[Music] the first week of trial wraps up in Laredo Texas for a border patrol officer facing the death penalty prosecutors accuse him of killing his alleged mistress and young son over child support money this week several officers testified for the prosecution detailing Bergos avales at times bizarre behavior at the crime scene and while detained photos of injuries on the defendant were shown to the jury as well along with evidence of his police radio cell phone and DNA being present at the murder site Jesse I think it's all ego he trying to control that scene he thinks he can direct the other officers away from himself little did he realize they were already focused on him because they did get information right after they got to the scene that the victim basically said she was going to meet someone by his name at the scene border patrol agent Ronald AES was married to a fellow agent and they had two young Sons Amy AES thought they had a strong marriage but unknown to her AES was seeing other women one of those women was Griselda Hernandez the affair resulted in a child Dominic but Ailes had no interest in being a father at first this seemed to suit Hernandez who agreed to raise him on her own this worked for almost 2 years when Hernandez decided to go to school she realized she was going to need financial care she contacted AZ and he became a afraid that his wife would find out and his marriage would collapse AES set up a meeting in the same area where he would be patrolling he killed both Hernandez and Dominic and then pretended to discover the bodies you guys keep me the wrong we're we're not trying to do that we're just trying to get like I told the guy can I just make arrangement so somebody pick up my kids and yeah okay come on what time they get I 1500 has uh have you do you have members that can do that or you wife pick okay she what is she do she work somewhere okay um I guess before we start this process what's your wife's name um I have it on my phone somebody my phone yeah yeah we'll communicate that right now she did she work somewhere yes on she custom uh where they at at school or they at daycare when was at day was at school I was ask you can I just call her myself okay we'll make her we're going to get some assistance to do that right now I think that it's important that we get to this right now for starters um you think that's the number for sure what time do she get out at 4 p.m. does she not know to go get the kids or is it your turn AZ is concerned about who will pick up his children from school his wife is still unaware of what is happening get well we get the same time what they he closer what they Little Learning Center so the main you want someone to go get her right to go get the kids so it's okay if I call her to tell her hey look okay but but you know furthermore I mean if if you don't show up then obviously they're going to be calling you and your wife color yeah I think the rest of that what what's your last name Amy Amy you know just let's just get to it because is [ __ ] all right I mean obviously you know we've been together all morning long so you know where this is stepping from and you know the only thing we can do is try to get everybody side of the story obviously you know you're here and we transported you from the scene that we're at right so at this point I think it's pretty clear that you you're not allow to so you know we're still it's still their investigation we're trying to figure out all the details we need to hear everybody side the story arrested the other guys no right you're detained right now you're not free to leave you're not understand it's only the other what other guys the my old bo what're what we're doing right now is we're just weesing no one's you know being UNL we're just trying to do is is get all the facts youres too I mean whatever whatevers that you need that are going to be accurate you're going to end up getting from us but before we start all that you know obviously you know your status in the situation but we do need to get all the details and we want to get every of story so before we do any of that stuff I think pretty much and get your side of the story when you do make sure you have the right to remain sent and not not make any statement at all and that any statement you make may be used against you in your J you understand that sir any statement you make may be used as evidence against you report the right pres advis prior to question if you're unable to employ a lawyer you have the right to have a lawyer appointed to advise you prior to and during any question understand that right yes okay and you have the right to terminate this interview at any time right any statements that you make you're making them knowingly you're making them intelligently and uh in your voluntarily way your rights wish um I think that we need to get your side of the story you know make sure you understand signature anybody follow the [Music] station you know to is BOS I'm sorry Ronald Anthony BOS a yes um so I'm arrest it right as of now we're intervie you know we want we want to find out all the details of the case we don't know everything me don't Su Co [ __ ] man because you're being legally detained right now an investigation what we know right now is that you should up to the scene and there's a dead person why don't we start from that why don't we start from when you ared and you discovered are you a morning chef person did you come in in the morning yes what time did you show up Tom work uh 55 is the time that I show up 5:15 in the morning and I think you got to do mustard at 6 a.m. 6 okay and then what happened after that you guys must refer how long I how long it depends depends on what information going to be all that and then we you assign your location to go work was that uh at the location where you're at no I was just I was yeah I was the what call the river supervisor the river supervisor so you basically can Ro distances um anywhere between where and where these guys all have stay position you can area nobody anybody okay well I mean based on some of the agents that we were talking to that there earlier said oh I'm working from a piece and in your particular situation you're not them okay so you don't have a piece you have a long stretch them okay and how long is your stretch from where to where is your stretch your jurisdiction how far does it run resp my station area the whole sector so from colia all the way down to where we found you pass that fur out further south and so what happened next you put on duty how did you end up where you ended up did you go was that your first encounter kind of like going toward no I [Music] went so day the station for a little bit let's just do like a little time okay you a memo you were station until what time just approximate I can't I can't tell you that 7 8 I can't I wasn't AZ isn't going to even guess about the timeline this works in his favor to avoid conflict with any witness statement or security footage that may prove where he was at a given time I wasn't aware of of the time it's just it's s Soul routine that you don't even think like okay this time and this this time that you know you the station do you have breakfast or you kind get to okay so you left the station after you're doing your administrative duties and then did you head to the river banks kind of thing or yeah drove I drove towards the W Tre Bridge from where from from the station what station you report which is sh way up there okay around there so coule guys talk to what Ag and I just kept working working with working working the down Riv you know like going south okay yeah so I mean ask okay so you started working South right and then you ended up where we saw you yes right yes and that's the last place that's where you ended up yes okay so what happened while you were there in that area where we found you you want to know what happened yeah um I was I was I went to the park when I was going down Riv I went to the bar I just did a loop for a bit and then another agent agent and I just talk to him I told him I to go because the station I called me to go to the station and then