I went downstairs and his face was covered in blood do you know what they were hitting him with a gun the desperate search for a husband and father I think you know exactly who did this and I think you're scared T County 911 what's your emergency I have a home invasion my niece is tied up oh she's tied up she is tied up and dead I am untying her I can't get the what is the victim's name uh Samantha wford what's starts out as a terrifying home invasion turns into something else entirely in the first half of the case we watched as Samantha Walford try to convince the police that she and her husband were the victims of a home invasion in this video we will see how the facade of victim crumbles to reveal the coldblooded murderer under the surface we're going to get you all the water and coffee you need all the coffe breaks you need but but this is a very very serious matter so this I don't want to we don't want to have Place do anything and you don't either no so go ahead found I want to do whatever I can possible to have him found okay what I want you to do don't don't ride don't ride on the back of these don't skip lines but ride as neat as you can and I don't care if we're here another two hours remember this is very important this is your life this is his life you're talking about so we don't need go ahead and start from the beginning on what happened don't you write it down tonight and then go ahead and put in there I don't care about what we talked about and and put these guys how you know them how you met them how you know Jeremy why you think Jeremy M could have been possibly the one now if you don't know that he did it then don't put it in there he did it just put it in there if they had mask but the build was the same as is there was yeah the same and there was previous right I need in detail be I want you to be a woman now you know how women are y'all very detailed y'all ask all these questions and stuff my my wife wife is when she ask something she'll ask me 15 million questions because I want you to be a female and I want you to be very detailed and you're going to have to have you may need more than this I doubt it but just don't don't go past the lines when you get through with one page just start on the next and and then we'll just keep this number okay we're going to start right here we're going to start right here with page one and we we can do those names in here at the very end or something we just do a separate one this is going to be page one and we don't know how many pages you're going to have so just keep order and you fill this one up flip it over and help you will fill all this out the back that um well let's just make this one p one that's okay but what we want to do is if you mess up on your spelling you want to respell something don't scroll big lines through it what I want you to do is Mark one line through it initial and then rewrite and then when you get down at the bottom here don't go past that line and don't go outside the line don't turn around going back go to your next page and this will be page two next one you guys like to kill a lot of trees yeah but hey it's for your benefit okay like I said I will cooperate however I you are I agree you are 100% you've believe it or not without even knowing it you've helped us hugely by calling these names because I don't think me personally I don't think it's anybody after his daddy or money at all the detective does not believe that iar was attacked as some sort of retaliation against his father this story is weak and the details don't make sense I think that was just a story story right well I'm just giving what happened okay well you're going to be here a little bit so take your time if you need use bathroom let us know you go back in there we'll get you more coffee or water whatever you want [Applause] okay hey uh there is one of way that we can make absolutely sure and clear you uh we can give you poph test okay would you take a photograph okay I'm actually see if I can't get in here this morning do what years you got come back uh if you can pass that polygraph they ain't no way the da ever trying to find charges even think the finger at you it just a't no way that that would absolutely clear you no matter guys come back this is not true a polygraph might give a strong indication about whether or not a person is telling the truth but it is not 100% conclusive and passing it will not prevent a suspect from further investigation because I have a feeling that it's going to be one of these guys here this Jeremy that did this well like I said my husband told me that he's the one to came and picked his car up which initially pointed the finger at him breaking into my house and doing foring worth of damage I have contacted the police multiple times and told them that it's my record so you would have a problem in photograph this morning would you mind me speaking to my mother before I completely agreed to that um well but now if you have nothing to have why would you want to talk to your M because it's something against you personally but just cops in general you hear such negative things and how they are not out to help you and CPS is the same way and I just kind of want to get my mom and dad's opinion on if it's in my best interest don't have anything to hide and I personally don't have a problem doing that but I don't want to do something that's going to end up biting me in the ass in the end either I kind of want my parents well you know what you know what I think I think it's not going to be long I going be locking your butt up what I think I think you've been lying to me this whole thing you did get right I think you're a liar what I think I think you know exactly who did this and I don't buy your freaking story for a minute that's what I I think so I tell you what Let's do let's just get on with it let's just get it on honey cuz you sit here and you've been lying since the minute I've come in here first you didn't have any boyfriends oh you don't talk to the guys you love your husband and then you panic when I tell you we got you phone going F then all a sudden you start coming up these freaking numbers on they're not my boyfriends they're not something I would consider my boyfriends mhm yeah I've had women come over my house all the time with me and my wife and they're just friends it don't happen Samantha you that that's why I say I've tried to really be honest with you and I feel that you have done nothing sitting here this whole time if uh I'm going to tell you right now DPS is dang good them if you get nothing to hide and what bothers me is you even hesitate to take that knowing that would positively clear you or positively show that you're having some I don't know anything about a polygraph test I hear from some people that they are faulty and I hear from some people that they're accurate as the day is long I tell you what um you ain't got to take one but I'm GNA tell you right now what fix can get on with it because I I'm I'm G to stick by my heart hunch I still don't say you did this you did not kill that boy I think this boy's going to be dead and I think that you know what exactly who did it and I think when we find him and we solve this I think you're probably going to end up being in probably a lot of trouble not because of anything other than what you've the the the lies you're going to be telling us I just think I just and I hate it for you say because you've got kids but I'm gonna tell you something um you've I just I just think that you've dug yourself a hole and like I say right now you're not under arrest and you're you're not a suspect still but when we find him when we solve this thing and then the people that we arrest on this I think they're going to point the finger at you and then their story is going to match with the evidence and then that's going to come back and cause of the8 issue Warr for you and then you're going to spend rest of your life in prison because these kind of things you don't get bothered out it's not like Rich for though this is a whole different deal whole different deal done anything but no but here's the thing Sam here's the thing Sam you but but the thing is I I still say and the proof's going to be in the pudding that you know more than you're telling us I think you know exactly who did this I think the story is made up about about the your daddy his daddy and and and stuff like that now hitting him and beating him that might have happened CU there is blood in that house I promise you that that story is true but no but I'm saying I think you know I think you know exactly who did this and I think you're scared and and that's what I'm trying to beit into your head don't let fear keep keep you from telling the truth because just if you knew if you knew these guys that did it you know why they did it does not make you guilty but what's going to make you guilty is when we prove that you laughed Us in here but if that is the case then I I do know who did it and why they did it okay doesn't that make me like an accomplice nope it sure don't no that makes you a scared mother with children that's exactly what that makes you the only other thing okay see I knew you know you know Sam you know I'm not here lying to you you know I know the only other thing I know I don't even know if I know okay but it's a suspicion okay I've been up at the hospital with my friend Charlotte okay and she's got a GU there and I swear to God cannot go up there that I said any of this okay because they have a lot of friends around here in my life will be a as soon as she realizes they are closing in on the truth Walford decides to change up her story and blame it on being in fear for her life it's a line the detectives have heard numerous times before but the tediousness is worth it to find more weak points in walford's statement I recently released another highly intense video on my patreon an explosive altercation between two cops where tension escalated so quickly resulting in a drawn gun and a devastating gunshot in a mere 26 seconds witness the events unfold as two officers engage in a fight that turns deadly watch this video and more at patreon.com stranger stories plus okay but the only other thing I know is vinting to her and talking to her about problems like I just told you I have a problem talking to my friends about our problem I don't have many of them so when I do get with one of my friends I want to talk about any problems we might have had in Hest lately it hasn't been many okay and we have had problems with the p and I hadn't seen Charlotte in a long time okay come with it and she's got this guy in the room with her and he gets talking about how a man shouldn't treat a woman that way and how you don't do those things to a person and he's going to deal with the situation I didn't take him seriously okay you see Sam you know who did this but that does not make proof that he did I just have what he said okay what who is this guy his name is John John who his Facebook is Rebel John Rebel his John uh I don't truly know his last name but his Facebook says John Rebel um he's got a brother named Greg he's got a really bad history as far as who's Greg I was told he's an informant I don't know Greg's last name where John live I don't know um I know he's been been staying with Charlotte Charlotte who Charlotte Kamp for Morris or she's also gone by multiple last names she just had a baby Charlotte Morris charlot s h a c spell her name for s h a r l a s h a r l a Charla her Facebook says camp but at the hospital she was registered under Morris o r r i s where she live at I've never to her house but John has been staying with Charlotte and they said Lone Star course she's here in town at the hospital and I left my car up there so that she had a way she said her house is let me tell you something Sam say you know you know in your heart and I know you know who did this you know who this guy was when he come in here tonight you know who he was no I honestly that does not make you guilty but this