to talk to me I am I willing to talk are you willing to continue talking to me at this point yeah okay what I'm going to do is I'm going to get you to sign right here this is not any kind of admission of guilt or anything else that's just saying that I read that form to you um as this our policy you know so the question that I guess the first question I want to ask you you're you're telling me that that you didn't do it do you know who did no I didn't do it I know who did it okay um and you're saying you were at I keep calling him Trey four but it's for try right it don't it don't matter well his jersey numberers his jersey number I don't want to mess it up but uh he did he did for for State yeah yeah I talked to him I talk to him um and I don't believe what he said to be honest with you no you say that I I I have my doubts that that you were over there all night and that's what I want to ask you about um I interviewed him um shortly after this happened other than than his story which didn't make a whole lot of sense there's nothing that really says that you were actually over there at his house all night long spending the night um you know from pulling video and Wii and talking to him um you know and then we go back myself and Shear we go back and we re reinv him and this probably like three months ago now did he tell you that that we came back and talked to him again so he moved so he had moved he was at a different apartment complex um we get there and uh there's for tree uh for tree doesn't come to the door there's another 16-year-old kid that comes to the door um that he's taken under his wing and for tree uh tells us more or less the same story but he kind of mes up some details about whether you were there the whole time or not there the whole time um and now your mom is in the other interview room and she just said that you weren't in for trce there's a discrepancy between the witnesses about Anderson's location and the detective is more inclined to believe Anderson's mother all night that you were at home so Tri is she Tripp the whole night okay I'm God okay okay cuz the message I just got was she says danaz was at home um your mama loves you she your mama loves you uh but she's ready for this to come to an end I know come to cuz she she like what they coming out kids even did just now sure so here's the other thing um we got the live back and not just the live but we got all the comments and all the messages that were coming in and out of the live you were on the live bro I heard I was on the live on live cuz I you got live video M so so so what you telling me you going to see you going to see my ig name join mhm you can show me yeah you can show me that you show me if you can show me that right now she right now number one you're going to take my word for it um I haven't lied to you yet I'm not going to lie to you all right you're going to take my word for it at this moment okay if Sher Bennett who's the lead investig on this case after she done showing that video to your mom you can you can watch it too if she'll let you okay I know who going live I I know nobody to Y say somebody somebody on live talk about this and that well who else has access to your Instagram where they have your password and everything else you have nobody never have my password yeah so Mr Getty mob himself joins the live wild it is wild and I a live okay so that's the question I got for you is mom's given some indication that you might not have been at forre house um insta looks like Mr Getty mob himself is joining joining the live and throwing house and you telling me I join the live and you telling me I see someone alive well no what I'm telling you is that your mama says that you want at for tre's house that you was at home okay that's my understanding I thought was I thought was at my sister house no no no she left and went to your sister's house after all this thing happened because she was getting threats to my knowledge your mom your mama said that night when we talked to her that night that that her and Danny was home okay so they came back home no they were at home when it happened they left after the shooting within an hour or two of the shooting because people had come to her house threatening her and she'd be getting threatening stuff maybe on phone calls or social media I can't remember which on Facebook yeah so they got out of Dodge and they went to briwood okay but that's neither here or there your mama is giving some indications over there that you were at home okay in a little while bring your mom in here we can talk together your mom is going to sit there and look at you I and say yeah you was home that night you got you got to tell her that she's a liar don't tell me um cuz I don't think the stue allow during the interview the detective plans to bring in Anderson's mother she might be more effective in getting him to talk about um she's been through too much now so your mom is saying that Instagram is saying that you logged on um and that she was watching the live and the comments were going out okay so that's the evidence we have you're telling me it wasn't you what I said on know huh I said someone I can't remember I have to ask Sher this case 8 months old she knows it like the back of her hand I mean she can show it to you nobody saying nobody okay so that's the question I have for you is who would have your phone who would have your device who would have your password that could get in your Instagram and join a live like that and you're telling me nobody I'm telling you nobody got my pass so you said you said you said comments was going I don't know what I said I join that I join that l boy like going live saying nothing nobody live I'm hly I I I I that wild cuz I want I want what what for tells I'll step over there and clarify that in a minute um so look at this from our perspective from my perspective from anybody that is a rational reasonable person when I talk to to Daniel Daniel says yeah of course he gave two versions of where he was when this happened right um his last version he's with Zoe and as they're coming home he sees the flashing lights over by the church they pull up in the yard he goes inside your mom's there Danny's there but you're not so he calls you on the phone just like you say and he says yo you all right and you say yeah I'm good and he's like okay um just making sure sure and that's pretty much the end of the call I'm like okay where was he he's like oh he was at for tre's house like all right um y'all didn't discuss like what was going on 300 ft from the door that there had been a shooting there and there's like you know a thousand cops parked over there blue lights everywhere he's like no not really no we talk about it okay and I tell him hey uh what's what's your brother's insta he tells me oh Mr G himself like all right well he was logged on to the live so why why wouldn't he tell you what he saw on the live [ __ ] I don't know you telling me he was logged on I was like yeah he was logged on to the live so you're telling me that Dan quz like never told you like what had led up to this and that doesn't make any sense if you're logged on to the live and you're at for try's house threatening to kill your brother threatening to come to the house to hurt you to hurt your mama to do what knowledge has already done once before if you saw that on live your first instinct should be to call your brother and say hey are you home cuz you need to watch out this guy's coming to get you his mama home cuz this guy's coming to the house he knows the address he said the address he's walking to the house I can tell he's walking that wanish on the live he's getting closer to the house get Mama and get Danny out of the house get them out that's what a person would have done if they're over at Fort Trey's house watching the live and we know you're watching the live that's what you would have done I'm I'm tring y got to show me I me nobody Li so so so you telling me I said something you see me you say it say m and you see I said something on live yeah Anderson is not going to willingly admit that he was logged in at the time as the detective lists everything he knows you can see Anderson's eyes Dart around as he tries to come up with a better lie D even if you didn't say anything whether you said anything or you didn't say anything that doesn't mean anything to me it doesn't mean anything to me and I'll tell you why it doesn't mean anything they say what they're going to do when they get there they say what they're going to do they say where they're going they say who they're going to do it to there is no doubt that they mean to do violence there's no doubt so whatever you comment or don't comment doesn't mean anything it don't mean a damn thing it doesn't change things at all because we already know what they were coming to do you could have said oh you guys come on over and have ice cream it wouldn't matter you could have said if you guys come over here I'm going kill you it wouldn't matter because we already know what they're coming to do we already know that if somebody has to defend themselves in that situation it's probably justifiable we just need to hear from them so if we've got electronic evidence showing that you were watching the live then we would expect for you to call your brother to call your mother to call your little brother and say get out of the house run hide these guys are coming over there I'm all the way over here at Fort Trey's house I can't get there in time I'm in I can't get there in time you need to get out of the house cuz they're almost there they're getting closer Mama they're getting closer get out of the house but you didn't do that you didn't make that phone call from Fort trace's house to warn them about CU you weren't at for tr's house you was at home you were at home I think that big brother Daniel wasn't at home I it was you and then we go to after I got a call after like two calls a got to after two calls I even up look I'm trying I'm trying to tell you for you to show me Mr giddy himself join somebody live I'm hearing you I join nobody live nor coming nothing com don't matter you say that don't matter see me a I don't join nobody live you would definitely remember this because they're on there for 20 minutes as they walking towards your house all the way from Four Points calling your brother out by name I would expect if they're calling your brother out by name it would have been him that stepped up and defended the family he swears it wasn't him he swears it wasn't him it wasn't me in so if you're swearing it's not you that you're not there either there's only two people in the house that's you and little Danny I'm sorry Mama and little daddy come on now that's what I'm talking about not been doing like that my little doing and and that's hey bro I feel you man your your mama would have called the police would call the police she'd called the police and the next person she would have called was y'all to let y'all know so y'all get lay low she would called the police and she would called y'all Danny I'll be straight with you I didn't know Danny existed until we talked to your mama and Danny was there you know why cuz you and your brother have had few bumps with the police so you got your names and some reports okay Danny ain't never de Danny ain't never there's no record him any law enforcement datab base prior to that night at all they got they got stuff in me in yeah you're in there what they say I it wasn't anything bad it was anything bad it was just something you know saying that you you know he was Daniel's brother or something like that I don't know you know um wasn't anything horrible but little Danny even got he a even so much as got his name in a police report anywhere in the state you know um he goes to school and plays Sports and looks like stays out of trouble and that's great you know for the most part it look like that's what you do too now my brother got shot M that's [ __ ] yeah yeah so I'm I'm asking you and here's the thing it's the same thing I asked Daniel if it wasn't you literally the people say we're we're coming to the Anderson house on T 5:30 sayy I want Daniel I'm gonna get everybody we're we're bringing fire I'm Gonna Hurt everybody there okay and then right as they're stepping through the cut from the church to your street 300t from your door is when it goes down it's because somebody knows that they're coming to that house and somebody knows they have to defend themselves so I'm asking you was it you was it little Danny or was it Daniel and the