that's when I I drove on that raiv and that's where you know what I saw stuff in body story so you found you found how many bodies you playing I I just saw that one person just so I saw that one person I just saw legs first yeah I ran there first I kind of freaked out grab my hand there like what's that called for it I try to her p in her neck and then um her hand that time I [ __ ] sh [ __ ] you know doing I mean I know I don't know weird what was your impression when you saw her was it like this is you seen something you somebody be up because they didn't pay on the other side to cross nothing crazy get whatever and so when you try shaving her I mean what were you thinking about obviously you can tell a female yeah I mean I could it was a fale but it was hard be told she was down and you have like a failed attempt to kind of bring her through because well the same timeously I on the radio I you know as all this is going on I say you know I need your help come over here and he was like probably from with the door came up the stairs to where we know that's how far when we were so he just I don't saw the units were yeah so he got there um AAS was seen leaving the area and then returning it was also clear that he had tampered with the evidence which goes against his training I recently released another exclusive patreon video exposing a chilling incident where a man Unleashed his rage by committing a shock act of violence against an innocent 15-year-old this heart-wrenching video shows interrogation of Cody The Man Behind this horrible crime watch the full video and more at patreon.com stranger stories plus you know said it's hard for me to remember step by step man so I'm trying to I'm trying to give it to you dets can it's a difficult situation but we just kind of want do the best possible when you your you're all right man I'm like yeah what happen I I don't know was in the radio I was a little little [ __ ] I'm like I get for what what is the situation like I don't know just get them in here they're like I need to I need to get you know why do you need Ems for I'm like I don't know what's going on right now you just get them here radio radio but you were you transmitting to the blood you down it's because the thing is one thing going to my head is that uh I didn't want to make it sound that serious because we have a tendency that when could stop anything usually not stop like we put anything exciting everybody show up and I want everybody to show up and they did anyways the helicopter show up when you know what I'm saying so everybody wants to help you everybody want I was trying to keep I just said this subject you need assistance like I think that's like the word that I use not to make it s anyone say like that's that body you know that people you did you say anything else about your injuries I didn't say you should because I I didn't okay I can't remember saying anything in I I didn't know I didn't no I can't I can't remember I'm pretty sure I got but what would be the big deal about you um you know arousing everybody's the space and Sh people sh oh you have a dead body there what would be the issue that this is this is my issue my issue is that we as bans We Don't Know Jack [ __ ] about crime scene [ __ ] right and which we did which my buddies did we show up there and what do we do we start walking around all over you know leing our PRS everybody you know we don't and they have taught me before one of the things in a situation like this they want us to they have told us supervisors if you're get into a situation like this say I caught accident or any situation where some somebody like hurt let's get the least people as possible and actually remember saying on the radio L here with me if there's anybody else responding Stand By and my and my and because L I was to the training there was three was there so at least well I guess I was worried about man having the less people to [ __ ] better you know so you were trying to preserve The Preserve yeah and you can tell I think in this particular situation I mean you know you're showing up and it's you know you're you're thinking that oh she's probably assaulted someone that didn't want she didn't want to pay or whatever yeah you know she's lifeless it looks like a a viol attack um you know I think it's necessary get say you know FAL down possas you know ENT and police I also I understand that but also I've been told before we we don't make determinations if somebody Dees or not it might be obvious you know what I'm saying it might she might have her head cut on yeah but until somebody with the certification with the bo SE going to say disas because I don't know az's statement is ridiculous even if he hadn't been the one to kill her Hernandez had been stabbed 30 times and it would have been clear to anyone that she was no longer alive she could have been unconscious for you know and then I'm over here saying that no but you know better than that no no I know I know no but it's not I know better than that it's black and white who am I to say so and so is dead or so I'm just saying I mean considering amount of blood that was around this girl and she was faed down you know that you know that's common sense it's not a matter of the radio of blood down whatever I said whatever I said it don't matter what what is that that I got there I said I me we have a a subject in assistance and that should that that should tell to send them there regardless I asked for backup my backup show up your backup wasth and they W over to where you at yeah they showed up where I was and then what happened there well by the time that showed up which was like real quick I was yeah he tapped it also and he's like what you happened and L is an exmilitary guy so I kind of like what do you say that like I was instead of me being like the one in charge I kind of like what do you think man what should we do because his military he's got a lot train military too but I don't have that type of training he has and he's like I don't know he he he started saying like what could it be it looks like dogs be her I don't know he started saying all kinds of stuff and which I don't should you know it doesn't matter what he said you know and um you know at the time um you know we kept taing her I think I don't know you know be freaking saying that I said because I think he F her P also and I ask him what you think and then I'm like he's like I don't know it's really hard for me to tell because the position it was so we get tempted to but then at that time I kind of realized you know what man we touch chck with me both so who from where where you from I don't know I think I gra her by like by like shirt shoulder like cuz you know like this like that in the arm and I don't know what he got just saw his and so when you did that how far did you all get up you got was pretty quick because then I realized we're touching we're touching with a GL so at that time he he told his traine you have any gloves and train so he put his on and he move your we put gloves on and um Fu man I can't remember I after that man I think I told go just don't touch him man because I mean at that time I was saying like don't you because I mean I kind of like already the whole she might be gone start the same King I'll be honest with you I know you [ __ ] probably think that I should have [ __ ] known whatever but at the time in I didn't know she could be unconscious I've seen people pass out because they walk for Miles with no water and you think they're dead and then when they freaking take me to the hospital they the people of elz describes aren't surrounded by their own blood so the scenarios aren't comparable I know I know you [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah I do you know I know I know man but [ __ ] man I I didn't [ __ ] he was say he actually he [ __ ] said I don't think she's gone when let me go back real quick when you when you I know you said you grab her like maybe twice right two or three times did you have gloves on the whole every time the first time you did second time you did no any time when I put my gloves on you know what that's why I