is the thing don't you look at the hole that you've already dug yourself in okay don't you look at look at this this whole thing you have lied to us and you knew this the whole time you've been sitting here in line whole time been in here that's not good the thing but that's the thing I don't know anything I just have that that's why you don't want take that polygraph and I knew I knew taking it I don't truly know if that is the case but that it did happen all a sudden we going from Jeremy and David all of a sudden to this guyy and David are but what what this guy say what this guy say he's going to do handle the situation when did he when did he tell you this yesterday where at at the hospital okay I want you to write that down in big detail because now from here on out you could become a suspect you're not yet but I'm going to tell you that da is going to be looking at this he's going to be looking close at this Samantha you've done lying I don't want to see you be P for your kid for your life I hope you don't think I'm lying this is a game cuz this is not the kind of thing you bind out on this is the kind of thing that da gives you a no bind on and you go straight to prison I put it on my kids' life I have not done anything well but I didn't have it done and I did not do anything okay but here's the thing you know in your heart that this guy did and if you're me a polygraph test will clear me of that but you I'll take Charlotte but you know there may not be any reason to take one now because you're being honest with me for the first time I Charla was not in the room she was but she was out when he said this when me and her had been discussing it and everything what else did he say did he tell you he's going to come after there and kill him no he did not and I swear to God that is the truth that's why I not said that yet no he his Facebook is John Rebel the Charlotte moris is up the hospital now what room is she in 218 um and she's there now she should be she was last night so if he did who do you think he bring with him I don't know any of his friends but yesterday at the hospital he had a guy that I do know from town with him his name is Tay who tay rymes tay tay he's black hey R he's a black whale yes okay he hit him with him where's he from I didn't say he had yes he had him at the hospital with him I cannot guarantee that these are the right people but you know what you know in your heart Sam you know you know you know this guy did it you know he did it and and and here's the thing but why unless got serious psychological issues why what did you say what did you say when he said he going to take care of that problem I just laughed at him I thought he was joking so now all of a sudden why you bringing him out cuz you know that it was him why do you know it was him because of his prison record and because I don't know I just have this feeling like it was I don't you think he was the one in the room that was beat you probably okay you be detailed you start writing the truth Stanford will be brought in for questioning and he will turn on Walford almost immediately so I can keep you out of prison okay because I can promise you this guy when we go snatch him up there was another person there who was there but I don't know I swear to God I don't know I know that he has a lot of people he calls his brother and I only know you think they come over there and did this just simply because he was mean to you I don't know or was our bad dope deal was our dope deal I don't know I don't know honest to God I don't know but you in your heart I know that my husband has had a lot of time but in your heart you think this is him yes you you you're you're positive he did it I'm not positive I can't be positive because I didn't see any faces well but then what makes you think it was him just by the way he said it even though I laughed him off he sat back with this no in your house make you think this was him why you was in your house because the Hy and there was a guy built like Jeremy there there was that is the truth that is the truth da is skinny skinny skinny tall and skinny he's got a very bad record there was a tall skinny guy there John Rebel yes you don't know his name no joh Sheil told me his last name Char Morris knows him though yes okay he lives with her we'll find him you get to rap we'll find him please don't let this come back on me I don't want I'm going to tell you right now the only way we can guarantee tell you that if you can point your finger and know he did so we can go arrest him and we won't let him out of jail and he can't come get you I don't want anybody to come in well then you better start because they did to make it clear that if I go the police they would kill my kid okay was the truth I put that in the statement that is the truth so they plan to kill him then I really hope not Sam they did make him tell me not to call the police okay why they tell you call the police what was going on for them to tell you not to call the police they were beating the hell out of him and they had me tied up and then is the is to go truth and they was telling you not to call the police they were telling my husband to tell me not to call the police who they'd come back and kill my kids yes they were leaning in there's too L for they already call police yes I did that shouldn't hurt you from telling the giving these names come on I have a problem writing this I don't have but please don't let me Sam you're doing good right now right now is the first time really scared right now is the first time believe you why my kids's life be in danger because of this the only way we can keep your kids out of danger if you be honest and give us these guys and tell us where because I think your husband's dead okay why do you think they come over and guide I don't know I really don't this Sam this is a very very serious thing we're doing here I'm being very serious I don't know okay what so but see already here I mean what does this look like you come in here with these big stories and all of a sudden you give us this name this is going to be the guy that did it everything that happened in the house is the truth all of that really did happen did they do something to let you know that there was them inside that house not a th% particular but I'm pretty sure it was him the height and the the weight and the way he was talking on gangster you pull yourself together and get to writing and we need to rest these folks and keep them off the street where they can't hurt you and your children there was a third person with them okay who do you think it was he's got people that's staying with him got Rebel yeah he's got this listen You' got to let me know Sam because we a search in his house we can go andun a search we can get the search warant and we can get the EV the hospital this what makes me think it was broke when they in the hospital did before uhuh before this happened in my house yes Tay was with him there was another guy I don't know his name but he pretty much fits the build of the third guy there was three people yes at the house there was three people and at the hospital yesterday you can look at the cameras there was three people so they have them on the video camera there at the hospital at the hospital yes there was K and that guy and this third party and you know in your heart you know in your heart they did this though you you know they I think there was more being there I think you're still scared I think there's still something else you probably not telling me that promise you I am being completely honest 100% I I put that on everything I'm telling you everything I know I really do not know the third party name he's the one that scares me the most okay he has this very violent look to him and he scares me more than any of them I'm still not certain that they're doing this just because he's mean to you I think there's more that happened here there may be but you know that you know what what kind of business does your husband have with these guys I don't know I really don't I really don't I'm being honest okay you get to um the reason the one that I said was basically like the ring leader that was bling everybody around the other two really didn't talk much other than a word here and there but it was the big guy the the third party that was at the hospital okay and he's the one I don't know his name and I can't tell you where to find him because I don't know him I've only seen him once but he was with Tay and John at the hospital Charlotte needed a ride home Charlotte doesn't know anything at all about John's um saying that to me or anything Walford may be hoping that she can place the blame squarely on her accomplices but it is too late for that to work their stories will match with the forensics and each man will confirm that this had all been walford's idea okay that is the TR you think Charlotte tell us who her boyfriend is he's not her boyfriend but I know he told me his last name okay I really can't remember okay but I spent a bit of time at the hospital with Tay and John just talking and hanging out because Tay is the father of one of my friends's kids so we have I have known him he's from Mount pleas I believe John Rebel that's what he on his Facebook can you get to John's Facebook for me yeah if you bring me my phone I can show it to you yes okay Chris hear yeah it's going to be she's coming clean now Char [ __ ] Hospital be a guy she knows seeing her on his Facebook John re he got a friend name a third person she said can you come in here let look at Facebook so we find who this guy is she's uh she's finally coming clean I knew she's L us and she's scared and this is the only thing that's going to save your dead gun butt these guys coming back to get you you're going be honest that third guy is we need the gun we need that gun and he was the bigger guy was the one that kept beating him in the face over and over he said you know why I'm doing this and I don't say anything about his daddy yes he did yes he did I don't know if he you show us his Facebook show us his Facebook I don't know if he really knows Deon and his daugh if that was just something he was saying to get me to repeat but he really was saying that that really is the truth I really did that statement I wrote is really the truth okay but listen we're wasting time out that I might know them we've got to get this guy we've got to get him now I just left out that I might know them is the only I left out everything else I've said is the truth okay Sam you knew they did this in the very beginning and you wouldn't telling us you knew in your heart you trying to put me on a goose chase and I figured it out and I knew it with this with this these other two guys this Jeremy that is a possibility still but those are the ones that I really feel are the ones that kidnapped it know they told you going to do it didn't they didn't they tell no they did not just come out and say that they were but with and yet that picture there that's kind of what the face thing they more look like they're black all him he's a white boy okay but that thing he wore over his face with that that's kind of what it look look at him and all of his tattoos are prising and that's why you think all these guys going to be together when we find them at John's house I know that John is probably the hospital with Charlotte who is this here John I don't know his last name he told me it and I can't remember I promise you can't remember but I'm trying my best to help you I really am we're going interview these people later we got to get the hospital and interview these guys and get to a charl Mor find out who this guy is find out where he's where he's at Charlotte was complaining about not having a ride home from the hospital cuz her mom took her truck and she baby I don't know sometime today and I told her that I would let her use my car so he drove me home and he dropped me off and he's still in my car so he knew where I lived he still got it Ma he should have he was supposed