reason I'm asking this is because we're tired we're tired of this case we're tired of not knowing no y we know and we don't stop working these we can't we got to keep working so that be our job so what's going to happen is we've got all of this these little bits of evidence and it's going to get tied together and let me tell you how it's going to get tied together because only one person got shot and two people ran away and then we interviewed them and you know you know they told us the liying to you about anything he basically told us to go [ __ ] ourselves you know why cuz the code of the street says you don't talk to the police then you know what happened one of those two who was on his heart head you the knowledge was wrong about what he did this is what he told us he come in this interview room okay about five more times and every time he came in the interview room he came up here because he said he wanted to talk to us he wanted to tell us who we saw she to his friend and every time he would come in here and his body would lock up and he would start crying and he would start shaking it's because he wanted to get it out he wants to tell us who it was he saw shoot his friend you know why I can't do it it's that stupid coat of the street and he would sit there and he would go silent just tears streaming down his face who this person that was there that was there with Josh and you'd know him if I told you his name but I'm not going going to and he's he he's like he's sitting there and he's crying he's like I want to tell you I can't I can't they just won't let me they won't let me who and I'm asking who and he's like the streets my friends everything everything about the way he was raised everything about the culture he's found himself in that tells him tells him he can't snitch no matter what even if his best friend got shot and he knows his best friend was wrong he knows he was wrong what he was doing but he still wants to tell us what he saw and he tearing him up he eating him up inside so five times he comes in the last time it was on it was about to say it he was about to say who he saw and he just couldn't he just couldn't he said I can't I said I still can't do it I still can't do it he's crying and he's shaking and he's sweating and he just won't say because the code of the street says you don't talk to the police that's the only thing that's holding back but you know what he's got plans like you do he's getting out and he will get out probably just like you will um by getting a job going to school getting bet tray and leave the neighborhood behind but I guarantee you probably not a month or two is going to go behind he's going to be back in this room again because he wants to talk every time he's in this room he gets this much closer to giving up that name a bull trigger on his friend okay now he's with a witness on the brink of talking Anderson has a limited amount of time to convince the police to believe his story first defend themselves okay but he's probably going to come in here the next time because he's getting softer every time he comes in here he's getting a little bit softer every time he's going to come in here probably the next time he sit in this room he's going to give that name up and that name is either going to be you it's going to be Daniel or it's going to be Danny it's going to be one of those three that's why though huh I said why be anybody it no no all the beef with knowledge that you and your family's had okay we're being told that there was a fight you're saying it didn't happen that's fine we're also told there was a fight that day all right this guy is on Facebook live calling out you your brother your family and saying he's coming to your house as he's stepping through the cut 300t from your house is when this and it goes down and shots are fired who else would it be somebody random just happened me walking along and says I want to Rob this guy as he's doing a Facebook live with his two friends behind him um ranting about how he's going to go kill the Andersons you know what I mean so tell who he with cuz he from the other side of town from the other side of town you wait over here that will be the most random thing in the entire freaking world okay so you can see if you're telling me it's not you then that's fine hold on to that um don't take offense that that I say that the evidence would Point towards the Anderson Brothers okay as being the been the whole oh get them all get them all was him or was him was him everybody saying because they see the same things that we saw it's just we we see we see even more evidence I mean we're taking in into account video footage cell phone evidence we're taking witness statements we're taking DNA evidence you know ballistic evidence all this stuff we're combining so what I'm telling you is we got all these small pieces of evidence and all it's going to take is for this kid the other one or somebody else that knows about this to come in and say this is who did it this threat isn't very concerning for Anderson he knows that it is unlikely that his friends will cooperate with the police and one of the two people that was there is close to Breaking the other one next time he gets hooked up and putting the back of the police car what's he going to say I can solve a murder and he's going to put his spin on it not not not y'all spin okay he's going to put his spin on it but he's going tell us who pull the trigger because it's beneficial for him the other kid wants to do what's right cuz he's eating his heart up it's ripping his soul out the other one he's going to do it to protect himself next time he gets arrested he's going to give it up no doubt so one way the other one of those two dudes in the very near future is going to say who pull the trigger all right one of them is going to put his own spin on it the other one is like yeah happened um that's where we're at and all it's going to take is it's going to be that one eyewitness or that one witness that knows what happened to come forward and put a name in front of us put a face in front of us and then we've got all this evidence pointing towards Anderson's that one little thing is going to be all it takes okay to lock somebody up and because nobody from and I'm just going to say the other side because you're saying it wasn't you nobody from the other side is stepping forward and saying you know what yeah these guys were coming to our house uh they already threatened us one time before held a gun in Mama's head they're on live talking about what they're going to do to us when they get there and we see them and they're actually coming through the cut towards our house so yeah we we had to do something we had to do something right then before they hurt us before they hurt mama before they hurt little Danny you see what I'm saying nobody from your side is saying that it's coming forward and saying yeah I I had no other choice you know so is that justifiable yeah could be I'm saying somebody you can't you can't you can't you can't tell somebody about something that you don't know nothing about yeah you don't about I agree get that's and and and who when you say when you say you can't tell some somebody something about something you don't know about that you who you referring to you talking about yourself or you talking about a potential Witness I'm talking about for me like I'm for me and you like for me to tell you how can I tell you something I nothing about [ __ ] if you don't know anything about it I wouldn't expect you to tell me but what what I'm saying is for Trey Aly you don't stand up um you know for Tre has already got another dude that's under his wing um for Trey is his like I said his alab you just does it doesn't stand up your mom give us some indications that you were at home okay um I'll walk over there and I'll clarify that did she say oh he might have been home or did she say no he's fineing he was at home he was at home um and then we got your insta user handle logging in watching this live of this guy threatening you your brother and your entire family and not only is he saying that he's coming to your house but any fool looking at that can tell he is actually coming to the house he didn't even just say I'm coming to your house he said I'm coming to 538 tus quote unquote and you can see him getting closer and closer and closer and by the time he h that church parking lot there ain't no doubt and he's talking about bringing fire he's talking about everything else and then he steps to the cut and when he steps to the cut there ain't no doubt there ain't no doubt what he's doing cuz he ain't just stand in the church parking lot then he stepping he stepping into the cut he's coming to the house ain't no doubt so if somebody did something to protect the family then they just got to step up and say that the longer this goes on the more the shadier it starts to look all right I've already told you what would happen if if somebody was standing out threatening you know my family with weapon in the street they started walking towards the my door yelling and screaming about what they're going to do to my wife and my kids I've already told you what I'd do I would meet their force with my own force and I will be justified in doing so you know because you cannot let anything happen to your family your mom is already going to put through a so okay sit tight for a second you want a drink or anything going with moment right yeah you going to take a long time to come back huh said you going to take a long time to come back no apologize to you it was uh your mom when I said that it was your mom that said that uh you W home that night I was I was incorrect so I'm sorry but you to believe that um it's about time to go or no no um but because it was your mom and Danny um Danny told us what happened what H what Danny told us that you were at home D knew I was hm he knew I was no you told me you were at for trce yeah for he knew where I was no no no no Danny said you weren't at for trce he said you were home on to ski that no you weren't no you weren't Danny said we didn't have any choice we were defending ourselves def for what to do what Danny says y'all were logged on you're us your name I say I got it live you never see me nobody live I know where I was you and now you're going to let little Danny to all that Danny Danny tells it just like I'm telling it just like I've been telling it to you just like I told told a Daniel Daniel was Wo you weren't at for tre's house you went to forrey's house afterwards but no you weren't tell tell me why I was that's C your little brother says that you were a h your little brother says that y'all was logged on he showed you the live y'all looking at the live together I nothing y live video y going see me y see as y see that I'm God see that what it say when you join somebody live yeah it says that it says Mr Getty himself has joined it says that you were on the live so see your brother says little Danny says that you were home on Tuskegee that y'all were on the live y'all watched it y'all saw these guys coming to your house talking about all the things we've been talking about what they were going to do to y'all it's you and little Danny there okay little Danny's in there crying saying didn't have no choice they was coming to get us I know I yeah you were at Tuskegee y can't who me that I was at Full House brother I don't need to prove it to you I'm not I I told you this coming here coming in and you think I'm lying to you there some some some white 40 something year old cop that don't care I don't want you to go down and burning flames for this and not graduate this year and not go and get your your your your trade school degree learn how to weld and make all kinds of money I don't want that to happen [Music] okay I've told you everything about you saw that live you don't need me to explain to you was in the live you know that that guy and his friends were coming to do business oh nobody Instagram live I wasn't on nobody live so Danny is lying or am I lying if you seen M himself joing somebody you got show me that cuz I didn't join nobody I don't even follow these people I was like what in the way you see me doing that live do you not see the olive branch that we've been offering you and your brothers all day long that Olive Branch being these people were coming to hurt you so you had to do something that was justifiable do do you not I know what you're talking about I know what you're talking about I'm not no I'm not cuz I don't know what y talking about I can't I can't I