today we are learning new details about the woman accused of killing her father and six-year-old daughter Jesse was diagnosed with bipolar disorder when she was eight years old the mother Cheyenne Jesse reported the two missing to deputies yesterday morning she said maybe they were in Georgia turns out they weren't in Georgia they were just about a half mile down the road at the landlord's house contains the interrogation of a woman who murdered her father and daughter so her boyfriend wouldn't leave her in the summer of 2015 the relationship Cheyenne Jesse had with her boyfriend Cody Monroe was slowly falling apart Jesse's daughter Meredith from a previous relationship had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia and neither adult knew how to handle the situation Monroe gave Jesse an ultimatum fix it or he was out Jesse was desperate she felt as if this was the first good relationship she had ever experienced and she was determined not to lose it she took her daughter to the home of her father Mark weekly there she shot and stabbed both before putting their bodies in totes and storage Subs she moved them to a storage shed belonging to a neighbor who was traveling Jesse had the only key and knew she had time to try to cover her actions Jesse spent two weeks cleaning the house before reporting her father and daughter missing less than 24 hours later she was arrested [Music] Cheyenne um like I said before I'm taking part this is coming back okay [Music] neither one of us got to talk to you earlier so we're going to probably ask you some questions you've already had before a few hair with us we'll travel this peaceful as we can about it all right and I'm a there might be a lot of questions you already asked okay but but I'm gonna start from from the beginning about how is because your first name spelled how would you spell your first name Nicole um yes that's my old address on there I've never changed it update yeah next door okay next door you're dead yes now what's your birthday um [Music] 89. hers is 5 2609 uh okay where is your daughter's name Meredith Ian Jesse l e e a n n one word um me but my dad was talking about lady kicker the and just until school starts so so this is the last time you dropped her off he's gonna y'all were talking about him taking her until school starts yeah until she gets straight because she behaves better for him she has oppositional deficiency okay basically where she's the word problems because she said that the police can't touch her and I said yeah they can they're pretty powerful people if you called the police on him before um no I haven't called the police on her before but I've had her big rapid um June was the first time and she had one done in July this year yes sir so she uh they corrected when she went to the doctor and they determined that or yeah she said I've seen this before and if you don't get a handle on it now and it yeah it can be seen some pretty work scenarios okay and that she is a chemical imbalance also in the brain is it did they say that it's hereditary or anything like that yeah with her dad having him and my mom having it that you know and then my grandma has it in my sits on my siblings Meredith had been diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder but there is some question as to whether or not that diagnosis was correct her biological father has uh Billy Salisbury Billy Lee Salisbury we're we're seeing a child's life no sir he hasn't seen her since she was not even a year old and I'd like him moving to Florida there's a s-a-l-i-s-b-u-r-y yes I can smell Salisbury steak how old is he um you said you before you moved to Florida where's he where's he at um he lives in Georgia somewhere like they're trying to find him the child support or pretty much all for life he handed this 50 brushed up there and say Don't call child support on me I said okay fifteen dollars yeah if I can afford it anyways it's like okay right you know he helped make hurting me know you should help raise her and that's when she was three years old y'all came out of Florida um fortunately a year old okay yeah she was a baby baby okay and who was a does she have a psychiatrist here and a medical doctor yes sir at beach River okay where's the medical doctor um do you know the doctor's names um it was supposed to be his lady um a deer but she's not there and then this other person and Mary deposit on that chance to go see that person yet did I have a doctor my Dad was supposed to take her to see him I told him I said she said they expected they're going to want to see her uh Monday morning and he said okay when when which one didn't win the following Monday that I dropped her off yeah I dropped her off on the 18th on Saturday very early in the morning before then I want to pick my fiance up from work okay so she was supposed to go to the doctor on Monday to see that medical doctor the psychiatrist um like a medical doctor and psychologist but she's supposed to get like a checkup room they they did it before uh basically it's like um when the patient comes out of the hospital they normally like in three days they follow up with them to make sure that they're still not wanting to honor themselves and everything okay you know um those are some some deputies were detected I wasn't out I didn't come when you called to file a report or whatever so this is my first time talking to me but you talked some detectives or that these at your dad's house yeah how did you get here um don't drive here oh you're right with him here okay did you come come here under arrest or anything like that did you come here because you wanted help or is it I wanted help finding my daughter and my dad like he texted us on my fiance's phone my phone was kind of jacked up that week okay um it was time for me to get minutes on my phone my data was slow so you you wanted to come here freely if you wanted to help you wanted to come here yeah I wanted to help I had my daughter we found okay we have we did okay um but it's in these amazing person cases the reason why if you're wondering the reason why I asked all these questions because believe it or not I've done this job a long time believe it or not I need to almost like know the whole her whole life and what she does and all that kind of stuff okay um so that's what we have so many questions so if she was supposed to go to the doctor in the 20th yeah do you know who's I know I don't though they told me and I let them know that my Dad was supposed to take um her and everything when did they come in um that day that she wasn't there okay so they called after they were barely didn't show up yeah and I'm like I calling my dad and it's like I call him his phone's turned off okay so and I know whenever he gets mad at me he turns the phone off he also told me when I dropped her off I don't know why you're putting her on his medicine and stuff when she's with me she acts perfectly fine okay we're on the 20th once I was the appointment and then first thing in the morning I don't I don't remember that because on my hours are so crazy do you remember about what time the daughter called you and said hey you know they come in um it was like an afternoon so afternoon time okay what is your cell phone number um 8633 so right after they called you were you at work that day when they called you um I don't remember like 11 to 4 sometimes uh Plant City Lowe's so when they called you on your cell phone um that you take the call or was it just a voicemail um one of the things the detectives usually have to determine when someone is reported missing is whether or not the missing person is just avoiding contact naturally when a child is involved the search begins much more quickly if you haven't already take a look at my patreon page for exclusive and ad-free content including this interrogation video where we dive into the Twisted tale of a woman who falsely claimed at scandalous affair with Chris Watts driven by her desperate desire for fame and recognition witness the links some individuals go to for their shot at notoriety you can watch this story and more at patreon.com stranger stories Plus [Music] and how long was it after the document the message that you call Tracfone again but I'm not saying you know it was exactly hour five minutes but was it like an hour later when you're able to get off the register or was it sometimes whenever anyone decides to okay whatever catch here hey cashier is there determines on all right well I'm gonna check the schedule see if anyone's gonna be the Earth One past year uh he's kind of um he forgets everyone to have a break okay but that that day specifically um do you remember they left your message do you remember about how long it was until you called your dad I just so remember exactly how many times I tried calling them over did they use I mean that day whenever the because he was supposed to take your daughter to the doctor away yeah and they're calling saying hey basically they haven't shown up or you did someone bring her to the doctor so did you try to call in your Dad just once yeah just one time and it went to voicemail straight voicemail yes is that odd for you guys told me to go straight to voicemail um was it Mexico sometimes it's like if it doesn't get taken also it's like turned off it's not only to sign off or anything or like sometimes he actually forgets to charge it okay so um Metro's been giving him so much problems so but when I say they give you so what service go um last time I talked to him like a couple weeks my family was down okay so but you can only remember calling him once on that Monday okay you try to go on back anytime that on that Monday later on we got off work or anything I'm not a member okay fall asleep [Music] because all this stuff is very important okay um I know when when your uh when was the the last time your your baby went to the doctor before if you you know what London was in July um so she got a Friday and they kept it for like a week um I think throughout Friday and Saturday I took the took her to him and they're not weak um her it went over to the 17 hour already hold and then she became voluntarily there when I went up there I was like I voiced my concern about how I don't know if this medicine was going to help or not because glass medicine didn't help and I told him about how I was afraid of her staying at the house because she comes to the door I actually had to lock my bedroom door because she's with her through the door I'm very glad the store is locked and she threatened me so many times and I just I just don't feel safe with her when I'm with her alone I normally I I have a door shut and I can see through a crack where she sleeps okay and I'm only wait until she's asleep before I go upstairs and I I haven't moved all the knives and everything from downstairs but since she's not been home for a week I've kind of been able to bring my eyes back out so I can cooked and everything okay um so she's hard to deal with yeah I've never I don't understand how to deal with the bipolar or child with disability so I just tell my dad well maybe if I sign my rights away to somebody who would be able to handle her and be able to like see if especially the dad's saying that she's flying around him I guess yeah Jesse sounds as if she struggles with Meredith especially when it comes to Meredith's mental health needs this can lead to frustration and hopelessness and unless there is intervention the outcome can potentially be Grim so you voice your concerns on Friday to the to East River is it peace um I was at the hospital when I was picking her up my boyfriend to them and what hospital um it was uh the Florida Central behavioral hospital okay what city is that well this time when she went to Orlando um we're wishing new bakery uh well she scratched her face up and so I was like wagon and [ __ ] I went upstairs and told her I said give me a second I'll turn TV on let me go changing the my comfortable clothes out of my jeans we just got done seeing my cousins they came in town um I went upstairs I came downstairs and I go baby come here and he goes what I said just come here look what she did you talk about Matthew yeah my fiance and he comes down and goes what did you do I said I don't know what she did and then she went all kinds of just like this everything doesn't revolve around me I'm like nothing rolls around anybody but like she wanted attention yeah okay and then like I just said I don't know what to do with this I I don't know what to do well so I mean did you take her to the doctor that day or um we went we called East River and they weren't open so we waited then we took her that Monday and when we went there the lady goes well she seems fine now I'm like no this there's something wrong it's all over yeah she likes to pick at her skin welcome to the doctor see that yeah there's Dr senior scratches and I show them the video yeah it was well she's not acting like that now is what they said I'm like but they went and kept her though no they didn't want like she said if you want a big brother you got to take it to this place here or this place here so I just took her back to Lakeland Regional where she got a big breath the first time where he's really practically there but they considered to there and then they sent her to there and they go oh I remember you so who who centered do what I do um yeah because that's where they don't hold her age group there when is the last time that she was seen by the doctor for medical girlfriend for checkup I'm not a psychiatrics um regular checkup um I think it was like for kindergarten I figured there and no I had some blood work there and I don't remember what so what grade is she gonna be going and she's supposed to be going into the first grade okay before kindergarten here she met she didn't have any problems or sicknesses or checkups or anything throughout a year um they did some blood work though through the doctor and they've done a EEG with her brain they've uh centered to a Cardiologist I found out she has had bicuspids RV valve I think is what it's called so we got like 2 000 your heart instead of three it says nothing to be considered with just watch around everything so I kind of became like I'm overprotective I don't really let her go outside very much unless I'm out there when does she have blood work done what was that one uh they were trying to see what all she had like what medicines would work with her like if she was sick or yeah was that before kindergarten or was that out during the year that was during the year whenever they were trying the new doctors came with Peace River that I did take her to Grace Point and Grace Point just wanted to say Oxygen's ADHD well all ADHD medicine that they gave her wasn't [Music] um I have it in my my wallet it's metal something rather that attention yes sir okay I might try to make sure to keep on for Stuff yeah that there was this one and then it turned to that one so it's Magellan yeah my dad has copies of her insurance and I wrote a note and plus we could take her to there and I've also told him that at Peace River that he has authority to take her to appointment so that's why she can get proper help I just want the best help for her right and well tell me tell me about um you and your daughter's relationship what do you all normally do together and um I know she has issues well every time I go to try to tickle her and like you know Mama's food and try to love on her and stuff she turns the violence towards me she's not she's not my glasses off or they've broken up here several times she's choked me um she actually punched me in the stomach and I actually started spotting and I went to the doctor back in April because unfortunately I did practice and they said I was pregnant but not a spot and they didn't see the baby but it tests were positive so I went down to a clinic and I had had an abortion because my body was trying to have a miscarriage but while children can be surprisingly violent during these outbursts the story doesn't set quite right Jesse for various reasons could be exaggerating or lying entirely relationship um we kind of like we just held each other's problems and said before this he said I'm here for you for everything will help get her straight later on in life a little bit a lot maybe we'll have another one it depends on what real plan to have a job oh not really at this time in our relationship is early I don't want to build any joke I'm about a year now did you live with me how long have you lived with him uh since November I'm just 2014. yes and before that we've been with your father or the house instantly I was living in that house your father's house yeah it's my house he was supposed to uh just help me out with everything and he says that uh orders with the addresses in your license is 5205 drainville Road how far is that from your dozens that's my next that's where we were living when we first uh to Lakeland Junior Day yes I understand I don't want to worry about that but when did you first move to Lakeland um let's say we came down here before when I was a year old we stayed at in um March and then we moved to Lakeland then then we waited we lived there for about three years and then you moved to the house okay so you were there uh you were there I think your dad's current house or maybe a year or so before you moved to um with your boyfriend um not even almost a year okay and then so then you've been living with your boyfriend for a year so that makes it about fun and she got she now got kicked out of the school too okay um she went to um in Polk County um then she went to um the school right there in Hillsborough County it's a charter school Advantage Academy I started having all kinds of behavioral problems a lot of her behavioral problems started at when she was in VPK when she was at a plus Learning Center and I've always wondered did something happened there or anything and now maybe she played with me because you know Mama's supposed to protect me Mama wasn't there how old was she when she was there um she tried to go in there when she was about a year old recently I started getting cash assistance and I was on uh um food stands I'm selling food stamps but this is Matthew on food stamps as well um no okay um I just hadn't updated my food stamps yet how how would you classify on a scale of one to ten um to being the best how is you and Matthew's relationship um I say it's about a 10. really so you don't plan on getting married yeah we just want to just get my daughter help first and you know puts in years in between knowing each other's instead of like rushing into marriage like everybody else does in our age you know we're comfortable with each other's I felt safe I felt safer when I'm with him than I do when my daughter's hair with me alone and I try to make sure that I'm not alone with her because of her mentality so on a skill I know that your daughter has issues but on a skill of one to ten how would you classify your you and your daughter's relationship team being the best um I was trying to make it at least an eight but she but realistically yeah okay because every time I got a hug her she turns to violence with me and I'm like okay when I come home from work and I'm tired and I say give me just a little bit let me calm down from work and then we can play I we I try to use to take her out to do stuff when I had the money um we used to go see movies sometimes or go to a park but then she started becoming a little weird when it comes to strangers like she went out to a stranger and I shaved him and told her her whole whatever he knew if she need her address she probably would have told him that there was a um that happened at Lowe's when his parents took her with him so low as well that worked oh okay and he was Jesse is asked to rate her relationships with her boyfriend and daughter of course everyone wants their relationship to be a 10 but that is rarely the case and it is something that can fluctuate it is troubling that Jesse puts the blame for the negative relationship on her daughter especially since the revulsion for touch is often a symptom of various disorders and is not the child's fault so his parents know your child too yes and how would you classify Matthew's relationship with her daughter on a scale of 1 to 10 10 being the best um he was trying to make it like a 10 but of course yeah but he goes I don't know how to deal with her I've never really had a kid right and he was oh basically he doesn't want he doesn't he's never alone with her he goes I don't want to be alone with her that matter of fact she's a little girl there's people will excuse me of all different things I'd rather just be safe and he takes her with his family and as long as she's buying things she's happy and she loves him but when he says well I can't buy it we have to pay bills then she hates him and then she tells them that the only thing he's good for is money and I said no he's trying to be a dad to you because your dad is with his other family right now that's what I tell her that's why she doesn't feel like when my dad abandoned me so do you think it's do you think it's better off for your child you said you you can be staying with your dad or she's gonna be staying with your father until maybe school starts um were you gonna do you think he was better off your daughter staying with him full time for you and your relationship do you think that's fair to say um my relationship we seem to be like almost out of nine when me and my daughter okay when she's with my dad okay because like my dad kind of he can Grandpa came in some money so and then he has some money patched up so he can buy her what she wants when she wants and he she business to his Theory she thinks all adults are stupid but Grandpa okay does she tell you that yeah she's actually told me so do you think that having said that do you think it's better for you and your relationship with Matthew if she's with your dad full time um I will we've actually been able to focus on our relationship instead of constantly looking over our children or what she's going to do next what's she going to destroy um so it does make your own relationship better yeah and we're not in a lot yeah you feel better if she's with your dad because she's better off I guess yeah I can actually sleep at night but lately I haven't been able to sleep because I've been worried sick because I ain't been able to hear from him okay so let's start getting into that now another little background so you after you picked her up excuse me Friday from Orlando and went to pick her up you and Matthew uh just me because he had to sleep because he has to go to work at night okay uh and where does she work at um well he works at Walmart I work at Lowe's and he works Night Shift like stocking or maintenance okay yeah so you go pick her up Friday at Orlando and then what time will you pick her up um I think the wrong uh three or four it was raining and were you you have a car yes sir what kind of car is it HHR okay looks like a PT Cruiser okay yeah a