to use my card has he called you or sent you any messages no I don't even have his phone number you check right quick make sure show me that you don't have any kind of contact phone calls voicea Tay texted and said hey they're about to discharge Charlotte from the hospital how John up here T is one of the ones that I said would probably be that's T so he's at the hospital with John this is his Tay RS yes who is he he is a friend of mine kids's dad I don't really know him other than that I've never spent any time with him other than yesterday ever and that's honest to God truth and John I've only known for two days and I don't know if my husband has been dealing and this was just their way of trying to figure out where he lived by getting to me I I don't know I told you I'm I'm 1,00% being honest he's got a lot of time that just doesn't match up on his schedule I really did think it was just that he was cheating on me and now I'm just not so sure with all this going on now I just don't know but John I don't have his number what about on Facebook I haven't even checked I was just trying to get his picture so you guys could see him but that's a bad picture I don't know if you scrolled through what about Tay is black what kind of car do you have that's going to be at the hospital it's a silver Equinox 2005 your car is at the hospital yeah um Charlotte didn't have a red home okay and so did you to give me permission to take your car from them people yes you've got my permission he has my keys he's got my house keys oh my God is this my fault oh my God you think they dumped him off out there behind your house I don't know did you did you see them not even on the see did you ever see put in car no I didn't they really did have me tied up upstairs but I just know put two you together they didn't wake us up until they grabbed me in the bed and I gave him my key aler continues to wail and SOB but there are still no tears cuz they had the keys to your house that's how they were able to get in without because needed to ride home and I told him to take her home so the door wouldn't kicked in I don't yes not to wake us up no if they kicked in the door before it didn't wake me up but out of the blue I'm being jerked out of bed and it nothing woke me up to tip me off that someone was jerking me out of bed okay well so obviously they knew where you live they your car because he took they took you home okay so they knew where you were at okay they knew that they know you were I guess upset or having problems with with with Junior right okay were you crying on her shoulder and tell all the problems you having no me and Charlotte were talking at the hospital and he's hpit with Charlotte so he was listening to what y'all were saying because she was having problems with her kids's dad that she just had the baby and I was comparing situations like there's been times this has happened to me too John Ru and or John Rebel and uh T were there they were there in the room they were sitting at the back of the room talking to each other and me and her were talking to each other so they heard about all the problems you were having with j and then Charlotte was whining and complaining that she didn't have a way home and she didn't know how she was going to get her baby home and I was like H you've got my car if if you have to who took you home if you Tay Tay drove you home Tay no um John drove and Tay rode with so they both knew where I lived and I didn't even think hey here's the just the key to the car I need the rest of my keys so they knew where you so they had my whole key ring they had keys to your house they had everything they needed to come into your house they had my whole once we get these guys in custody they going to tell us that they did this before because you told them or asked them to do it I did not ask them to do anything did they tell you that they were going to come over and take care of him no they did not John when after he Charlotte calmed down and finally fell asleep he was telling me how thankful he was that I finally calmed her down after how upset she was by the father of her kids stopping by and I said hey it's what I'm here for I need to find that help before they to get rid of some evidence we need to find out where he lives where all these guys are standing going be Stand Together aren't they all three of them um I don't know about the third party I've never seen him before Taye and John are both together at the hospital with Charlotte because Taye just texted my phone saying Charlotte's fixing to be discharged we got to get up there quick but um and her name's Charla Morris but she has a password to where you can't get in because she's had problems with the father of her kids which is how all this stuff got brought up with me and um that's how all this stuff got brought up with me because of all the problems she's had and I'm like you know what don't let everybody get you down because guess what we've had our problems too but look where we're at we're still fighting and we're still together and we're still every day something some new obstacle pops up that we get past but we're still together and it's possible it may be the hardest thing you ever have to go through but you can get through it and so we're just sitting there talking and she finally calms down and goes to sleep and he's telling me what an angel I am for getting her to calm down and go to sleep and how she done nothing but cry and then he tells me you don't need to be going through with that either and I was like it is what it is that's life you take a few punches you give a few punches that's just life and he said yeah if I was around I'd handle that situation for you and I just laughed at him I thought he was kidding but then that night like yesterday afternoon he drove me home to drop me off so that they had the car there for Charlotte when she's being discharged today what she in 218 you call the hospital and tell him do not discharge hert can I see my son smoke we we LIF your prince in the house do they have gloves on or they use their hands they had gloves on I'm not guaranteeing they all did but yes [Music] so you're almost positive it was [Music] now of let's say we're in the court and I'm a jury how you going too because I sh never thinking about it he my keys had my key on it never thinking about it just this match up he already had said I'll Dole it I didn't people say Stu like that all the time I didn't think it was I okay come on back in here so they ever come right out and say they're going to kill him no they didn't and like I was just telling him as many hours of a day as there is that my husband is not home it's possible that it is a drug deal come wrong and they played me into the right pocket to be able to originally Sanford and the others were going to plant meth in iar's truck and report him to the police find out where he lives Samantha you know exactly what it is WR and this still does not make me guilty no I swear to God I don't know but you've done swear to God to me on four of the things and I've done proven you my husband has gets off at 3:30 makes it home between 5 and 6:00 and tells me that he's said Hastings other than that you think a drug deal what would you think would he ow a money probably because he can't if it's drugs I'm the one paying all the bills I'm the there's no secret your husband sells drugs his dad yes he does but I think he's probably helped so this is probably where come in did he owe money I don't know I honest to God do not know I have never I made it clear to my husband if I ever caught a whiff of anything like that my house around my kids he'd be out quicker than daylight and I'd knock on anyone that I around him Che but yes his dad is a no she says Lone Star but she's also told me Dangerfield somewhere between danger and lar I've never been to her house well that guy in that picture looks like a prison he just got out in July what was he in on he told me that he did a lot of fighting in I don't know what exactly he went on on he told me that he's actually been in three times but only two of them counted cuz one was consecutive how long has he been out he said he got out in like July I don't know I only have known him two days and it's just been up there at the hospital chitchatting with Charlotte and stuff that I've learned anything about him I really don't know this guy yes I know that my father-in-law deals yes I know that he has probably conned his son when he didn't have a vehicle person you know his name is Greg Greg no no no no no no no no Greg was John's brother that's how you definitely know you have the right person Greg no I was told Greg's an informant they the only thing I know about the heavy said dude is they called him JoJo but they told me that wasn't his name they said they I believe they said it was Jose but I don't know anything about the other guy at all they just I'm hoping if they just took him out bat the crap out of him he's still alive he is very scary looking guy the third guy but you don't know who he is no you don't know his name no they called him they kept calling him Jojo and I asked John what his name was and he said Jose but that's all I know about that guy that's all I know that and he is scary looking so I go in and say there's a black Mel there with John I can go in there and say hey there's John there's Taye where's Jojo and they're gonna know exactly who I'm talking about that's what they called him JoJo yes that's what everybody calls him is Jojo and he live as the last I was told from that group is that he didn't have a house he was camping in a tent at Tay's house because Jojo and his woman were up there and they were fighting really bad and I asked what their story was because I had never met them I didn't know them and they were like oh they're always this bad and I saidwell what's going on is he cheating is she cheating is it drugs and they said a little of all of the above I said well who is that that's my brother that's JoJo what's his real name why because JoJo is not his real name Jose he looks kind of familiar to me where does he live I just don't like that going on around me and not knowing anything about the person and he said well right now he's just camping out of t there's two white guys in there right now who are they gonna be two white guys I don't know um it's possible that the father showed up again and his name is Randall if it's a skinny tall white guy that's John and he has not left her side John's covered in tabs right yes was kindy that's JoJo joj JoJo's the third party that was the guy that was beating the [ __ ] out of him if if like I said they have masks but I'm pretty sure that and JoJo was the one that kept hitting him in the face over and over saying you know why this is happening this uh talking about his dad he was the one that kept hitting and kept hitting and kept hitting and kept hitting him so while left alone walart almost amuses herself by writing messages on the board it comes across as attention seeking for for for for for St say one I was going to have you do is look at some evidence here all right and the case number is going to be s151 029 and today's date is February 23rd 2015 time's going to be 1:00 and what I'm going to do this yes we have to record any time we speak with a witness or someone involved in a case we have to record everything what I'm going to do is what I'm going to do is open up these packages here and let you look at them U and see if you recognize any of these um just second grab some gloves just don't don't touch anything there [Music] it's p you Dr oh I I also had a few questions as well things of course rumors around questions about things this look familiar does this whose cell phone is this ernestly your h yes okay when is the last time you saw this phone when he plugged it in got to bed that night he plugged it in beside his bed and that was Thursday night the night of break at your residence yes sir and you're for sure this is his phone 1,0% sure I just bought