understand what you saying you saying like somebody come to do something to y y got to defend yeah I know what you're talking about s defense I know what you're talking about right I know what you're talking I'm not we're not trying to hard time you we're not trying to say that you did some premeditated murder because you having a beef with these people these people had a beef with y'all a serious beef you know Anderson refuses to admit he was watching the live stream even though it has been proven that no one else could log into his account knowledge don't come to your house once time now knowledge knowledge's friends coming to your house the second time oh why why are they coming to the house I'll tell you why they're coming to the house because knowledge got locked up for what he did to your mama and they got to get retaliation for knowledge so they can prove to their heart you know and all that other junk all that other [ __ ] they're talking that's why they're coming there to the house and they're they're going to they're going to do what knowledge did except this time they're talking about bringing fire they're talking about hurting people they talking about everything else we going move know where we at we GNA call yall that's what what we got yall for for whatever reason and it's probably because you didn't think there was enough time and hey guess what you might have been right there wasn't enough time what that you had to go out there and take care of it you had to protect Danny you had to protect the house you had to protect your mama and anybody else would have got caught up in that so you stepped up because Daniel wasn't there you was the only one I know where I was you weren't a Tre Force Police know where I was no I'm sure you weren't you weren't there no matter how many times you say it to your you can't even make yourself believe it you can't make me believe it at this point okay I've already told you we talked to forray all right to we wanted to we didn't talk just talk to him once we talked to him two or three times okay and and I'm sure that he called and told you that we came and talk to him I can guarantee he' tell you everything that he said and I can also guarantee you that the last time we went talked to him a couple months ago it's like I said he's got somebody else that's under his wing now somebody else he's taken care of and I don't think he's had any contact with you for a long time he didn't have no loyalty to you none Okay so I didn't necessarily need Danny to tell me that you weren't at for tre's house I already knew you weren't at for tr's house Danny admitt that you weren't at for tre's house it's a big step it's a big step for him it's actually a big step for you it's a big step for resolving this so at least do me the solid and don't sit here and lie to me because I haven't lied to you about anything all right tell me what happened start off by telling me how the video made you feel the live I was on a live video you you weren't on the live no sir okay when you say I wasn't on the live are you saying did Danny join the live on your phone and then show it to you no I have my phone okay so you never saw the live is what you're what's you're saying I don't know nothing about no live that's what I'm telling you I don't know about no live did you know these guys were coming to your house no okay okay you know I I I can only ask so many times I just know you I just know you do your job I am I'm I'm trying to help everybody involved here because as it stands we've been going after you know we've been chasing us down for so so long um this is going to sound bad so don't don't take it the wrong way about what he was doing okay that would be like anybody that broke into your house in the middle of the night they got they got what's coming to them didn't they no matter how many times he implies that purcel may have deserved to be shot Anderson doesn't rise to the bait okay I get that I understand it so you going have to let me hold that for a second I'm not going to go to E phone or anything like that without a warning on that I'm just sit it over here so out the way um I feel for you because you got put in the situation um now I'm not going to sit here and and say for a second that maybe y'all didn't do do something in knowledge or your brother didn't do something in knowledge beforehand knowledge knowledge Gibson the guy that came into your mama's house and put the gun at her the guy that we talked about for the last 45 minutes off um so I'm not going to pretend for a second that maybe Daniel or somebody else in the Getty mom didn't do something knowledge to cause him to come over there and do what he did to your mom maybe um regardless what he did to your mom was a horrible thing okay I'm sorry that you got put in a position where you're home and somebody's coming to your house saying they're going to do harm to you all right nobody deserves to be in that position but hey you were the one there all right so I'm asking you and you're telling me things that I don't believe that I was at for tre's house and I wasn't logged on to to live your own brother says your own flesh and brother your own flesh and blood that was in the house with you says he was home and we were watching the live and we had to do it do what what do you think have to go out there and meet that guy that's coming to your house to do harm to you to keep him from getting to the house to keep him from getting the little Danny to keep getting to your mama to getting to everybody you know she crazy the whole thing is crazy the that's where Society is is is gotten to today you know I mean you're trying to do the right thing Danny's trying to do the right thing I don't know so much about Daniel be honest with you sounds like he gets in a little of trouble here and there but you're you're stuck at in a world where as a young black man your chances of being shot by another young black man are just incredibly high and we just can't figure out a way to stop it and in this case these people are coming to your house they're coming to your house for whatever reason and I'll be honest with you whatever reason they think they had wasn't a good enough reason whatever had happened before wasn't a good enough reason to threaten people like that to come to their house talk about bringing fire talk about hurting people they didn't have no reason to do that none whatever beef was there wasn't that serious they should not have done what they did they were wrong for doing what they did so I'm telling you I don't believe that you were at for trays I believe Danny I believe that you were logged on that you were watching the live not only because Danny says so but because Instagram says so I know if I was watching that video and this this person is calling me out and coming towards my house I know how it made me feel I'm asking you how it made you feel because how you felt is what's important here how you felt sets the tone for everything that happens from this moment for it Anderson does not make eye contact and is constantly fidgeting in his seat to keep himself distracted ignoring that line of questioning isn't going to make it go away and the detective is going to keep pressing until he gets Anderson to start answering honestly when an officer has to take somebody's life in the line of duty when somebody's a threat to the officer presents a gun a knife whatever tries to hurt tries to kill the officer and the officer has to shoot that person what's the test on that for for how for for whether or not the officer was justified there's been so so much of this in in the media I know you pay attention what's the legal test of whether or not the officer did the right thing the legal test is did that person who was threatening the officer presents an actual threat did the officer recognize that threat was the officer put in fear by that threat okay I'm telling you that based on what I saw on the video [Music] what did it look like to you what is Danny mistaken didn't show you the live I don't know no live did he tell you about the live mm- I know about no live know somebody on live on the way to our house coming and do anything somebody they coming to kill this and that and do this and do that and burn stuff up what they coming to do that for why yeah because of whatever have been done and knowledge you have Mama's House caus knowledge gibon happed to the house that what it cause knowledge Gibson to come to your mama's house and put a gun to her head um whatever other beef have been going on the fact that these people were typ with knowledge Gibson all right that's why they were coming to your house if I if if I was if I was an Anderson and I lived in tusi okay if I if I'm your your your fourth brother Nick uh and I live with you guys and we're brothers and I lived and I was watching that live I would be scared all right I would have some kind of anxiety some kind of fear that they're going to hurt my family I'm telling you the evidence shows that you were logged on to the live your brother says that you were watching the live okay and that you were at the house not at for tr's and for tree came back you sorry he ain't backing you um and you're still sitting here telling me that I didn't see the live I was at Fort TRS my brother Danny's line Fort tr's line the electronic evidence Trail the Instagram provider is lying the live is lying I wasn't watching I never said I never said about somebody was lying I just told you where I was right you telling me where you were but you weren't you weren't at for Trey's house when this happened you went there afterwards you walked there afterwards and that's okay it's a okay cuz I don't know what the hell you talking about it's okay it's it's okay that you didn't tell us to begin with when we talked to you the first time it's even okay that Danny didn't tell us the first time all right all of that's okay we're giving you an opportunity to make it right now [Music] and to walk us through it if this is justifiable then it's justifiable okay I mean we've literally given you that Olive Branch and just asked we've told you what we think about how this got started we told you how this would make us feel if we were in somebody else's shoes you know you saw the live you know what he was threatening to do so if we can't get over that hum if you can't tell us exactly what happened H say if you can't tell us what happened then we've got an issue because right now at this moment in time everything is pointing towards you okay your brother brother is saying we ain't had no choice guess what the live is saying yeah they were coming there they probably didn't give you much Choice it wasn't no getting around that they were coming they were almost there what nothing nothing I mean there's I can't I can't say it for you you know it's up to you at this point I mean Danny's over there talking I talking to huh I was talking too yeah but D Danny's telling us that that you you were at home and Danny's telling us that you were watching the live and Danny's telling us that there was a threat coming towards your house is what what Danny's telling us and you're telling me that what Danny's saying isn't true and that you were at Fort Trey's house and that you never saw the live and came out my mouth about said I'm just telling you where I was okay all right is what you're telling me the truth yes okay well in this set of circumstances there can really only be one truth y I join the live some the live now the only other option which we're going to have to explore so yeah we did Stretch our time frame out a little bit today unfortunately I'm probably not going to get lunch like I wanted cuz it's 3:15 um but believe it or not I mean I I care about this case and I care about you guys and everybody else invol it too much to go eat a sandwich right now the only other option that I can see is that Danny had your phone Danny logged into live from your phone and that's why it says you know Mr get himself until they can get past this sticking point Anderson won't answer anything about the rest of the night the detective has to get Anderson to at least admit that he was at the scene of the crime and the Danny went out and did this that Danny had to go defend the house defend himself that's the only other option that when Danny says we had to go do it it wasn't a we and it was just him but I mean You' told me that nobody else would have your phone nobody else would have the passcode you know so was it I was standing now 16 he was 15 in this Happ so was it little Danny I don't