said I any okay same the same for him so I'm assuming that you washed your hands after yes I yeah had water in my in my throat I wash my hands there and I told the guys do c to for exposure because we touch their bear okay so in this particular situation I me you know you're not seeing that she's passed out because of key exposure you see because blood force trauma and it's pretty clear the blood trauma blood pull of blood usually that's a sign a discussion that we had with you and with L and with SM was like hey there's blood here blood here blood here let make the bigger well that was them that was one was making those calls like I said he's the one that yeah we agre we show up we were there 10 seconds we said at the time I was there I didn't know it was drama trauma I know that [ __ ] you know yeah ass because the I fing [ __ ] man you my face the I thought she got beat up and I didn't in my head man I wasn't thinking what happened did she got shot in the head did she got freaking cuz I say something about dogs because it was a guy walking with dogs sh that he mention that moment that was going on I wasn't thinking that [ __ ] that's no you're get me wrong I'm not saying that you're supposed to know what she had the only thing we saying is that just by looking at it you know that it's a serious serious injury whatever whether it's a you know she on the head or whether you know she was assaulted with something else that's all I'm saying you should have known that she was there I say you should have known she was de sound like like come on man you should have known better you should have known that that it was pretty dang serious I knew it was serious but I told you I want to put in the radio some we got that we clarified that so you guys move her couple times did you get a good look at her did you say did you say at one point who's this em trying show you how far we move look like this you know it was and then her hair was down and all that [ __ ] you know so that that was a fail you said okay you kind of messy with this situation that's move what happened next we did like we went into like the surrounding areas like just in case it was I don't know somebody uh in your separate directions or One Direction they went Direction yeah and then what what happened with your sweet we found shoes which I found shoe I didn't see anything of it I think I find shoes all the time from from the aliens just grabbed it looked at it to make sure I look all water put it down there's no training needed to understand that objects shouldn't be moved right after discovering two bodies Stoller same thing you know I looked at it I grabbed it whatever get anything over it they Contin sweet sweet sweet we went back it was another shoe looking at the same one that I found and that's what I'm like you know you shoes yeah that's I was like you know what this shoe here looks like the other one and it was like pretty cold so I grabbed it and I put it down the dirt and that was that white one that was there you grab both shoes the first one I grabbed and I think it was like far away it was like maybe like 15 so I grab it but it was like 20 20 30 ft away don't [ __ ] put me on it I'm giving you exact distances cuz I'm just giving you so you can visualize it right didn't think anything all it I put it down right yeah walk back sweet area all stff stroller over it again cuz like I said we always trash all that place went back to R and I told him what I saw and and where actually where he was at in the area of the BR that's where I saw the other shoe he didn't see but I saw it and I grab this like the other shoe man he's like he might rehears man cuz you she she's using two shoes so that's why I put it and it was like pretty cold so I grabbed it and I put it the you grab both shoes the first one I grab and I it was away it was like so why I grabbed it but it was like 20 30 ft away don't [ __ ] P me on it like I'm like I'm giving you exact distances but I'm just giving you so you can visualize it right didn't take anything over it I put it down right walk back and going sweep area all the stuff F stroller all again cuz like I said we always trash all over that place went back to and I told him what I saw and actually where he was at in the area the BR that's what I saw the other he didn't see I saw it and I gra the Sho man he might be man missing two Sho so that's why put it put it there so you put oops so you put one shoe back to where she at and theay stay away and my forgot about that and so you discovered her you discovered both shoes you discovered the stroller um this us getting here at least I can't remember police was there you know what when I discovered the the I think EMS is over here EMS but I can't remember no you guys yeah I went I went what else did you find in your search when you're doing your search I I I heard it was a kid I went to the area how old you was did you was that an H situation for you female baby strer in that particular area there there is hot for reg trff you know she was discovered she was a little bit off they stay all was unpaid it was unid but it's still it's not that I I told you when there talking we saw a r this particular case there's there's a woman like our age with a stroller and a one-year-old in a difficult place for us to walk with I I don't know I don't I don't run the detectives are skeptical but AES would prefer they believe him to be inept rather than a murderer in the trails and that out by by the river you know I on the street run through there walk their dogs like the dog and people whatever so to be honest with you to me he seen somebody there would I be suspicious about about fale a St really really zero suspicion in that area when you all discovered the shoes and Str their I I can't remember I know I can't remember if had just getting there the helicopter was flying do you think that situation where you discovering body shoes stroller that situation kind of heighten your concern like oh man this this is bad you then call like we need to set up for what the bad guys in there it looks like a very situation I had yeah I had already told the guys perimeter or or perimeter tur to Perimeter search because bad guys hiding the last thing I want to be is like me my me L and Smith standing like this all three making a freaking easy target we all together when you guys were kind of turning her over and you know doing what you for was there any attempt to identify her to see who she was no I kind of curious to you man the I was just like so you you it business is normal for you right you see this a lot so let's get past that because I don't think you're going to say I mean that's what your story is so let's get past how did you end up why did you end up over there where the car was there was was was one of you guys he he was me the run down he was telling me um that they were going to take pictures of our units drone or whatever and ask who who's the guy in charge he I am so I'm like all right with him anything that I get for my end I'll tell him anything that he gets from his you obviously saw the scene and now you saw the car putting all that together what does that mean to you the C to any suspicion about who the card is or who could be driving it or who could they belong to nothing nothing at the time what about now now now now my is your what do you think don't have to ask you who is it I'm not sure what do you think it is I'm not sure think you got something get I'm not I'm not sure to be honest with well if you think that it was somebody that resembles the person who do you think it would be it's not that it's not that resemble somebody I not see the person okay the car the car resemble the the car the Mercedes it kind of rings the bell but I don't want to say anything because I I know for a fact no but is it up to us to verify if it's true or not you all we're asking for is you know your opinion what like I don't want to give you my opinion on that because I don't know for sure I don't want to be saying stupid [ __ ] we say here is stupid unless you liy to us no I mean what I mean I be saying you know say this what do you think the car