him that phone two weeks ago I've got two other items here we can look at see if these items look the phone I ever back or is it that is his that is his box knife yes I'm for sure he carried one if he lost one he bought another exactly identical to it he kept one on his jeans at all point in time what makes you since since you said he bought several of them them what makes you surprised that this is his it's the exact color and type he always bought and kept on his pants and at the and did he have one on him Thursday did you actually see it yes it was on his pants um he clipped it to the pocket of his pants as for usual and I I I know it's his that look familiar to what what type of a knife that he would carry what he used it at work at Little Caesars to open boxes and he liked them so much that he just kept it as his everyday pocket knife now did he get this from work or he no he bought it at Walmart he bought it at Walmart put your positive that's that's itas I have a third lookn those ke these are earnestly bar yes sir Keys yes sir can you identify what these keys go to a god this this I bought it for him 3 weeks ago so this goes to that goes to the the white Dodge truck driveway the one in my driveway and two of the other keys are my house keys what about these Keys here they go to a set of locks for a uh the Locking set luggage the little walks on the luggage when you travel what about these Keys here you recogniz they went to his mother's house two of the keys went to to this key here went to our house and the blue key went to his mother's house what about this little key here that little key I bought a locking say uh lock set to lock a toolbox and it came with four padlocks in it and I gave him two and I kept two and I gave him one of the keys this key here goes to goes my house so you're positive these are the keys that were on 100% yes they are my husband keys to his vehicle in our home Sanford and the others didn't make much of an effort to hide iar's belongings this may have been at least in part because they were under the influence of the substance they had planned to plant in iar's truck all right all right these keys right here that you identified as belonging to your husband they were found on Jose P's person okay when when we talked to him thir or Friday when he was uh detained Friday to talk to him about this situation these keys were on his person okay I know that they made one of the guys go tear my room apart looking for the keys to his vehicle so I thought that when I couldn't find them in the yard or in the truck or in the house I thought that they might have left with them and I was hoping that they had been able to be retrieved now this phone here cell phone that we got here was also taken off of Jose Pon okay this was found in his possession also okay and this knife here we got this was found in Jonathan Sanford's possession okay the the guy that had that knife is the one that cut the hair off that you found at my house did he use that knife yes he used that knife that's how I knew that he they had taken his knife off of him because that's what they used to cut his hair off and they he didn't have them on his pants anymore so his no I have to keep them for evidence right now what I'm going to need you to do for me is to write me a witness statement saying that you look at these items and you posi identify these items as belonging to your husband [Applause] has my car been search yes it has um that'll have to be held for a little longer for evidence purposes my car uh there was but I won't be able to kind of go into the details okay can you tell me is it going to be clean before I get it back have for sure get you to do just like we did before we get you to U write your name your address fill out all this information here on top for me and what I need you to do is to for me that you look at these you know that you identified the keys cell phone and the knife that I showed you as as items that were that belong to your husband they were in his possession he was taken okay do that for me and go get your written statement from the other day why do you need to get my written statement cuz need you to sign it you didn't sign it uh there did you get the list of things that I was supposed to I'll get that I'll get that before you leave thank you well becomes surprisingly calm when she forgets she's being watched all of her attention is on her phone although it is too late for any type of damage control uh Friday when we were going over your statement um when you told us that you three men came into your house correct um that you believe the three men or that you were positive the three men to be JoJo or Jose pon John J sord also John Rebel on Facebook um and the third one man that came to the house to be Octavius RS also know know that I just also T okay but you feel like Tay is the third person that was in the house okay just mainly because they were all together at the hospital and voicewise after I was able to realize the other two were yeah I'm almost I'm almost positive he was here's a copy of the search warrant return from when we did the search one at your house other night these are a list of the items that were taken from your house um I can tell you what's inside these boxes that that would help we'll get that just um what I need to do um is to get the person identified that you know as Tay or OCT Rhymes the what I'm going to do is show you what's called a photo line up okay okay I can tell you exactly okay well okay let me let me read you the photo lineup instructions first before I'll let you look at the line okay all right in a moment I'm going to show you a series of photos the person who committed the crime may or may not be included I do not know whether the person being investigated is included in this photo line the investigation will continue whether or not you make an identification even if you identify someone during this procedure I will continue to show you all the photos in the series keep in mind that things like hairstyles beards and mustaches can be easily changed and that complexion colors may look slightly different in photographs you should not feel that you have to make an identification it is important to exclude innocent persons as it is to identify the perpetrator the photos will be shown to you one at a time take as much time as you need to look at each one after each photo I will ask you is this the person that you saw at your house the night your husband was taken okay take your time answering the questions if you answer yes I will then ask you in your own words can you describe to me how certain you are okay percentage wise can you tell me I'm sorry just finish because you're involved in an ongoing investigation in order to prevent damaging the investigation you should avoid discussing this identification procedure or its results do you understand the way the photo procedure will be conducted in the other instructions that mford is going to be asked to identify the men from a photo lineup she is already given up their names so this step is mainly a formality yes turn we'll discuss that in a minute yes sir okay all right what I've got I've got six photos I'm going to show you okay now each folder is marked with a number on top of it okay and what I'm going to do is I'm going to slide each folder to you you can open it up and look at it and is it just one photo or is there more than just one photo one photo per per photo okay so you look at number photo number one photo number one it's not photo number one and photo number one is not what that's not the person not the person that you know is Tay the one that I know is Tay that is not okay what you look photo number two no that is not t number two is not t photo number two is not no not the person you know is T okay and this is going to be photo number three photo number three is Tay okay on scale scale how what percentage wise do you feel like Photo number three is person 100% that's Tay that's 100% that's okay I wasn't sure with just being a photo like this I how easy it would be for me to tell you who it was but okay like I said in the photo line I'm going to show you all six photos yes sir this is photo number four photo number four is not Tay that's not the person you know is T no sir okay and photo number five photo number five is not t and photo number six photo number six is not t you believe photo number three out of the six photos you looked at you believe photo number three photo number three the man that I was in uh to be known as t Rise it's photo number three and is this the man that was in your house yes Jose Pon and Jonathan San yes he was he was the third man that was involved in taking your husband from yes you're positive I'm positive what I want you to do here this is the again the photo lineup instructions that I just read to you okay and I'll go for them again s you're being asked to view group of photographs okay the fact that you're sh that you're shown the fact they're shown to you should not influence in your judgment okay you should you should not conclude or guess of the photographs containing the picture of the person or person who committed the offense okay you're not under any obligation to identify anyone so do you guys do that give people a bunch pictures and none of them is the suspect and you ask them to identify well what if we're looking for a person that we feel like may or may not be involved in the photo that's we want to make sure that the person that's involved in the crime if you're able to look through a photo lineup and identify the person that was involved in that okay okay it is just as important to infree innocent persons from suspicion as to identify the guilty parties okay do not be influenced by the fact persons in the photographs may have mustaches beards long hair different hair colors okay do not discuss the case or witness with other Witnesses and indicate in any way that you have or have not identified someone okay now I will tell you this T did not lay his hands on my husband in my home he was the one that stood there and held a knife to my throat he did not hit him he's not he did not as far as I see help do any form of loading him yet yes he was involved obviously he was in my home he shouldn't have been rymes may have been the least involved physically but in the eye of the law he is no less guilty rymes was in contact with Walford about disposing of the evidence but other than that that's all I can tell you about it signatures that you understand then at the bottom says you've been shown a group of six photographs which are numbered one through six for the purpose of identifying a person or persons involved in a criminal offense in Titus County Texas that occur on or about the 18th February 2015 okay so the time of death made it the the okay so you identified photo number three correct correct that's the person you know is T ravus RS signature right there saying that's the person that you know to be is Octavius yes it is have you spoken I haven't spok to some of the other investigators involved in this you didn't have enough I on to make on your statement here that you had made I know discussing stat the day when you identified the three men you coming in your house JoJo Jose Pon Jonathan Sanford and Tay ryes you're positive those are the three men yes house 100% positive and then on tap because he didn't speak much at the time I wasn't a million and 1% sure but as much as he's told the mother of his children I'm 100% sure yes well I know when when we come up here to the office at night when we left your house obviously we got the call that you know something had happened there at your house and deputies arrived on the scene and investigators were called out to the scene because your husband was missing from your house okay once we arrived there on the scene look things over and talk to you obviously you were brought up here and visited with me for a couple of hours going over your statement as to what happened there before