know I don't know what side did you ask me something I know I can't tell you something I know I know I wouldn't I would never ask you to tell me something you don't know because that doesn't do anybody any good but Danny's in there in tears right now I think part of that is because he's worried about what you're going to [Music] think or what Daniel's going to think because he gave it up and the other part of him is probably scared because he doesn't 100% believe us that we to feel like these people were coming over your house meant to do your harm I don't know why he wouldn't believe that he saw the live we saw the live you saw the live there's no doubt we show that live to a prosecutor at the state attorney's office and they're going to go oh yeah yeah that guy was going over there to do some harm you know what I mean huh so you know what I mean I mean it's it's just that simple we we can stop we should stop pretending like you didn't see the live at this point because we know that you did you saw the live I saw the live we know what he was coming over there to do can I ask you what you're so adamant about saying I didn't see the live the the live cuz I know I know okay I'm going to ask you this again and I want the truth this time were you at for tree's house at the time this happened absolutely were you okay was were you at for tre's house when the live was going out and this incident happened yeah how long you can take now I how long you going to take now um it's going to take a while longer now I'm taking my phone too for the time being yes sir I'm not going to go through it and there with your mom um just opened up a whole lot more all right one no I said he opened up a whole lot more since the first detective hasn't made much progress a second has been brought in they might be planning to switch up techniques you and Danny and Daniel even after this happened y'all talked about it and y'all were going to tell the truth about what happened cuz you realized that these guys were coming over there to do harm but the last minute y'all got scared scared of what scared that you're going to get in trouble for something and that's what you're scared of now how you get in trouble for something you going do brother we are way past that if you want I promise you if you want we can get up out of this interview right now and you're going to get charged okay that's not a threat I'm just telling you that everything that your brother has told us and everything that we know okay I don't need to go over it again okay but everything that Danny tells us is backed up all right by evidence we already have starting with you being locked on starting with us knowing that you're not not at for tre's house when this happens okay certain details that he gave about what you told him occurred and I'm not going to tell you what those details are because I want you to tell me and that's not me trying to pull the wool over your eyes certain details that Danny gave about things that you told him occurred we know to be true okay um Danny's in tears Daniel's still sticking up for you but when we sit down in the room with Danny in your mind Daniel's probably going to come clean too not because he hates you or because he's not strong enough but because he knows there's no point in in playing this game anymore there's none if you realized before the three of y'all put your heads together and y'all talked and y'all said okay well we know this is what happened this is what's on the live um this is what the police are going to know because it's on the live why don't we just just go tell them what happened these guys came over and they're threatening harm and this is what we had to do what you had to do why don't we just tell them and y'all said y'all decided okay let's do it and then at the last minute y'all get scared if you realize back then that telling the truth was the right thing to do and you know it explains the entire situation why now is it because more time has went by it's hard what you talking the time and all this well then why don't you just tell us what happened tell you what I'm trying to see if you already so-called CL that you know what happened why you got ask me what happened because you're the only one that can claim self-defense for yourself no one else can do it no one else can do defense for what what did I do here's what he said you shot somebody you shot and killed somebody you shot and killed somebody plain and simple your options are tell us what happened cuz we we've seen the live we can't claim self-defense for you okay or you want to go down the first-degree murder route and spend the rest of your life in prison those are your two options but you're not helping yourself because you think you're in here trying to be hard and you think you can deny it you think you can deny it but you can't be hard it's not hard I know it's not I I I know that you're tore up and I know that you're scared it it's not necessarily you trying to be hard it comes off that way but I know from talking to you that you're scared and that you're tore up about what you had to do all right wow Danny's tore up for you he's tore up for himself and he's he's literally over there in tears I don't know what for bro I know I think because you got put into this situation and he's that he's put in the situation because y heard what y heard and Y thought it was us no your brother just told me it was you you told him you left that house after seeing that live video and said you're going to go defend your gu yourselves the second detective is more harsh and accusatory taking on the role of bad cop if Anderson is merely afraid and not just trying to get away with murder this approach may work you don't remember saying that to him no and then walking out the door and doing and then telling him how you did it the details he has given us the details he has given us adds up we we know from the live video that the details that he's giving are true you see Mr get himself join Instagram live I sure did I did an in I did a search one on your uh Instagram page and got that told you I wasn't L your mom I never done a l i said someone Al too I said someone Al mhm never said nothing Li okay fine I told you before it doesn't matter it wouldn't matter if you said I'm G to come out there and kill you it doesn't matter it don't matter don't matter I just make sh it does not matter okay for all I know Danny commented on live holding your phone don't know don't care it doesn't matter what matters is these guys were coming to your house to harm you after they had already done what they did to your mom okay that's that's what matters is how you felt whether or not you were defending yourself and what you did in detail that we can back up with evidence and I would hope that it would match up with what Danny told us so that we know we're not getting lied to again now I never got lied to in the first place what I never get lied to in the first place you're lying to us now you were not at for tre's house you weren't at for tre's house and you were watching the live okay we can start right there you've been to me about that forever it's starting to make me feel like I'm not very good at my job and that hurts my feelings and please don't hurt my feelings and don't insult my intelligence by continue to lie to me and tell me that you're at for tree's house I've already told you for tree has got another guy over his house and he don't care he don't care about you anymore you think I care for care about you I don't know probably not I'm saying you're Alibi all I'm saying is he's not Alibi yet no he's he's trying to make he's not Alibi you that's the point your brother your brother's not Alibi either he's saying that you were there in the house told you do I need to bring your brother in here and let you see him BR in and let you say to him brother you're lying on me bring him in that's cuz that's what you're saying you're saying that Danny is lying to you that's what you're saying bring you're saying that Danny is lying and I'm telling my mouth that never came my mouth I'm telling you never bring here mama in here in a minute your mom was sitting right there when Danny told us every bit of it too I never said Dan was never came out of my mouth it never came out of your mouth but you but what you're saying is that what Danny's saying you're saying that the statement that Danny's given is not true and yes yes Dan quiz I know that you do not verbatim say that what Danny's saying is not true but you're saying the exact opposite of what Danny is saying you're saying how at for tr's house I was never on alive and I didn't go out there to defend the house and to defend my family that's what you're saying Danny on the other hand is saying he wasn't at forre house he on T can't bring him in and he saw the live you know this this is this is your your attempt to to try to figure out they must be lying to me about what what daddy is saying they must be making I know start all I know they have lied to me yet but they might be lying to me about this maybe I can just hold out a little while longer just hold out a little while longer and it'll all go away well it's not all going to go away because we believe Danny because Danny's version of events is supported by the evidence this is not about pinning something on you this is about finding out what your emotions were at the time whether or not you felt threatened it's just like she said if this was justifiable if you were acting in self-defense then only you only only you can tell us that if we close the book on this right now it ain't a self-defense case it ain't a self-defense case because you didn't say we given you plenty of opportunities plenty of opportunities to walk us through what happened in detail to tell us how you felt about the threats you be made against you your brother and your family to tell us about how you felt when you realized that these people were coming to your house for real they're calling out your address you see them walking down the road getting closer and closer and closer coming at w you see them coming across the church parking lot you know that they are for real coming to your house and you remember what happened the last time one of these group members came to your house there we go but you're not telling us that you're saying I was in for tre's house and I don't know anything about a Al and that's a lie and I know you're not saying that Danny's lying and I'm sorry I hope it doesn't make you too mad but I'm saying that you're lying say I had a live video I want to talk you also sat in this interview room back in you remember back in July and you told me you saw the live then you not remember that I did not say that cuz you even gave me your Instagram account so I can pull your social media not even you ask me what is your Instagram I gave you my instam I never told you I was on nobody live you said you knew about the live yes you did not even not even worried not even worried about what you said that what you say now is what's important what you don't say now is equally as important Anderson doesn't believe that his brother has told the detectives anything and although in this case they are being honest Anderson is right to be skeptical they aren't under any obligation to tell the truth because if you continue to Stone Wallace this case goes one way if you can show us how this was justified just like your little brother thinks then it goes a completely different way all right I'm sorry you're in this position I know that you didn't make this bed completely by your they were coming at your brother they were coming at your house you tell me Danny didn't come while you were laying on the bed come wake you up and show you the live no so you're saying he's lying wake me up by the live Danny came into your room and where you were laying down and showed you the live video I call that nobody me up live Bill Clinton didn't recall a lot of things okay this is this is this is you and your brother right now this is you and Danny this is Danny trying to do what's right knowing that he's helping and I don't mean just helping us and I don't think he's helping you and he is because he knows exactly what we know because he saw the lot and he know knows that there was a threat coming at you coming at him coming at the house right then and there at that moment y got a live video y y'all heard my name yes we got the live video y hear my name on the video would you stop would you just stop I'm trying to ask y a question did y'all hear my name I'm telling