couple more colors black Chrome and then you took her straight to your dad's house on Friday oh no I took home excuse me home and uh I took her home we all watched her cheating kind of staying in the living room with us when you say we all you know nephew me and Matthew and his dad his mom okay this is Dad and Mom lived in your same house um they live in a trailer right here and we live in a fifth wheel right here okay so it's the same address yeah you guys you and Matthew live in the fifth wheel and his parents live in the trailer yes okay when you guys when you came home on Friday when you say I came home every year old they were you guys were in the trailer with the the main house yeah we were in the main house okay so y'all are watching her hanging out watching TV and then what time is it now if you picked over three or four um his mom went lay down Mary fell asleep so I'm like okay well she's asleep it's okay if I leave her here with you George so I take him to work so that's why I'm not having to wake her up at all because waking her up is I basically I get punched a lot it's basically I try to wake her up I mean I get hurt every time you wake up she starts punching yeah or anything insane I don't want to get up and I'm not going to you because you're not the boss okay scared this makes you angry sad no when talking about her feelings about Meredith hitting her Jesse is most likely lying it is natural to feel a certain amount of anger or frustration when someone strikes you and sadness when it is your own child Jesse is trying to avoid saying anything that might make it sound as if she was tired of dealing with Meredith before I came home I also went to Walmart got her medicine so I swinging committed sure she had a medicine for the next day okay so you um they go to sleep around six or lay down around six or so on Friday yeah we're all bad for you um he's up he's getting dressed for work are you taking him to work and you buy her what at Walmart you said you bought her son at Walmart yeah I always buy her something at Walmart I bother like a Monster High movies and stuff okay to take your dad's another just I at that time I wasn't sure if I was going to figure my dad or not but I just wanted something for her to do yeah thanks to somebody part of medicine or something yeah I bought her medicine from Walmart yes I'm a pharmacy yeah okay what about this interview um the three uh pills that he has up on the entertainment center he left uh one is for uh liquid xanax or something is what he said once we're waiting to bed and once like helper calmed down and focus I guess he went and got those refilled he came back home Matthew's that word right um no I take Matthew to work no no but when you took him to work is that when you bought medicine and stuff no okay so this is before you even got home yes okay on the way home from the doctor yes okay so then you get home they go lay down you take Matthew to work she's there with George right it's asleep you take him out to your work and then you come back yeah and I take her over to the campers to go to bed okay um George said the lever there but um I was like I don't know that I have to get her up in the morning I don't really know about leaving her throughout the whole night okay she tries to me things he goes well I don't really sleep at all anyways that's it okay well but I'm I'm still concerned okay so he took her to the trailer what time was Matt shift we just go by Matt or Matthew um he goes by Cody at the house okay I'm sorry Matthew is what he uses for like paperwork can we take over your work at what time um he has to be at work at 10 so about like 9 30 if not when we're leaving the house okay so then you get back home and you have to discussion with George about he's it's okay but you still take her as a dream yeah to the fifth wheel yes sir and then what time do you get this is like well and what time how about probably like 11 30. like 10 30 11 30. I didn't really look at the time right this time this is on Friday night yes sir and then we went to sleep and then in the morning I woke up got her dress um I packed her bag for my dad's and this one she's already gonna go with him that weekend okay I talked to him about well if I sign my rights away to somebody who can take care of her and get her the proper medication and everything and he said well you do have your child like your mother did you I'm like your dad yeah when did you have this conversation with him um it was a couple days before I brought her over there and then I had the same conversation again with him it's like I had to repeat myself so but when you let me answer this one you've got that to after you drop Cody off at Walmart then you got back to Philly's house and George was and wait until this Mom laying down yes and George Georgia in the living room yeah okay where was the baby doing um she was sleeping on the two chairs that we had folded together make like a little bed so when you walk wherever she started punching you yeah because she always saw that happen yeah okay and he said well just leave her receiver so I left it for a little bit and I took her over there when she calmed down I presser like this and I can pick her up I don't like I really can't figure out too much and George helped me open the doors so going home next morning what time you dick or your dad's um I yeah about five to get her up in the morning yeah okay and I get to my dad's about around 6:00 6:30 ish okay you can't and how long how far is your house where are you living um it's probably uh I'm up here here's the 471 here's our house here's ODC road so you live in North Lakeland yeah and that's like right there off the county line area is pretty far from there yeah about 45 minutes with with red lights so you get there what time about 6 30 in the morning yeah and you drop them is your Dad's away when you get there yeah but when you drop or off how long do you stay there that's probably a few minutes and I'm like I have to go get him from work and my dad's like says something underneath his breath I don't know what it sounded like peachy busting or something what's happening I don't know it's not like Cody no he loves he thinks that this I just finally found a man I'm proud of you although it wasn't she had having chickens okay um and well he's like we gotta have a talk here I'm like but I don't know what to do with her I don't know how to help her I said I'm doing all I know and I'm fixing to lose my job well you know we should go because I had to call out so much to take care of her so would you when you took your dad she's supposed to be there a week yeah at least a week one hour how many closures there yeah I brought her all the clothes that she had it because she has a washing machine okay we have one up there too does she have extra clothes there too yeah and he bought her clothes okay so um did you bring that new movie you got her um no I forgot it okay that's that uh fifth wheel or a jewelry sales I fifth wheel all right what's it called again uh it was Monster High yeah she has the whole collection of Barbie because I made sure she got every single one of them so after you telling you guys before you leave um anyway probably 10 to 15 minutes so so you haven't picked up uh Georgie right yeah what time does he get off work seven okay what what Walmart does he work uh the north side so you kind of take her all the way down to your dad's house and then drive all the way back you're gonna scoop Cody up I want to die home yeah when you got your wall did you go straight to Walmart yes sir okay when you got to Walmart uh Saturday morning was the area off work or did you have to wait for me um he's in the back uh finishing up on the machine and clocking out did you wait on the park no I always go inside okay did you uh so how long were you there until how long did you have to wait there until you get off work not that long like just maybe a few seconds okay so didn't really pay attention to my phone no I understand but then when he got off work it was around 7 30 then uh around seven uh my schedule I never know what day I actually have to work I thought it was the day I had to work but it was the day after I had to work that day right there I was off so me and him slept all day on Saturday so you got to work Sunday yes sir okay did you ever work Sunday yes sir and um so you drop you drop on the Saturday the 18th you've dropped her off of your dad's when's the next time that you talked to your dad um I I called him and it showed up where I called for like 30 seconds but like when you showed up on my color thing they said 30 seconds on there and when it didn't seem like that long but well it said something yeah it's like he hung he answered the phone and then like yeah when is the next time after the 18th that you called him uh what date was it Sunday Sunday what time we're talking about was it Sunday night um it was around here I remember it was not enough you know before I went to work I can't remember those daytime yes okay um and I drove by the house everything looked fine but awesome so you called and try to come on Sunday you try to call him yeah and what was the purpose of going on I just wanted to see to check up yeah and say hey did you give her medicine I always make sure that I call him and get asked him if he gets their medicine and everything okay and um did you talk to him like it sounded like he weren't answering something with Meredith in the background and then like so he played the phone rings something picks up the phone picks up yeah and he wasn't talking to you it sounded like he was doing something yeah okay what did you hear in the background um I don't know what your mother sees that's wrong with you okay I think my dad's been back talking to me behind my back my kid that's why she's probably also okay so so you heard that but you said when did you go to your phone and solve 30 seconds um yeah not that long ago like yesterday I was looking through it was trying to figure out okay how long I talked to you on this day here because what did I or they even not answer his phone and then Nitro so did you talk did you talk to him again did you try calling did you ever talk to him on Sunday after that call yeah they just told you on Monday no Monday I had Matthew try and I accidentally can you try to call my daddy while I go to work because um did you try to call him again on Monday um no I didn't try myself I just I go by there and they weren't home and the house looked exactly like it did whenever yeah um when did you tell him she was supposed to be to the doctor she's telling them it's a Saturday yeah normally a mother would be worried if she could not reach the person in charge of her child especially once more than a day had passed Jesse seems more inconvenienced than truly bothered but judging by our answers so far it was more of a relief not to have Meredith with her I told him I said these are I'll text you if I remember remember text and we I also the trailer part number if you can if you still have it can you like you take some of this stuff no I talked to him okay in person I'll say it okay uh you know let me know anything and then all of a sudden when I came home and on the 22nd yeah right after the 27th we're still on the 20th so on the 20th uh you didn't try to call oh no you worked on Sony though yeah but uh I thought you said earlier you tried to call them when the on the 20th whatever the doctor's office called me yeah I don't remember all the days run together on my head oh I understand but do you remember do you remember you told me that on the 20th you try to call them after the doctor's spoken but you didn't talk you couldn't get through to him right yeah because you talk to him anymore on Monday no did you try to call them anymore on Monday this song was going away tonight I figured he was mad at me okay and that's possible but do you remember trying to call him on Monday later on more um no sir I'm Dennis Matthew he can because I don't maybe he'll answer you no we'll get to that but on Monday when you try uh you you try to call him after the doctor's office called right it was ready to voicemail straight to voicemail didn't ring around yeah did you personally try to call him anymore on Monday I said okay I guess I'll give him um it was after I got off work I I just did a drive-by what time what time would you go [Music] my schedule is all crazy but you try to drive past after work on Monday was it daytime or nighttime okay it was so still you can see yeah okay yeah everything looks fine but um when you drove past on Monday was when you said everything looked the same like his what kind of vehicle does he have um he owns the F-350 which I have at the house because when he takes the meat if he was going up north I went looked at the vehicle and it had a key stuck in and a door for us okay and we'll get to that but when you drove past on Monday afterwards did his truck was there yeah what kind of truck what color is it it's gray okay just you have to use other vehicles um he had two other trucks but they're down and they don't work and my minivan sits in the yard with what two other choices um it's a like an old Ranger like when they actually made Rangers okay and it's great it just it just sits there with a bunch of uh okay and then a Dodge 95 Dodge what about Suburban the Suburban was that there on Monday yeah I was there Monday so his truck was there Anna Suburban was there uh did you stop uh I stopped a little bit a little I'm like okay we're on normally did you get out of the knock on the door I just figured if I did I didn't want it what was your purpose to drop that on Monday uh you see if they were home because because you couldn't get through to me yeah okay you told me maybe he's playing with her inside because they color together and they uh did you try calling when you pass by there or anything no I just I said okay well we probably just mad at me so the Suburban was there and his truck because Normal truck was there yeah if you're passing you went home yeah and then did you did you talk to him did you try to call him on Tuesday um I don't remember if I called on Tuesday or not did you try going out there on Tuesday um yeah I went by there on Tuesday yeah what time was that uh before I went to work the landlady said she didn't hear from my dad and they said something about going out of town and everything okay and Vicky where's your workout in Plant City uh Lowe's um Jim Redman General Parkway okay um what way do you normally go to work from your house you just jump on I-4 um no I don't jump on I-4 I only come down through Zephyr Hills and I hit the here's a little road that comes right here uh 54 and then that road right here I can't remember which maybe a cherry or Chansey or something if it hits 39 and I come down that way does anywhere close your dad's house no okay so on when I take that route well two days before we're you obviously had to leave a lot early did you already late Tuesday to work Jesse should have been alarmed when all of the vehicles were accounted for and she still could not contact her father if she had a poor enough relationship with him that he would avoid Jesse while he was taking care of Meredith it is unsettling that Jesse would risk not having access to her daughter um I don't know don't you remember being late call Tuesday clocking in well but having said that you kind of have to leave kind of early to go out of your way and check on your dad's house right yeah I went by there the Suburban was moved for women it was like it was facing for and then let's face it reversed towards the road yeah so we were by there Monday he was facing towards the house and when he went by there Tuesday it was back towards the house yeah facing the road yeah so when that was before work on Tuesday when did you find out something about it you said something about he was was this before you found out about somebody's going to Georgia or something yeah okay so you still don't know about Georgia yet no it's like 22nd he texted us so Tuesday the 21st and you drove by there and you didn't make contact or anything no I haven't I haven't seen him at all no I understand so but you didn't stop on the tortures right like you didn't get out we're not on the door no okay so Wednesday which is the 22nd um I went by there that evening again you still know about Georgia uh when I come home my fiance goes hey baby I'm sorry I'm like I'm sorry about what we come over where from going by there you can work okay when did you go by there on Wednesday though um it was before Tuesday night I went by there no no but Wednesday did you go by there yeah that's awesome I think I did I don't remember okay and then afterward you'll make sure that's fine but you went home afterward yeah on Wednesday you worked Wednesday yeah and and that's when you got home and your boyfriend Cody said something I'm sorry or something yeah and I'm like what he was throwing her sit down and you let me read the text message about a dad having cancer and then I've seen now the phone where I was 20 if he takes it up going to Georgia and I was like okay and he goes I don't know what to say about this I said I don't know either this is years he takes him on the 20th yeah and said he's going to Georgia yeah he didn't tell you that when he said something like sleeping in the car on the way to work well don't even pick him up I want to pick him up uh he's on we normally don't really talk that much we just go home and so apparently he got a message from your dad saying that he's going to Georgia on the 20th he texts Cody that yeah and he also Cody did ask me have you talked your dad lately I said I called him um one costumes in one okay but he still didn't tell you that he says uh Georgia yeah okay and then on Wednesday he showed you the text about he said does your guy that came so did you know that no I know he had some bad spots on his back that looked cancerous and that he's been going to see this one doctor and a doctor had some X-rays done and that he had uh bone spurs uh Oliver's Body okay and because they were trying to find out why his lower lumbar is hurting him okay uh he had a big aluminum log my Cola fall on him and twist him down to the ground is you gotta have a lot of medical problems uh lately he seems like he's been having a lot of them okay does he take a lot of medications so no he doesn't take anything she just said for uh ibuprofen and like prescription so so Wednesday night though on the 22nd that's when you found out that on the 20th he said that he's going to yeah and then um on the 22nd was there anything else your dad said that what he said he had a year later or something yeah and I'm like okay and I'm going to try to call him and let your phone's turned off okay and it wouldn't be a reason why uh you know text Cody that about you like where it has n't I said that he was having problems answering like me answering my phone while this is technically possible it is suspiciously convenient that her father was having trouble sending her messages at this particular time it also doesn't explain why he couldn't have come to her house to tell her in person because you have Metro PCS too I don't know I have straight talk but whenever you get towards the last part before you get the payment if you use all your data up it runs really slow or straight talk is that prepare the phone yes sir where do you get that at Walmart what about Curly Soul California C is same company that actually told me about Straight Talk and said it was their service early yeah well his um his bill was due like the day before mine he had when he has to buy a few cards so he has fresh data on his hard time right but I'm trying to find out how come how come you your dad takes his Texas him and not you that um my dad always talks to Cody if I was coding more things he said that he doesn't want me to worry okay did he think Cody wasn't going to tell you um Cody normally you like know how to explain things to me he's like uh it's not sound bad but you don't know how else to say it that's how he puts it to me and I'm like tell me because like like yeah that was on the 22nd yeah and after and when Cody showed you that stuff was that in the evening or an afternoon or the evening liking he he told me we cried and then did you guys stay at home after that or don't go anywhere else after that we walked over to his parents house to be around people did you tell him break the news to him yeah well they already knew before I did because he had already told him yeah he showed them the text message yeah yes sir so after all this Wednesday evening was a night after you saw in Texas you tried calling your dad or yeah I sent him a text message well did he say he did he did he say when he was going in that text message like when he's going to Georgia no he didn't really say exactly when he was leaving out like to me he didn't no I know that but in the text message to Cody did he say in the text message when he was leaving no okay but he's going to ask that because his cars were there Monday and Tuesday yeah right so I felt like something's gonna happen to the truck so I went down there and checked it and that's when I seen it I don't understand that but rather yeah I'm saying so Wednesday you find out that your dad says he's going to Georgia he hasn't related do you say he's taking your baby yeah okay but we know on the 20th and Monday the 20th and um Tuesday the 21st you drove by there and the cars were there so I probably haven't left yet at that point you know like how else would he get there his girlfriend texted me and said that he rented a car Monday and I'm thinking well she she told you he rented a car one day yeah okay and he's going to Georgia or something and I told her about the cancer and she goes your dad don't have cancer she she tasted you and said that you get it you rented a car uh we talked on the phone yeah okay and um so she told you on the phone that that he rented a car you say how she knew that uh you texted her to her but I haven't seen the text on her phone at all they didn't even know she's telling the truth would she be lying or what's it real I don't know she's the last person that seen my dad like she said that he came over to the house crying about me wanting to sign my rights away and I said I really don't want you that I love my kid but I'm thinking of something that can help her like yeah well so when did you have this phone conversation so when's the night you find out about your debt leave-in and you guys crying and meet with his parents and you know whatever you taught Vicky that night or yeah that's what he's talking on the phone yeah when you go down there to get the stuff to bring up to the house and everything say it again we go down there to between them between that day and Thursday we went down there to get this stuff Wednesday night you talk to her on the phone to Vicky after you find out about yeah okay Jesse's story becomes even more jumbled apparently everyone had more interaction with her father than