and thanks for joining facts or frauds make sure you hit that Thumbs Up Button you're subscribed ring the bell for all notifications so the next time we have a Live premiere you can join us in the live chat and leave a comment in the comment section to tell me what you think today another Sovereign citizen who says he's traveling plus he's got something extra morning rather I'm also City Police Department reason I'm stopping you is your tag you have no can you call Mike Burns why would the officer call Mike Burns you don't have a legal tag on your car do you have insurance do you have a driver's license I'm guessing the answer to both of those is no called Mike Burns Mike Burns City police officer yes sir he will explain to you everything he'll explain everything exercising my right to travel without a driver's license constitutional right that you swore to protect I understand that completely sir do you have your license with you I guess you didn't hear what I just said yes sir exercising my right to travel without a driver's license there is no right to travel without a driver's license unless you're a passenger on a horse buggy your bicycle legally sir no legally sir let me explain no State law can supersede federal law sir you swore no to uphold federal law you're not a you're law enforcement officer you're not supposed to violate my rights I'm exercising my right Supreme Court said that I cannot be penalized sanctioned or arrested for exercising my constitutional right you swore an oath yes he swore an oath and you're not abiding by the laws so he's upholding The Oath by holding you accountable see that's how these things work call Mike Burns call a supervisor I need a supervis here now because obviously OB obviously you don't know what I'm talking about call my explain for just a moment call Mike Burns and ask him to come here and he'll explain everything I'm not here I'm have no ill will no ill intent I'm just exercising my rights I'm a private citizen who knows my rights and I don't want to have to take you and your department to federal court and sue you for everything you own because you choose to violate my rights oh here we go the big tough guy I'm going to sue you for everything cuz you violated my rights which it didn't happen and you know the Court's going to throw out the case because well reasons the Supreme Court already ruled on this you cannot violate my right I'm exercising it especially since I'm exercising it and I absolutely support your right to then why are you stopping me because of the tag the tag means this is a private automobile not a motor vehicle and it means that I'm exercising my right to travel without a driver's license mandatory insurance and vehicle registration which is Supreme Court decision may I speak what's your name and badge number my name is Officer Queen you know you don't have to shine that light here cuz if you shine my light at the camera that's against uh ban that's the B against the Bane law it is not it's my First Amendment right to video record you during your course of your duties you're absolutely willing to record you're absolutely that is your right to record then why are we here but let me explain okay on a cycline road where you operating a motor vehicle on a state I'm not operating a motor vehicle sir a motor vehicle is used for commercial purposes and I am operating under commercial capacity I am traveling in my personal automobile may I finish you're going to continue to interrup you're you're telling me something that's not lawful I'm telling you federal law and you're violating it your state lawful order your state law with your ID due to a traffic violation okay what traffic violation is that you have no correct tag there's no crime there sir there's no crime so Legally Legally I legally I am legal legally I'm exercising my right to travel without a driver's license I don't have to ID myself because I have not committed a crime sir AB I have not committed a crime sir United States Penal Code 148g says that the only time I'm supposed to ID myself is if I've been lawfully arrested for a crime and a traffic infraction is not a crime sir I'm sorry to tell you you're making a big mistake right now I don't know how long you've on the force and how much how much law you know Sergeant Jones with the city police department what's your name sweetie I don't have to give that either okay so in our state when you're operating in your state so you're telling me that your state is exempt to the Constitution so in our state did you traveling or operating ma' a motor vehicle do you want me to pull it up for you the special police officer bulletin that I sent to Chief Stewart so listen to me do you want me to send it to you listen to me you have to have a driver's license in our state okay I'm not operating under commercial capacity ma'am I'm sorry to tell you a driver by definition is someone who is getting paid to operate this is not a motor vehicle ma'am sir I'm just Cal I sir I'm just calmly talking to you and I'm fine I know but you keep interrupting me and that's not but I'm trying to tell you I don't want you to I don't want you to dig yourself in a hole that's not how conversations go conversations go when we respect each other I talk and then you talk have I been disrespectful to you sir me but we're trying to have trying to have a conversation with you okay okay then I need somebody here who knows the law can you please no ma'am you don't know the law because you're asking me for something that I'm not required to uh provide for you do you want me to tell you this the law for the state of South Carolina sir okay state law does not supersede federal law okay sir you're driving in our state I'm not driving ma'am I'm traveling don't blame this on us teachers you opened the school and gave us barely enough resources to do our jobs you have do you want me to show you the bulletin no do you want me to show you the the law the bulletin case law that went to the Supreme Court that says I have the right to travel without a driver's license mandatory insurance and vehicle registration yeah I'd love to see the Supreme Court case of that never happened you want to see the case law to have no ma'am I don't a registration and insurance is Mike is Mike Burns walking tonight no sir well can you get a hold of him no sir cuz he will explain everything to you he already spoke to the other officers and told them to to leave me alone as long unless I'm committing a crime or endangering somebody on the road that is the only time you are guys you guys are required to pull me over listen in the state of South Carolina okay if you are committing a traffic offense that is an arrestable offense no it's not ma'am it's not a crime ma'am in July 20 I mean in 2015 they already passed the law do you know do you remember uh Justin Henderson he was a traffic cop here in the city mhm do you know that he quit his job because I I threatened to take him to federal court and sue him for his job and he went he quit his job and went to work for the highway patrol because he knew I was coming for his job and I was going to sue him still sue him at the highway patrol that's actually what you want to do he doesn't have to work here for you to S him okay that doesn't make any sense you need to get honestly you need to get somebody here who knows the law I'll call the lieutenant if if that's what you want me to do but Lieutenant who Lieutenant Kelly as long as long as he knows what federal law is all about believe me I understand I'm fine with it but can you let me compl can I educate can I educate you guys a little less questions and a little more shut