you we don't have to tell you everything we got you wouldn't be sitting your ass in this chair if we didn't have what we have right now you know in your heart I ain't lied to you yet he wants to show you everything look what this what I'm talking about okay go ahead y somebody shot and kill this dude and Y know who did it okay so do you do you want yeah we're looking at them do you want to leave this room in handcuffs going on a first-degree murder warrant or do you want to leave to go home to go home okay well right now you're looking at the first degree murir because you're not coming off with the truth I'm not going and tell yall some [ __ ] I don't know about bro hey real hey I I have I understand and I don't want you to tell me anything you don't know about either but I know that Danny wouldn't be over there in tears okay Danny would not be in bring him here I'm not bringing him in here right now say bring yeah well you know what I changed my mind cuz you sat here and lied to me you're still lying to me you I'm still lying to okay yeah when you come off with the trick we'll bring him in here and let you talk you're not really doing anything to make me want to give you something like bringing mom mama or Danny in here right now okay you're not doing anything about wanting us to show you the Facebook live video and here's the thing I've already told you I don't have to show you the Facebook live because you've already seen it so don't tell me you can show me it if you're not going to show me it bro what do you need to see it for I'm trying to see I'm trying to see M get join I'm trying to see M get himself coming at something but since I soall join the B soall said something y got to show me that y'all can't just tell me that bro we don't have to show you guess what you'll see it when you go to court and you're sitting there on trial for first degree murder that's when you'll see it and here's the other thing I've already told you I don't care that you commented we can tell that you you joined the live okay forget if you commented or not I don't care if you comment live you join I did not Join This Man live okay well let's put it this way Danny joined the live and he showed it to you because you were inside the house all right if we're going to you know if we're going to hang on every little word and every little phrase that I didn't join the live okay Danny joined the live and he showed you the video he showed you the live he came and he got you while you're laying there in bed he showed you the live so when you keep saying over and over again I didn't join the live that's fine you can keep hanging on that because technically technically you're telling the truth Danny joined the live so I saying you saw the live tell me you didn't see the live told you you're a liar Danny is not lying on you he's not lying on you y'all really trying to go against me right now bro this ain't about going against you y'all going against me right now no we're trying to help you to where you can actually have a self-defense case versus a murder case you're not trying to have nothing okay so you rather have a murder case than self I'm not saying that bro y y'all talking crazy we're talking truth and you're sit here lying both detectives are growing frustrated by Anderson's refusal to cooperate Anderson remains calm after all just because they have evidence against him doesn't mean he needs to add to it you're sitting here lying when we're when we're trying to help you have a self-defense case no to my selfdefense you don't think get self-defense someone trying to go to someone's house and shoot up their house what would you consider it let let's let's say for example okay let's say it's not you okay and let's say this has nothing to do with your family same set of circumstances same set of circumstances with the Smith Brothers um who live on the complete other side of town okay would the Smith brother that did this would they be justified same set of circumstances that we've explained to you same set of circumstances that you know okay with the Smith brother be justified yeah okay then we're on the same page yeah I get what you're saying by that then we're on the same page you got it okay we're on the same page and that's what we're trying to get you to realize we can't put words in your mouth we can't tell you what we want you to say we can't tell you what happened out there even though we have a very good idea of a lot of what happened out there based on evidence that we have okay okay we can't tell you how you felt by the threats that were being made we can't tell you what you felt like you had to do we can't tell you whether or not you feel that it was justified only you can tell us that only you that's where we're at is we need you to explain to us why what you did did was right what I did what I saying I killed somebody that's saying that's saying yes that is what we're saying that is what we're saying we're saying that that you were home with Danny Danny showed you the live you realized that the threat was quickly approaching your house and you went outside and you met that threat that's what we're saying that's what Danny is saiding I'm L bro do I now I'm L I'm lying about this I'm lying about that okay like d well let's let's stop let's stop talking about you're lying Danny's lying let's let's stop talking about that and this is important you might want to sit up I mean this this is your life this is your story not mine all right so why Les's forget about people are lying why would Danny say these things I don't know okay um when Danny says that you were at home that night is he correct you know okay okay when Danny says when Danny says that you were at home and not at Trey Forest house when this happened before this happened and during the time this happen I'm trying to be very I came home I came home the next day okay okay had to talk to you I came home the next day so the night this happened when when Danny says that you were at home was happened out that P house okay so when Danny says you were at home he's incorrect when Danny says that he showed you the live and that y' are logged in and watching it is that incorrect I wasn't nobody live okay was Danny watching the live I don't know he ask me that that's his name is that thing okay and when Danny says that you believe that there was a threat and he believed that there was a threat coming towards y'all's house and you went out and you you you took care of that threat because you felt like that's the only choice you had is he incorrect in that so basically so basically what you saying he told you that I did it yeah yeah he exactly what he told me if I wasn't clear about that if you thought I was mixing words or trying to trip you up or trying to leave you to believe that Danny said that no [ __ ] Danny said did all right he said that you damn sure did it now he believes what you did was justified I'm asking if what you did was justified but Danny sure as [ __ ] said that you did it said you were doing it for self-defense you were defending yourself and the house so now that we got that clear so there's no confusion about what Danny said I'm want to ask you how you felt if you was in fear and what you did Anderson is almost nonchalant acting as if he will stroll right out of the interrogation room if he can just wait them out I don't know what to tell yall bro you you start by telling us I know you do cuz we before we even started talking about anything serious when you talking about your future everything I I'm not lying I want you to have that future I want you to get out of the neighborhood all right when you say I don't know what I can tell you you can start by telling us how you felt what emotions were going through your head these are the same questions I would ask anybody that was in the circumstance where they felt like they haded within themselves how did the threat that that was presented to you how did it make you feel I don't know what to H I don't know to talking about okay what I'm talking about is when you saw you see that they're coming towards your house you hear what they're saying threats they're making they're calling your brother by name they're calling out your actual address the house numbers and all how did that make you feel cuz I know how it made Danny feel how did it make you feel bro how can I have a reaction of a feeling but name this [ __ ] okay y'all say y see me join the live I'm telling y I ain't never join nobody live bro okay I would join man I would told y Ain [ __ ] live about bro all right would told y I joined Man live bro and if somebody would show me a live I ain't doing nobody live forget about the live forget forget about the live so what when you got down there to In The Cut what' you see in what cut you weren't at for train house your brother told us you went out there Danny said you went out there he said that you went out there and we had it had to be done Danny was scared he thought it was a threat that you went out there and you eventually do that night you walk to for Trey's house y'all get together the next morning I'll talk about everything that happened and y'all consider if coming to the police and saying what happened but then y all get scared at the last minute if I'm met the house and I and I know I'm going to do what I'm going to do there going to be self why would I go to for house I just went back home I don't know why you went to for tre's house after maybe because you want to deal with the police maybe because it was a traumatic experience listen I know you GRE I know you grew up in the neighbor Hood but she ain't never had to shoot nobody before you see what I'm saying and you can think about from watching movies rap videos playing video games that that stuff don't affect you but it does [ __ ] affect nothing you don't get K nothing no I said that what you talking about video games and all that I said that don't affect nothing people think that that it's just I just going to shoot somebody people let that be dumb as [ __ ] yeah yeah I can you just go shoot somebody and not feel it you going to feel it whether you realize it or don't it's it's it's in you and you got to carry it around with you and you got to deal with it whether he's Justified or not it doesn't matter of course it makes it easier I think maybe if you're Justified but so maybe that's why you went to forra house is cu you needed to cool down a lot of I'm say somebody come to my house to like this and that bro I'm going to do what I got to do and I'm going to go back home and my mom would have call police she would have been that Mom there yeah but none of them went and told Mom about the live they decided to handle themselves your mom would called the police you said she wouldn't she would have called the Poli Stephanie would have definitely call and she would have begged and begged and begged her voice not to go outside but I'll give you that they were coming fast and that they were almost there the questions have shifted away from the live stream since they weren't making much Headway on that front Anderson isn't inclined to be helpful I'll give you that you know depending on what time when Miss Stephanie called and how soon somebody let her know what was going on could the police have got there I don't know it depends on when y'all would have told her at the beginning of the live video you probably don't realize they're like completely 100% serious until they break over into the church parking lot from wanish you can clearly see where they are you know exactly where they are they're walking to the cut by then it's about too late you know the best you can do is lock all the doors and hide down low and hope they don't come inside CU they're almost there when they hit that cut they're 300t from the door trust me when I say I feel for you sometimes it's a bad position to be put in sometimes see what what what what gun we even had to do that or anything [ __ ] it is crazy the whole thing is nuts I've done told you that I think like Society the the the position that you're put in as a young black man is crazy that you got other guys your age that want to take your life for nothing and that's what you got to deal with I think that's insane you think it's insane too you wouldn't have plans on getting out say that again I said you think it's crazy too the whole situation is crazy now I I I don't I don't know where the disconnect here is I don't know why we should believe you over your own brother Danny who's in there in tears believe everything y'all believe the streets