belongs to what do you think it belongs to you before yeah I saw it today whose car is it I don't know whose car is who do you think it is I based on your feing earlier think it's someone's car he he's a little more patient man I'm going to lose my patience here with you quick yeah because I want you to to to be honest with us chance you know gave the chance to come here and tell us the TRU about everything that happened today we really know a lot more than you think we know we know who came in from the cameras we know what time the car got there we know what time you went in you the only two vehicles that were parked that pulled into that place right the the car we know who she is you know who she is you have a baby with her so I mean we want to know we want to know now you tell me explain that to me I well you you tell me who you have a baby with you said that you said you have baby right her right her well you tell me I'm asking you who's her you tell me who's the car whose car is it whose car is it right I don't know who AAS person well you're asking me a question I answer you want you ask me something okay who okay let me ask you this are you married yes okay did you have do you have a baby with another girl I don't know I don't know I can't you that's a stupid answer youan you you what do you mean you don't know you ask or no there's no around you know we're talking homicide do you have a baby with someone else yes or no we simply got to make it easier for makes the situation worse I know where you're going but the yes or no questions if it's it's not that simple it's not like it's not I got tell you well no listen asking you if you have a baby with someone other than your wife is a yes or no I'm not going to judge you I don't give a damn I'm just asking you do you have a child or somebody else it's because I don't know twice already somebody said they pregnant me who who are those females that have told you twice they said they're pregnant is it Lindsay who Lindsay Lindsay who I don't know her name that's her nickname Lindsay or the other and the other one was in chis CH one that's two these are just someing females that I do V I don't I met like I said I met where did she work so she used and then 23 24 that was that's when I met him I don't know about now I don't when was the last time you saw either one of these girls uh Lind I saw a couple months ago couple weeks ago Street um does she appear to be that person that he saw the after viewing his social media accounts the detectives found that AES was seeing another woman besides Hernandez so AES technically wasn't lying when he said that Hernandez was not the woman he was dating what about the second one theem resembl she have a child yes how old was the baby a child year and a year and a half where she normally drive when I met her she drove a truck 2 years years truck so you've been Senor in the side from your wife that was years ago and my wife were had issues you know she left and she came back with when she came back no how long ago did you break up with G never the social day it was just like but it was intimate intimate relationship sex just friends with benef right now now you understand what I'm telling you like I don't know for sure because it's not like it's not like how you thinking but that's why you got to explain I told you no you fre went off on me when you told me no what that you told me you have baby yes or no well it's a yes or no question it's not a yes or no question because it's like well I mean you're trying to you're still trying to blame me by saying maybe I'm explaining it you grown man I'm I'm explaining it to you so I know your answer is maybe right you don't know you possibly have a kid with ly and maybe with Grizz no no they alleged that they were yeah exactly they said I I can tell you right now so then the answer is no cuz you you don't think you have babies I don't no that's I don't know you don't know I don't know that's the answer I don't know when was the last time you saw Griz uh two 3 weeks ago two 3 weeks ago two four weeks ago yeah so you guys kind of still carrying on a little relationship we start to talk what's TR to ask you what's your cell phone number 863 863 ask 2421 5881 so your telephone number for Anton aidz is known by the mother of the okay okay so go from there let's get off your you got ask you're the victim's mother which is grieving beyond anything you can imagine right now it's saying that your name is this and your phone number is this is the same provid yeah that's true so we know the identity of that person when confronted with the fact that Hernandez and her mother have his phone number AES plays it off as if it doesn't matter he doesn't even try to fake shock which would be a normal reaction from a person who had just discovered that someone they know has been murdered and a child okay tell us what happened with what with the incident that you discover are you telling me it's a coincidence that you discovered a person dying you know that died that was murdered it was a coincidence yeah yes that's PR is there any chance that this child can be yours what like I was telling you finish my story sorry all so I know that's how they know me right I'm not denying that I don't know didn't see G now do I possibly know for sure that was G over there or Lindsay I don't know because I didn't take told you I'm talking like at the moment you know that's why you guys are wondering how come the U person or whatever that you know I didn't have I didn't have a freaking I didn't have a clue okay who the person was it was me and B when we Str there like I was so y'all were together y'all discovered the body together yes okay so I saw it first right and then you R you were by yourself over there yeah it was like about 10 seconds 15 seconds maybe that you think we should be a lot this why because why why you know because he discovered it no you hear what did you hear what I said you guys need to stop playing like the little run around like little tricks we asking you you're the one you're the one that's not telling us the truth what do you think you think that all of this stuff is coincidence you're a St there you're the one that FS her and then the little one-year-old one and halfy found found right across from her right uhhuh we were told that you were supposed to be at part I want to [ __ ] no one everyone was lying the last time I talked to her what's about maybe a week ago the detectives push back against his story showing their disbelief that it is possible that the bodies he found just so happen to belong to his girlfriend and Child Check stop thinking about the movies stop thinking about any potential moves it's not you need to stop [ __ ] thinking of this little game if you if you [ __ ] think I'm [ __ ] guilty then why you [ __ ] talking to me then because you going to give you an opportunity to talk don't give me [ __ ] [ __ ] then because you got give [ __ ] [ __ ] intervie you that's what we doing this is our [ __ ] job you guys are [ __ ] pissing me off oh you we give Dam two dead bodies over here you think we give a [ __ ] okay man up go some nuts man tell us what happened I already told you you walk by you see two dead B there and just Happ to be one of that you have a relationship with years ago you you just saw two or 3 weeks ago so and so what you still talk to her yes I talk to her right just like I talk to so what you saying that because of that I believe you did I believe you did all right I mean let's think about let's think about us let's not think about you you know the victims are gone they're gone wor mom sister and extended family us to sincerity you we're law enforcement agency all of both of us more Patrol pene it's going to come out that you're the suspect in this case that's funny this is bigger than me and you this is bigger in both departments you're looking at a family that's grieving now and will grieve forever and all because we're sitting here trying to be who's tougher than who bro no it's not that the faster that you can put it in front of you and and get in front of it and then you get in front of it because the