your husband was taken from the house okay and as you recall during that time during those several hours we were here at first you didn't tell me the truth about you knowing who the gentlemen were or who these guys were that came into your house took off with thurning correct okay and then later you were able to come back and tell me that you know it's Joe Joe or Jose Pon John Sanford and the guy you know is Tay is the three guys that came into your house and took took Ernie away from the house okay correct now the night that this happened um I know you told me that you were this was Thursday night prior going into early th early Friday morning last week okay um you were at the hospital at Thursday night correct is that right yes sir now you were up there visiting Char Morris Morris 28 wford repeats her story but it doesn't deviate from what she has said before now when do you remember about what time it was when you left the hospital kind of guest as far as time frame five six seven five or six I guess I don't know now did you have anyone with you when you were up at the hospital all of my children all of your children all five of with you now you were making arrangements to leave your my vehicle your vehicle there because she didn't have a way to get home okay it's a Chevy equin silver and color yes sir yes sir and when you had made arrangements to leave your vehicle there for Charlotte to be able to take her and her newborn baby home on Friday is that right yes okay now when you were leaving the hospital going back to your house correct yes you and your five kids yes who also went with you to your house T it was John and Tay Tay wanted to ride with us okay so John Sanford or you know was John on Facebook Jonathan Sanford and Tay or Octavius RS yes you and your five children yes left the hospital go to your house yes okay once you got there at your house who was there at your house when you got home when I got home my husband was upstairs in the house he had already laid down um he hadn't slept well the night before he went to bed extremely early told me not to stress or worry about when he called me told me not to stress or worry about times that I got home that he feed himself it wasn't a big deal and so they took all the car seats out of my car and put them on the front porch just to make sure they'd have room to transport somebody that had just had surgery in an infant and I took all my kids inside I do not come in my home at that point they put them on the front porch went back to the car got the car car seats out put them on the front porch and left I then took the children upstairs put them in the room with a snack and something to drink for them to go to bed and turned around and my husband was awake and we spent a few hours together before he went back to sleep and then I went back to sleep so when you got home was it still light outside or was it dark the the porch light was on it was dark outside but you don't remember exactly kind of what time for no I know that we did stop at Walmart so that I could pull some money out of the bank because I just would Forest bank and then John walked around Walmart looking for prices on something Walford her children and Sanford were caught shopping together on security footage from Walmart and I ran into a friend of mine there um actually T the mother of T's children her sister Samantha and her husband Casey I talked to them for a little while in Walmart and then I left there so I don't even know how long I was in Walmart but it was already dark when we went outside so you withdrew money from your your card there in Walmart yes $60 what was $60 just because I didn't have any cash on me and I have prepaid Electric System and I had gotten gas so it locks $75 when I'm [ __ ] and use the gas pumps so I didn't want to take any chances on when I went to put money on my Electric System on if it would say that I didn't have available funds and then I have to drive back into town my uh gas card is in Mount Veron my gas company prepaid Electric System is in Mount Veron so I have to drive to mount Veron and my bank is not in Mount Veron so I withdrew $60 off of my card and took and had in cash so that I would make sure I had some money to put on the electric in case my credit card 72 hour did did lock for 72 hours so y'all were at Walmart then once you do that then where do you go from Walmart home go to your house yes so when you take kids into the house take the car seats out yes and then John and Tay left said they were going back to the hospital to be with Charlotte and at that point you go into the house get the kids taken care of and you find your husband's awake and that's when you spend some time with him before going to bed yes okay so you never left the house no after that point no so when you were laying in bed after afterwards once you remember about what time it was that you went to bed lay down when I got home he was awake um he asked me if I had a decent time and how things were going with Charlotte because she had already had CPS stopped at the hospital and she was very scared and so he was understanding about me just spending a lot of time up at the hospital with her and so we talked a little bit about that and decided we were going to go to bed we then did didn't go to bed and ended up having sex went and rinsed off in the shower together got back in bed and we have an app on our cell phone we play it's in his cell phone you can check to verify that we played that for a little bit and I looked up and it was 12:01 and I then was freaking out and told him we had to go to bed because he had to be up at work be up to be at work at 5: so I took a sleeping pill and I laid down and went sleep and after that you lay down and go to sleep what happens after that I was laying in bed and somebody jerked the blankets off of me which woke me up and jerked me out of bed with a knife to my throat pushed me down on the carpet with a knife in my spine told me not to move and started tying my hands behind my back and gagging me there was a lot of commotion going on my husband was fighting with two other guys at that point in time I'm not there could have been three it was very dark and there was a lot of chaos going on and I was terrified um they started hitting him in the face and got him down and was able to tie him they drag me to the other side of the upstairs and drag him down into the living room Walford recites the event as if she is speaking from a carefully memorized script which turns out to be the case once I got downstairs got HIIT here yelling and him being hit and then a guy in the living room yelled Luke bring her down and so they brought me down into the living room that I was standing right outside of the kitchen kind of sort of in the living room but not th% in the living room just kind of in the in between right in the perfect view and they told him to look at me he wouldn't look at me he looked down or over at the fireplace and just would not look at me I could see Cuts in the top of his head his face was covered in blood and they then started threatening him saying harm would come to me if you didn't look at me and I hit him again then he finally looked up at me and uh the person that had the knife to my throat started cutting my clothes off and cut my sh off and threw it to the side and the person that was hitting him in the face JoJo told him him that isn't she pretty isn't your wife beautiful and he would notd and he said you want her to stay that way don't you you don't want you don't want us to do anything bad to her do you [Music] and said no then they continued hitting him in the face and saying you can thank your dad for this you can thank your your dad for this he took one of ours so we're taking one of his you can thank your dad for this they pulled me in closer to him where I was kneeling down in front of him face to face with him and he was covered in blood and he asked about our children if they were okay and they hit him in the face again and said don't ever accuse me of hurting kids how dare you dude I'm not sure at that point something flew out of his mouth I don't know if it was blood or tooth I don't know but it flew out of his mouth and he said what can I do what can I do what do you want they said what do you have he said all I have is my truck you can help my truck take it it's yours and they said can you come up with $2,000 for the next 5 minutes and he said no he laughed and they hit him in the face again and he said no and they said then there's nothing you can do and one of the men cut a piece of my husband's hair off using his knife and threw it to the side kind of towards me and said this is all you're ever going to have of him this is all you're going to have left of him when we're finished and I went into hysterics I started hysterically balling around the cou that was in my mouth and JoJo said get her the hell out of here and they took and load him up so told the other guy the one that cut his hair to load him up and uh the person that was had the knif to my throat took me towards the upstairs and said man' this isn't me this isn't me and Unbound my hands and told me to get a shirt on and I started looking for a shirt in the laundry area and and he kept going hurry up hurry up hurry up man hurry the [ __ ] up and pushing the knif deeper like harder against my throat not enough to cut me but just enough to make it clear that he was serious there were no marks on walford's body that were consistent with her story at the very least there should have been some discoloration and I found just random shirt and put on and he retied my hands and he took me upstairs and he slammed me down on the ground and he tied my ankles together and told me don't move if you know what is good for you I they had asked for his phone and they went searched rumaging and going through stuff to find his phone and they asked me if it they couldn't find the other one because when they pulled me out of the bed it fell off the bed it SL to the edge of the bed and they asked if there was another phone and I told him no that we just had the one and they went ahead and just took his phone and left and and so I wiggled and I squirmed and I shift it across the upstairs until I got my phone using my teeth and I went back like squirmed and wiggled and pushed myself back to where they had left me well then I heard somebody downstairs sounded like they were coming up the stairs so I pushed it to the side I tossed it using my face and tried covering it up with a piece of weatherization plastic that we had sitting to the side upstairs and they came he came back in and he checked my hands and my binding around my mouth and my ankles and rumag through some things upstairs digging through drawers and just generally making a mess and looking through stuff and then he went back downstairs and I didn't hear any sound for a little while so I went back over to where I gotten the phone and I used my face to open the cover on the phone and push it around until I could get the the screen come on and using my face I my chin and my nose and whatever I could think to turn the phone on and get it to the dialer I was able to use just push around on the dialer until it made a phone call and it was it happened to be to my mom and she kept saying she kept saying I can't understand you I can't understand you and I was like Mom there's someone in the house still please hurry I need you now and she said what and I said I can't understand you honey I know you need me I'm on my way but what there's someone in the house and then she freaks out and had my dad she kept me on the phone and my dad called my aunt who immediately came over lived eight Liv like eight miles away and they called the police and got the police other their way and they came immediately over and searched the area and untied me and then the police showed up and I de with the police from there what's your name Ginger kerson Ginger kerson yes sir and S the phone call that you made was to was to