when they first said it was us a go for nobody else but us no no I mean we the the streets um think about it like this the streets really don't come in the courtroom and so I'm s and testify now do they um this streets really don't have nothing to do with it we can't arrest somebody based on the streets we have to have evidence we have to have witnesses um we have to to cooperated those witness we have to be able to prove those Witnesses are telling the truth we just can't take rumor on the street if okay y got to prove that the witnesses is telling the truth in other words the evidence matches up to what your brother just told me yeah while he was in here talking to you I was talking to your brother and your mom and what your brother just told me the evidence matches up to it yeah the evidence all the evidence there's all kinds of evidence there's there's video evidence there's there's scene evidence there's physical evidence um there's everything we do we've been doing this for a minute um so evidence I was me yeah his his statement the statement that he gives matches up to the evidence we know your own brother is saying that you did this now he's saying you did it for the right reasons okay he's not he's not he's not trying to time you out he's saying that you did it for the right right reasons okay um but what he's saying to put it in simple terms makes sense with what we've uncovered during this investigation and the streets ain't got nothing to do with it okay if if I if I wanted to talk about the streets I could talk about the streets saying that Daniel went over and shot up uh knowledge Gibson's Mama's house and that's why knowledge Gibson came to put a gun to your mama's head because that's what the streets s remember I ain't really talk to you about anything having to do what H what happened to knowledge Gibson's Mama because that's just what the streets say what I know to be factual is that knowledge Gibson came over and put a gun in your mama's head I know that to be 100% true because he got a AR rested for it I know it to be 100% true these people that were threatening you guys on Facebook live and com com to your house that night are very very close friends and knowledge Gibsons and you know this as well okay um is that why they were coming over there yeah most likely could there be some other beef could be streets say there's beef but guess what the streets ain't fact and the streets ain't proof what is proof is they were coming over to the house they were on Facebook live while they were doing it and they were making threats against you well specifically your brother Daniel but the Anders and Clan and they were coming to the house on Tusk purcel and the others were coming and they were armed although they said they wanted to handle things physically rather than using a weapon and they were making real credible threats okay um at least I would take them as so I don't know how you told them because you're claiming that you didn't see the video what's also fact is that we really don't believe that you were at Fort tre's house and we believe that you watched the video because there's an El log that Instagram keeps of when you log on and when you log off and comments you make and things you watch and the things that you do okay and that log shows that you're you Mr Mr Getty himself are logged on and you've already told me that nobody else has my phone nobody else has my password okay so we know it to be true that you were logged on and you were watching the live now if you want to mix words parse words if you want to get into specifics and say that it was Danny that logged on um I didn't log you kept saying I didn't log on I didn't log on well Danny was on Danny D let's just say Danny logged on okay but Danny showed you the live he came in laid on the bed he showed you the live and you knew what was up you knew they were coming you knew they were getting closer and closer and closer you heard what they were saying you heard what they were saying they were going to do now what is not factual and what we can't prove is how you felt and what exactly you had to do and whether or not you think what you did was justified that's what we can't prove because you won't tell us the only person that can prove that tell y something I can not know how the [ __ ] can I tell yall something I don't know then again that would lead us to the conclusion that Danny is lying on you to save himself because Danny did this all by himself and you were really at Fort Trey house you weren't home just Danny scared um Danny had your phone Danny logged in with your phone from Tusk he saw the live video he was home just him him and Mama because we know that that Daniel was with zo if you're going to maintain that you're over at for Trey's house then young Danny 15 years old at the time had your phone logged into your Instagram and knew that he had to go defend his mama they could have just called the police H I said when they could have just called the police they would called the police could have just called the police but you didn't cuz Mama wasn't told if no was seen this on bro he's already admitted to seeing it and he showed it to you everything I say it's not going to against I'm telling you what your brother told me from his own mouth to me he saw the live video he went showed it to you and you watched the live in here no I'm not bringing him in here I'll bring your mom in here she sat there with him while he told her bring my mom in here I will yeah and she'll tell you that Danny said that you did itess the difference here is you're either looking at self-defense or first every murder plain and simple we saw the live video we can see how it would be self-defense but you have to tell us that you have to tell us how you felt and what led up to it and how you were defending yourself and your family we can't assume that the law doesn't work that way it's not your fault these guys were coming to your house that's what I'm trying to tell how can I tell I don't know why did your brother tell me you did it I don't know why did your brother tell me you did it why did your brother tell me you saw the live and you're trying to sit everybody everybody saying everybody saying this person did it this person did it that did no no they're not they're only pointing at you and Daniel all of the other witness statements are consistent with the evidence but Anderson chooses to accept his role in pel's death and we've been able to rule Daniel out Daniel's worried he's trying to protect both of you the only thing that can protect you is you tell them the truth in this type of situation you didn't ask them to come to your house you didn't ask them to threaten you you didn't ask them to bring their fire with them you didn't ask for that they did that on their own and you had to do what you had to do to defend yourself and your family that's fine but only you can tell us that CU only you can claim self-defense only the person who actually defended themselves and their family can claim self-defense that's what we're trying to explain to you I know it's to explain to me then you're not understanding it or I don't know why you're not com coming off at couldn't telling the truth because that's the only thing that can claim self-defense is you your brother can't claim it for you he thinks that's what you did we think that's what you did based on what we saw look you see that's [Music] B these people already know when they found out I do not know they ain't telling me okay on the video they seen the threats they say we going to come do whatever whatever we got guns come to hurt whatever at 5:38 okay that's my address if you was going to defend yourself us or whoever they can look at it that way or they can look at it as when y'all seen them on the video saying what they was going to do why y'all a tell y Mama for y m to get the police on the on the on the scene but the lady that just walked me down to smoke a cigarette she said ma'am how fast things was moving she said we probably wouldn't have made it though on time can you tell him what Danny said cuz I don't think he trusts what yeah you're saying who talk he saying um yeah when we seen when he seen was saying when uh the live video cuz she told that we watch we watch the live video she said said oo I seen y'all on there watching the live video and when y'all seen it and they said they was going to do this and do that and they was asking ooh what did your brother do then or you know they was asking him questions and you know o was telling it that I seen my brother leave I didn't see my brother leave with no gone but I seen my brother leave and he was saying something about uh did he go to AP she was asking him did he go to AP or did he go down the road Anderson's mother has been brought in and she wastes no time laying the facts before her son he's thrown off by her presence which may give them the break they need I mean like I'm trying to find out and I don't even know I'm not okay and my thing is B I'm thinking you was in the AP no no you brought D but didn't Danny tell us that he showed the live yes they did the live he showed the live to him and then he left he's going to defend himself he's going to go defend them he doesn't believe is that Danny told us that he doesn't believe us that Danny told us that he went down there and defended them and he shot them yeah yeah me and was in the same room yeah I I told him that but my thing is he's not wanting to claim his own self-defense is what it is B him my thing G as of being a mother and as of being a mama and a woman if I wasn't even your mama when them people said that you knew if y'all would have brought that to my attention I would have had the police r that [ __ ] you know it now tell them that you know it we would have show I on that video y'all what every office on the forth would have been open up here's the thing is your brother sitting in a room Danny sitting in the room with your mama said that danque wasn't at Tre at Fort Trey's house is that not what he said H is that not what he said Danny Danny said that that danz was home right he wasn't Dan quz is saying I wasn't home I was the for tre's house for tre's house oh trying to tell me that you was in the room I say I a see my baby herea I say I did not see him well first off you were sitting in your room not worri about what you saw did Danny tell us that he was home yeah Danny said that in in the other room he said that and I said oh I a't see my baby and I did not say that I said wor about you saw we're worried about what Danny saw because you didn't know anything about this until Danny over really you know you didn't know any of this was going on no and and find out all this man this [ __ ] going to run me crazy D Danny Danny says I showed Dan quz the live the live video went in there and woke him up showed him the live and he's saying no he didn't show me any live I wasn't at home I wasn't at home I wasn't at home I was before Trey iy see you we're he doesn't believe us that Danny told us this stuff so yeah that's what um my son said but me personally I'm the type of person I ain't F to lie not even for my mama oh I know if they they listen if they have come to you baby if they have come to you you I know you would have called I know that you would have he knows that you would have to so do you think Danny Danny's lying saying that he went down there to defend y'all I don't know about that issue right now do you think Danny would lie and try to say his brother went down to to defend them well I think Danny trying to say that Danny would lie and point at his brother as a shooter to defend you no I won't think he would lie but I think you know if anything he would you know try to save him so I think that's the truth what he saying or whatever but I a see my baby there I understand you didn't so now that ain't that's nobody here thinks that Danny is is lying on you to hurt you or anything like that we don't even think he's lying on you officer said they already knew about what Danny say that's what we explained to Dan what Danny saying lines up with with the evidence okay the only thing that we're asking you of this point is to stop lying to us about being at for tr's house stop lying to us about watching the live cuz Danny said you watched the live he said you were at home okay um Danny believes that they were coming to do harm I'm telling you that I'm watching the video and they look like they're coming to do some harm all right did you watch the video I hav okay when you watch the video you're going to