case is it speaks for itself the faster that you can get in front of it EAS it be for you and [Music] your is that is that your water bot where's your your immediate family we got immediate family here or we're back in PTO Rico how long have you been here look man I'm going tell you something I going smoke up your everybody has issues issu Something's Happened something said you all something people just don't want to see that you did just cuz you [ __ ] hated her just no something happen I don't hate her okay every time I talk to her it's fine we J around you know we [ __ ] around all the time D around whatever she was a coolick man right I know her you know she did tell me that she thought she have a baby on M I tell I mean whenever the heck you know a year and a half whatever and it's sa like that you know it's like I think never confirmed or denied she never confirmed or denied she always used to say what but it was never like Prov for real you know like we never went to that we never did that's why I'm telling you I can't answer you yes or no I'm telling you yes you're saying that I know but do I really you know no just because she says so she says you is your is your baby have you ever to go look the child you never why just cuz you were afraid that it might be I mean I'm not going to judge you I just want to know why CU believe me people don't want to know why I mean if someone tell me hey you know what to have your baby D even if I don't really care that person I'm up and take care but you to anyone else in aes's situation would realize that they would be a person of interest because of their connection to the victims AES chooses to Fain righteous indignation as if they are harassing him without cause long a long time ago a year ago year and a half ago yeah very much how old are you now you were 27 26 26 I was so you were problems everything I saw whatever so to me it was just like you know you see your hand I mean like I said Jud I told fuing and so then what happened today what happened today look man because you're going to come say something and I'll tell you something there was some remember body what I'm talking about that we have your phone and we have her phone that's going to just be put together okay that's F her family is saying that she might to meet you they know you toet her know Mom I'm going to go meet okay you know I what I what I know my side I don't know what she says over there don't know but I know I wasn't the only one all right that she was see don't lose your focus the focus is that she told her mother I'm leaving with the intentions of meeting bu she turns up dead and we find you can't twist it you can't twist that put I know you can't put yourself on our in our shoes right now but you know just imagine how that looks imagine how you kind of explaining this to not be you very hard but at this point they're gone you home hell hell okay what do you think what do you think I think that a s [ __ ] thing man but I think that that you guys can [ __ ] be blaming me because I didn't [ __ ] do it I just stumble into this you know it wasn't like I [ __ ] did this [ __ ] you know and like [ __ ] like 15 seconds later you know like it's not like you know guys trying I think the faster that two things well go two things the faster that you can come to terms with it and accept it is the faster going be easier for you but it's also going to be easier for the legal system you know to see how you're thinking this if you're have all this evidence you're not remorseful I am I am remorseful I am remorseful I feel bad for the for for what happened you know because I I know her you yeah her not the family whatever her you know you you just you feel bad for what happen I feel bad for for the thing the thing that the thing is man well I'm [ __ ] pissed man because how everything just went down the fact that I'm here the fact that somebody just because I know her and I thinking hit it couple years ago now I'm [ __ ] guilty you the body people who discover bodies are almost always considered a person of interest this is also true of spouses and love interests a did not think this through because as an ex-lover and the person who found Hernandez he had ensured that the investigation would focus almost entirely on him no nobody was [ __ ] trying to [ __ ] hide [ __ ] this was put out the [ __ ] radio there was [ __ ] back up immediately there exp so I wasn't I wasn't freaking trying to hide [ __ ] I was just driving on my assign area right so because this [ __ ] because I [ __ ] hit it 2 years ago I'm [ __ ] guilty of it you know how it works you're not guilty you're innocent so proing guilty you come on man don't give me this [ __ ] you guys are talking to me like if I'm [ __ ] guilty with you we believe you do it yeah I you did it all right that's where we at now it doesn't matter what I believe it's what the jury is going to believe I know that okay I know you're you don't want to make it you want to make it make it like I'm you ain't [ __ ] Fair yeah I [ __ ] hate it let's go back because you had a fall out of your wife she left you hooked up with this girl she told you I had a kid you're in denial that it's yours I was your wife I wasal your wife's come back and now this girl is not letting go the fact that you're the dad to this kid that's not true that's not true I that's not how's that not true I mean she's telling you that's your she told me a while back and after that it's like one those with your wife she went back to where where you going from she went back to her hom where's H Florida and that's a major commitment to come have a break up leave and then come back again I understand that means that your hearts with her your heart with a out of nowhere G is saying hey man you got a baby you got a baby either you got to PE out sport or you got to M out and take care of him no it wasn't ever like that it wasn't ever like that I don't see any other scenario man she was she was never only like that she was never only like that I'm telling you she's not that type of person she she was like man how did she tell her family how did she borrow a car Mercedes how she borrow even her car then and man wait don't try t just listen I'm being truthful you need to be truthful I'm being truthful with you too how did she a car her how did I'm telling you what I'm learning cuz you want to know you want to know what we're learning the truth go ahead how did she tell her I'm going to go meet B by saying hey I'm going to go meet B and H she end up meeting you at that location where you happen to be and how she end up dead and how do you end up finding her want me to rewind we had a huge team of investigators we already have all the video everything just ask this she was park right no did you go to the park out there I I didn't know where she was parked no but she went to that entrance went to the entrance right uhhuh okay okay the car was there okay so the car was there when you got there where you going there white Mercedes okay and L turn around you know the C in all right turn a donut all right came out the same way I came in I came out went into ause and way there okay right there talk to him told what I was going to do I left I evening that's what the situation happened I called it out I put on the radio I call he show up with me when he show up with me everything started going down he's asking me all kinds of questions how long you think she been there blah this and that it looks like for from from from last night or whatever all kinds of things fing I the [ __ ] that's fine listen you you okay now you tell you go in you turn into the park you see the Mercedes there right okay when you put in there was there any other agents in that area was L there in that area just the C oh the cdps cdps okay but they were we in the mark area no at the same time the Mercedes was there when I went in Mercedes Mercedes she was she was probably off the Mercedes at the time right you didn't see any inside I didn't go that way man it's just a Mercedes you can't just say because it's a B carard I was supposed to know that it was somebody that I knew two [ __ ] years ago no