the hell up as long as you'll let me educate I want you to educate you I already know your laws your laws don't apply to me your laws apply your state law applies to commercial operators you're not allowed to leave okay you have to stay right here so I'm being detained for what crime for uh that's not a crime no don't say it it's a traffic infraction it's not a crime okay but it's still a detention it's still so you're you're going to violate us Penal Code 148g 148g you're going to violate it I mean you guys are seriously going to be in big trouble I'm telling you you guys must not be on the force that long you guys are pretty new I could tell I've been living in Anderson since 1998 and I've never been bothered by police officers since I've been exercising my rights I went to court for this and everything and and I won my case and they dropped all my fines and they told me that I was free to travel yeah I'll take than that never happened for 1,000 Alex traveling doesn't mean to be in a car with someone who has a driver's license no sir that's not what traveling means the the the United States Constitution clearly states the the right of a citizen to travel upon the public roads and highways is a citizen's right and not a government granted privilege which means we don't it does not require permission IE licensing mandatory insurance and vehicle registration all right enough putting it on the screen right now no matter matter which state you live in you're required by law to have a valid driver's license and all endorsements needed for the type of vehicle you are operating got it all endorsements required by law got [Music] it you guys I mean you guys are some serious trouble if you guys don't let me go and let me go about my way and exercise my rights you guys you guys swore no to protect my rights absolutely and I do every day military the military soldiers they go out and fight for our rights and you guys are here violating our rights it's not good it's not good at all I'm I have to go pick up my wife she has no right to get picked up from work well at this time like I said you're not free to go right I need a supervisor here who knows his laws I need a supervisor here because you guys are going to be in serious serious trouble we're talking about the Supreme you know what the Supreme Court said the Supreme Court said that any police officer or judge that violates our constitutional rights are committing a felony and a federal crime okay you guys no right have I violated on you sir my right to travel you're you're impeding my travel my freedom of movement which is in the Constitution which is which amendment for no crime this is not a crime dude which which amendment the what do you mean which amendment right to travel which which one is that one the freedom of movement which one which number is the freedom it's under freedom of movement Fourth Amendment is what it is no that's to be safe seizure of that's no that's that's we finish we finish okay I'm I don't and I don't consent to any legal search and seizures of my personal property may I finish we're trying to have a conversation right I'm trying to educate people and have and I understand that is that you lieutenant uh yes that is is that uh uh Lieutenant uh Lieutenant do you mind anybody step out and we we can speak I'm going to turn off I'm going to turn this off okay I'm going to I'm going to be honest with you I had my gun here on the middle console and I threw it on the floor so that way you guys don't get scared and I'm just letting you know it's on the floor under my feet okay do you have your cons weapons permit uh no ma'am I'm exercising My Second Amendment right you're you don't exercise anything at any time but dude you don't have a driver's license license plate registration insurance or a CCW hold up hold up I'll get out I'll get why why you guys you're good man okay can I you going to grab it no I'm going to have you move back here well I don't I don't I don't consent to no no no I'm going have you mind if I record yeah I'm record too man all right here let me show you for non-commercial use only this is what I got pulled over for non-commercial use only this is my but this is my constitutional right to travel without a driver's license mandatory insurance and vehicle registration okay this is federal law the Constitution freedom of movement says and also states that any officer or judge that violates my rights is committing a felony in a federal crime I don't want to have to take anybody to federal court and sue them every every case that went to federal court for this has won their case and the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of it okay I have no doubt this is why I'm trying to educate you guys I don't know if you know this but we as private citizens have a right to travel without a driver's license I've had a driver's license in the past and guess what happened the state decided they wanted to take away from me because I didn't pay a ticket on time oh a a seat belt ticket uh if I have not committed a crime sir I I'm not required to provide that all listen I'm not going to argue with you okay here's the deal and stay at South Carolina you have to have a license to operate on on the roadway you have to have insurance and and your vehicle has to be ra I asked you to get me somebody who knew the law listen to them I I'm explaining I've already heard this before sir do you know Mike Burns I listen to you do you know officer Mike Burns I listen to you can you listen to me do you know officer Mike Burns I do know officer Mike Burns well maybe you want to get him here because guess what he already knows about this and he informed his officers already I don't know why you guys haven't her unless you work night shift so listen here's the thing license registration and insurance he had a lawful reason to stop you you're operating a vehicle on on the roadway all right now here's the thing this can go one or two different ways I can't go anyway sir you have to let me go this is my constitutional right that you swore not to protect what part of that don't you understand sir listen you swore an oath why would you go against your oath I I I did swear an oath you're absolutely right then why are you violating it right now I know what my law is okay what is your law okay explain to me be specific what's your law in the state of South Carolina have to have a license registered vehicle and insurance now do you want me to show you where it says only if you're operating commercially driver's license this is not a motor vehicle sir by definition a motor vehicle is any car truck that is used only for commercial purposes a motor vehicle the definition of Motor Vehicle in the state of South Carolina is anything that is self-propelled that is not operated on trck wires okay do you want me to can I look it up for you and show you real quick if I can look it up and motor vehicle motor vehicle in our state though no in theall in the book at the Department of Motor Vehicles that's what it states for our state of South Carolina right the motor vehicle department says it in their books um all right so here I'm I'm going to ask this one more time okay either are you give me the information or you're going to go to jail that is for no crime you're going to arrest me for no cry I asked once July in 2015 turn hold on hold on hold on hold on turn we're not playing this game hurt me all Hur me cool and thanks for joining facts or frauds make sure you hit that Thumbs Up Button you're subscribed ring the bell for all notifications so that way next time we're going live with the premiere you can join in on the chat