say oh this guy's coming to do some harm y clearly see the video cuz you've already seen it bro You' already seen it that's the thing I said we're going to show your mom when there listen listen hey Dan your brother Danny said that you already saw it okay let me ask you this if he go ahead and say that they was threatening me and they seen the guns or whatever and I went down there and boom bam then listen listen we're not going to put words into his mouth okay we have literally extended the olive branch as far as we can extend it and said that you know the guys are making threatening comments they're saying they're going to hurt people just like I told you before um I'm assuming because I wasn't in there but I'm assuming that Danny said that it was threatening right and Danny Danny said that he felt like it was something that I don't know Justified or something like that um only only he can tell us what he felt if he was if he was scared by what he saw only he could tell us exactly what he did step by step and whether or not he felt like that was his only choice he's the only person that can tell us that Mrs Anderson is well aware of what is at stake if her son refuses to talk and she isn't impressed that he would give up the chance to claim it was self-defense mhm and this isn't a case of well he just needs to admit to something that he didn't do and just say that you know he felt like he had to do it the evidence is pointing at him his own brother's pointing at him um I'm going to assume that given everything that's happened here today because it's just like Danny said the Three Brothers got together and talked about this the next day right and they were saying we just go to the police and tell them what happened and then they kind of chicken it out at the last minute and got scared right so I would almost assume that if we went back to to Daniel and say this is what Danny said this is what we know this is what your mom says that even Daniel's going to be like yeah that's I wasn't there but that's what they told me happened we talked about going to the police but backed out the last minute and I never knew what happened to these day here yeah I know I know if you didn't know if you didn't know all this you you'd have called us and you you'd have drug them all in here and said tell them the truth I call about everything again so you thought when that dude put that gun in my head I want to go call y'all and then get me a gun and go shoot up I'm I'm glad I'm glad that you you called so I think that even Daniel Daniel's going to come in and he can at least say what they talked about after um this you know I'm kind of at the point right now where and and I think we all are where it's just like we told you the thing goes one of two ways um we got to go get over that hump as to he's going have to start giving us some detail about what happened um and and this is the thing is he's been sitting here saying that I was at for Trey's house for so long and saying that I never saw the live video and I wasn't at home for so long he's going to have to give details to prove that he was actually there um and matter of fact I thought this dude was already uh talked to the investigators and had cleared up that D qu with him to his house yeah he wasn't no no so put your tell that just just your own brother said you were home and you left after seeing the video to go defend you yeah it's not that's what we're telling you and again I'm I'm not I I know that you're not trying to be hard I know that you selfdefense or first degree murder yeah I [ __ ] I to tell y something I don't know bro b you better watch your mouth do look d I ain't doing no because for number one when they came to the house they told me that the videos now see I don't I don't think not one time these people try to Railroad you what I think right now is they trying to see if you come out with that information and if it matches up to a self y' already got information why yall still asking me questions cuz we can't claim selfdefense for it how many times have I told you that you can only do that for yourself yeah that's the other option let's let's don't even worry about that right now okay yall said that Hey listen that's a potential okay that's a potential because right now the only person saying that they think this what we think from watching the video don't necessarily matter as much as what y'all think from watching the video you brother says that you know it was kind of a scary situation they're making threats um and maybe mama just needs to watch the video the and stand you don't need to watch the video because you've already seen the video you can tell yeah I keep tell that so that's the thing is we're not we're not messing around with you know the video exists you know you watched it your own brother that you watched it now I don't know how much of it you saw I'll give you that y so so y my M here instead of Danny what is that now as for my brother to come here my M you want Danny to come in here yeah I'm not going to do that to Danny you know why I'm not going to do it to Danny cuz Danny's broken up about what he had to say and Danny's going to come in here and he's going to sit down and what are you going to say Danny why are you talk all this I'm ask I'm ask him what he talking about yeah okay well I think what he's talking about is he's talking about so basically he showed you the video if I don't here's the thing I'm not I'm not going to I'm not going to beat around the bush anymore I'm not going to tell you honestly there's there's he's saying that you went out and did this um no matter you can say one of two things um you can say yeah I went out there and killed him in Cold Blood or you can say that I believe that I was justified because of XYZ the threats they were making whatever Anderson isn't affected by speaking with his mother his brother may have had a larger impact but they can't afford to let him speak about the case okay but you're still going to have to give me details about what happened all right but why would I say that if I don't know what the [ __ ] happen okay okay okay all right so I just want to be clear lift your head up so that we can see each other um you know so you're saying that I wasn't there yes okay you're saying I had no involvement in this and that my brother is don't got cameras huh don't TR out cameras we'll continue on so you're saying that I wasn't there is a church gu no no no no no no no no you being there has nothing to do with whether or not the church does or does not have cameras if you want me to sit here and show you Church camera footage before you answer that question then we got a problem because that means you're testing me to see how much evidence we got and I'm not going to put up with that so you tell me right now were you there or were you not there I not there okay you want to go with that cuz we'll roll with it we will roll with that all the way from here on out we'll roll with I wasn't there I was at for tre's house if that's what you want to roll with if man tripping huh y' had evidence on me bro I would not be sitting here right now I ain't even going to lie to you you wouldn't be sitting here I would not be sitting right here uh brother take a look around you are sitting here right now I'm saying D you're saying though what that's crazy bro I want you to understand something D Qui you're not in handcuffs right now because I don't necessarily consider you a risk by Department policy should you be in handcuffs at this moment should you be detained in handcuffs based on what we know absolutely every time I walk out of here that door is locked you're not going to get up and walk out of here right now you are detained so for you to sit here and say this is crazy if you had anything on me I would even be sitting here I'm the now yeah I'm the first time you told me I wasn't though then you weren't you would told once your no once your brother in that other room said what he said you're detained you're not getting up and walking out of here right now it ain't going to happen so for you to sit there and say that we don't have anything on you because you're not handcuffs that's where you're wrong that's where you're wrong we've got your own brother on you that's what we got we got your own brother on video sitting there with your mother breaking down tears talking about what happened and we got you sitting in this room continue to say that you were at Fort Trey's house leaving your little brother hanging in the wind all by himself Hang In The Wind yes you are yes you are if you think that you had to do what you did then you need to be man and you need to stand up you need to talk about it you need to explain to me why you had to do what you had to do right now you're sitting over there like a scar little boy is what you're doing that's exactly what you're doing and you keep saying over and over again I was at Fort Trey's house for Trey can't save you anymore he cannot save you anymore never can't I'm just telling you that okay you went to for tr's house yes were you at for tr's house right before this thing happened no you were at home when it happened you know where you were you were right on the edge of the church parking lot at the end of tusy that's where you were that's where you were did you go to Fort Trey's house later the night yeah you walked down to Fort Trey's house did you did Danny and Daniel walk down there to AP to see you later that night mhm they got stopped by yeah they got stopped by an officer maybe they didn't make it all the way I don't know I don't I don't I don't know what Danny said about that if they made it all the way but what I do know is that got stopped by a cop as they were walking there so so so you tell me right now I ain't leaving I ain't going home until we sort this out you're going to sit right there in that chair for a little while son all day have all day and go home that's what you saying that might be what the disconnect is here is you're worrying about all day and you're not worried about your future you're worried about being inconvenience for a few hours cuz you really be home playing 2K or something like that you're not worried about tomorrow the next day the next day the day after that the year after that the year after that you're worried about right now I feel inconvenience by having to be here guess what I'm sorry that you got threatened okay I'm sorry that all this has happened because of the back and forth between one group and the other and it finally culminated it came to a head when these guys got on live Anderson has been fishing for information but he still doesn't think that they have enough to build a case against him what he doesn't understand is that people have been sent to prison on less instead they're coming to your house to to do stuff to do harm all right you did what you did this is the situation you're in and we need to deal with it okay you're the only one that can tell us why you did what you did how you felt what they what you felt like you had to do okay I can't make those statements for you I can't only you can do that so I'm sorry if you feel inconvenienced and what he did did and I've already told you I think he's wrong he shouldn't have been going over there doing that he's still dead and there still has to be some type of type of accounting of that can you understand that yes sir understand what you're talking about every so I'm sorry that you feel like you're inconvenienced and you're worried about whether or not you're going to go home in a couple hours but you need to stop worrying about the next couple hours next couple hours are pretty important um for you because they determine what's going to happen in the coming days okay only you can tell me only you can give me evidence as to what happened out there whether or not this was justified or not if you choose to do so then we will listen and we will continue to what we do what we've done for the last eight months which is not come to any rash conclusions not listen to word on the street and actually follow the case where the case goes what you tell me we will investigate and we will follow up on okay I see you going to go to sleep I have eyes closed but I'm not going to sleep so what do you want to do Dan you want to go into this thing with your official recorded statement being I wasn't there what else you to say h so what else you going to say that's it I was waiting for a response what did you say do you want to go into the rest of this you want to enter into this court process court process