no I'm not asking you that listen to what I'm saying before you start jumping did you see anybody in the car I didn't see any you're not observ aren't you an observing agent yes hey didn't you look to see there's anybody in the car see know if you did I'm not to think any less of you I just want to know no you know why because if you were driving down that road as many times as I do the the place where that car was part even if there was somebody in the car you couldn't see cuz that's how far away it was again I'm scanning car Mercedes C way but you didn't know was the only car from CDP right I don't know only cars but the only thing you saw was CDP in that car that's what I'm getting at they may or may have not been other car but what you remember is that car in a Mercedes and CDP right and cdps right it's because that car was kind of like a alone you know the same where you guys found it you never seen that before I saw I've seen play White Mercedes before how was that you know her family members you know them I don't know them I don't know here I never met I don't okay it's kind of do you have a protective order against you from anybody from who I don't know anybody any of your what's that mean but a protective order like a restraining order like has your wife ever a protecting order against you for domestic violence no and any of these girls there's no record of AES having a restraining order against him or otherwise being involved in any type of altercations with women no so I'm just saying so we run your name you're going to come out clear um that no question also well because if you do have a you should cuz they serve you you go to court and they tell you hey you can't be within th000 ft from this girl you can't communicate with that's never happen to you am I going stay here amend night here no bro this is not a jail this isend to jail not yet are you are you yes or no not yet we're being pretty honest okay are you going to take me later to um I can't tell you this yet you detained detention means you can't go anywhere until we figure out you know we I'm a camera here I'm not Li you got it yeah fine man okay thought I thought we going my kids but you going to say not to car cuz you now I'm fuing freaking out it should be okay there nothing really work is there is there any way that I can call her and let her know what I'm at man faster that you cooperate cooperating with you guys but I don't understand where you guys are coming from and it's [ __ ] it's weird as [ __ ] but bro the way that [ __ ] out you can't [ __ ] L I was talking to him like five [ __ ] seconds ago before I went on [ __ ] radio I do [ __ ] man I know it's [ __ ] crazy I do [ __ ] I have nothing wrong against this chit as far as I know as far as I know she never put anything any protective order or whatever against me any [ __ ] thing against we're [ __ ] cool somebody freaking [ __ ] be beat it up whatever right we sto doing it for a long ass [ __ ] time it's been long time and we straight [ __ ] friends what's your government cell phone number I don't have a government cell phone number you just have yours they just call you on the radio and any call from your personal pH what do you mean CES from work I I don't I don't I issue that day my radio man you need to think about it because I'm telling you how it is I know you wish that I [ __ ] say like I freaking sh the freaking and then called out and oops look s but that's not F I think that I think to the fact bro that it's not a major coincidence it's not it's not you know you're looking at a dead woman it is a [ __ ] major coincidence a dead child it's not whether I want to accept it it's the fact that it's a major [ __ ] coincidence and yeah it [ __ ] hit me once once everything they fck start hitting me once you know I tell you when they hit you when I asked you your name yeah when they freaking said that I was like [ __ ] right and you didn't tell me your middle name but but but then again yeah yeah and that's what start hting me but then again I was still I wasn't still sure like I told you I cannot possibly asking you to tell you we're not asking you to we're telling you that that's her all right so then we come across of course being the detectives that we are we look into her background right not who she was dating who she was talking to and your name comes up and guess what you're right the same us I asked I asked on the radio they kep saying that his name was um that his name was uh uh Anthony BR right the radio but I asked him and he's got our so I said what's your name he says and then he heard them say Rick he's got a middle name of Anthony and I asked him what's your name he said Anthony so he left out the midle name and a AES tried to hide his name from the police which was a red flag that he had some connection with the case which is what they know you about Anthony no no you for to ask me but you don't think you should have been a professional have at least told me if they ask me my going to chop it up and leave out two days two your demeanor right now compared to your partners your partners Meers are not all of them because we have all of them here or is nothing but 100% cooperation I don't want to [ __ ] laugh I don't want to [ __ ] laugh but you guys are [ __ ] you guys [ __ ] like almost CAU me [ __ ] say something you believe that it's a coincidence a fuing coincidence not do good for you it down we have to disarm everybody in your unit to bring them in here yeah I know you and you think I know it was coming cuz I'm not [ __ ] stupid I know it was [ __ ] coming since you [ __ ] guys were playing around over there tell me to the how around explain your mentality right there hom you want be upet about one is your son okay that was murdered that's possibly your son your blood to sound that's possibly your son that's dead your son is dead a one-year-old let that s in man two agencies a city a group of murder you have a family you family a wife and you have kids with them two kids that you're worried about you have to come to ter man you got to start getting in front of this thing and stop playing around you still have two living children you have two more you said with 80 yeah you got to get in front of man this cannot be a mystery for you and your family you can't drown crazy like that one family is already ruined don't mess with your wife Amy what's your name what is it what I give I gave you details step by step of what happened you asked me you asked me if I know the person these things and I told you that I do I'm not [ __ ] hiding anything man ask me instead of trying to accuse me and tell me to think ask me what you want to know and I'm telling you 45 years old and I saw an girlfriend when I was in high school on the ground i' recognize her I'd be like oh [ __ ] with freaking hair yeah that's cool to extract everything from you ask me ask me in my mind in my mind you me from the beginning listen listen listen you didn't tell me from the beginning that when you pulled in at a parking lot you saw white Mercedes it took us 45 minutes for you to tell me that why did you ask me you see there we go us we asked you have a detailed account of what happened you're needing things out you're leaving things out I'm not I'm not leaving things out talking nervous and I'm telling you to the best of my ability but as we keep talking about this pieces are coming coming in and I'm telling you it was a gruesome crime scene and you're grabbing shoes and you're grabbing strollers and you're not being appropriate about your Communications with 940 I was 940 used to call it brother that's not your jurisdiction that's a murder investigation the city's not going one to he that border control is [ __ ] around with crime SC [ __ ] newor organization Nationwide hey bro bro come on I did not do that man improper in in in the radio I showed up I saw a gruesome CRI you were there a long time before we showed up what what means you understand went down he wasn't like I went over there and I saw oh [ __ ] let me call this in as soon as I stopped and I saw a body laying on the floor I I got on my handheld and I called it in as I went