your mother to Rosie Wolford that was the only phone call that you made yes now when we were down here at the office we did you call anybody post anything anything while we were here I know you had your phone still for a while yes no um they asked for deon's phone number I believe yes they asked for deon's phone number and it's a weird number from this area so I didn't know that number so I had to look it up because I can never remember the last four digits he hasn't had that number very long and so I had to look it up and it did dial out to his phone when I did that and I hit in really quick so that it didn't call the number but I trying to get that number for them yes the uh that was only phone calls that you made okay the of course obviously you know we've got the guys in we got Jojo and C we got JoJo Jose Antonio Pon and John Jonathan Sanford got both of them in custody yes for the kidnapping and also killing your husband okay now while we had them in custody you know obviously we want to talk to them and ask them why why what was their reasoning for coming to your house and taking her out of your house and taking him over into Camp County and ultimately taking his life as to what what the reasoning was why this happened okay now talking with both of them their reasoning is they did this at your request at my request I don't even know them so you have no idea who these gentlemen are no I only met them at the hospital in charlott's rof I didn't even how long have you known Tay he's the mother of my friend's kid so I hadn't seen Tay in 8 years years and I barely knew him back then walart barely had any connection with the men and they had little to no reason to take such a risk for her you had no idea these guys were for any reason why they would want to come over there and do this to you no I do not well I was informed that JoJo has some kind of gang affiliation well here's the problems we've got okay when we brought you up here and talk to you about this obviously didn't tell me the whole truth from the beginning about what was going on with you didn't know these guys didn't know anything about them then finally after several hours of talking to you you finally admitted to us that you know who these guys were you told us that they had the keys to your house that they had your car which you didn't tell us from the beginning that they had your car and they had your keys because right to be you didn't tell us any of that information that you kept from us for several hours which if you had told us that information at the beginning that they had the keys to your house they had your car that you knew who these guys were then we could have possibly stopped them before they had done this to your husband okay once we did that not only that but when the guys were there at the house they said that you weren't tied up during the majority of this was going on not only that okay when you made the phone call to your mother who was in the house other than you and the kids who was inside your house oh there was somebody rumaging around downstairs okay well how did the guys know that you called your mother I didn't know that they did know I called my mother they did because when we were talking to them interviewing them I said well how did you know she called her mother I'm standing there listening to her watching her she called her mother no sorry if there was that's exactly what happened you were just as much a part of this is e no I was not you were no I was not you just you just as much part of not only that but when we were pinging their phone you called here husband's phone from here and told them to turn that phone off when we were trying to Ping it to get them located no I didn't they told us you did they told us that was the reason why they called that so that was the reason why they turned the phone off was because you call told them turn off cuz they're paying the phone no I did not walart is pulling out every last scrap of righteous indignation she can muster but it falls flat the phone records will confirm she contacted rymes well it's obvious when we got your phone records here that you did call that no you did call your husband and it was while I was standing here you can see it is call Sir it was while I was standing here getting I my phone it was a cancel call while I was standing here trying to get the number for to help be able to get pink so explain to me how they would know that you were calling your mother if they weren't upstairs with you how did they know that who you were calling that was the only phone call you made and they knew exactly who you called explain that to me Samantha how did they know you were calling your mother because you were part of it you were part of this you're just as guilty as they are you no it was not you were Samantha you knew they PL they all talked to us and pln we've talked to several people who said you've asked them this has been going on for a while of you wanting to have him taken out of your life no that you wanted him removed out of your life didn't you no I did not no I did not then what would these guys what's the reasoning for these guys to come over to your house take him I don't know they kept saying something about his dad I don't no believe me I'm trying to figure this out as much as you are well we've got it figured out and you're just as involved in it as they are no I'm not I'm being as Cooperative as possible you're being cooperative but you're not being truthful yes I am there's a difference between being cooperative and being truthful and you're not being truthful at all to me you call you done nothing but tell me lie after lie after not you can call my mother in here because when I was on the phone with her I told her that somebody was coming back up the stairs MH they could have heard part of the conversation yes no he said he was standing there watching because you weren't tied up during in the whole no yes I was no ma'am you weren't I don't believe you Samantha I think these guys are telling me the truth about what actually happened you're not you're the only one in this equation who's not telling me the truth not being honest with yes I am okay I don't believe you Samantha I don't believe you all the investigators involved in this don't believe you the guys out there telling me exactly what happened these guys we've got in custody telling us exactly what happened okay so you need to go ahead and be honest with me and tell me exactly what I am being honest moment by moment you're not being honest with me Sam you're just as much a part of this as they are you wanted him out of your life didn't you no I did not he was abusive to you he didn't do he didn't reap by you and those kids you wanted him out of your life yes six months ago when we were going through the worst of our problems I didn't want anything to do with him and I tried getting restraining order how come everybody we talk to said the same thing that's all you would talk about was how horribly he treated you how horribly he treated the kids that you want him out of your life after he took the management courses he was I'm talking about recently at the hospital here in the last few days the last when the last week or two you talking to people telling them how you want him out of your life and how how abusive he was to you how abusive he was to the kids that you wanted him out you wanted him gone removed from your life no I informed you that yes me and Charlotte were been see back and forth about the problems that we've gone through and John John know about the conversation too because you said in your too that he could take care of that situation for you yes he did say that but I didn't think he was being serious I never never in my million years thought he was actually going to do anything yes you did because no I did not you gave them the keys to your house you gave them your car I gave him my car to get charl P her in here oh I understand that's part of it yes they admitted that was part of it several days before but then they also the part of come out there and take him away from the house that hadn't even been decided for her for me give them the car until the day it happen did you rizer no sir rander you're back under arrest let me tell you something you screwed up the other day and I'm going to talk to you if you want to have to mirandize you but you're about to be arrested okay you suck this whole dead G thing up yeah you did you sure did don't suck there that bull crap back to me I did not I swear I did not yeah you did set it up we've proved it we've proved it you set it up you're a murderer no I'm not yes you're a murderer no I'm not I didn't yeah yeah you did set it upand her then she don't want to talk that's fine but we're fixing to tell her we'll give her the opportunity but we going to get mirandas first okay then if you want to tell us the story cuz I fix to tell you what I know but we've got to mirandize you legally first now because you are a suspect can you use rest treat at least have my dad know just hey Samantha let me tell you something I told you the other day we didn't know I was just looking into this uh but I knew because you really wasn't a suspect the other day we we had trouble with your story but just because we have trouble with your story didn't mean that just guilty yes sir okay but now let me tell you we've got actually other folks than these that's involved in this that said you had approached them that they've already given statements on said that you've asked them to do something with our bar uh both these guys now even Jonathan turned right around and said hey she did ask me to do this she wanted it she was never even tied up I was no now the door wasn't kicked in you gave him the keys on the car on purpose you see yall thought you had this big elaborate plan but what it is it would done put it together and I'm telling you the evidence shows now this is not me guessing evidence shows you had this done you started it you come up every yes you did you were with them the whole day you can pull the footage from the hospital and see how much interaction I had with Mr P I didn't even know him no no no no I'm not talking about Mr Pon I know you didn't know him but you know Jonathan you know him well that's why no let me tell you something let let me tell you something this is how stupid that you that you were on this deal this is how careless you are and this is what bit you this is what's send you to prison okay uh the day you come in here and oh you come you big scheme all my husband he's he was kidnapped well uh it yeah you're right that's about the only thing that you told it was a truth he was kidnapped you knew they was going to murder him you set it up for one thing when you when you called us that little makeshift tie job they even told us later Jonathan even admitted you was never even tied up the items that walart claimed were used to tire up consisted of one of her own night gowns and a pink ribbon she said the men brought with them he admitted we tried to make the door look like it was kicked in but they used the key in fact the one of the PS they said heing like used key they us left it unlock for them used with them the whole day what was she doing when you over at M Bon when you went over to see tae's cousin over there at the motel room I didn't go to a motel room so was that complete made up by Jonathan at the time cuz see he has changed the story today he's come back told us the truth you set the whole thing up no I did not the only thing about M burning that was ever mentioned with them around is we had to go into Walmart so that I could pull money off of my credit card because I have a prepaid electric but but you you little top job we we were we were actually knew something was wrong when you said he tied up you couldn't get to your phone then we saw that crap you're supposed to be tied up with what a joke what a joke then they come back and tell us well actually Shar was TI at all and then when your mother when