she did a fact that the detectives are finding hard to believe lately she's been really concerned about the bed that's in my bedroom like oh yeah I said he gave me this bed and I'm like well right now I'm trying to find my dad and we'll get here but so Wednesday did you leave the house Wednesday after that after you find out about did you go Wednesday night to your dad's house I I've always been concerned about getting the stuff like if my dad's gone no I know I know your voice your concerns about it but did you go to your dad's house on Wednesday night yes okay what was it later that night yeah I don't know exactly what time was it dark I was getting dark who went to your dad's with you um all of us who's always um me Cody his parents [Music] and it's locked okay so use your key to go inside yeah front door yeah okay anywhere in the front door there's everything out of place or anything it just stuck in there but everything looked just like it did whenever you guys came over and I filled out that the report okay so it's dunking away it's snowing and it just smell like dead rats or dead something okay oh did you find out what that smell was well I did find some rides and stuff and I threw it in Hawaii you found some rats yeah okay uh they were in the kitchen there yeah did he has he had it for a while um yeah does he put out rat traps or anything yeah and that we've actually found rat feces right by the water here which is The Little Door that's right behind the um dining room set and then I found recipes on the stove so we identify this the smell is the good rats yeah I never threw them away right there yeah okay and what else what else was different about that um I know how I guess the deputy saw how it is now but what else was different from times before and you went there Wednesday night um it just seems off I I don't remember it was Wednesday night or Thursday night I can't remember those days okay but when you went there were you with her Wednesday night or Thursday night whatever night it was you went there and you went inside you know spelled something dead you got the rats out yeah and then they just go anywhere else and look to see like I mean it's harder there did you call it his name or your daughter's name or yeah nothing and I've searched the house there was nothing in there was anything out of a place or missing though no just their stuff was like can't some camping stuff was gone um clothes were gone and pillows okay anything else not that I can tell and I kind of just did it like a quick walk through and I just seen their clothes and okay where was the where was the cases spoken um they hang up right by my dad's desk okay so you get the keys and what is Cody and his parents do at this time are they inside no uh they're dealing with the dog kennel which is outside yeah with your dog in it or something yeah my dog was in it okay he's in the backyard um it's inside the yard right in front of the old Ford when they were dealing with it they're um taking it apart and where's your dog in it yeah my dog has a Long Leash and we put her up on everything you wanna be tighter to the post of the house so the tiger of the dog and then you take the is that what you take the Suburban Network or the landlords yeah where's the land um over um like just right around the woods okay just like around the block or something yeah and did some company go over there I just walked back foreign all the cars were in place and dead rats had been left on the floor this would alarm anyone and a complete search of the house would usually be made Jesse didn't seem to bother yet still somehow managed to notice that some camping gear was missing to uh the house and everything we set it up it'll work well you took your dad's truck up to your house yeah who drove the truck out there oh George did because I can't drive a sick shift okay um I tried and I kind of keep stealing the thing okay so my dad actually laughing what's the next what's the next time you're talking about um did your dad have a song did he tried calling you guys or I I tried saying okay well you like so you told me to sell all this stuff and like what the hell you got overwhelmed with everything like okay wait you got cancer you understand everything in his house once we do this and that so when I paid the bills to the electric company to use power on uh just and then paid a storage unit so we wouldn't lose some stuff in there where's the storage room um Uncle Bob's in the city and where Plant City I like Alexander Street or something Uncle Bob's is there a storage unit yeah like all my days are running together storage there's Uncle Bob's close to the uh Farmers Market over there um no I don't know it's interesting we'll go right in that area where did you go so you were new storage unit is that that's uh my dad and he has me down as a manufacturer and like some of the stuff in there is mine as well it's kind of like incredible someone so you take the the this truck and the dog back to your house and um when did you go pay the light keep the lights on whatever pay the light bill um I don't remember and I just know it it's like we're on the first so are you thinking at this point you guys are not coming back or something well I didn't know like he's freaking out like when I was little one of the biggest without we moved closer to family he's losing his house and stuff I'm moving to Florida because that I just I hated Georgia okay you're growing up there and he goes okay well I'm losing my house and I'm losing my job and everything and I wouldn't I come with you and yeah sure okay I've heard they get hot truck and everything we went to Florida basically it seems like whenever my dad gets a big scare he runs from the state that he actually had the big scare in even though you can't really run through your problems yeah so but you take the dog up there and then you pay pay the bills and that kind of so are you doing that because you think you guys not coming back no I'm doing it because I just want to make sure everything's taken care of for him if he comes back I don't know what he's what his plans are what's going on through it's mine at all okay you know it's just a two-week scare or something what about what about uh is your daughter on she takes all this medication right yeah is it was that at the house yeah Dad's house still yeah I've seen that and I was kind of a little concerned that's why I started calling family and plus I haven't been able to get afford to family goes straight to voicemail my friend Amy came to town I hung out with her for a bit and talked to her about what's going on uh she's my friend she's in the Marine Corps it was realizing um Plant City okay yeah is she back in on leave or something uh she was back for a little bit because she went to ACC to um apply for them she went to work does a police force any uh I think she said it was agency so she's back to Hillsborough Community College uh HCC yeah I think she she went back to do like an interview and everything and to see she can get into the Police Academy when she gets out in December that's I understand that but is she here now in back in Florida uh no she's left already wouldn't she leave um she left um the following Monday I don't know what day it was after her birthday from [Music] um Challenger here she left on a Monday yes and so the following Monday after you like the second day your daughter was at your dad's she left them a week later yeah so that would have been on July 27th she left on the 27th yeah who would you hang out with her um we hung out with her um and her at chili so when when was that Jesse keeps partially answering questions or giving locations rather than dates it could be a deliberate attempt to dodge the questions while still giving the appearance of compliance I think it was Saturday post Saturday or something a couple days before she left yeah I don't know on Sunday too just tell about like the situation your Daddy yeah well calm down call the Family see what's going on with them see if he's up there you know he likes your camping and stuff and I just can't even stop it missing so you know did you tell that your daughter's medication was so balanced yeah she goes well all over medication is yeah I'm like all three uh bottles that they gave her okay um she said hmm well she does behave better with him but maybe he can go up there to take him to a doctor up there as I mentioned that two I think I left it in the voicemail I'm not sure what um the paper for the doctor up there okay I don't I don't remember okay we'll talk through a counselor too this time she came over to the house I talked with her about how nigger's gone and with my dad up to Georgia and uh counselor I don't know her counselor yeah she came out of your house yes when was that um it was on a Wednesday so this past Wednesday no Tuesday I'm sorry Tuesday at 11. so this past like several days ago yeah okay yeah she goes well he needs to get her medication I said I know and that's why I'm trying to get in contact with him and I'm trying to find out where my family which one he went with because like we have a big family and he knows a lot of people up there so and that nobody talks about uh Georgetown Georgia where Atlanta he had another house and he has a key to it so but uh did you ever contact in your family yeah I've been talking to my aunt Jan my Aunt Sharon um I've been talking to my cousin Tara on Facebook hi you have Facebook yeah where's your Facebook name um do you go about anything else other than Cheyenne no is it Cheyenne Jesse on Facebook yeah it was tears last night um party it's weekly now but on Facebook it's still working hard and head or something I can't pronounce it yeah did you ask him hey you see my dad yeah I've talked to them and stuff like that and I've as I was like hey what's going on and so then I'm like well this is what I know I even they even posted a thing on there and I even put on there what I know um that he took with him and that he said something about cancer and um my dad wouldn't say he had a cancer unless he had it because he knew it it freaked me out unless he was trying to teach me a lesson but showing me that I do care about my kid and so you contact all these family member did they say they've seen your dad or her friend today they call around and everything they said uh Vicki said that he rented a car tried to run all places that tried going to the bank and asking them I understand one thing um JT Federal Credit Union um well it's in Plant City and Lakeland and they have one in Tampa as well but you went to the bank yeah which which branch um it's a plant city and I told everyone where's that in Plant City um it's the same strip that uh most advantage of them in partly okay JT what's his name uh GTE oh GT do you think yes and so what day did you go there was this after you talked to your cousin or something about your cousin um Anthony from the Marines um she left on Monday so did you see her on that Monday she left no okay is that do you know what day you went to the bank starting from Monday no and actually everything just starts fumbling in where we trying to have to go to do work and trying to figure out what originally Bank did you go inside there yes sir yeah [Music] um I talked to one of the ladies I always talk to and I don't know her name um there's one with gray curly hairs one with straight hair what does it really talk to the other thing I think it's the girl with the straight hair the younger girl or yeah white black white okay then do you Bank there too yeah okay so that's why you always talk to him yeah they know you I guess yeah and you real name you asked the one um hey I was wondering if you can uh pull up my dad's uh accounts and see if if you rented a car through using this bank card or something like that they said well let's see if you're on the accountant I'm like well I know I'm a beneficiary or anything but like to make sure that I can close this account if anything happens to him or anything like that I said but I just want to see if you rented the car through using this bank card or something and they say well we can't divulge that information to you I'm like well I'm really concerned because I ain't parking my dad in a couple of days I was pretty freaking out like I like as I'm driving I'm crying like I'm I've cried so much this morning well I'm starting to feel like something's wrong okay because I mean and I'm thinking okay well what the heck pretty much what it is I called my uncle and everything like use my aunt's number and I talked to all of them and they said okay my aunt's phone oh okay who's your aunt all right Janice weekly where she live at um she lives with my uncle Steve how many words that end did you go to Georgia or something no I called there I I haven't even called you called there and your aunt yeah and she got on the phone yeah okay I've been talking with them for the past couple days now like trying to figure out um who all his friends are you having Uncle George which is my godfather um he lives in by Durant high school um ask him okay do you guys know of anything like that and like where it could be have you seen him or heard anything about him did you tell them that he was with your daughter yeah I said my daughter and him are missing and my uncle Mike posted it on my Facebook where's Mark and like everybody else started commenting on there while I'm trying to call people and I'm I'm getting flustered because I'm like I don't know what to do and he's calmed me down several times and say hey look calm down because you can't focus on everything if you're like Professor Butler huh okay but uh like so you go to the bank they won't say anything because you're always yeah and then I guess I'm gonna find out anything there no I'll get my aunt no school you know about what day that is because let's go back because Amy left on Monday yeah do you know about where it was you went to the bank was it like like today's Saturday night Sunday morning was it like Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday was it Friday that you went there or um did you work that day you went to the bank no no I was off I went around the base and yeah I was always the day I went and paid the shade okay and we went to the bank where you by yourself yeah okay okay um and what's the next thing that happens after you go to the bank and I guess throughout the days you're talking to your family and stuff what's the next thing did you go back to the house again I went back there looking to see it when was that uh I know you were there today earlier today but when you I guess I'll call the police from there yeah okay when did you go back there before today um today for me and Matthew went and got a couple things out of the house because I got concerned okay well you know what'd you go um I got picture frames uh like family pictures and stuff I got some of his tools that's the way like that was my grandfather as you said uh they said he meant to him and I got his DVDs out of there that are mixed with mine in this case and then I got um his crossbow that he had but nothing was missing at all except for his camping stuff in the clothes yeah nothing else nothing significant missing um he in his San Francis he said he got what he wanted he got what he need sell the rest I don't care about it basically what about this thirty thousand dollars is that there no the tower was missing too okay Saturday uh is that pretty significant yeah like my dad had like I asked if I was I don't know what you're talking about say that again he said that he didn't know what I was talking about I said well I'm just seeing the accounting and he goes what are you talking about like you like you're dead yeah like one day you started downtown all this money yeah and I asked him about it like this was a while back for me and Cody got together okay so you're still living there yeah so he's got all his money wearing like the living room or the bedroom okay and did you see where he got the money from you know you never told me yeah you just kind of basically blushes up like I don't know what you're talking about well he knows some computers because you know put it in it oh did I say no yeah but he's counting it because I want five to four and he kind of jumped me okay I don't know what my my dad said he had a pass a long time ago that and I don't know what it is like a secret Fest yeah it was in the military an unexplained amount of money and a secret past it is almost like Jesse is pulling her story from a thriller none of it makes sense and it is far too convenient to be believable you go over there a couple times like how many times you go over there and get stuff out of there um I just got step out of there um yesterday just the only day yeah so was it on Friday yeah okay well like I'm kind of I don't know if I'm just afraid of Something's Gonna have to get a house like someone's gonna break in or anything so what else would you take the tools the tools the family pictures the movies and the crossbow that he had in there and then he also had he also had a um a Walking Dead uh game thing you plugged up to the TV and you feel like you're shooting zombies okay um I also took his tackle boxes too you still have any guns my dad does have guns I took his guns um before he left he took his guns before he left yes uh um Snake Charmer and a couple uh I don't know it's not like this Olive silver and black that's all I know I don't know what kind I don't know it's a rifle yeah okay you took that and then it had two other old guns with it and I just kind of what kind of guns they're handguns long guns so he took three guns yeah just before he left yeah a few legs would take him yeah he told me uh take on where to be safer instead about in that old truck where people can fly break into it okay where'd you put against it um I put them in the camper and then he totally took them over to the house the um I put them behind my daughter's cot ton so now I've been early week not considered but that hospital from Orlando yeah so they were only there like a week yeah when did you take over Jody's um but Cody's parents house um yeah yeah I took them over there before Meredith came back if I remember correctly I don't know everything's all jumbled up I know but what if you were taking over there before Meredith gots back because you said you had to even hide knives yeah so I would imagine you would leave them there whenever America was there right I don't leave nothing around with marriages around so it hadn't been before she got there so so he has three guns that's it yeah but uh I know he has a handheld revolver that I was missing too so that's missing yeah yeah and like I just figure okay well you know he takes it with him because he always keeps it in his pocket okay how big is he um yeah it was like little with like it's handheld and how long is the barrel I mean how long has it got anything [Music] I'm silver with like the regular Uh Wood kind of on the handle the Cody do you know what kind of thing they're like what caliber or anything no sir you think it's like nine millimeter or no there's a wheel on it yeah I don't know what but that guy's missing you have no idea where it's at yeah when's the last time you touched me now um I I tell them I don't really care to touch guns really have you ever touched that game no that's good you ever touched that game no where does your dad normally keep that gun bite right by him because he always I mean he's he went like this a couple times whenever I walked into his house and I say well you left the door open and everything he goes he got a shot right by him like wherever he goes yeah like I want to be underneath his pillowcase with him or it'll be like uh like little Cubbies or anything underneath the calories yeah it's always just laying out with a holster or uh no it just plays like underneath the pillow with him because you know sometimes he's a heavy sleeper sometimes people like sleepers it depends on how tired he gets that Darren day okay all right here yeah yeah and where did your daughter sleep when she's there oh she sleeps in the bedroom with her bed and my bed in it that was our bedroom when you went over to the house any of these days well the rats were there that I guess that first day he went there and he threw away um was that the only thing that was smelling the hill threw away no after um I found a [ __ ] underneath the house I took it out and threw it raccoon yeah yeah underneath the house yeah how did you find out around the house why'd you look under there but I was trying to figure out where I smell what's coming from I looked around that right there I cleaned up dog [ __ ] but it wasn't dog [ __ ] that's not that bad yeah the garage were done in the kitchen yeah and there was a dead raccoon under the house yeah with that many dead animals on the property there should have been an indication that something was horribly wrong okay how did you look at the house how did you do that oh my dad's flashlight is a lattice or covering around um it's that one spot it's broken right there so if you look underneath there broken leg out like it's been bent like someone's been underneath there okay is it all the way on the ground or no it's just like bent like where someone's been reaching underneath there so you look under there with the flashlight and we saw that raccoon yeah where was it oh right by the airplane how Fortress I took a big long thing and shoved underneath therapy to pull it out uh it's like one of the things that you go and cut trees with or something like the pole saw yeah that's crazy like a manual pole saw yeah so you stuck that other and Drug it out yeah okay what'd you do with raccoon I threw it out in the woods but if I'm looking at the house [Music] what side of the house was the raccoon we're looking at the house on the street yeah all right that side the left side yeah okay and I just chopped it out there I don't know where it went so you took it's just the side of the house this is the bottom of the house down here you're over here you see the raccoon you pull it out you throw it in the woods over here yeah okay how far is it ready to go yeah it is nothing out with the house pretty clean other than that no food left out or anything no oh except for the hamburger meat that was in the sink that I threw out in the trash can Thursday because the there was like maggots and stuff okay this Friday morning is a trap tonight was the house pretty clean though did you do anything um I spray the floor with a roach killer spray because the fleas being about in the house why'd you do that um yeah you didn't go buy any or anything like that I bought some extra ones for them and buy bots and bombs they're off in the house I don't remember my job I have lots of boxes so that's right we can pack some of this stuff up this is after he left you bought yeah bombs yeah just quiet and cleaning stuff um I bought laundry soap for us to use at the house which just like wash my clothes clean and stuff for your dad's house no just