there all right that's how I did it how was I supposed to know Gru some de with whatever whatever whatever when I was like walking on my way man mying be you're being a minut specific you know generally generally speaking you know what we're talking about you know what's I [Music] mean look let go you're picking up the little T shoes what are you doing with all that get out of a detective she was what are you doing all that Mur brother you identify yourself to me I no you didn't happen man that iscia whatever his name is I fully identifi myself with him with my daughter's license I wasn't trying to hide names or anything me to stop [ __ ] saying [ __ ] and you know what I been cooperating but the way you guys are treating me which I don't understand I I really understand how we treating like like I'm [ __ ] like I'm [ __ ] making things up like saying was that was wrong from the radium some things don't make sense so we got to get it clear got clarify it this is not again this is some misdemeanor this is a serious okay serious let's things all right I'll tell you what you want a little bit of water you want some water going to take a little two minute break come back and we'll get you some water I I need to use rest you're not to go you going to hold it hold it okay you want some water or are you leaving oh we're going to come come on back why because we're going to sit down and talk put together some other things that [Music] we how long you guys keep me detain here take me understand we have enough evidence Anda to Happ AES hasn't been formally charged but there is enough evidence against him to detain him until charges can be made he isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future although he doesn't seem to fully understand I've already exp to you theity of the work tell you you're being detained you can't do any work we're going to do something here confir about some statements and then we'll come back talk to you go to the bathroom I guess hey no seriously I talk to my to my chair who your wife want come back give phone come on man you that's like call want talk I'm you know what I say when I say I I swe to her I had somebody with me she told she told I know but it wasid [Music] was about a year and yeah it was year I didn't believe was she I got cool man she she never she never did that that back to me man never it was never like that it was this was never a a what do you call this thing you want to know it's your son no what do you call this thing um that take your me watch ex we're [ __ ] cool we were cool we're [ __ ] cool she she lives around mne somewhere and she frequents that all [ __ ] time she used to live I I've seen her house yes I haven't been inside her house ever have you been by her house I her house there going to be Witnesses family neighb have am and a kid what are your kid name don't worry about that well you need to think about it man well I'm not trying to play with you I'm just trying to remind you those that's your family how much want me to I already told how you want to how much I want to [ __ ] but I'm already putting them through [ __ ] [ __ ] like this whole [ __ ] situation I can freaking easily show you guys that me and her were [ __ ] cool I never had an issue with how how you show your phone yes you give me consent to your phone no I'll show you I'll give you [ __ ] [ __ ] what kind of phone you I mean we have it but say what kind I to my phone because look at everything El important to this case concerning is there anything that will prove that you didn't do it of course well you might want to use it I mean mean is there anything that approve that you didn't do this of course not okay is there anything that of course not I didn't do it I know that's my question is there my question is is there anything that will prove that you didn't do it no there there in in my phone there's proof that I never there was never any Rel your ckers prove that you spoke today today yes and what was the discussion you oh I speak for today no how did you the same location there's nothing I just asked you is no you guys can check I to her IEX today I talk weeks ago I can't tell win all right I'm telling you the truth I know find I sh so and then what you want to do and what you want to do when you find out that I a talk to her today are you going the truth proba Apologize One why iiz people yeah I know tell are you accusing me are you my beening you that he hat you is going to be lined up she she lives by that [ __ ] part she goes it all the time man look I we don't want because this is irrelevant to the stuff but she has her own other issues with all the people man herandez was not having problems in any of her other relationships she was focusing on Dominic and attempting to get into nursing school and did not have a lot of extra time for socializing that's probably your son man you know you're there that dead boy is there that dead child is your son it's going to be your son she said you get when call she's got one son she she she told me once one time and this is stupid but I'm I'm just telling you so you don't think that I'm like the bad guy either do you think it's it yours or no no say you think there's a chance do you want or Al you need to know the child it can be that's your son you want to know it's yours or not huh we're event to get that so you know you want to Runing test check it out C it's all when it come to that I'm just saying that's the one child that you didn't know that's still your child based on what what she's telling you and based on the family saying she's to talk texts between AES and Hernandez confirmed that he knew Dominic was his son so based on this Common Sense prob I think you a and your kid you need to be thinking about that to be thinking about that how can you make the situation easier on that come on how can you do it easier for how does your wife say oh my god father my children I don't know because no what man from this day on everybody everybody's going to look at me like if I did something I [ __ ] do that's that's you know because yeah because I anything else how much longer are you guys going to have to rain before you guys investigation a lot of people to talk to a lot of evidence family members a lot of stuff I'm going be here you're going to be here for a while for days no it is we're un phone with a prosecutor and all that stuff we need to figure out what's right what's wrong what do we have the fact that you're kind of dancing around it you know it's up to you the way you want to play Dan around I mean you know based on the information that we have and how we you know it just depends on how you want to have it just depends on how truthful you want to be with yourself you know how serious the situation is you know the person that was discovered by you while you're on duty someone that you know the second victim happens to be in all high probability happens to be yourself and that's not even your family your family is at home which is waiting for you so to you try to explain that to the public how do you think they're going to proceive it they're going to proceive it no way there's no way that he was you know was going to let this girl ruin his family again you're going a second opportunity with she came back to Texas to be with you I mean I know you say no butse explain my relationship with was like that with her she was never going to be me the other know know she's gone I'm telling you ever well that's your side of it was never like that he was never like that you [ __ ] sister her mom she ever said [ __ ] this guy up find out how she F about you because if it turns out that's thing not Liv mean she was just determined to make her be responsible to be a dad she can't make you be there you know financially child support said that and that's fine and that was fine that was fine with me that was always fine with me did she saying that did she asking for money at least give me money to pay the through the process to verify she told you were going to go to the process no that's that's what was my plan well you just said you're you guys were you said you guys were going to go