you said you supposed to called your mother with you with your face which I knew was a joke all along uh well guess what your mother didn't come over her did she Ginger didn't that's because she was 8 miles away and my mother called that's what they said because you whistled and called Jonathan back in and told Jonathan you guys better hurt and get out of here not my mother but it's a friend that's coming over here a check on me you guys need to hurry up and go they both confirmed that yeah you're a liar you're a liar yes you are you're a liar and you murdered this boy you're just as good as Le yes you did the evidence shows it you're a killer you're just like them you set this thing up you had it done yes you did yes you did they both admitted it every one of them your little makeshift job at the house is a joke everybody that's easy anybody on they see that I told you guys that they had the kids to my house because no no no you're alive no no no the whole thing was made up and it's easy any dummy could go in there and look you don't even have to be a cop to tell that bull crap you pulled there what's all it was was bull crap bull crap you set it up the one that you try to blame this is what you told first I don't know who the guys were then when I got in here oh well it could be that Jeremy guy that lives right around the corner from me then when I come here and tell you again okay oh no I know exactly who it is it was Jonathan it was John Rebel yeah you knew all along because you set it up you knew the guy around the corner fromont that Jeremy whatever his name was that you told me I get his name you knew he didn't do it you confronted him and try to get him to do something I earlier he would not no he didn't he yeah you did Li yes you did and then you sit there you Chang your story oh well this one well no h how how funny is that that all of a sudden you don't know you you don't know who did it and then all of a sudden behold it's like a miracle you just come up with Joe Joe and Jonathan these people you don't hardly know out of knowwhere did you see where you messed up badly yes I changed my story yes you did how many times multiple times multiple time but they threatened to kill my and I know I didn't threaten to kill you kids what did you prom was you going to give him his truck was you screaming I don't have you scre Jonathan wouldn't you no I was not uh-huh no I not yeah you screw him no I was not then what was you going to give him the trust I don't have anything to give him that's how this is so ridiculous that you're I want somebody anything to do with it I want somebody to tell me I'm pretty uh and then you admitted that you had talked to about well uh I told him you know about beating him up or something I can go back look at the video you me to you talk to him about doing something with him but but I wasn't serious I wouldn't serious I we are said that Jonathan said that he can do something with it but I didn't think he walart has been put on the defensive and she is unable to hold her own against the detective serious I talking to yes you did because they did it and they killed him they killed him and you s it up yeah you're a li yeah you can't even get you fake tears out today can you no I no no no no you're a liar and you're just you're a murderer just like they are you set it up you wanted even gone and I'm just trying to figure out why was you screwing Jonathan no sir yeah you screwing Jonathan no I was not please give me a polygraph test I will take it right now oh no I asked you that the other day let me ask my mama first uhhuh uh then and then and then it's awfully odd how many times did you call this weekend update update then you said to me am I going to go to jail am I going to go to jail how many times you ask me that today oh oh am I going to jail you got to get with your conscience you you know we've proved it and got two guys sitting in jail right now actually even more than them that have already given a statement saying she set this up she knew she got to do this and Buddy is it proved it is we have proven it so I just want to know why was you screwing Jonathan or did you what did they because they tried to take the truck for some reason they didn't would you tell them well you can have his truck cuz you're right you Ain got nothing no he asked didn't believe and he told them that they if they would just leave our family alone they could have the truck that's the only reason the truck was ever mentioned that's my husband I Never Promised these guys anything I don't even barely know them I only met I I only know J what you said at first the other day you don't know who they were these were you know what we did we've had them apart we get them in there and you know what they said one of them says well no she knew the work of Jonathan didn't have a mask on well I'll be and then Jonathan come here and says well actually had it on that first drug I bar out of bed the fight it got knocked off so I put it back on and he oh and the other says well maybe that's the case but he says when I remember went back downstairs JoJo said he didn't even have one on all that big act he's putting on she's down there and we got him in front and and what they both agree on is they did beat him in front of you a little bit you're a freaking coldhearted son of a gun to have up your H I'm going to tell you something he didn't deserve this he didn't deserve it no he didn't and you did it you you did yes you did you did you're a liar you are a liar you did every bit of it you set it up with your own confession you've already told us that oh yeah yeah you did you did you told us every bit of it when you sit there the other day you change your story well who did it well then it's that guy around the corner and then I come back here and tell you I know you still lying then you change your story to oh well yeah okay I know I can tell you John Rebel did John Rebel did it John Rebel then the JoJo did it he did it and they find out yes I did over there at the house the day where uh Tay Octavius he was with them he was the one that's with him that night and and they confessed we got him in here well octus the one with us because at first they were saying oh this some God about bur T your cousin then he come back and say well actually no we been with her that day and we setting this thing up yeah it was it was it was T that was with us I told you that that t was the other person yes get my my St is right there get it yes did yes I did I wrot T rice was in it yes I did Sir you said you didn't know their face was covered up you said you didn't know who it was then all a sudden I know it's them once I was actually about the first person I knew who the other two are I know right now you're scared to death that you're GNA spend a lot of time in jail truth is you probably are because you're guilty you did it I know I did oh yes you did you're nothing more than a murderer you set this up because apparent I don't know if you're screwing one of them that's what I think I think you screwing Jonathan wouldn't you no I was not oh yeah well we'll find out cuz he going to tell us he's going to talk to us more yeah yeah yeah Char Got to Do With It Charlotte the one Charlotte's the one that knows that I didn't know John do you you talk to any of my family members I did not know to kill your husband I did not yes you did we've got to proof we've got to proof show it you did I did not yes you're you did who get the proof I think I'm G to tell you something this young man did not deserve what not only did you allow him to be beat in your house that's that's just horrible then you let him go out and kill him like a like a mangy dog I didn't anything you stopped it if you had told us the truth that night you knew who did it you know you could have stopped that but you didn't you didn't oh yeah you could have stopped it you could have stopped even after you had it done you still could have stopped it we would have had time to find them if you have said oh my gosh I made a mistake here guys I can tell you they already St you lied you lied you lied it was the next day and then they done killed him you could have stopped it you could have not done it to begin with but not hir have to do it done sex with him whatever you promised them and then you could have stopped it by being honest and you didn't you chose to lie to make sure he was dead I lied because the last time I had any dealings with this office anytime I've had any dealings with this office the case was not solved and wa now you Chang your story youat because they threaten to kill me children last time I I because I didn't have any love with this office you know how stupid that sounds you know how timely stupid that sounds we got a young man out there being shot in a dead gum head and you're sitting over there you just stopped it and you didn't he's murdered now he's dead everything he has gone well you're still sitting here lying like a dog I'm not lying yes you are coming back and hurting my kids oh bull crap that ain't what you said you just said because this office didn't do anything the last time I done it one is it the last time you it's listen it's your parents now all of a sudden oh well it's back to me again you don't what to say you listed for 5 seconds the last time I had any dealings with this office the case was not solved oh that's the reason let your husband get murdered my sister was raped in the map that's the reason reason to kill him that's you could have stop you tell us the truth you killed him just as no I didn't you killed him you could have stopped it I yes you didn't stop it you could have and you didn't I did I'm tired of wasting my time with you you just stay right here I'll be right back let's see if that War's in there yet lock you up the detectives are almost done with walart they have plenty of evidence and it is clear that she is not going to tell them anything they don't already [Music] know for let me show you what you could stop what do you think what do you think you could have stopped that uhhuh and why didn't you stop it because we didn't do anything last time is that right because we didn't solve your sister's rape that's why you didn't stop this huh is that why you didn't stop it you could have you could have stopped this you knew they took it you do the names all along you didn't stop it that's how he ended up except he was fa down we didn't turn him over but then he was face down murdered like some mang animal that means nothing a human being this kid did not deserve this he did not deserve this he don't deserve you you could have stopped it you remember that you did it you could have you knew all along you proved that because you told us the truth at the end okay I know who did it go get them the hospital you where and find them you didn't do it I told you you were to find them because they texted me and said they were at the hospital I'll be back maybe get more pictures and show you because you need to look at these on stare at these you could have stopped it Samantha you could have you didn't you chose not to you knew the truth all along you chose not to what do you think why didn't you stop it again because your sister was raped because they never arrested the person that did and that's the reason to let him be murdered and I didn't want the person coming after my kids you change your story even Walford appears to believe that is a weak reason but she continues to double down more than anybody I'm not changing I've done that a million times [Music] oh for Sam forgive me for getting a little excited there but you know what a human life means something to me it do it does n we we' proven it hun you you're this you're cooked on this deal that any Common Sense person at all is going to look at this new jury and see right through all this makeshift even they admitted it was makeshift we knew it was before they even told us we just had to prove it um I think it's sad that you could have stopped that and you didn't your