basically I bought paint for mine and Cody's place where they're fixing to paint our bedroom to lighten it up in there I bought it um the boxes and some tape to box up some of this stuff since he wanted to get rid of it all I was just going to throw it into a storage unit with my name on it so that's why I'd be like hey here's your stuff you know I don't really want to get rid of your stuff here it is you do with it it's yours so what kind of bombs did you buy at Lowe's um a little fogger the purple ones like just single ones or they come in the package uh something like a free package okay how many packages for the house um I bought some air freshener and some candles my dad's house always stinks does it always smell like that animals all right oh he's dealt with rats before and he smokes constantly in like propane smell from him using it on the stove because his soap went out from roaches with my fiancee um it was electric stove okay that little thingy up here that tells you the time and everything it won't let you push the turn it on or anything or do anything with it so he bought the the uh the air freshener candles and two packages of bombs yeah okay I set them off this way the house could like get rid of the roaches and stuff yeah you do that uh I set them off before I went big Cody up Friday on Friday yeah did you notice anything else in the house that didn't look right I just I looked around and I see where my dad looked like he laid blankets out on the couch the like lay on and stuff I mean I've said on that couch isn't anything that's just I just still smell a little funny smell and I just said all the couches when said your dad left yeah okay was it shoots there yeah um does your diagonally sleep on the couch or sometimes you fall asleep on the couch but he mainly sleeps in his bed because that's that's his cat charges back and he has to be up and down all the time so so what he doesn't normally helps him um um he used to sleep on couch when we had that one that's out on the porch in the house although Jesse had given the impression earlier that things are tense between her and her father and that they don't communicate well she still has a detailed knowledge of his habits and routines she claims to be unsure of his sleep patterns but in the next sentence confidently replies that she knows where he sleeps but it started hurting his back really bad so he started going back to his bed how long has it been back I don't know what his sleep pattern's been like since I've been with my fiance thank you but before you left was he sleeping back in his bed again or what yeah now those are the sheets on the couch or just and what what's his furniture no it's like it's a double power recliner thing there's a hawk and devil uh like power you know you push the button and it right now one person I know it's for two people to sit right here yeah and like a couch over here it was that he has a loveseat and a couch that's it yeah and then he got the last name coupons yeah and the couch has some other client where did you get that from um The Landlady cleaned out one of those houses I didn't do that and she said well since they haven't cleaned the furniture or anything you can have the couch the Cody helped loaded into the house that dude I'm moving that couch again it was heavy so was the what had the sheet on the couch or the low too um let's see how the sheet on it which was my old Barbie sheet um and then had a pillowcase with one of Barbie doll uh Barbie pillowcase on it and then the couch had my little lion king blankets on on it and the pillows on it okay then my daughter was laying on the chair or a couch or something like that's where they can lay down and they sit comfortably and watch the TV okay um I I did take the pillowcase off the pillowcase off of that little pillow and put it on the big pose hopefully he could take a nap while we were waiting to figure out what's going on with my kid and my dad um but so you didn't put the sheets there and pills and so if they were there already there yes sir when you the first time you went in there uh I guess was that Wednesday night when you went there and you all moved the trucks and cars all those sheets there then yeah okay and everything's the same nothing's really changed well besides the fact that this guy's missing yeah and yeah okay yeah there was a dead there were two dead rats in there and then the dead um raccoon underneath the house yeah I wanted to give the raccoon from or anything else um and so I was so easy one with the jungle together in my mind because there's just so much that's happened and I've been worried so sick and you mean well did your guy take his phone with him or did he tell you he was going to call you or uh he said he was getting a new number and so I've been waiting for the number and if it never happened so I started calling this one I really and I think he said something weird oh she said I don't know if you guys dead or something in the house I said when we've been in the house there's no no there's nothing there okay so why would you say that why are you like freaking me out here because like where did you throw the ground beef in um in a trash can like the one that goes to the road yeah what what day was that uh it was Thursday okay when does the trash come Friday morning did you take the price out of the street no you know me too or I mean I think I want the property and get it I'm not Josh always takes trash out for us the neighbor okay so even for your dad he took the trash in the street he normally does um like if my dad's out of town or something no he'll do that I haven't watched the house for me to see if anything's going on because he does causes it doesn't go he's out of town unless he told him he's going to enjoy right well you know I asked him if he knew about my dad going to Georgia or anything he said no I didn't know I said well he said he had cancer I told them that when asked about the trash Jesse grows hesitant as if she hasn't thought this part of her story through everything but as far as you know did the trash come and get the yeah because we found it when we came there what else was in the trash can there were some black bags in there was um it was about probably halfway full okay I didn't really open the bags no I understand but just through the mean there's about halfway yeah the trash cans in the and the um what by the washer or in the bathroom in there okay um did you know did you see your dad's phone at his house um the iPhone was at his house I took it over to the landladys um and I I didn't know it was like an iPhone until like we took the case off of it and it said iPhone I thought that was the iPhone like okay that's the trailer park number and then I seen an iPhone case in the uh your dad has a the landlady gets him a phone yeah okay we're trying to fart for maintenance yeah okay so is that an iPhone yeah okay what's his personal phone his personal phone is like an a something rather I can't pronounce the name of it is it like a smartphone yeah a smartphone or Android or what's that at the house um yeah okay did you find that strange yeah to the house okay and [Music] um is she there no she's in Utah right now okay and stuff I cranked the Suburban up and I hit the power thing that opens the garage in there yeah okay I basically checked the dogs and see if it had food and water for me where'd you put the soda I put it up on the table and then when me and my fiance came Thursday we went in there and I guess he must have put it in his pocket um he said there might be something on here we needed and I said I don't know and I I was kind of dealing with the dog and I've been flustered because I can't focus but don't do any cleaning in the house besides there didn't even need to be any cleaning done at that house no no I just he needed his dishes done no but you but you you didn't do the dishes but you got rid of the bugs right yeah that's great that's a spray off in the house well why would you do that without the dishes well dishes are already done in Diner and that's what he needed to do the dishes yeah like pots and pan in the sink double dirty yeah why didn't you wash those I just then you wouldn't touch it and but yeah which I'll touch it right there raccoon I like like calling please trash can after you do after you threw the raccoon in the woods you through the tallest by the trash can yeah where'd you get the phone from the kitchen he has like several countries that's grilling pushed in dealing with sprinkling and scrubbing or anything like that nothing yeah um what do you think what do you think happened here to your dad and your daughter maybe he didn't leave Florida and he went over to Biggie's house and she did something that's what I'm feeling I should do more I don't know if she's like I don't know that's so weird when I'm around her okay what do you think she did I think she might hurt them or something or maybe she has them in her house why'd you start getting that feeling when she started being more concerned about that stupid bed versus my daddy um what project did you finally call the police well I haven't we I've done checked everything out and see if he really did go up there and found everybody to talk to and I was like well that's done you talk to him I'm really freaking concerned so I went and I looked and your office was the the um state troopers was closed yeah so I waited to the morning to try to call you guys because I didn't know what the numbers were and I my friend uh that's friends with Matthew Cody um his name's Kurt and he and his wife gave us number to call you guys what number 911 no not 911 the actual police place the Sheriff's Office yes sir um it's out there so did you know Tony Cody took that song over there I mean um no and he when he gets when he normally gets off work and stuff he's like he doesn't really thank you when did you find out you took the phone uh like when we were there at the house when we were looking and he I guess he must have slipped his mind uh my dad's house right what did you talk about today yes that's when you found out he had a phone yeah isn't it true you found out that he had a phone yeah he was okay I didn't know what this phone was like I was like okay well I thought because I was thinking that okay well did Dad buy an iPhone 5 because I know you had one for the landlady isn't it true you felt like you had the song whenever you in front of the police yeah okay okay remember I took it I said no I can't remember anything like everything's so funny yeah you said when he took but you told me earlier when he took it he said maybe there's something on it yeah I didn't think he I did until I told him it also put it down I know but so you just but you also just said you didn't know me on the phone until the police were there yeah so did you know he had the phone at the house when he took it did you know he had the phone when the police were there he had the phone in his hand when we were at the house at Lily's house and then I just thought he might put it down after I told you and I didn't know you really like actually kept it with them I guess he forgot about it but we we forget when we're worried about somebody's life here what did you start worrying about their lives when I can't get in contact with my family make contact with them and making all she is is concerned about this stupid bed why is all the stuff in your dad's room pilot on the bed because I was I was getting the family photos out of the closet such but it wouldn't get ruined just property or was there just yet did you get like three mattresses on there or something yeah yeah that that's always been there that's how you had to say you had to make it comfortable for layoffs is there sheets on it yeah okay so you just started stacking stuff up from the floor on the bed yeah you didn't see anything there or anything like any blood or anything like that no sir and what it was a block of where's the album at the photo album oh they're in the closet that's what my daddy it's like an album there's a couple album books there's some boxes that have uh pictures in them and then there's like a plastic tote kind of things and then there's like um but you I got old suitcase kind of looking like it has oh how would you make it GT as well yes sir what about Matthew um Wells Fargo horseback to see what I'm gonna use which branch um you know the other has a long take a bump to the hills or the one there in Lakeland you wanna by Publix yeah yes sir yes sir and um do you only use the ATM or for money or do you keep money on you or I don't want to keep money on me I I don't know I'll just use my bank card for gas and stuff and he'll give me some money every now and then uh let me ask you something do you know uh did you graduate in high school um yeah I graduated with special ed okay did you go to college no I've been wanting to but I just kind of I want to focus more on my daughter okay you say special like you graduated what does that mean um basically my reading and my spelling kind of the detectives will need to track Jesse's finances to see if she bought anything that could be traced back to the crime yeah yeah but you get a job and yeah are you a cashier yeah okay so you can count money you know yeah um well it takes me a while to learn something but once I learned it I'm I'm pretty good at it and I've been in cashier before up in Georgia Okay so at Lowe's um no I'm up to Georgia I've worked at Pizza Hut was my first job my cousin's hair um no I was a person who did the prepping and washing the dishes which everyone can eat more dishes but now you're worth money and pretty Goodwin accused of steal money or didn't tell well or anything no sir I double count I double counted the end I found it once I counted twice and I can't actually customer okay that's what I shot at Dollar General when I worked there yes McDonald's McDonald's at the cashier two one I was pregnant with my daughter do you know how uh sales sell cellular the cell phones work you know these work they don't have a plug like a house phone do they they don't have like a cord and stuff right no better Wireless right do you know how the wireless works though um yeah it bounces off the satellite right sort of yeah so have you ever seen those cell towers they're tall they get like things coming off of them yeah that's what your cell phone uses okay yeah if you live in an area where you don't get that much signal yeah on your phone it looks like sometimes it doesn't work why do you think that is um because you're in a bad area and well what we mean by that area like maybe there's like it's time picking up the frequencies or something like that do you think maybe because there's not a tower nearby probably okay um if you were in the middle of the desert there were no cell phone towers do you think your cell phone's gonna work no okay so the only way your cell phone works is by snow Towers right yeah so if you if you uh drive from your house let's say there's a cell tower in your front yard I'm not saying there is let's say there's a sale time you're probably going if you think your phone is going to be using that cell tower at your house yeah okay do you think if you drive Plant City and go to Lowe's do you think yourself was going to be using that same Tower no because what uh there might be another one probably or closer yeah okay um so my dad explained it to me he did yeah why are you why do you do that you wanted me to learn um what did you explain that to you um whenever I first got a cell phone okay so having said that if your dad you give those 45 minutes from you say yeah so several miles and I know I'm familiar with you're up way up on 98 North right almost to a different accounting right yeah and your dad is all the way down south almost to a different County right yeah like Hillsborough County which is like a city and stuff so do you do you think that if you're talking to him on your cell phone at your house and he's talking to you on his cell phone in his house do you think both of you guys are using the same Tower no okay so when you're traveling we've learned that when you're traveling your phone's gonna use the closest Tower okay um I'm telling you that because whenever uh your phone your dad's phone is being used we can we're going to get all those phone records okay we're also going to get all your phone measures okay we're also going to get all Matthew's phone records or Cody's phone records and I'm gonna be it's it's gonna show you it's going to show us everybody you're calling and texting whether it's a phone call went through or not um and where you were when you made those phone calls same thing with your dad's phone okay um we're gonna see we're going to see text messages this stuff is deleted it's not deleted the the stuff might be deleted off the phone but I still don't hear Peter somewhere so I'm saying yeah like if I take them with a bunch of stuff yeah I found that weird that all of those text messages were kind of blank and I have been um all right Josh said that he's been seeing this guy rides down the road with a bicycle too um like every day there's a guy that rides down the road um Greenfield I don't know I was just thinking that well this that guy that you just said has nothing to do in this case yeah zero a guy who doesn't mean this so [Music] um but here's the deal so we're gonna be able to see all the university starts to lead off the phone we're gonna be able to see the text messages and everybody calls and stuff and whatever it stays okay this goes back for years okay um so we'll be able to get something from last week [Music] um we're also [Music] um I'm just I'm concerned about a lot of stuff here um Cheyenne okay and I'm not saying you're a bad person at all I know you have a very tough life okay uh having to deal with your daughter and those situations and uh do you love your daughter yes sir thank you I love you with all my heart all right um but I know you're having a tough time with that and and it's affecting your relationship um because you said that even with your guard out there it's made it better for you and Cody to work on your problems and get better as a unit so we can handle her right right um but but I have a Israel um I have a weird suspicion that um that we're not going to find a raccoon in the woods by by your by your dad's house are we I threw one out there we're gonna finally recommend that he threw out there and show you they should be out there I don't know if it is wild out there I don't know so they're just not there but a animal getting a guy I don't know I don't know what goes on in my neighborhood well we know what dead raccoons are going to be picked up by they got a bicycle right no so I'm saying if it's not there you're saying it's got to be the animals I got them right I could have went out there that's all I know I know are we gonna find it out there it should be able to find one out there but if it's not out there where where does it go how did it leave um I don't think that to be honest with you I don't think that uh you found dead raccoon or the house number one because you already said that you found rats in the house which I do not you know okay um so if you got the rats out why would you what would make you look and you said that was what was thinking yeah and you said that the meat and maggots already on so yeah but I could tell you that the garbage can does not smell anything like raw meat was in there that stuff smells horrible horrible yeah I'm gonna tell you right now I cook a lot of stuff in my house okay a lot of meat that's all and I give you a lot of shoes right I throw meat and bones and money and I was poster because if it's in the bag they don't like it but I still do it okay I don't follow all the rules and stuff but I throw I'll throw meat in my garbage can and it rods and uh so it gets real disgusting I should go um but that's that's metal does not go away it doesn't just disappear unless you unless you clean it out with bleach and put special perfumes in there all that stuff but we had guys either smell in that garbage can we didn't smell anything like run meat that would lead me to believe that there was no right weed there walk around in there that would make me believe there's nobody meeting there but here's what I think okay I don't think you're a bad person but I do think that you know where your dad is and when your daughter is okay and if you love your daughter your dad I would think that you would be honest about it I don't know where they are at all you know I'm going to tell you that when we find your dad and your daughter okay I could I can assure you that we're going to know what happened to him and we're gonna know how they got there isn't going to be any evidence whatsoever to suggest that you had anything to do with their disappearance nothing nothing like that answer my question is going to be any evidence that you had anything to do with your disappearance I'm not calling you a better person no my fingerprints are on their stuff because I always move their stuff in the house all the time I mean that's cool Dad what's this you know but is it gonna be I didn't ask you that I ask you is there gonna be any evidence in your dad's truck that would lead us to his disappearance yeah that you moved you have to understand what you're saying here you're telling me that you the that you don't even stop at your dad's house after he didn't even take you went by there you the doctor's office you are so concerned about your daughter that you don't make sure that she goes to the doctor but you drive past your dad's house he looks like he's there and he's finding everything but he didn't take her to the doctor so why would you stop Cheyenne why will you stop I just did I don't want to do I didn't want to deal with my dad but that's your daughter you said you love your daughter with all your heart mothers die for their kids yeah and a bad relationship with your dad is not going to stop a mother from making sure her daughter gets the proper treating that she needs especially if she has problems you see what I'm saying yeah so if you if you made mistakes fine we could deal with them but I need to know when I'm sick was not going and actually knocking on the door and that's not your only mistake okay you said you made it perfectly clear that your daughter's in a better place with your dad yeah but you made it perfectly clear now that the detectives have gone on the offensive Jesse is struggling to maintain her story but that's the deal but if I would have just know that he's kind of raw and I know why I'm gonna tell you Cheyenne I know why you decided to uh go get all these bug sprays and air fresheners okay it's not because dead rats are in there you think them rats just happen to die there right when your dad left do you think your dad's going to be in the house with dead rats with your daughter doesn't your dad love your daughter he made it perfectly clear according to you that he wanted to spend his last year of his life with his dog with his