yeah this could potentially end in a trial son do you want to go into that with your official statement being I wasn't there I was at Trey for's house I never saw the live the statements that Danny made are incorrect I wasn't there is that how we leave this cuz if that's how you want to go into this I can get up and I can walk out of the room and that's fine and we'll leave it like that in for all day bro quit thinking about all day because if you go into this with that being your statement I wasn't there this thing is going to hit you in the face like a freight train and you will look fondly back at the day that you were sitting in this room and say that room was a lot more comfortable than where I'm at now the detective has to explain that this is going to trial whether Anderson confesses and that by the time this interrogation is over he will be charged with murder because that is what you're opening yourself up to and if that's what what you want if that's the way you want to leave things is a claim of I wasn't there at this point I'm happy to help you with that okay I can make that happen if you don't like me you feel like I don't understand you if you feel like I've suddenly become too hard on you and you rather talk to another investigator tell me and I will be more than glad to leave the room and have somebody else that you feel more comfortable with come in and talk to you would you like that I didn't do it why why would I not like you I just know you doing your job I am now really don't want to see you screw up everything that you want to do because you're being a knucklehead and you're being a hardhead and you've got it in your head that if I just sit here and pretend like what Danny saying doesn't matter all this will go away and I'll be back on Tuskegee tonight playing 2K Because unless you can square this up make it make sense that ain't going to happen there is no way that we can just let you go and say well it sounds like it could have been Justified this the what's what's the state attorney's office going to say well what did he tell you well he didn't really tell us anything he said he wasn't there and they're going to say and he got all this evidence saying he was his own brother and just let him go he didn't give you any explanation okay that video he made us look straight [ __ ] like we some [ __ ] ass people and y'all was coming y'all was coming and you was saying what you got and what you going to do cuz that video made me feel a whole to totally different way if these police can't see that at self-defense I'mma find money for a lawyer cuz that's what it'll be now I'm a different person now I was sitting over there sad and mad and don't want them to do this to my son this and that and the third but you made us look straight [ __ ] you said y'all was coming you had to go in the book bag and when she stopped the video the video is in uh Bel parking lot and if you come up the little side road which is our house the cut right there they was threatening y'all 300 foot from your front door and you went to go protect yourself for whatever the [ __ ] you went to go do and guess what guess what I want you to go with and I Ain F to let you down because I roll with God I don't know who you roll with but I roll with God now let's get this over with you either going with me or you going to go your own route did you see the video we haven't showed it to him and there's a reason why we haven't showed it to him and I'll tell you what it both is is if he he's going to have to give us detail what happened go ahead B I'm not going to leave you wrong I got the best man in the world with me he has to base that detail off of what and you don't play about God I ain't going to let you down and I ain't giving up I ain't giving up no M cuz now I'm feeling a certain way you act like we was [ __ ] and then you want to diing nag at me because when I heard that y'all were having beef I went to your mama with no problems or no disrespect and you want to get on live in front of the whole comedian and um laugh at me like I'm [ __ ] man it couldn't be me cuz I would have been told them people yeah they say what they were going to do to me and yes I did so and so you ain't got no other choice but I'm coming with God I don't know who you coming with and ain't giving [Music] up how Betty doing that's I mean U tell my other son yeah that's uh Danny how's Danny he's in the other room is he okay though I don't know I go go check on him cuz he was I know he's up Anderson's mother returns and she pushes him to be honest he is unable to answer her y bring house can't not at this point it's too late he's a witness same reason I can't let you look at the video right now it's CU you have to give details about what happened based on your own memory what you saw what you observed what you felt not what you're seeing now on the video I can't have you and Danny sit in this room and talk about what happened before you tell me me about what happened you know what I'm saying cuz then you're getting information from him somebody looking from the outside in is going to say oh they let him talk to the witness Danny they let him watch the video that's how he knew what to say you got to tell your own story you got to tell how you felt what you saw what you smell you know everything every detail that you can remember about how everything made you feel from the get-go to exactly what happened when they're coming through the cut on you and we can't tell that story for you the video can't tell that story for you the video can't tell us how you felt and what you were thinking I how tell Y how I felt tell Y how I was thinking yeah if I can't do that well I know that not everybody is you know is good at describing their feelings but you know you can describe your feelings in basic terms you can tell me when you're mad you can tell me when you're sad you can tell me when you're happy you can tell me when you're scared you can tell me when you're not scared oh actually I ask you what El I can't tell y that okay that's what I ask why wouldn't you be able to tell me that no just asking in general like whatever if you can't tell me yeah no a yeah cheing the wrong way I don't know I I'm I'm trying to are you saying that you can't tell me how you felt because you weren you weren't there or you can't tell me how you felt because you're not good at describing your feelings first one the first one okay so you're saying what if I can't tell you how I felt because I wasn't there that's not I'm asking you yeah you ask me okay tell you how I feel how I feel M what if I can't tell y that like what like what if I didn't do that okay well let's let's let's skip over feelings okay can you tell me what you saw when you were there that's all when I was what when you were there there at scene yeah and if it's easier for you to start chronologically meaning like from the beginning because a lot of people it's easier for them to tell a story from start to finish then do that and we won't interrupt if you want to start from the time you saw the video and tell us what you did as opposed to tell us how you felt that's fine I'm just asking if I can't tell Y how I feel how I felt what's going to happen right murder saying No this this this is this is what I'm saying um are are you saying are you still sticking to to I wasn't there and that's why I can't tell you what how I felt because there's a difference there's you saying I can't tell you how I felt because I wasn't there I didn't do it and there's a difference between that and I really can't tell you how I felt because I'm not really good at expressing my feelings so which of the two is it you're not good at expressing your feelings or you have no feelings about it because you weren't there which of the two if you have problems expressing your feelings that's not an issue I swear you answering my question I'm not answering your question no okay ask your question a different way CU I'm not understanding so so y to ask somebody else in here yeah for the same for the same stuff ask him tell us how you feel and how you what yourself what if they can tell y that what if they don't like what if they can tell y that if they could generally speaking I've never had anybody in here that um was involved in a justifiable shooting and that goes uh for officers and for people regular people um you know I've had quite a few of those where it was regular people that for whatever reason they had to use Force deadly force against somebody um in no circumstances I've ever had somebody that couldn't tell me how they felt Anderson is feeling the detective out and trying to determine if it will benefit him to admit that he was in the parking lot you know I I'll give you for an example I won't give you like all the details cuz you know it's it's a case and it involves a person and everything else but he's in his house uh he's asleep his wife is in the bedroom um guy takes a giant concrete pot throws it through a glass window one the big beautiful house I mean it's way ex the house that I I'd ever own but throw it through a big glass door like window French doors and the guy comes in to the house um this guy wakes up after hearing that he sees this guy coming across this living room he grabs this gun off nice stand and he shoots the guy that different and somebody come in your house and you li sort of diff well it has nothing to do with being licensed you can have a gun without a you don't have to have a license to have a gun no I'm saying like I'm saying like it's not much when I gets hard yeah and you know he said you know was he able to describe his feelings yeah he he said you know I I was terrified I was scared I mean this guy's coming across you know all of a sudden I wake up to this guy breaking into my house he's coming across the living room floor I was terrified I was scared so yeah in other circumstances where it hasn't been on the on the in a house it's been on the streets people can still tell us how they felt they're like yeah dude I mean that guy was coming at me with a knife or or whatever and uh well how did you feel they might not be able to say well you know my life flashed before my eyes and I I felt like I was GNA what but what they can say is they like well I thought he was gonna freaking kill me I thought I was gonna die you know so that's why I don't necessarily understand what you're saying when you say what if I can't tell you how I felt oh y y y'all probably put like oh he can't he can't he can't tell us how he felt he don't want to tell us like I'm saying like I'm just asking you like what what happened cuz cuz that's she said she said either either going to be self-de defense first degree I guess I guess what I I guess the question what's giving me a problem with the question is why wouldn't you be able to tell us how you felt because there's a difference if you're again if you're not good at talking about feelings that's one thing if you can't tell us how you felt because you're sticking to the story of I wasn't there that's that's different I'm telling you if you're going to stick with that statement of you know if that's your official statement at the end of this is I wasn't there this whole thing is going to hit you like a freight train we can do that for you if that's what you want I I don't want to do that to you I think there's an explanation I think there's a reasonable explanation as to why you went out the door and started walking down towards the cut at the dead end of tusy I need you to tell me what that was I need you to give me some detail about what occurred down there just like you were telling a story like you were writing a song uh like you were writing a book writing a movie I need you to give us some detail part of that detail is what you thought was going to happen if these guys came to your house and the other part is what you did once you got down there and they confronted you or you confronted them Anderson is feeling the detective out and trying to determine if it will benefit him to admit that he was in the parking lot Anderson has resisted telling the truth but is quickly becoming apparent that he can't continue to avoid telling his story if he wants to avoid a murder charge in the next video we'll see if the detectives are successful in getting him to talk or if he will maintain his silence and hang all of his hopes on a trial hopefully you enjoyed the video if you did there is a patreon link in the description where you can support the channel further thank you for watching I'll see you in the next one [Music]