your excuse do you think your excuse is going to fly out with a jury with women in there that's got children and they're going be thinking oh my gosh if that was my child she could have stopped it and she didn't and that's the pitiful excuse that you come up with hun your your story's gone your your story ain't going to fly because you made way too many mistakes in this bu getting this thing going I'm trying to protect my kids I know these people have friends and it's not about your children it's about you and Iber and about how he can say you was pretty how he was mean to you and and how you was W something done with him because he wouldn't treating you right that is not the case way in the past yes we had our problems and up until he was arrested and I put a tring order out come back around yes we had our problems we had a lot of them and then he went and he took anger management you can verify that through the anger management course and once he took the anger management and he learned how to control his that means nothing to me that means nothing to me you know what means nothing to me he's dead he was murdered brutally he was tormented that that young man was in pure torment and I'm G to make sure we show the jury the torment he went through they beat him they kicked him in the face right there in your own home and you did you did nothing you did nothing what can I do the guy had a gun in his hand and I had a knife to you did nothing well one thing you couldn't ask him to do it another thing you knew who they were you could have told us immediately we could have found him and could have stopped them he would still be alive terrified no you wasn't terrified yes and you wouldn't terrified at all no you would terrifi you wouldn't even tied up you morning hey stop my mama coming it's one of her friends you guys better hurry up to get out of here that's exactly what they wrote exactly it matches with everything match matches with everything to a teeth it matches to show that you're a liar we've got that's why I say we got plenty of proof to show you set this thing up h no could have stopped it and you didn't no I didn't because my sister at 49 never solved it that's a reason to let a young man get murdered Reas I didn't SC out his underwear pull out of his bed beaten taken into the woods and shot like a dog God that's sad that is that is brutal that's cruel that is brutal and you could have stopped it that night soon as we called you could have said hey look these guys took him I can tell exactly who did it okay this is the kind of car they're driving in fact the detective tries to shock Walford into making an admission of guilt this tactic works on some suspects but Walford is surprisingly resilient car they used your car you do it all Al you got him the keys that's why you gave him the keys it's not no it's not no it's not I gave him the keys to take Charlotte and her baby home oh the day before you gave them the keys the day before home no she the day way to come back all three together and kill your husband no the baby was born on the 18th she had her mother's vehicle there with her it wasn't until the day that they did this that her mother came and took her vehicle and Charlotte's fre and I didn't know she was going to get her baby home and I told her that she could use my car so you just so happened to give three the three killers the keys to your car I gave John the keys to my car so that he could take Charlotte home from the hospital come back and pick me up and I make you look like you're Innocent but in the meantime you gave them the keys really so he come back out there and kill your husband no I didn't them BMS out car they lived in tents in Pittsburgh by house I didn't know yeah you did cuz even the people left the house you over with you kids that day no it wasn't he was no I wasn't I was in the hospital with Charlotte not all day you wasn't yes I was up until I had to go to Walmart and they took me home no I don't know anything about Jose and the only reason I know anything about Tay is because he has a child he has kids with a friend of mine I haven't seen Tay in 8 years up until I saw at the hospital and we caught up and talked some about the problems he had with his baby mama you are a good actor actors I'm sorry you putting on a good show it's not a show you killed your husband no I did not you could have stopped it may I might have been able to help you and maybe I would have done something yes I I have to live with that forever I don't have to live with that forever but I did not get this I did not have this done so I'm still trying to figure out a good excuse why didn't I did not because they said they were going to kill my kids they have friends and family members and I look like a scary guy in the parking lot and he had a gun we proven that a lie that is not a lie that is the keys like come in your house I gave him the keys to take Char off from the hospital now that's the excuse he's going to use so they can kill him and then you can make it look like it was something uh own his his daddy did or because of his that's what they said in person no you uh you could have stopped it and you didn't I'm still trying to figure out why you didn't that's what let's just I'm a judge and there's a jury around here young lady you could have stopped his murder and you didn't you told lie after lie after lie before you finally come out the truth well many hours after he had done been taken you knew he was dead you could have stopped it and you didn't because I was terrified they were going to come what you said they what you said want to go you said it's because your sister right we never you solve it and the man raped still out walking around if they got back to them that I had turned them into the police and nothing was done and they were still out walking around they could have came back for to finish the job and get my kids you talking about the ones that killed Ruben yes I mean I mean I my husband well then why did you tell us if you scared you told us why because I wanted him home no I wanted him you didn't want him home yes I did when the night when he was taken and you didn't you wait till he dead but so you can't be afraid to go come out you your children because you told us anyway because you sat down and you promised me that you would protect my kids no I never make that promise yes you did no you told me we could so let's say I did make that promise so we couldn't have made that promise that night to go you you didn't try I was scared sh no you wouldn't scared you want to make sure the only thing you scared of you knew he proba might have been dead already and and it used word back on to jail and why did I finally tell you the truth well because you're so worried about getting arrested I think that uh you slipped up accidentally because you knew I knew I I was on to you and you having to give me something else and you spit that name out and then it was over because you knew the one that you told before said lip beside you wouldn't know pay out over and talk to him you knew that you knew they going to be saying hey wait a minute she's crazy but you know what the ones we grabbed they didn't say he crazy they got back soon as we grabbed it they said well uh yeah but we need to talk to you about it because there's more to it than what you think and then one said well do I you the body but she's one to put us up to no I did not there's no other reason for them to do that they had no beef against his kids you didn't know him they didn't know him he didn't know Iber didn't know them then how is it did I supposedly talk him into doing that that is an excellent question unfortunately and full explanation is never given sford and the others had no reason to commit murder for Walford huh I didn't I don't know that's why I want you to tell me that's what I'm telling you I don't know you your own words you said well the reason this is what I just watching Interview walk go me you know what you said see you say that you don't even remember uh well the reason there blood in that truck is because they had to go in there and get his W to make absolutely sure it was him they had no beef against this boy that's what they person no they didn't you had it done you could have stopped it and you didn't no I did not didn't you keep changing your stories no I did not I'm telling you exactly what I know and the guy that was hitting him in the face with a gun told the other guy to Goan as want to be sure who this was they kept saying you take your dad for this no they tried to make it at first in front of him make it look like you didn't know what was going on but that didn't work out because during the struggle John re got ripped off so he never put it back on and he said she knew I was on want her put my bana back on why would they be trying to make it look like I didn't know anything about it why wouldn't they be trying to put everything on me to save their own probably because you screwing one of them no I wasn't yeah something no I wasn't you know L didn't do this for for nothing you promised them something I told you tell you it will tell you what I'm being honest about already asked you you well I don't know I got to talk about first I I'm telling you right now on camera I want a polygraph test I want you to know that I'm telling the truth and if you don't believe me just by talking to me get a machine to tell you if I'm telling the truth nope don't need I've been proed other words I don't need you polyram now I I done proved it h we done proved you're a liar we done proved you had this done we have Pro I didn't have this done you could have stopped it and you didn't I didn't know to you could stopped it and you didn't you left a murder that young man I don't care if he wasn't good to you or not that is no excuse to kill a person you could have kicked him out you could have left you could have done anything other than had him killed and and you no reason kill you knew all along who they were and you chose not to why well we've got about three or four different stories on that from you already too haven't we I told it's not three or four different stories well yes it is no it's not first it was you're scared I was scared look my sister uh was right no now you're trying to I was scared again no now you're trying to Twisted around to the way you want it I was scared that they were not going to be actually detained to take it in off the street and then going to come back and get my kids because of previous history with this office that they didn't pick up the person no NOP no no that's another see this story changed again no see here's because scared of that youd never told you stu your store to begin with never told but you let him die you you did what it makes you makes you a murderer I'm not a murderer oh yes yes you are no I'm not same thing you had it done you could have stopped it and you didn't you chose not to you let this young man be brutalized scared to death die begging for his life then they shot him like a m dog you could have stopped it this young man didn't deserve that no he didn't deserve you he didn't deserve that and you did it you let it happen you you had it done and then you could have stopped it and you did it that is bad that is horrible you could have stopped it you didn't do you have the word yet excuse me yeah we've got it we're fixing start sit down I want an attorney huh I want an attorney I bet you do you want an attorney you'll have to go through the process because you're about to be arrested so this interview's over we will not talk to you again without an attorney that understood can I make my one phone call yeah we'll meet you back in the Gent soon as we get you booked in okay the interrogation ends leaving walart in a state of sulkiness Samantha Walford was found guilty of kidnapping and Murder She was sentenced to 99 years in prison still seeking attention walart has requested that people sign up to 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