granddaughter why would he have him walking around with their rats in the house that's because that's not what happened that's not what happened I know why you got the the bug killer and the cleaners and I know that the house was cleaned up and I know that your dad did not put those sheets on the couch I know that that's impossible that's impossible because what's on that couch if if what's on that couch we went through those sheets so the sheets weren't just been you you know what you're saying yeah what's on that couch if your dad has sheets on there if if your dad had sheets on the couch and something happened that's going to be on the sheets okay I'm telling you right now I just need you to be honest with me I don't think you found a dead Rick okay I really don't think that I think you're probably here under the house but I think that you know where your dad and your daughter is and if you say that you don't now but we later on we show that you do know that doesn't show any love whatsoever in my book regardless of what happened if you have no remorse whatsoever for anything to do with their disappearance that makes you look bad that makes you during people realize she don't care about them she doesn't love them but people make mistakes all the time and if you share remorse for that then you know we can we can understand that okay but I just need to know from you because it's going to look bad if something happened that's what I'm saying and you know we're talking to Cody and Cody's dad and I don't know what Cody's saying right now I'm going to find out like if he's telling a different story your stories don't match then I know you're lying okay I just want you to be honest and now is the time now because I don't want company telling on you for something and you're taking some blame for something but if you I'm gonna tell you right now husbands and wives best friends they do it all the time they're not going to be in trouble they're going to play place blame on somebody else and I think what he's going to say he's going to tell us what happened and he's going to blame it on you he's going to say who's your idea because it's your kid what happened I lost my daughter with my dad I know you're lucky with him what happened I don't know Cheyenne I'm telling you I definitely right there I do I do get rid of them yeah I was rocking underneath there but you didn't throw in the woods because there's no evidence of that how people learn now there's no evidence for that whatsoever zero zero you didn't throw me in the garbage can because there was no meat in the house that was rotten do you know how long it takes for their for me to arrive like a yeah how well do you say um I know we put some out in the trash can at our house and they were talking about the trash can I'm talking about if I took how big was the package of me I'm not like this day what kind of meat was it it was from uh what kind of meat was it ground beef okay and that wasn't that was where the sink yeah inside the house yeah it was like kind of like looking like dark dark color okay but there wasn't matters and stuff on it it's impossible what night was it that you felt like Wednesday night uh Thursday no you said Wednesday yeah you said Wednesday night after your afternoon after Cody told you that about the text message was supposed to leave and I don't buy that either he's not going to have text messages on his phone that your dad is leaving the state with your beloved daughter okay because he has a year to live he's not going to tell you that because he forgets stuff you don't forget stuff that's enough that's huge that that's huge a man your dad okay whether it be your dad or not uh your dad is taking your daughter out of the state because he's dying according to him and he's going to change phones and all this stuff allegedly get all this stuff I don't even think your dad sent those text messages if they even exist did your did Cody delete them no just do it all as well the detective picks apart everything Jesse has said pointing out every inconsistency and wild claim Jesse is unsure about how to counter his accusations but stubbornly insists that she isn't lying for his phone here's what I'm gonna see when I look at the phones I can promise you this okay I can promise you if if they're on Cody's phone or whatever your dad whatever text message that or phone calls you made from your phone if you really did to your dad this was going to sell the record so I can see anything at all because it just didn't happen or we're going to see your dad's phone in the same place as your phone is in the same place Cody's phone is that means that those phones are near each other and together and the only way that would be happening is if your dad was sitting next to you text me and they were calling you and people would all do that they turn and talk to them right but these text messages are talking about going to Georgia and stuff but it was not sent from the same room so no I'm wondering what we're wondering is is what happened because we're going to be able to put all that together okay I'd rather not waste my time and find the daughter that you love that it seems like I care more about right now and I want to find your father that seems like I care more about will right now I want to find them I want to find them too okay but I need you to tell me the truth you know what happened to them now you should be honest with me what happened Cheyenne I'm telling you you know that here's what's again the meat with the meat situation it takes about two weeks okay for meat like raw meat I'm not talking about humans it takes about two weeks for all me to get that way okay when you drop your daughter off in your dad's house and you went inside and stuff wasn't me in the in the uh yeah there's me in the sink there's need to see yeah and he says I don't know about this meat it looks kind of gross stupid oh so he likes it there when he left any left dead rats on the floor where he left really come on Cheyenne just be honest be honest and I'm telling you right now I'll just be honest because if you're not honest then we find out you had something to do with The Disappearance with your father and your daughter it's going to make you look like a horrible person do you think you're a horrible person yes or no I feel like a warm weather like my dad you're a horrible person in general no I do everything that I got and maybe everything by you like I work hard I try to let them keep doing it then keep doing it being a good person because right now you know okay if you if you do everything by the book and work hard and you're a great person and you know all that stuff then do the right thing I'm telling you what I remember or what I know okay but you're not gonna forget The Disappearance of your mother or student of your father your father and your daughter how'd that happen so I want you to tell me how to happen all I know is that and I know you're gonna do it by yourself where are they let's just go over there just tell me where they're at because we're going to find them I don't know just tell me where they're at Cheyenne I don't know honest to God I don't know guys not here okay right this guy here no so don't cry I understand that but he's not going to be able to tell me that you're telling the truth I just want to know where they're at [Music] I thought they had their house is that what stinks I don't see them at the house I like their reviews something happened in the house I know that okay there's a lot of the house there's one of those okay and I know you know what happened I'm trying to find out from you did you get usually did you go in there and find some bad stuff and you were scared and you guys covered it up and did something with them just tell me that they didn't they didn't that nothing bad happened there and they got up and walked out there on their own you don't remember something bad happened there oh I love everything looks normal but it's not normal okay the sheets that you guys put on those couches and loveseat is covering up stuff is covering up stuff that we saw that you knew how we got there okay so if you go in and find some bad stuff in the house I can understand if you're scared and you want to hide stuff I understand that okay I also know where the team went out of the house not just bug spray you decided for some reason you all decided that you need to clean stuff up okay trust me I know this so what did where's your where's your daddy daughter [Music] so what what's going to happen when we see your dad's phone communicating with your phone what's going to happen when that call doesn't even exist on your phone on Monday when you said you tried to call and then you go straight to voicemail after to make sure he took your daughter to to uh to the doctor what's going to happen when that call doesn't exist what's going to happen if that call does exist but it's in the same place as your phone or Kobe's phone what's going to happen next because I'm not it's going to look very very Troublesome Cheyenne if your phone is communicating with your dad's phone but you guys are up in North Lakeland Jesse isn't going to be able to explain about the cell phones and both she and the detective know this there are many holes in her story but the cell phone records are going to be the easiest to disprove her version of events I really don't think you're a bad person I think you want to do the right thing and be honest if you went in there you saw something I remember okay but you're not going to forget that so you need to remember where they're at so we can find them at least at least do that at least tell us where they're at are they at the house Cheyenne yes or no I don't hear I don't know are they at the house yes or no because it's either you they are there they're not there and you know where they're at are they at that house yes or no where are they at Cheyenne you're doing that's not gonna happen because let me tell you right now is there blood in the house thank you as the last person thank you we already we already could tell I can already tell you that Vicky had nothing to do with this okay my main concern right now is finding your dad and your daughter and I don't want to mess with this all night I just want to find them what regardless of what happened I want to find them Okay so it doesn't makes you look like a horrible mother and person if you know where they're at and we can prove that and you you said you don't know that that doesn't make you look like your mother good loving mother that you do anything for your daughter does it if it is then act like it don't protect anybody this is your daughter she's six years old Cheyenne she's six years old she might have had some problems should I look at look at me move your hands sit up straight because I don't see one tear coming out okay I don't see once a year yes you do we are we already know enough we have we have enough information to those parts of your story that that aren't true you gotta answer our questions this is this stuff we have to know all right for your daughter for your daughter we need to find her you do know we have not enough people in the neighborhood that know that you know we didn't just talk to you we talked to other folks in that neighborhood you need to tell us what you know you need to tell us where you're where your daughter's at there's no way your dad left there to leave for the rest of his life and left his wallet there and left his money in his wallet and left his car there that's just didn't happen this stuff doesn't make make sense here he will leave your daughter's medication there really I don't remember anything [Music] okay I believe that that text may exist but I don't think it came from today so there's no reason why Cody would be taking your your dad landlord's phone uh I mean look at it sit up which I am sit up okay you guys your dad's missing and your daughter your six-year-old daughter's in the same okay and you guys um go or clean up the house bomb in the house moving cars around taking this truck taking your dog like they don't even exist you know what that tells me that tells me that I've done this job a long time this is not my first case okay that tells me that you know where they're at and you know they're not coming back that's what the text message said that either you or Cody Simpsonville okay so I know all that stuff you said is not true it's impossible so where are they Cheyenne I really don't yes you do but what happened to him I don't know do you agree with me that a lot of stuff you said is not true the detective presses Jesse for the truth but all she has to offer are fake tears and the insistence that she doesn't know you agree with me do you agree with me that a lot of the stuff you told me is not true do you agree with me that the raccoon you pull it out throwing in the and the the weeds right there is not true is that true just let's start with that I pulled it on a raccoon I talked it like that where did it go I heard it hit the woods our trees would you agree with me that's something that's what I hear that's what I thought would you agree is it true that you did not even pull a raccoon out there is that true yeah sit up Cheyenne is that true yes or no is it true that let's just begin that's true that you pull the record yes and you threw it not even that far to get rid of the smell did that get rid of the smell no because it still stinks out there right yeah so you tossing at five feet how is that doing any good you're gonna go through the pain and labor of bending down picking up a raccoon and you're a woman with some talls that you say you got your devs kitchen and throw the raccoon how big were the dogs I didn't use the tongue For the raccoons you told me you did I use that for the rats you told me use the Thomas and raccoons because I said you picked up the raccoons you're banging her hands and you said no I used home from a Dad's Kitchen I use the whole thing to bring it out and then how did you pick it up set up Cheyenne see what I'm saying please can you do that for me what's your story here let's start fresh okay now I'm gonna start a little did you pull out a vacuum from under the house yes and why did you do that but it's done okay and we're just going I just literally I do see where like it I it sounded like it hit the woods but do you remember telling me that you used tunnels to take the raccoon because you said you weren't going to touch it do you remember saying that well why did you say that because it's not true right Cheyenne it's not true see what I'm saying wouldn't it be a lot easier I'm going another one of my mind remembers okay but your mind is not gonna forget to look at me I didn't even know about your mind is not going to forget lately for instance all the stuff you told me about you and Cody's relationship you don't forget that because we love that stuff that's your love on a scale of one in ten you guys have a 10 relationship put on your daughter's scale you have like a fives yeah I've been trying to work on it but she does the same way she wants to work on it clearly um so where is she at she's with my dad where I believe she's probably with your head possibly but where are they at I don't know so I am all I know is that the Texans just say that he was I forget the text messages okay because I'm telling you I did not come from your dad did not come from some guy riding on the road it's not using your dad's phone I would even know your text comfy okay I already know who called you okay if you knock off a leaky because I can account every step that he's with as verified by other means okay so I need to know from you what's not verified well we can't verify is is from use because everything you say you could say whatever you want but if you're telling me that you're saying the truth then I could just tell you that you're not because we have we can prove otherwise so if you're not telling the truth that means you're trying to hide something if you're trying to hide something I would say that makes you look like a bad mother I just want to know where they're at let's just start there I don't care what happened what happened to The Disappearing I want to know let's start where are they at let's just start there I don't know where they are I don't here's what I'm gonna do I'll leave this room for a second we'll detective Clark with you Emily you'll find out if Cody's story matches your story okay they might find out if he's told the truth see what I'm saying once he gives me a whole different story like like he tells us where they're at what because he knows where they're at and you know no we don't yes you do and just thirty thousand dollars what did y'all do with that I didn't do nothing with this money what's that in stores nothing did you go to the bank for real yeah he went there yes okay what did you do at the storage room uh Sergeant is still there and I have my storage units what was the purpose um I went and got a bunch of old clothes that I can't wear no more out of storage yeah slowly get rid of my stuff so when you went there the other day you ain't got your stuff out yeah I donated it will okay because you didn't tell me that earlier you said you went there just to pay on it because you and your dad share Jesse keeps throwing in new details in the hook that it will make her story sound better all it does is add to the long list of inconsistencies share the country right yeah but you didn't tell me that already once again your dad's missing and your six-year-old daughter's missing okay and you're out oh let me take these clothes out of taking a Good Wheel I'm not oh my God where's my six-year-old daughter that doesn't have her medication you see what I'm saying so that leads me to believe again that leaves me to know that you know when they're gonna happen no I don't know where they are yeah and we know when we find them I want you to sit up please can you sit up for me I need to communicate with you okay are you communicate with you you're putting your head down a lot of stuff is not going to help anything it's not going to help you is that going to help you tell the truth I'm trying to remember that's all I remember that's all I was in my head and I remember you don't remember where you're about where your your dad your daughter is I know is that they went to Georgia they did not go to Georgia I know because you said there's blood in the house there is and you know the ones there you know bugs there when you were at the house you knew before the police got there no I didn't yes you did yes you did where are they I don't know all I know I said when I take my medicine I pass out and I don't remember what happens to what happened during the time that I'm last week I I passed out I've been passing out a lot what do I take my medicine you passed out I don't believe that okay you know you never lie you never lie to me one time I'm telling you whatever have you lied to me one time no Cheyenne there is no raccoon okay I know that it was never a raccoon gallon of there and that that's thrown in the woods or by the womens okay so if you're lying about that what else are you learning about you what is it I'm gonna ask you again was there a raccoon dead or not just yes and you picked it up with what I pulled it out with the wrong thing that's what it's called it's got a song on the end of it yeah and you used tongues for it but you said use tones for the for the grants yeah and then you said oh I didn't use the tolerance for the raccoon you see what I'm saying uh it's not hard it's not hard I mean what's what's hard for you is that you're not you're not remembering the lies that you told okay and if if you messed up little stuff you messed up big stuff all right so I'm gonna start again where did you pick the raccoon yes how did you pick them up like tongues then you tell me Tones now because you know you can't pick them up at the pole saw it's impossible the pole saw is not like this it's a salt a long saw it extends out and it has a song it's a long poem so you and I don't know you can't pick up a raccoon with that because the sauce wobbled right do you agree with me that you can't pick it up for the song right so you didn't pick up the song and you didn't take it over the dollars because why I take it over at home the kitchen so was it Thomas or not okay they're like this long you picked up a raccoon with Tom's dad long was it a baby no no I just picked it up by as long as you don't throw it why did you throw the rest of them would you threw them in a trash can really look I know why that the bombs are there I know why the freshers are there it has nothing to do with rotten Mead which you fail to tell me until I asked because I already knew about the red meat story which is just been a lie not for truth um it has nothing those bombs and all that have nothing zero to do with me dead rats in a raccoon you understand me do you understand that we're on the same page and I'm right I know I'm right I know I'm right I'm just going by what I remember so is it possible that's not true then because you're blacked out maybe I don't know this is what I remember okay but where do you remember your dad and your daughter being unless I'm at the house and I want to take Cody out and then my days at work so I was jumbled and everything and I remember doing all that stuff and that's all I remember [Music] you should call the police no I waited you had to get a phone number from somebody from the police station and you've heard the Bible alone have you heard about just tell me you've heard that yeah so why do you call now it's an emergency well yeah but it's like it's an emergency your daughter is gone with your dad disappeared with no medication is that emergency please tell me yes yeah did you take it somewhere you see yeah I just wasn't thank you you were thinking but then I was just I was freaking out like why would he leave he didn't I know he said there's one in the house I mean somebody did something to my daddy okay I don't know who so what happened whenever Jesse wants to sound like a caring daughter she refers to her father as Daddy but the detectives don't buy into the emotional manipulation I don't know I came home to the house and I just went this one is you didn't see you didn't see blood anymore no and them sheets were already there I can promise you you're dead into sheets there well then you did you did thank you if you would have if you just choose to tell the truth don't be a lot easier to tell me the story because you and I saw you know we don't both know that where do I find them and we're even show that you had something to do with their disappearance okay evidence does not lie they have no reason why evidence is not a person tells you one thing and that's the truth that's what's great about it all right but here we have a grieving mother who's lying about where her daughter is so therefore you're not grieving yes you are you and I both know that you're lying no you're not and I want you to set up and look at me please