through the process to verify sorry I'm sorry you no you said I'm sorry the proc and was she knew that you wanted to do that yeah you told her you said hey let's find out when did that happen I can't remember it was a while back like I said this I said me and her will cool for said that why didn't you just do it you know he find out because it's like appointment and things and all kind of [ __ ] did you tell your wife Amy does she know that you possibly have a son with him I I was waiting until it was I guess or know before I start it okay so she doesn't know AZ has completely changed his story about Dominic throughout the interview he has denied that there was any possibility that he was the father suddenly he is assuring the detective that he was going to get a paternity test no so we go ask her if she's going to say no second yeah she's okay your children are about the same age is this baby no how how old are they children older how old are they 10 4 11 10 the 10-year-old kind knows what's up the little one doesn't know 10 is a boy or girl four boys how do you want them to handle this man like I told you no matter what happens if it's like a you should your once you're like that guy that can f the unit you will always be that guy that F the unit can't you get my point right I yeah I definitely get so doesn't matter once you guys freaking realize that I wasn't I do [ __ ] it doesn't matter man I don't think we're at the point where people are going to look down on but I don't think we're at the point where they're in they're in a suspect I think they're at the point where it's like you can't be remorseful enough you know to be honest with the community board Patrol PD city of Loro with her family he a Sunday noon and they're in hell man does that even concern you a little bit I'm not a bad person you're not a bad person because of the circumstances and the fact that I know her and the things that what happened doesn't mean that I did it and that's fine because I'm pretty sure in the course of your investigation you want to see all the other size of her that you know that you guys don't know you want me to do a DNA SW so you can check to see give me consent to do that so we can see so you're going to make me do everything forcefully U get a warant so we can get your D get a warrant so you can go on your phone I told her I show you my phone well I mean I'm asking for I'll be honest with you I don't want you to show it to me I want consent so I can go into it and I can and and I can study it and research it that's what I want to do and all the freak everything brother everything not the wom not the wom de it's two dead people I need to see everything I'm not going to let you you know you be see why text with my wife and a picture is that even important man brother we have two people this could be your son it could be but that and if it is and if it is believe me [ __ ] pay me but I'm not going to [ __ ] sit here and take a [ __ ] blame blame for something I do not [ __ ] do and let me [ __ ] tell you something that's said let me tell you [ __ ] something can you say that her no I can't tell I can't tell it that's her I can't not tell so that's that's that's mother and child right there yes that they're gone and he's like your son and you just thinking about yourself kind of thing or what no I'm not I can't imagine being in your position I I can't imagine just trying to I don't know for you to kind of help yourself man you know I mean what what happened to her man what happened to her you tell me man you tell me what happened to her I cannot go this way it's got to come this way I think both of us both of us have been there all day me and you been here all day and now we've seen the same thing we know what exists we know what we've learned you've been present you know alth when I show up to the scene I I didn't know what happened to that's why I'm asking you you guys already know your investigation what happened to her just tell me what happened to her I mean it's a violent crime man come on be ass come on even be how you be your ass you know come on I've been real generous with you I've been while I understand that but you're talking about a that person now and we have we're having we're still with the family we're still at the house we're having to answer their desperate please to to you know hopefully tell them that that's not you know they want to hear that but we can't tell them that cuz we know for a fact that's her you know so seeing what we've seen which is the mother the sister the family then screaming anding and then you're here saying somebody ass because you you refuse to tell me what happens her because you think that I [ __ ] know and that that [ __ ] offend me all I'm saying is show some respect man it's a that person a mother and a child all right all right look I'm sorry right in the river banks of City Laro near a popular family uh I'm sorry right it's just too much man it you guys are freaking just you know we're just asking question I know and your kids you would been all over us hurry up hurry up get some answers catch them what's going on ask any questions you guys are are what do you want me to ask what do you want me to ask anything you have asked me I told you to the best of my knowledge yes forgot to detail whatever so you want you want city of LA Police Department and United States board Patrol to start looking for a suspect you want us to start looking for somebody really based on what we know right now you want us to stop what we're doing no and turn our attention away from you and go somewhere else I want you guys to do that but that only only only a rational person can say that I mean you want us to stop what we're doing and go somewhere else no I want you guys to do your job and you want us to let you go no no I want to I want to my name I want to clean my name from wrongdoing that's what I want that's why I want some y I was with someone else that this person you can't even ask L man he has freaking uh uh experience man this was it was this wasn't like I did it and then I freaking went like hey come over here come on bro why the [ __ ] you make me sit here with you man fine f dude man what I have a something that looks like that man I have a something that looks like that bro you know and this could be your son you know I'm trying to be patient bro but when I see something like that and we see a lot of [ __ ] you seen it too man you're a veteran and you seen a lot of dead people in you they P CU we're you know human being man you know we're [ __ ] human beings and sometimes people make fun of cops hey you guys are laughing at the crime scene we're not laughing at that people man we're laughing because this [ __ ] we got to take it home with us you know and I'm at the scene bro and I'm having to look at this little boy my son owns [ __ ] shoes like that bro I literally bought my son some shoes like that is every time I see this picture I'm picturing my son you know but it happens to be your son bro why you why are you [ __ ] with me let me you piss no we can't be pissed man why am I going be piss I don't I don't even we hardly know each other why can't I take it personally your partner is saying that he's like I know you did I think you whatever he he stra up accusing me that's his personal opinion so I know for the fact that you don't like me you being very patient with me you don't actually you don't believe me nether so I know you don't like me a that's sound about like bro I mean I I know you guys think I'm [ __ ] guilty I I in a way I understand believe me in a way I understand but on other way you got to understand like I feel cornered man I feel cornered because AZ isn't helping himself by playing ignorant to the cause of death he saw the body and the wounds anyone could have made an educated guess Ronald AES was given two life sentences without the possibility of parole his wife Amy remains married and continues to visit him thank you for watching check out my patreon link in the description below and drop a like on this video also don't forget to leave a comment I'm always curious to read what you thought of the case