because that's not working all right that this little show is not working your daughter is busy I'll tell you there's blood now she doesn't have her medications and you not one tears falling from your face so don't try to make him come out now well I am crying I just can't if i rehydrated just do you want more water yes well drink that out I'm trying to talk to you I'm telling what I remember but you don't Cody said you blackout before great that's great but that has nothing to do with your daughter and your father doing this okay nothing's zero did you black out when you went to the storage unit yes or no record he asked me what's wrong oh my God what's wrong with you did you black out when you went to the storage unit yes or no yes you black guys why did you tell me that did you black out when you went to the bank no did you black out when you found out your daughter yeah you blacked out that yeah but um what's the matter is that who said that one of the girls what's her name um dude come on what's your name what's your name what's your name Shanique was her name she climbs with me glad I can't pronounce her name is she a uh heavy set black girl with laughing and she asked me are you okay and you said you black out yeah why did she ask you that which I I really got a good job because you found out your garden you got an appointment yeah okay you were in such shock that your daughter ain't got an appointment you say you called your dad one time and won the voicemail and you said you were and you said you're in such shock that you drove past their house that you didn't even stop to find out why your daughter didn't get her appointment that's how shocked you were I'm gonna go right now to find Shaniqua or whatever her name is you wake her up in the middle of the night to ask her if she remembers on Monday I've talked to a bunch of people at work I talked to her I talked to her she asked you if you were okay and I said no I think it's missing yeah you told her that on Monday no you told him so you knew Monday your kid is missing yes you did because you had something to do with it Jesse keeps messing up her timeline and the detective is always quick to point it out Jesse makes feeble attempts to blame the discrepancies on blackouts but it doesn't make her look any less guilty so I'm gonna go find Shaniqua and I'm gonna ask her on Monday did you ask Cheyenne if she was okay for some reason and you know what she's gonna tell me she's going to tell me what are you talking about just like Vicky's told us um I didn't say anything about taxi what are you talking all right a random part what are you talking about we talked to Vicky she told me now she didn't say anything stopped that's what she told me she did not say anything of that that's all I'm asking you to do I'm telling you get out of black out of the storage unit you didn't briefly black out at Lowe's whenever you fell out your dog you know what I know that because you wanted you were concerned about it or he was stuffed in your house your dad's house and said hey whether or not your dad had a good relationship or not you're gonna say hey why didn't y'all go to the doctor did you black it out when you were cleaning the house why don't you cleaning the house well I just wrote I don't want to try than anything and prescribing anything we did all the cleaning my dad those cleaning in the house you're dead just scrubbing the floors and all that your negatives in it yeah he lost his house all the time he scrubs his floors yeah he does foreign [Music] really come on okay come on prove to me you're a half decent mother tell me the truth Cheyenne tell me the truth what happened I'm telling you Siri I don't remember all I know is that I seen the text message she said what is this text message or not I'll tell you you know and I know it did not come to me now if you're that's fine but they're not coming from your dad so some other mystery person had your dad's phone how are they gonna know to text Cody or you specific information they're not going to help oh my dad's phone He's listed underneath Cody Cheyenne shy is Cody okay you're shy I know that's you right yeah I was so straight you're gonna do that how some strength You're Gonna Know Who shy is tell me how some friends are gonna know who shy is they're not right they're not going to know who shy is and they're not going to know the text Shai's Cody some specific information about going to Georgia they're not going to know that right don't you think that's impossible I text him I love you Dad at all the time my control his phone what happened I don't know I don't know I'm telling you serious I don't [ __ ] know I'm gonna curse of you I'm just a man concerned about your daughter and you keep lying about stuff so you have zero conservative on your daughter do you mean look at me be honest if you're concerned about her being honest you're not even crying criminally that you care maybe you're dehydrated but you've been drinking water I don't understand so prove to me that you're halfway decent mother and tell me the truth because this is not going away okay this is not going away we'll be ready let's okay there's Parts in your store there's parts of this whole thing it's not bad now I'll take the blue balls right you're not being truthful you know it and we know but you're not you're not telling the truth the detectives split up to use the classic good cop bad cop technique the second detective takes a slightly softer approach so that Jesse will be more likely to open up you know what I mean here's John because you're not concerned like Let It hear me like he said you're not crying you went to your dad's house on the 22nd because you thought he took your daughter out of state you didn't bother calling the sheriff's office so we can go look for your daughter that means you're not concerned then he went to a storage unit to remove your personal property so you can go sell it or get rid of it or donate every word and again you didn't call the Sheriff's Office and then that weekend you went and hung out with one of your friends for Saturday and Sunday had a good time and hung out never called the Sheriff's Office all right a week goes by you never call the Sheriff's Office you never tell us that you're concerned your dad's gone your daughter's gone you can't get a hold of them now almost another week's gone by and you finally call all right you were so concerned on the first day that he was gone that you went down there in the evening after everybody had worked packed up the dog to make sure the dogs all right but you didn't take any any precautions [Music] that's your question [Music] why did you ask Cody at Walmart if if he thinks about him freaking [ __ ] calendar he didn't ask me did you ask him about maggots no you didn't answer that no he's lying I don't remember he's wrong did you go in the bathroom at the house where the show come from original that's right [Music] there's a shovel outside foreign don't look over there look at me why are you talking about why would you ask Cody okay really I couldn't even make that up wiserable hello sorry why was there a showroom adapter so did you mess with the show last night I'm sure right outside the back door let's do it how'd you notice that that's where daddy keeps all these stuff like I I noticed everything is nothing dude did Cody tell the truth no because I know the answer to this did Cody give you an ultimatum you know what that means did Cody do you know what the alternator means yeah I the other cheeses or this did he give you that about your daughter did he say you need to tighten up with your daughter or else did he tell you that yeah why are you doing that because she didn't tell them we needed to figure out what's wrong with her so he told us that he told you he gave you know ultimatum because he can't deal with it you've never tightened up where he's going right yeah so he told us that you also told us that you ask about the 55 gallon drum Monroe was tired of trying to deal with Meredith and was ready to walk away from the relationship if something wasn't done this sent Jesse into a panic and is the main reason she sent Meredith to stay with her father once Jesse also leaves out is the fact that she was looking up how to put Meredith up for adoption so why would he tells that in life about that why did you ask him that why did you ask him that why did you ask yourself and to the big toe what too thought at Walmart you bought a Toyota one more no I bought well yeah I bought a toy at Walmart but it's for the picture albums and it's a little blue when it's inside the camper okay but I didn't buy that big boy there's a person that's in there you didn't say anything on a Christmas tree because if you did if you were asking about a Christmas tree you would have got it out of stores and you went there did you get it nothing very so they were even worried why would you even asking that it's a storage what we're gonna do with it why did you ask them if a body would fit in the barrel why did you ask me that I don't remember asking about it I don't remember asking him that at all could you have asked him that I don't know probably what's up with the show there was just shovel outside the house or why was it in perspective I don't know did you wash it off no have you ever touched the show yeah how big crap out of the dog's pen with it to clean the peanut where she didn't step in there I know that's it I just wonder why why would someone put a shoveling that time I want to know why the shovels in the bathtub I wonder why the shovel was in the bathtub that I want you to tell me the truth you don't know tell me the truth this is what I remember what do you remember but there's a shovel outside I didn't see I've seen him rust in the bathtub but it's always been nice I didn't see how shoveling no bathtub why was the Chevron have to I haven't seen no shoveling bathtub you asked Cody about a Christmas tree really he didn't tell us about a Christmas tree he said a person a Christmas tree buried in a storage unit July doesn't make any sense nobody pulls a Christmas tree out July no but that has no what's your stuff why did you ask him about a person no Christmas tree you would have told us a Christmas tree why would he say a person why watch a lot of Criminal Minds shows so you guys do that what you asking tell me exactly what he's asking almost even actually what else can you put in that tote like Christmas tree and why did you ask another person Cheyenne this time that's all I remember is all I'm like remember my brain why did you ask about a person Jesse is unable to come up with a good enough lie to satisfy the detectives and once again falls back on the excuse that she is only telling them what she remembers you know you asked about a person because you just said oh we're working on a Criminal Minds why did you ask about a person would it fit until I don't remember yes you do you just don't want to say it why did you ask that I said uncommon lines are they all told in a Christmas tree in it and okay so if you saw a Christmas tree and a toad inside of a toad on a TV show why would you why would you have to ask them as a fit if you already saw it I'll tell by myself for a Christmas tree we're feeling good too and the big coat because it's a big tree where when did you get a turtle I didn't buy it I didn't buy that to her I bought a little small tote that I put the picture albums in which were you talking about putting in there's a good Christmas tree it was a big toe that they I seen at Walmart well you saw them and said hey well a Christmas tree is in there and a person I'm just trying to get an idea I know but tell me exactly what you asked them tell me exactly what you asked them I remember really styled by Christmas tree is all I remember about I don't remember without nobody yeah that's the little person's in there no I don't remember that is he making that up he didn't make up the part that he gave me an alternative he never told us that did you ever tell us that he gave me an alternator or did I have to go find out myself did you tell us that just tell me yesterday that's online okay that's right things I'm trying to remember I'm telling for me to remember this no it's not but I don't know why look at me yeah I remember like some things when I do did it today but he told us that he gave me ultimatum that's true isn't it yes okay she told us that you asked about putting the body in the toe or drum or whatever is that true or is that just just that part of life that's true isn't it no that's not true I don't remember ever saying anything about body and throat did Cody ever see a shovel in the in the tub and tell you about it no I don't want to learn is that something else I'm gonna tell you I don't remember that why was the shovel in the bathroom outside I didn't see no bathtub show why was the shovel ever in the bathtub you no why did you ask Tony without a person being in the table you were saying oh Criminal Minds I said I'm calling language [Music] is that what you're asking we'll probably show the toad had nothing to do with the Christmas tree no I don't remember issues you're just choosing how to tell you I don't remember like you're going to your stores and you take out clothes and also take a Goodwill why did you take a Christmas Tree Hill and it was buried underneath a bunch of boxes um so did you get it to a little longer yeah I bought a little blue tote how things are showing about like 18 gallons to fit the picture albums in that's what's inside of it um good morning I dropped Cody off the work the next job about the tote for the picture frames and some air fresheners for the camper because it sinks too okay the little pop-up ones some air fresheners because the spray the bedroom four bedroom bedroom yeah it doesn't build you yeah sure it's we call it upstairs where did you buy the spray spray ones that are at the house you know that's awesome my job with the red with the uh bombs yeah Jesse's memory makes a miraculous recovery when she lists off the various air fresheners and other supplies she bought the detective is growing tired of her using the excuse of not remembering whenever he asks our question where the answer good incriminator thank you he came in the house and then see the young guys no go ahead and clean them all do you tell them yeah um I had to learn about the vaccine too I didn't see you let go right outside you know what yeah did you see the raccoon you know what are you doing I said I'm getting a raccoon from underneath the house and you know what he said so what were you doing over there you trying to hide something better no what are you gonna tell the truth man challenge there was no shovel in the bathroom it was outside to make relationship what do you saying oh yeah you're trying to make put words in our vowels that we didn't say that's not what's happening okay come in here and asking you questions based on what Matt said we're coaching I told you we're gonna talk to everybody the stories don't match up we know somebody's life right excuse me worship though they're in the house they were sitting here on the living room I'm not even talking to them when I was like who are they talking back yeah it could be true let's go every year we must know that's not true where's America where's your daddy oh my daddy was I don't know listen I don't know we don't know where they are no you do you know just look at me when people are dreams when people are getting upset and they cry they have tears they don't have any so so listen the unpaid storage unit you went shopping for totes and clean supplies and all this other stuff and you went hanging out with your friends and you did all this stuff and we were so concerned that you went to the bank but you never called us it's time just to be true you've been living this way for two years oh Hey listen listen to the last two weeks have sucked pretty bad huh you guys don't know where they are not because you don't know do you live on water you're living a lot okay something for that lady it's time for you to help us find there listen ing I really I don't know on Instagram I don't know a little bit quit holding your face down in your hands okay oh no I've got so much everybody feelings okay no but that's not the case after multiple protestations about knowing where family is the detective confronts Jesse about the fact that she has no tears while she sits there and pretends to cry she's upset but it does not stem from concern about her daughter she is worried that they are going to find out what she has done just tells the truth don't don't say that's all I can remember because that's not you remember exactly what happened you just don't want to say I think it's easier for you to laugh to us than tell us the truth because I think it's difficult for you to say just tell us the truth I know it's hard I know it's gonna be real tough it's a little bit true but I know you want to I don't think you're a bad person yeah I know it's going to be tough to tell me the truth well I've learned again myself for my daddy take care of my daughter because I I can't take care of her no more and defend yourself from your dad a lot of times like my dad used to go like he hit me so hard I couldn't hear in my ear when he kicked on the door when I was little is that what happened yeah honestly that I like my ex-boyfriend could tell you but I don't have his phone number anymore did that when I was 17. did it happen personally defending yourself my dad's always gotten angry at me and yelled and like gets in my face and he punches the wall and stuff and I've always had the coward in a corner to yell at you when you dropped married with him yeah so tell me tell me what happened if you had to defend yourself from your dad since you're a kid I always had like right when he runs away because he's been abusive is that what you said yeah so was he abusive when you dropped Meredith off yes verbal yeah it is verbally in any questions in those things and he said that you're an overall mom for just dropping your kid off and leaving like your mother you're just like your mother you dropped the kid off and you leave her and I'm like now I ask you to take her for me defend yourself or something I always have to defend myself when I'm around my daddy always always yeah you and then every day I talk to my dad I have to defend myself because he's always calling my mother all right he's always getting honestly telling me how worthless I am and everything so what did he say when you dropped Marathon I'll take care of her and don't you worry about it and I'll do this and this and this and a lot of things I just kind of walked into my head did I just my daddy was yelling at me again you know got me all the time even when I'm just like I just get under her hey stop that you're you know I'll order it under her again you're gonna here I wonder like your mother no I'm not a mother I'm not like my mom and I love them and I'm not I'm not freaking lying you're not lying about what anything I don't remember things I have a horrible memory I try to remember if I did like piano with him like my mind just doesn't like remember haven't hit so much like I don't remember things like that I'll be driving down the road and I'll black out and I see now I'm in another Lane and I'm like oh crap Cody loves me what what's wrong with you when I'm driving and be like hey you're going another Lane and it's like it's not bad but like I go into a date because I don't know like I just start I feel so worthless with my dad around he's always calls me that you know it's like threatens to like he said one day I'll I'll find out you can't take care of her and if you ever go to sign her away I'll take her from you and you'll never get her back foreign about everything and then he said oh I was just mad and stuff like that and I'm like but it didn't seem like you were like mad and stuff like my dad's actually like well didn't you tell him that you were thinking about signing your rights over to somebody could take care of her yeah and that's when he said well yeah you're definitely like your mama then if you want to just pass your kid off on somebody else why have you been here you're going over there because I I don't like it being at the house whenever I'm um with Mary's at my house so I leave it with him whether it's like totally away from her my dad but where's that at the trailer she has never mentioned this particular gun but given her rather selective memory the detectives don't seem surprised when I went down here because that guy in talks about rifles yeah I did a thing too like why would you ask why did you ask Tony how long it would take for magnets to be a body I know I remember asking that I don't remember asking that and those of you guys saw the showroom in the tub and you took it out right away when y'all saw it oh I don't remember that there's nobody still it was outside I I don't remember you know what you don't remember which I don't remember things that don't look good so when you when you got this raccoon look at me so I am please when you got this raccoon from one of the house Cody wasn't even there you told him about later right together okay but was Cody there we removed his raccoon or did you just tell him later I don't remember I think he was at the house when I told him about it I don't remember all my stuff that I do I just everything's like my days just run together now I don't I don't sleep at night hardly because I haven't been sleeping any good in the past three months my boss actually asked me what's wrong with you I said tired so sure this isn't going I don't know what happened it's gonna be tough to be honest I know it's okay when my daddy didn't thank me if you plugged out I do because I don't remember parts of times and it's like one time it's one o'clock next time it's like three o'clock it happens a lot it's been happening a lot lately so what happened to your dad I know remember I just remember leaving the house I talked to him and I don't remember just be honest now it's tough I can't remember anything oh yeah it was Sunday was it Saturday yeah could have been another day Saturday because so when you're yelling what happened Beyonce of China actually calls your mom yes I'm not my mom so I graduated high school I don't do drugs I just knew I started giving me it's no wonder that Jesse takes it as a grave insult to be compared to her mother while living with her Jesse was abused and neglected to a horrible extent and could barely walk Social Services eventually removed her from her mother's care and placed her with her father at his house then what happened I don't remember I was young when I was walking out the door you know what happened I know it's tough okay [Music] [Music] right [Music] foreign [Music] law you got the right to talk to a lawyer before and during any questioning if you cannot afford to hire an order one will be appointed to represent you before any question if you wish you decided any time to exercise these rights not answer any questions or make any statements you understand each of your rights you understand that are you comfortable in it still answering questions but you understand your rights yeah okay can I ask you a question to ask your question yes or no it's about Vicky can I ask you a question yeah I'm sorry yeah it's about baking okay you ever stored in your phone yeah okay um you know what's going on with my heart no are you able to read do you read no okay Jesse is torn she clearly doesn't want to answer more questions but knows that it will make her look guilty if she doesn't once she hears that it is about someone else some of her reluctance Fades I want to tell you what she tells tells you on a text message okay um on July 26th sheets ask you hey shy that should die has your dad got home yet you remember those things yeah do you remember what you told her um no you said not yet I talked to one of my family members and he's doing okay up there what does that mean I thought you didn't give I thought no wonder where he lives well I reworded the bird and I go like a while back views up here really I ain't done nothing wrong well you're clearly lying to Vicki for to make her think your dad's in Georgia and everything's okay right no I talked to one of my family members and he's doing okay up there so where is he at Cheyenne where's your dad at yes you do can you please look at me where's your gun where's your daughter with my dad here's what happened you love Cody so much right you want to marry him right yeah is he the love of your life yeah I hope so from America okay this man you do not want to lose right you even said your dad said you finally got a good man right yeah so you're proud of that yeah you don't want to lose them right they threaten you that you're going to lose them if you don't do something about your daughter right no he's he said you better take care of the situation you feel control you couldn't control you couldn't and you're afraid of losing Cody so you took care of him and you're trying to make people think that your dad and your daughter are still alive by telling these fibs oh I have heard from my dad that I call people I call them talk to one of my family members and he's doing okay up there there's no confusion about that that's very clear what's going on okay where is your dad and your daughter what did you do with them I don't know where they are yes you do yes you do did your room gather did he get out of trouble your dad came at you or something you had to defend yourself with your gun is that I can understand that I can understand that I just can't remember but what happened you you remember all these times that your dad comes at you and hits you when we lose you but you don't remember that day you drop your daughter off no I don't remember like it's like they became a different person like I've blacked out and what happened when you blacked out you eventually woke up because you cleaned up so what happened and you may it may have been because your mom your dad came at you when stuff went wrong okay I can understand all that but we still need to find them isn't that important isn't it that important all I want to know for you sharing is where are they you do know I don't remember okay but what happened when you got there did your dad get mad you don't come at you yes okay so what did you do in return you said you have to defend yourself what did you do he got pissed at me and I was on the floor and I don't remember and then you killed him in self-defense did you kill myself defense or did you do it because radio I don't remember yes you do you did it in self-defense right right now he's a grown man can you beat your dad up no okay so you're a girl right just tell me what happened I know so tell me what you had to do tell me what you had to do what did you have to do I don't know I like that one but when you came too what was going on where were you I was in my car and what happened at the house what did you do with your dad what did you take your day is he under the house is he in the woods where's your daughter where did you what did you do did you hide her [Music] your daughter where'd she fly into people always carries she fell into the knife yeah he had a knife with his hand Meredith's death was no accident not only had she been shot in the head but she was stabbed in the back of the neck multiple times that hurt I don't know I don't remember well she fell into it like we're gonna hit her head is a knife in her neck okay I don't remember that I don't remember I just remember I blacked out yeah but then she start screaming you have to remember that I heard you scream yeah okay and what'd you do mommy so did you did you try to get your dad off of her or whatever what did you do next what happened next I don't remember I just remembered that my daddy was on me okay and how did you get him off you did you have to stab them I don't know I just I did something that's all I remember and then sorry but you didn't lie all the way you'll remember some stuff because you remember it your daughter following your dad's nice how was your dad holding the knife they go like this and I was supposed to make a way if you're saying that this is a self-defense issue okay if that's what you're saying okay but just tell me the whole story so I can understand it tell me the whole story and I can understand so I understand if you're seeing a self-defense tell me the whole story that makes sense okay every time I go to my dad's it was even before he could tell you that I always cowardly my dad it's always yelling at me I believe that and Cody did tell me that I believe that I'm always having that movie is a pretty easy to do something for two weeks okay so what happened when you got there he came out did he come at you with a knife yeah and then what did you do I keep them in his balls and he got pissed off rewarded up on the floor and like you were just looking at me where's lucky at this calorie in the kitchen was he in a cage no no you're lucky you can't really hear all that well my daughter stuck her fingers in her ears in it and now she's dead she's dead yeah I got my daughter kept showing her fingers so lucky won't come help me so what you have to do I remember anything that I put it away because my daughter was saying that again he came at me like this with a knife yeah like and I put it in a way like he says I'm push it this way and then my daughter was coming this way and that's all I remember it is you pushing her away but he had an iPhone's head yeah okay and then did you see blood on your daughter Cheyenne [Music] if you're singing self-defense then I I would like to know what will happen okay if you're saying he's attacking you you can do whatever you're doing to save your life that's okay I didn't even know that because I don't believe you black out I'm sorry I had thought on me because hey Jessie is now trying to combine her blackout excuse with self-defense if she had started with this her father's death might have been more believable until forensics were done if I had blood [Music] but if he did it and he did but yeah I know you're scared but we need to find them you thought it changed [Music] yeah he's nice to her about you yeah you're the one that spread your legs for that faster [Music] talking about your daddy and I was just drunk and I didn't well he said you spread your legs for the for uh come here Daddy her daddy okay hey that was drunk that we just had a miscarriage and I gave it to a depression and I didn't bring it I understand what happened I fell and then a couple of months later about it and he was married he was already slapping me around but it was great to have that is me whatever I'm gonna try to read because I can't read because like I can't read under pressure I'm very slow reader my daddy never took this time to teach me it well I believe that actually and I think they're telling some of the truth now what do you send me the water look like let's take deep breaths yeah I need to go get a new one from the Walmart where's your Handler at [Music] right now I Don't Spray no more okay yeah as well oh my I agree out of it for a while as long as I did run too fast I've never tried to use privacy notes hey so what after you're down well you're still in self-defense so I need but I didn't know where you put them or the end of the house I didn't know what to do you're in the show the landlady's house are they in totes or what yes okay how long were they at the house before you put in the toes [Music] hey I need to hear you okay so I understand are they in totes like storage toads yes okay and when you when did you put what did you put them in there that same day uh I don't remember exactly what happened where's your landlady like is it out back yes okay is it locked yes do you got the key to it yes where's the key at oh me right now do I have it please I'm gonna get them out of there okay somebody just gave me the key please is reluctant to give him the keys knowing that once they see the storage unit where she has her father and daughter it will be over for her is in your jacket pocket did you get cut during this where's your key thing yet can you get off me oh I see him Daniel there can you take this off please and show me which key it is are you worried about going to jail for self-defense according to you are you worried about getting your daughter and your dad in the right place I know did you stab your daughter who's telling your daughter who stabs your dad did you stab him in the neck he's dead in the heart where's the knife at I don't know where I did it that way where did the knives come from he took the knife out of your pocket show me what the knife looks like you imagine I don't know what is it a folding knife how long is a blade on it wait that big you stabbing the heart with that yeah how did you get the knife away from them I hit him in nobody with them from the foreign was it it's like it kind of looks like the like this the ball that Marathon like it's just a ball a ball of wood where'd it come from like a piece of furniture yeah where was that I need you to look at me so I can understand where was that at [Music] oh who was there it is apparently he was trying to fix something this is when you're there okay so you bash them the head with the ball yeah okay what what part was this after he took the knife yeah it didn't live in a seven minute ago you killed her you stabbed her down the chest but after you said you killed her where she stopped at I didn't know but where'd you see the blood at on the floor over the place where what room does this happen then let's see you grab your gun yeah after you stabbed them you think I'm gonna kill you two [ __ ] what does that what was your guy at yeah it was underneath the couch you're pissed him yeah did he show you I pushed it down and he farted on his neck he shot his knife yeah so you step in the heart of the other piece you pushed the gun was he sitting down no he later he fell on the couch when they put in the mall with me the couch was Rosie part I call it couch he was he was on a loveseat have the blood get on the couch fell okay um did you put the sheets there where'd you put the shoes there was it later on yeah well I know you freaked out but when did you put him on there so yeah my grandmother really talking about babies Sean you don't have to look at me if you don't want to but I need you to uncover your pants so I could hear you okay can you please do that for me you can keep looking down but you gotta move your hands I can't hear you I want to make sure I understand everything you're saying okay yeah so what what hand did your dad have the gun at you left-handed well it was how we can reach underneath with the left hand and it was underneath the cushion of the couch the couch itself because I love she is right here he's gonna eat the couch and then he's like oh [ __ ] that's where I put the gun while grasping at straws Jesse seems to forget that they will be able to use forensics to determine whether or not her story is true are you where's all my knees can you show me um can you show me exactly on the floor and you get on your knees I don't even understand the Cheyenne can you show me exactly what he did and lean over and I pulled it then he and then I can't hear you I need you to move your arms please he's laying on the couch right look at me Cheyenne he's laying on the couch right and you're right here on your knees almost like he's this way okay so he's on the couch let's see if the couch is right here but the couch is right here so where are you at right here right here can you leave can you stand up you don't have to get underneath but can you stand up exactly where you were well did you stand down please so he reaches little he reaches down underneath the couch and grabs the Devils his left hand [Music] I need you to show me exactly what he did this is very important no you get up did you get up please it's very important it doesn't it didn't feel like that they're coming off here yes okay did that kill him no don't even put it anymore like like that and then fired a couple more hours [Music] laying on the couch is she dead he didn't hear anything from her I don't know because it's your dad's chest yeah is the knife still there no no let me ask you this does Cody have anything to do with this no he don't well how did you get them over there by yourself come on why don't you get him over there did you put in the car window oh they're still anticipating no how did you lift them up there by yourself so if you bring it this year yeah how did you get him up in the truck and they smiled them sorry we didn't know that was in there oh it hurts when you when you had the Suburban backed up to the house did anybody show up at the house that day [Music] I don't remember how did you get them up into the Suburban you just take them up no I just lit it it slid so you had the back doors open up to the porch or something and they slid right in yeah then how'd you lift them out of the Suburban into the uh I put Meredith down first and I just laid daddy down on top he's on top of hers yes I just got scared I didn't know what to do really supporters I'm not telling you I'm going to tell them that I just need to make sure they don't know about this no sir Cody has nothing to do with this well what's up with a shovel that was in the that you took out of the bathtub I was trying to clean up the blood then it was freaking out and I just I figured him you were freaking out and you tried following the blood yeah I was a shovel what'd you use that for did show up the crowd that they left there oh crap when the Bayou dies it releases the feces and ring of water and stuff and it was a couple of days and I freaked out I left that day and then I went back oh you read that online yeah no I didn't read it online it's just something that I see it on Criminal Minds okay but you actually saw that for real because they're dead Jesse talks about how she tried to clean the scene which may be the first true thing she has said during the entire interview and did you do did you clean up with that show up after you put them in the containers yeah okay and where did you put all that stuff at in the containers with them or did you throw it on the yard or under the house [Music] is anything out of the house like the knife no it was just put it dripped out through the pool and it was cracked in the floor so what were you going under the house for over there now just trying to bury the blood or something I was just curious if anything wasn't down there and I did see animals a bit animals and he already died and we're just pretty good there we go here's my daughter I didn't know what to do [Music] okay do you recall what day this was yeah was it the day you dropped This Is The Day You Dropped Meredith off there or was it another day I dropped her off there this all happened this all happened in one day if one time was it the morning or the evening it was dark so it's knocked out morning or dark out evening do you recall yeah I went back there to talk with him about her and then he told me I better come in the fact that he didn't know for him so I just I didn't realize that he was gonna attack me I said she didn't know anything weird this morning I can't hear you you don't even thinking here in the morning realize that he was so that was on Saturday yeah what day did you go back everybody [Music] with you how did so how did uh anymore because thank you so much times where I've went down to my ear for weeks so how did Cody get hit the text messages [Music] I can't hear you how do you Cody get the text messages how many text messages was it more than one where it is do you remember what song you used to send them or fun the nature there's Metro phone hey your dad's did you keep it with you or did you leave it at the house deleted new messages I didn't do that I didn't know who didn't break down I think they're new ones [Music] is the furniture in the house now the same position it was before table in the carpet wasn't there they removed now like was the carpet there before where was the carpet before so is there a lot of uh is there was there blood on the floor and you covered it with the carpets that what happened I don't know anything foreign consistent with what the autopsy later discovered Jesse's father had been shot in the head three times and stabbed in the back and neck multiple times you said it was your knife how did you get your knife out of your pocket well these hands don't keep my gun turns like anything else but sit down it falls out so where are you sitting down yes where were you sitting he knocked me on the floor you know I'm doing your floor and then I just popped out of your pocket yeah yeah try to protect me or something wrong you just took her it's been like I was just dealing with her today it's just you're upset about something and he does have cancer he's a good thing that you he says you need to die I'm already dying he told you that yes did he have any intentions of actually leaving and going to Georgia he talked about it he really did discussed it yeah the place in Georgetown okay you freaked down what you put your hands back in here [Music] thank you protect myself just have you told anybody else what you've done no no when you went back to the house it was there was there anything on the door or on the porch there is a letter a letter about that he that one of the landlady sweaters for her your dad told you positive sport yeah so did you actually deposit that check yes sir where'd you deposit it the Wells Fargo and Amy took me there because I don't know how to deposit jokes I've never done it before Wells Fargo where in Plant City downtown and your friend Amy Tokyo yeah and that's the one that was in the Marines yeah and she doesn't know anything about this at all either you didn't tell her no so if we go talk to her she's not going to say you mentioned anything you ask her any questions okay shouldn't have anything to do with this thing are you sure you need to go to the bank and she took you to Wells Fargo yeah so my dad's not here in my own lady needed to just check deposits and I don't know how to deposit it was that before or after this happened after give me more day did you continue talking to the landlady did you tell her anything about what happened no how'd you explain why would she ask you to deposit check them she didn't ask you if you'd call law enforcement or anything like that seriously those called family and stuff and she said well I need money so he's like I'm gonna pick her up from the airport did she actually uh did you ever actually call any family in Georgia yes sir I did who was you call Jesse may very well have called family even with as many mistakes as she has made she knows she would have to express some type of concern to someone um using my contacts that I had working numbers for I only started with my aunt I I don't know I just it just started to one big thing and I just I didn't know how to stop it I didn't really need you I just I just freaked out and I just can't live with me but he attacked me and I just can't live with I just haven't heard anything he attacked you with a knife but he never cut you no so in in the struggle over this knife never cut your hands or your forearms or anything like that feeling better I don't see your cuts barely grazed my arm remember cat scratched me over it I healed quickly but that right there was on the knife so the day when you had the which vehicle did you use to to move the toads the one that belongs to the landlady yes [Music] you say you did you back it up did anybody show up that day anybody talk to you and ask you what you were doing um they wonder if he was here or Josh did who's that Josh what did Josh say to you yeah I didn't know who it was that easier I didn't know it was just me did he ask you what you're doing uh [Music] we talked about his baby asked him how she was doing he says well let your dad gets back in town then he told me that the house was stinking he told you that yeah yeah go ahead so I was already stuck did anybody else shook that day thank you showed up over at my lady's house Vicky did yeah was the truck still at your dad's house where was it was 20 guys not the truck I'm in the Suburban oh it was over there the main lady's house what did Vicky ask you if I see my dad or heard from him if I don't know I don't know I'm calling people like this we know I just freaked out I don't I didn't I didn't know I just freaked out I'm just scared him back he's not hurt me she wasn't talking to me they're good hey baby [Music] amazing foreign [Music] you're being paid so much they're slow sometimes so if this was all done on self-defense why didn't why didn't you tell anybody Sheriff's Office and let us know what happened [Music] so what'd you do with your knot we needed thank you numeral color it is my black it's black this is a straight blade knife or else a razor knife is uh one that you can punch out the windows or if you have a car wreck and cut seat bows a safety knife with one safety uh right now the last Pepsi boat save your life kind of nice if you go into the water did you have it with you after you left the house that night every time they bring up an important piece of information Jesse claims that she doesn't remember at this point anytime she doesn't remember something is a good indication that they are close to the truth is but it punched me and my head right here so you got blood on your shirt what part my breasts and my belly pants without any on your pants yeah that's in some on the floor what did you do with those clothes I you got rid of them where do you drive I I threw them in a bag and I don't remember where I threw that I had to do it somewhere but I can't find it at my dad's house so I don't know where I do it did you throw them at your house [Music] what about it's right on the side of the road or did you throw it in the house in the trash the landlady tiles I I honestly you'll remember so that night when you left did you wear those clothes away when you drove home so when you went outside and you said you went outside and realized yeah then what'd you do I grabbed Facebook one so you took your clothes off and put some of your father's clothes on yes but you didn't take your clothes with you I believe I don't know where it is like a regular trash bag or a grocery bag or whatever you're rolling my dad anymore what'd you do with your gun I they really need to see them in my car is it in your car now no where's that now is that home at your the fifth wheel yeah where where in the physical coding those hilarious [Music] festivals [Music] what kind of gun do you have a P22 semi-automatic yeah foreign when you were going back to the house you said you cleaned up is that right yeah [Music] Brown shellfish the day you were the day you asked uh Cody uh little body fit in the toes did you buy it the other day you bought the toads where did you buy them at the next day or what no I I had my dad already had food at the house okay so you're just asking them if you thought about him fitting there [Music] okay forget about the day do you remember asking that [Music] remember asking him about how long it takes magazine your body though didn't you Jesse tries to avoid answering the question and when pushed her voice is weak when she says she can't remember asking Monroe about maggots [Music] the gun the gun that was under the couch is that the gun that's in your trailer now yes what kind of gun was it yeah [Music] do you have a two weapons permit disgusting no sir I was just going to get one because I was scared from my life a lot of times when I went over to my dad's house Cody doesn't think that you're leading the gun at your dad's house because you told him one time was an envelope department is that true that was when it was when we went to the shooting range okay but I'm talking about here this last week no it was at your dad's house it whenever they before I left Meriden with him I had it in my low department and then when I came back I didn't want it to be anywhere near me when I had her with me so I left it with my dad and you don't you don't remember the knife is in right now did you throw in Weeds or anything I don't know what I'd be able to do you think it's still starting your dad's chest is that possible or did you take it out um I think I think it take it out I don't think it's in a church I don't know I didn't really look at them how um was your daughter laying on the couch the whole time without them she was scared then she ran towards me the other Mommy does your life have a click on it the night that you had that's the one that you got from Cody Cody went and bought a new one right but he said the one that you were carrying was his and he gave it to you and then he went and got another one yeah okay is that the knife yeah it does have a clip on it pocket yeah like as it has like a like a hook on it like this cell phone thing does yeah and how what how would your dad get it away from him he's still in Hot Pocket when I fell in the ground because he hit me it fell on your pocket when he attacked me I fell down the ground and it falls out into my pants they fall out of my pants where they fall on the floor have you picked it up yeah and then tell me how your daughter got stabbed with it he came at me and I pushed it in it was this way and she was running this way I I walked over my head but somebody else will be showing I don't believe that's the way I think you I think you stabbed your daughter no okay you stabbed your daughter because you wanted to get whatever to save your relationship no I didn't also killed your dad on purpose there's no self-defense there well no I did yes oh yes that's what happened no that ain't what happened because when you find your daughter for night if her neck is lies all the way open she don't you don't just run into a knife and that happens so did you kill her because she was interrupting your relationship no sir I did not you know no I did not I didn't get there if your daddy dude you did yeah my dad attacked me what's the first thing you did to push it down yes how did you fall like did he push you how did he push you show me how you pushed both hands yeah can you demonstrate that for me so I understand because if you want me to believe that story I want to see how it happened so I'm gonna pretend I'm you you don't have to really push me on the ground please right but you still with me got any questions you want to code hard like that you fall back like this gonna go down like this on the ground and it slides out and then he's over top of me and then is he straddling you yeah okay I kick him in the balls and the pieces them all where's he sitting on your body right here in my abdomen okay so how did you kick it in the balls so when your daughter got stabbed he was sitting on you well my dad went like this and she was running towards him to try to get him off of me Jesse is describing would be a stressful experience fueled by adrenaline and people often have fuzzy memories of those situations somehow even with her supposed memory problems she is able to walk them through it almost step by step that was in the floor in front of the coucher loveseat all right between there or your feet towards which direction do you see which towards the the Lefty and your head was which direction towards the kitchen and he's right on you yeah but he's thrilling you know he gets he knows how do you get it back I'm not gonna sweat on you but like say he had in his lifetime just slow and and then because he liked this I went like that and then I went like this okay so you push that away oh and then how'd you get the knife the knife's still here yeah and then I caught like that that kind of hurt me like that and then I I learned how he opened the night okay karate like where'd you learn this from um fully taught me self-defense to protect myself and I went to it great shot them yeah show me again don't really do it yeah I want to make that really hard and then and he's his wrists are sensitive and I got the knife out of his hand and he's still struggling you yeah and then he comes at me again punch in the face okay your dad's tough guy right yeah let's see wait right put your hand let's see other stuff okay um so if you used to have him in the chest if it how does he get on the couch I push them and then he gets up he's like and he falls back onto the couch okay Meanwhile your daughter is lying on the yeah your daughter's lying on the couch like all over the couch like by the sheet all the way on the couch no so is her knees are on the floor yes okay and well he married to the 1900 government like those underneath there I'm trying to draw that gun he has this like it doesn't like push it or anything because it doesn't hurt like that after right good and I just like I break down and then he is I just pulled it again and he just lick his fingers just stayed on the trigger there wasn't that many bullets in the in there so when you go you took the gun obviously away from him did you say your house so you took the gun at that point where'd you put it like in your pocket or I wrapped it up and I covered it and I grabbed them a lot the um banana that my daughter had a banana banana peel banana oh bandana I'm sorry and where's that Bandit underneath my car I need to record like outside oh the seat your driver's seat what color is it red okay then so did you do that before um and then you took the knife out of the chest yeah and then she put that in your car too no I don't really want to deal with that I don't remember at what at what point did you give firsthand to your daughter I went over there and then once you know my Roger or Nate talked backwards what did you see it was horrible blood coming out of everywhere well what was the injury at can you pointed on my neck it was straight through that all the way back from the back it's cut like this no it's like just stab all the way through it went through her neck I threw her jugular okay so when you did that was Bloods coming out yeah and did you like try to cover it yeah I kind of covered it and I'm like married and I thought the life the ladder hurt I'm like no man did you have yourself going with you no did you with your dad cell phone was there did you go to the neighbors and call 911 no sir did you try to call 9-1-1 no I freaked out did you try to put pressure on it yeah let's try to do CPR yeah well how did you see if you are holding that clothes because and I push over a chest with my hand and nothing was working because I couldn't hold both at the same time [Music] what clothes were you wearing jeans and a t-shirt where those are I don't know I don't know what I'd do with them you don't know close no I don't I don't know why I put everybody to can't freak out that day come on imagine yourself so we're just taking how to make last night [Music] a little even a class and the little there's a little model of things where Alexander is a mole he's a little closet a little strip Plaza yeah what else is in the closet uh people Brian leaves and nail salon and stuff Beef O'Brady's yeah yeah and it was an MMA place called is it called MMA yeah training or something I don't remember exactly okay so how long did you go there just a couple sessions yeah [Music] you know it was a mixed martial arts his dad does yeah yeah he's teaching when he was a kid I was just trying to defend myself you see your dad real strong and how tall was your bed he's shorter than me looking heavy weights and stuff like Motors and stuff all this life and somebody strong as an ox he's strong but I I remember the pressure points that he told me to hit someone was attacking him my daddy did he taught me that so what pressure points did you have right here did you have your dad yeah well because you didn't show me that yeah like this well don't take him in the chin you hit the pressure point here yeah there's a pressure point there was a gold I don't remember what it's called right it's row yeah like a little pressure point I remember he told me to hit the nose pressure point that's that's just somebody okay that is a thing right here on another there's a pressure point on your arms and stuff I don't remember did you do all those pressure points I did I hit everything I was hitting everything with his body to try to I don't know how it happened is if he's sitting on this part of your body see how do you kick it in the balls you can kick it in the butt this part my body what the house too how do you think of the balls I leaned over um yeah and you how's your name involves all right they're getting lost no man I'm sick more and everything and everything's just like going all crazy wait just right here it's lit out like they're here why do you think he was trying to kill you hi uh no what we're going to start beating up what happened what happened I started that yeah well I'm just trying help and that not only do her movements not match up consistently but if her father taught her fighting moves it is more likely he would be able to counteract them as well as have the size and weight Advantage the intensity of the fight doesn't make sense why would he go into a murderous rage if he was supposedly looking forward to spending time with Meredith regardless of why Jesse was leaving her I said you're just being an [ __ ] and then next thing you know he says you know what I'm [ __ ] tired of your [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] tired of everything in this [ __ ] house I'm fixing to die anyways and you don't give a damn I was like I do give a damn one you know you're just too busy with your life no I'm not too busy with my life I don't have the word you gotta support my childhood pay the bills and stuff like you told me you do as an adult and I said [ __ ] you and that's been that's all I remember you can say I believe what we do know is that one question I have is there's a in the couch of those teachers like slash marks that are functional or something because it was basically pristine couch and loveseat how'd that happen I can cut it bring those like dogwood on here I don't know I just I I didn't want to look at the couch anymore so after they were gone I didn't have a 33 stabbing mix now juice because I was pissed off but he'd try to hurt me and I just was one knife I was just a little kitchen knife that's in the kitchen right now where's that in the kitchen yes by the seat that's where I left it this is how thin is how how wise it would not that wide you can't just look well because of the blade that the slash marks in there are bigger than that so it wasn't the same knife I think they were stabbing on the couch I think that you I mean I would be awesome I don't believe your story I think that you wanted to get rid of your daughter no sir I did not want to get rid of my daughter's machine save your relationship because you never told us anything about your dad being aggressive towards you until uh you said utility right I'm good huh my dad was a graduate to me he's been addressing to me a lot go ahead but that's never happened you murdered your daughter no I didn't he was on top of me and I thought of you because I was trying to get away from him that story doesn't make any sense and we used to make a sound so I had to be honest with like you're like a karate master Sean here's the issue if this man that grown man he's strong as you say listen Motors and stuff he's on top of you and he's building a knife you're not taking it from him you're going to have some cuts on them there's no way with a couple martial mixed martial arts classes that you took it away so put your hands down for me for a second there's no way that happened yes it is you're telling me a grown man was only punch you in the face with a knife and you got no cuts no lacerations no marks it doesn't make sense it doesn't add up there's no way there okay no way with just a couple classes you know how to de-arm someone with a knife and then not be able to cut you so how did it really play out why were you angry I'm sure he was he was being rude with you or saying stuff to you or being mean to you but I don't believe he got on top of you with a knife I don't believe that happened evidence suggests otherwise you happened I've seen training videos I've been a part of training where people wield knives if somebody's building a knife you're gonna have defensive wounds if you're trying to protect yourself you have nothing you have no marks which would indicate you were defending yourself to read just when Jesse thought she had figured out a way to explain her actions the detectives let her know that they don't believe this story either there's no way there's not there's just no way not from a man that can live by you said Motors yes you say it's a strong man he punch you in the face we had a knife he was attacking you with it if you don't have any knife attack marks you don't have any more nobody's indicated they saw you that week you saw Vicky you saw was Josh you want to live on the property you saw Cody so Cody Stanley nobody's in the kid you ever had a moments she complained we had bruises on your face rear forearms with your hands nobody said that so evidence suggests that that's not true that's what happened that's what happened that's what honestly thought happened yes it did he did it doesn't make sense what show would you say you guys watch all the time never mind because I ain't all done so Criminal Minds and CSI and all that stuff you watch does that make sense to you that this would happen so I might have a knife on top of somebody else and they'd have no defensive moves on their forearms your hands I know karate a little bit from watching dogs it didn't happen yes you do you don't watch karate movies and all of a sudden become a karate expert it don't happen yeah I I know what I know that's what I did in my arms were flaring around so how how many seven ones does your dad going to have I don't remember I just remember I just got it wrong hey he didn't say you're not from your partner yeah I do heaven I'm talking yes he did not try to hurt him yes he did when you're telling the truth about completely different way or not oh yeah true you're absolutely I know anyway I know oh set it for him look at me please so tell me what really happened I'm really good that's what happened how can that happen you said there was you said that the uh the coffee table was there how does all that happen you didn't fall on the coffee tip there's no way that Meredith could have ran all the way up to you guys if you're on the other side of the coffee table so there's no way it could have happened you can't lay on the floor of her run across the room with a coffee table in the middle of that room there's no way coffee table's not broke as if you fell on it so tell me what happened because that didn't happen nothing happened there's or Cheyenne look at me it's not what happened Cheyenne look up look let's get to the bottom that's what happened it just couldn't have happened that's right could have happened that way so tell me how it really happened [Music] show me myself I'm not saying you're gonna attack you I'm not saying it in the future so I'm saying he didn't push him on the ground he didn't get on top of you and take your knife and try to slash you with it and you didn't do any karate moves to take it away from him because if you'd done that the odds of you not having any marks on you at all especially when you say punch your face the lack of wounds on Jesse has a second meaning her father didn't even have a chance to fight back I wanted to remind you once again my new merch shop is up strangerlabel.com is full of relatable designs like the unstable and the mentally checked out t-shirts as well as other cool items like the All-Seeing beanie and the stranger socks every purchase helps support this Channel and you can even write me a short message on the purchase page I'll be reading every single message that comes with any order big or small so I head to strangerlabel.com and get whatever you want well that's it let's get back into the case there's no way that happened you've talked to too many people this week Vicky Josh and Cody and Cody Stanley all these people and you've gone to work nobody else reported you have any injuries of bruises I can't punched in the face so what really happened um we push me down and get on top of me you got a dog for me and he let me hear me here my legs around trying to get out from underneath them but you never have the knife medicine he grabbed the knife yeah you got tonight grab the knife tell me the truth and tell me how this happened because listen there's no way you fell in the middle of the floor because there's a coffee table there okay that's number one number two if he's sitting on you you can't kick him the way you said you kicked him all right number three if there's a coffee table in the in the middle of the floor there's no way that Meredith ran over you guys the way you said she could there's no way those things happen the way that living room set up and you said it was set up the same way that bad other than that card there's no way it happened and you said your feet were towards the love seat and your head was away that's the same way with the coffee table's run yeah so she'd come run and jump over the coffee table yeah no she can't run Mommy Mommy so she come running jumped on the coffee table jumped over the coffee table we were like right next to it like going at each other's trying to protect myself tell me how it really happened because this didn't happen that's what I remember you said listen look at me or shine you said she put he pushed in the on this side of your face and now you're saying you [ __ ] you on that side then you said you had a knife which hand you have a knife in if he's poaching on both sides of the head no [Music] no that happened you know that happened well he had a knife in his hand so he's holding knife and punches you no then that one yes I understand I punched him right here and he had this listen look at me no matter how many times you say that it's still not believe the truth and it came at me and I hit him or doesn't oh somebody just wanted to hurt you that bad and they're much bigger than you and they're on top of you didn't happen you just said he's punching on both sides of the head yeah no [Music] question the head how do you know what he did there's you got too many details of you exactly knowing exactly how everything's happening when you're getting punched in the head on both sides with two Fists even though the detective walks her through the reasons why her story can't be true Jesse will not budge she is not going to take responsibility for the murders clearly of which didn't have knives and punch with such force that you didn't have any marks set up sure no matter how many times you took that it's still not true that ain't how it happened didn't happen now so tell me how it really how this incident really attacking me standing up or sitting down or on the floor unfortunately have any questions we've done to the ground wait then he's on top of me no no that's wherever you lose I kicked Adam I'm standing up on the ground on the ground I kicked at him but he never got down on top of me yeah he did he did [Music] he hit me I remember I fell in the head I thought it was in my head I felt it in my head right here I had a feeling okay shut up you weren't you weren't just protecting yourself because Meredith Meredith didn't do anything to you and there's and he didn't stab her no based on that basis he didn't do it there's no way this happened the way you're saying the way the living room's laid out I have all the evidence just tell me the truth [Music] perfect look at me none of that yes it did didn't happen I'm not saying he didn't hit you but he wasn't on top with a knife that's not how Meredith gots down that's not how it happened there's no way she didn't run across the room jump over a table and come fly to you guys it didn't happen remember it's a monkey Mommy Mommy Grandpa's coming Mommy said yes [Music] [Music] looking well you were telling me the truth you were generally upset you're crying you you got any tears and just because we're back to square one when you when you were lying to me no this isn't the truth [Music] Jesse would probably prefer this to be the truth rather than having to face the reality that she chose to kill her father and daughter for her own selfish reasons foreign [Music] [Music] so all right give me just a second [Music] in July 2019 a jury recommended the death sentence for the murder of Meredith while they vetoed ten to two for a life sentence or Weekly's murder in 2021 Jesse was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole the court bailiff who was standing close to Jesse as she was being sentenced later said Jesse was trying to tell the judge she did not commit the murders and that's where we end this video if you liked today's video then drop a line and if you want to 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